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[2004-05-26 08:06:05] - quite bizarre why it wasn't called. -dave

[2004-05-26 08:03:42] - anyone see madsen trying to foul shaq last night when the ref wouldn't call it? Was pretty amusing. -dave

[2004-05-25 17:28:11] - http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=5241567 shrek 2 beat return of the king for biggest mid-week release and came second to spider-man for biggest opening weekend - travis

[2004-05-25 16:41:42] - "A college student needing money agrees to "babysit" a blind man, but the job is not at all what he anticipated." pretty close to your explanation, dave http://imdb.com/title/tt0105323/ - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:40:20] - vinnie: great explanation, I know :-) -dave

[2004-05-25 16:39:43] - vinnie: I've actually only seen part of it. Pacino is a retired blind military guy I think. And the movie is about this younger guy who has to spend some time with him for some reason. -dave

[2004-05-25 16:38:44] - scent of a woman is where "hoo-hah!" came from :-) and al pacino did win the best actor oscar for his role - travis

[2004-05-25 16:37:52] - dave: ah.  I just didn't know about it then.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:37:40] - dave: yeah, but I really don't know what it's about, unlike Godfather which I know is about a Godfather and Taxi Driver which is about a Taxi Driver. Is SOAW really about just that? - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:37:24] - vinnie: I think the scene in it where Pacino (who is blind) tangos with the girl is really famous, like the scene in Godfather where he kisses the guy on the mouth -dave

[2004-05-25 16:36:23] - vinnie: yeah, I think it's a pretty "famous" movie as far as films go -dave

[2004-05-25 16:36:17] - yes, he either won or was nominated for it.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:35:49] - mel: hahaha, yeah, I'll tell my brother it's by the same guy that did Gigli and then he'll stop trying to make me watch it - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:34:53] - I think Al Pacino even won an Oscar for it, but I might be wrong - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:34:49] - vinnie: I am always surprised because I can never remember info like that.    :-) -mel

[2004-05-25 16:34:07] - i'm not usually surprised when people know bits of trivia like that. I know tons of little dorky things like that. my brain seems set up to remember them - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:33:17] - vinnie: thats even funnier!!  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:32:59] - oh well I guess he got nominated for Best Director for Scent of a Woman.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:32:39] - my brother is always trying to get me to watch it, but I don't know much about it - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:31:39] - vinnie: haha!!  I know.  Has anyone seen that?  Is that a well known movie?  I was talking to my sister-in-law about Gigli and she said "oh!  directed by the same guy who directed Scent of a woman!"  who knows info like that??  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:30:17] - *crosses Scent of a Woman off the list* - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:29:25] - Gigli was written and directed by Martin Brest.  He also directed Scent of a Woman.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:29:16] - Amy wasn't even a lesbian. just a girl that had more "experience" than Silent Bob - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:28:43] - vinnie: yeah, I remember that... it's Alyssa or something, right?  And Amy was the name of the lesbian that silent bob fell in love with?  I thought that was fairly lame. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:27:39] - vinnie: but wasn't the problem that they just didn't have a personal chemistry, not that she was unable to be attrracted to guys in general? - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:26:13] - vinnie: hehe, fall out of love. That just seems wrong somehow -dave

[2004-05-25 16:25:55] - I was actually reading the script for chasing amy the other day and I forgot that the main girl's name isn't amy! - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:25:23] - no, I guess it does, just that she falls out of love with him - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:24:44] - pierce: except it didn't really work in the end of chasing amy - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:24:14] - dave: it was!  haha.  that was a redeeming moment. from a humorous perspective.    -mel

[2004-05-25 16:23:36] - vinnie: yeah, similar to chasing amy but not as good.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:23:27] - mel: haha, that's so amusing -dave

[2004-05-25 16:23:16] - vinnie: maybe he was heartened by the fact that it worked in Chasing Amy. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:23:13] - chasing amy, which I kinda referred to a few posts back. but I hadn't thought at the time that both movies starred ben affleck! - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:22:50] - dave: well actually they toiuched on that a little in the movie.  Traditionally it means you're really good.  But in Gigli they made the point that maybe it means you are way too much like the other gender.  J Lo says she found the "woman" she was looking for.  And she's refering to Ben...    -mel

[2004-05-25 16:22:38] - the ads for gigli really underplayed that aspect too - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:22:26] - vinnie: what was the other one? -dave

[2004-05-25 16:21:36] - so that makes two movies where ben affleck falls in love with a lesbian? now that's strange - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:21:06] - mel: so if you are able to "turn" a gay or lesbian, does that mean you're extremely good, or just way too much like the other sex, heh heh -dave

[2004-05-25 16:20:58] - dave: well, you don't really need to know the details to say if it looks good or not. rather than being able to pinpoint your problem, you'd just think it looks bad or good - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:20:47] - by the way, j lo is a really bad lesbian.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:20:06] - vinnie: see, I think the reason I liked LXG and you didn't was because I know nothing about the technical details. I'm just like, ooo, that looked spiffy -dave

[2004-05-25 16:19:54] - vinnie:  yes!  I didn't know that she was a lesbian either.  so he's trying to get her to like him anyway.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:19:02] - dave: I know.  :-)  what a ridiculous idea, right??  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:18:56] - amazon needs shorter urls. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:18:43] - Pierce: ahh, yeah, it can get expensive buying books -dave

[2004-05-25 16:18:40] - dave: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451452011/qid=1085516491/sr=8-7/ref=pd_ka_7/102-1047924-9317743?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451452313/qid=1085516491/sr=8-9/ref=pd_ka_9/102-1047924-9317743?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:18:16] - Pierce: I must be a bigger once since I've probably read 80% of all the famous fantasy/adventure series. -dave

[2004-05-25 16:17:48] - not just bizarre, but just really badly done. I think they used very poor textures - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:17:39] - But I don't really read a lot of new stuff. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:17:31] - pierce: Red Dwarf books? -dave

[2004-05-25 16:17:10] - she's a lesbian in the movie? "chasing gigli"? - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:17:04] - vinnie: hehe, the submarine WAS rather bizarre -dave

[2004-05-25 16:17:01] - I'm a big nerd.  In case you didn't know that. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:16:57] - I find myself rereading my favorites a lot (especially Orson Scott Card and Isaac Asimov novels, the Hitchhiker's Guide "trilogy", and the Red Dwarf books). - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:16:40] - vinnie: I think you're right.  I was wondering if they were involved in the script at all. -mel

[2004-05-25 16:16:39] - pierce: yeah, I thought how they brought all those unique characters together was interesting. and the effects were nice -dave

[2004-05-25 16:16:24] - I thought LXG's visuals looked very out-of-date, especially that horrendous looking submarine. again, amusing, but unintentionally - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:16:09] - mel: haha, I didn't know she was supposed to be a lesbian -dave

[2004-05-25 16:15:38] - vinnie: ahh, that's true. I read all your M.Y.T.H. books :-) -dave

[2004-05-25 16:15:26] - dave: well I used to me a long time ago.  before all those problem sets.  :-P  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:15:06] - dave: I don't know if I'd call myself avid, but I read a fair bit - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:14:51] - vinnie: I thought LXG was stylistically impressive, especially the way Mr. Hyde was done.  Waaay over the top, but I still liked it.  (much better than Van Helsing's Mr. Hyde, IMO) - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:14:45] - dave: even the emdb plot sounds bad:  "A lowly thug falls in love with the lesbian who is sent to oversee his abduction job."  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:14:39] - dave: I think ben/j-lo probably thought they could carry any movie - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:14:34] - wow, so no one is an avid reader like myself? Aha! Travis is. Ok, so I'm not alone -dave

[2004-05-25 16:13:57] - b-but books are our friends!! - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:13:41] - pierce: I'm really enjoying it, except I keep feeling pangs of fear because I see waaay too much of myself.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:13:39] - mel: I guess that just really shows how important it is for actors/actresses to pick their projects well. A few bad choices and your career really takes a beating -dave

[2004-05-25 16:12:56] - vinnie:  well this is my first post-college book.  :-)  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:12:15] - dave: Definitely a bad script.  Bad acting too, but the script had such silly lines that it's hard to imagine how it would have been acted well.  Who wote/produced/directed that movie??  I should find out...  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:12:07] - I've already read it too, and quite enjoyed it. I know even aaron's read it and he's read like 5 books ever outside of school - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:11:09] - Mel: Yay!!!  I love that book, as you already know. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:11:03] - mel: haha, user interface problem -dave

[2004-05-25 16:11:01] - so anyway, I recommend Microserfs.  Parts of several chapters are online.  Never seen the movie you guys are talking about.  :-P  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:10:13] - "It's like male geeks don't know how to deal with real live women, so they just assume it's a user interface problem. Not their fault."  This is a auote from Microserfs, which I started reading it.  It is a really quality read.  (recommended by Pierce).  It has me laughing out loud and then shuddering becaise I see myself in the characters.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:09:29] - vinnie: I thought it was a decent adventure film. Not like a great movie or anything, but a fun thing to go see -dave

[2004-05-25 16:09:10] - I mean, I found LXG entertaining, but not in any way intentionally good - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:08:27] - dave: yeah, that's unlucky.  but it's unlucky because perl syntax is an affront to good taste. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:08:24] - - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:08:24] - mel: so was it just a bad script? bad acting too? -dave

[2004-05-25 16:08:19] - pierce: haha.  I don't know about that..  I like perl's syntax.  Thanks for the IDE suggestions.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:07:55] - davrce: what did you all like about it? (and how come I thought everyone agreed with me on how bad it was?)

[2004-05-25 16:07:35] - vinnie: Well, given my already low expectations, I am a little surprised that Gigli didn't even meet that.  the plot was ridiculous, it was hard to believe that anyone thought it could be good.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:07:32] - perl's syntax is an affront to good taste. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:07:15] - pierce: bizarre feature - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:07:07] - pierce: I'm unlucky since I'm trying to decipher a Perl module without knowing almost anything about Perl -dave

[2004-05-25 16:06:36] - dave: consider yourself lucky. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:06:17] - vinnie: awww, I thought the LoEG was decent :-) -dave

[2004-05-25 16:06:07] - vinnie: aww, I liked LXG (or more specifically, I thought it was a lot better than it got credit for) - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:06:00] - boo, how come everyone knows perl and I don't. -dave

[2004-05-25 16:05:01] - mel: are you surprised? it looked awful, and not the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen kind of awful - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:03:24] - mel: I use activeperl too.  Also, look into "Open Perl IDE" on sourceforge.net for a good IDE for it (with debugging!) - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:03:12] - vinnie: I saw Gigli last night.  Rented it from Blockbuster for the (anticipated) comic value.  It wasn't even funny, just really really boring.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:02:49] - aaron: it's just about the least usable "feature" in a microsoft product, and that is saying something. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:02:25] - aaron: If you select "move", and then hit an arrow key, it moves the window.  Then, if you move the mouse, the window will attach to the mouse cursor without dragging and be placed whereever you click. - pierce

[2004-05-25 16:02:17] - vinnie: cool, thanks.  I think I'll do that too.  -mel

[2004-05-25 16:01:40] - or used, since it's not on my new windows machine - vinnie

[2004-05-25 16:01:19] - mel: activeperl is what I use - vinnie

[2004-05-25 15:59:30] - a: whats the best way to code in perl using a windows box?  I haven't before and now I need to.  should I download activeperl? -mel

[2004-05-25 15:58:19] - mig: cool story about the "forest family."  thats a pretty sad statement for the state of public education though,  -mel

[2004-05-25 15:57:16] - aaron: definitely a useless option  -mel

[2004-05-25 15:52:23] - aaron: hmmm, I never noticed that option, but you're right. doesn't seem to do anything - vinnie

[2004-05-25 15:50:16] - What is the point of the "move" option, when you right click an item on the Windows toolbar? I thought, maybe it would help move a window if the top of it was offscreen, but nooo.... All it does is move your mouse to the top of that window (if visible...) and do nothing - aaron

[2004-05-25 15:46:37] - http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1845416#post1845416 I know most of you guys aren't into hardware, but here's some internal nVidia slides on ATIs latest video card -dave

[2004-05-25 15:46:30] - Think of all the dentists that would go out of  business without Coca-Cola - aaron

[2004-05-25 15:40:42] - aaron: yeah, she must not have had enough sugar -dave

[2004-05-25 15:40:10] - The girl had no cavities? That sounds like a severe medical condition - aaron

[2004-05-25 15:30:11] - of course, in that case both parents had PhD's, so it was a little different :-) - travis

[2004-05-25 15:29:34] - hehe, reminds me vaguely of mean girls where the main girl lives with her parents in the fields of africa and is still super smart when they come back to the states - travis

[2004-05-25 15:23:41] - twas a joke - vinnie

[2004-05-25 15:21:23] - i do believe it is illegal until you're 15, and i think you need government permission until you're 16 in virginia at least. - mig

[2004-05-25 15:13:52] - vinnie: she's only 12 years old, isn't it illegal for her to work? -dave

[2004-05-25 15:04:49] - if the girl gets a job, then I'll be convinced - vinnie

[2004-05-25 15:00:54] - mig: or more properly, why aren't we all homeschooled :-p -dave

[2004-05-25 14:57:26] - mig:  ah.  why do you have typos?  why aren't you using copy/paste?  ~a

[2004-05-25 14:56:56] - mig: 404.  ~a

[2004-05-25 14:56:23] - http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=67497 bah, damn typos. - mig

[2004-05-25 14:54:53] - http://www.katu.org/news/story.asp?ID=67497 who needs public education?  You can learn more by living in the trees. - mig

[2004-05-25 14:51:27] - a: Some guy said that his Inline::Octave module used stdin/stdout pipes to do this. So i'm trying to figure out either how to do it myself, or how to use this module to do it -dave

[2004-05-25 14:50:33] - a: I'm trying to use Octave (which is run in Cygwin) to simulate some motor dynamics, but it needs to be controlled from a windows process -dave

[2004-05-25 14:49:44] - a: learning it to try to use a Perl module or figure out how the module interacts with Octave (GNU version of MATLAB) -dave

[2004-05-25 14:45:59] - i imply nothing.  ~a

[2004-05-25 14:37:41] - goddammit, i never make the shocked mouth right - vinnie

[2004-05-25 14:37:28] - a: are you implying perl isn't fun? :-O - vinnie

[2004-05-25 14:35:44] - dave:  are you learning perl for something in specific?  or are you just doing it for "fun"  ~a

[2004-05-25 14:24:17] - dave: yes. iirc :) - vinnie

[2004-05-25 14:24:00] - = if I recall correctly - vinnie

[2004-05-25 14:23:47] - so if you don't use "my" everything is assumed to be global? -dave

[2004-05-25 14:23:15] - vinnie: iirc? -dave

[2004-05-25 14:22:28] - "my" makes the variable local, iirc - vinnie

[2004-05-25 14:21:07] - so I'm trying to figure out Perl, and I don't get exactly what this "my" variable is. It looks like some sort of special variable? -dave

[2004-05-25 14:17:20] - pierce is on a business trip and has VERY infrequent access to the mboard during the day.  And no one talks at night. - pierce

[2004-05-25 14:14:51] - a: nah, it's cool. very mysterious. like those eleven days they took out back in 1752 - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:58:11] - vinnie:  yeah, the stats are pretty low tech (that stat section is only two lines of code)  ~a

[2004-05-25 13:56:41] - 1-800-94-JENNY

[2004-05-25 13:43:49] - heh, they don't even show up in the stats - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:42:14] - "[7-8-00 11:05:00a] - uh . . . . why are no messages showing up on my screen?"

[2004-05-25 13:41:38] - i mean 5/2000 and 6/2000.  ~a

[2004-05-25 13:41:38] - a: "accidentally" eh? did you lose some sort of debate? :-) -dave

[2004-05-25 13:41:06] - a: got deleted?? - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:40:46] - those summers are identical to me. I really have no recollection of any differences - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:40:38] - i don't know if you remember, but 6/2000 and 7/2000 got deleted accedentally  ~a

[2004-05-25 13:39:57] - dave:  i was wrong.  you were right.  ~a

[2004-05-25 13:37:16] - a: so july and august of 00? -dave

[2004-05-25 13:34:40] - dave:  no, you were mostly summer of '00  ~a

[2004-05-25 13:32:35] - vinnie: maybe that was the summer of '01 -dave

[2004-05-25 13:32:04] - vinnie: for some reason, I remember posting a lot to the message board during some summer when I was working -dave

[2004-05-25 13:29:53] - oh, right. for some reason I was confused years with "years" :) - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:28:50] - vinnie: wasn't 9/11 our junior year? I believe I was living in Payne when that happened, and that was junior year I think -dave

[2004-05-25 13:26:55] - dave: it was our sophomore year. I can't remember what else happened that year except 9/11, which ironically wasn't talked about much on here - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:25:44] - dave: we made that connection too - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:24:58] - he reminds me of The Rock for some reason in that picture -dave

[2004-05-25 13:24:48] - how awful - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:24:31] - vinnie: gah, the year of dave -dave

[2004-05-25 13:24:29] - so young! :'( - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:24:19] - vinnie: yay! the dear of dave! -dave

[2004-05-25 13:23:39] - dave: that was the year of dave (the "I agree with" variety). I think there was a bit of conversation about that - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:23:16] - vinnie: it was our what, sophomore year? -dave

[2004-05-25 13:22:41] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/25/obit.biggs/index.html  :'(  Richard Biggs died.  ~a

[2004-05-25 13:22:03] - vinnie: jeez, I can't even place 2001 very well anymore -dave

[2004-05-25 13:19:05] - travis: i was actually stunned that this month has been the highest ever. i just remember hours-long debates every day in 2001 - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:18:03] - travis: the mboard can't be predicted - vinnie

[2004-05-25 13:09:32] - dave: luckily, he died :-P he's just fairly sporadic on posting here and his journal - travis

[2004-05-25 13:07:58] - what happened to pierce? -dave

[2004-05-25 13:06:10] - mig: job interview - travis

[2004-05-25 13:06:03] - man, what went in in summ '00 and all of 2001 that there were so many posts, then the rest of college there were (relatively) barely any posts - travis

[2004-05-25 13:03:59] - where is paul, anyway? - mig

[2004-05-25 13:02:02] - mig: 10k - paul/2966, pierce/1442. that's why - vinnie

[2004-05-25 12:43:01] - what's with the slow day on here? - mig

[2004-05-25 12:38:33] - vinnie: haha, ouch :-) -dave

[2004-05-25 11:18:11] - http://www.makingpages.org/hoops/malonekickhorry.jpg maybe malone was ejected for previous transgressions? :) - vinnie

[2004-05-25 10:45:28] - vinnie: hehe, sounds like she snapped -dave

[2004-05-25 10:42:02] - http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/hampton/05232004/news/17773.htm jewel's going crazy - vinnie

[2004-05-25 09:42:27] - vinnie: I didn't catch it, but I read about it. Definitely sounds like a very cool block :-) -dave

[2004-05-25 09:39:48] - anyone catch the end of the detroit game? might've been the coolest blocked shot I've ever seen - vinnie

[2004-05-25 09:39:05] - I didn't think he should've been ejected either - vinnie

[2004-05-25 09:30:53] - dave:  aldridge is just spewing laker hate. - mig

[2004-05-25 09:29:01] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2004/columns/story?columnist=aldridge_david&id=1808516 person ranting that Malone should have been suspended for at least a game. Sheesh, really? I watched the game and was even surprised that he was ejected. Maybe the camera view wasn't good or something -dave

[2004-05-25 09:22:16] - aaron: ahhh, I stand corrected then. I don't really have much experience with the show. -dave

[2004-05-25 09:09:31] - dave: I don't know, I found myself "hearing him out" on a lot of things. He had a lot of sensible viewpoints I hadn't heard in addition to the usual noisy whining and namecalling. - aaron

[2004-05-25 09:07:56] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/05/21/university.klan.ap professor tries to get KKK recognized as a terrorist group. - mig

[2004-05-25 09:05:08] - dave:  hence him calling his listeners dittoheads. - mig

[2004-05-25 09:01:19] - aaron: you think the Rush Limbaugh show affects that many people? To me, it seems like the only people who would listen to that show have already made up their minds on who to vote for -dave

[2004-05-25 08:59:14] - aaron: yeah, I think the big thing that they buy with the money is tv ads. They do seem to have some affect on polls etc, but how much is up for debate -dave

[2004-05-25 08:58:14] - aaron...his campaign -dave

[2004-05-25 08:58:05] - aaron: (shrug) or make it even, depending on your point of view. I think Bush's campaign should benefit from having raised so much more "restricted" money in 2k individual donations than Kerry. In either case, Kerry has closed the money gap a lot in recent months anyways, as Bush has been raising money for the Repub party now and not for... -dave

[2004-05-25 08:56:21] - If that's all their campaign funds are buying them, then I don't really care how much they spend - aaron

[2004-05-25 08:56:00] - dave: I don't know, personally I think things like Rush Limbaugh and The Daily Show affect people's votes much more than "Vote Kerry" flash animations next to my Dance Dance Revolution article at cnn.com - aaron

[2004-05-25 08:55:38] - aaron: incidentally, all Kerry has to do to even out that month or so difference is "delaying formal acceptance until Sept. 1 so he can spend as he pleases from his ample, privately raised campaign funds." <= from that article you posted -dave

[2004-05-25 08:55:02] - dave: To make it uneven again? :-p - aaron

[2004-05-25 08:52:58] - aaron: Bush's campaign has raised more money than Kerry's (through 2k individual donations), but the Democratic 3rd party groups have "evened" it out a lot by spending a lot of soft money. These 3rd party groups were the point of contention. Now that they have been ruled legal, the repubs are forming them too -dave

[2004-05-25 08:51:23] - aaron: Kerry receives his matching public funds a month or so ahead of Bush. This means he gets to use them earlier, but he also has to make them last a month longer. The time you get your matching funds is based on when your party convention is held (democratic convention etc) -dave

[2004-05-25 08:46:43] - aaron:  oh i remember.  it was "hiding" in the egg holder in the refrigerator door.  ~a

[2004-05-25 08:44:34] - ill go look.  ~a

[2004-05-25 08:44:16] - aaron:  no.  did it get left in one of the grocery bags?  ~a

[2004-05-25 08:43:56] - a: My string cheese is missing! Did you eat it all? - aaron

[2004-05-25 08:43:26] - http://www.cincypost.com/2004/05/25/editb052504.html Something about how Kerry is limited to his 7 million in public funds starting in June, while Bush doesn't have to start burning through his until September. - aaron

[2004-05-25 08:40:47] - mig: it is a little out of his way to be going every day.  they won't notice if you go once or twice a week.  ~a

[2004-05-25 08:40:39] - dave: That's funny, I read a different article implying that somehow Bush had some big advantage on campaign spending this year. Let me find it - aaron

[2004-05-25 08:38:50] - aaron: I believe the limitation on the 3rd party group is that they can't support the candidate directly (like not mention his name?) and they cannot coordinate directly with the candidate (his adv. group etc) -dave

[2004-05-25 08:38:08] - aaron: yeah, that's what's so screwy about it. The Repubs tried to get these 3rd party groups blocked/made illegal, but the committee or whatever just ruled that they are legal. So now the Repubs are forming their own. The Dems have had the groups in place and raising/spending money for a good long while now. -dave

[2004-05-25 08:32:41] - dave: I'm really not sure how that works! That does seem kind of sketchy if a 3rd party could obtain unlimited donations from people, and spend it on campaign stuff, while the presidential nominees were limited to $2,000 a person up to a limit of $75,000,000 or however much - aaron

[2004-05-25 08:23:31] - aaron: err, can get as much as they want from anyone -dave

[2004-05-25 08:23:08] - aaron: I don't think they do, but I was just wondering. Like campaigns can only get what, 2k from a specific donor? But these other soft money companies can get as much from anyone? -dave

[2004-05-25 08:08:16] - They have limits? - aaron

[2004-05-25 08:05:55] - does anyone know the limitation, if any, on the money-raising of the soft-money groups such as moveon.org etc? -dave

[2004-05-25 07:43:55] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5013551/ we're switching top generals in Iraq because we want to have a 4-star general there when the turnover happens. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me -dave

[2004-05-25 07:31:01] - Props to Banderas. Apparently he's stuck with his wife (Melanie Griffith) for 8 years and through some tough stuff -dave

[2004-05-25 07:24:25] - for a singer who constantly calls herself "deep" that's awfully shallow IMO -dave

[2004-05-25 07:23:58] - avril lavigne has great music, but would she quit with the Duff, Spears, etc bashing? She hasn't met either of them and yet feels justified in making all sorts of comments about them -dave

[2004-05-25 07:12:15] - http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5023530/ NYC Exec spends 28k at strip club. 3k bottles of champage? Jeez -dave

[2004-05-24 23:39:34] - paul:  trust me, they do recognize you if you go to a certain place often enough. - mig

[2004-05-24 23:31:17] - Pierce: How did you lose the jewel? Did it just pop out and you didn't notice? I guess I'm lucky I never wear mine. :-P -Paul

[2004-05-24 23:30:01] - mig: I doubt it. -Paul

[2004-05-24 22:53:54] - pierce:  this is why i never get a class ring.  that kind of thing happens to like everybody and makes me so sad to hear those stories.  ~a

[2004-05-24 22:46:33] - damn fuck it.  I lost the jewel on my class ring. :'( - pierce

[2004-05-24 21:04:27] - paul:  if you go there enough she probably will. - mig

[2004-05-24 16:57:02] - Vinnie: Except she doesn't know my name and probably wouldn't even recognize me. :-) -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:55:57] - sung to the tune of "by mennen" - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:55:12] - seinfeld - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:54:52] - Vinnie: Sam saw her, so you had to have seen her. -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:54:38] - Vinnie: Not only do I have no idea what you're talking about, but I have no idea how I'm supposed to sing my name there. :-) -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:53:49] - I still don't know if I've ever seen her! - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:53:27] - you'll get caught in her head like a jingle. "paul ess-en!" - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:53:17] - Can't believe you didn't think she was cute. :-P -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:52:36] - Vinnie: My goal is to eat three meals a day at that McDonalds. 8-) -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:52:00] - Vinnie: Yeah, but it could still be cheaper than lots of other places. Although I seem to remember apartments being more expensive there so that doesn't bode well. -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:51:23] - paul: you just want to live closer to the mcdonalds' girl, admit it - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:50:30] - like I know houses in particular have really skyrocketed in the past couple years - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:49:57] - paul: the prices are going up in my area because a lot of businesses are moving out here. so you might have the same problem - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:48:24] - I'm just looking for some nice place to look for townhouses around where you and Travis live since it seems like a nice area and it's possible I might get a job up and over there. -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:47:28] - Vinnie: Yeah, I guess that's why I was confused. I didn't realize that you were far enough west as to be farther away from DC than me. -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:46:46] - "north of you" makes me think of the really pricey stuff, like mclean and tysons - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:46:10] - another good reason to move to california - aaron

[2004-05-24 16:45:30] - "yeah" re: further west = cheaper - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:44:51] - yeah, basically. i live almost exactly northwest of you - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:43:18] - Further west = cheaper? -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:43:05] - Vinnie: I think of it more as north for some reason. In my defense, it's a little bit of both. -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:42:59] - or at least, what matters in terms of price is that it's further west - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:41:36] - "than" - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:41:27] - paul: why do you keep calling my area north? it's more west then anything - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:40:25] - I dunno, I just expected the area up north to be more expensive for some reason. But it doesn't seem to be based on the searches I am doing. -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:39:43] - Vinnie: About the same I guess, but that's because the townhouses near us are nice for townhouses. -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:35:27] - how much are houses in your area? i don't know the price diff between houses and townhouses - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:33:45] - Vinnie: Well, there are some townhouses right next to my parents' house that are going in the high $400k :-P -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:31:00] - I would guess it's not cheap here - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:30:33] - paul: no, I'm not sure about townhouses. houses in the area are going for nearly $500k though, so maybe that could help you extrapolate - vinnie

[2004-05-24 16:28:25] - Vinnie: Townhouses are what I'm mostly interested in. I've just begun looking at places farther north and I was surprised to see that it seems cheaper than the places I was looking at before. -Paul

[2004-05-24 16:27:21] - paul: you mean price of houses, condos, apts, what? - vinnie

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