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[2004-12-30 10:47:18] - "female bouncer, eh? -travis"  ~a

[2004-12-30 10:06:29] - Travis: Strip clubs hire guys. I've never seen a female bouncer (there has to be some sort of joke in there). -Paul

[2004-12-30 09:34:21] - paul: just like i don't mind that strip clubs discriminate against hiring guys :-) - travis

[2004-12-29 23:59:54] - paul: The occupation, and yeah the situation also I guess. That's my opinion - aaron

[2004-12-29 17:26:16] - Aaron: Basically it depends on the situation? -Paul

[2004-12-29 17:15:07] - So i guess it's ok for certain jobs to be a little bit sexist about their dress code, that's what I'm saying - aaron

[2004-12-29 17:13:45] - A makeupless female bartender is kind of iffy... but I think they have to draw the line somewhere. It would be really awkward to have, for instance, a male kindergarten teacher in a public school who dressed like a woman, before kids were at an appropriate age to understand what was going on - aaron

[2004-12-29 16:56:52] - hey hey, just pushed myself onto the CONSOLE! TOO LATE!

[2004-12-29 15:09:21] - a: I wouldn't know, but I imagine there has to be some kind of discrimination going on in strip clubs that's probably technically illegal. -Paul

[2004-12-29 14:56:51] - paul:  i've often thought about that.  i imagine strippers are often fired because of their looks, right?  ~a

[2004-12-29 14:52:00] - http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2004-12-28-makeup_x.htm Court: It's OK to fire woman who wouldn't wear makeup -Paul

[2004-12-29 12:46:22] - interesting graph "The ratings are based on the world-wide availability of skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors. The popular search engines Google and Yahoo! are used to calculate the ratings." http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/images/tpci_trends.gif

[2004-12-29 10:57:07] - yawn.  maybe i should go to work  :-)  ~a

[2004-12-29 09:58:52] - Aaron: My guess is that it did (come from more than 3 days ago) otherwise there would've been some mention of it being a controversial statement. -Paul

[2004-12-29 08:24:47] - http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/29/news/fortune500/jnj.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes Suit says Motrin caused blindness. Lawyer describes the sudden unexpected symptoms as a "medical tsunami", I kind of hope the quote is from more than 3 days ago - aaron

[2004-12-28 14:10:24] - haggadahs is a long word you can type on the home row.  ~a

[2004-12-28 11:56:48] - a: of course I just realized, sweaterdresses must also be valid - we need a longer dictionary - aaron

[2004-12-28 10:46:18] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/28/christmas.scam.ap/index.html Man with a web site which supposedly controlled his christmas lights admits it was a scam - aaron

[2004-12-28 08:19:49] - xpovos: Based on a natural keyboard it's left hand. And sweaterdress is a lot more fun to type than any of the other words. You should try it a few times - aaron

[2004-12-27 23:14:42] - xpovos:  'b' is most definitely meant for the left hand (sorry for having to be so reaggregated).  ~a

[2004-12-27 23:13:00] - and i love my sweaterdress :-P  ~a

[2004-12-27 23:12:33] - aaron:  what about aftereffects?  ~a

[2004-12-27 18:42:04] - I'm not sure 'b' is supposed to be typed by the left hand.  It's definately middle-ground. -- Xpovos

[2004-12-27 16:15:23] - Anybody ever read that "secretary" is the longest word that can be typed on a typewriter with the left hand? Because I just found a longer one accidentally, "abstracted" - aaron

[2004-12-27 16:02:20] - god is bored

[2004-12-27 09:42:40] - ho ho ho. merry reality.

[2004-12-26 22:34:14] - lies make baby travis cry

[2004-12-22 16:12:44] - on the first day of christmas my true love gave to me . . . some head

[2004-12-22 14:42:54] - dave: Yeah, it seemed like Wal*Mart did a pretty thorough check which undoubtedly included a photo ID. I was more wondering about the game company - aaron

[2004-12-22 14:23:51] - paul: oh ^_^ -dave

[2004-12-22 13:34:32] - Dave: I think Aaron was talking about the video game flasher, not the Wal-mart suicide case. -Paul

[2004-12-22 13:25:28] - aaron: I assume that they required a photo-id since they went through all the trouble of doing a background check on her. -dave

[2004-12-22 13:21:28] - Travis: I think there is some precedent, but I'm not 100% sure. -Paul

[2004-12-22 13:08:57] - since that seems to be a similar situation, just wondering if that's happened before (i'm sure it has but i figure someone else is more informed) - travis

[2004-12-22 13:08:16] - is there any sort of precedent about bars getting sued for serving alcohol to people underage who used fake IDs? - travis

[2004-12-22 13:07:42] - both of those lawsuits (walmart and guy game) better lose for the reasons already stated, there's nothing a company can do if a person lies to it - travis

[2004-12-22 12:53:01] - She may have been a minor, but I would think she was old enough to at least be able to make that decision. -Paul

[2004-12-22 12:52:27] - Aaron: I would tend to agree, but I would also take it a step farther than most people and say that it's also a little late for her to be lamenting what she did. If she didn't want people to see her topless, then maybe she shouldn't have signed up to flash people for a video game. -Paul

[2004-12-22 12:13:04] - But if she forges an ID to sign this release form, then I would feel really sorry for the company if they were still held responsible. - aaron

[2004-12-22 12:12:26] - paul: For me it's just a case of "what else could the company have done", like Dave was saying for the walmart article. They had her sign a release form, and I can't help but imagine they requested a photo ID. If they didn't at least take that last step, then shame on them, they deserve to be involved in a lawsuit - aaron

[2004-12-22 12:08:35] - paul:  it also sounds from that article that mlb is not going to go into any exclusive agreements with ea either. - mig

[2004-12-22 11:59:33] - Aaron: Yeah, I'm sure this shocks everybody here but I wasn't exactly shedding tears over that girl's situation. -Paul

[2004-12-22 11:53:48] - paul: If she was 17 at the time the footage was shot, then she's really pushing the limit for the "i am still a teenager" excuse cited at the end of the article - aaron

[2004-12-22 11:50:47] - dave: The whole concept of file sharing implies a lack of privacy in the first place... although yes you're right that it could be a concern to some - aaron

[2004-12-22 10:40:15] - aaron: well the other problem is that to make it work you have to also monitor all the traffic, raising privacy concerns -dave

[2004-12-22 10:26:38] - http://xbox.ign.com/articles/574/574812p1.html Developer of video game sued by underage flasher. -Paul

[2004-12-22 10:25:10] - http://sports.ign.com/articles/574/574539p1.html?fromint=1 NBA rejects EAs bid for exclusive rights to develop games. -Paul

[2004-12-22 10:15:41] - The only problem  I really see with the service is the potential for releasing unauthorized covers or remixes of songs, there's no way they could automatically detect or stop that, so that kind of stuff will still prevail. Hopefully the record companies won't have a heartattack about someone downloading bootleg remixes or covers - aaron

[2004-12-22 10:14:30] - That "mashboxx" tool seems pretty cool. If they can actually come up with a way to fingerprint songs like they claim, then that would be a great way for independent artists to share their songs and stuff - aaron

[2004-12-22 09:35:40] - Dave: It's Texas, so I doubt the parents are going to win. If it were California, then it would be a different matter. -Paul

[2004-12-22 08:37:46] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18568-2004Dec22.html Mashboxx attempts to make file-sharing legit -dave

[2004-12-22 08:24:36] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/12/21/delta.launch.ap/index.html Boeing successfully tests mammoth new rocket -dave

[2004-12-22 08:22:30] - http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/22/technology/microsoft_eu.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes Microsoft loses European appeal -dave

[2004-12-22 08:20:32] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/21/rape.exoneration.ap/index.html innocent inmate released after 17 years (for rape). -dave

[2004-12-22 08:09:35] - they better not win. EVEN if you believe that the law shouldn't allow wal-mart to sell the gun like that, they folllowed all the CURRENT laws on the matter -dave

[2004-12-22 08:08:41] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/21/gun.lawsuit.ap/index.html this makes me soooo mad. Parents suing Wal-Mart for selling shotgun to daughter with mental illness who committed suicide with it. Wal-Mart did all the prerequisite background checks etc, and the girl lied when filling out the forms -dave

[2004-12-22 08:04:00] - be interesting to see if they crash like we did -dave

[2004-12-22 08:03:45] - http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid={9984F221-D638-489D-B176-4E6AF1C37235}&siteid=mktw&dist= overseas firms (china, india) to lead '05 tech growth -dave

[2004-12-21 18:23:59] - http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1951112 ap poll pulls out of the bcs system. - mig

[2004-12-21 16:27:48] - http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/21/technology/personaltech/phone_dna.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes mobile-phone-like radiation harms cell DNA -dave

[2004-12-21 16:23:36] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14916-2004Dec20.html Suprnova.org (BitTorrent filesharing site) shuts down -dave

[2004-12-21 16:19:32] - http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BD159D764%2D6D83%2D4692%2DB95C%2D14CE49AD9423%7D&siteid=mktw&dist= Dow at 3.5 year high -dave

[2004-12-21 16:18:30] - Paul: inferior source of information, you ^_^ -dave

[2004-12-21 15:10:49] - Dave: I'm not sure. I want to say no, but I don't know if that's based on anything. Sorry. -Paul

[2004-12-21 15:07:06] - for reference, around the peak a long ways back, the S&;P was 1230 -dave

[2004-12-21 15:06:33] - stupid smiley -dave

[2004-12-21 15:06:22] - they say the S&;P could pass 1300! That's significantly higher than it was way before this whole stock-market decline thing started -dave

[2004-12-21 15:05:45] - http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BAF59388D%2D3EDE%2D4EB4%2DAAF3%2DFCC41222F6E8%7D&siteid=mktw&dist= TrimTabs predicts bullish market through next month -dave

[2004-12-21 14:48:33] - paul: do they have socialized health care? -dave

[2004-12-21 14:45:33] - dave:  never mind.  i'm just being annoying.  ~a

[2004-12-21 14:30:55] - Dave: Nah, I wouldn't be surprised if I was in the minority in associating 'conservative' with the economy as much as I do. I just felt the need to point that out because India is fairly socialist in terms of it's economy I think. -Paul

[2004-12-21 14:26:21] - who'm I ignoring? -dave

[2004-12-21 14:26:14] - paul: yeah, I meant socially conservative. Actually, whenever I say conservative I usually mean socially conservative more often than economically conservative. mebbe that's just me tho -dave

[2004-12-21 14:23:27] - Dave: A more appropriate term would probably be authoritarian, because the government is also fairly involved in the economy still. But I'm sure that was just more information than you wanted. :-P -Paul

[2004-12-21 14:22:41] - Dave: India is socially conservative thanks to the influence of religious groups but not really economically conservative. In other words, it's not conservative like how we often mean it in America in terms of politics. -Paul

[2004-12-21 14:16:24] - dave is ignoring me.  :'(

[2004-12-21 13:41:16] - http://news.indiainfo.com/2004/12/17/1712bazee.html more on the matter. So does this mean downloading porn in India is illegal? -dave

[2004-12-21 13:39:02] - http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BC6FB1528%2DA9D1%2D4A28%2DB8F6%2DB5F5D38F1738%7D&siteid=mktw&dist= not the purpose of the article, but I didn't know India was so conservative -dave

[2004-12-21 13:01:27] - dave has been partying like it's 1999.  ~a

[2004-12-21 12:58:52] - dave:  in bed by 8, home by 11?  yeah?  ~a

[2004-12-21 12:58:28] - pierce: and since I only really browse the msg board regularly at work, when I have an erratic work schedule I don't check it much, hence my statement on possibly missing some of paul's comments -dave

[2004-12-21 12:57:43] - pierce: well, I meant my erratic work schedule really. I took a bunch of time off to study for finals and to get final projects done. -dave

[2004-12-21 12:51:41] - Travis: Ok, the reason I ask is because it showed up as a suggestion from Amazon and I had never heard of it before. It sounded halfway decent when I read the descriptions. Let me know what you think of it. -Paul

[2004-12-21 12:47:25] - paul: forever knight has been on my netflix list for a little while, so it's at least good enough to get my attention :-) - travis

[2004-12-21 12:06:25] - Pierce: I called the apartment. I don't think I know your cell phone number. -Paul

[2004-12-21 12:04:43] - Paul: did you call my cell me on my cell, or at my apt? - pierce

[2004-12-21 10:54:31] - Pierce: I tried calling a couple of times from the parkway but nobody answered so I figured you weren't home. -Paul

[2004-12-21 10:54:10] - Mig: Do you know if it's any good? -Paul

[2004-12-21 10:52:38] - pierce:  in bed by 8, home by 11.  YEAH!  ~a

[2004-12-21 10:45:11] - Okay, I'll bite.  Let's hear about your "erratic schedule", dave. :) - pierce

[2004-12-21 10:37:19] - Paul: well, considering I've had an erratic schedule for the past 3-4 weeks, I wouldn't be surprised if I missed something -dave

[2004-12-21 10:17:16] - Paul: so what happened?  I never heard from you. - pierce

[2004-12-21 09:54:02] - paul:  i've heard of it. - mig

[2004-12-21 09:53:01] - Anybody heard of a TV show called Forever Knight? -Paul

[2004-12-21 09:48:37] - paul:  not everybody reads everything you post.  silly.  ~a

[2004-12-21 09:45:44] - Dave: I can see you obviously don't read the links I post. :-) -Paul

[2004-12-21 08:46:02] - http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2305 nVidia releases drivers to enable PureVideo (hardware encoding/decoding of video) on Geforce 6 GPUs -dave

[2004-12-21 08:41:21] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20041220-4479.html EA buys almost 20% of Ubisoft. Controlling owners only have 22% -dave

[2004-12-21 08:35:34] - mig: bah, did someone already post that? -dave

[2004-12-21 08:31:09] - dave:  the japanese pillow was so last week. - mig

[2004-12-21 07:50:30] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6717610/ "Japanese lap pillow provides solace for lonely men. $90 pillow comes with one red and one black skirt" absolutely hilarious -dave

[2004-12-21 07:39:23] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15212-2004Dec20.html Rowling complete 6th book. Release in 2005 -dave

[2004-12-21 07:38:07] - pierce: also, I believe nVidia just makes money on the chips themselves that sell, so their profit margin should be the same regardless of what kind of video card the chips end up in -dave

[2004-12-21 07:37:08] - pierce: and I think the real bonus is that nVidia probably didn't spend any money at all on the card (unless you count developing SLI). So they kinda get something for nothing -dave

[2004-12-21 07:36:07] - pierce: I dunno. I think there's something to be said for momentum. If you release an excellent product and gain marketshare, that marketshare takes some doing ti take back. -dave

[2004-12-20 14:38:52] - a: Sure, whatever. -Paul

[2004-12-20 13:55:33] - i love you, paul.  ~a

[2004-12-20 13:06:40] - yay!!!!!  ~a

[2004-12-20 13:04:02] - a: If Pierce knows where it is, then I'll try to remember to pick it up. -Paul

[2004-12-20 12:21:54] - i'll get it from you next time we watch angel  :-)  ~a

[2004-12-20 12:21:26] - paul:  while you're there pick up my gym bag.  ~a

[2004-12-20 11:47:30] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/18/spam.lawsuit.ap/index.html spammers ordered to pay $1B in costs to a mail server ($10 per spam message) - aaron

[2004-12-20 10:41:56] - Pierce: Ok, np. I can stop by tonight sometime between 7pm and 9pm or tomorrow around the same time if you'll be around then. -Paul

[2004-12-20 10:37:58] - Yeah, sure... Sorry about the delay getting back.  Just give me a call on my cell before you come over, in case I'm at dinner or something.  What time do you think it might be? - pierce

[2004-12-20 09:50:22] - Pierce: btw, can I stop by sometime this week after work to pick something up at your place? -Paul

[2004-12-20 09:49:40] - Pierce: And so I was wondering if religious and racial profiling was considered to be restricting civil liberties. -Paul

[2004-12-20 09:48:39] - Pierce: Sorry, I guess I needed to give some reference. I was referring to the article you posted. A bunch of the statistics they listed (not all, but most) seemed to deal more with profiling Muslims rather than any blatant restriction of civil liberties. -Paul

[2004-12-19 19:42:34] - But what I will say is that it combines with other arguable violations of civil liberties to make them more clear and egregious.  For example, it's arguable that x-raying everyone's bags in airports is an unreasonable search; when you start doing that more to people of arab ancestry, I think you've crossed a line. - pierce

[2004-12-19 19:40:23] - Paul: I don't know if that question was topical to something else, but the answer depends on who you talk to.  Obviously, if there's a crime at a convenience store and the store owner describes the perpetrator as a 6'1" black male, I don't think it's a restriction of liberties to look for someone matching that description. - pierce

[2004-12-18 17:39:26] - http://www.alessonislearned.com/lesson010.html#navi2 I thought this comic was really good! - aaron

[2004-12-18 12:22:48] - Pierce: Is racial and ethnic profiling normally considered restricting civil liberties? -Paul

[2004-12-18 12:19:04] - Pierce: So you think ATI and nVidia would rather stay in a perpetual state of sharing market share evenly rather than one side releasing a significantly better product to try to take the lead? -paul

[2004-12-18 11:19:23] - http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-bc-ny--fearfactor1217dec17,0,4929167.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork this is just sad.  I wish they'd listed the questions verbatim, because I would hope that they were leading and that's why these results are the way they are. - pierce

[2004-12-18 11:17:22] - Paul: only significantly better enough to give them a temporary advantage in the market.  Then both ATI and nVidia can profit in continuing cycles for a long time, rather than blowing all their technical capabilities as quickly as possible and burning out. - pierce

[2004-12-17 18:48:30] - Pierce: So you think nVidia wouldn't want to release some card which was significantly better than their competitor? -Paul

[2004-12-17 18:35:20] - Adios, everyone. - pierce

[2004-12-17 18:35:02] - Okay, time to go catch my flight.  Home for two consecutive weeks for the first time in like four or five months.  I don't know what I'm going to do with myself! :) - pierce

[2004-12-17 18:27:27] - Those cards are probably heavily inflated in price and deflated in functionality, because nVidia's impetus is simply to stay ahead of their competitors in perceived value, rather than release the best possible technology.  Gigabyte unbalances that, and accelerates the competitive process, meaning that nVidia will have to shave its margins. - pierce

[2004-12-17 18:25:21] - dave+paul: I'm not so sure nVidia would be happy about that card.  Yes, they get money from the chip sales.  But before Gigabyte came along, probably half of what would become Gigabyte's sales would have gone to nVidia's line of full cards... - pierce

[2004-12-17 16:26:16] - Dave: Interesting article, but I don't know if I fully agree with all the conclusions he draws from it. -Paul

[2004-12-17 16:24:28] - Travis: Interesting trade if it goes through. I would've thought Kidd would've been against it since he is friends with Alonzo. Guess not. -Paul

[2004-12-17 16:13:54] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/041217 interesting comparison on how Jordan kept his image so shiny and why Kobe hasn't been able to -dave

[2004-12-17 16:03:45] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1948449 carter being traded to nets (pending league approval) - travis

[2004-12-17 12:47:13] - -bash: kill: no such pid pid

[2004-12-17 11:27:23] - -bash: fg: current: no such job

[2004-12-17 11:19:35] - hmmm, ok thx. -dave

[2004-12-17 11:07:25] - i.e. link in the .lib (or .o) file.  ~a

[2004-12-17 11:02:31] - simply including the .h file won't work unless you have the compiled definition of that class. - mig

[2004-12-17 11:01:06] - dave:  unresolved externel erros happen when you are trying to call a function that is declared but not defined, you need to include the compiled crypt stuff in whatever you are compiling with the .h file. - mig

[2004-12-17 10:56:53] - http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-wcup-milk&prov=ap&type=lgns politican wants milk sold at world cup 2006 games. - mig

[2004-12-17 10:43:24] - but then when I try to include the .H with another program and use it in that program it gives me unresolved external errors for functions that are in the crypt algo's -dave

[2004-12-17 10:42:45] - I tested it by creating another .CPP file, including the .H file, and then using the crypt stuff in the main function. works fine. -dave

[2004-12-17 10:42:05] - what I did was I took a program that did some encryption/decryption stuff, and converted it from a 'main' to a function and put it in a .H file. -dave

[2004-12-17 10:41:23] - anyone know why I'm getting an 'unresolved external' error? I think it's some sort of linker bug. -dave

[2004-12-17 10:40:45] - Paul: yeah, I'm sure they're happy about it. In fact, if I remember correctly, that's one of the things that nVidia has which ATI doesn't, SLI support -dave

[2004-12-17 10:35:31] - Dave: So in theory, shouldn't nViidia be happy about this? They're still getting credit for this card in terms of market share and since the card uses two GPUs, they're probably making more money off each card then they would from a normal card. -Paul

[2004-12-17 10:29:41] - a: nvidia doesn't sell their own cards really. they just create a reference design and give it to a buncha other companies who basically follow that design and sell cards. Gigabyte is one of those companies. It's just that Gigabyte took some initiative and came up with something novel as opposed to just following an nVidia reference design -dave

[2004-12-17 09:58:25] - a: "nationally recognized" So I guess so. :-) -Paul

[2004-12-17 09:56:05] - nationally outspoken?  ~a

[2004-12-17 09:53:53] - a: It just means he is outspoken about his opinions regarding the First Ammendment. :-P -Paul

[2004-12-17 09:52:06] - dave:  "Eugene Volokh, a nationally recognized First Amendment expert who also has 12 years of computer programming experience."  how does a computer programmer go about becoming a nationally recognized first amendment expert?  ~a

[2004-12-17 09:47:51] - dave:  wait.  they're using an nvidia chip to compete with nvidia?  ~a

[2004-12-17 08:44:58] - http://www.dailyherald.com/dupage/main_story.asp?intID=3833854 video game ban (preventing sale of violent and sexually explicit games to minors) is facing tough battle -dave

[2004-12-17 08:43:07] - http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20041216_115811.html Gigabyte creates graphics card with dual-GPUs. Two nVidia 6600GT chips communicating through SLI. Supposedly outperforms top cards from both nVidia and ATI and will sell for less -dave

[2004-12-17 01:37:25] - just to be clear: I primarily donated to support mozilla, secondarily to get my name in the paper. - pierce

[2004-12-16 16:21:17] - paul . . . because i'm not as cool as pierce.  ~a

[2004-12-16 14:21:21] - a: So why isn't your name there? -Paul

[2004-12-16 14:17:17] - paul:  he's supporting a cause.  even though it's easy to make fun of pierce, it's a cause i support.  ~a

[2004-12-16 13:57:36] - a: Yeah, originally I was going to make some comment about paying for something that is free (Firefox) but I thought that sounded a little too mean and misleading. :-) Paul

[2004-12-16 13:50:24] - paul:  i am not.  i am making fun of pierce because he paid money to get his name shown in the paper.  ~a

[2004-12-16 13:11:51] - Aaron: Ok, just was wondering if there was more to the Firefox ad than I realized. -Paul

[2004-12-16 13:08:52] - paul: Yes I am - aaron

[2004-12-16 13:05:57] - I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but are we congratulating Pierce because he paid money to get his name shown in the paper? :-P -Paul

[2004-12-16 12:39:25] - aaron:  the right edge is block justified in the pdf (and not the png).  weird.  ~a

[2004-12-16 12:31:48] - And yes, pierce's name is just to the left of the bottom white swoosh. Way to go Pierce. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/temp/nytimes-firefox-final.pdf - aaron

[2004-12-16 12:28:53] - They should have block-justified the name list. The right edge looks a little sloppy! - aaron

[2004-12-16 12:24:59] - pierce:  i think i see your name  http://www.mozilla.org/images/nyt_ad_large_2004.png  ~a

[2004-12-16 12:01:17] - a: Not likely. -Paul

[2004-12-16 10:48:54] - god bless the japanesse. - mig

[2004-12-16 10:23:21] - paul:  are you going to buy it?  ~a

[2004-12-16 10:14:50] - Why is that such a big deal? They scrambled GPS signals during the original gulf war too - aaron

[2004-12-16 09:54:56] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6717610/?GT1=5936 Japanese 'lap pillow' offers solace to lonely men -Paul

[2004-12-16 08:56:43] - Ironically, this comes alongside the President's plan to strengthen the GPS network against deliberate jamming."

[2004-12-16 08:56:40] - "Apparently, President Bush is drawing up plans to disable sections of the GPS network in the event of a terrorist attack. The rationale seems to be that it would prevent said terrorists from using the GPS system to direct some sort of attack. The plan would shut down access not only to the GPS satellite network, but projects like the EU's Galileo.

[2004-12-15 20:13:15] - Mel: I thought so. Although I thought the Lohan one was actually fairly insightful too. -Paul

[2004-12-15 18:20:25] - "I'm not very politically involved ... I mean, if you say you're a Democrat, that'll turn off Republicans, and that's half of your fan base."  Lindsay Lohan on the election  -mel

[2004-12-15 18:20:12] - Paul: haha.  There are some really funny quotes.  :-)  -mel

[2004-12-15 17:57:04] - Travis: I don't think they had a reason other than it violated NBA attire rules or whatever. -Paul

[2004-12-15 17:39:25] - heheheheh: "Whenever I see a homeless guy, I always run back and give him money, because I think, 'Oh my God, what if that was Jesus?'" - aaron

[2004-12-15 17:23:08] - "NBA spokesman Brian McIntyre after the NBA found out that Vince Carter was listening to his iPod during pregame warmups." i forget, why did they not want him wearing an ipod? - travis

[2004-12-15 15:43:32] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/quotes/archive Some fairly funny sports quotes which most of you probably wouldn't get. -Paul

[2004-12-15 14:53:22] - I just really hope nobody watches that show and thinks that what the real world is like. -Paul

[2004-12-15 14:52:00] - Mel: The part I saw involved them being photographed on a motorcycle with some absolutely hideous makeup. Then there was a challenge where they had a short amount of time to dress up as if they were going out or something. -Paul

[2004-12-15 14:26:27] - Paul: Its like Fear Factor, but then you get photographed and the girls that win are the ones that can hold a smile while being in these uncomfortable situations.  -mel

[2004-12-15 14:25:17] - Paul: When I was sick last week I watched America's Top model and I was amused.  Its almost like Fear factor in a way.  They put the girls in all these ridiculous modeling scenarios (suspended over a ten story drop, wearing rollerblades, with a snake wrapped around their neck, inside a pool of freezing water) and then photograph them.  -mel

[2004-12-15 14:23:06] - vinnie: I feel the same way.  I sometimes can't tell if the show is supposed to be funny or not.  -mel

[2004-12-15 14:17:38] - vinnie: It didn't help that they weren't very creative. Didn't they have "Joe Millionaire 2" as one of the parodies, where it had a different twist ending (and blatant reuse of the monster island joke?) - aaron

[2004-12-15 14:07:47] - I saw about ten minutes of America's Next Top Model a couple of days ago and I couldn't believe how much I hated it. It was like taking everything I hate about society and creating a show which glorified all of it. -Paul

[2004-12-15 14:02:40] - I mean, Simpsons has tried to come up a with over-the-top ones, but several I thought could be real - vinnie

[2004-12-15 13:59:22] - I can't tell the difference between real reality shows and parodies of reality shows anymore. the difference used to be that with parodies they were obviously coming up with the name first and the concept second; no longer - vinnie

[2004-12-15 13:57:09] - Hopefully the woman is not a forensic scientist or this could be a very dull show - aaron

[2004-12-15 13:32:29] - http://www.tampabaylive.com/entertainment/stories/0407/040716fox.shtml  Fox is working on a new "secret" reality show project called "Who's Your Daddy?"  A woman wins $100K if she can successfully figure out which one of eight men is her real father.  -mel

[2004-12-15 13:08:03] - eat your vegetables! - mom

[2004-12-15 11:57:18] - a: I do too, online banking isn't a problem. It's logging into the investment site. Actually, I think it's called Banc of America investments and I think it's a seperate entity from the actual Bank of America bank. -Paul

[2004-12-15 11:56:47] - vinnie: hmmm, maybe that's why i couldn't log into mine, too - travis

[2004-12-15 11:51:37] - I've had problems logging into my router in firefox - vinnie

[2004-12-15 11:50:20] - paul:  i use boa's online banking.  ~a

[2004-12-15 11:30:05] - a: and you didn't change any settings or anything to get launch to work? it just worked without touching any firefox options? - travis

[2004-12-15 11:27:55] - a: So it wouldn't be terribly useful to tell you unless you had a way of logging into Morgan-Stanley or Bank of America Investments. -Paul

[2004-12-15 11:26:57] - a: And I have URLs of sites that don't work, but most of them don't break until you try logging into them. -Paul

[2004-12-15 11:26:29] - a: Try listening to a station using firefox. -Paul

[2004-12-15 11:08:53] - (i don't have problems using launch.yahoo.com)  ~a

[2004-12-15 11:08:03] - do you have any urls of pages you have trouble with?  ~a

[2004-12-15 11:07:54] - i.e. it has never happened.  ~a

[2004-12-15 11:07:45] - paul:  i never have problems using webpages on firefox.  ~a

[2004-12-15 11:03:49] - Travis: Well, there are a number of sites that firefox doesn't work on so I just resigned myself to using IE for those sites instead of trying to find workarounds for all of them. -Paul

[2004-12-15 11:02:52] - odd that they'd differentiate between netscape on windows and on macs, i guess there would be differences but not that major - travis

[2004-12-15 11:02:17] - paul: that's what i figure the ultimate answer will be, but i'm holding out hope - travis

[2004-12-15 10:56:32] - Travis: I use IE to run launch. :-P -Paul

[2004-12-15 10:52:34] - okay, i know some people listen to launch.yahoo.com and also use firefox so how do i get it to work? it keeps giving an error message saying they don't support netscape on a windows platform - travis

[2004-12-15 09:26:15] - http://www.lewrockwell.com/latulippe/latulippe35.html very interesting article about the iranian government and several of the myths that the usgov is trying to assert about it. - mig

[2004-12-14 18:30:26] - http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13540788&BRD=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478569&rfi=8 An odd but interesting article about Ben Roethlisberger's routine. -Paul

[2004-12-14 16:01:10] - Travis: Depends on what your definition of the ideal media is. Isn't that what the Daily Show does anyway? :-P -Paul

[2004-12-14 16:00:31] - Travis: No, but I think in terms of party support they have more than the greens and in terms of recent candidates I think Badnarik was comparable to Nader. -Paul

[2004-12-14 15:59:24] - and shouldn't an ideal media cover the candidates with the least support since most people will already know about the well supported ones? - travis

[2004-12-14 15:58:35] - paul: so you think libertarians have more support than republicans and democrats? - travis

[2004-12-14 15:28:50] - ok, the os forum people are screaming about it again (well at least the 2k5 people are), so i guess this deal is for real now. - mig

[2004-12-14 15:25:30] - I understand commercials cost money and whoever has more money can buy more commercials. But I was under the impression the media wasn't supposed to cover the richest candidates but instead cover the candidates with the most support (often one and the same, but not always). -paul

[2004-12-14 15:24:24] - Travis: I don't know if I complain about not seeing ads for libertarians as much as libertarians not getting media coverage. -Paul

[2004-12-14 15:14:00] - paul: then never complain again about not seeing ads for libertarians :-) - travis

[2004-12-14 15:02:57] - Aaron: Ok, I understand what you're saying, but I still don't see how that's not a real bidding contest. I mean, just because one company had more money to spend than the others doesn't mean that it wasn't a real contest I don't think. -Paul

[2004-12-14 14:55:09] - paul: If EA can afford $60,000,000 a year on licensing, and all the other companies can afford up to $10,000,000 for a year on licensing, then EA's not going to end up paying $1X0,000,000. They're going to end up paying like $11,000,000 - aaron

[2004-12-14 14:52:53] - paul: I think what Travis was saying, is if it's an actual "bidding process", EA won't have to go higher than all of the other companies combine to win the bid (although it's possible i'm misinterpreting) - aaron

[2004-12-14 13:10:19] - also, i've heard this EA gets exclusive NFL rights before, and it turned out to be bunk. - mig

[2004-12-14 13:09:46] - travis:  also i would imagine that fifa doesn't have a real player's association like the other sports do, so i think they just negociate with the PA's in each country. - mig

[2004-12-14 13:08:37] - travis:  the players that i saw were real names.  I recognized all the guys on the spanish and us national teams so they do have some sort of agreement with fifa.  they of course, only had like 40 national teams out of like 192 actual ones.  - mig

[2004-12-14 13:06:40] - Travis: Considering how many people probably play the game with the sound turned off, I'm not surprised. -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:59:49] - same article also mentions that now EA doesn't feel pressured to resign madden, so now they're gonna drop madden from madden o_O - travis

[2004-12-14 12:57:19] - mig: http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/ap/2004/12/14/ap1710900.html this article mentions that EA has exclusive deals with NASCAR, PGA, and FIFA, but doesn't winning eleven have real players or is that a different set than FIFA? - travis

[2004-12-14 12:55:43] - Travis: Also, they probably achieved what they set out to do with the price cuts (increase market share and win converts from Madden) so there wasn't as big a need of selling futures games for so cheap either. -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:53:54] - which is understandable.  so on the flip side, as a console gets older you shouldn't have as much cost to develop (actually just tweak, in the case of sports games) and can afford to sell for less - travis

[2004-12-14 12:52:13] - prices for sega sports games would go up for the next generation of consoles because they have to recoup the cost of developing for a new system - travis

[2004-12-14 12:41:26] - Travis: One good thing out of all of this, it means our current franchises are likely to be going on for quite some time. :-P -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:37:30] - But it is interesting that Sega may have played a role in bringing this upon themselves. -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:36:55] - Travis: Well, I heard somewhere that Sega has recently decided that the $20 game thing wasn't working out even though it got them a bigger market share and that they weren't going to do that anymore in the future. -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:32:56] - and for all the people that mocked sega for cutting its price to gain ground on madden, it damn well looks like it worked and now EA is doing something just as sneaky - travis

[2004-12-14 12:32:33] - Travis: Would you have bought a Madden game before? :-P And there are a lot of people who feel the same way. Just look at the comments about the article on fark. -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:31:50] - Travis: Well, I'm sure it was a serious bidding process, but one in which the biggest mystery was whether or not EA was willing to pony up the big bucks for exclusive rights or not. -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:31:37] - paul: well, i'm sure i'm in a minority but i refuse to buy a madden game now - travis

[2004-12-14 12:31:07] - Whereas if they hadn't done this, they would've been splitting the market with Sega and likely having to sell their product for cheaper (thanks to Sega's price cuts). -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:30:17] - It guarantees them a virtual monopoly on NFL video games which is worth a helluva lot of money. -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:30:00] - hence i don't think the bidding process was very serious since the NFL wouldn't (shouldn't) want to get less money by offering an exclusive and EA would obviously outbid anyone - travis

[2004-12-14 12:29:42] - Travis: I think EA is paying more than the other companies combined because it helps them tremendously. -Paul

[2004-12-14 12:28:20] - of course, if they aren't i don't see why the NFL would agree to such a deal - travis

[2004-12-14 12:27:41] - paul: didn't see your first comment, but i'm still doubtful whether EA is paying more than all the companies combined - travis

[2004-12-14 12:25:19] - paul: obviously, but EA also has to be paying more than all the current companies combined were paying for the NFL to be making more money with this deal - travis

[2004-12-14 11:42:26] - Travis: Whether they would've made more money from other companies in the future is unknown. -Paul

[2004-12-14 11:40:19] - Travis: Well, I imagine that the deal was for more than what the NFL was getting from everyone combined otherwise they wouldn't have done it. -Paul

[2004-12-14 11:32:50] - from another story: "Both agreements are exclusive for action simulation, arcade-style and manager games...The agreements do not include exclusive rights to other types of games" i better get started on my card-based football game, then - travis

[2004-12-14 11:28:59] - did it necessarily get the NFL more money?  it gets them more from EA, yes, but multiple companies were paying for those rights before and now they've excluded any new companies that might have paid for the rights - travis

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