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[2005-05-24 12:10:22] - pierce:  i know.  ~a

[2005-05-24 12:09:43] - a: not every reasonable generalization has to be biological in nature.  I could reasonably make the argument that christians' pro-life stance is not, and never was, a function of the fact that non-christians thought they were pro-life.  so it's not self-fulfilling. - pierce

[2005-05-24 12:09:20] - Pierce: Go out on a limb all you like, I'm going to wonder if the role of raising the family and leaving the work to the husband comes from inherent biological differences rather than just previous social norms. -Paul

[2005-05-24 12:08:12] - aaron: agreed, but when we're talking about "using" that information they can be equally useless if formed from fallacious information. - pierce

[2005-05-24 12:08:08] - a: No, I think it comes from the close association that staunch christianity has with the pro-life movement. -Paul

[2005-05-24 12:06:43] - Paul: wonder all you like, I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that the previous social norm, that women should raise the family and not work professionally or take the leadership role, fostered such an expectation. - pierce

[2005-05-24 12:05:06] - paul:  do you think that the societal expectation that christians are pro-life comes from biology?  ~a

[2005-05-24 12:03:56] - pierce: I think there's a line between generalizations and prejudice which everyone just has to draw for themselves - aaron

[2005-05-24 12:02:10] - Pierce: It's entirely possible. Although I wonder where the expectation came from if it's not biological then. -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:58:49] - so going back to the original link, there's a reasonable (if arguable) case to be made that the societal expectation that women will be less competitive could influence women to in fact be less competitive.  so while there may be an as-yet-unproved biological cause for the results of that study, I wouldn't assume there is. - pierce

[2005-05-24 11:56:07] - Paul: personally, I don't have a problem with generalizations.  but I think due caution is in order when the act of drawing the correlation may have causative effects... in other words, when the generalization can be a self-fulfilling prophecy. - pierce

[2005-05-24 11:51:58] - Aaron: I think the comic is a natural extension of what we were talking about, albeit with some differences. If you're not letting generalities guide you, then you really shouldn't care about doing drugs in front of police officers. After all, not all police officers are going to arrest you. -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:39:41] - seemed loosely appropriate. Why assume a police officer isn't going to be cool with recreational drugs eh? (ok i just thought it was a good comic) - aaron

[2005-05-24 11:39:08] - a: http://www.angryflower.com/tn1ter.html - aaron

[2005-05-24 11:35:10] - aba: Probably not, but I think it looks better (7's vs 7s). -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:33:35] - when you make a number into a plural, are you supposed to use an apostrophe?  -  aba

[2005-05-24 11:32:35] - yeah, i guess i don't even use it as a guide either.  ~a

[2005-05-24 11:29:58] - i place mine on 7's.  ~a

[2005-05-24 11:14:53] - a: I would rather place my settlements on 6's and 8's even though I fully admit that they might never come up during the game and I could strike out. -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:13:31] - a: Is it always right? No, of course not. But it's probably right more often than not. It would be like playing Settlers of Cataan and placing all your settlements on 2's and 3's. Sure, it can work out but it probably won't. -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:12:02] - a: And I don't let it rule my social life either. I just use it as a guide to help make it easier. -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:11:23] - a: If you're forming an office basketball team, are you going to ask the black coworker or the hispanic one? ;-) -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:10:19] - in both cases, to be honest, it wouldn't go through my head.  i know in both cases i'll (most likely) end up looking like a jackass, but that's just who i am.  i don't really let correlational data rule my social life.  ~a

[2005-05-24 11:10:00] - Maybe you want to know if the new Star Wars movie was any good. Are you going to approach the group of old ladies and ask or the group of young, geeky looking males? -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:08:44] - a: I find it hard to believe that you don't use generalizations at all in your life. -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:08:07] - Or you wouldn't feel more uncomfortable making fun of Bush in front of some conservative friends rather than some liberal friends? -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:06:54] - So if you wanted to know the score of some sports game, you're saying you're just as likely to go up to a woman and ask if she knows what the score is than you would be to ask a man? -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:06:32] - err.  what i meant to say was:  when i'm talking to a christian, i don't care at all if many christians are pro-life.  very often the one i'm talking to isn't.  ~a

[2005-05-24 11:03:25] - i don't.  ~a

[2005-05-24 11:03:12] - when i'm talking to christians, i don't care at all if they are pro-life.  very often they aren't.  ~a

[2005-05-24 11:02:05] - a: And I really hope you don't ever intend to be in marketing. :-P -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:01:38] - ok.  ~a

[2005-05-24 11:01:30] - a: If that's really true (and I seriously doubt it), then I think you're needlessly discarding a lot of useful information just to try to make a point to me. -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:00:54] - not in the real world anyways.  ~a

[2005-05-24 11:00:51] - a: Yes, you've not heard of the term? It basically means that when he thinks somebody is saying something stupid or foolish, he's quick to make fun of them or dismiss what they're saying rather than trying to come to a more peaceful understanding. -Paul

[2005-05-24 11:00:39] - paul:  i don't use that information.  ~a

[2005-05-24 10:59:35] - a: *Shrug* How do you use the information that Christians are generally pro-life and anti-evolution? It's just another piece of information I use when formulating theories about groups of people. -Paul

[2005-05-24 10:56:09] - suffer fools?  ~a

[2005-05-24 10:53:11] - paul:  well, hmm, it's really not that you're speaking in absolutes.  it's that you're using this general information (women are security-obsessed and risk-averse) somehow, right?  how are you using it?  ~a

[2005-05-24 10:52:12] - Vox Day does not suffer fools nearly as much as I do. -Paul

[2005-05-24 10:51:37] - a: *Shrug* I think he's like me in that he thinks that it's not worth it to write out words like "generally" when it's fairly clear that's what is intended. -Paul

[2005-05-24 10:45:53] - paul:  that guy reminds me of you:  always speaking in absolutes.  women are security-obsessed and risk-averse  even if he isn't implying that ALL women or MOST women are this way, he's still secretly thinking it.  ~a

[2005-05-24 10:31:37] - http://voxday.blogspot.com/2005/05/chalk-one-up-for-ladies.html Men enjoy competition more than women. You don't have to read the commentary. I only posted it this way because Vox didn't include a link to the article. -Paul

[2005-05-24 09:58:27] - dave: Sorry, I blame myself. I know how annoying it was when I was commenting on other people's journals as anonymous too. That's partially why I switched. I think it's a clever ploy to get everybody to join LJ. :-) -Paul

[2005-05-24 09:07:52] - http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/news/0523_tillman.html tillman's parents are none too happy about being lied to about how their son died. - mig

[2005-05-24 09:01:02] - www.livejournal/users/dtsou    Not sure how much I will post, but it's annoying to have to post to journals as anonymous ^_^ -dave

[2005-05-23 19:45:54] - *** cow moos at aba

[2005-05-23 19:12:43] - *** aba moos at the cow

[2005-05-23 19:10:49] - eat me!  -cow

[2005-05-23 19:09:49] - hungry!  -  aba

[2005-05-23 17:16:22] - note: I didn't set the title. - pierce

[2005-05-23 17:04:11] - a: ...and I really think you should check out Franz Ferdinand's eponymous album, Hot Hot Heat's Make Up the Breakdown, and Dogs Die in Hot Cars' Please Describe Yourself.  Your musical taste has always seemed to have a similar evolution to my own, and I've gotten somewhat obsessed with those albums. - pierce

[2005-05-23 17:00:45] - on the other hand, you will probably like Mezmerize... it's probably more like System of a Down than Toxicity or Steal This Album!, as a heuristic. - pierce

[2005-05-23 17:00:06] - http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/0505/19okinawa.html Okinawa hot under the hem over schoolgirls' short skirts. -Paul

[2005-05-23 16:59:24] - a: don't bother.  I haven't listened to the new cake album since the second time through.  it's very mediocre. - pierce

[2005-05-23 16:38:52] - yeah.  and i still don't even have the new cake album.  ~a

[2005-05-23 16:31:13] - a: you know there's a new SOAD album, right? - pierce

[2005-05-23 16:09:39] - "cocaine is also a topical anesthetic that is used in eye and throat surgery."  learn something new every day.  ~a

[2005-05-23 16:01:35] - aba: Ah, I was using S1 instead of S2. Awesome, I think I've got it working. Thanks. -Paul

[2005-05-23 15:50:50] - also see:  http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=169  -  aba

[2005-05-23 15:49:38] - paul:  it wasnt.  i was just being silly.  :-P  -  aba

[2005-05-23 15:39:03] - aba: As for the side links in LJ, I did not know that. I'll have to take a look at doing that. -Paul

[2005-05-23 15:38:31] - aba: That's what I thought you used it for. I was just wondering why it was so important that somebody like me have easy access to your webpage. -Paul

[2005-05-23 15:29:15] - anyway, you can add side links to your lj layout, so if you only have a couple of pages to link to, im not sure why you wouldnt just edit the format of your lj.  -  aba

[2005-05-23 15:28:02] - i actually just updated it today.  -  aba

[2005-05-23 15:27:52] - paul: the purpose of my webpage is to provide me with a convenient place to store commonly used links (so i dont have to book mark on my laptop and my old computer and wherever else i go)  -  aba

[2005-05-23 15:24:16] - aaron:  http://wiki.aporter.org/index.php?title=Test  ~a

[2005-05-23 15:16:46] - a: :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D - aaron

[2005-05-23 15:08:52] - aaron:  THANKS!  ~a

[2005-05-23 15:08:19] - It looks like the package is called "cjk-latex"? - aaron

[2005-05-23 15:07:34] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Running_MediaWiki_on_Debian_GNU/Linux - aaron

[2005-05-23 15:01:13] - for anyone who actually reads the rc, i was trying to get math formulas to work on the "Test" page.  i can't find anything called texvc in debian and don't really feal like doing a source install.  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:55:43] - pierce:  yesm.  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:53:17] - a: hmmm. perhaps wiki - rc so they're more visually distinct. - pierce

[2005-05-23 14:52:06] - a: can you make the "w" link the whole word "wiki"?  it's too small to click easily as it is.  And maybe this is just something I want, but if you made it wiki:rc I could see just the new things on it. - pierce

[2005-05-23 14:47:36] - Sorry, I meant "f - a - r - down - enter". -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:47:09] - Aaron: Interesting. I can actually usually do fark with just "f - a - down - enter" but I'll keep that in mind. :-) -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:40:57] - paul:  it does //www.whatever.com/  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:40:32] - ctrl = autocomplete .com      shift = autocomplete .net      ctrl+shift = autocomplete .org - aaron

[2005-05-23 14:38:58] - Aaron: What does ctrl-enter do? -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:38:08] - Aaron: I'm with you. -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:37:26] - paul: What about fark ctrl-enter (for firefox?) that should be faster - aaron

[2005-05-23 14:37:11] - a: Fair enough. When was the last time she added something new, though? -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:36:30] - Please say someone else misread pierce's "titler" comment with some kind of.... nazi nipple connotation? I wasn't the only one was i? - aaron

[2005-05-23 14:32:54] - (also sometimes providing the former for the owner of the site)  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:32:30] - paul:  lots of people have a "links" site.  it's purpose is NOT to provide you with a quick way of finding your usual stuff.  it's purpose is to show you what's new on the web (and what you might be missing).  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:31:19] - a: *Shrug* I think it's just as fast for me to type in "fark.com" than it is to click on two links to get there. Other than that, I'm not sure what her page offers me. -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:30:27] - a: Of course, I guess I don't use any of the links up there very often anyway. -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:30:21] - awww, diss.  :'(  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:29:52] - a: Whew, thank goodness Aparna's personal page is back so I can resume ignoring it. :-P -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:27:45] - nothing to see here.  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:27:34] - oops, it wasn't me last time.  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:26:16] - it wasn't me this time.  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:22:31] - titler: wow, that thing just won't die.  it's got more longevity than that insufferable "rollin'" joke that vinnie and I found so hilarious junior and senior year. :) - pierce

[2005-05-23 14:18:29] - a: I know, I actually would rather people forget about the old site anyway. I'm only still using it so I remember to check the couple of friends who don't use LJ. -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:16:41] - and aba did neither.  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:16:13] - paul:  i claim that your situation is different.  you posted a "move" notice, vinnie posted a "move" notice but also said his other (actual) content would remain.  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:14:25] - grumble.  ~a

[2005-05-23 14:06:03] - a: That's the reason I don't complain that you don't link to my webpage anymore. ;-) -Paul

[2005-05-23 14:04:08] - aba:  i think paul's point was that people other than you wouldn't need your personal links.  ~a

[2005-05-23 13:49:21] - I don't really care if you link to it though. I'm gonna link to it from LJ whenever I update, probably - vinnie

[2005-05-23 13:48:48] - well I for one plan to keep using my website, for songs and stuff - vinnie

[2005-05-23 13:43:53] - paul: yah thats pretty much the purpose of it.  -  aba

[2005-05-23 13:25:35] - aba: Is there any reason to visit your webpage though? It looked like it was just a source of links for you more than anything else. -Paul

[2005-05-23 13:16:40] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/05/23/brain.download/index.html brain downloads 'possible by 2050' - aaron

[2005-05-23 13:13:56] - i guess the links aren't really for journals only.  i should add you and vinnie back, i guess.  ~a

[2005-05-23 13:12:28] - done and done.  -  aba

[2005-05-23 13:10:28] - aaron: true.  -  aba

[2005-05-23 13:07:02] - aba:  paul is right.  i removed everybody that was covered by the "lj" link.  am i being unfair to people who are getting swept up by the lj, craze?  the answer, is yes.  ~a

[2005-05-23 13:05:32] - aba: Where is it? You could put it in the wiki. - aaron

[2005-05-23 13:03:49] - i spose its not a very interesting webpage.  -  aba

[2005-05-23 13:03:40] - but i have a webpage too.  :-)  -  aba

[2005-05-23 13:02:58] - aba: It's because you're covered under his "lj" link now. At least that's the reason he gave Mel. -Paul

[2005-05-23 13:01:01] - i got deleted from the links!  -  aba

[2005-05-22 02:46:51] - http://ps2.ign.com/articles/618/618011p1.html beatmania to makes a splash stateside in 2006 - aaron

[2005-05-20 16:03:55] - Lori: Sorry, I'm all out of happy. All I have is untimely demise. -Paul

[2005-05-20 15:37:22] - ok - boo to the both of you - i need _something_ happy today.  :P - lori

[2005-05-20 15:22:04] - Lori: Or maybe they're just taking money out of your paycheck and claiming it's for medical coverage. -Paul

[2005-05-20 15:12:48] - yay!  less money!  :-D  ~a

[2005-05-20 15:05:20] - They took medical out of my paycheck!  I might have medical coverage!  Woohoo! - lori

[2005-05-20 14:11:53] - aaron: OK i found the link. I *must* have this game! .D -amy

[2005-05-20 14:03:09] - aaron: no! it's a singing AND dancing game?? can you give the link again?? -amy

[2005-05-20 13:37:41] - amy: That's great news! Did you see the E3 report about Karaoke Dance Party? I posted a link before - aaron

[2005-05-20 13:33:08] - aaron: yay my wish came true! they sent me home after lunch! -amy

[2005-05-20 13:12:12] - adrian: call me?  I'm losing my mind today... - lori

[2005-05-20 12:46:43] - i've watched this movie about 100 times in the last month with my officemate.  if you've already seen it, i appologize.  movie  ~a

[2005-05-20 11:50:10] - mig: I would hope so. -Paul

[2005-05-20 11:23:40] - paul:  i needn't worry.  if they sign him i think it's only for the purposes of trading him. - mig

[2005-05-20 10:35:02] - http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1060425_1||221800|0_0_,00.html The many deaths of Samuel L. Jackson. -Paul

[2005-05-20 10:25:19] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2064287 I really hope the Dolphins do not bring back Ricky Williams. -Paul

[2005-05-20 09:57:56] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.games/05/19/e3.games/index.html Amy, your dream of singing and playing End Of The Century simultaneously may be achievable in the near future - aaron

[2005-05-19 16:51:25] - Pierce: Very true. -Paul

[2005-05-19 16:48:19] - Either way, it's very similar to the Hellboy situation... one of the sons from Frasier playing a superhero with a freakish exterior but an eloquent, sensitive personality. - pierce

[2005-05-19 16:33:49] - Pierce: Yeah, I think his voice is a good match but I have my reservations about whether he has the look and body structure necessary. -Paul

[2005-05-19 16:30:55] - They could just dub his voice (which is perfect for the part) over another actor playing the body.  Then it would be a very eerie parallel to David Hyde Pierce in Hellboy. - pierce

[2005-05-19 15:59:05] - http://filmforce.ign.com/x-men/articles/615/615829p1.html Kelsey Grammer cast as the Beast in X-Men 3? -Paul

[2005-05-19 14:25:07] - lori: agreed. -amy

[2005-05-19 14:19:15] - amy : true, though I wonder what the "compensation" refferred to.  If she was paid for the work (which I'm guessing she was), then she shouldn't have won - but if not I guess it could be considered backpay?  Maybe?  I don't know...  Regardless it's a bad precedent. - lori

[2005-05-19 14:16:28] - ...that she should be awarded money. -amy

[2005-05-19 14:16:22] - lori: i was disappointed at both things. the thing that most stuck out at me is how the turning point in the trial seemed to be when she revealed evidence of all the work she had done. to me that is just evidence that she should have no trouble finding work and taking care of herself after the relationship ended, not a reason... -amy

[2005-05-19 14:10:56] - The fact that the law agreed with her basing her life on those assumptions is a whole different level of disappointment though i guess. - lori

[2005-05-19 14:09:52] - The reason I ask is because I think it is more disappointing that she was willing to put herself in, and live, for that matter, in that situation.  That and the fact that she expected someone to take care of her rather than following through on her goals post-undergrad (yes, yes, says the girl who hasn't returned to school herself yet...) - lori

[2005-05-19 14:07:20] - Lori: I was disappointed that she won the case. -Paul

[2005-05-19 14:05:15] - paul &amy : wait, disappointed that she won the case or that the situation existed in the first place? - lori

[2005-05-19 13:56:29] - Amy: Yeah, it was a sad story. :-( -Paul

[2005-05-19 13:51:09] - paul: oh i know, i went on and clicked the link anyway. and became even more disappointed. .p -amy

[2005-05-19 13:50:53] - pierce: sigh... every day is like that for me -amy

[2005-05-19 13:46:11] - Amy: I was disappointed that she won the case after reading the headline. :-P -Paul

[2005-05-19 13:44:29] - you ever have one of those stir-crazy days, where you are just fidgety and tired of sitting in one place? - pierce

[2005-05-19 13:42:14] - pierce: there's a story behind it, but like how many internet trademarks go... i just started using it in high school, and never lost the habit -amy

[2005-05-19 13:40:55] - smilies - pierce

[2005-05-19 13:38:34] - pierce: about the smileys, or the disappointment? -amy

[2005-05-19 13:37:14] - amy: mind if I ask why? - pierce

[2005-05-19 13:36:00] - paul: i just read the "girlfriend awarded $10 m" article. by the time i got to the end, i was disappointed she had won the case. -amy

[2005-05-19 13:25:56] - pierce: i frown that way too .( -amy

[2005-05-19 13:25:41] - pierce: nope, i smile one-eyed on the internet. -amy

[2005-05-19 13:25:20] - amy: do you normally have cyclops smilies, or is it just a coincidental fluke on the msgboard and palpable.org's latest journal entry? - pierce

[2005-05-19 13:12:13] - Paul: sorry. ;-) - pierce

[2005-05-19 13:07:18] - lori: yay! i didn't feel it though. guess it didn't work on me .( -amy

[2005-05-19 12:51:50] - amy:  wow - i suddenly feel like everyone on earth just got a little smarter by comparison... - lori

[2005-05-19 12:40:40] - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1399694.html?menu= so cuuute!! i want to hug this burglar -amy

[2005-05-19 11:35:06] - Pierce: So that's probably as diverse as I could've gotten based on the source. :-P -Paul

[2005-05-19 11:34:15] - Pierce: In my defense, I got all of those articles from a newsletter I subscribe to which focuses on a specific type of feminism. -Paul

[2005-05-19 11:23:12] - you know what I like most about you, Paul?  your diversity of conversation topics. :) - pierce

[2005-05-19 11:09:39] - http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/opinion/epaper/2005/05/09/a14a_lg_edit_0509.html Girl's abortion was legal; the reason for it wasn't. -Paul

[2005-05-19 11:04:25] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4541579.stm An Italian man who married without telling his bride he was impotent must pay damages for abusing her "right to sexuality", a top court has ruled. -Paul

[2005-05-19 10:58:06] - http://edition.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/05/16/harvard.women.ap/index.html Harvard commits $50 million to gender initiatives. -Paul

[2005-05-19 10:57:23] - http://abcnews.go.com/2020/News/story?id=751728&page=1 Spurned girlfriend awarded $10 million. -Paul

[2005-05-19 10:53:56] - http://www.freep.com/news/locmac/bat13e_20050513.htm Judge rules that girl is too young to allow beatings to end her pregnancy. -Paul

[2005-05-19 10:52:50] - http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/11673132.htm Woman who alleged rape sues for privacy -Paul

[2005-05-19 10:25:36] - a: Thanks. I just thought I would say it here in case some people didn't see that. -Paul

[2005-05-19 10:16:18] - paul:  http://wiki.aporter.org/index.php?title=May_2004  ~a

[2005-05-19 10:03:09] - Note to people seeing Star Wars with me today: I'm going to try to show up around or before 7:00 tonight. I don't know when they'll let us in to get seats, but if you can show up fairly early it might help us get seats together.Thanks. -Paul

[2005-05-19 09:37:19] - aaron:  it has nothing to do with firefox.  i did an overhaul of the webserver's configuration scripts and accidentally left something out.  it's fixed now.  ~a

[2005-05-19 09:00:23] - a: i had a link? not that it matters, since all you'd get is an entry that says "sabournine" -amy

[2005-05-19 08:49:11] - a: Stats2 isn't parsed by firefox if you don't denote it as html.... for me, it's showing up as raw text (html tags and all) - aaron

[2005-05-18 20:42:02] - mel:  i added a link to my livejournal "friends" page (and removed paul, travis, and amy's links).  so if you post a non-flocked entry, it would show up there.  ~a

[2005-05-18 19:53:10] - a: ps.  and thanks for removing my journal from the list.  It is offically dead, especially now that you have a wiki!  -mel

[2005-05-18 19:52:30] - a: I hadn't figured out how to post the real URL instead of the cgi call.  This is good info, thanks.  -mel

[2005-05-18 19:51:28] - a: anyway, its cool that you have a wiki now.  I might  post wiki admin related type stuff here so I can see what you think.  :-) -mel

[2005-05-18 19:49:42] - a: as you mentioned, a lot of the wikimedia documentation for modifiying the PHP is vague.  I guess they don't think wiki administrators will want to mess with it.  I've mostly been learning through trial and error and by looking at other wiki's source code,  -mel

[2005-05-18 19:48:20] - a: I like the wiki!  thanks for making me a username.  I have a wiki too but unfortunately its on my work's intranet so its not accessible to the outside.  :-(  I've been maintaining the wiki for about 6 months though and using it to learn some PHP.  I customized a bunch of the files (edited the toolbar, changed the gif on the upper left...). - mel

[2005-05-18 18:22:28] - pierce:  i found this in the wikimedia source code:  wgUsePathInfo      = ( strpos( php_sapi_name(), 'cgi' ) === false )  basically, i think that's saying, if you're using cgi, which i am, then it won't use the PATH_INFO variable ...for some reason i don't know yet.  ~a

[2005-05-18 18:16:24] - pierce:  if you send me a public key, i'll add it to ~wiki/.ssh/authorized_keys.  ~a

[2005-05-18 18:15:52] - pierce:  yeah, i know, i know.  i actually tried to do that.  the docs really don't say how to do that (i tried mod_alias, and really don't feel like loading up mod_rewrite unless i have to).  i looked at the docs online and they really didn't help either.  i even went as far as modifying localsettings.php.  ~a

[2005-05-18 17:09:55] - There's no compelling reason for that, except that I think it's more aesthetically pleasing and it more clearly denotes that "title" is not a variable slightly modifying the index's content, but rather that you are going to a full document devoted to that topic. - pierce

[2005-05-18 16:53:05] - a: can you set up the wiki so that "articles" are real URLs, rather than calls to a CGI script?  i.e. instead of http://wiki.aporter.org/index.php?title=Main_Page, you'd have http://wiki.aporter.org/wiki/Main_Page (the way wikipedia does it) - pierce

[2005-05-18 16:24:02] - a: you mean double quotes? i used single -amy

[2005-05-18 16:20:01] - amy:  oh sorry, quotations are required :-/  anyways, i'll fix it.  ~a

[2005-05-18 16:05:27] - um. i never used an A tag on the mboard before. i didn't realize that would happen ^_^; -amy

[2005-05-18 16:05:05] - paul: adrian posted the link to Amy, which is how I got the idea to edit the entry in the first place .p -amy

[2005-05-18 16:03:40] - a: i fixed the triangle.

[2005-05-18 16:01:57] - and tj IS on the main page.  ~a

[2005-05-18 16:01:50] - paul:  recent changes or all pages, or pretty much anything linking from special pages.  also tj links to vinnie.  ~a

[2005-05-18 16:00:24] - paul:  many many ways.  ~a

[2005-05-18 15:59:33] - a: That wasn't on the main page. How am I supposed to know it exists and how to find it? -Paul

[2005-05-18 15:58:04] - paul.  she was referring to:  v, arins, and a  ~a

[2005-05-18 15:56:26] - I don't see any triangles. -Paul

[2005-05-18 15:52:44] - not really a triangle.  more of a line.  since a doesn't connect to v:  A<->Arins<->V.  ~a

[2005-05-18 15:41:41] - http://www.lewrockwell.com/glaser/glaser32.html newsweek's article factually wrong?  probably not. - mig

[2005-05-18 15:40:42] - a: yay, i made a triangle.

[2005-05-18 15:35:29] - basically if you want to link to something, you just put it in s.  so Amy would get changed to Amy  ~a

[2005-05-18 15:34:02] - amy:  click on "edit" at the top of any page.  it's got a text interface (with it's own weird markup language and buttons to help you learn it).  there are also "discussion" or "talk" pages where you can talk about stuff.  ~a

[2005-05-18 15:26:06] - a: how do you add entries to the wiki thing?

[2005-05-18 15:07:31] - a: mm yeah, it's great! thanks! yay n ow my webpage is almost done! -amy

[2005-05-18 14:53:49] - amy:  is that what you wanted?  ~a

[2005-05-18 14:44:28] - and (for performance reasons, i'm sure) you can't set aliases in .htaccess files (.htaccess files are user specified configuration options for apache).  that means it's something i have to do :-/  ~a

[2005-05-18 14:44:15] - a: OK cool. thanks so much! -amy

[2005-05-18 14:43:10] - amy:  right right, this is the perspective of the webpage and not the fs.  ~a

[2005-05-18 14:32:41] - a: OOC, what does that entail? is that something ic ould do myself if i knew how, or something only you have permissions to do? -amy

[2005-05-18 14:32:16] - a: if you are saying just from the perspective of the webpage, and not the fs (i.e. when i ssh in, everything is where i think it is), then sure, go ahead -amy

[2005-05-18 14:29:11] - well.  the redirect should work exactly as you expect it to work now (http redirects have much better support than http-equiv redirects).  on the other hand, the alias would make: http://www.diotrans.us/cgi-bin/music2.cgi and http://www.diotrans.us/ would look the same (except your url() function would work as you would expect it to).  ~a

[2005-05-18 14:24:20] - a: dammit, i can't drink possible beers! I love that comic - aaron

[2005-05-18 14:24:19] - a: not totally understand your expl. what are the consequences of making the alias? and the redirect still doesn't work for me... -amy

[2005-05-18 14:20:04] - although i never really like http-equiv redirects (because when you hit the back button, it doesn't take you to the page you were just at like with real http redirects, it takes bounces you back to the page you hit the back button ON).  do you want me to alias / to /cgi-bin/music2.cgi?  ~a

[2005-05-18 14:18:28] - amy:  it works for me.  ~a

[2005-05-18 14:17:00] - more info on Schrödinger's cat (he actually thought the cat was either alive or dead, not both).  and aaron, it links to bob the angry flower!  ~a

[2005-05-18 14:13:47] - a: sorry to bug you again, but if you're around and know the answer... my index.html seems not to be refreshing... i don't know much about it, i just copied the thing from my last website. any insight? -amy

[2005-05-18 13:42:51] - doris (some girl) was told her operation was for appendicitis.  ~a

[2005-05-18 13:41:54] - so i guess i was a little off.  ~a

[2005-05-18 13:40:55] - aaron:  1972 was the last documented forced sterilization which was done in the home town of our good friend jerry falwell, (you guessed it) lynchburg.  ~a

[2005-05-18 13:30:39] - mig: Thank goodness the government is protecting us from the evil business that are trying to do that to us. :-P -Paul

[2005-05-18 13:27:29] - a:  and that doesn't surprise me one bit. - mig

[2005-05-18 13:17:29] - a: early 80s?? - aaron

[2005-05-18 13:12:31] - mig&amy:  yeah.  the government would lie about what operation was being performed.  ~a

[2005-05-18 13:09:30] - i guess in that one case of the girl who was pregnent and then steralized after I don't think it could be too hard to do. - mig

[2005-05-18 13:08:52] - amy:  you perform the operation without telling them?  they found some way, apparently. - mig

[2005-05-18 13:08:16] - how can that be done without the person's knowledge? -amy

[2005-05-18 13:03:29] - mig:  virginia was practicing eugenics in the 70s (and early 80s?)  ~a

[2005-05-18 12:53:01] - http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Health/story?id=708780 apparently some state governments were practicing eugenics back then. - mig

[2005-05-18 12:43:05] - paul:  excellent thanks. - mig

[2005-05-18 12:39:27] - mig: Ticket has been purchased. -Paul

[2005-05-18 12:26:14] - mig: yeah i really wanted to avoid escaping the / so as to avoid making it a nightmare to read .) -amy

[2005-05-18 12:25:42] - a: w00t!!! thank you thank you!! http://www.diotrans.us/cgi-bin/music2.cgi?page=completed;song_id=3 -amy

[2005-05-18 12:25:36] - mig:  no.  s### works too.  ~a

[2005-05-18 12:25:16] - basically it's happening 20 times because you're telling it to run the s/// for all 20 lines (i'm guessing that it's creating 19 BR tags on the following line and 18 BR tags on the following line)  ~a

[2005-05-18 12:24:53] - a: aha. i knew it was sth dumb. thanks!! -amy

[2005-05-18 12:24:45] - amy:  shouldn't that be: $string =~ s/\n/<br\/>/g? - mig

[2005-05-18 12:24:05] - yesm.  you're running the s/// for every line.  you can either move the line outside of the while loop or you can change it so that the operation gets done on $_ instead of $string.  ~a

[2005-05-18 12:23:41] - a: but maybe embarassed; this is probably the most poorly designed cgi backend ever .) -amy

[2005-05-18 12:23:18] - paul:  i'd rather you go ahead and buy it.  i don't quite trust online ordering for movie tickets quite yet. - mig

[2005-05-18 12:23:08] - a: not mad. did you find the mistake?

[2005-05-18 12:22:59] - a: i would not mind if you wanted to take a look, and if you didn't i could probably figure it out on my own, so it's up to how bored you are. music2.cgi in line 176. -amy

[2005-05-18 12:22:57] - it's not that line that's wrong (i hope you're not mad i looked).  ~a

[2005-05-18 12:21:53] - see i don't understand this:  $string =~ s#\n#<br />\n#g; <-- this is creating about 20 BR tags for every \n... -amy

[2005-05-18 12:20:55] - With all the showings Cinema De Lux has now, we could've easily have seen it there instead. :-/ -Paul

[2005-05-18 12:19:50] - And by the way, I don't like how all the theaters decided to wait until after I bought the tickets to suddenly say "Oh! We actually have a lot more showings of Episode III than we claimed yesterday." -Paul

[2005-05-18 12:18:54] - mig: http://www.movietickets.com/house_detail.asp?house_id=1278&showdate=1 There appear to still be tickets left available. I can buy one for you or you can do it yourself. It's your call. -Paul

[2005-05-18 12:18:24] - amy:  i can maybe tell you what's wrong with your script if you want me to.  ~a

[2005-05-18 12:17:54] - a: hrrm, i didn't think it should infinite loop... but when i took that line out the page loaded fine. sigh. -amy

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