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[2001-06-13 13:10:00] - mig: did you know it only takes one guy to kill a lot of people? = ) -dave
[2001-06-13 13:10:00] - mig: Well, it depends on what the irrate caller tells the FCC -paul
[2001-06-13 13:09:00] - hehe. yeah. what he said. ~a
[2001-06-13 13:09:00] - paul, i could make them (capitol & refresh) options. i'll look into it. ~a
[2001-06-13 13:09:00] - that previous post didn't make much sense... I was trying to say that adrian could let you choose how long to wait to refresh - dewey
[2001-06-13 13:09:00] - did any of you guys know it can just take one phone call from a irrate caller to get a radio station fined thousands of dollars by the FCC? - mig
[2001-06-13 13:09:00] - dewey: You mean at school or at home? Because at school I usually use the graphical posts thingy -paul
[2001-06-13 13:07:00] - dewey: oh, i didn't know he was paying for it too = ) -dave
[2001-06-13 13:06:00] - dewey: I thought it was silly that the kid was getting kicked out of school for drawing a gun. I thought hand-cuffing him was excessive as well -paul
[2001-06-13 13:06:00] - hell, if adrian wanted to be real sneaky- he could serve you a cookie about how many seconds to wait before refreshing so you could turn it off if you wanted. - dewey
[2001-06-13 13:05:00] - paul: how many times do you sit at your computer clicking reload to see if anyone responded to your previous post? - dewey
[2001-06-13 13:03:00] - paul: were you for or against that article? - dewey
[2001-06-13 13:02:00] - "We just need to get it through kids' heads that there are certain things you don't say and there are certain things you don't draw"
- dewey[2001-06-13 13:01:00] - a: btw, is there a reason why you took away the ability to type messages with capital letters? Just wondering... -paul
[2001-06-13 12:59:00] - dewey: Because it's an unnecessary and infringing feature -paul
[2001-06-13 12:57:00] - a: I use netscape here at work, and the cursor doesn't start in the box, so it only comes in focus when I click on it. -dewey
[2001-06-13 12:56:00] - a: "onLoseFocus" = onBlur. And I think the onLoad happens first. - dewey
[2001-06-13 12:56:00] - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/so/20010612/en/playing_eminem_single_could_be_even_more_costly_for_stations_now_1.html protect the children! - mig
[2001-06-13 12:55:00] - paul: why is autorefresh bad? - dewey
[2001-06-13 12:54:00] - yes, i'm sure that will make it all better. - mig
[2001-06-13 12:50:00] - mig: True, that's why we need to get rid of bad influences like Computer Games and Violent Music
-paul[2001-06-13 12:46:00] - meh. this is just as likely to happen in a private, school, in fact probably more likely to happen. - mig
[2001-06-13 12:46:00] - a: Automatic refreshing is bad! -paul
[2001-06-13 12:45:00] - which is evaluated first, the onload or onfocus? ~a
[2001-06-13 12:45:00] - and shouldn't i set code for the onlosefocus or whatever it is called? and what happens if the text box starts out with focus onload? ~a
[2001-06-13 12:44:00] - http://www.sptimes.com/News/051101/TampaBay/Student_removed_from_.shtml Hurray for public schools! -paul
[2001-06-13 12:44:00] - as long as everyone agrees that this would not bother them, i will put it in. ~a
[2001-06-13 12:42:00] - that will let your message board refresh automatically, but not if someone is in the middle of typing.
-dewey[2001-06-13 12:41:00] - <html> <body onLoad="javascript:incid=setTimeout('location.reload()',50000)"> <form method=post> <input type=text onFocus="clearTimeout(incid)"> </body> </html> - dewey
[2001-06-13 12:39:00] - adrian! prepare to copy: - dewey
[2001-06-13 12:14:00] - a: http://www.priceline.com
[2001-06-13 12:09:00] - a: I'm sure you can find some way of making enough money to go on a trip to Greece, it can't be terribly expensive. You should check to see how much it costs. -paul
[2001-06-13 11:55:00] - <javascript
[2001-06-13 11:38:00] - a: then I am confused - dewey
[2001-06-13 11:38:00] - a: then I am confused
[2001-06-13 11:33:00] - dewey: that question has already been answered. ~a
[2001-06-13 11:31:00] - dave: of course, he still has to pay for college too
- dewey[2001-06-13 11:26:00] - a: so why is it that you are going to greece? - dewey
[2001-06-13 11:22:00] - like i said, it was just a thought. - mig
[2001-06-13 11:20:00] - mig: i'm not sure it does -dave
[2001-06-13 11:19:00] - a: i'm assuming you're just paying for yourself since you're meeting your gf there
-dave[2001-06-13 11:18:00] - a: i would think you could get a 1-2 week to greece for a few thousand dollars, which is probably well within what you make -dave
[2001-06-13 11:16:00] - a: so do i, but that 3 months still pays for a full semester of college for me. -dave
[2001-06-13 11:10:00] - i really don't know how much it costs. my problem is i work 3 months out of 12. ~a
[2001-06-13 11:07:00] - whoops. though = thought. - mig
[2001-06-13 11:07:00] - it was just a though. i don't know if it really works that way. - mig
[2001-06-13 11:07:00] - a: don't you make some good money at your job? you still wouldn't have enough to pay for a trip to greece? -dave
[2001-06-13 11:05:00] - mig: would it really be any cheaper? -dave
[2001-06-13 10:55:00] - a: Or, better question, how much money do you need for the trip? -paul
[2001-06-13 10:49:00] - a: How much is the plane ticket? -paul
[2001-06-13 10:48:00] - try waiting around the airport for no-shows! - mig
[2001-06-13 10:41:00] - dave: i probably won't be able to go. like i said, i can't afford it.
~a[2001-06-13 10:04:00] - http://newscenter.verizon.com/proactive/newsroom/release.vtml?id=56108 hmm..... - mig
[2001-06-13 09:41:00] - aaron: I agree though, I was completly confused by that photo. - dewey
[2001-06-13 09:41:00] - aaron: or was it a sign made of weed, and he was really just getting high?
- dewey[2001-06-13 09:38:00] - dave: My sentiments exactly. Heh. Maybe he was actually trying to put it out? - aaron
[2001-06-13 09:27:00] - aaron: so were the people pro-bush or anti-bush? -dave
[2001-06-13 09:23:00] - Hm, I don't know if burning a sign which says, "Stop Bush", is really the clearest method of protest. - aaron
[2001-06-13 08:45:00] - although there might be a pretty good chance that our heated political and moral debates would bore anyone away -dave
[2001-06-13 08:45:00] - vinnie: he's right that there would be a greater chance of random people coming though -dave
[2001-06-13 08:36:00] - dewey: you assume random people visit our pages. well, I guess people visit your page for your ftp, but i doubt random people visit mine
- vinnie[2001-06-13 08:24:00] - the geforce 3 has 15 million more transistors than the pentium 4 -dave
[2001-06-13 08:20:00] - if we put the button on our page, won't we get random people here posting? - dewey
[2001-06-13 08:13:00] - paul: it might get a new lease on life since fire mastery % is supposed to be greatly increased in xpansion -dave
[2001-06-13 08:11:00] - paul: i don't hate fireball. i just wonder why everyone says it's a waste of points -dave
[2001-06-13 08:10:00] - a: I hope you get to greece. when were you thinking of going? -dave
[2001-06-13 00:06:00] - it is my first php program so please tell me if there are any things i am doing wrong with it. thanks. ~a
[2001-06-12 23:22:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/modphp/source.mboard.php there. ~a
[2001-06-12 23:12:00] - if anyone wants to see the code, i'll make it open source. it is png so it doesn't work on some macs according to pierce. ~a
[2001-06-12 23:11:00] - and it changes with who is winning. and it is php. yay. ~a
[2001-06-12 23:11:00] - <a href=http://aporter.dhs.org/><img src=http://aporter.dhs.org/mboard.png border=0></a> <--- use this html for the button. ~a
[2001-06-12 23:10:00] - a: Neat button -paul
[2001-06-12 23:06:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57625-2001Jun12.html
[2001-06-12 22:41:00] - a: It would help a lot if you rigged yourself up with explosives like in Swordfish, that way they know you mean business -paul
[2001-06-12 22:35:00] - desparate times call for desperate measures. - mig
[2001-06-12 22:35:00] -
[2001-06-12 22:34:00] - yeah. that will work. seriously, i think they will go for that. mom, dad, i will kill you if you don't pay for me to go to greece. right. ~a
[2001-06-12 22:34:00] - tell them "pay up or die!" - mig
[2001-06-12 22:26:00] - a:
You can tell your parents that Paul says that they should pay for your airfare then -paul[2001-06-12 22:24:00] - yes. she does. she has no problem with it. ~a
[2001-06-12 22:23:00] - a: Does Aparna know about this girlfriend in Greece? -paul
[2001-06-12 22:21:00] - girlfriend. ~a
[2001-06-12 22:20:00] - a: Why do you want to go to Greece? -paul
[2001-06-12 22:17:00] - i don't know that either i just know that it shouldn't be that much, just more than i can afford considering i work 3 months out of 12. ~a
[2001-06-12 22:16:00] - i don't know the details but i know each trip was 1+ weeks and each trip envolved many countries. ~a
[2001-06-12 22:15:00] - and then how much would air fare to greece cost? - mig
[2001-06-12 22:15:00] - that would depend. where'd your sibling go and how much was it? - mig
[2001-06-12 22:13:00] - ok. say you have never been out of the us, right? and your parents paid for your young sibling to go to many far away countries three times, is it too much to ask for air fare to greece? ~a
[2001-06-12 17:25:00] - http://www.snowday.org/diablo2/fury/fury04.jpg - katie
[2001-06-12 17:18:00] - charged bolt all the way
- katie[2001-06-12 17:08:00] - bleh. glacial spike is better. - mig
[2001-06-12 17:05:00] - fireball is a respectable skill... 139 - 147 damage at slvl 20. - katie
[2001-06-12 17:00:00] - my web site is down due to people who have been plagairizing my art/etc. plus it was just getting old. - katie
[2001-06-12 16:59:00] - heh... i did it in paint shop pro... i actually dislike photoshop (i think it has a poor interface) - katie
[2001-06-12 16:53:00] - dave: I don't see why you hate fireball so much -paul
[2001-06-12 15:47:00] - Katie F. doesn't post here, she reads it only rarely, so I think you can discount her from your Katie-count -- Xpovos
[2001-06-12 15:17:00] - Mmmm sounds cool. I'll certainly browse it when it comes back up - aaron
[2001-06-12 15:11:00] - found it: snowday.org - vinnie
[2001-06-12 15:08:00] - i forgot the website though. it should be in the search somewhere. just look for "katie" - vinnie
[2001-06-12 15:07:00] - i believe it's some other katie that goes to tech - vinnie
[2001-06-12 15:05:00] - Who is katie? Is this andrew katie or some other katie? Which web site? I want to see! - aaron
[2001-06-12 15:03:00] - yeah, katie's website is full of cool art - vinnie
[2001-06-12 14:36:00] - Which web site? Two katies? I was unaware as well. - aaron
[2001-06-12 14:33:00] - <img src=http://aporter.dhs.org/pics/cats/ross&megan.jpg> MMmmm, tasty butt - dewey
[2001-06-12 14:30:00] - I'm confused, did I post the 20000 message or the 19999? - dewey
[2001-06-12 14:29:00] - dewey: hooray! - dewey
[2001-06-12 14:25:00] - a: two katies? -dave
[2001-06-12 14:21:00] - i guess we have to remember that there are two katies that post to this board. ~a
[2001-06-12 14:21:00] - if you have been to her website, you would know she isn't hiding anything. ~a
[2001-06-12 14:04:00] - Did you color it in photoshop? It is very good! The ears and musculature and shading and everything... Wow, very very good! Clearly you have been hiding something from us!
- aaron[2001-06-12 14:02:00] - Ha, wow! Thoroughly nice goat Katie. I really like it!
- aaron[2001-06-12 13:35:00] - nice goat
~a[2001-06-12 13:34:00] - why did logan stop posting? it has been over 3000 messages since he was last here. ~a
[2001-06-12 13:32:00] - i drew a goat. http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Katie-Scully/cullen_field.jpg - katie
[2001-06-12 13:02:00] - dewey, i offered to give a prize to the 20000th poster. no one came up with any suggestions, sorry (logan got $10 for the 10000th post) ~a
[2001-06-12 11:42:00] - i have an amazon somewhere on the europe realm who only uses her fists - katie
[2001-06-12 11:41:00] - someone i know of killed hell/hell diablo, totally naked, using only firebolt. - katie
[2001-06-12 11:39:00] - heh, you can make any skill viable. i've got charged-bolt sorcs, pure lightning sorcs, leap attack barbs, minionless necros, melee amazons... - katie
[2001-06-12 11:33:00] - my problem with d2x is that in order to have certain problems fixed in vanilla d2, you need to buy the expansion. it's unfair that i paid $40 for a broken game, and i need to pay another $40 to fix it. - katie
[2001-06-12 11:29:00] - paul: and keep in mind what the webpage says - they don't know what changes are going to be made for the final version -dave
[2001-06-12 11:28:00] - paul: fireball still is not a great spell unfortunately. -dave
[2001-06-12 11:27:00] - paul: but watch out, monsters can be totally immune to damage from a certain tree now. so you're dead if you get a unique who is immune to two schools -dave
[2001-06-12 11:26:00] - paul: looks like fire tree will be viable after all -dave
[2001-06-12 11:25:00] - and d2 xpansion is majorly different. take a look http://www.d2source.com/beta/ -dave
[2001-06-12 11:25:00] - i like boston public = ) -dave
[2001-06-12 11:24:00] - congrats, dewey - vinnie
[2001-06-12 11:23:00] - ack! we reached 20000 posts!!!!!!! - vinnie
[2001-06-12 11:23:00] - paul: law and order is the tops - vinnie
[2001-06-12 11:15:00] - mig: You should watch at least one episode, they present some compelling issues that schools have to face -paul
[2001-06-12 11:12:00] - i'm not too wild about drama shows. my mom watches enough of them here. - mig
[2001-06-12 10:53:00] - jdb and dewey: I don't know if anybody else would want to watch "drama" shows like that but we should try to get together at college to watch them. -paul
[2001-06-12 10:51:00] - aaron: oh, it's not. but for the record i know many individuals that are not in debt from going to college. -jdb
[2001-06-12 10:49:00] - cool, boston public is one of my fav shows.
-jdb[2001-06-12 10:48:00] - paul: Hooray! I agree completely that "Boston Public" is a good show. You state many things I like about the show in your journal, and I would love to watch my evening shows with you guys. I look forward to the debates we could have - dewey
[2001-06-12 10:46:00] - I don't understand. How is "myRichUncle" so much different from being in debt? - aaron
[2001-06-12 10:46:00] - paul: "FAFSA" Free Application for Federal Student Aid http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/ - dewey
[2001-06-12 10:42:00] - jdb: for the average american, my statement applies. - dewey
[2001-06-12 10:37:00] - dewey: http://aporter.dhs.org/?a=2&d=78#19701
-jdb[2001-06-12 10:35:00] - mig: Really? Ok then, my bad. I guess I have to single out another group of people that deserve government help but doesn't get it -paul
[2001-06-12 10:34:00] - dewey: it's not impossible to run up debts in college. that's a pretty broad statement to make. -jdb
[2001-06-12 10:30:00] - paul: yep. - mig
[2001-06-12 10:26:00] - dewey: Is that a federal program though? -paul
[2001-06-12 10:20:00] - I guess he is only going by filedates, because he doesn't have mine listed: only ones on his server.
-dewey[2001-06-12 10:18:00] - yeah, and convient too
-dewey[2001-06-12 10:18:00] - but I still think social security is over-reaching and worthless. If old people are dumb and whine, too bad. - dewey
[2001-06-12 10:17:00] - dewey: Oh, ok. That's pretty neat. -paul
[2001-06-12 10:17:00] - paul: I am getting $5,500 from Stafford loans for next year. Stafford loans are awarded by the Dept of Education for college students. don't have to start paying till I graduate. -dewey
[2001-06-12 10:16:00] - paul: if the journal was updated within the past 24 hours, adrian's page displays "new" next to it. click the word new to see the status of the journals. -dewey
[2001-06-12 10:16:00] - we do. we call it finicial aid. - mig
[2001-06-12 10:14:00] - dewey: So the question becomes, why do we have government programs like social security to help the old, but no programs to help the college students? -paul
[2001-06-12 10:11:00] - if you are a college student, you run up debts. no one expects you to have $40k at age 18. It is impossible not to go into debt for college- if not the child then the parents borrow money. -dewey
[2001-06-12 10:09:00] - a: What does that "new" link next to Pierce's journal mean? -paul
[2001-06-12 10:08:00] - paul: on a sorta random note, old people have much more political clout than young people -dave
[2001-06-12 10:03:00] - paul: look here, i'm just pointing out the other side, i don't know whether i personally think it should be forced or not -dave
[2001-06-12 10:02:00] - paul: because they pull at the public's heart-strings more -dave
[2001-06-12 10:00:00] - dave: We should force all college students to pay off all their bills so they don't run up a debt, that way we don't have whining college students on our hands -paul
[2001-06-12 09:59:00] - dave: Again, why do we care so much more about whining old people then whining college students? -paul
[2001-06-12 09:58:00] - paul: correct -dave
[2001-06-12 09:57:00] - dave: That's because capitalism almost always yields better results then government -paul
[2001-06-12 09:56:00] - paul: because we don't want to have a bunch of whining old people on our hands -dave
[2001-06-12 09:56:00] - jdb: I agree, cato.org can be hell to navigate through. I'll try to find you some specifics tonight when I have time to surf but I offer no certainties -paul
[2001-06-12 09:55:00] - like you hear all those statistics saying if you invest $20 a month from age 20-30, then by the time you are 60 you will be a multi-millionaire -dave
[2001-06-12 09:54:00] - dave: Why do we force them to do it though? Why can't we trust people to do their own retirement? -paul
[2001-06-12 09:54:00] - paul: you find articles that address the specifics of dealing with current recipients, and i'll read it. i really don't care to dig through *shudder* cato.org -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:53:00] - and besides, if you privatize it, you'll end up getting a lot more for your money since commercial funds will actually make your money grow quite a bit -dave
[2001-06-12 09:52:00] - paul: i think i read a lot about this possibility in ap gov -dave
[2001-06-12 09:52:00] - dave: yeah, death penalty is usually a state thing. mcveigh is the first federal execution in like 40 years (i think). -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:52:00] - paul: i think one way is to privatize it. like make a law that requires people to invest a certain amount into some fund that they can't take out of. like ira's -dave
[2001-06-12 09:50:00] - jdb: thx for the article on the death penalty cost. i take it that the state foots most of the bill? -dave
[2001-06-12 09:48:00] - jdb: I think the Cato Institute has a lot of information about privatization of social security if you want to check them out at www.cato.org -paul
[2001-06-12 09:44:00] - paul: i really don't know -- but i have yet to hear any proposals about getting rid of it that take recipients into consideration. -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:40:00] - http://www.sonicnet.com/news/story.jhtml?id=1444426 this is not good. - mig
[2001-06-12 09:14:00] - dewey: politicians can't think the 60 or whatever years ahead that it would take. they're all in the short term -dave
[2001-06-12 09:13:00] - paul: i hope i'm not in a position where i'm dependent on social security if they me off in one fell swoop. -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:13:00] - paul: i think it'd be too hard to practically do that. there's just not enough money around to pay everyone off. and people wouldn't let the government just "default" on all that money -dave
[2001-06-12 09:12:00] - jdb: Do you think social security is a government program that we should keep? -paul
[2001-06-12 09:12:00] - dave: here is the death penalty cost broken down some more http://www.deathpenalty.org/old_site/newsninfo/cost.html -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:11:00] - dave: the resources of Earth are going to deplete too, but not for a really long time. but if we don't start conserving now... If we start to stop the program now, then we have a chance in the future of being financialy secure - dewey
[2001-06-12 09:11:00] - dave: Which is why I think they should just cut everyone off in one fell swoop -paul
[2001-06-12 09:10:00] - jdb: Paying off the national debt sounds nice, but all that means is that the government is spending beyond it's income and instead of making government smaller we are paying more money to keep it the same size -paul
[2001-06-12 09:10:00] - paul: that'd take a long time. i mean heck, even as college students we've already contributed to social security from our summer jobs -dave
[2001-06-12 09:10:00] - there is no double jeopardy for suspects, so why should you get more than one appeal? - dewey
[2001-06-12 09:09:00] - jdb: but i'm not positive on the details on that one. i could be wrong -dave
[2001-06-12 09:08:00] - hooray and all for making sure we put to death the correct person, but we don't need all those damn appeals. That would cut those costs. - dewey
[2001-06-12 09:08:00] - jdb: If you want to get rid of it slower, you can always just stop charging people and only give money to people on Social Security and just wait for them all to die off -paul
[2001-06-12 09:08:00] - jdb: haven't we covered that already? i think i've responded before that supposedly the national debt is taken into account as well - they're paying it down as well as giving us a tax cut -dave
[2001-06-12 09:08:00] - paul: but if you are talking about buying people out -- then this is not simply a matter of using existing funds or reallocation. should we have a 75% tax year or something? -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:07:00] - dave: yes, i think the national debt should be a focus, not put on the backburner (tax cuts for everyone!) -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:07:00] - jdb: The money comes from a variety of places, taxes mostly. The government has a lot of money. -paul
[2001-06-12 09:06:00] - jdb: but i guess what really matters is how much more does it cost than a regular case -dave
[2001-06-12 09:06:00] - jdb: welcome to the concept of national debt. social security is where most of it is -dave
[2001-06-12 09:06:00] - Average Cost per inmate per day: http://www.lbb.state.tx.us/lbb/members/reports/summary/INMATEC.htm -dewey
[2001-06-12 09:05:00] - dave: no clue. i'm guessing that such a trial is more drawn out, requires more evidence and lawyers blah blah blah. -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:05:00] - paul: obviously no but everyone feels bad because they're old people -dave
[2001-06-12 09:05:00] - holy crap! 2.3 mil? - vinnie
[2001-06-12 09:04:00] - jdb: what entails a death penalty case? what do they have to do differently? -dave
[2001-06-12 09:04:00] - paul: so if the government "buys out" everyone for the remainder of their "terms" (lives), where does that money come from? (you are talking about an awful lot) -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:04:00] - paul: and the electric chair too. although i don't see how lethal injection can that expensive -dave
[2001-06-12 09:03:00] - "In Texas, a death penalty case costs taxpayers an average of $2.3 million, about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years." http://www.fnsa.org/v1n1/dieter1.html -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:03:00] - paul: actually, i think what i was told was that lethal injection costs a heck of a lot -dave
[2001-06-12 09:03:00] - jdb: Live off of the money they get from the government for their social security payback -paul
[2001-06-12 09:02:00] - dave: Agreed, but college students also are too stupid to handle credit cards, does that mean we should have a government run credit card program that is mandatory for all college students? -paul
[2001-06-12 09:02:00] - paul: so, if a person has been dependent on social security for X amount of time, what will they do in the future? -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:02:00] - dave: the cost thing is interesting - vinnie
[2001-06-12 09:01:00] - dave: Against, unless the prisoner asks for it -paul
[2001-06-12 09:01:00] - paul: the problem is, lotsa people are too stupid to make sure they're taken care of when they get old. and then they all start whining when they run out of money -dave
[2001-06-12 09:01:00] - dave: why? -jdb
[2001-06-12 09:01:00] - dave: If you are talking about death row inmates costing more then life imprisonment, I think you are right -paul
[2001-06-12 09:01:00] - without a doubt, undecided
- vinnie[2001-06-12 09:00:00] - i'm for it -dave
[2001-06-12 09:00:00] - jdb: Simple enough, you give people back the money they are owed under social security and then end the program -paul
[2001-06-12 08:59:00] - quick poll, who is for, against, or undecided on the death penalty? -dave
[2001-06-12 08:59:00] - jdb: shouldn't you forfeit your life if you are guilty of murder 1? -dave
[2001-06-12 08:59:00] - dewey: that is the heart of the decision. whether they forfeit all rights or whether there are some rights so fundamental, we can't deny them. but i'm not advocating abolishing death penalty. just pointing out the other side - vinnie
[2001-06-12 08:58:00] - vinnie: and if you're skeptical, i think other people than just aparna told me too. -dave
[2001-06-12 08:58:00] - dave: what is the "principle" that you speak of? -jdb
[2001-06-12 08:58:00] - vinnie: he/she decided to kill someone, so why can't we decided to kill them? - dewey
[2001-06-12 08:57:00] - vinnie: too bad aparna isn't online, i think she was one of the people who told me -dave
[2001-06-12 08:57:00] - wow. pretty colors. ~a
[2001-06-12 08:57:00] - vinnie: is what our decision? they gave up their rights to civilized behavior when they broke the civilization's rules. -dewey
[2001-06-12 08:57:00] - vinnie: i don't know what the numbers are, but i've been told a buncha times that it costs more to give him lethal injections than just let him live in prison. -dave
[2001-06-12 08:57:00] - paul: so what is your plan for getting people off of social security? or do you think you can just cut all of these things off ... all of a sudden? -jdb
[2001-06-12 08:56:00] - whoa, an absent aaron takes the lead - vinnie
[2001-06-12 08:56:00] - paul: even if it doesn't work well as a deterrent, shoudn't we have it there just on principle? -dave
[2001-06-12 08:56:00] - paul: what, you expect people to obey the laws out of the goodness of their hearts? You have to have a deterent. - dewey
[2001-06-12 08:55:00] - jdb: Social Security, war on drugs. -paul
[2001-06-12 08:55:00] - dave: are you serious? how much does lethal injection cost? or is this a metaphorical "cost"?
- vinnie[2001-06-12 08:54:00] - vinnie: i didn't stay to hear it all. but from what dewey said it sounds like he was a little -dave
[2001-06-12 08:54:00] - Prison, death penalty, and other results are supposed to be a deterent. As it is, people don't care cause in prison they get 3 meals a day, cable tv, and weight-room privlidges for free! Not to mention the networking possibilities - dewey
[2001-06-12 08:54:00] - dewey: Except I don't think the strategy of "deterrent" works too well... -paul
[2001-06-12 08:54:00] - paul: what do you suggest that they get rid of? public schools, right? what else? -jdb
[2001-06-12 08:53:00] - paul: i want government services. this isn't simply an issue of the government wasting my money -- if i don't give the government as much money, they are going to have to cut out some services that they provide to the public. -jdb
[2001-06-12 08:53:00] - dewey: is that our decision though? - vinnie
[2001-06-12 08:53:00] - dewey: the common response (not that i'm for eradicating the death penalty, just stating the other side) is that it takes more money to execute him than house him for the rest of his life -dave
[2001-06-12 08:53:00] - but seriously, it is like travolta said in "swordfish"- you scare the terorists so much that terrorism is unthinkable. - dewey
[2001-06-12 08:53:00] - dave: i certainly hope he wasn't doing anything silly there. or was he? - vinnie
[2001-06-12 08:52:00] - But seriously, it is like Travolta said in swordfish
[2001-06-12 08:51:00] - dave: I actually am working with my boss today so I won't get to comment on the message baord as much as I would like to -paul
[2001-06-12 08:51:00] - and if you ask me, it is more humane to kill someone painlessly than to allow him to get gang-butt-raped in prison for life. -dewey
[2001-06-12 08:51:00] - dewey: aha, thanks. so this feature just creates the link, not the text. can i still get it to say go to prevmonth or nextmonth? - vinnie
[2001-06-12 08:51:00] - dewey: you're out of luck, paul has returned to defend his title = ) -dave
[2001-06-12 08:50:00] - I feel the death penalty is a good thing. Why should we pay millions of dollars to house an inmate who has no chance for parole and has 4 life sentances? it is a waste of my money as a taxpayer. - dewey
[2001-06-12 08:50:00] - vinnie: yeah, i thought it was odd too. i mean, i know how they like to do all sorts of crazy odd things, but still, to an execution? -dave
[2001-06-12 08:50:00] - jdb: Do you think it is so wrong for people to decide how to spend their money rather then having the government spend it for them? -paul
[2001-06-12 08:49:00] - oh wow, no one's going to get any work done today then. unless for some odd reason everyone agrees -dave
[2001-06-12 08:48:00] - Vinnie: http://aporter.dhs.org/journalhelp.html has the format that your links should be in for your journal. - dewey
[2001-06-12 08:48:00] - jdb: I don't know if the government has overcharge you, but I know they have overcharged me and I want ym refund -paul
[2001-06-12 08:47:00] - he actually went to the execution? that's odd - vinnie
[2001-06-12 08:47:00] - dewey: start one. -jdb
[2001-06-12 08:47:00] - dave: yeah, but all he did was stand outside and talk to the people who kept sushing him while everyone else was being silent.
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