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[2011-11-22 12:17:41] - Clearly after a certain point our brains just can't comprehend that level of wealth.  After that point it seems to cease to matter even as a way of keeping score.  This is Randall's source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2011/04/06/the-forbes-fictional-15/  Richie Rich (seriously?) is only $9.7B. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-22 12:14:38] - a/aaron: It took me a good 30-45 minutes to read through it all and I knew a large chunk of the data already.  It's definitely a massive effort.  I found it interesting/amusing that once aaron pointed out the Scrooge McDuck bit none of our rich fictional characters (the richest people we can imagine!) are as rich as Carlos Slim is in reality. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-22 12:08:52] - yeah!  that's yesterday's xkcd though.  i've only processed about a quarter of it so far.  there's a lot my friends at work were talking about parts i haven't read yet.  ~a

[2011-11-22 12:00:46] - http://xkcd.com/980/huge/ today's XKCD has lots of information. the most interesting tidbits to me were that scrooge mcduck, if real, would only be the sixth wealthiest person in the world - and that the rich do contribute a higher percentage of their income to taxes, but a lower percentage to state taxes - aaron

[2011-11-22 11:58:56] - IMO, NYC is best for it's "gritty" feel, London is best for "the voice", and Tokyo is my favorite overall because of it's interconnectivity with the rest of public transportation in the country. -Nina

[2011-11-22 11:56:48] - Nina: But like Aaron alluded to, I think it has enough shortcomings for somebody in my position where it's not significantly better than driving in. Even with traffic and parking issues, taking the metro often takes just as long and I don't think is noticeably cheaper. Since I drive to metro stations anyway, the DD factor also doesn't apply much. -Paul

[2011-11-22 11:54:29] - Nina: Heh, I was about to say that I honestly don't have a ton of experience for comparison, but I was impressed by the rail system in Tokyo. Like Xpovos, I've heard NYC's is good (I've only used it a few times). Perfectly willing to believe DC's is also relatively good... -Paul

[2011-11-22 11:41:55] - Nina: NYC's is amazingly good given the city-sprawl.  Best I've personally experienced was Munich, but that's not really a fair comparison.  Blacksburg's BT was also excellent for what it did.  The necessity of it and the value again are disputable, particularly since it was so HEAVILY subsidized. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-22 11:33:38] - Further clarification.  95% better than US systems out there.  Many european and asian countries have much better public transportation. -Nina

[2011-11-22 11:29:32] - Nina: I can see the DD thing being important, although I will say that when you guys hang out at our place, we do have a guest room you can use if you like. Also, I want to make sure nobody thinks that I'm blaming anybody for contributing to the traffic/parking issues. I just think they are worse in DC. -Paul

[2011-11-22 11:25:48] - Also, i think DC's system is better than 95% of systems out there.  Only better ones I've seen are NYC and Boston.  I think DC is equivalent to Bay Area/Chicago.  I can't think of any other US systems that are remotely comparable.  -Nina

[2011-11-22 11:11:47] - Paul: I think the DD thing is huge, which is why I prefer public transportation.  It honestly, kinda sucks that either Pierce or I have to watch what we drink when we hang out in Fairfax.  Regarding the traffic/parking issues, most of the people i know who live in DC don't have a car.  So they're not the ones contributing to traffic/parking issues. -Nina

[2011-11-22 10:50:58] - Again, I don't want people to misunderstand me. If there is something worth going to in DC, I'll put up with the inconvenience. But I do consider it to be a pretty major inconvenience and I don't understand why people seem to favor going into DC to do things that they can much more easily do outside of DC (I'm mainly thinking about going to bars). -Paul

[2011-11-22 10:49:38] - Nina: As for "if you choose to live in a place without those options, then you're creating the problem of traffic/parking issues", that's why I choose not to live in DC :-) (again, whether you consider DC to have good options or not). -Paul

[2011-11-22 10:48:16] - Nina: To go along with what Andrew said, I don't know if you consider DC to have good public transportation, but walking to a bus stop, then taking the bus to a metro station, riding the metro, and then walking to where I want to go is an even worse option than driving and looking for parking a lot of times. -Paul

[2011-11-22 10:38:46] - we ended up with a $45 taxi ride to the vienna metro stop where my car was parked, which wasn't the end of the world, but it still made me lose some faith in relying on the DC metro system as a viable alternative to owning a vehicle - aaron

[2011-11-22 10:37:26] - nina: i've been to electronic concerts in DC that ended later than 2:00, so public transportation wasn't an option. i guess arguably, one could choose not to live in DC to avoid traffic/parking issues :-p but i think xpovos has a good point - aaron

[2011-11-22 10:18:55] - I don't mind metro coming in, it's usually going out where I have issues.  Maybe it's a combination of drinking or being sleepy but I always seem to get a bit of motion sickness on the way back from DC. - mig

[2011-11-22 10:10:06] - a: Not that I know of. -Paul

[2011-11-22 10:08:49] - a: I'd rather have it than not, certainly. But the cost/value comparison relative to other metropolises is not good.  Either from the individual or the governmental sides. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-22 10:03:23] - nina:  we've missed you!  despite andrew's quip about our metro system, i actually don't mind it.  my other favorite part about the metro is the lack of needing a DD.  the downside to the metro (in my mind) is how much longer it takes to get in the city.  once you're in, i love the metro, but sometimes i don't have an hour to get to my destination.  ~a

[2011-11-22 09:56:42] - http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/11/foreign-aid-0 Colloquial "poor" vs. literal "poor".  The problem with national politics: quips work, detailed answers are never heard. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-22 09:56:03] - Nina: D.C. is emphatically not a 'good city' then. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-22 09:54:59] - BTW, Hi message board.  It's been a while.  -Nina

[2011-11-22 09:53:44] - You don't have to deal with traffic/parking if you use public transportation.  Good cities have good public transportation options.  And, if you choose to live in a place without those options, then you're creating the problem of traffic/parking issues.  -Nina

[2011-11-22 09:53:40] - You don't have to deal with traffic/parking if you use public transportation.  Good cities have good public transportation options.  And, if you choose to live in a place without those options, then you're creating the problem of traffic/parking issues.  -Nina

[2011-11-22 09:37:53] - yah.  g never replied to your question about facebook, did she?  :) ~a

[2011-11-22 09:11:33] - a: understood.  and i'm sure you already know this, but i have a different perspective.  and i think i'm not the only one. -Paul

[2011-11-21 17:25:15] - understood.  and i'm sure you already know this, but i have a different perspective.  and i think i'm not the only one.  ~a

[2011-11-21 17:24:08] - a: Even then, I am still tempted by Barcraft and would strongly consider going if it wasn't conflicting with frisbee and/or if Gurkie was interested in going. -Paul

[2011-11-21 17:21:41] - a: I just don't understand why I would want to spend an hour driving/looking for parking to spend a few hours in a loud bar with no seating where food and drink are expensive to do something I can do at home. -Paul

[2011-11-21 17:20:10] - a: Remember, I actually DO voluntarily go into DC for baseball games, and other things I deem worth the hassle. I also consider spending 5 hours on a plane to visit Vegas for a few days or driving 3 hours to spend a weekend at a remote cabin to be worth the inconvenience. -Paul

[2011-11-21 17:18:32] - a: "they are related since most of your reasoning (inconvenience) can be applied to other outings" I'm not sure I agree. I'm not opposed to going "further than 30 min". I'm opposed to needlessly going further and dealing with worse traffic/parking and paying more for food/drink. -Paul

[2011-11-21 17:13:26] - vinnie:  agreed.  ~a

[2011-11-21 17:00:25] - on the other side, the thing I liked about the cabin was that it was so isolated and in a pretty locale. the tradeoff is that you drive super far to get there :) - vinnie

[2011-11-21 16:59:29] - I'm not sure if a agrees, but a lot of inconveniences that come with cities are side effects of what I like about them. I like that there's so much variety and people in cities, a million things to look at, and so walkable. of course, with that you get crowded streets, annoying parking, etc. - vinnie

[2011-11-21 16:53:49] - paul:  "I don't see why 'not liking going into the city' is being equated with being a home-body."  fair enough, i shouldn't equate them.  still, they are related since most of your reasoning (inconvenience) can be applied to other outings.  if you're unwilling to go further than 30 min, then you probably won't make it to vegas, west-virginia, any ski resort, etc. ~a

[2011-11-21 16:46:37] - a: And lastly, I don't see why "not liking going into the city" is being equated with being a home-body. I never said anything about not wanting to go out, I just prefer going out to places which don't take an hour to get to and find parking, just so I have the privilege of overpaying for food and drink in a crowded place where I can't find seating. -Paul

[2011-11-21 16:44:34] - yeah most of those are neutral.  i like driving so even what some would consider shitty driving situations are something i consider neutral.  ~a

[2011-11-21 16:43:51] - a: And I find it mind-boggling that you don't consider trouble finding parking/seating and expensive food and drink to be neutral. Weren't you complaining about not finding parking at the movie theater near where I live? You don't care about price when it comes to food and drink? -Paul

[2011-11-21 16:42:06] - a: In my case, 66 and traffic to DC is closely linked, but I was also referring to the trouble finding where to go, where you parked, and illegal turns that Aaron mentioned which you said you agreed with. -Paul

[2011-11-21 16:19:52] - paul:  "bad traffic"  i don't find the traffic in cities to be objectively better or worse than what i see on 66.  "trouble finding parking/seating"  often neutral  "expensive food and drink"  always neutral.  maybe i have an overly-positive view of the world:  being a home-body is far more convenient, but also far less satisfying.  imo, of course.  ~a

[2011-11-21 16:14:10] - a: Oops, I think there were too many negatives in there. -Paul

[2011-11-21 16:09:31] - a: You seriously don't think that bad traffic, trouble finding parking/seating, expensive food and drink and all the other things mentioned aren't undesirable and are just neutral? -Paul

[2011-11-21 16:05:56] - a: I'm not sure those are comparable situations. I won't speak for Aaron, but I was mentioning things that I feel are objectively worse in cities. It's not just spice. Those other things you mentioned are significantly different experiences. -Paul

[2011-11-21 16:03:13] - aaron: I hate crosswalks in cities, because as a pedestrian, I always feel like I am in danger and am inconveniencing cars, while as a driver, I feel like I can never go through them since there always seem to be pedestrians (and I keep worrying about not seeing them). -Paul

[2011-11-21 15:54:01] - a: there'd probably be better seating, cheaper drinks, better restaurants nearby, better parking, less traffic, fewer homeless people, we wouldn't get bothered on the way back to our car, etc etc. but i agree, i don't care if something bad happens, convenience is boring - aaron

[2011-11-21 15:52:57] - a: i agree, i didn't regret going into DC yesterday, i had a good time and i'd go again if i knew it would go the same way. that said if they had barcraft out in the suburbs i think we'd enjoy it more - aaron

[2011-11-21 15:50:40] - paul/aaron:  these situations are the spice of life.  if you think these situations are undesirable (instead of neutral) then why ever go out on a date?  why ever plan a cabin trip to west-virginia or a bachelor party in vegas?  something bad could happen, oh noes!  ~a

[2011-11-21 15:45:19] - or when adrian and i crossed a street yesterday, and a car honked at us because i guess they didn't like having to stop at a crosswalk? i thought that was funny too. i guess maybe "unexpected benign surprise" is a better word for it. - aaron

[2011-11-21 15:44:33] - g: Yeah, wait. You threatened every female friend I have on facebook? :-P -Paul

[2011-11-21 15:43:10] - if it was right before your wedding, i assume chelsae is you and kasey is paul.  now i'm wondering who katherine is.  ~a

[2011-11-21 15:43:09] - aaron: Oooh, that's another good point. I'm pretty sure every time I drive in a city, I break at least 2 laws (often without knowing it). I remember leaving a baseball game in Baltimore and driving the wrong way down a multi-lane one-way street. Thank god the light was red, which gave me time to quickly turn off the road before I had a head-on collision. -Paul

[2011-11-21 15:42:42] - g: funny in the same way having a car unexpectedly towed out of my driveway is funny, or finding a centipede asleep in your headphones is funny. i don't think i actually laughed, but i was amused on some level. - aaron

[2011-11-21 15:41:16] - i don't think "hilariously overpriced" means that it is seriously funny.  "hilariously overpriced" just means very-overpriced.  ~a

[2011-11-21 15:35:18] - This was totally me before my wedding... http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Failbooking/~3/WlGBDfj4ReQ/ ~g

[2011-11-21 15:34:45] - aaron: is it actually funny when something is hilariously overpriced? I don't think I would find it very funny... except that I don't eat seafood so I could just laugh at everyone else while eating my reasonably priced side... ~g

[2011-11-21 15:05:17] - *accounts.  ~a

[2011-11-21 15:05:09] - yeah . . . i agree on all accouns.  ~a

[2011-11-21 15:04:39] - :-\  ~a

[2011-11-21 14:52:49] - a: also had trouble remembering which street we parked on. i did have a good time, but if we had been in the suburbs, our night would have been cheaper/easier/more efficient - aaron

[2011-11-21 14:52:10] - a: although we DID have trouble finding where to go, made a few illegal right turns, drove the wrong way on a one-way street, the seafood place we went was hilariously overpriced and when we got to the bar there was nowhere to sit - aaron

[2011-11-21 09:37:49] - anon:  who the hell knows.  i'm always in the mood for a good irish coffee.  ~a

[2011-11-21 09:17:51] - Why, oh why, didn't I Irish up my coffee this morning?

[2011-11-21 09:17:30] - the second time i went into dc yesterday, there was (again) ample parking on the street.  at both locations we went.  three places in dc have ample parking?  a coincidence, yes, but still, it does sometimes happen.  ~a

[2011-11-21 09:10:58] - a: Good for you? I don't think I've ever gotten into DC in less than 20 minutes or been able to easily find parking outside of a parking garage in certain areas. -Paul

[2011-11-19 12:26:22] - paul:  it took me nine minutes to get to dc this morning. and there is parking everywhere!  :P ~a

[2011-11-18 17:58:16] - a: haha! ~g

[2011-11-18 15:54:38] - g: "Won't be nearly as bad" still doesn't mean it will be good. :-) -Paul

[2011-11-18 15:47:21] - obviously you need a new husband.  lmk if i can help you with that.  ~a

[2011-11-18 15:45:50] - paul: going to areas other than georgetown, adamms morgan, and dupont wont be nearly as bad... ~g

[2011-11-18 15:44:39] - a: sadly I havent branched out but do like dc... except Im married to this guy that hates cities which makes going in tend to be annoying... I feel guilty when he has a bad time but occasionally I make him go anyway and when it turns out bad its awful. ~g

[2011-11-18 14:42:10] - a: Nerds can't be thugs?  Thats something-ist though I'm having trouble deciding on what the something is.  -Daniel

[2011-11-18 14:31:04] - tenleytown isn't one of those places.  how could you possibly have a community of people that breed nerds who enjoy settlers, st petersburg, and starcraft in a sketchy part of town?  ~a

[2011-11-18 14:27:07] - a: Although I do worry a bit, because usually the only places in DC where I've found ample parking are the places where I fear for my life. :-) -Paul

[2011-11-18 14:26:57] - for the most part, the few of us in our group that like dc have branched out and made friends who hang there.  ~a

[2011-11-18 14:26:17] - a: You're not beating a dead horse. I'm definitely interested in going, and it doesn't appear to be available outside of DC. If Gurkie would go along, and there wasn't frisbee, I might consider going. Knowing that ample parking is available ups the chances of me going. -Paul

[2011-11-18 14:25:03] - Paul: Also, generally also paying for parking and city driving.  Though those could both be far less annoying in certain cities as compared with D.C. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-18 14:21:48] - aaron:  ok.  ~a

[2011-11-18 14:21:34] - not sure if i'm beating a dead horse.  i've always found very convenient parking near barcraft and it's very close to a metro.  it's in a particularly distant part of the city though.  ~a

[2011-11-18 14:19:25] - a: sorry i'm with paul, i put up with DC because i don't really have a choice. if skrillex or tmbg or barcraft was available out in reston/herndon, i'd give up on DC in a heartbeat - aaron

[2011-11-18 13:41:44] - a: Sure, that's why I said, "I tolerate going into DC for baseball games". I value going to the game more than I am bothered by the inconvenience. It's worth pointing out, though, that I don't have much of a choice, since going to another professional baseball game would require driving farther away. -Paul

[2011-11-18 13:14:47] - if so . . . then i refer to my original sentiment:  you're boring.  ~a

[2011-11-18 13:14:02] - i consider urban areas exciting (with a little inconvenience), and you consider urban areas inconvenient (with a little excitement)?  ~a

[2011-11-18 13:12:14] - anyways, i think xpovos and i are agreeing at least a little:  "obviously the appeal is in something else that makes the inconvenience and cost of parking worthwhile"  yeah, so, that!  what say you, paul.  if there's something fun to do in dc that doesn't exist outside of dc, like a night-club, strip-club, barcraft, baseball, you admit that it might be worth it?  ~a

[2011-11-18 13:10:38] - that's the joke.  ~a

[2011-11-18 13:09:34] - Aaron: I'm not sure counteracted is the word you want there... -Paul

[2011-11-18 13:01:07] - aaron:  hey, you like dc!  :)  ~a

[2011-11-18 12:59:50] - paul: well, the parking and traffic issues are counteracted by the higher drink prices - aaron

[2011-11-18 12:59:16] - Xpovos: Right, which is why Barcraft is tempting. I don't necessarily want to go before or after frisbee, though. What I really want is for somebody outside of DC to have a Barcraft thing. -Paul

[2011-11-18 12:47:17] - Paul: Bars, yes.  Barcraft?  Apparently not?  Also, at least in my neck of the woods there aren't too many bars at all.  D.C. definitely has a selection.  So if you wanted to do 'bar-hopping', well, PWC isn't your first choice. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-18 12:32:11] - Xpovos: Oh, I know, and it's why I tolerate going into DC for baseball games. I just don't understand why people want to go into DC to go to bars. Aren't there bars outside of DC too? -Paul

[2011-11-18 12:26:42] - Paul: Well, obviously the appeal is in something else that makes the inconvenience and cost of parking worthwhile.  Or enough to overcome the cost and inconvenience of public transit.  That said, the more you drive in the D.C. the easier it gets.  Just like anything else, it has patterns that can be adapted to. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-18 12:22:08] - Xpovos: Yeah, I'll never quite understand the appeal of going into cities like DC. You're saying I can pay for parking AND have a hard time finding it? Sold! -Paul

[2011-11-18 12:20:20] - a: I expect having trouble finding parking in cities too, which is why I don't like going into them. I suppose it doesn't help that I usually don't enjoy myself in DC as much. If they ever have Barcraft outside of DC, though, I would be much more into it. -Paul

[2011-11-18 12:13:54] - Paul: Can you imagine how bad it would be trying to find parking in D.C. if people didn't have to pay for it? -- Xpovos

[2011-11-18 12:08:54] - paul:  most importantly, i go into dc far less frequently.  i go to fair lakes on average 50 times per year.  i go into dc on average 2 times per year (though that number is on the rise).  so i'm willing to take a little heartache once a quarter for a crazy fun time.  ~a

[2011-11-18 12:07:19] - yes, i probably have more trouble finding parking in DC.  but it's a city and i expect these things.  i also have more fun in dc, so it's worth it  :-D  ~a

[2011-11-18 12:05:05] - yeah, this was long ago.  way before i knew about the government center parking.  and no, i wasn't driving around for an hour, but driving from my house to DC always takes less time and has fewer cars than driving from my house to Fair Lakes so yes the traffic to drive to fairfax is "the same" as traffic driving into dc.  ~a

[2011-11-18 11:51:51] - mig: Yeah, opening day for one of the Harry Potter movies was also bad. It's definitely happened a few times. -Paul

[2011-11-18 11:50:37] - a: Also, I think the chances of them happening aren't the same. Every time I've driven into DC I've had tons of trouble finding parking AND had to pay for it, whereas I've only had trouble finding parking at that theater a few times (and no trouble plenty of times). -Paul

[2011-11-18 11:44:33] - s/day/weekend

[2011-11-18 11:44:09] - paul:  i recall opening day for dark knight was really bad (not sure if ~a was referring to that, but it can't be the only time something like that happened).  - mig

[2011-11-18 11:43:08] - a: Also, I don't think traffic to drive to Fairfax is quite the same as traffic driving into DC. -Paul

[2011-11-18 11:42:33] - a: You drove around for an hour? I know that parking lot can seriously suck (and Gurkie can vouch for me that I've gotten really annoyed at it before), but I've always been able to park at the government center nearby as a worst case scenario. I don't think I've ever spent more than 15 minutes looking for parking there. -Paul

[2011-11-18 11:20:39] - i've done that before.  not in dc, though.  at the movie theater near your house, believe it or not.  that wasn't fun for me either, sorry.  i still go to that theater though because i've had some seriously good times there.  hopefully you see some parallel.  ~a

[2011-11-18 11:12:40] - a: The last time I went into DC for anything, I spent about an hour driving around looking for a parking spot, before it was decided to just go home. So I basically drove into DC, drove around for an hour, and then drove home. That just isn't fun for me, sorry. -Paul

[2011-11-18 10:49:53] - paul:  you're boring.  ~a

[2011-11-18 09:23:50] - a: I don't like going into DC (this applies to both Barcraft and ODC). Let me know when Barcraft is somewhere reasonable and there is an occupy Fairfax movement. :-) -Paul

[2011-11-17 16:17:33] - xpovos: try to avoid it!!! ~g

[2011-11-17 15:40:25] - xpovos:  it will be through your commute, sorry.  ~a

[2011-11-17 15:39:26] - uhh haha, that's exactly what we do.  ~a

[2011-11-17 15:23:49] - You need to lobby the army to give out free android phones adrian!  http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2011/1115/How-an-iPhone-revolution-could-turn-the-Army-upside-down  -Daniel

[2011-11-17 15:14:30] - a: Oh, crap.  Not through my commute, please! -- Xpovos

[2011-11-17 13:58:27] - also I have to be at my house to await the arrival of some furniture, regardless. - mig

[2011-11-17 13:57:54] - protesting what, exactly? - mig

[2011-11-17 13:55:30] - occupy dc is doing some sort of protest thing at 1430 around the key bridge.  who's going?  :)  ~a

[2011-11-17 13:27:26] - a: S'ok, you're all adults. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-17 13:16:21] - we'll take a public shower . . . hahaha.  ~a

[2011-11-17 13:15:58] - yes.  ~a

[2011-11-17 13:15:32] - a:  is this in the same place as before? - mig

[2011-11-17 13:10:14] - if it's after, i'll want a shower - aaron

[2011-11-17 13:09:55] - a: sure, before sounds good - aaron

[2011-11-17 12:58:44] - but you have a good point, i'll be less likely to want to play ultimate after a few hours in a bar.  maybe after is better?  ~a

[2011-11-17 12:56:42] - if i'm safe to drive home, i should be safe to play ultimate ;-)  ~a

[2011-11-17 12:53:09] - a:  i'm almost certainly not going to be in a state to play frisbee if it's going to be "before". - mig

[2011-11-17 12:52:10] - aaron/mig/daniel/paul:  barcraft is this sunday 1100-2200.  we can go before ultimate or after?  . . . if it's "after" i'll want to find a shower first so "before" is probably better.  opinions?  ~a

[2011-11-17 12:35:03] - mig: That's kind of awesome.  Works as a fantasy team name, though.  I may have to get a new team name next year.  I mean, clearly the Rampagers are due for rebranding after this terrible performance. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-17 12:07:28] - http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Canadian-team-draws-heat-for-Jack-the-Ripper-n?urn=mlb-wp27055 team naming lesson #1: don't look to serial killers as a source of inspiration. - mig

[2011-11-17 11:06:10] - a: I'd always wondered what a fractal cat would look like and now I know.  Thank you.  -Daniel

[2011-11-17 10:31:10] - eh baby pact says all try to have babies around the same time... not necessarily as soon as you commit to the pact. ~g

[2011-11-17 10:28:12] - seriously, if you're in the baby pact, i'd hope you're following the eighth rule.  i think that's the only non-joke rule.  ~a

[2011-11-17 10:16:57] - vinnie: so if i were in this thing you speak of I would be doing something wrong.... ~g

[2011-11-17 10:16:43] - aaron: cute! ~g

[2011-11-17 10:16:03] - a: CREEPY KITTY CITY! ~g

[2011-11-17 10:03:47] - welcome to kitty city.  please drive carefully.  ~a

[2011-11-17 00:27:05] - http://imgur.com/bl5Ff math jokes - aaron

[2011-11-16 16:01:01] - 8th rule is if this is your first time at baby pact, you have to make a baby - vinnie

[2011-11-16 15:59:24] - g:  the first rule of baby pact is you do not talk about baby pact / the second rule of baby pact is you do not talk about baby pact?  ~a

[2011-11-16 15:51:50] - title: what baby pact? O:-) ~g

[2011-11-16 15:37:35] - 20 people died on a 9 seater minibus in China... Apparently they managed to squeeze 64 people onto a bus built to sit 9.... That is crazy. ~g

[2011-11-16 15:37:15] - g:  just something funny i saw on facebook and thought it fit my life:  six of my friends are recently married and most of them won't shut up about the baby-pact.  O:-)  - title

[2011-11-16 15:32:12] - title: who is prego?? ~g

[2011-11-16 15:30:54] - a: yes, it was very prominently featured in the background of the show alongside, i think, settlers of catan and some other game (trans-america?) and i read up on it and it sounded really funny. - aaron

[2011-11-16 15:02:22] - wtf, seriously?  ~a

[2011-11-16 15:01:14] - a: that's how i found out about the war in terror board game :-) - aaron

[2011-11-16 14:27:33] - two interesting "The IT Crowd" notes:  1.  hey i just saw a movie with this guy in it last night!  bridesmaids (2011).  2.  the war on terror board game we played at bachelor party #1 is in the background of many of the scenes.  ~a

[2011-11-16 13:53:21] - some more info on why SOPA is super awesome!  i think the "graphs" on the third section are kind of silly.  reddit, techdirt, etc are taking part in some sort of protest today.  ~a

[2011-11-15 16:21:14] - aaron:  "a decentralized, unseizable, unstoppable financial infrastructure that lets them get paid — and lets everybody else transfer money anonymously, invisibly and unstoppable. It would be a dictator’s nightmare. And the copyright industry’s"  hmmm.  i wonder what he's referring to here.  ~a

[2011-11-15 15:57:46] - http://torrentfreak.com/perhaps-the-copyright-industry-deserves-some-credit-for-pointing-out-our-single-points-of-failure-111113/ pretty funny theory as to what might theoretically happen if SOPA passes (a bill which holds payment network providers legally responsible for monetary transactions) - aaron

[2011-11-15 15:33:27] - Ugh, I dont like the idea of having them show up when your address is found in their contacts list... That means a lot of people I didnt friend may have seen me and thought... Hmm should I friend her? And then decided not to! ~g

[2011-11-15 14:39:21] - Paul: Also, if the person synched theirs and your e-mail address with Facebook shows up.  I have some friend recommendations that way from AIM of all places.  Buddy lists get imported into Facebook too if you allow it.  So people who had me on their AIM buddy list will show up as "Friend this person". -- Xpovos

[2011-11-15 14:22:08] - a: I think it's possible I've synched my gmail and facebook accounts, and that could be how they find out I know these people. -Paul

[2011-11-15 13:44:58] - paul:  creepy is right.  i wonder if maybe it looks at search history or something?  i searched for this person and maybe they searched for me, but my original search returned no meaningful results.  ~a

[2011-11-15 13:43:57] - oh wow i've never used "track changes" with spreadsheets (ods).  only with text (odt).  ~a

[2011-11-15 13:31:04] - a: Yeah, I've had that happen before. It's creepy because usually they are right. Maybe it looks at common interests and where you live or something? I don't know. -Paul

[2011-11-15 13:19:27] - xpovos: my best guess is that if you're using track changes in excel, or something like that, there's a tab marked "history" and they don't want the tab name to be ambiguous. if they gave the tab a weird name, people would wonder why the track changes popped up a "history underscore" tab - aaron

[2011-11-15 13:08:42] - a:  i've seen that happen before, and I never know who that person even remotely is.  I guess there's some friend of friend of friend algorithm at work there. - mig

[2011-11-15 12:58:28] - has this ever happened to you?  under facebook's "find friends" section, it lists all the people that it thinks you might know.  most of them are people with a lot of mutual friends.  but every once and a while it picks somebody with no mutual friends.  and i have to rhetorically ask "facebook, how the hell did you know that?!?!"  ~a

[2011-11-15 12:51:50] - imo they shouldn't need a "reserved name".  that's lazy programming.  with today's languages and today's persistence systems it's arguably easier to allow everything.  ~a

[2011-11-15 12:08:58] - I told Excel to name a sheet "History".  It binged at me and told me that "History" was a reserved name.  I can work with that, and I appreciate the useful error message, but that's gotta be a useful name to have for a lot of workbooks.  Why couldn't they have reserved something like "History_"? -- Xpovos

[2011-11-15 10:57:50] - Sadly, I can totally see that happening too. Romney coming in 2nd would be a big deal since he hasn't been putting any effort into the state after losing to Huckabee last time around, and we all know Ron Paul is a fringe candidate with no chance of winning. :-) -Paul

[2011-11-15 10:56:47] - http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/15/iowa-poll-4-way-battle-7-weeks-from-caucuses/?hpt=hp_bn3 Wow, out of nowhere, Ron Paul is basically tied for 1st with three others in Iowa. Love this comment: When Paul wins the Iowa Caucus the headline will be “Romney Second in Iowa.” -Paul

[2011-11-15 09:58:54] - mig: hulk confused! ahahha - aaron

[2011-11-14 20:16:41] - aaron:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-oQ2QVSXYxE#t=157s thought you might like this... - mig

[2011-11-14 16:03:50] - oops, my sister and i?  ~a

[2011-11-14 16:02:41] - "pepperoni and black olive"  wow, that was the first pizza topping option that my sister and me could agree on.  ~a

[2011-11-14 15:44:59] - Sadly I generally get pepperoni and black olives thus coming in low on this scale.  :/  -Daniel

[2011-11-14 15:44:37] - The more toppings a man has has on his pizza, I believe the more manly he is - Herman Cain

[2011-11-14 15:28:48] - g:  i don't think nina will see your message ;-)  ~a

[2011-11-14 14:37:22] - julie went to penn state and i donated some money to a charity that was somehow associated with the school.  so, i still have a penn state t-shirt and a magnet and other junk at my house.  ~a

[2011-11-14 13:37:01] - g: I e-mailed it on to Katie, since she doesn't read the message board.  I wonder how many licenses they'll 'sell' today for that free app. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-14 13:24:03] - nina: apparently McQuery the graduate assistant from Penn State was placed on administrative leave... From our discussion at Sakura. ~g

[2011-11-14 13:14:00] - amy:  i'm guessing that made for an interesting sentence.  ~a

[2011-11-14 13:13:38] - xpovos: glad you saw that, I was thinking of emailing it to you specifically but figured others might also want it... ~g

[2011-11-14 12:25:30] - g: Awesome deal, thanks! -- Xpovos

[2011-11-14 12:09:33] - i <3 swype: "girlfriend" --> "toiletries" -amy

[2011-11-14 11:51:29] - The circle is complete if Rick Perry was in Big Daddy too. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-14 11:43:18] - to people with android phones/tablets amazon is giving away QuickOffice pro today, which allows for editing/creating word/excel/powerpoint type files... ~g

[2011-11-14 10:34:50] - aaaron: Oh, right. I can't believe I didn't get the Perry reference, since I watched it. I forgot Stewart was in Big Daddy also. -Paul

[2011-11-14 10:24:07] - oh haha, i didn't see aaron's message.  ~a

[2011-11-14 10:23:50] - paul:  it was on thursday, so it was a reference to perry's meltdown the night before.  also jon was in one of sandler's well known movies.  which is what made me excited about the joke.  ~a

[2011-11-14 10:19:42] - Adam Sandler attended CMU's Lunar Gala fashion show, sadly not the year I was in it though. ~g

[2011-11-14 09:50:28] - paul: jon stewart was in "big daddy". also, it's a reference to some republican presidential candidate who couldn't remember three important things recently - aaron

[2011-11-14 09:09:08] - a: I'm not sure I get either reason why it's funny... Is it because he doesn't have three good movies? -Paul

[2011-11-13 23:03:22] - http://youtu.be/lqBhgEQ4LT0 anybody interested in seeing justice at the 9:30 club on march 21? - aaron

[2011-11-11 13:23:08] - bahaha.  jon stuart's opening last night:  "our guest:  adam sandler, sandler the star of my three favorite movies:  billy madason, happy gilmore, and ohhh . . . what is the third . . . "  super funny for two reasons :-D  ~a

[2011-11-10 17:59:09] - it sounds like his diet isn't any more unhealthy than mine is though.  he's been eating fresh vegetables, multivitamins, and protein.  i don't do all of those things.  oh and his sample size is n=1.  ~a

[2011-11-10 17:55:19] - "But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so."  nice.  i like this story.  ~a

[2011-11-10 14:51:59] - http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/ twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds - aaron

[2011-11-10 14:25:11] - g:Not a 100% sure, but I think one of those RPG battle mats could probably serve as a board. - mig

[2011-11-10 14:19:32] - wishilst for google reader: getting direct urls from feed entries. - mig

[2011-11-10 14:16:30] - i'll play.  ~a

[2011-11-10 13:52:54] - http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Failbooking/~3/2PNbNs6ohnA/ can we play??? Build me a board!!! ~g

[2011-11-08 22:29:43] - mig: Big thing. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-08 17:57:58] - yay, ty.  ~a

[2011-11-08 17:46:39] - a: http://www.weddingwire.com/deweylovesdee -Paul

[2011-11-08 17:39:19] - uhh, where is dewey/dee's wedding website?  google doesn't seem to know about it and my invitation is at home.  ~a

[2011-11-08 14:31:39] - xpovos:  well is this like a big thing?  or just a local concert? - mig

[2011-11-08 11:34:30] - xpovos: I've only done promotion for Flickerfall concerts, and what we did was a) e-mail people b) make lots of posts on social media sites c) put up flyers at Amy's work - vinnie

[2011-11-08 09:23:46] - subtitle:  :(  ~a

[2011-11-07 16:04:27] - xpovos:  well pierce (for the most part) doesn't read here anymore.  you'd be more likely to get a response via email.  ~a

[2011-11-07 15:37:32] - a:  pierce did something like that, yes. - mig

[2011-11-07 15:20:10] - didn't pierce/vinnie/miguel do something like that in college?  ~a

[2011-11-07 14:54:50] - Has anyone here done promotion for concerts?  I may have just roped myself into something way outside my comfort zone and I have no idea how to proceed. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-07 12:08:17] - aaron: we hid it at that age, especially seeing as how I was like 9 and taking my baby sister to the 7-11... when I was a little older and I was allowed some, especially at halloween time! But we still hid a bunch of it to make sure we actually ate some. ~g

[2011-11-07 11:37:57] - g: i thought your parents wouldn't let you have any candy? i think your sister mentioned that at your wedding - aaron

[2011-11-07 11:07:16] - title: Thanks for the bday wishes! ~g

[2011-11-07 10:54:45] - I didnt watch the video... but since it sounds like its about halloween candy... my parents used to "test" some of my candy by taking it away and eating it. Additionally a lot of my friends' parents would take their candy away... Hence we would hide as much as we reasonable could before bringing it home to be viewed by our parents. ~g

[2011-11-04 13:30:04] - If my parents did this to me, I probably would react badly.  maybe even hold a longtime grudge about it too, even after they revealed it to be a prank. - mig

[2011-11-04 13:29:11] - xpovos:  i do wonder though how many reactions of this were staged, like the last 2. - mig

[2011-11-04 10:59:45] - aaron:  well why would you need another game?  you've got the premiere bear driving and hibernation simulator. There's no other like it.  - mig

[2011-11-04 10:56:54] - aaron: haha that last kid is handling it better than I would today. he's so calm and rational - vinnie

[2011-11-04 10:26:40] - direct correlation between box office gross and # of explosions in michael bay movies - aaron

[2011-11-04 10:25:28] - mig: :D still the only game i've purchased on my droid - aaron

[2011-11-04 01:08:08] - aaron:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cxM5UIsAnE&feature=channel_video_title - mig

[2011-11-03 23:07:12] - a: I'm not 100% sure of that.  One of the shots seemed to be a lot of candy wrappers.  Now, maybe that was just intricately staged, but maybe in that case the parents really did eat the candy? -- Xpovos

[2011-11-03 21:39:59] - "kids don't have a lot of control over their lives"  wow i certainly didn't see that side of the prank.  you have a good point, but on the plus side, it is only a temporary prank:  in the end they still get the control over their candy back.  ~a

[2011-11-03 21:02:27] - aaron: The cruelty is why I'm horrified, but the innocence, and the depth of the responses are impressive.  I particularly liked the kid at ~2 minutes.  All the comments are calling him a stoner or stupid shit, but he's got it together.  In fact, it's like he anticipated this kind of event, because he had a secret secondary stash! -- Xpovos

[2011-11-03 17:17:42] - xpovos: but, those last two kids were so cute about it - aaron

[2011-11-03 17:17:32] - xpovos: in the kids' defense, that's a really mean prank to play. kids don't have a lot of control over their lives and taking away that little bit of control with a prank like seems really cruel to me - aaron

[2011-11-03 15:15:30] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQpbzQ6gzs I both love and am horrified by this. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-03 14:39:56] - paul: you nerd!

[2011-11-03 14:39:51] - https://www.google.com/search?q=do+a+barrel+roll google, stop altering my search results! - aaron

[2011-11-03 14:28:34] - Has everybody tried putting "do a barrel roll" into google to see what happens? -Paul

[2011-11-03 14:13:44] - a: Im assuming you are being coy in saying that you thought it was real.... but its hard to tell here... ~g

[2011-11-03 12:43:24] - title:  nice!  but you're not going to be the title for long since it's gurkie's birthday tomorrow.  >:O  ~a

[2011-11-03 12:39:16] - oh, was it fake?  he told it with such sincerity that i always assumed it was real.  ~a

[2011-11-03 12:24:08] - title: violins? yes.

[2011-11-03 11:56:18] - a: also... yea I stand by my previous statement... despite not necessarily wanting someone to read it... ~g

[2011-11-03 11:55:49] - a: that was a fake roomba story! ~g

[2011-11-03 11:53:18] - the other subtitle was about the daily show.  ~a

[2011-11-03 11:51:48] - interesting subtitles today!  one refers to g's messages about who was the most of a jock in our group:  "I guess it boils down to how people are matched based on actions or based on personality... if we are going based off stereotypes and personality I would submit Dewey is more of the group jock ... (hope that isnt seen as an insult or that he doesnt read it"  ~a

[2011-11-03 11:42:14] - my favorite roomba story is the one that involves a shower.  ~a

[2011-11-03 11:39:30] - xpovos:  penis.  ~a

[2011-11-03 11:11:37] - http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/epic-win-photos-photobombing-espn-win.jpg Penis? -- Xpovos

[2011-11-03 11:09:23] - aaron: not sure if you were there but when my mom first saw my roomba vacuuming she thought I should buy it bows and name it and keep it as a pet.. ~g

[2011-11-03 11:08:50] - aaron: the roomba is sooo cute :-) ~g

[2011-11-02 16:04:44] - xpovos: i've never watched a roomba try to fight its way out from under a table/chairs but i feel like i'd probably watch it closely too. - aaron

[2011-11-02 15:53:33] - aaron: I don't know... he's getting basically the same entertainment value.  It's the new reality TV show. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-02 15:32:12] - I hope buying property is back and people nagging you on your cellphone is gone.  -Daniel

[2011-11-02 15:31:51] - mig: woo gta5! -Daniel

[2011-11-02 14:53:33] - aaron: So true... -Paul

[2011-11-02 14:15:18] - i bought a roomba to make my life more efficient - aaron

[2011-11-02 13:41:45] - gta5 trailer just got released.  It looks like it may be set in San Andreas. - mig

[2011-11-02 12:52:45] - no i hadn't read about that.  it should be a publish/subscribe system imo.  my TV (I don't have cable either) and phone should have apps that I can subscribe to this information on.  also, wtf:  reverse 911 is a registered trademark?  maybe we should be calling this something else then.  ~a

[2011-11-02 11:38:13] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_911

[2011-11-02 11:37:40] - Because cell phones aren't as well registered (governmentally) and because of their mobile nature, they're substantially less effective for those purposes.  That was part of the push behind GPS trackers in cell phones, for 911 emergency response, but likely, eventually, 911 emergency preemptive actions. -- Xpovos

[2011-11-02 11:36:32] - Daniel: Say there's a natural disaster (a flood, or a wildfire) and there's an evacuation order.  To ensure everyone gets it, they'll utilize the landline phone system to call every house in the affected area with a pre-recorded message indicating they should evacuate.  -- Xpovos

[2011-11-02 11:21:46] - Xpovos: Whats a reverse 911 call situation? -Daniel

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