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[2005-02-23 13:57:48] - http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEMCHPYEM4E_1.html European Space Agency's Mars Express has photographed a possible frozen sea at around the Mars equator. -mel
[2005-02-23 13:51:44] - Paul: http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/23/technology/sirius_nascar/index.htm?cnn=yes Sirius lands exclusive 5-year deal for NASCAR ^_^ -dave
[2005-02-23 11:44:01] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30218-2005Feb16.html Brian Mitchell signs a one-day contract with Washington so he retire as a Redskin -dave
[2005-02-23 10:51:35] - wow. 11% of san francisco residents subscribe to netflix. ~a
[2005-02-23 09:24:09] - http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005082504,00.html man hauled off to mental institution against his and his family's wishes, because he supposadly can't stop eating. for his own good, of course. - mig
[2005-02-23 09:01:11] - mel: I've watched an oscar or two, usually only out of boredom though - vinnie
[2005-02-23 07:24:53] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45393-2005Feb22.html credit cards and small charges -dave
[2005-02-23 07:24:18] - Paul: I think meatloaf is probably one of those things that can taste very differently depending on where you get it from -dave
[2005-02-23 07:23:26] - Paul: and yeah, I don't think much meat can get worse than bologna or hot dogs in terms of being made from random pieces of meat -dave
[2005-02-23 07:22:31] - Paul: Yeah, I haven't eaten meatloaf in forever, but a long time ago my mom made it, and I think she just used ground beef. -dave
[2005-02-22 20:20:09] - http://music.channel.aol.com/internet_radio/whfs hfs lives .... sort of. - mig
[2005-02-22 18:08:09] - http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/News/2005/02/21/937599-sun.html Bush worried that admitting to smoking weed would make encourage kid to try it. -mel
[2005-02-22 18:05:34] - a: yes, I think you're right. -mel
[2005-02-22 18:04:09] - mel: i doubt it. i don't think i've ever watched the oscars. ~a
[2005-02-22 17:56:40] - s/anyone/any -mel
[2005-02-22 17:56:22] - aba: cause I think chris rock has a point... -mel
[2005-02-22 17:56:06] - aba: yes he is.
did anyone guy who posts on the board watch the oscars? -mel[2005-02-22 14:49:00] - haha, chris rock is awesome.
- aba[2005-02-22 13:33:10] - haha. the cafeteria meatloaf is good and I used to work for Dining Services.
-mel[2005-02-22 13:29:04] - wow. from vegetarian to cafeteria meatloaf. those are like polar opposites. ~a
[2005-02-22 13:13:00] - I eat *cafeteria* meatloaf here at work. -mel
[2005-02-22 13:12:05] - I love meatloaf. I eat it at least once a week.
-mel[2005-02-22 12:50:48] - I don't think it's too sketchy, though. I thought it was just ground beef or something mixed up with bread crumbs. Not like a hot dog.
-Paul[2005-02-22 12:48:30] - Yes, I know I'm the only one here who probably likes meatloaf (and I didn't used to when I was little) and I can definitely see why people don't like it. -Paul
[2005-02-22 12:44:47] - meatloaf sucks yo - vinnie
[2005-02-22 12:40:10] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/22/oscars.rock.ap/index.html chris rock explains oscar comments - aaron
[2005-02-22 12:27:42] - meatloaf is pretty sketchy. isnt it just all the odds and ends smushed together? - aba
[2005-02-22 10:30:37] - http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=knight-korverconnectswithsixersf&prov=knight&type=lgns Kyle Korver seems like a pretty cool guy (except for the fact that he won't eat meatloaf
). -Paul[2005-02-22 09:52:42] - aba: I didn't get the holiday (and my birthday) off. I just didn't have anything to post. -Paul
[2005-02-22 09:20:57] - oh yah, i forgot people actually get holidays off.
- aba[2005-02-22 07:27:01] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/21/scotus.eminent.domain/index.html eminent domain case -dave
[2005-02-21 22:39:32] - aba: the title has been changed five times and lots of people have today off. ~a
[2005-02-21 19:13:23] - slow day? - aba
[2005-02-21 12:11:51] - kow ~a
[2005-02-21 08:21:44] - a: http://www.livejournal.com/users/arichnad/friends - aba
[2005-02-21 08:21:34] - a: adding people to your friends list is also helpful because you can read everything all at once on your friends page. - aba
[2005-02-18 15:14:33] - http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/3402708 NBA imposes alcohol limits and fan code of conduct -dave
[2005-02-18 13:48:46] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/18/death.row.dog.ap/index.html Dog granted clemency -dave
[2005-02-18 13:31:38] - http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/18/news/midcaps/blockbuster_suit/index.htm?cnn=yes Blockbuster sued over allegedly deceiving customers with its new 'No More Late Fees' rental policy.
[2005-02-18 11:46:28] - a: i was pissed off about some stuff. - aba
[2005-02-18 11:23:37] - aba: why did you delete? ~a
[2005-02-18 11:17:51] - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/marty_burns/02/17/trade.tracker/index.html Some intriguing NBA trade possibilities. Especially the rumors involving Walker and Artest. -Paul
[2005-02-18 10:11:46] - http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Taxes/Preparationtips/P105690.asp?GT1=6190 Can you turn to the IRS for tax help? -Paul
[2005-02-18 09:24:20] - mel: thanks. I added you a while ago and then came to the conclusion that you probably weren't ever going to update again
- vinnie[2005-02-18 09:02:09] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050217-4624.html MS recalls older Xbox power cords -dave
[2005-02-18 09:01:06] - I'm not sure I quite agree with the idea that totally oblivious jurors are better than ones that are knowledgeable. I suppose the catch is that stuff you get off the internet can be so unreliable -dave
[2005-02-18 09:00:06] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050217-4627.html?29787 rape conviction overturned because judge found some articles that a juror had researched on the internet on rape and had printed out and brought to the jury deliberations -dave
[2005-02-18 08:27:38] - for those who hadn't heard, we beat Duke in basketball http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/basketball/ncaa/02/17/bc.bkc.duke.vatech.ap/index.html?cnn=yes -dave
[2005-02-18 08:26:57] - not that I'm for raising taxes, I'd probably be for cutting benefits more, but as cutting benefits has no feasible chance of being done, then you have to get money from somewhere to pay for a 'fix' -dave
[2005-02-18 08:25:59] - if they use it to 'fix' the program, like say using it to pay for the transition to private accounts, then I'm all for it -dave
[2005-02-18 08:25:41] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33033-2005Feb17.html Bush's suggestion to raise SS taxes on first $90k of income to first $200k of income opposed by top Repubs. Personally, I don't think it's such a bad idea, as long as they don't use the money to try to expand benefits etc. -dave
[2005-02-18 08:23:06] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33211-2005Feb17.html class action lawsuits moved from state to federal court. Apparently federal courts are much less sympathetic to the suits -dave
[2005-02-18 08:21:23] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33297-2005Feb17.html Japan to join US on Taiwan policy -dave
[2005-02-17 18:58:34] - by the way, amusing title.
-mel[2005-02-17 18:51:09] - a: I added you and travis and vinnie. cool. maybe I'll start writing in lj again, now.
-mel[2005-02-17 18:48:25] - a: you missed out though..... i deleted a lot of old entries not tha tlong ago so there isnt much to read there right now. - aba
[2005-02-17 18:45:53] - a: im weird. i like my lists to be even. hahah. - aba
[2005-02-17 18:43:19] - done, but it's pretty pointless to have me as a friend . . . since i don't have anything to flock. ~a
[2005-02-17 18:38:09] - a: i expect an add-back.
- aba[2005-02-17 18:32:33] - a: there you go.... i added you. - aba
[2005-02-17 18:28:02] - mel_aba: yes, i'm arichnad. ~a
[2005-02-17 17:51:44] - aba: thanks.
-mel[2005-02-17 17:51:26] - aba: hmm, cool. I will check that out.... -mel
[2005-02-17 17:47:29] - mel: actually a lot of them have lj accounts now (if you look at your profile) - aba
[2005-02-17 17:45:53] - a: thats why I said flocking wouldn't really work for me. I only have maybe 3 friends listed anyway and the people who were reading my blog (you guys) don't even really use lj. So I need a better solution. -mel
[2005-02-17 17:45:20] - a: you cant add people unless they have an account. - aba
[2005-02-17 17:44:12] - a: are you an lj user? -mel
[2005-02-17 17:34:30] - i'm not a friend
~a[2005-02-17 17:23:25] - aba: I know. well I like reading your blog. I think in your case flocking works better than it would for me. -mel
[2005-02-17 16:51:33] - mel: yeah, i flock almost all my posts. - aba
[2005-02-17 16:31:32] - aba: I dunno, I decided it maybe wasn't such a good idea to have a blog, as fun as it is. it's too public. Maybe something friends-locked would be a good option, but at that point tha barrier would be too high for probably anyone to read it. I haven't figured out a good solution.
-mel[2005-02-17 15:34:55] - mig: no I don't know what the specific text is -dave
[2005-02-17 13:09:58] - http://www.local6.com/news/4198694/detail.html Woman Sued Over Pregnant Stomach Ad Space -Paul
[2005-02-17 11:28:56] - *enumerating a right already posessed --Xpovos
[2005-02-17 11:28:28] - Mig: maybe I do too, I'm not sure. I find irony in enumerating a protectiong already posessed. There's absolutely nothing anyone can do against silent prayer, and even vocal prayer would be considered protected free speech under 99% of the circumstances -- Xpovos
[2005-02-17 10:36:53] - dave: btw do you know what the actual text of the amendment that this guy wants to introduce? the post doesn't seem to be all that forthcoming about it in the article. - mig
[2005-02-17 09:47:51] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050216-4621.html Internal Intel blog becomes public. -Paul
[2005-02-17 09:20:01] - dave: i suppose i'm the only one seeing the irony in this making prayer a right thing... - mig
[2005-02-17 08:58:15] - http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B595C3119%2D9835%2D46F0%2DBF39%2D569E420E9F3E%7D&siteid=mktw&dist= jobless claims at 4 year low -dave
[2005-02-17 07:57:50] - pesky asians -dave
[2005-02-17 07:57:32] - http://news.com.com/U.S.%2Btech%2Bedge%2Bgetting%2Bdull%2C%2Bcompanies%2Bsay/2100-1028_3-5579710.html?tag=nefd.top , http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050217-4623.html US tech leadership on the decline -dave
[2005-02-17 07:37:11] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30695-2005Feb16.html VA proposal to make praying a right. -dave
[2005-02-17 06:37:47] - mel: thanks! -dave
[2005-02-16 18:40:10] - aba: Same with George Mason and Richard Byrd. Hell, the covers of the romance books come close to porn sometimes. -Paul
[2005-02-16 18:23:34] - mel: how come you dont write on your lj anymore? - aba
[2005-02-16 18:07:51] - paul: i dunno, but im pretty sure both of those couldve been found at kings park. - aba
[2005-02-16 18:02:43] - Would an art book that had pictures of painting of naked people be considered porn? How about a National Geographic cover showing some naked tribal people? -Paul
[2005-02-16 18:00:32] - aba: That's pretty much what I was (unsuccessfully) trying to say. Some people may not want minors to see porn but they also aren't comfortable with the library censoring things because it's a power that could easily be abused. -Paul
[2005-02-16 17:56:53] - i spose theres a feeling that public libraries should be impartial when it comes to such issues. - aba
[2005-02-16 17:56:33] - paul: i think people fear that if you censor one thing at s public library, that opens the door for the censorship of controversial books like lolita or the adventures of huckleberry finn.... or even non-fiction titles pertaining to topics like evolution, etc. - aba
[2005-02-16 17:14:21] - dave: So I think you just need to type "toggle options", then "open <hostname>" and "close." Then write down all the codes and look up what the options stand for. I would google for some kind of reference sheet of telnet codes. good luck.
-mel[2005-02-16 17:12:55] - dave: IAC stands for Interpret As Command. -mel
[2005-02-16 17:12:31] - dave: Some commands have sub-options, which utilize the SB (suboption Negotiation) code. These commands would look like this: 255 (IAC), 250 (SB), blah, blah. For example: 255 (IAC), 250 (SB), 32 (TERMINAL SPEED), 10. -mel
[2005-02-16 17:10:05] - dave: so in the previous example the option is "Supress Go Ahead" -mel
[2005-02-16 17:09:21] - dave: I tried "open <hostname>" on my Linux virtual machine and got about 30 command sequences. A standard telnet command is made of 3 bytes: IAC, <type of operation>, <option>. For example: 255 (IAC), 253 (DO), 3 (SUPRESS GO AHEAD). -mel
[2005-02-16 17:08:35] - Vinnie: And nobody cares.
-Paul[2005-02-16 17:04:44] - dave: When using Linux telnet, "toggle options" causes telnet to print the 3 byte command sequences for every operation you perform after that. For example, if you type "open <hostname>" after having toggled options on, you will see the following display: "SENT DO SUPRESS GO AHEAD\r SENT WILL TERMINAL TYPE\r SENT WILL NAWS..... etc" -mel
[2005-02-16 16:54:31] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1992793 2004-05 NHL season cancelled - vinnie
[2005-02-16 16:35:13] - dave: use linux. ~a
[2005-02-16 16:24:47] - dave: yeah, it's a feature that microsoft doesn't support. forgive me for not being surprised. ~a
[2005-02-16 16:11:25] - a: I'm not sure which to be honest, but microsoft telnet doesn't seem to let you do 'toggle options' so I guess that's not it -dave
[2005-02-16 16:00:46] - in netkit's help it says toggle options "toggle viewing of options processing (debugging)" what options processing is i do not know. ~a
[2005-02-16 16:00:00] - dave: which telnet? microsoft's telnet or netkit's telnet? ~a
[2005-02-16 15:58:59] - and how are any of those commands using the debugging functions? Or am I supposed to know what the debugging functions are and use them? -dave
[2005-02-16 15:57:25] - I don't get what part of those commands are options? -dave
[2005-02-16 15:57:08] - can someone explain telnet options to me? I have a HW asignment that says to capture network traffic from using telnet debugging functions and explain what the options are for the following sequence of commands: telnet>help, telnet>toggle options telnet>open <hostname> then close connection -dave
[2005-02-16 15:54:09] - vinnie_aaron: i'm actually already double booked that day/time (both work events actually) . . . damn
~a[2005-02-16 15:21:18] - aaron, a: Wednesday, Feb 23rd, 7:00 pm - vinnie
[2005-02-16 14:18:08] - Dave: Or maybe some people want to look at porn at the library but still don't think minors should be able to see it. -Paul
[2005-02-16 14:16:19] - Dave: I dunno, maybe people think it's a waste of taxpayer money or maybe people think the library is some hallowed building of knowledge that should not be censored. -Paul
[2005-02-16 14:08:20] - Paul: well, the 'other reasons' were what I was interested in hearing, cuz I couldn't think of any -dave
[2005-02-16 13:58:23] - Dave: Well, I was going to give that reason (ineffectiveness) as the big reason I could see people being against it, but I'm sure there are other reasons too. -Paul
[2005-02-16 13:51:30] - Paul: why's that? even if the filters were guaranteed to only exclude porn? (which I don't think they can) -dave
[2005-02-16 13:38:53] - Dave: Not sure, but I don't think so. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is though. Either way, I could easily see somebody being against filters while still thinking porn should be illegal for minors. -Paul
[2005-02-16 13:37:16] - paul: it's not illegal for a parent to rent porn and show it to his kid, is it? -dave
[2005-02-16 13:36:45] - paul: parental consent I think. -dave
[2005-02-16 13:36:29] - a: that's kinda strange, I don't get the rationale for that -dave
[2005-02-16 13:01:03] - dave: microsoft's stock has gone down like a % since they announced their new browser. ~a
[2005-02-16 12:56:13] - Dave: I'm sure there are people who think that. Although a lot depends on what you mean by porn being illegal for minors. Just that they need parental consent to get porn or that they aren't allowed to watch it at all (even if the parents approve of it). -Paul
[2005-02-16 12:44:56] - Paul: really? I wonder if anyone who agrees with porn being illegal for minors thinks there should be no filter -dave
[2005-02-16 12:44:35] - http://www.reason.com/0502/cr.js.doctor.shtml A short piece on Alfred C. Kinsey -Paul
[2005-02-16 12:43:34] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/16/tv.startrek.ap/index.html Trekkies fight end of 'Enterprise' -dave
[2005-02-16 12:40:05] - http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/16/retirement/fed_socialsecurity/index.htm?cnn=yes Greenspan supports private accounts for Social Security, but calls for gradual adoption -dave
[2005-02-16 12:37:20] - Dave: As far as I know, filtering library computers is still something that is debated, regardless of how feasible it is. -Paul
[2005-02-16 12:36:39] - http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050214-121803-2322r.htm In love and madness -Paul
[2005-02-16 12:25:23] - Paul: didn't the whole filtering library computers issue come up several years ago? I thought it was decided that it was infeasible since no filter existed that blocked solely porn sites -dave
[2005-02-16 12:24:05] - vinnie: what day/time? ~a
[2005-02-16 12:23:43] - http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20050209-113152-2518r.htm Sex-ed battles raging in region -Paul
[2005-02-16 12:19:23] - http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20050214-104614-3071r.htm Drivers face fine for exposing porn videos -Paul
[2005-02-16 12:10:03] - vinnie: I'd be interested in that. - aaron
[2005-02-16 09:47:11] - a: Except we don't have magical powers. -Paul
[2005-02-16 09:29:38] - http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=7640538 MS plans IE7, increased security -dave
[2005-02-16 09:10:17] - aaron, a: interested in hitting that tmbg show next week up? borders though, that's a weird place - vinnie
[2005-02-15 20:33:47] - paul: it's like elves. ~a
[2005-02-15 17:53:54] - a: Or at least not die of natural causes. I'm still wagering on humanity finding a way to kill itself off somehow. -Paul
[2005-02-15 17:50:46] - since he's 33 years older than us, he can be off by 20 years and we can still afford to be 13 years less healthy than his lifestyle and still live forever. ~a
[2005-02-15 17:49:19] - yeah, if this guy can live forever, i think we won't have much of a problem. ~a
[2005-02-15 17:41:37] - Aaron: I'm crossing my fingers that my heart can hold out for 20 more years.
-Paul[2005-02-15 17:36:10] - paul: Interesting read. - aaron
[2005-02-15 17:20:00] - http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=127158 Inventor Kurzweil Aiming to Live Forever -Paul
[2005-02-15 14:55:23] - vinnie: Hadn't heard of that, that sounds pretty funny though. If it's anything like No! then it's welcome in my collection - aaron
[2005-02-15 14:42:44] - vinnie: tmbg are actually playing a free show to support that album at the borders by my work, the date was sometime next week, i believe - travis
[2005-02-15 13:43:29] - aaron: you heard of this? http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:ps967uq040jg~T1 - vinnie
[2005-02-15 08:33:42] - http://www.businessweek.com/print/bwdaily/dnflash/feb2005/nf20050211_0210.htm?chan=db& more analysis on why fiorina failed - aba
[2005-02-14 16:41:59] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050209-4599.html Sirius courting Apple on iPod including sat-radio. so far no-go -dave
[2005-02-14 16:41:17] - "...against the backdrop of SCO's plethora of public statements concerning IBM's and others' infringement of SCO's purported copyrights to the Unix software, it is astonishing that SCO has not offered any competent evidence to create a disputed fact regarding whether IBM has infringed SCO's alleged copyrights through IBM's Linux activities." -dave
[2005-02-14 16:40:38] - "Despite the vast disparity between SCO's public accusations and its actual evidence--or complete lack thereof--and the resulting temptation to grant IBM's motion, the court has determined that it would be premature to grant summary judgment," -dave
[2005-02-14 16:40:19] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050210-4600.html Judge smacks SCO on lack of evidence, but rejects IBM's request for summary judgement -dave
[2005-02-14 16:38:17] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050210-4601.html National Lampoon to release DVD of their mobie Blackball 4 days after it is in theatres -dave
[2005-02-14 16:36:52] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050210-4603.html Parents in CA fighting mandatory RFID for elemtary school kids -dave
[2005-02-14 16:35:27] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050212-4607.html Oracle and some other companies to charge per-core for their licenses. MS to charge per processor. Per core? Seems kinda stupid (in view of the impending multicore processors) -dave
[2005-02-14 10:13:46] - Does anybody here know a good buyer's real estate agent that works in Fairfax county? Maybe specializing in Springfield and Burke? -Paul
[2005-02-13 22:04:19] - a: Thanks yes, SAIC has told us all about that. It sucks. - aaron
[2005-02-13 21:37:17] - aaron: many saic employees and their problems with identity theft http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/02/13/185234.shtml?tid=158 ~a
[2005-02-12 12:31:23] - It's been a season! And I'm back in the playoffs for the third consecutive year. A substantial improvment over the real Redskins. -- Xpovos
[2005-02-11 16:57:25] - Xpovos: Regardless of your reasons, the point is that you dismantled your team as soon as you won the big one and you haven't been back to the big dance since.
-Paul[2005-02-11 16:49:46] - Paul: I also traded away my starting ILB. Don't forget. I made all those trades to keep myself under the cap because of the Portis trade. -- Xpovos
[2005-02-11 16:38:34] - Travis: They were the team that got destroyed by the chiefs, I think. Something like 50-23? -Paul
[2005-02-11 16:33:39] - paul: the falcons, the real paper tiger, anyone else remember 6-3 against the cardinals? and yet they were the second best team in the nfc... - travis
[2005-02-11 16:27:12] - Travis: You're just playing Patriot football. -Paul
[2005-02-11 16:26:04] - Xpovos: You traded away your starting QB and RB and #2 WR, not to mention all those other people you got rid of. -Paul
[2005-02-11 16:24:37] - Travis: Didn't the real life chiefs blow out some teams by 50+ points this season?
-Paul[2005-02-11 16:15:17] - xpovos: the steelers blow out division rivals in real life? - travis
[2005-02-11 16:14:41] - and it's not like portis is giving a top notch performance for me, so andrew probably made a good deal there - travis
[2005-02-11 16:14:30] - Travis: Same as that paper-tiger that went 15-1. Which Miguel still has a chance of doing. -- Xpovos
[2005-02-11 16:13:56] - meanwhile i'm happy winning 10-3 against the bills - travis
[2005-02-11 16:13:44] - Paul: I didn't dismantle the Redskins. I traded a non-performing RB to a team that desperately needed on, cut several players who were making no improvment, including many older players who were drawing hefty salaries for sitting on the bench. -- Xpovos
[2005-02-11 16:13:41] - paul: a paper tiger who blows a division rivals by 50+ at least once a season
- travis[2005-02-11 15:31:33] - Hell, this year's team is exactly the same as last year's superbowl winning team except it has improvements at CB and TE and Favre has been replaced by Ortega (who is actually performing better). -Paul
[2005-02-11 15:30:42] - I think the Packers aren't getting enough respect. After all, we ARE the reigning champs and it's not like we dismantled our team as soon as we won it like the Redskins did last year. -Paul
[2005-02-11 15:27:09] - In all fairness, I got swept by the Eagles. And I've yet to beat Paul or Miguel in a regular season game. And I lost to the Giants, which Miguel and Paul both crushed. On the other hand... I did shut out the Bears. In Chicago. -- Xpovos
[2005-02-11 15:18:33] - Mig: And how many superbowls have the mighty Ravens won? -Paul
[2005-02-11 15:15:31] - paul: you're one to talk, mr. "i got swept by the bears this season". - mig
[2005-02-11 15:02:51] - Travis: I'll remind her about the book.
And first things first. I gotta ram the Ram's injuries down their throat. -- Xpovos[2005-02-11 14:54:37] - Travis: Bah, the real matchup between the top two teams is in the NFC Championship game. The Ravens are a paper tiger! -paul
[2005-02-11 14:49:00] - paul: especially this sunday, when an afc team finally breaks through the nfc dominance (i don't care if miguel wins it, so long as it's not you or andrew again) - travis
[2005-02-11 14:47:21] - xpovos: just make sure she's more careful with her book
- travis[2005-02-11 13:17:04] - Travis, mig, paul: On for tonight 100% now. May arrive slightly past 7PM, but I'm third, so no huge loss. Will be bringing Katie. -- Xpovos
[2005-02-11 12:30:47] - paul: ok thanks. - aba
[2005-02-11 11:55:41] - aba: It's possible we'll grab a bite to eat and/or play some pool afterwards but usually such things don't get planned in advanced and just kinda happen. As for Sunday, I almost always have other plans so it's very unlikely that I'll be planning anything this Sunday. -Paul
[2005-02-11 11:54:38] - aba: Heh, it's no problem. Usually about half the people I invite can't make it for various reasons. -Paul
[2005-02-11 11:51:45] - paul: just saw your emails. unfortunately, i told my dad i would go hang out with him saturday afternoon while he gets fitted for a suit.
let me know if you guys end up doing something later or on sunday. - aba[2005-02-10 16:02:42] - for instance searching for "tpa" gets you tampa international airport, and then typing "dance dance revolution" finds you the phone number and address of "beach gameland", a nearby arcade - aaron
[2005-02-10 16:00:28] - http://maps.google.com/ beta release of google maps - locate stores by name or keyword, search for cities and airports nationally, it's really fun to play with - aaron
[2005-02-10 13:51:50] - http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=488125 North Koera admits it has nuclear weapons. -mel
[2005-02-10 09:56:37] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6942867/ Pentagon inquiry confirms sexual tactics -Paul
[2005-02-10 09:54:50] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6448213/did/6928800/?GT1=6190 Some children like the idea of "titillating" other online users -Paul
[2005-02-09 19:38:51] - from another source "she ruined the two most important and legendary research organizations of the 20th century: Bell Labs and HP. Why any board would agree to hire the former chief of Lucent is beyond me" ~a
[2005-02-09 19:34:14] - supposedly she was a really crappy ceo. this is from TWO years ago, http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=8472_0_1_0_C ~a
[2005-02-09 17:37:19] - aba: Alright. - aaron
[2005-02-09 17:33:24] - aaron: female CEOs are more common in smaller companies. she was significant because HP is such a large corporation. - aba
[2005-02-09 17:29:49] - aba: Oh, I get it now. I thought "component of the dow jones industrial average" was just business-speak for "dow jones" - aaron
[2005-02-09 17:26:24] - aaron: "Only female CEO of a corporation listed in the Dow Jones index" is incorrect.... she was the only female CEO of the 30 companies used to calculate the industrial index average. - aba
[2005-02-09 17:24:25] - (triple negative = new high score!)
[2005-02-09 17:24:06] - a: I guess i understand how you can differentiate, because it's the first woman president (a landmark) versus like, the only current woman CEO. Being president is a bigger deal. But i still think i'm making a point that just because someone doesn't get elected because of X, doesn't mean that X doesn't make the story more interesting - aaron
[2005-02-09 17:23:00] - a: I had almost pretty even male/female teacher ratios, except in elementary school (slightly more women) and high school (slightly more men...) are school boards really slanted that way? - aaron
[2005-02-09 17:22:45] - a: But being elected had nothing to do with her being a woman, so why is it significant? - aaron
[2005-02-09 17:21:26] - i.e. school boards. ~a
[2005-02-09 17:20:40] - aaron: education maybe? ~a
[2005-02-09 17:17:45] - aaron: sure. because it's the first woman president. but then four years later when she's ousted, i don't think it's anything magical. that's imo, though. ~a
[2005-02-09 17:16:55] - a: I can't think of a suitable career of enough importance that is still dominated by women in the same way that being CEO of large corporations is dominated by men. But if such a career existed, and similar events happened, I think it would be news - aaron
[2005-02-09 17:14:57] - a: If there were a woman elected president, would that be significant? - aaron
[2005-02-09 17:14:20] - what if the situation was reversed and it was a popular male role model in a mostly female career. would it have been news? would anyone care, or would society cheer the downfall of the male trying to push females out of one of the few fields they have? ~a
[2005-02-09 16:59:21] - hmm take "is significant" out of there - vinnie
[2005-02-09 16:58:37] - the firing doesn't have (shouldn't have?) anything to do with her sex. the fact that she was someone who people looked up to is significant is hinges almost entirely on the fact that she is a woman - vinnie
[2005-02-09 16:57:37] - haha that first link was me trying to read the rules on fair use of RSS feeds
- vinnie[2005-02-09 16:57:33] - vinnie: but she was probably fired based on her merits, not on her sex. i don't see how sex has anything to do with this. ~a
[2005-02-09 16:55:44] - the first paragraph mentions she was a "popular symbol of women in big business" so it makes sense that her being fired has more significance than, say, a male CEO of HP - vinnie
[2005-02-09 16:54:49] - oops http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10295-2005Feb9.html?nav=rss_business - vinnie
[2005-02-09 16:54:36] - a: I would still argue her being a women in this case is significant http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?node=admin/registration/register&destination=membersAgreement - vinnie
[2005-02-09 16:46:36] - aaron: ok, fair enough. i was more referring to the description of the link than the article itself. ~a
[2005-02-09 16:45:25] - a: And in the story's defense I think they mention the fact that she was a woman, like, once. . . The story itself seemed to really be more about HP's past performance and what a bad job she did - aaron
[2005-02-09 16:43:55] - If it's the former, then i agree. If it's the latter, then I'd say the story is definitely significant to HP stockholders, HP employees, the woman who was fired, potential investors, and people with money in competing tech stocks - aaron
[2005-02-09 16:42:45] - a: Are you trying to argue that your mock-definition of news isn't 100% accurate, or are you trying to argue that the story itself holds no signifigance - aaron
[2005-02-09 16:35:10] - aaron: i disagree. i think news needs to be interesting too. i can find tons of uninteresting and uncommon things that aren't news. ~a
[2005-02-09 16:34:10] - Sexual abuse, not news. Sexual abuse involving catholic priest, news. CEO loses job, not news. Only female CEO of a corporation listed in the Dow Jones index, news. - aaron
[2005-02-09 16:30:07] - a: Yes, that's more or less the definition of news - aaron
[2005-02-09 16:25:58] - shouldn't it not matter that she's female? i'll bet she really really doesn't want to be singled out as a female right now. ~a
[2005-02-09 16:25:18] - because it's uncommon makes it news? ~a
[2005-02-09 16:18:18] - a: because it's uncommon to for women to hold high-level management roles in large businesses? - aaron
[2005-02-09 16:11:02] - mel: why does it matter that she's a woman? ~a
[2005-02-09 15:55:21] - http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=988061&tw=wn_wire_story HP CEO Fiorina (pretty much the only woman CEO for a top 30 Fortune company) got fired today. -mel
[2005-02-09 14:27:08] - Aaron: Yeah, you would hope divorce isn't as common in a plural marriage like that or else the husband is really screwed. -Paul
[2005-02-09 14:21:38] - Paul: They have a good point that plural marriage would really mess up alimony something awful! - aaron
[2005-02-09 13:49:10] - http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2005/02/03/news/regional/5908fda25b845a2787256f9d007bdb6e.txt Supreme Court questions Utah bigamy law in case against officer -Paul
[2005-02-09 13:45:33] - http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/ap/2005/02/05/ap1807472.html Developer Sues Sex Offender on Sales Loss -Paul
[2005-02-09 13:44:29] - http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Feb-05-Sat-2005/news/25808494.html A UNLV professor under fire for comments he made about homosexuals during a class lecture last year demanded Friday that the university stop threatening to punish him. -Paul
[2005-02-09 13:43:20] - lisa: nope, she's still looking - vinnie
[2005-02-09 12:36:31] - This is Lisa by the way
...I just gave her resume to someone[2005-02-09 12:36:09] - Vinnie - Does Amy have a job yet?
[2005-02-09 09:38:03] - a: I thought you implemented something that would color in only the addressees? maybe I dreamed it? - vinnie
[2005-02-08 15:41:06] - http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-superbowl-adpulled&prov=ap&type=lgns Racy ad pulled after Super Bowl airing -Paul
[2005-02-08 15:11:51] - vinnie: what did you want to happen? if i allow spaces in the addressee section, then anything would get colored in. ~a
[2005-02-08 14:42:23] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/02/08/radio.tsunami.ap/index.html Station still reeling from tsunami parody - aaron
[2005-02-08 14:37:43] - aaron: adrian implemented it sometime. I really don't remember the syntax though - vinnie
[2005-02-08 14:35:05] - vinnie: I thought it didn't work, and that's why we made up those weird hybrid nicknames for people, like celtics_69 - aaron
[2005-02-08 13:59:13] - Vinnie: It could've possibly been a joke, but it would seem not. At least it was only three people. -Paul
[2005-02-08 13:55:51] - a: hey I thought that used to work... did I get the syntax wrong? - vinnie
[2005-02-08 13:55:25] - aaron, paul: my god. people really have that little to do than to complain about last year's show? - vinnie
[2005-02-08 13:52:53] - mig: yes, the ads are very easy to ignore. I think I've already learned to tune banners out and they are in the same position - vinnie
[2005-02-08 13:52:25] - aaron: I'm on gmail. my address is _nickname_._lastname_@gmail.com in case you care but I still check and use vt as well. you only get the ads if you use gmail - vinnie
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[2005-02-08 13:11:03] - vinnie: until you mentioned it, i did not notice at all that gmail shows you ads. - mig
[2005-02-08 10:16:57] - Aaron: Yeah, I think the lesson learned is to ignore people who complain.
-Paul[2005-02-08 10:05:57] - "And three were still so riled up about last year's halftime show, they felt compelled to complain about Jackson again, just for good measure."
- aaron[2005-02-08 10:02:26] - http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3382388 Some viewers complained that this year's halftime show was boring. -Paul
[2005-02-08 09:56:44] - vinnie: so you're on gmail? or are these ads in her responses - aaron
[2005-02-08 09:41:21] - like I mentioned "sweet charity" to Amy w/o mentioning the name of the group and it gave me ads for Mr. Bungle and Faith No More CDs - vinnie
[2005-02-08 09:39:31] - on that tip, is anyone ever creeped out by g-mail ad suggestions. sometimes I don't know how the hell they pick stuff out of there - vinnie
[2005-02-08 08:02:00] - a: Ha! - aaron
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