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[2021-08-25 16:22:54] - they didn't want to get also sued for child pornography? i guess he was part of a photo-shoot where he (and his family) weren't paid? they aren't very explicit about that part. ~a
[2021-08-25 15:44:47] - Paul: He seems unlikely to win that case but I suppose one never knows. Porn is a slippery category sometimes but under the "I know it when I see it" type test I don't think the nirvana cover qualifies in my head. Provacative? Sure. Arouse? No. -Daniel
[2021-08-25 15:37:49] - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/baby-on-cover-of-nevermind-sues-nirvana-alleging-child-pornography-.html I think the best part of this story is that CNBC decided to actively crop the picture in the news article. -Paul
[2021-08-25 15:21:15] - a: sure you should do as your told. but that's hard to do when what you are being told isn't very reliable. - mig
[2021-08-25 14:57:19] - mig: everybody has had warnings for literal decades about being in this dangerous war-zone. embassy situations at a time of war aren't what you think and people who ignore travel advisories do so at their own peril. when i went into afghanistan, i always did as i was told. ~a
[2021-08-25 14:52:46] - https://twitter.com/RichardEngel/status/1430249556655083522 get out now or you are fucked. lol jk nm. - mig
[2021-08-24 16:20:13] - yeah, they're not super common. i'm glad you don't have them. asking someone to dismount to cross a roadway is pretty lame. ~a
[2021-08-24 16:16:44] - a: I have not seen those signs here. -Daniel
[2021-08-24 15:02:06] - i noticed a lot of "[people on bikes] dismount to cross roadway" signs in massachusetts in july. you know . . . because it's safer. i'm not sure if every state has signs like this, but i don't ever see them in our area. does texas have these signs? this link i found on twitter just now really hit home for me. everybody dismounting for safety does seem to follow the logic. ~a
[2021-08-24 14:49:08] - a: thats gross. -Daniel
[2021-08-24 14:25:59] - paul: "government's suck" could be correct grammar: it could just be a weird metaphor for taxes. its the "suck" that the government has on you. have you paid your government's suck yet this month? ~a
[2021-08-24 13:30:17] - a: Ugh, and so does my spelling / grammar. -Paul
[2021-08-24 13:30:04] - a: Government's suck, eh?
-Paul[2021-08-23 20:20:58] - i love this tweet on that subject. i try to see things from the pedestrians eyes and it always seems ridiculous the decisions our society seems to make. ~a
[2021-08-23 16:36:35] - arlington to pedestrians: beg for us. i mean, part of me is like: i get it this was just a nice thing to have during covid. but the other part of me is like: hey, it was better this way, can we keep it forever? ~a
[2021-08-19 22:45:58] - a: yes, i agree this appears to be a problem more suited for the markets to solve. - mig
[2021-08-19 19:50:59] - mig: its even crazier when you hear about people in a dense city talk about their three vehicles. why exactly are we all (via mandatory minimums and/or free street storage) paying for you to store your three vehicles? ~a
[2021-08-19 18:57:56] - mig: parking minimums is analogous to a regressive "tax" of sorts. where you redistribute wealth from the people who don't have cars to the people who do. ~a
[2021-08-19 18:38:46] - mig: the free market here can pretty easily decide how much parking to create, right? in some cities this is how its done, and congestion is not a larger problem in these cities, its a smaller problem. ~a
[2021-08-19 18:37:05] - mig: the reason i say the rule makers are idiots, is they initially did it to decrease traffic congestion, and the unintended side-effect was the opposite of their intent: increased traffic congestion. ~a
[2021-08-19 18:36:10] - mig: well, first-off, the rule makers are idiots. imagine a certain portion of the population that doesn't have a car, (or even better, is on the fence about getting or keeping a car). the world is pretty badly harmed by forcing providers to provide a (certain amount of) parking spots to * these * people. ~a
[2021-08-19 18:34:42] - a: but that's what the rule makers are worried about right? That someone buys/rents a property and has nowhere to park their vehicle? - mig
[2021-08-19 18:33:24] - mig: they do detrimental harm to traffic congestion and increase air pollution, so i think the regulations matter. ~a
[2021-08-19 18:32:41] - mig: i can't follow, you're against the minimums or for them? or you think they don't matter? you personally wouldn't consider renting an apartment that didn't have its own parking: but that's literally not what mandatory minimums are. its not about "no parking", its about "by law they're not allowed to have the amount of parking that they want". it must be above a certain amount, and some cities don't have these rules. ~a
[2021-08-19 18:28:26] - a: well my first question. Honestly, how necessary are these rules. There's already (in my mind) a powerful market incentive for housing builders to provide parking on their properties. I personally wouldn't consider renting an apt that didn't have its own parking. - mig
[2021-08-19 17:46:21] - paul/mig: you're libertarians! what do you think about parking minimums?! parking minimimus are, in some cities (not all of them!), you are required to build a certain size off-street parking garages/spots (per unit) when you build an apartment/condo/house/etc. the rules increase congestion and pollution, but also they're burdensome regulations! they take away the freedom/option to provide or sell housing with a different amount parking. ~a
[2021-08-19 14:14:40] - paul/daniel: huh. i noticed that one of the canadian etfs did unexpectedly "well" today compared to similar etfs, but then after investigating some, it's because the canadian dollar did -1% (compared to other major currencies. other major currencies are relatively flat). any idea why a currency would go down a whole percent in just one day? ~a
[2021-08-19 13:38:05] - mig: I didn't say who could have known. "I don't know who / what should have predicted the gov imploding like this or gives odds but either it wasn't given enough weight as a credible outcome or wasn't planned for sufficiently as an outcome." So yeah I think someone should have done better? However I also don't think its crazy that they might have thought it would last two months and not like two weeks. -Daniel
[2021-08-19 12:09:03] - daniel: re - "who could have known the government would collapse?" I just don't find that an acceptable response from the us gov. We've been there for 20 fucking years. If the "top men" trying to manage this situation could not see this coming, that is an incredibly massive fuck up on their end, and I don't see why there shouldn't be mass firings/resignations once this situation is over. - mig
[2021-08-18 21:30:37] - a: Sure but is the or else the gov implodes? I think there is room to read "instability" and not assume Taliban take over within a month. -Daniel
[2021-08-18 21:14:01] - daniel: "I don't know who / what should have predicted the gov imploding like this" did you see the first wsj article? this one. "the president's top generals...urged Mr. Biden to keep a force of about 2,500 troops" so, to answer your question: the president's top generals? ~a
[2021-08-18 20:35:37] - That said I'm not entirely sure what planning for immediate gov implosion would have looked like. If the Afghan president is like nah we're cool then straight bolts I'm not sure how we should have accounted for that. -Daniel
[2021-08-18 20:34:29] - I don't know who / what should have predicted the gov imploding like this or gives odds but either it wasn't given enough weight as a credible outcome or wasn't planned for sufficiently as an outcome. -Daniel
[2021-08-18 20:32:48] - Ah so the Americans left are non gov affiliated ones. That does seem more tricky but I would definitely agree they should be helped (rescued?). I think they fall into the category though of if you thought the gov was going to still be there this week then why would you have evacuated them already camp. -Daniel
[2021-08-18 20:23:30] - apparently its "thousands" of americans still in afghanistan. major yikes. - mig
[2021-08-18 20:12:04] - a: "what would you have done differently?" I think it's been mentioned before (still out of town so not fully caught up with everything), but it's hard to believe we didn't have a better plan in place for evacuating allies and whatnot. Sure, everything collapsed more quickly than expected (which is damning in and of itself), but that doesn't seem like the best excuse. -Paul
[2021-08-18 20:09:03] - a: "that wasn't the total cost" Absolutely, not to mention the loss of life on the Afghanistan side as well. -Paul
[2021-08-18 20:08:27] - daniel: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-americans-left-behind-11629211589 yes, apparently there are americans stuck in kabul right now. - mig
[2021-08-18 20:00:06] - Are there americans that didn't get out safely? I would agree that changes things if so. I think the concept of "refugees" is tricky because the original theory I presume was that they were just staying in charge so no refugees. If they start evac'ing 'refugees' at the onset then its not an american withdrawal but collapse of the gov. Which is what happened but I imagine wasn't the plan. -Daniel
[2021-08-18 19:23:39] - The original agreement had already been ignored (withdrawal was supposed to be complete by May 1). But yes, postponing the withdrawal, while it would be painful to have troops in danger for a few more months, if that meant we would have been in a better position to make sure refugees and americans got out safely, I would have much preferred that. - mig
[2021-08-18 19:07:32] - mig: gotcha, ok. that makes sense to me. you suggest that biden should have ignored the drawdown agreement between the taliban and the united states? (i'm not questioning you, just confirming) daniel, any thoughts? ~a
[2021-08-18 19:00:22] - https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-wanted-to-leave-afghanistan-he-knew-the-risks-11629214842 "The president’s top generals, including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley, urged Mr. Biden to keep a force of about 2,500 troops, the size he inherited, while seeking a peace agreement between warring Afghan factions, to help maintain stability." - mig
[2021-08-18 17:13:35] - mig: "not by the administration, it looks like" what makes you think this? ...biden made this decision with like a dozen top tier generals with military strategy on the mind... ~a
[2021-08-18 16:55:19] - a: but not by the administration, it looks like. And that's the part that matters, isn't it? - mig
[2021-08-18 16:49:27] - mig: doesn't your comment imply it was considered? at least by some in the government? ~a
[2021-08-18 16:46:52] - a: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/cia-warned-rapid-afghanistan-collapse-so-why-did-u-s-n1277026?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma disclaimer: everyone has incentive to point fingers for blame shifting at this point. still.- mig
[2021-08-18 14:28:21] - I think we have corruption in the US but that it is fought against and hasn't reach the tipping point of undermining belief in the system completely but if we do get to that point I think it will be bad. Its part of why Trump was bad in my head (yes tangent I know) because I think he moved us closer to that point more so than others imo. -Daniel
[2021-08-18 14:26:52] - Corruption I think is such an insidious problem for a country. Once it gets to a point where its ubiquitous / expected its so hard to overcome because it undermines the idea of what "Afghanistan" is. So if you think that "Afghanistan" isn't worth much then why bother trying to fix / improve / fight for it. -Daniel
[2021-08-18 14:18:14] - Which is hard given all of the costs that went into it (blood / treasure / time) - Daniel
[2021-08-18 14:17:41] - I don't think its going to be good for a lot of people there but I'm also not sure that if we can't make any permanent progress in 20 years whether we would be able to ever? -Daniel
[2021-08-18 14:15:55] - If we start evac'ing to start then it goes from we are withdrawing and leaving to the gov to the gov is withdrawing with the US (which seems to have happened but wasn't the idea) -Daniel
[2021-08-18 14:15:10] - Afghanistan is such a hard problem. I definitely don't any answers. I don't think the withdrawal went well? (what does well even mean here?) but I'm not sure what we should have done differently? Gone slowly? I've seen the idea that we should have evac'ed more people ahead of time but I don't think that makes entire sense either? The idea was that we were withdrawing but leaving country to the gov. -Daniel
[2021-08-18 14:06:25] - mig: what makes you think it wasn't? i'm not a military strategist, but love him or hate him, biden made this decision with like a dozen top tier generals with military strategy on the mind. i'm willing to bet a bunch of money, he did this with their thumbs up. ~a
[2021-08-18 14:04:10] - a: what makes you think it was? - mig
[2021-08-18 13:51:56] - its disingenuous that these same talking points are coming from members of congress that voted (in july!) to make it prohibitively difficult for afghan translators/etc to leave any earlier (hr 3985: allies act). is there a reasonable explanation for this inconsistency? ~a
[2021-08-18 13:48:25] - mig: it wasn't considered? ~a
[2021-08-18 13:48:09] - a: that scenario should have been at least considered, shouldn't it? It was known at least as a possibility. Hindsight is 20/20 but there should have been at least some preparation for a worst case scenario. - mig
[2021-08-18 13:43:46] - mig: i think you have a bit of foresight don't you? evac-ing afghans that helped in the military occupation would be cool, and there was a plan: but it was 100% predicated on the ANA giving up less quickly/easily. the military strategists who formulated and executed on this plan got it all wrong, but that's really all with foresight that you and i know this. ~a
[2021-08-18 13:41:32] - a: had a plan to withdraw? There didn't seem to be one. Not evac-ing americans and afghan refugees sooner is unbelievable negligence. - mig
[2021-08-18 13:09:14] - paul: i had a friend in the infantry that was shot and killed by taliban fighters in 2011. you mention the 20 years and trillions of dollars, but that wasn't the total cost. ~a
[2021-08-18 13:09:12] - paul: what would you have done differently? ~a
[2021-08-18 12:38:45] - paul: and that speech too. I'm not sure I've seen a non-trump speech so poorly received that universally. A shame too, since it's probably overshadowing that the withdrawal was the right thing to do. - mig
[2021-08-18 06:27:20] - Speaking of which.... what a mess, huh? 20 years and trillions of dollars and it all falls apart mindbogglingly fast. Even as somebody who supported withdrawal and thought it should have happened a long time ago... that seemed like it was bungled in the worst way. -Paul
[2021-08-18 00:22:01] - paul: I’ll second geopolitical unrest as well. - mig
[2021-08-17 03:19:36] - a: My guess is that it is mostly geopolitical unrest, and when that happens, the high-flying "growth" stocks take it on the chin harder. -Paul
[2021-08-16 14:05:38] - what's up with the stock market? the market is "only" down 1/2%, but i see a bunch of things on the stock market challenge -4% today. i assume its geopolitical unrest? ~a
[2021-08-12 17:32:00] - daniel: i asked you specifically because i remember you were talking to "jarvis" one day at sc2, i just wasn't sure what solution you were using. ~a
[2021-08-12 17:31:16] - daniel: yeah, i guess really don't integrate many smart devices with my voice assistant. i just ask it google questions, and tell it to play radio and music. but i use google's . . . not one of the opensource solutions. ~a
[2021-08-12 17:29:50] - a: I think I looked at it once but I don't currently use it or anything else to integrate smart devices. I never actually got enough smart things to feel like I needed something to integrate them so currently just have apps on my phone for sprinkler / ac / lights. -Daniel
[2021-08-12 16:46:17] - daniel: do you still use your home-assistant? remind me what software stack you used? thanks! ~a
[2021-08-12 13:33:12] - from statements made by dhs, it seems like there might be an armed protest in dc tomorrow? don't get me wrong, i love me a good protest, but an armed protest . . . that sounds less interesting. ~a
[2021-08-11 18:51:52] - mig: "democracy dies in darkness". they shed light on andrew cuomo's current behavior, but conveniently forget that they fawned over him in the past? i still think they're not letting democracy die in darkness, right? my proposal is that no news outlet will ever say "oops we fawned over someone too hard that ended up being a dirtbag". it'll never happen by any news agency. ~a
[2021-08-11 18:49:11] - or if you are an outlet that let the Andrew Cuomo's brother give him jokey softball segments on primetime news. - mig
[2021-08-11 18:46:15] - a: if the media outlet tagline is "democracy dies in darkness" I fucking absolutely expect it. - mig
[2021-08-11 18:38:51] - mig: "maybe we were wrong to write about this guy so fawning and uncritically all this time" i don't expect this kind of self-reflection out of myself, let alone others. ~a
[2021-08-11 18:36:54] - a: people are allowed to change their minds in light of new information. The information about sexual harassment isn't very new though. And even if it were somehow new information, it would certainly merit some, "maybe we were wrong to write about this guy so fawning and uncritically all this time" kind of reflection, which doesn't seem to be forthcoming. - mig
[2021-08-11 18:23:30] - if this is whataboutism, then i worry that every topic that you don't want to discuss can be whataboutism. ~a
[2021-08-11 18:23:10] - mig: i addressed your original point though, didn't i? that doing a 180 was not something we should deride, but instead, at the very least, encourage? new information and new results. if these people in your twitter thread were attempting to back andrew cuomo still today, wouldn't/shouldn't you be, more mad? the thing about gaetz is relevant, and on-topic, but what's more, i addressed your original point about 180s. ~a
[2021-08-11 18:12:38] - a: If I was making the argument that fox news is a paragon of journalistic standards or that Gaetz or Trump was a stellar guy, i'd see how that'd be relevant. But I'm making neither of those claims, so yes that's whatboutism. - mig
[2021-08-11 17:50:21] - like seriously, can we get a definition of whataboutism? because i originally thought that whataboutism at least required a distinct and obvious off-topic change. ~a
[2021-08-11 17:48:48] - mig: huh? no way this is patently not whatabout-ism. matt gaetz and andrew cuomo both are accused of sexual harassment. if this is whataboutism then *everything* is whataboutism. i'll admit the andrew cuomo situation is a greater magnitude since there was an official finding by an official investigation. ~a
[2021-08-11 17:45:05] - a: not really interested in fox new whatabout-ism, particularly since i'm not a fan of fox news i the first place. - mig
[2021-08-11 14:52:19] - mig: the fact that nobody on fox news or republican leadership seem to be doing a 180 on matt gaetz is the really telling story here. ~a
[2021-08-11 14:51:50] - mig: most or all of these 180s are . . . great! doing a 180 when you get new information seems to be something you're arguing is bad? or should be entertainment? or is sad? i mean "saving face" is kinda a strictly-human quality: i don't blame any of these people/newspapers for changing their tune, and although it may seem like there is a flip-flop when see their old posts, i think the flip-flop is a good thing, right? ~a
[2021-08-11 14:47:39] - I think a lot of the "hero worship" of cuomo definitely came about as a contrast to trump who didn't seem to take covid seriously and cuomo who did seem to. -Daniel
[2021-08-11 14:46:25] - mig: I agree that politician hero worship isn't a good idea but I don't see all of those as 180's. You can think he did a good job on covid (though clearly debatable - see Paul) and also think he is bad for treatment of women and right to resign. -Daniel
[2021-08-11 14:27:17] - https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1425241878212104197 pretty long thread on the 180s on Andrew Cuomo now that he's resigned. Part entertaining, part sad. - mig
[2021-08-09 00:44:59] - paul: yah i posted something similar to this on reddit. the delta variant hasn't really changed much for vaccinated folks. i'm more worried about the unvaccinated fucking everything over, than the delta variant fucking everything over. ~a
[2021-08-09 00:38:54] - paul: kiddy porn > terrorism. duh. ~a
[2021-08-08 13:03:37] - https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1424220574906261505 This sums up so much of the confusion I am seeing about the delta variant and vaccines. Feels like authorities are trying to scare the unvaccinated into getting vaccinated but unfortunately in the process are inadvertently casting doubt about the efficacy of the vaccine. -Paul
[2021-08-08 13:02:02] - a: What's odd to me is that Apple has taken great pains to present itself as the "privacy" tech company. I get that nobody wants to defend potential child pornographers, but they also famously wouldn't unlock a terrorist's iPhone. It's an interesting line to draw. -Paul
[2021-08-08 13:00:10] - a: "sounds like a synonym for a slippery slope?" Yeah, maybe slightly more... specific? I'm a little surprised it doesn't have some sexual innuendo to it.
-Paul[2021-08-07 05:54:13] - hi
[2021-08-06 19:46:24] - this is a little surprising i guess. false positives will happen in huge droves: computer vision isn't great. it seems like they could send private data to apple servers, this seems like it could be a major potential leak of data. i'm no apple fanboy, but this seems bad by even apple user's viewpoints. i'm sure most of them will hand-wave the false-positive rate away. ~a
[2021-08-06 19:36:56] - hah, i had to look that one up. sounds like a synonym for a slippery slope? ~a
[2021-08-06 19:34:48] - https://reason.com/2021/08/06/apple-will-start-checking-your-messages-for-dick-picks/ Today I learned what, "camel's nose under the tent" means... -Paul
[2021-08-06 17:31:45] - understood, yah. ~a
[2021-08-06 17:30:28] - a: Sure, but the specifics are different. Not sure any of them are going to create a massive cloud computing behemoth to rival AWS, but they also have an opportunity to become the PayPal of an area which might eventually be more receptive to transitioning to digital currency than the US (since they aren't saddled with our legacy credit card / banking system. -paul
[2021-08-06 17:19:52] - paul: yeah, i gotcha. lots of ways to grow. just like amazon of latam, then
~a[2021-08-06 17:18:01] - paul: i dunno.
~a[2021-08-06 17:17:32] - a: Yeah, it's considered like consumer product or cyclical, right? -Paul
[2021-08-06 17:17:08] - a: https://investor.mercadolibre.com/static-files/5474fbe7-c335-4611-ad31-6129c624ccc2 Check out page 13 of this presentation. Their ecommerce business is just one of 6 main things they are doing. They also have Pago, Shops, Envios, Credito, and an advertising business. Lots of ways to grow. -Paul
[2021-08-06 17:15:14] - paul: the fact that amzn isn't included in vgt drives me nuts. as you touch on, something like 90% of amazon's profit (not sales) comes from aws. whyyy doesn't the stock market consider them an it company? ~a
[2021-08-06 17:12:21] - a: Sure, it wasn't meant to be a dig at Amazon (AWS is arguably a bigger deal than ecommerce for them now, and advertising could get there as well). It was more to say that MELI and SE aren't just ecommerce plays to me. I think their lead in ecommerce in their areas are nice, but I also really like how it helps give them a lead in digital payments and other stuff. -paul
[2021-08-06 17:06:58] - paul: "but they also are getting in to digital payments and other stuff too" a bit of a nit-pick but that is exactly what i think amazon should be known *best* for: not really being an ecommerce company at all, but being into a shit-ton of other (more profitable and just better) major technical innovations. ~a
[2021-08-06 16:09:34] - a: Foreign companies I like: Shopify, Mercado Libre, Sea Limited (all mentioned already). I also really like Fiverr (25% off as of yesterday!), Nano-X (risky until they get FDA approval, though), and JD (although I have gotten really worried about China's crackdown on their companies). -Paul
[2021-08-06 16:04:01] - a: Like, Free Fire is a huge worldwide hit AND it's not even the part of the business I am most excited about. -Paul
[2021-08-06 16:03:24] - those companies often aren't just the "Amazon of LatAm" or "Amazon of SEA", but they also are getting in to digital payments and other stuff too. And oftentimes they are the leader in all of those things. It's like having the Amazon / Paypal / Shopify / Activision Blizzard of Southeast Asia.
-Paul[2021-08-06 16:01:38] - a: "you really like international ecomerce companies, don't you?" Yes.
It's a combination of loving exposure to emerging markets where (1) populations are growing (2) economy is growing (3) internet penetration is growing but also... -Paul[2021-08-06 15:57:28] - a: Expectations are a bitch sometimes.
-Paul[2021-08-06 15:57:15] - a: You think that is brutal? Redfin just had a stellar earnings report where they announced (1) Revenue increased 121% YoY (2) Gross profit increased 174% YoY (3) Real estate services gross margin up (4) Reached market share of 1.18% of U.S. existing home sales by value, an increase of 24 basis points... and the stock is down like 9% today. -paul
[2021-08-06 15:01:17] - ah, sea limited. i'm reading your last few writeups on se and meli. you really like international ecomerce companies, don't you?
is it because amazon doesn't have the same stranglehold on the rest of the world? ~a[2021-08-06 14:52:00] - paul: my individual portfolio is mostly us stocks. do you know of any great non-us individual stocks to look at? i'm a big fan of paulvsthemarket where you talk about shopify a lot, and i'm very glad i got into shopify years ago (it's my second-best performing stock after nvidia). any others on there that i might not know are international? i'm pretty sure meli is international? ~a
[2021-08-06 13:59:32] - paul: i know i'm beating a dead horse (the already-priced-in-information horse), but it still makes me sad that unemployment is at 5%, announced this morning, and the market is dead flat. ~a
[2021-08-05 18:42:02] - daniel: i think i found it in libreoffice calc (and i think excel has a similar feature): edit -> track changes -> merge (there's also "compare" which will do a diff). ~a
[2021-08-05 17:31:35] - a: Our code is validating data in spreadsheets currently so we have some for integration tests. Team has grown some and now people are making changes to the same sheets working on stories concurrently. -Daniel
[2021-08-05 17:21:17] - (its a bit in the weeds, but i do have a command-line tool i use to set cells in a spreadsheet. its usually bullshit managerial bullshit where i have to programmatically interface with spreadsheets) ~a
[2021-08-05 17:20:08] - daniel: what's the use-case? you don't have to explain your business, but like why is java talking to a spreadsheet? why isn't java talking to a database? to answer your question literally, yes java can talk to google sheets, but this is probably not actually what you want. ~a
[2021-08-05 17:08:54] - a: Can you have java get a file reference to a google spreadsheet? I guess if everyone sync'ed it to their local desktop somewhere? Hmm. -Daniel
[2021-08-05 16:44:26] - daniel: if you want to *look* at the diffs though, i have often used stuff like ods2csv / ods2tsv (and xlsx2csv). then you can just diff. ~a
[2021-08-05 16:43:04] - daniel: nooooope, sorry. i've done this a shit-ton with documents (odt/docx), but after i mostly moved to google sheets, this become a non-issue with spreadsheets: everybody edits the same spreadsheet! ~a
[2021-08-05 16:37:35] - Anyone know a good way to merge changes two people made to the same excel file other than by hand? -Daniel
[2021-08-04 17:42:18] - a: "Truly liquid assets" Nice. -Paul
[2021-08-04 16:25:53] - it's outperformed the s&p 500 by 1000% for over 20 years
~a[2021-08-04 16:19:37] - paul: i rewatched the axios interview. nevermind. the discussion there wasn't about cfr. it was about whether it should be per population or not. my deja vu must have been regarding something else. ~a
[2021-08-04 15:44:41] - a: If you watch full episodes I often skip the first six minutes cause the first task is always the same type and I'm less interested in that part. But the actual tasks / end of the show are generally good/funny. -Daniel
[2021-08-04 15:16:39] - a: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO4QTRSJAa4 is a reasonable entry. Almost all of them make me laugh though. -Daniel
[2021-08-04 14:49:38] - daniel: do you have a link to one we should watch? ~a
[2021-08-04 14:49:10] - lol. wait wait "in the chest"? jesus. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:45:26] - paul: i'd probably look at mortality per population (instead of per case). cfr ignores how prevalent the problem is. i.e. i don't think we should be mandating an ebola vaccine even though the cfr for ebola is something like 65%. am i having dejavu? did we discuss this back when trump was president? wasn't that what the whole Jonathan Swan / axios interview was about? maybe it wasn't cfr, maybe it was total cases? i forget. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:41:43] - a: All fair. But we don't require flu shots (and yes, I know doing any kind of comparison between the flu and COVID is touchy because COVID is far more dangerous), and all of those arguments apply there too. Where is the line drawn? CFR > 1? -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:29:57] - paul: what's more, we shouldn't ignore breakthrough cases. delta does make them slightly less rare. also, if the vaccination rates don't rise, breakthrough cases won't fall. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:26:52] - paul: i know some people with autoimmune diseases and they opted to get the vaccine after talking to their doctors. i still think its like being between a rock and a hard place where covid is so very prevalent and the fatality rate for covid is much higher for those with certain autoimmune diseases. so, you're basically in a no-win scenario. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:24:32] - paul: children under 12, "people who’ve had severe allergic reactions to any ingredients in the vaccine", "people who have autoimmune or other conditions should check with their doctor before getting the vaccine". so, sounds like mostly children under 12? for non-covid vaccines, this list is longer. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:21:36] - a: Sure, sorry, I meant unvaccinated are only getting other unvaccinated sick. Not that they can't harm other individuals. Besides children, who else can't get the vaccine? -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:19:04] - paul: "unvaccinated are *mostly* harming themselves" i'll stop you right there. no, just no. mostly not. mostly they're harming others: even if you think breathrough infections are rare (they are, but getting much less rare due to lack of vaccinations) you're still getting other *un*vaccinated people sick when you don't vaccinate: especially people who *can't* get the vaccine. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:18:44] - Daniel: "Hard part of psychology to overcome" Yeah, absolutely. I don't expect the media to change or even most of society to change, but maybe I can get a few friends to be skeptical of initial media reports on things and seek out other sides of stories or later corrections (https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/02/facebook-posts/novak-djokovic-did-not-refer-simone-biles-when-he-/) -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:17:17] - a: Let me ask you this: Since the vaccine helps protect people and the unvaccinated are *mostly* harming themselves... why not just let them be and suffer from their mistakes? I get that the unvaccinated can still spread it more but breakthrough infections are still pretty rare. -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:17:09] - Unrelated to the current topics at all but one of my new favorite things in the world is this British show called Taskmaster. Its stupid / funny but super funny to me. You can look it up and watch clips / episodes for free on Youtube. If you one clip (<10 minutes) of a task you'll get a good sense of the show. -Daniel
[2021-08-04 14:15:41] - a: Yeah, it's one of the toughest things for libertarians like me. I believe you shouldn't force people to inject themselves with stuff (my body, my choice, right?), but there's also the non-aggression principle of not harming others and spreading a virus obviously harms others. -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:15:22] - (some details on the national border thing if you want it) ~a
[2021-08-04 14:15:17] - paul: "stop making snap judgements" - I think most people would agree in theory while also almost 100% continuing to still make snap judgements
Hard part of psychology to overcome. -Daniel[2021-08-04 14:14:09] - paul: that is what i meant, yes. public school. but also border control (passport control or customs, i'm not sure which) has always required them at certain national borders. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:13:01] - a: "haven't we always done this with vaccines though?" Well, we require some for public school, right? I'm not sure there are any other requirements, are there? -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:12:19] - a: "she's (probably) been slandered, but "only" by the media" Yeah, and that's the main takeaway from the story for me. It's not about placing blame between the two Coopers or exonerating one or the other. It's about how irresponsible the media was in initially jumping to conclusions and then basically ignoring any nuance or complicating factors in their reporting. -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:11:43] - paul: "in order to participate in society" haven't we always done this with vaccines though? i'll admit that we're still very early to being mandating vaccines (we still don't have full approval), but it was part of my original question that fda approval happens first: its actually supposed to be right around the corner, i heard estimates of this month. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:11:09] - a: "that's a dubious argument and you know it." 100% agree, but let's be real, if it was a white man and white woman (or black man and black woman.... basically if race was removed as a factor), then the story could very easily have been how this horrible man was threatening this poor innocent woman. -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:10:14] - paul: "its not like she's been slandered" i now see that you're right i could have worded that better. she's (probably) been slandered, but "only" by the media
~a[2021-08-04 14:10:12] - "do you consider it an ok or even socially beneficial thing to do?" I really don't know. Obviously I see the benefits to getting as many people as vaccinated as possible and I share that goal, but I am also really uncomfortable with how willing people seem to be to make it mandatory for people to inject something (in many ways still experimental) into themselves in order to participate in society. -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:08:45] - a: I don't know if Cooper slandered her. Probably not? I don't know what he has said publicly. Even still, the point is not to charge more people with stuff, it's that this shouldn't have blown up at all. -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:08:36] - i think the media even mentioned the death threats with the original story. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:08:15] - paul: meh, they published her apology. i guess that's not what you meant? ~a
[2021-08-04 14:07:51] - paul: "What happened to believe all women?" that's a dubious argument and you know it. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:07:38] - a: "she gave her side of the story" She did? When did you hear it? -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:07:19] - paul: so nymag is slandering her? i'll buy that, but i don't think the video (or christian cooper) slandered her, right? ~a
[2021-08-04 14:07:18] - a: Oh, and the other thing they brought up (you should really just listen to the podcast
) was in the context of the Me Too movement. Man threatens woman who is alone in the park and she calls the cops and suddenly everybody is jumping on her for filing a false police report? What happened to believe all women? -Paul[2021-08-04 14:05:35] - paul: "How about trying to at least hear both sides of a story?" most of us did. she gave her side of the story. i didn't send her any damn death threats. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:05:30] - a: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/05/amy-cooper-didnt-learn-much-from-being-central-park-karen.html There's still a lot of grey area there. The early news reports said stuff like, "Cooper called the police on Christian Cooper [...] because he asked her to put her to leash her Cocker Spaniel" That's close to being false. She called because he threatened her. -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:04:04] - a: I'm not at all advocating for making anything illegal. I'm just saying that maybe we should stop making snap judgements on people in ways that ruin their lives based on single out of context photos or short videos. How about trying to at least hear both sides of a story? -Paul
[2021-08-04 14:03:49] - maybe not schools or airlines though? ~a
[2021-08-04 14:03:38] - i guess i also asked if its legal. i guess that's completely different. probably legal in most places i guess. ~a
[2021-08-04 14:03:07] - paul: maybe, but i don't think that even gets close to my question. 1. i'm talking about after full fda blah-blah. 2. i asked if it was acceptable. like do you consider it an ok or even socially beneficial thing to do? ~a
[2021-08-04 14:01:34] - a: "they weren't going to accept the unvaccinated inside their building?" I don't know, but isn't that already happening? I thought lots of organizations were basically requiring vaccination or weekly tests and no promotions. -Paul
[2021-08-04 13:58:58] - paul: "Plenty of things can look bad out of context" do we make everything that looks bad out of context illegal? i think that's dangerously close to the line you're drawing, isn't it? "Not sure the legal definition of slander" lets use a definition then. dictionary says "the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation". i'm "sure" it doesn't apply here. ~a
[2021-08-04 13:58:08] - a: I forgot one other point that was made: They made the point that if the roles had been reversed (white bird watcher harasses and threatens black dog walker and encourages them to call the police), the story could've played out the exact same way (ie, the white person would be cast as a horrible racist). -Paul
[2021-08-04 13:56:51] - a: "i worry one of these days i'll go viral" Me too. "its not like she's been slandered" Not sure the legal definition of slander, but she was charged with filing a false police report and that charge was dropped. There's a fine line between "out of context" and "slander" to me. Plenty of things can look bad out of context. -Paul
[2021-08-03 20:46:45] - aaaafter the vaccines get full fda approval, do you guys think it would be legal or acceptable if a restaurant (or airline, or school, or church, or whatever) decided they weren't going to accept the unvaccinated inside their building? for the sake of argument, lets assume there's a good and safe way to show someone that you've been vaccinated and that vaccines stay free and accessible. ~a
[2021-08-03 20:07:56] - paul: "because of bad luck, one person's life is permanently ruined" this is not a new story. i think its the kind of thing that libertarians regularly shrug their shoulders at. i think the only thing worse than having your life ruined is not having a chance in the first place. ~a
[2021-08-03 20:06:36] - mob justice never works. but on the other hand its not like she's been slandered. it was just the video of what happened. it doesn't tell the whole story obviously, but it tells part of the story. as someone who is white, and sometimes calls the non-emergency phone number regarding people who are sometimes not white, i worry one of these days i'll go viral. ~a
[2021-08-03 20:05:59] - a: Like, this should've been a not-newsworthy disagreement between two people not on their best behavior where nobody got remotely harmed. The type of thing that apparently happened plenty of times before and I'm sure still happens to this day. And instead, because of bad luck, one person's life is permanently ruined. -Paul
[2021-08-03 20:04:56] - yah. ~a
[2021-08-03 20:04:33] - a: But it's more about the whole idea of how quickly the media (and everybody) seized on a convenient and simple narrative and then the internet ran it into a deep, dark place. The dog walker is essentially in hiding now and received hundreds of death threats and obviously lost her job. -Paul
[2021-08-03 20:03:23] - a: That the 911 operator couldn't hear the dog walker, which is why she was talking loudly. It also, frankly, tells her side of the story, which we never heard. Again, my main takeaway isn't that she is innocent (I don't think she is completely innocent) or that he is at fault (he was kind of the instigator but obviously she overreacted a bit)... -paul
[2021-08-03 20:02:44] - if i was the birdwatcher i'd probably be sick and tired of interview requests too. the other stuff is pretty interesting though, thanks. ~a
[2021-08-03 20:00:12] - a: Uh, it's a lot of little things. That he threatened her. That this wasn't the first time he had done this (and, in fact, he specifically brought along dog treats to harass people with dogs in the area). That he had altercations with others (including a black man who ended up pushing him because he wouldn't leave him alone). -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:58:33] - Kmele (one of the hosts) made it clear on social media that he didn't intend for this to be an attempt to clear her name or anything, but more an indictment on the journalism surrounding the story and how it seemed to be uninterested in any nuance. It's worth noting that they tried to interview the birdwatcher, but he declined (they mention it at the end but it feels like it should be addressed earlier). -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:58:21] - paul: tl/dr for the central park karen? what did they intentionally leave out? ~a
[2021-08-03 19:57:15] - paul: this is true. ~a
[2021-08-03 19:57:01] - https://open.spotify.com/episode/1VOTep32GGOQ2gH2VrWTnS I gotta log off for today, but I wanted to drop this here because I found it really interesting. It's about the "Central Park Karen" story from last year where the white woman called the cops on the black bird watcher. -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:56:56] - daniel: ah, i think 60% of your stuff is overseas. emerging markets, european, and pacific are all overseas. ~a
[2021-08-03 19:56:07] - a: How much were those funds up last year, though? Probably not 175%. Might be a different mix of companies.
-Paul[2021-08-03 19:51:21] - paul: well i checked up on your "growthy" theory: vanguard growth (+18%) vanguard value (+18%). i don't see a vanguard meme, or vanguard wsb
~a[2021-08-03 19:46:30] - a: Zing! -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:46:20] - a: Passive indexing doesn't work. It loses to the index.
-Paul[2021-08-03 19:46:05] - "you need to go back to stats class" awwww man you got me! ~a
[2021-08-03 19:46:00] - a: Lots of SPACs. Lots of growthy names. Lots of gene editing. -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:45:47] - daniel: vtiax is up 8% ytd, so i'm not sure 40% of your stuff being overseas explains the difference. ~a
[2021-08-03 19:45:15] - a: "but also you'd think with a "random" selection of 20 or 30 companies" I don't think it's a random selection (you need to go back to stats class
). Lots of the participants are from CommonStock. I'm guessing a handful started investing during the WSB / Meme stock craze or at least are overindexed for ARKK stuff or other growthy names. -Paul[2021-08-03 19:43:20] - daniel: not surprising to you? why do international stocks historically lose to domestic? what's the deal there? i'd expect at least a tiny bit of reversion to the mean. ~a
[2021-08-03 19:42:09] - a: 40% of my fantasy stuff is overseas. so not surprising to me. -Daniel
[2021-08-03 19:40:58] - paul: right, but that would maybe explain you losing to the market. what about the other 16? daniel for instance? i'm blown away by how much he's losing to the s&p500
but also you'd think with a "random" selection of 20 or 30 companies, at least a few random groupings of 5 would be beating the market. ~a[2021-08-03 19:40:29] - Daniel: "Its what SOME have been trying to do. R's (and L's?) don't seem to want to cooperate" You're welcome to think that. Obviously I disagree. In fact, I would argue that some of the worst disparities in public schools are solidly democratic areas. NYC seems to have some truly terrible public schools, as does Baltimore. -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:39:28] - a: "of the 17 people in the stock market challenge, not one of them are beating the s&p 500" I wouldn't have expected it, necessarily, but I am not at all surprised. 2020 was insane. Many of my companies like doubled. That's unsustainable and I am not at all surprised to see them flat or down this year as other companies "catch up". -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:38:39] - though does speak to part of the hard thing of our gov is that so few times does a party really get to enact their vision to then see how it would actually work. -Daniel
[2021-08-03 19:38:09] - Daniel: Also: "people who can afford to pay more for better schools and leaving those who can't to just deal" is exactly what we have now with people who can afford to sending their kids to private schools. This way, we make it more possible for poor people to afford those better private schools. -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:38:06] - Paul: Its what SOME have been trying to do. R's (and L's?) don't seem to want to cooperate. -Daniel
[2021-08-03 19:37:16] - Daniel: "I would argue for making those worse schools better than making people who can afford to pay more for better schools and leaving those who can't to just deal" But that's what we've been trying to do for decades and, surprise, the monopoly in public schools hasn't been great at improving itself. -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:36:29] - paul/daniel: of the 17 people in the stock market challenge, not one of them are beating the s&p 500. to me this is unexpected and i wouldn't have been able to foresee this. maybe only a handful beating the market, but literally nobody beating the market? is this something that we can learn from? vtsax is up 18% ytd. s&p500 is up 18% ytd (18.5% with dividends). everybody else is less than up 18% ytd. thoughts? ~a
[2021-08-03 19:36:25] - a: https://www.gobankingrates.com/saving-money/education/private-school-cost-vs-public-school/ Or here is another about how private school is, on average, cheaper than public school in most states. -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:36:08] - paul: Right and so I would argue for making those worse schools better than making people who can afford to pay more for better schools and leaving those who can't to just deal. -Daniel
[2021-08-03 19:35:24] - https://educationdata.org/public-education-spending-statistics and https://educationdata.org/average-cost-of-private-school indicates a difference between $14,484 and $12,350 for public vs private. -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:34:41] - paul: can you link one? i'm having trouble reconciling this with the other bullshit stats on that webpage. ~a
[2021-08-03 19:34:03] - a: "have you been to the front page?" Nope, but you can find similar stats in later search results. -Paul
[2021-08-03 19:30:29] - Daniel: "Aren't those the less good schools by definition?" Probably. I certainly agree in my proposal that there would be better schools and worse schools, but that's also how it is now. The difference being that right now, people are locked into bad schools based on where they live, where in my proposal they would have some choice available to them. -paul
[2021-08-03 18:40:20] - wait not weary, wary. very close words haha. ~a
[2021-08-03 18:39:40] - with a name like "just facts" i should have been weary.
~a[2021-08-03 18:38:38] - paul/daniel: ooooof, nevermind nevermind nevermind. paul your link seems to be a problem. have you been to the front page? ~a
[2021-08-03 18:36:10] - daniel: 10 bucks for school and good schools cost 100? can we use a real example? from paul's link, each student is going to get 14k/year, and private schools cost on-average 8k/year. i think you're going to be sad by the real-world examples. ~a
[2021-08-03 18:33:10] - a: define failing? A lot of people think we do fail kids cause we dont make schools better for everyone. I think our schools could be better - I dont think a school market does that though. -Daniel
[2021-08-03 18:32:28] - a: " they can afford it (almost) by definition" not if good schools raise the price? If everyone gets 10 bucks for school but good schools cost 100 then who can go? -Daniel
[2021-08-03 18:10:40] - daniel: "Equal / Fair schooling" does this need to be the goal? if so, then why aren't we already failing because there are for-profit schools that cost more and are (often) better? ~a
[2021-08-03 18:09:28] - daniel: "Capitalism is super good at providing the best service to those that can afford it" but we're literally talking about giving people money. they can afford it (almost) by definition. is your argument that schools will only cost more than we give to the people? ~a
[2021-08-03 18:09:25] - paul: Aren't those the less good schools by definition? Equal / Fair schooling doesn't seem an outcome of this system or a goal of the system. I don't know that its definitely an outcome of the current system but its at least a goal that people work towards. -Daniel
[2021-08-03 18:08:18] - a: the capatalism is the market for schools. -Daniel
[2021-08-03 17:52:36] - a: Hah, I love how the picture for "goatee" is of Uncle Sam. -Paul
[2021-08-03 17:30:42] - paul: there i fixed it ~a
[2021-08-03 17:27:38] - Daniel: "So what happens to poor kids when x dollars isn't enough cause good schools raise prices?" Then lower costs schools will move in? I don't understand why the market wouldn't work here. It's not like groceries are priced out of range for poor people because the government isn't "fairly" providing it to everybody. -Paul
[2021-08-03 17:23:58] - paul: rename department of ed, department of schooling. ~a
[2021-08-03 17:22:06] - daniel: in this case, though, paul wants us to all pay tax money that we'd then get back to pay for our kids educations. so not even remotely capitalism. ~a
[2021-08-03 17:21:07] - I don't think Capitalism always works the best when the idea is to provide something to everyone in a good / reasonable / fair way. Capitalism is super good at providing the best service to those that can afford it. But I think education (and other things) don't fall into that paradigm well. -Daniel
[2021-08-03 17:19:43] - Paul: So what happens to poor kids when x dollars isn't enough cause good schools raise prices? -Daniel
[2021-08-03 17:14:11] - a: https://www.justfactsdaily.com/public-school-funding-per-student-averages-80-more-than-private-schools I have no idea if this site is reliable, but it was one of the first search results and paints the picture I would expect: "Twenty-five years ago, the U.S. Department of Education (DOE) estimated that public K–12 schools spent an average of 43–52% more per student than private schools in the 1991–92 school year." -Paul
[2021-08-03 17:12:07] - a: "i feel like for this to work you'd have to find a large number of inefficiencies in the current system" Why? We're just shifting where money is going. The only way it doesn't work is if you assume private schools are less efficient than public schools. -Paul
[2021-08-03 17:10:18] - a: Sorry about DoE confusion. I should've known that. Maybe we should rename the Department of Energy to Department of Power or something? -Paul
[2021-08-03 17:09:34] - Daniel: Like Adrian said: Add more classrooms / teachers / schools? Raise prices? It's the free market. It's the same way Tesla deals with more demand than they can meet or Intel. -Paul
[2021-08-03 17:08:09] - i'm adding it back. ~a
[2021-08-03 17:07:54] - a: Yes, I am shocked wikipedia doesn't reference the facial hair thing, although I believe it was only a thing for Spock. -Paul
[2021-08-03 16:51:21] - ha, ok, i looked through the history, and it was removed last week
~a[2021-08-03 16:47:35] - wtf wikipdia is fucked up: i found reference to "goatee" on this page *and* this page. someone must have just scrubbed it from the original link? ~a
[2021-08-03 16:44:55] - "I don't have any links to back me up" its a very bold claim. extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence? i feel like for this to work you'd have to find a large number of inefficiencies in the current system. ~a
[2021-08-03 16:40:19] - paul: doe is department of energy, btw. doed (usually DOEd) is department of education. ~a
[2021-08-03 16:31:41] - daniel: always be matching supply with demand. ~a
[2021-08-03 16:30:37] - daniel: increase capacity and/or increase prices . . . that is, until competition comes in. ~a
[2021-08-03 16:21:23] - paul: How do schools deal with more demand than they can meet? -Daniel
[2021-08-03 15:55:21] - a: Yeah, take it from the current money spent on the public school system. I don't have any links to back me up, but I feel pretty certain between the DoE and the money spent by local governments, there is more than enough to cover this and probably even return money to tax payers. -Paul
[2021-08-03 15:51:14] - "you give each parent $X per child" does this come from tax money? ~a
[2021-08-03 15:50:52] - a: And if there are poor schools... then they go out of business. -Paul
[2021-08-03 15:50:35] - a: So poor kids living in poor areas aren't doomed to being stuck going to bad schools, which is basically what happens now. -Paul
[2021-08-03 15:49:50] - a: My private school proposal in a nutshell is instead of spending a bunch of money on a public school system that I think doesn't work well and also causes a bunch of fights over things like "do you teach evolution / CRT / etc in school?", you give each parent $X per child to send them to any school they wish. -Paul
[2021-08-03 15:48:44] - am i crazy to think that this wikipedia article should have some mention of "beard" or "facial hair" or something similar??? Mirror, Mirror (Star Trek: The Original Series) . . . for what its worth, i think i've never actually watched this episode, but i have seen it referenced innumerably. ~a
[2021-08-03 15:23:35] - paul: ok, now can you tell me your private-school-only proposal? if my parents don't have money to spend on school, and my community is to poor to fund a school on its own, i assume i don't go to school? or you think vouchers would be the "main" way for kids to pick their schools? being pro-taxes here seems very non-libertarian to me? give me something to work with here
~a[2021-08-03 15:14:03] - a: I mention states because typically local governments largely fund / administer their public schools. So money taken by the department of education could instead be going straight to those state governments. It's a little more.... radical to propose giving all that money to individuals to spend on any schools they want (although I am in favor of that). -Paul
[2021-08-03 15:10:35] - paul: "Does it help" i'll also answer this question: yes it does help. its one of the progressive ideas that i can sometimes get behind, but poor communities need money for education too. if you were poor and lived in a poor community, what is your proposal for how you should get educated? ~a
[2021-08-03 15:08:11] - paul: "people/states" you keep adding on states to this. is there any evidence that the states give significant amounts of education money to the federal government? ~a
[2021-08-03 15:07:20] - paul: "my assumption of them all being in DC was wrong" yeah i was going to start there and then found that all of their "main" buildings were in dc, so i decided not to go that direction. ~a
[2021-08-03 15:06:46] - a: Well, I can't easily find that info.
Sounds like the DoE has satellite offices? So my assumption of them all being in DC was wrong. Either way, I still wonder what value is added to these layers of bureaucracy. Does it help to have people/states send money to the federal government so they can turn around and send it back with stipulations on it? -Paul[2021-08-03 15:05:18] - 100k today, is 40k in 1985. inflation so crazy. ~a
[2021-08-03 15:03:36] - paul: i mean . . . maybe. i don't know. ~a
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