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[2012-08-28 11:56:44] - mig: i understand why some people find the belief offensive, but isn't that the traditional "pro-life" stance? i mean, did he offend any pro-life people? were there any independents who were suddenly like, "THAT'S what pro life means?? holy shit!" - aaron
[2012-08-28 11:56:43] - Honestly it feelsl ike a more wordy reddit now than an actual news source. - mig
[2012-08-28 11:56:16] - aaron: huffpo isn't your run of the mill publication like a New York Times or Washington Post. There's usually lots of editorializing and apparently not much oversight over what gets posted. - mig
[2012-08-28 11:50:48] - paul: you are correct in your speculation. The interviewer asked him about abortion in cases of rape and his response (I misquoted it slightly earlier): " I'm very proud of my pro-life record and I've always adopted the idea - the position - that the method of conception does not change the definition of life". - mig
[2012-08-28 11:47:17] - Aaron: Ah, yeah. I guess I don't feel as strongly as you do about it, but I think I agree in general. I was going to remark that it sounded like an onion article (especially on the heels of the Akin comment): "Paul Ryan shouldn't be eligible for VP because he believes rape can lead to pregnancy!". -Paul
[2012-08-28 11:44:41] - paul: based on your speculation that "maybe [paul ryan is] explaining how he is against abortion in cases of rape" -- again, where you were just kind of trying to guess what offensive moment paul slansky was reacting to, since he was too angry to bother citing it properly in his "article" - aaron
[2012-08-28 11:43:44] - is this a typical writing style for paul slansky? or a typical article from huffington post? if so, why do people read it? no offense but the whole article just reads like some forum troll or something, it's really the lowest form of writing. i feel stupider for having read it. i wish he could have at least quoted the video, or explained his position better - aaron
[2012-08-28 11:43:35] - aaron: "based on what paul is saying" Heh, which Paul? Me? Paul Slansky? Paul Ryan? Too many Pauls! -Paul
[2012-08-28 11:42:13] - i don't understand why this is an article at the huffington post? why didn't paul slansky explain his position at all? how is rape not a method of conception? why is this an offensive statement? based on what paul is saying, it sounds like he's trying to rationalize why abortion is bad even in cases of rape, which seems more controversial i guess - aaron
[2012-08-28 11:32:49] - a: having watched the video in full now, I'm not sure how this qualifies as a OMG HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT type thing. Definitely a statement I don't agree with, but not anything particularly outrageous or offensive. - mig
[2012-08-28 11:03:48] - Even for those who do find it offensive, it isn't any more so than a standard anti-abortion in all cases argument. This doesn't even come close to the offensiveness of Akin's statements. - mig
[2012-08-28 10:58:55] - ok, so I watched the video on my phone. The full quote from the video: "the method of conception does not change the meaning of life". - mig
[2012-08-28 10:58:25] - g: Ah, yes, good catch. My fingers must be more used to typing "contraception" than "conception". -Paul
[2012-08-28 10:57:41] - g: Something along the lines of how "legitimate rape" usually doesn't result in pregnancy. I think he implied that the female body was able to basically prevent pregnancy somehow during a "legitimate rape". -Paul
[2012-08-28 10:57:30] - Paul: my understanding is he is saying he is against abortion even in cases of rape as rape is another form of conception. ~g
[2012-08-28 10:56:46] - paul: contraception? you mean conception... ~g
[2012-08-28 10:56:37] - a: But if he's explaining how he is against abortion even in cases of rape (which I think is true, and which I am guessing he was doing), then I have no problem with it and would even wonder how he is supposed to address his position without using terms like that. -Paul
[2012-08-28 10:55:21] - What did Akin say? ~g
[2012-08-28 10:55:10] - a: Well, that's why I prefaced it by saying I didn't watch the video and may have missed something. If Paul Ryan is joking about how rape is just a method of contraception, then that would certainly seem to be insensitive. -Paul
[2012-08-28 10:52:36] - "'method of conception' entirely accurate and basically the opposite of what got Akin into trouble" i'm surprised i have to tell you this, but both akin's and ryan's statements are disgustingly insensitive, and i already tend to err on the side of being less-PC than most people. i'd make you an analogy, but it is getting old. ~a
[2012-08-28 10:46:03] - I can't watch the video at work, but I'd like to know the context of the full statement. Though to constrast with Akin's unscientific statements, Ryan's statement is factually correct. Rape is of course an incredibly horrible thing, but it can lead to conception just like consensual sex does. - mig
[2012-08-28 10:39:32] - I didn't watch the video, so maybe I missed something, but I'm a little confused. Isn't calling rape a "method of conception" entirely accurate and basically the opposite of what got Akin into trouble? -Paul
[2012-08-28 10:36:04] - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-slansky-/paul-ryan-said-something-_b_1832377.html
[2012-08-28 10:18:26] - Aaron: Ah, sorry. I misunderstood. Either way, yeah, Dreamcast type graphics seems to be unfair to the Dreamcast. -Paul
[2012-08-28 10:15:16] - paul: i mean these graphics are "nes-era" like, these were graphics that were top-of-the-line back in 1992 when the NES was still the most common video game console... but yeah, 1992 is more like "genesis/SNES" era i guess. and yeah you're right i didn't mean to imply these could be rendered on an NES - aaron
[2012-08-28 10:08:12] - what is the galway/che connection? I understand why he might be a popular thing in Europe, but still the statue thing seems strange. - mig
[2012-08-28 09:58:14] - a: I can't remember what event it was. Honestly, everything after the Guiness and Jameson tours is a little fuzzy. -Paul
[2012-08-28 09:57:02] - for a certain event? ~a
[2012-08-28 09:52:46] - For the people who went to Ireland recently for a certain event: http://reason.com/24-7/2012/08/28/cuban-exile-willing-to-fund-lohan-statue Galway is looking to build a Che statue. -Paul
[2012-08-28 09:46:41] - aaron: Aw, I would say it's at least SNES level. Don't think the NES was capable of any kind of 3D-ish stuff like that. Hell, I feel like a lot of those look better than stuff like Starfox. -Paul
[2012-08-28 09:34:58] - they keep throwing around phrases like "dreamcast-era" and "sims 1" but that's giving it way too much credit. it's without exaggeration, NES-era art. http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/8/27/3270183/spyparty-visual-makeover-chris-hecker visually, it's close to 1992 PC games like "alone in the dark" or a few notches below quake - aaron
[2012-08-28 09:25:43] - paul: yes, "spy party!" wow if that art at all resembles the new in-game art that will be crazy! - aaron
[2012-08-27 16:46:54] - aaron: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/08/perfection-takes-time-spy-party-dev-talks-new-art-new-staff-and-getting-it-right/ Is this the game you were talking about before? -Paul
[2012-08-27 16:35:43] - Xpovos: It all depends. Usually, it's just some car ad or an Obama ad, which I have no interest in. But last night I saw an ad for what appeared to be a Starship Troopers video game. Looked kinda interesting. Also, I would be giddy if I saw a Ron Paul or Gary Johnson ad. -Paul
[2012-08-27 16:33:07] - Paul: I'm conceptually OK with targeted advertising, but in practice it tends to suck. That said, no one had better attempt to advertise to me via calling my cell phone, political survey or no. The video ads on the dashboard annoy me the most. I mean... look, I'm already paying for the service, why ads? And why ads that eat my bandwidth? -- Xpovos
[2012-08-27 16:14:58] - Xpovos: I understand the concerns of others, but I mostly don't have a problem with companies trying to learn more about me so they can offer me things I would be more interested in. Saves me time.
-Paul[2012-08-27 16:14:17] - Xpovos: I don't mind the political ads any more than any other ad on my dashboard (although those do irk me somewhat). Also, maybe it's just because of my career the past decade or so, but I am probably a lot less concerned about companies collecting information about me than most people. -Paul
[2012-08-27 15:53:51] - Comments? http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/microsofts-xbox-live-political-coverage-is-invasive-unwelcome-and-largely-p -- Xpovos
[2012-08-27 14:37:57] - Vinnie: I don't recall any songs by Owl City that I like. I'll have to look into them. -Paul
[2012-08-27 14:31:14] - mostly I just think the idea of putting those two artists together is funny, because both of them have songs I thought were super catchy. this is like their unholy spawn - vinnie
[2012-08-27 14:30:28] - paul: yeah it's not, I agree - vinnie
[2012-08-27 14:20:14] - g: Yeah, I think I have heard the song. Kinda like it, but it's no "Call Me Maybe"
-Paul[2012-08-27 14:10:12] - Paul: pretty sure it was it... somethign about a good time... ~g
[2012-08-27 14:09:21] - Vinnie: I know I've heard a pretty poppy(?) song that claimed to be a collaboration between CRJ and some other group, but I don't remember if it was Owl City or not. -Paul
[2012-08-27 14:02:30] - vinnie: when I hear it, I tend to not notice Carly Rae Jepsen in it... Mostly just Owl City, well I assume since it sounds like guys voices... ~g
[2012-08-27 13:43:30] - paul: apparently owl city and carly rae jepsen made a song together. I'm not sure if I will like it after the first few times (could see it getting annoying) but it sounds like one of those songs that will take over the world with its catchiness - vinnie
[2012-08-27 12:44:39] - i thought it was poetic. ~a
[2012-08-27 11:54:58] - xpovos: you made another funny? - mig
[2012-08-27 11:36:01] - Death comes for us all, Ugandan phone thief. But when it comes for you; it comes without dignity. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-27 11:34:05] - aaron: I think people for the most part don't realize how horrible the disease is. I think most people just see it as: man steals phone from sick man, he gets sick, LOL. - mig
[2012-08-27 11:17:18] - xpovos: ahhaha, yeah there were some people implying that it was like, "karma" or "justice" or whatever but man... that's a twisted take on justice... - aaron
[2012-08-27 11:00:46] - If the law of the jungle were just, we'd have no fear of the state of nature and hence no need for civilization. From that sense, his failure to uphold the social construct has a poetic justice to it, if not a particularly humane one. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-27 10:29:27] - I'm going to go out on a limb and say that stealing things from people in isolation wards in a hospital is probably not the best idea. I guess Darwinism at work? Crappy way to go though, death penalty for stealing a phone. -Daniel
[2012-08-27 10:04:13] - http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/weird-wide-web/man-steals-phone-ebola-patient-uganda-hospital-gets-ebola man steals phone from ebola patient, gets ebola - aaron
[2012-08-24 14:12:21] - "On the other hand, I find it amusing that a business ... would have to be bribed to serve more customers" I find it amusing that you find it amusing. ~a
[2012-08-24 11:52:50] - mig: Sure, and in the case of the 16 people, I can certainly understand not wanting to stay open for them. I have to imagine a playoff game is going to have significantly more individuals, though. -Paul
[2012-08-24 11:43:06] - paul: well it'd be a numbers game at that point. Keeping a restaurant open an hour later to serve only 4 more customers would not be cost effective, for example. - mig
[2012-08-24 11:36:24] - mig: On the other hand, I find it amusing that a business (albeit a money-losing, government operated one) would have to be bribed to serve more customers. Just seems backwards. I understand WHY it's backwards, but it is still amusing to me. -Paul
[2012-08-24 11:35:29] - mig: I don't have particularly strong feelings on either side. On the one hand, I would be glad to see the city not throwing away more taxpayer money to support a multi-million dollar franchise. -Paul
[2012-08-24 11:05:28] - It would be different if other local teams were getting the same accomodations gratis from the metro, but it looks like they aren't, so I don't see why the nationals should expect special treatment. - mig
[2012-08-24 11:03:37] - paul: as much as I dislike the dc metro as an organization, I would think it would be justified to tell the nationals to pay up if they want to keep the metro open late. - mig
[2012-08-24 10:56:22] - http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/43961/business.html gta 5 is looking good! - aaron
[2012-08-24 10:45:58] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/2012/08/23/b1377a08-ed69-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_story.html This is an interesting story that G and I were talking about last night. Basically, the Nationals want the metro to operate later to accommodate fans and the metro wants to be paid by the Nationals to do so. -Paul
[2012-08-23 17:29:39] - g: So the visits are frequent? Doesn't that make it more likely than anything that she'd die naturally shortly after a visit? -- Xpovos
[2012-08-23 17:19:33] - xpovos: he did go down to visit his mom a month ago or so too... after she was having a surgery... ~g
[2012-08-23 17:19:06] - daniel: im more curious than anything else... ~g
[2012-08-23 15:34:38] - see I am not even sure if I have issue with assisted suicide. I am hoping that my coworker misunderstood and that the guys mom didnt really pass away. ~g
[2012-08-23 15:24:12] - g: I'm with aaron, I would be "suspicious" that something possibly happened but I wouldn't be invested in probing or getting to the bottom or anything. I'd let it go and move on fairly easily. -Daniel
[2012-08-23 15:08:57] - g: Suspicious of what? Assisted suicide? Possibly. But probably not. I've heard many anecdotal stories of elderly folks holding on for 'one more visit' with loved ones before giving up the spirit. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-23 15:03:42] - g: yes, that's a super weird coincidence - aaron
[2012-08-23 14:48:04] - then you are out of work for a couple days you come back and here that Joe's mom passed away over the weekend... are you suspicious? ~g
[2012-08-23 14:47:29] - in a not so hypothetical but anonymized scenario... say you are talking to joe. Joe tells you he is going to visit his mom (in her 80s) who doesnt have a very good quality of life anymore and doesnt enjoy life anymore and is basically waiting to die...
[2012-08-23 14:18:03] - g: it's a quote from before he was a billionare. -title
[2012-08-23 14:14:28] - title: only 4000? ~g
[2012-08-23 12:57:27] - the world's youngest billionare Mark Zuckerberg -title
[2012-08-23 12:04:35] - title: Source? Sounds like some folks I have to deal with. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-23 08:47:42] - aaron: I saw a "cheezburger" graphic of the result. I'm glad to get more details on the story. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-23 08:30:07] - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/9491391/Elderly-woman-destroys-19th-century-fresco-with-DIY-restoration.html did anybody hear about this recent story of an old woman trying to restore a 19th century fresco? - aaron
[2012-08-22 10:00:53] - i'll be definitely getting one. i mean, why not? i'm sad there is a fee; but whatever, at least it's low. ~a
[2012-08-22 09:27:33] - that is awesome. you'd have to put a lot of trust in bitinstant, and i'm sure regulators are going to try to shut that shit down, but still i think i like it. ~a
[2012-08-21 16:41:51] - a: http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/08/bitcoin-company-says-debit-cards-coming-in-two-months/ - mig
[2012-08-21 13:22:54] - http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/kelloggs-turned-collegiate-logo-tasty-toaster-pastry-133421569--ncaaf.html that's pretty good detail on those logos if they are made from frosting. At least I hope that's frosting. - mig
[2012-08-21 11:05:05] - Eat their brains, gain their knowledge. This is not how it works in the business world. Kill a subordinate, gain their workload. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-20 12:28:55] - http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8278704/former-lsu-goalie-mo-isom-try-kicker-tigers-football-team-no-matter-happens-knows-not-end Good article about the lady trying out for the LSU football team. Pretty long though as a warning. -Daniel
[2012-08-20 09:36:09] - Human beings are the weak link in strong security. http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/all/ -- Xpovos
[2012-08-18 13:30:04] - oh my god genius!
[2012-08-18 05:04:46] - "Mitt Romeny and Paul Ryan" anagrams? "My Ultimate Ayn Rand Porn"
[2012-08-17 18:13:27] - anon: maybe you need to modify your user agent string. some mobile browsers have a checkbox for that. ~a
[2012-08-17 17:59:09] - aaron: "The content provide has not made this video available on mobile." huh. I didn't even know that was a thing.
[2012-08-17 17:36:09] - http://sports.yahoo.com/news/top-25-team-entrances-college-football-200000511--ncaaf.html Spoiler: VT is #5. Not bad. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-17 15:29:26] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xemLz_fR1Ac 11 years later, andrew w.k decides to release a new video "it's time to party" - aaron
[2012-08-16 14:04:37] - http://www.ksn.com/content/news/also/story/C-H-E-A-T-Scandal-rocks-scrabble-tournament/lMtbPe1e80-JH5W2pm63zw.cspx "Cheating scandal rocks scrabble tournament". I have a hard time saying the headline with a straight and serious face. - mig
[2012-08-16 12:24:58] - nina: that said, i liked snakes on a plane
but yeah, i can't really tell if the movie's good or not. it's got like a 44% on rotten tomatoes so i don't think it's some sleeper hit or anything, it's probably just OK - aaron[2012-08-16 12:23:29] - nina: it's getting mediocre reviews. if it's good, i think it's going to be good in an over-the-top silly way, kind of like "shoot em up" or "crank". if it's bad, it's probably either going to be bad because it's too self aware/cheesy (in an Epic Movie kind of way) or because it doesn't go far enough (arguably in a Snakes On A Plane kind of way) - aaron
[2012-08-16 11:47:26] - aaron: also, i love tugg. i think it's an awesome concept. -nina
[2012-08-16 11:47:07] - aaron: the premise seems really silly. do you think it'll be any good? -nina
[2012-08-16 10:21:15] - me, but i'll be out of town.
~a[2012-08-15 17:09:12] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_IndUbcxc anybody interested in seeing this movie in alexandria on september 4th? http://www.tugg.com/titles/iron-sky 40 seats left - aaron
[2012-08-15 16:55:28] - mig: feel free to vent, I wasnt by any means saying you shouldnt. I was just saying that liberatarian isnt a deal breaker
~g[2012-08-15 16:42:58] - g: yes, I know I'm being melodramatic. The article just rubbed me the wrong way and renewed some recent frustrations for me and I needed to vent a little. - mig
[2012-08-15 14:44:57] - also game parlor is having a TTR tourney! ~g
[2012-08-15 14:42:26] - aaron: Im surprised she didnt take it as an action item - clean up her keyboard... Or at least buy a new one. ~g
[2012-08-15 14:16:03] - http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/6983561 heart of the swarm beta .... soon(tm). - mig
[2012-08-15 13:56:30] - g: no, i think she was too nice to ever get mad at anybody, ever. she just handled all the typing, and then the few times when i absolutely had to type something in, i'd go to my workstation, remote into her desktop, edit the file, and go back to her desk - aaron
[2012-08-15 11:57:51] - a: 2 possible scenarios gals under 18 with kids (under 13) or... girl and guy like each other are both 17 parents catch them, parents both press charges.... ~g
[2012-08-15 11:56:58] - aaron: haha, you really are sometimes. Although I dont blame you for it. I think Paul sometimes wishes he were more like you. Did she get mad?~g
[2012-08-15 11:56:12] - mig: its not the end of the world, some of us gals dont know any better 2 out of 3 guys I have dated self identify as liberatarian... and one actually read Atlas Shrugged!! HORRORS - even worse he tried to get me to read it ~g
[2012-08-15 11:09:17] - luckily i'm an asshole and i just straight up told her, "we can pair at your workstation but i refuse to touch your keyboard", so everything worked out better than expected - aaron
[2012-08-15 11:08:06] - http://imgur.com/a/WhTtN/noscript i used to have a coworker with a super-gross keyboard, i refused to touch it. the whole thing was kind of greasy and there were visible chunks of food stuck to some of the keys. made pair programming awkward - aaron
[2012-08-15 09:36:16] - Xpovos: I think I saw that mentioned somewhere (maybe in the comments section), that some airlines just have a child areas. -Paul
[2012-08-14 22:49:48] - A man sitting next to a child is extremely unlikely to be an abuser. But the airline is taking a high risk in bringing on the child unsupervised, so I can't fault their thought process. But frankly, they'd be better off putting them in 'child' class, or something. Oh, and BCG & Training on their stewardesses, of course. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-14 22:47:49] - OK, I actually have most of a keyboard now, so I can expand. Women commit a minority of child sexual abuse. They commit a larger percentage of the abuse cases against post-pubescent children. Even then 40% sounds high. 20% is more accurate. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-14 17:56:44] - daniel: I actually don't own Atlas Shrugged, but I do own End the Fed, which may be just as bad. - mig
[2012-08-14 16:55:52] - I could comment more on the sexoffender items but I'm at a sex offender prevention conference, so my access is limited. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-14 16:52:40] - Daniel: Because the article appears to be associating Paul Ryan with libertarians, and is basically telling women not to date them. -Paul
[2012-08-14 16:52:18] - mig: Oh gotcha, do you have a dog eared copy of Atlas Shrugged laying around? If so I might need to gtfo. -Daniel
[2012-08-14 16:44:24] - daniel: I was mostly thinkinga about the whole dating allegory in the beginning of the article ("But that dog-eared copy of Atlas Shrugged tells you everything you need to know. This is the part where you collect your shoes and bag and GTFO.") - mig
[2012-08-14 16:40:16] - mig: ? I'm not sure I get how people disliking Ryan means you are fucked? -Daniel
[2012-08-14 15:16:39] - http://nymag.com/thecut/2012/08/paul-ryan-is-your-bad-libertarian-ex-boyfriend.html I hope this isn't a prevailing attitude ... otherwise I guess I'm totally fucked. - mig
[2012-08-14 14:50:08] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0dagCjg2SM&feature=g-u-u Heart of the Swarm protoss and terran expansion units in action. - mig
[2012-08-14 13:13:45] - http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2703 not that "evolution denial" is a particularly hot topic or anything, but i thought this comic drew a pretty funny analogy - aaron
[2012-08-14 13:11:25] - paul: that said, jetblue is still my airline of choice atm... i generally just go with the cheapest available, but i'll pay a little extra for jetblue - aaron
[2012-08-14 13:10:44] - paul: while intuitively i'm against qantas's prejudice in this case -- the more i think it through, as long as it doesn't inconvenience me, it seems like it would be nice to be seated far away from children. they're noisy and they poop a lot - aaron
[2012-08-14 12:58:50] - nina: can't argue much with that. They're pretty awful. - mig
[2012-08-14 12:57:32] - mig: the gobbler legs -nina
[2012-08-14 12:55:28] - Nina: Those are pretty ugly, but I think I've seen worse. Honestly, I tend to think a lot of the older NFL helmets are horrible looking (like the Patriots). -Paul
[2012-08-14 12:53:49] - nina: for the camo design or the gobbler legs? - mig
[2012-08-14 12:38:24] - i think VT just won the competition for ugliest helmet this year. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/virginia-techs-new-football-helmets/2012/08/13/28a50b60-e549-11e1-936a-b801f1abab19_blog.html -nina
[2012-08-14 12:18:01] - a: Also, I was going to address that link to Dee, but I don't think she checks the message board anymore. -Paul
[2012-08-14 12:17:35] - a: Yeah, I mostly glossed over the statistics because (a) Most of the are somewhat meaningless considering the gender discrepancy in terms of who cares for kids and (b) I'm not sure if it matters in the larger context of whether it's ok to discriminate against men just because they are more likely to commit a crime. -Paul
[2012-08-14 12:02:06] - "the study below found that roughly 30 percent of perpetrators of sexual assault of minors were female. In the category ages up to 18, the percentage went to 40 percent." ummm, i thought minors were "up to 18". i don't get it. ~a
[2012-08-14 11:57:31] - dee would approve. ~a
[2012-08-14 10:11:08] - http://jonathanturley.org/2012/08/14/qantas-defends-policy-to-bar-males-from-sitting-next-to-unaccompanied-minors/ Ignoring the editorializing, I thought the airline policy of forcing men to switch seats when they are seated next to an unaccompanied child was interesting. -Paul
[2012-08-14 10:10:01] - Nina: Nope. Didn't look like my kind of movie. -Paul
[2012-08-14 10:07:22] - just heard on the radio on my way over to work: NFL says that replacement refs will probably still be around for the first couple of regular season games. god help us all. - mig
[2012-08-14 08:49:02] - has anyone seen 50/50? Pierce and I watched it last night and bawled our eyes out. -nina
[2012-08-13 17:28:36] - Vinnie: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the majority of people who voted for her in the general election didn't know she was Indian (or raised as a Sikh), but at the same time, I have to imagine lots of the Republican party insiders knew when she won the primary. -Paul
[2012-08-13 16:56:35] - I would wager that many don't know Nikki Haley is Indian; I certainly didn't for a while. iirc she looks somewhat fair-skinned and her husband is white. also, I like my mboard quote that has been dredged up today though I don't know what it refers to - vinnie
[2012-08-13 15:32:47] - Yeah, the Nikki Haley comment might've been mine. I'm a little surprised it hasn't been brought up yet that it's possible most people in South Carolina who voted for her didn't know she was Indian. -Paul
[2012-08-13 15:31:41] - Nina: Although I will note that if you thought my evidence was anecdotal... then your evidence of "i worked in politics and closely with both democrats and republicans. and, i know what i saw" is probably even more so. -Paul
[2012-08-13 15:30:52] - nina: that was paul, I think. I had no idea who nikki haley was until today, honestly. - mig
[2012-08-13 15:30:19] - paul: if the RNC put Colin Powell as their candidate, i would change my beliefs about the RNC. -nina
[2012-08-13 15:29:44] - mig: you thought nikki haley was white based on her name.
[2012-08-13 15:27:49] - i think what's questionable? - mig
[2012-08-13 15:27:42] - Nina: Damn, I should've led off with that question then.
-Paul[2012-08-13 15:27:05] - Nina: And if the GOP nominates a black man as their candidate in the future, will they get any credit from you? Or will you think it will just be to make the party look like they're putting people of color in power? -Paul
[2012-08-13 15:25:13] - paul: probably not, only because i worked in politics and closely with both democrats and republicans. and, i know what i saw.
-nina[2012-08-13 15:24:31] - aaron: Nice! Looks good there, I wonder how long the turns take and if you die early if its entertaining still to watch it unfold. -Daniel
[2012-08-13 15:23:57] - Nina: Well, I guess to save me some time, is there any evidence I could give which would change your mind?
-Paul[2012-08-13 15:22:04] - paul: not quite the same given the presidential candidate was a black man! -nina
[2012-08-13 15:21:40] - Nina: That's actually the same count I came up with on this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_vice_presidential_candidate,_2008 -Paul
[2012-08-13 15:21:25] - i don't think the RNC would have ever put Michael Steele as chairman if Obama hadn't been elected. -nina
[2012-08-13 15:20:52] - paul: yes, you can come up with lots of anecdotal evidence. but, i still think overall, democrats are better than republicans. -nina
[2012-08-13 15:19:57] - paul: i think michael steele is a perfect example of a person of color being put in a position of power to make the party look like they're putting people of color in power. -nina
[2012-08-13 15:18:49] - Nina: Michelle Bachmann won the Iowa straw poll. Sarah Palin was a VP candidate. There are more female republican governors than female democratic governors. -Paul
[2012-08-13 15:17:25] - paul: i see two women and one person of color (and miguel thinks that's questionable) in this list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_vice_presidential_candidates,_2012 -nina
[2012-08-13 15:16:38] - Nina: You pointed out yourself that South Carolina, a state about as closely associated with the Confederacy as any other, elected a female minority governor. Michael Steele was the head of the RNC until a few years ago. Herman Cain was briefly a darling of the (supposedly racist) tea party... -Paul
[2012-08-13 15:14:28] - Nina: I don't disagree that Southerners have been racist, or that Republicans have traditionally been the the party of old white people or stuff like that, I just wonder if stuff like: "in general there aren't many woman/minority leaders in the RNC" and "one of the few people of color contenders for any kind of leadership in the RNC" are accurate anymore. -Paul
[2012-08-13 15:12:17] - nina: from my perspective I feel like democrats are losing most churches especially the gung ho ones... ~g
[2012-08-13 15:10:35] - g: the churches role in politics is getting strange these days. historically, black churches have been a key point of organizing the Democrats since the 1960s. But, with socially conservative issues rising, i think the Democrats can't count on the black churches as much. -nina
[2012-08-13 15:08:37] - D*MN THOSE GERMANS TOOK OVER THE USA! ~g
[2012-08-13 15:07:03] - I was thinking that your statement was missing a key element religiousness.. I think you are more likely to find very christian minorities to be republican than less religious minorities. Hehe I bet people have a field day with that qualification. ~g
[2012-08-13 15:06:51] - aaron: the history as i see it. Lincoln (R) freed the blacks. Southerns were mad, so turned Democratic. Kennedy (D) fought for civil rights. Southern Democrats got mad, so turned Republican. -nina
[2012-08-13 15:05:43] - aaron: southern white democrats were known as Dixiecrats. Those were the guys who were fighting to maintain segregation and keep the south racist. When the democratic party started actually fighting for civil rights, a lot of those southern white democrats turned republican. -nina
[2012-08-13 15:03:52] - http://imgur.com/a/pYrvr/noscript zombicide playthrough - aaron
[2012-08-13 14:59:30] - g: but i don't totally know what's up in those states, looking at more statistics it looks like minorities are usually democrat... so maybe it's just that they don't have as many white democrats down there or something - aaron
[2012-08-13 14:58:29] - g: yeah i was mostly trying to poke at how states with african ancestry also tend to vote republican, in my mind i thought it was a faulty assumption that non-whites would be more likely democrat - aaron
[2012-08-13 14:47:09] - ah althought the stat I looked up counts hispanic as white... w/o hispanics GA = 55.5% and AL = 66.8% ~g
[2012-08-13 14:44:31] - aaron: are you serious or sarcastic? I cant tell... Looking up the population GA is 63% white, and AL is 70% white... ~g
[2012-08-13 14:26:35] - nina: ahh that would explain why places like georgia and alabama overwhelmingly vote republican!! they must have more white people - aaron
[2012-08-13 14:24:13] - Nina: Maybe. All I'm saying is that it's easier to have minorities in leadership positions when you have around twice as many to choose from (if not more) than the other side. -Paul
[2012-08-13 14:19:56] - paul: and part of the reason the pool is larger is because democratic policies tend to favor the rights of women and minorities. -nina
[2012-08-13 14:02:49] - Did anyone else hear about the Guardians of the Galaxy Marvel movie being announced? I was surprised they decided to go with a relatively obscure part of the Marvel Universe though it seems like it could be loosely tied with The Avengers. - mig
[2012-08-13 13:49:56] - Nina: It's also worth pointing out that there are a lot more women and minorities who are democrats, so they probably have a larger pool of people to draw from. -Paul
[2012-08-13 13:48:55] - Nina: I don't know, I always hear about how Republicans are a bunch of old white men, and they certainly seem to be the majority, but old white men also seem to be the majority for the Democratic party. -Paul
[2012-08-13 13:45:30] - Nina: I mean, it's somewhat hard to compare with the Democrats, since there was no presidential primary for them this time around and, on the flip side, Republicans don't really have cabinet positions to fill... -Paul
[2012-08-13 13:44:39] - Nina: "one of the few people of color contenders for any kind of leadership in the RNC for the past several years". Not sure how far back you want to go, but: Micheal Steele, Herman Cain, Nikki Haley, Condi Rice, Colin Powell? -Paul
[2012-08-13 13:38:59] - g: He is one of the few politicians (on either side) who seems to somewhat realize the extent of our fiscal problems and appears to be trying to do something about it, although his plan (despite being labeled as extreme) is still woefully inadequate in my opinion. -Paul
[2012-08-13 13:38:32] - and is a drug warrior. If he really wanted to court libertarians he'd have gone with one of the Dr. Pauls, or possibly Chris Christie. - mig
[2012-08-13 13:38:19] - g: Depends on who you ask. I would say no, based on his voting history and what I've heard about his socially conservative leanings. -Paul
[2012-08-13 13:37:17] - g: not really. The main claim to his fame is a budget plan that puts him as a "deficit hawk" (which IMO is a bit of an exaggeration). Aside from that, there's not much to like from a libertarian perspective. He's terrible on civil liberties, supported TARP and other bailouts
[2012-08-13 13:30:27] - soo, not to show how much I dont know but is Paul Ryan a borderline liberatarian pick? I assume he is part of the RNC, but based on Nina's comment it sounds like he is of the Ron Paul mentality... ~g
[2012-08-13 13:29:59] - g: yeah, he wasn't a serious contender for this round. but, he was one of the few people of color contenders for any kind of leadership in the RNC for the past several years. -nina
[2012-08-13 13:27:24] - I thought Jindal removed himself from consideration after a horrible speech a couple years back... I remember hearing he might be on the ticket this time around when Obama was first elected. ~g
[2012-08-13 13:11:29] - Nina: Hmmm, ok. I had just assumed a similar thing but I was curious how accurate the assumption was. I was a little surprised by the governor thing. -Paul
[2012-08-13 13:04:30] - mig: nikki haley was making national headlines several years ago when she was running for gov of SC. who would've thought a state that still had the confederate flag hanging from their capital building would have voted a brown female into office? Lots of conservatives were marketing her as the new face of the Republicans -nina
[2012-08-13 13:01:54] - i'm not saying that's true universally, i'm just saying in general, there are more women/minorities in power in the DNC than in the RNC -nina
[2012-08-13 13:01:32] - paul: i guess when i was referring to leader, it was mainly to people who hold high level political offices, both elected and appointed. and, i wasn't looking at it from a numbers game, but from a personal assessment of political influence. RNC in general seems to appoint minorities/women as figureheads, as opposed to people with real influence. -nina
[2012-08-13 13:00:58] - nina: I had forgotten about Jindal. That probably would have been an ok choice, though he kind of fell off the spotlight after that SOTU rebuttal speech a couple of years ago. Honestly I don't know much about Haley other that she is the govenor of SC and I only found out about that 10 minutes ago. - mig
[2012-08-13 12:43:03] - Nina: Although it does look like there are more minorities and women represented in the "leadership" positions for the House and Senate. -Paul
[2012-08-13 12:38:22] - Nina: Picking out who is a minority is a lot tougher just going by looks and names (wouldn't have thought Nikki Haley was a minority based on her photo or name), but I only noticed one obvious minority democratic governor. -Paul
[2012-08-13 12:36:54] - nina: What qualifies as a leader? I was curious about the balance of minorites/women between the RNC and DNC and so I looked through the wikipedia list of governors and it looks like there are more female republican governors than democrats. -Paul
[2012-08-13 12:06:01] - mig: i was thinking nikki haley or bobby jindal. but, in general there aren't many woman/minority leaders in the RNC -nina
[2012-08-13 11:45:36] - nina: was there anyone other than Marco Rubio who fit the woman/minoirty bill that would have made sense? - mig
[2012-08-13 11:41:32] - Given the political muscle that politicians with the name "Paul" have shown recently, I guess it makes sense that he would pick one as his VP.
-Paul[2012-08-13 11:40:49] - Nina: I thought he would go with a minority, and likely one who wasn't born to a wealthy family. I hadn't thought about the Ayn Rand factor at all (other than it being a possible negative to Ryan). That's an interesting thought. -Paul
[2012-08-13 11:31:42] - i'm kinda surprised by Romney's VP pick. I really thought he'd go with a woman or minority. But given the political muscle the Ron Paul/Ayn Randites flexed this year, it's not totally surprising that he went in that direction. -nina
[2012-08-13 10:07:36] - daniel: i'm free this friday and saturday, or any night this week pretty much - aaron
[2012-08-13 10:02:30] - paul: To me, I get much amusement because it just goes to highlight the multitudes of contradictions that is Mitt Romney. Celebrates his state health care law, promises to repeal the national law that was based on his law. Blasts Obama for messing with Medicare, picks a VP candidate that wants to mess with medicare. - mig
[2012-08-13 09:41:50] - aaron: Well my copy showed up this weekend. We should try to figure out a time to play. -Daniel
[2012-08-13 09:27:13] - daniel: no, i didn't get zombicide! i wanted to wait to see if it was fun to play before i picked up a copy. i've played about four or five coop games but I've only really loved about two -- even if they're themed well, they can kind of sink or swim based on how good their rules are - aaron
[2012-08-13 09:14:23] - Any thoughts about the Paul Ryan VP pick? I was surprised by it's relative boldness, but I'm not sure it's going to help Romney much. -Paul
[2012-08-11 10:32:22] - nina: Do you know if Pierce wants to be invited to the pick'em too? -Paul
[2012-08-10 18:13:14] - nina: a majority of the people i've bumped into on wikipedia have been male or unspecified gender. but nine to one surprises me. how do they know this? ~a
[2012-08-10 15:50:15] - aaron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCiY1y3uJ3o call me maybe chatroulette version. watch this when you get home. (n really sfw) -amy
[2012-08-10 15:37:24] - a: i also didn't notice the anagram. that's creepy. -nina
[2012-08-10 15:37:00] - a: maybe it's classy because it had a 9/10 chance of being written by a male. http://mashable.com/2012/08/08/wikipedia-gender-graphic/ -nina
[2012-08-10 15:35:51] - a: I didn't realize it. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-10 15:31:33] - N-word . . . stay classy wikipedia. ~a
[2012-08-10 15:30:08] - am i the only person that didn't realize that the N word and "ginger" are anagrams of each-other? ~a
[2012-08-10 15:28:40] - a: I suppose it's fair enough that you find my lack of jaywalking annoying, but my point wasn't really whether you think it's annoying, it was whether or not running red lights by that same justification is ok. -Paul
[2012-08-10 15:24:16] - nina: Hmmm, maybe. I've found that people do a fine job walking around me, even in NYC. -Paul
[2012-08-10 15:24:11] - a: I'll grant there are probably situations where it won't be speeding and a run/slam decision needs to be made. I imagine the decision would not be binary, but based on an incredibly complicated algorithm, but I'd wager it'd lean towards running the red, as that's probably the safer option in those circumstances. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-10 15:24:00] - a: i know that some cars have sensors to automatically turn on the wipers when it rains. and, my car beeps at me whenever the outside temperature goes below 32 degrees, and it flashes a snowflake sign at me. so, i could it see changing patterns with those inputs. -nina
[2012-08-10 15:21:19] - nina: i don't know. my guess is yes, but that's just a guess. i'm not sure how it would get that information. ~a
[2012-08-10 15:19:34] - a: does the self driving car factor in road conditions? because i know i have a very different reaction to yellow lights when the roads are dry vs. wet. -nina
[2012-08-10 15:16:30] - for example if someone cuts you off, or when there are multiple lights together, or when the lights are of odd-nontypical-design. ~a
[2012-08-10 15:15:45] - xpovos: yeah i was thinking that too. in general, you're right. but i think there are probably (unlikely and uncommon) situations where you're not speeding, but you'd still be forced to be "in the box" during a red. ~a
[2012-08-10 15:14:10] - nina: I think the self-driving car wouldn't be speeding and wouldn't need to run the red or brake hard. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-10 15:11:43] - "What's annoying? Me not jaywalking?" yes. ~a
[2012-08-10 15:10:49] - based on my understanding from that class my answer is: i'm not sure. it probably would break hard if it thought it was about to crash, but it's less likely to break hard if it thought it was likely to cause a crash, and maybe escape from breaking a driving law. i actually think the google self driving car is a better driver than many of the idiots on the road. ~a
[2012-08-10 15:09:31] - nina: (not sure if i told you this or not) i actually took udacity's cs373 that was taught by the creator of the google self driving car. ~a
[2012-08-10 15:09:17] - paul: i'd say you not jaywalking in busier cities like NYC or any place where there is high pedestrian foot traffic is definitely more dangerous. -nina
[2012-08-10 15:01:19] - a: What's annoying? Me not jaywalking? I don't see at all how that is less safe. -Paul
[2012-08-10 15:00:57] - a: do you think the google self driving car would go through a red light? -nina
[2012-08-10 14:59:27] - "It's funny" i agree with stephen. it's annoying! analogy: slamming on the breaks at a yellow light because you might not escape the intersection before it turns red actually makes things less safe. ~a
[2012-08-10 14:53:27] - Nina: Screw it, I went ahead and set up the pick'em now. You should have an invite. Let me know if you have any questions. -Paul
[2012-08-10 14:45:48] - aaron: You got zombicide too right? Did you get your tracking number? I got mine! Looking forward to playing it. Hopefully its good since its the first thing I've done on kickstarter and the first game I've bought in awhile without reading reviews and stuff. -Daniel
[2012-08-10 14:45:34] - Nina: Planning on it. I tried setting it up a few weeks ago but yahoo didn't have it for 2012 yet. I might check again later today, but the past week or so has been crazily busy. -Paul
[2012-08-10 14:43:12] - I'm with Paul on the reason she was there was to stop jaywalking specifically not just randomly patrolling. She was doing only because she was told too, I don't think she personally cares much about it. It was only because it was becoming a problem spot. -Daniel
[2012-08-10 14:37:55] - paul: are you doing pick 'em this year? -nina
[2012-08-10 14:37:35] - ps - hi message board. i'm bored at work. -nina
[2012-08-10 14:37:20] - jaywalking is highly enforced in hawaii. they have the highest pedestrian death rates in the country. -nina
[2012-08-10 14:32:26] - a: It's funny, because I feel like I'm on the other side of jaywalking debates more often than one might think considering how relatively inconsequential it is. I remember Stephen seemingly being mad at me for not jaywalking in DC and then relating it to running a red light. -Paul
[2012-08-10 14:30:50] - a: But she wasn't patrolling (as I remember it), she was just waiting at the bus stop to make sure people didn't jaywalk. Again, I could be wrong, but I thought that was part of the story. -Paul
[2012-08-10 14:28:42] - "I thought that's specifically why she was there" is that what she said? "why else would she be hanging out near a bus stop?" seriously i hope you can think of a dozen reasons why a cop would be patrolling. ~a
[2012-08-10 14:27:41] - a: And I understand what you are saying about not wanting to write tickets (and possibly even writing "disobeying a police officer" tickets when necessary), but that doesn't change that she was enforcing the law about jaywalking. -Paul
[2012-08-10 14:26:38] - a: I thought that's specifically why she was there. I could be wrong, but why else would she be hanging out near a bus stop? -Paul
[2012-08-10 14:25:43] - http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/06/fear-of-terror-makes-people-stupid.html You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist. -Paul
[2012-08-10 14:25:42] - xpovos: yeah it's a pretty serious breech, but in terms of overall impact I'm not terribly worried. - mig
[2012-08-10 14:23:11] - I'll post more on the Diablo thread, but this is big news in itself. http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/securityupdate.html -- Xpovos
[2012-08-10 14:15:56] - it's relevant (maybe you think it's a distinction without a difference): 1. she didn't want to write the ticket; the person (imo) forced her hand. 2. she's only done this once and 3. it seemed like a special crazy weird edge case. ~a
[2012-08-10 14:13:04] - i guess i didn't hear that part of the story. ~a
[2012-08-10 14:04:50] - a: As I understood it, she was sent there to prevent people from jaywalking because there had been some accidents that had happened as a result of jaywalking. Why did you think she was there? -Paul
[2012-08-10 14:03:50] - aaron: hahaha nice. ~a
[2012-08-10 14:02:00] - xpovos: hmm yeah, it's got a small spoiler, but it won't really be funny if you haven't seen the movie anyways since the humor is 100% referential. don't click - aaron
[2012-08-10 14:01:28] - paul: "Sure. She was sent there specifically to stop people from jaywalking, right?" i doubt it. did you understand otherwise? ~a
[2012-08-10 13:58:21] - Xpovos: It contains a small spoiler for a non critical element of the movie (imo). -Daniel
[2012-08-10 13:57:15] - mig: I agree, it's a terrible ruling and should be thrown out, but the legal ground covered by this case was potentially much more interesting. -- Xpovos
[2012-08-10 13:50:23] - xpovos: true, but these are public employees, and this is sort of a classic example of political retaliation which is normally frowned upon by courts. Also the original ruling used a very absurd argument as to why the facebook like didn't constitute speech, so I would fully expect an appeals court to overturn it. - mig
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