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[2004-05-24 11:04:12] - Aaron: Not even trying to be subtle, is it? -Paul
[2004-05-24 11:03:51] - aaron: hehe yeah, but I actually thought the article was pretty informative. Wasn't much stuff in there that could be slanted one way or another IMO. Just kinda reporting on what the twins' plans are now -dave
[2004-05-24 11:02:24] - Dave: Yeah, but I think I have a lot lower standards for the media than you, so it doesn't bother me as much.
-Paul[2004-05-24 11:02:11] - dave: "Jenna, whose degree is in English, will be following more in the footsteps of her librarian mother than her father, who often has trouble with the language in which his daughter majored" I think this makes the article's slant pretty clear - aaron
[2004-05-24 10:59:34] - Paul: well, I'd think you would still get my point (shrug) -dave
[2004-05-24 10:55:44] - Dave: Bad example, considering I already question anything the New York Times ever says.
-Paul[2004-05-24 10:52:20] - Paul: It's kinda like if you found out that the Bush administration funds 75% of the New York Times' budget. Seems like it would really bring into question anything they reported on / said -dave
[2004-05-24 10:51:02] - Paul: editorials are fine. I think it's just the thought of a political party actually funding a news instituation that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And like I said before, I can understand/accept it, just doesn't seem quite right -dave
[2004-05-24 10:45:40] - Dave: What do you think about editorials then?
-Paul[2004-05-24 10:41:20] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50537-2004May23.html Bush twins graduate...Air Force One helps to take belongings home -dave
[2004-05-24 10:40:48] - aaron: yeah...that's what it's listed in the unofficial spoiler as. I'm thinking they got it wrong somehow -dave
[2004-05-24 10:38:45] - dave: CC 2? You could cast that first turn with an artifact land. Maybe 7 or 8.... - aaron
[2004-05-24 10:36:04] - Paul: y'know, it seems kinda wrong for a newspaper to allow partisan ads for some reason. I mean practically I think it's understandable, but just seems wrong on a certain lvl -dave
[2004-05-24 10:35:08] - Paul: cmon, you know you want to donate to the Kerry campaign ^_^ -dave
[2004-05-24 10:34:43] - Dave: Hmmmm, ok. I'm not terribly inspired.
-Paul[2004-05-24 10:34:07] - Paul: Beats me, I think it's just a clever statement ($167 to send Bush home) and then a plea for money -dave
[2004-05-24 10:32:31] - Dave: I still don't get the ad.
I understand that it's anti-Bush and pro-Kerry, but what does an airplane ticket have to do with anything? -Paul[2004-05-24 10:32:23] - another MTG card (seems like they got the CC wrong for this card?) Mycosynth Golem, CC = 2, affinity, gives all other artifact creature cards affinity, 4/5 -dave
[2004-05-24 10:29:35] - Paul: ad -dave
[2004-05-24 10:29:20] - Paul: Oh, then the add asks you to donate $50 to the Kerry campaign -dave
[2004-05-24 10:28:51] - haha, MTG Card: Door to Nothingness: Artifact w/ CC 5, comes into play tapped, WWUUBBRRGG, Sac Door to Nothingness, target player loses game -dave
[2004-05-24 10:24:47] - Dave: I guess I'm missing the point of the ad then. Are they suggesting that you buy him a ticket home to Texas to be nice? -Paul
[2004-05-24 10:22:00] - travis: women may be included in the draft. Most interesting. -dave
[2004-05-24 10:19:59] - Paul: Him a ticket back to Texas ^_^ -dave
[2004-05-24 10:12:41] - Dave: What is $167 supposed to buy? -Paul
[2004-05-24 10:03:08] - http://motortrend.com/features/news/112_news23/ companies looking at turbochargers since they make cars more fuel efficient -dave
[2004-05-24 09:54:41] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/05/21/tanning.ban.ap/index.html California banning teens from tanning booths -dave
[2004-05-24 09:53:54] - http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=5834001&content_dir=ua_congressorg the draft is coming... - travis
[2004-05-24 09:50:37] - http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/23/news/international/spencer.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes pressure from US has prompted Saudi Arabia to increase oil output by 28% in June -dave
[2004-05-24 09:49:13] - hehe, there's an add on the washingtonpost that says, "It only costs $167.00 to buy Bush a ticket back home" -dave
[2004-05-24 09:43:43] - i don't think I have the attention span for pearls before swine. for a sunday strip, it always has a hell of a lot of words - vinnie
[2004-05-24 09:23:30] - travis: haha -dave
[2004-05-24 09:20:20] - http://comics.com/comics/pearls/archive/images/pearls2004052209163.jpg see, marriage can work
- travis[2004-05-24 09:14:32] - "These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake and then we run out and we are outraged, saying, 'The cops shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?" -dave
[2004-05-24 09:13:49] - "You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth!" -dave
[2004-05-24 09:13:35] - "They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is,' . . . and I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk. . . . " -dave
[2004-05-24 09:13:00] - "lower economic people are not holding up their end of the deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids - $500 sneakersfor what? And won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics" -dave
[2004-05-24 09:11:45] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46717-2004May21.html - go cosby -dave
[2004-05-24 08:39:31] - a: Decent spunk then ^_^ -dave
[2004-05-24 08:31:45] - dave: automatic 1.8L 130hp ~a
[2004-05-24 08:30:57] - a: manual transmission? -dave
[2004-05-24 08:30:13] - a: how much did it end up costing? -dave
[2004-05-24 08:29:59] - a: very spiffy ^_^ I hear those are good cars -dave
[2004-05-24 08:29:57] - and i paid about $1000 under dealer cost
~a[2004-05-24 08:29:38] - new toyota corolla. ~a
[2004-05-24 08:24:23] - a: a new one? what'd you get? -dave
[2004-05-24 08:18:10] - i have a car. ~a
[2004-05-24 07:52:38] - http://www.wftv.com/news/3328543/detail.html female employee finds webcam under her desk -dave
[2004-05-24 07:26:58] - Kate Beckinsdale commenting on rumors of "enhancements" - "My brother called me and said I should have got a size bigger." -dave
[2004-05-23 14:42:49] - you guys don't talk much on weekends! -kris
[2004-05-22 18:09:25] - 703 608 1997
[2004-05-21 17:13:05] - not me!
[2004-05-21 17:01:46] - who knows travis's cell number? ~a
[2004-05-21 16:52:09] - god, I'd hate to see who else was there... - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:45:39] - And it was still a stiff competition for Hayden Christensen. - pierce
[2004-05-21 16:44:31] - And the only people who stayed around were the actors who were so bad that The Phantom would reflect well on their resumes. - pierce
[2004-05-21 16:42:18] - maybe he changed everybody's practice script to read "The Phantom: Menace", and everyone was like "holy shit! I don't want to be in a Phantom sequel!" - pierce
[2004-05-21 16:41:34] - "this is my role! you guys gotta go" - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:41:01] - vinnie: actually... metaphorically, no. - pierce
[2004-05-21 16:40:47] - vinnie: metaphorically... - pierce
[2004-05-21 16:40:26] - oh, nm, you said he was the troubled teenager - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:40:25] - But yeah, he must've been having a great day at his Phantom Menace audition. - pierce
[2004-05-21 16:40:14] - pierce: was he the house? - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:39:39] - hayden christiansen wasn't so bad in Life as a House, but he wasn't great either and "troubled teenager" should almost be a "gimme" role. - pierce
[2004-05-21 16:39:13] - But I won't have time to read your response since I'm outta here! -Paul
[2004-05-21 16:38:38] - Travis: "do you think the content changes make the movies worse" -Paul
[2004-05-21 16:37:29] - they may have seen the same article - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:37:11] - alright then! I'm on board for Star Wars 3.0 - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:36:30] - this is so odd, debating star wars and especially bringing up hayden's suckage, because i was talking with a coworker earlier about that specific topic - travis
[2004-05-21 16:35:21] - vinnie: well, you should outlive him, so eventually he'll stop editing them
- travis[2004-05-21 16:35:10] - actually, he is, if what I read a while ago is true - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:34:54] - what if he went back and replaced hayden christensen with a better actor and eliminated jar-jar? i'd be for those changes
(seriously) - vinnie[2004-05-21 16:34:42] - is he gonna alter anakin's face when luke takes his mask off at the end of jedi? there's gonna be a lot of changes needed to make everything look the same, and if you don't go the entire way why go halfway? - travis
[2004-05-21 16:33:44] - let's say this: if I could be assured there'd be a definitive version after all of his changes, then I wouldn't care about the constant revisions - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:33:10] - paul: what question would i answer "it depends" to? of course i'd have to answer "it depends" to the question of whether or not changes make a movie better, but in the particular case of star wars i don't think they have much value - travis
[2004-05-21 16:32:41] - I kind of agree with you, but only because I think it's be too annoying sifting through version after version of a movie. but in principle, I really have no problem with lucas' constant update of the old movies. if you believe him, it was envisioned as one story, so it makes sense for it all to look the same - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:31:37] - and regarding lucas vs principle, i can't think of any other director's that have done stuff like this, so it's hard to separate my opinion - travis
[2004-05-21 16:29:21] - i know the special edition should thus count as the director's cut, but then again 99% of movies don't need a director's cut - travis
[2004-05-21 16:28:10] - i'd say the director gets one shot to alter the original (a director's cut), but then stop. i can sympathize with lucas somewhat because some of the stuff he added/changed couldn't have been done without current special effects - travis
[2004-05-21 16:25:50] - are you against the principle or just lucas in particular? - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:25:22] - i probably wouldn't mind these changes as much if lucas would also release an untouched original version on dvd - travis
[2004-05-21 16:25:15] - Vinnie: It seems like Travis' answer would be "it depends"
-Paul[2004-05-21 16:25:15] - travis: haha, are you trying to prove my point bringing up "Italian Job"?
[2004-05-21 16:24:29] - i'm more against changing the content, like adding the silly jabba scene and these new edits - travis
[2004-05-21 16:24:25] - do you think the content changes make the movies worse? I think some of them make them better - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:23:33] - it's like why i don't understand why they remake some movies, especially ones like willy wonka, although others, like the italian job, do a good job of modernizing the original - travis
[2004-05-21 16:23:19] - ok, so at least you didn't have a problem with fixing up the FX in the special edition? because a lot of people did - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:21:40] - i just don't get why he makes all these changes in the first place. sure, fix up the audio/video quality to modern standards but beyond that, leave the content alone - travis
[2004-05-21 16:21:38] - significant change, that is - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:21:19] - and what if a change affects the movie for the better? I can think of a billion movies where I would have liked specific changes - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:19:58] - ones - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:19:53] - travis: my point isn't the degree to which something is changed, it's just that I'm surprised so many people take offense to lucas changing his movies. did adding a fly-by cgi scene really affect star wars? maybe that greedo scene does change things significantly, but I was wondering whether you are taking offense to any change he makes or specific
[2004-05-21 16:14:08] - vinnie: i thought remastering an album just meant cleaning up the noise and such, not adding/altering the actual notes - travis
[2004-05-21 16:11:50] - Pierce: In response to your real point, I was more just talking about how a game patch can alter the fundamentals of a game beyond just fixing it the same way movie changes can alter the fundamentals of the characters in a movie. -Paul
[2004-05-21 16:10:38] - Pierce: I'm impressed that you even know those names. I do think, though, that there was some romantic tension between those two. Was I the only one who noticed that? I'm not kidding btw.
-Paul[2004-05-21 16:09:51] - Dave: Hehe, I know. Hence the
-Paul[2004-05-21 16:09:34] - Vinnie: Yeah, it was just the impression I got. I always got the impression Han was a good guy in smuggler clothing, so he wouldn't do something like that. -Paul
[2004-05-21 16:08:49] - but things like remastering on CDs I really don't have a problem with. generally I assume that the artist is making changes because they didn't get everything right the first time - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:07:56] - Paul: but none of the starcraft patches made it so that, say, kerrigan and raynor were lovers or anything. - pierce
[2004-05-21 16:07:39] - paul: small? one just tries to ship illegal stuff, the other hunts people down and kills them
-dave[2004-05-21 16:07:26] - but he eventually turns out that way. it's a fine line with him. i'd need to see the movie again to see how it affects things. but the anakin change is the one I really don't have a problem with, except that he'd probably be older - vinnie
[2004-05-21 16:06:50] - Dave: Yeah, I think you're right. Small difference.
-Paul[2004-05-21 16:06:35] - Aaron: Right, I agree that it definitely changes his character. It's just that in my mind, Greedo shooting first fits more into my perception of how he acts. Han may have been a bounty hounter, but he never really acted like it in the movies IMHO. -Paul
[2004-05-21 16:06:03] - aaron: bounty hunter? I thought he was a smuggler? -dave
[2004-05-21 16:03:50] - paul: Greedo shooting first does kind of hurt Han's character a little I think though. Han's not supposed to be some good guy who only fights people in self-defense, i mean he's a bounty hunter for crying out loud - aaron
[2004-05-21 15:59:55] - Travis: I agree with you, but there are times when I believe game patches are like movie changes. For instance, some of the Starcraft patches have altered strategies of the game and has heavily affected how it is played. -Paul
[2004-05-21 15:59:12] - that was a joke. we can go with "remastering" if you prefer - vinnie
[2004-05-21 15:56:43] - it's also a case of "it's not broke, why the hell are you fixing it?" - travis
[2004-05-21 15:56:11] - patching a game fixes gameplay balance and system crashes, changing stuff like who shot first changes characterization - travis
[2004-05-21 15:54:38] - "warcraft ii was much better when it crashed occasionally. the patches ruined it." - vinnie
[2004-05-21 15:53:15] - haha, heard about this a while ago, thought it was a joke. shockingly, I agree with paul. I don't really mind changes like that at all, although all the separate versions might confuse the hell outta people - vinnie
[2004-05-21 15:46:03] - Travis: Same, I never really noticed who shot first and honestly, it seems to work better if Greedo shoots first but the fans seem to like the more ruthless Han so... -Paul
[2004-05-21 15:43:33] - paul: what about the change where greedo shoots han first? i've never actually been too clear on that one since i didn't pay much attention to the special editions, so i don't know the details on that one - travis
[2004-05-21 15:40:58] - I personally don't mind changes like that (there is another where the emporer is replaced by the actor that plays him in the new movies) but I can see how it could outrage a lot of people. -Paul
[2004-05-21 15:40:20] - well, just another reason to dig out my VHS tapes and convert them to DVD instead of buying that excuse of a DVD set lucas is releasing - travis
[2004-05-21 15:38:08] - Eh. It's not uncharacteristic of the way Lucas has treated this franchise. It's not even that bad, but I think Lucas doesn't realize the effects that these changes have upon peoples' fond memories of the original movies. - pierce
[2004-05-21 15:34:14] - oh no! - aaron
[2004-05-21 15:31:51] - http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html Interesting picture in the second entry. -Paul
[2004-05-21 15:16:18] - Paul: that's my guess too, but just in case I'm wrong I wanted to point that out. - pierce
[2004-05-21 15:14:49] - Pierce: I would guess most people who would want to see Shrek 2 have already seen the first one. -Paul
[2004-05-21 15:10:41] - oh, earlier, by "look who's coming to dinner" I mean "guess who's coming to dinner", with Sidney Poitier. - pierce
[2004-05-21 15:09:03] - by the way, I assume that everyone who wants to see Shrek 2 has already seen Shrek 1, right? Because Shrek 2 doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless you've seen the first one. - pierce
[2004-05-21 14:16:27] - Vinnie: Sorry
-Paul[2004-05-21 14:16:02] - paul: ruin the double-entredre, why don't cha - vinnie
[2004-05-21 14:12:40] - Pierce: Literally?
-Paul[2004-05-21 14:08:49] - My salary is shit, though. - pierce
[2004-05-21 14:07:18] - My stomach is my boss too! - pierce
[2004-05-21 14:06:22] - Aaron: I guess that would make more sense, huh? -Paul
[2004-05-21 14:05:02] - paul: I was thinking more, "install some software" = "eat some food", and "boss" = "stomach" - aaron
[2004-05-21 14:02:52] - I've gotta go "install some software", if you know what I mean.
-Paul[2004-05-21 14:02:31] - Pierce: Her boss has installed a communication device in her stomach that grumbles when he needs her to install software for him. -Paul
[2004-05-21 14:02:15] - pierce: It's a euphamism. - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:59:41] - Mel: I don't think that's a traditional cure for the munchies... - pierce
[2004-05-21 13:58:09] - I guess at least she wasn't drinking alcohol to calm her nerves.
-Paul[2004-05-21 13:57:25] - vinnie: yes, we are, I can hear my stomach grumbling. I'll be right back, I have to go install some software for my boss. -mel
[2004-05-21 13:57:14] - Vinnie: Enjoy your lunch. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:56:44] - Paul: I thought so too.
-mel[2004-05-21 13:56:25] - anyway, I need to go eat lunch. we're approaching mel's lunchtime here - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:56:21] - Mel: That's funny on two levels.
-Paul[2004-05-21 13:56:07] - perhaps if I hadn't liked Alien that much but liked military movies (Aliens)? - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:55:32] - http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,---21574,00.html olsen accident -mel
[2004-05-21 13:54:53] - I have to admit, it's very tough coming up with an example of a movie I didn't really like too much where the plot of the equally stylish sequel made me want to see it. but I still think it can happen - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:53:41] - Paul: On the radio this morning they were saying thet Mary Kate was in an accident on the 101 freeway in CA. Photographers were chasing her and her boyguard, who was tailgating her, hit her car. They were making fun of the fact that every news report includes the fact that she drank a diet dr. pepper to calm her nerves. -mel
[2004-05-21 13:52:31] - Well, now I don't need to see Shrek 2. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:51:12] - (hint: It's Shrek)
- pierce[2004-05-21 13:50:51] - Paul: no, not taking the place of john lithgow. I'm not going to tell you who does, though, because it would be kind of a spoiler. - pierce
[2004-05-21 13:49:07] - Pierce: Taking the place of John Lithgow? -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:48:54] - Yeah, I saw almost no similarity between QotD and IwtV, including style, actors, plot. The only similarities were the name, and the fact that there were vampires in it. - pierce
[2004-05-21 13:47:18] - And I originally was skeptical of it because the trailer made the Puss-in-Boots character look indredibly annoying, but I didn't find it annoying at all in the actual movie. It helped that Antonio Banderas is an excellent actor to get for super-duper over-the-top lines. - pierce
[2004-05-21 13:47:07] - Vinnie: How much of a sequel is Queen of the Damned, though? It seems like it has too many differences for it to qualify. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:45:34] - on shrek 2: the beginning is a little slow, but it picks up a lot and it's never dull. the plot of the first one was cliched, but that wasn't a bad thing because it was partially a self-conscious parody of that cliche (like Scream). The plot of the second one is essentially "Shrek 1" meets "Look Who's Coming to Dinner". - pierce
[2004-05-21 13:43:21] - ...see a sequel of a movie I really like regardless of the ads - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:42:59] - Paul: "Queen of the Damned" is a good example for me, which I realize you may not have seen. Ads were so-so, and I didn't like "Interview With the Vampire", but the plot really sold it. sounded much more interesting then "Interview". it really comes into play for me when I don't really care for the original, because I'm almost always gonna...
[2004-05-21 13:35:34] - Vinnie: I guess I just can't think of an instance where the plot of a sequal really had much of an impact on whether or not I saw it. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:34:59] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040521 I found about a third of these amusing. Also, the Olsens DO look hideously thin in this picture. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:34:24] - paul: true. plot of sequels do matter too, though admittedly not as much as an original movie. I'll try to come up with an instance where the plot of a sequel really sold it to me - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:32:54] - vinnie: I'm sorry I dropped the ball. Maybe we can get together tomorrow and swap then. - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:32:08] - Vinnie: I'm talking about sequels here, though, not original movies. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:30:53] - aaron: if it's too much trouble to go home, don't worry about it - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:30:30] - I think a good plot makes it much easier to have a good movie. If there isn't a plot, or one that isn't good, then the movie has to prove itself through some other means (which some do) -dave
[2004-05-21 13:29:14] - The commercial for "white chicks" had more funny jokes than the commercials for Shrek - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:28:30] - paul: Cmon, think of the jokes from the commercial. Hairball? Fart joke? Very very lazy jokes to write. - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:27:45] - paul: plot really doesn't matter to you? you didn't want to see girl next door after hearing the plot? like I said below, I agree that jokes matter more in a comedy, but plot definitely factors into it for me - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:27:06] - Paul: The ads convey more than just the plot though. -mel
[2004-05-21 13:25:08] - Vinnie: I guess I just don't understand why hearing the plot makes you more interested in seeing it. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:25:07] - vinnie: I'll have to go home before I show up for basketball, but I'll bring the CDs. I can't believe I forgot - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:24:27] - Mel: True, but if I heard the plot to Shrek 2 really was just them sitting around the house, I still think I would go see it because I don't know if the plot really says anything about how good a movie is. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:24:15] - yes, and like mel said, sequels often need to prove themselves more to me via ad, because I usually find them worse - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:23:37] - vinnie: Booooo - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:23:20] - paul: but what if, like me, you only thought the original was enjoyable but not great? then maybe it matters? - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:22:48] - Paul: but sequels are so often siginificantly worse than the original. -mel
[2004-05-21 13:22:01] - I liked the first, so I figured I would like the second. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:21:41] - Vinnie: I dunno, I guess I really don't need the commercials to tell me the plot of a sequel in order for me to want to see it. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:20:21] - I'm willing to bet fiona's parents getting upset happens within ten minutes - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:19:52] - paul: but that much plot? if I'd seen that on the ads, I'd've been more willing to see it - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:19:49] - Vinnie: That sounds dirty. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:18:30] - mel: in case you haven't: http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/perrault04.html - travis
[2004-05-21 13:18:26] - travis: vaguely... I don't really remember the plot, but I have heard of it. -mel
[2004-05-21 13:18:22] - shrek doesn't seem like he would taste good, so I'm not too surprised - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:17:58] - Vinnie: The plot hasn't been spelled out in the ads I don't think, which I actually like because I hate it when ads give too much away. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:17:55] - or the adam ant song? (remember, aaron, CDs) - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:17:47] - don't try the Baskin & Robbins shrek sherbert. it is the worst ice cream I have ever tried. I had to throw it away. Its a blend of apple (green) and grape (purple) with some sort of weird sprinkles. -mel
[2004-05-21 13:17:30] - Mel: No problem. -Pau
[2004-05-21 13:17:22] - mel: you've never heard the fairy tale about Puss in Boots? - travis
[2004-05-21 13:16:51] - paul: sorry, the L in your name accidentally got pusheed over so it was after Travis' name. -mel
[2004-05-21 13:16:16] - they really hire a character named Puss in Boots?? No way, what a name. -mel
[2004-05-21 13:16:04] - paul: then I've either been watching the wrong ads or not paying enough attention to them - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:15:35] - I agree with Pau + Travisl. I liked the Donkey in Shrek. I was amused. -mel
[2004-05-21 13:15:20] - http://movies.go.com/movies/S/shrek2_2002/index.html -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:14:43] - Vinnie: It's about Fiona's family disapproving of her marriage to Shrek so they hire Puss-in-boots to break them up. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:14:12] - Vinnie: Well that's why you didn't want to see Shrek 2 then, you have no sense of taste.
-Paul[2004-05-21 13:13:55] - it had a plot. rescue the princess. I was saying that it's a simple, worn-out plot but still a plot. shrek 2 has what? them living at home? I can't tell if it's about anything - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:13:02] - heh, I'm in full agreement with aaron on this. donkey = more annoying than funny except for a couple of lines - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:13:01] - Travis: I haven't seen Mulan, but I don't seem to find Eddie Murphy nearly as annoying as the general populace does. I liked him in Shrek also. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:12:17] - Wait, I think somehow I'm getting misunderstood here. My point was that Shrek was good even though it barely had any plot. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:11:50] - aaron: aww, eddie murphy annoying? donkey was my favorite part of the first shrek and i loved him as the dragon in mulan - travis
[2004-05-21 13:11:43] - obv "has NO plot" means my impression from ads - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:11:17] - I have no problem with worn-out plots if the jokes are good. princess bride was like that (and indeed was a bit like shrek). but shrek 2 has NO plot. anyway, my bigger problem was the lack of good jokes on the ads - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:10:37] - paul: What about Finding Nemo? That had way less plot in my opinion than Shrek - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:09:57] - paul: Well, it had a few other themes. Ignoring surface beauty/ugliness, cross-species relationships can work, uhh, eddie murphy is really annoying... a lot of good morals - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:09:42] - Dave: I loved it. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:09:19] - Paul: Did you like Shrek? -dave
[2004-05-21 13:08:29] - Aaron: But Shrek's was not only possibly the most overused plot ever, but it also didn't have much beyond that. -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:08:15] - aaron: yes! I loved that movie for its sparkling diatribe on the emergence of stoner culture in the 00's - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:07:24] - clerks, probably. arguably adaptation - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:07:09] - vinnie: Dude where's my car! - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:06:50] - paul: Oh please, any movie can be summarized with (pronoun) (verb)ed the (noun) - aaron
[2004-05-21 13:06:21] - <aaron thinking...>
[2004-05-21 13:06:10] - I wonder if I've ever enjoyed a movie without a plot. Clerks maybe? -Paul
[2004-05-21 13:04:34] - vinnie: What's the last movie you enjoyed that had no plot? I will have to think- aaron
[2004-05-21 13:04:25] - Vinnie: And the original movie was plotty? He rescued the princess and....?
-Paul[2004-05-21 13:02:25] - aaron: exactly. shrek shaves and fiona shaves! donkey says something dumb! it just seemed very non-plotty, though from what I can figure out of the reviews, the movie is partly based on that non-plottiness - vinnie
[2004-05-21 13:01:59] - Travis: Yeah, it's one of those amazing statistics. Kinda like how Phil Jackson could be the coach with the most championships in ANY major professional american sport if he wins this year. -Paul
[2004-05-21 12:59:47] - "For the first time since 1993, neither Robert Horry nor Steve Kerr will be winning a championship ring this spring." wow, i didn't realize that streak was that long - travis
[2004-05-21 12:59:05] - The shrek 2 commercials made it look revolting to me. Commercials usually express some kind of conflict that the characters get into - aaron
[2004-05-21 12:58:19] - vinnie: You mean the one where they go to burger king? Or the one where Shrek grabs a gamecube controller and moves the donkey around - aaron
[2004-05-21 12:58:05] - Minnie: Just be like me and decide whether or not you want to see a movie and stubbornly stick with it no matter what others say. And I thought the Shrek 2 commercials made it look good.
-Paul[2004-05-21 12:56:23] - yeah, exactly. I thought the ads for the movie looked like shit, frankly - vinnie
[2004-05-21 12:56:04] - "They're high in protein, low in fat, no carbs," said Gene Kritsky, a biologist and cicada expert at the College of Mount St. Joseph in Cincinnati, Ohio. "They're quite nutritious, a good set of vitamins." -mel
[2004-05-21 12:55:15] - paul: well, how can I really make a judgment call without actually seeing it? -mel
[2004-05-21 12:55:13] - yeah, some girl apparently had a recipe for them, and it sounded like a couple people used stuff like hot sauce - travis
[2004-05-21 12:54:33] - Minnie: You two, relying on others to tell you whether or not to see a movie. You should have your own opinions.
-Paul[2004-05-21 12:53:51] - Travis: btw, did you get my email about Shrek 2? -Paul
[2004-05-21 12:53:35] - vinnie: I wasn't really planning on seeing it either. but I've been hearing good things, so I might go see it now. -mel
[2004-05-21 12:53:23] - Travis: Hide one in one of those donuts I gave you and offer it to a girl.
-Paul[2004-05-21 12:49:51] - I didn't want to see shrek 2 until I read the reviews. almost unanimously positive, just like the first one. but I'll probably end up seeing it on DVD - vinnie
[2004-05-21 12:49:01] - travis: yeah, did they cook them?? -mel
[2004-05-21 12:48:30] - travis: That would be less expensive than bringing my lunch. Let me know. - aaron
[2004-05-21 12:48:17] - cooked, I hope? - vinnie
[2004-05-21 12:48:00] - paul: hells no! - travis
[2004-05-21 12:47:43] - Travis: Gonna try one yourself?
-Paul[2004-05-21 12:46:41] - i'll let people know if cicadas are poisonous to people (from miguel's journal comments) on monday if my co-workers who just ate some are dead
- travis[2004-05-21 12:45:12] - Aaron: I'm probably going to plan a group to go see it sometime Saturday afternoon, I just haven't gotten around to sending out an email yet. -Paul
[2004-05-21 12:44:40] - aaron: logical? thats an interesting adjective with respect to movies...
-mel[2004-05-21 12:43:41] - I want to see it. Pierce liked it and he is a logical person when it comes to movies. - aaron
[2004-05-21 12:42:38] - Paul: ok, thanks. Its probably funny. -mel
[2004-05-21 12:41:13] - Mel: Pierce said it was pretty good and I heard from another friend (Tim) that it was good also. -Paul
[2004-05-21 12:39:47] - hey, have you guys heard anythign about shrek 2? when I drove in this morning, the people on the radio were saying it was good. -mel
[2004-05-21 12:39:36] - Mel: Dammit, so you're going to ask permission to my writings as well?
-Paul[2004-05-21 12:33:57] - Paul: I keep trying to check those section out, but they don't work yet. so that seems pretty self-explanatory. -mel
[2004-05-21 12:33:46] - Mel: I think schools make money off the machines themselves since they sell the soda for more than they buy it for. -Paul
[2004-05-21 12:33:10] - Aaron: Or hell, I could've named it Bio or Writings, since nobody has asked about those. -Paul
[2004-05-21 12:30:54] - paul: or License Agreement - aaron
[2004-05-21 12:30:42] - That would keep them away. -paul
[2004-05-21 12:30:34] - "naked pictures of me"
-Paul[2004-05-21 12:30:10] - Aaron: Yeah, I guess naming it "personal" just makes people curious as to what I'm hiding. I should've called it "my thoughts on marriage" or "a defense of anarcho capitalism"
-Paul[2004-05-21 12:29:12] - Aaron: There's a number of reasons why I am against it and that's one of them. The funny thing is that most adults would make the same decision as the kids would.
-Paul[2004-05-21 12:29:10] - aaron: what is the benefit of having soda machines in schools? Do Coke and Pepsi give the schools money? -mel
[2004-05-21 12:28:47] - paul: hehe
you should name the tab something more innocuous, like "administrative" or "syscp32" - aaron[2004-05-21 12:28:20] - Paul: cool. -mel
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