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[2005-10-27 17:25:29] - pierce:  i think you could be a fine lawyer! have you thought about law school?  -sam

[2005-10-27 14:56:23] - But I don't think "people who drink a lot immediately prior to driving" are the best logical support for arguments against anti-drunk-driving laws. - pierce

[2005-10-27 14:56:05] - aaron: the only way that would happen, as I understand it, is like anonymous said... if you've consumed a lot of alcohol but it's still in your stomach while you're driving... it moves to your bloodstream after a certain latency period. - pierce

[2005-10-27 14:53:18] - aaron: but in that case, this isn't the judicial paradox the article makes it out to be.  the legislature need only modify the law to establish testing guidelines, like how long after the stop the breath test can be administered and still be valid evidence. - pierce

[2005-10-27 14:51:36] - pierce: I don't know enough about how BAC relates to "drunkenness". All they said in the article was that BAC can rise after the person is pulled over.... I don't really know about why that happens or how common that is - aaron

[2005-10-27 14:49:56] - It sounds like he was contesting the results of the tests because they were administered too late, or administered improperly. And since it's a criminal case, I'm beginning to understand his side more - aaron

[2005-10-27 14:49:51] - BAC can actually rise during those hours, but it generally involves lots of heavy drinking right before leaving.

[2005-10-27 14:48:49] - aaron: the only thing I can gather here is that the judge objects to the assumption that a BAC>limit taken two hours after the stop proves that BAC>limit at the time of driving.  Which doesn't seem like a particularly strong argument. - pierce

[2005-10-27 14:46:02] - My priest-boss shoots kittens for fun. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-27 14:45:46] - aaron:  actually it's not.  in fact, judges (as well as juries) have the authority to throw out a conviction if they feel a particular law is moronic or anti-freedom, . - mig

[2005-10-27 14:43:31] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_Driving The first generally-accepted legal limit for blood alcohol concentration (BAC) was 1.50. - aaron

[2005-10-27 14:42:40] - I kind of understand the "presumption" arguments, although I wonder, if administering a BAC test constitutes a presumption that the person was drunk, then how would you ever prove that someone was drunk? - aaron

[2005-10-27 14:36:23] - pierce: I didn't know judges were allowed to say "well this is against the law, but i'm going to let you do it..." I mean i definitely agree that it's stupid to imprison/fine people when their BAC is at "rum cake levels" but i think correcting the law is someone else's responsibility - aaron

[2005-10-27 13:23:46] - it looks like this is the statute... the only discrepancy I can see with the practice is the effect of the time delay on BAC.  I don't see any problem with an ambiguously-defined use of "intoxication". - pierce

[2005-10-27 13:10:20] - pierce:  i don't know; but from the article, it seems like the former.  ~a

[2005-10-27 13:10:13] - because I'd agree if it's just worded as an ambiguously-defined "intoxicated" and the prosecutors are simply acting under the assumption that the BAC measurement is representative of intoxication.  but that'd be some poorly-written legislation (not that I'd be surprised). - pierce

[2005-10-27 13:08:55] - Maybe I'm not clear on the drunk driving laws... are they worded such that you must be "intoxicated" to be convicted, or are they worded such that you must have a BAC over a certain number within a certain timeframe of the stop? - pierce

[2005-10-27 13:06:44] - No other judge in Fairfax -- or elsewhere in Virginia, as far as can be determined -- has joined O'Flaherty. But the judge said some other jurists have told him they agree with him. "I had one judge tell me, 'I'd rule that way, but I don't have the guts to,' " O'Flaherty said. "I told him, 'You should be driving a truck.' "  oh, burn!  ~a

[2005-10-27 11:02:55] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/26/AR2005102602255.html Bernanke: There's No Housing Bubble to Go Bust. -Paul

[2005-10-27 10:33:26] - that judge rules. he is teh r0x0r. - mig

[2005-10-27 10:28:28] - paul:  surprised?  not now.  this has been an inevitability for quite a while now. - mig

[2005-10-27 10:09:28] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/26/AR2005102602572.html Maverick N.Va. Judge Tosses Out DWI Cases That Presume Guilt. -Paul

[2005-10-27 10:02:39] - Mig: Wow, I'm actually surprised by that decision. -Paul

[2005-10-27 09:57:46] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/10/25/human.remote.control.ap/index.html japan developing remote control for humans - aaron

[2005-10-27 09:38:16] - amy: Yesm - ddr_people

[2005-10-27 09:37:04] - ddr_people: i am going to DDR today to pay homage to captain jack. is it still at 5.45? -amy

[2005-10-27 09:30:57] - http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&u=/nm/20051027/pl_nm/court_miers_dc_9 miers withdraws her name as a supreme court nominee. - mig

[2005-10-26 19:38:28] - paul: yah, 4th season. Amy and I are doing crazy month-long album in Nov so I might just borrow it after that as not to give myself a distraction :) - vinnie

[2005-10-26 17:46:11] - sam:  i'll email you directions.  ~a

[2005-10-26 17:32:32] - a: home address that is... for poker.... -sam

[2005-10-26 17:32:15] - a: what's your address? -sam

[2005-10-26 17:24:47] - paul: it just has wily kit from thunder kats -sam

[2005-10-26 17:20:55] - pierce: my dentist is in Vienna and has been for a while. I like him a lot though and Dewey actually goes to him too - vinnie

[2005-10-26 17:04:16] - Pierce: Did you know that Pam from The Office is also in Slither? -Paul

[2005-10-26 16:57:51] - Xpovos: One page is all it takes. ;-) -Paul

[2005-10-26 16:56:32] - Paul: Don't get your hopes up.  There pretty much is only the first page. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-26 16:47:28] - not that you asked me anyways.  ~a

[2005-10-26 16:47:15] - pierce:  i've had the same dentist for ~24 years.  ~a

[2005-10-26 16:43:17] - people living around the fair oaks area: did you switch dentists to someone closer by when you moved out of your parents' places?  if so, any recommendations?  I feel like I'm overdue for an appointment. - pierce

[2005-10-26 15:46:33] - Xpovos: That's what Vinnie said. I can't wait to get home. :-) -Paul

[2005-10-26 15:37:06] - Paul: Of the first page of results I would say 4 are arguably NSFW.    And this is with the safe search feature on. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-26 15:28:33] - then *add* white noise.  i have one of those for sleeping purposes.  :)  ~a

[2005-10-26 15:25:43] - a: I have the opposite problem... all my noise is people on the phone in adjacent cubicles or meeting in nearby conference rooms or talking in the corridors.  not predictable.  the white noise is minimal, which is most of the reason it's so unignorable. - pierce

[2005-10-26 15:13:43] - pierce:  the ones i linked to are really good.  in a noisy environment where the sound is predictable, like fans or engines, you can hear people easier when you're wearing them than when you're not.  ~a

[2005-10-26 15:11:09] - a: and I've thought about noise reduction headphones, but they're so much money, and I'm liable to miss things I want to hear. - pierce

[2005-10-26 15:09:21] - a: good idea, but... blech, tuna?  yuck.  blargch.  I think I'll get some eel. - pierce

[2005-10-26 15:05:18] - pierce:  sushi.  yum tuna.  ~a

[2005-10-26 15:04:22] - one of my coworkers that traveled to there a bunch bought these expensive bug good noise reduction headphones for that exact problem.  ~a

[2005-10-26 15:04:18] - pierce:  i worked in a computer room like that in colorado once (i was on travel).  the decible level of the fans was actually a health hazard.  ~a

[2005-10-26 15:03:57] - what should I have for dinner tonight? - pierce

[2005-10-26 15:00:09] - the noise pollution in my company's new office is just awful... like "I feel like I'm trying to program on the floor of the new york stock exchange" awful.  It's making me nuts.  And people wonder why I work from home so often. - pierce

[2005-10-26 14:35:47] - Anybody want to do a google image search for "Wily Kit" and report back to me what you find? I've heard it's not safe for work. :-) -Paul

[2005-10-26 14:12:55] - a: I tried that a while back, it didn't seem to have much of an effect. - pierce

[2005-10-26 14:03:26] - although setting the cpu priority usually helps (because when you starve the cpu time of an application, it usually doesn't have time to steal away your harddrive)  ~a

[2005-10-26 13:59:46] - pierce:  set the cpu priority?  (i really wish you could set priority on resources like harddrive access and network access)  ~a

[2005-10-26 13:57:08] - a: agreed... this application is annoying because it takes about 45 minutes to run through its entire process.  during that time, it is using 100% CPU and reading like crazygonuts from the hard drive.  as a result, everything I type takes about ten seconds to appear on screen (and god help web page rendering), so my productivity goes to 1%. - pierce

[2005-10-26 13:48:00] - yawn.  ~a

[2005-10-26 10:29:28] - Vinnie: Are you going to want to borrow the fourth season from me sometime soon then? -Paul

[2005-10-26 10:13:59] - This movie looks self-consciously campy, and may be very good.  It's also got Nathan Fillion, which makes me glad Firefliers are getting work. http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/slither/ (may require quicktime) - pierce

[2005-10-26 10:00:55] - Pierce: That's true. I would never have guessed that Cordelia was a vampire the whole time either. -Paul

[2005-10-26 01:46:10] - Paul: what are you talking about?  I can't believe it was a dream the whole time!  How shocking! - pierce

[2005-10-26 00:03:15] - Vinnie: Such an anti-climatic ending... -Paul

[2005-10-25 23:50:04] - vinnie:  yes.  ~a

[2005-10-25 22:07:09] - a: can you bring the last Angel disc on Thursday? I am three episodes away from it - vinnie

[2005-10-25 20:39:05] - Turn your Dodge Stratus into a Lamborghini -sam

[2005-10-25 20:23:05] - http://fresh99.com/news-anchor-melissa-theuriau.htm -sam

[2005-10-25 20:22:00] - Melissa Theuriau. She is hot, and she is French! -sam

[2005-10-25 18:54:25] - Master Chief from Halo is gonna be on Dead or Alive 4 for XBOX360! http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/545/545798/imgs_1.html -sam

[2005-10-25 13:59:11] - a: yeah that's what i mean, the detachable monitor isn't an improvement over the regular laptop for using it in your lap 'cause there'd be no place to put it. (as opposed to retractable, adjustable, and still attached.) -amy

[2005-10-25 13:07:08] - I was incorrect.  It's my gmail account.  Feel free to friends-list me.  Open to anyone here. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-25 13:01:22] - amy:  i'm not sure.  but i don't think so.  i think when it's attached, then it's just like a regular laptop.  ~a

[2005-10-25 12:01:19] - a: i saw two of the pictures (the page was taking forever to load); it looks like the monitor comes off and has a stand that needs to stand on a flat surface? is there any way to adjust the position of the monitor while it is still attached to the rest of the machine? -amy

[2005-10-25 11:37:11] - pierce: I have netflix, somewhat.  I've sort of leached onto my father's account since he wasn't using it fully enough, and I don't have the finances to support a full account at this time. I think it's under my yahoo e-mail, I'll check. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-25 10:40:20] - amy:  why wouldn't it make sense when you don't have a desk/surface and are using it in your lap?  ~a

[2005-10-25 10:34:32] - Pierce: I use my main email address for netflix, although I'm not sure you want to see the movies I've been renting. :-P -Paul

[2005-10-25 10:34:00] - Pierce: I don't know about that, sorry. I was wondering the same thing, though. -Paul

[2005-10-25 10:08:02] - a: ha ha ha. i swear i was just telling vinnie last week that they need to invent the laptop with the detachable monitor. but my imaginary one was retractable instead of completely detachable... this one makes more sense. except for in settings where you don't have a desk/surface and really are using it in your lap. hmm. -amy

[2005-10-25 09:08:10] - wow, neato laptop with screens so big that the screen doubles as a regular (detached) desktop screen (click on the picutures at the bottom)  ~a

[2005-10-25 08:08:51] - paul: do you use your main email address for netflix?  I want to add you as a friend.  also, who else has netflix?  I know you care about what it suggests for you based on my ratings :) - pierce

[2005-10-25 07:54:36] - paul: (or anyone who may have seen commentary, interviews or whatnot associated with lord of the rings) do you know how peter jackson managed to convince the studio to give him 250 million dollars to make all thre LOTR movies?  based on his previous work I can't imagine there was reason to assume he could handle a project of that magnitude. - pierce

[2005-10-25 07:41:28] - I love the French

[2005-10-24 14:44:43] - a: It's like how being afraid of gays is still mostly considered socially acceptable (IMHO) whereas being afraid of blacks or some such isn't as accepted. -Paul

[2005-10-24 14:43:12] - a: I'm thinking it's something that could be on a sitcom that people could laugh at without feeling uncomfortable about. -Paul

[2005-10-24 14:42:15] - a: Well, I meant that it was generally accepted by society but I suppose I also find it to be acceptable in more of a joking way. -Paul

[2005-10-24 14:40:45] - paul:  by "acceptable" do you mean that you think it's acceptable?  ~a

[2005-10-24 12:52:52] - I think hating the french is something that is acceptable to do even if you have no good reasons for it. -Paul

[2005-10-24 12:37:30] - oh, I can believe that.  not because it makes sense to categorically hate everything french, but because it's just the kind of ambiguously-aimed hatred that bill o'reilly feeds on.  if he had to pinpoint specific things about real people, then he'd have to explain why he ignores examples of those specific flaws in the people he supports. - pierce

[2005-10-24 12:30:11] - pierce:  i'm guessing he didn't.  but i honestly didn't even give it a second thought when i was watching the eppisode.  i CAN'T believe that he DOES genuinely hate the french though.  he didn't even make it clear that he didn't hate french-americans!  ~a

[2005-10-24 12:06:11] - http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/24/news/fortune500/mcdonalds.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes McDonalds looks to sell quality -dave

[2005-10-24 11:41:27] - did anyone catch bill o'reilly on the daily show last week?  I genuinely can't tell if he thinks Stephen Colbert is actually French (and therefore to be boycotted because omgevilfrogz0rz). - pierce

[2005-10-24 11:25:14] - ddr_people: http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=111049 Captain Jack ;_; At least... it seems fitting he spent his last moments of life partying .) -amy

[2005-10-24 11:24:10] - a: yea OpenOffice.org's Impress can save and open .ppt files, Writer can save and open .doc files, Calc can save and open .xls files, Base  can save and open .mdb files -sam

[2005-10-24 11:19:37] - sam:  i'm not surprised that access costs so much, but i have heard that openoffice's replacement for access works really well (even opens mdb files)  ~a

[2005-10-24 11:14:40] - You can download Mozilla Thunderbird (Outlook) from here http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ -sam

[2005-10-24 11:11:56] - Just FYI:  MS Office 2003 Standard Edition has Powerpoint, Word, Excel, and Outlook, and it's $399.99. MS Office 2003 Professional Edition has only 2 additional programs, Publisher and Access, and it's $499.99. -sam

[2005-10-24 11:11:42] - Just FYI:  OpenOffice.org suite has Impress (Powerpoint), Writer (Word), Calc (Excel), Base (Access), Draw (Visio), Math (Math equation program), and it's free.  You can download Mozilla Thunderbird (Outlook) for free also.  -sam

[2005-10-24 10:52:32] - "OpenOffice.org is a multiplatform and multilingual office suite and an open-source project. Compatible with all other major office suites, the product is free to download, use, and distribute." -sam

[2005-10-24 10:52:05] - a: I'll be interested to see if the show can continue the same type of humor that I like about the comic strip. -Paul

[2005-10-24 10:51:29] - OpenOffice 2.0 is out! http://www.openoffice.org/ -sam

[2005-10-24 10:33:34] - http://arstechnica.com/guides/other/msh.ars description of MSH (new microsoft command shell) -dave

[2005-10-24 08:47:40] - paul:  from the commercial "jesus was black, ronald reagan was the devil, and the government is lying about 9/11."  ~a

[2005-10-23 22:12:10] - a: No, I didn't. Thanks for the heads up. -Paul

[2005-10-23 14:59:21] - Green Lantern the movie  might be coming out in 2006! http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808492469 -sam

[2005-10-23 12:37:35] - paul:  did you see that boondocks is going to be a show?  (ctn: nov6@11)  ~a

[2005-10-22 16:07:43] - acutally, i don't think it's an operating system itself, i think it is just a desktop environment. -sam

[2005-10-22 15:58:37] - 3D user interface operating system from Sun (Project Looking Glass) -sam

[2005-10-22 15:54:28] - Drum keyboard from Creative -sam

[2005-10-22 15:31:37] - i like how they totally gloss over the "i never had sex with cleveland's wife" joke.  :-P  ~a

[2005-10-22 15:05:43] - Family Guy: "I've Never" Drinking Game -sam

[2005-10-22 06:56:24] - wow... one disc of smallville had both an evil twin episode and an amnesia episode.  *sigh* such a soap opera, someone get me to stop watching it. - pierce

[2005-10-22 02:49:48] - He's also about 40 so it may have changed over time, and he hasn't entirely realized it - aaron

[2005-10-22 02:49:08] - a: One of my coworkers told me that 1:13 / 1:14 was "average", I have no experience on the matter - aaron

[2005-10-21 19:56:29] - xbox360 controller for PC.... and yes, it will also work with xbox360...  http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/659/659804p1.html  -sam

[2005-10-21 18:43:57] - aaron: you forgot </a>    -sam

[2005-10-21 18:40:34] - a: by the way, xbox 360 is shipping on Nov 22. -sam

[2005-10-21 18:40:02] - oops, i meant to say "it will probably be pretty expensive." -sam

[2005-10-21 18:39:37] - a: because PS3 will have blueray disk drive, i will probably be pretty expensive. -sam

[2005-10-21 18:38:03] - a: also, i believe HDDVD and blueray disks are currently in developement and i don't think there are any movies out there for those.  plues, i heard the HDDVD and the blue-ray disk players will be really expansive. -sam

[2005-10-21 17:34:47] - aaron:  and i doubt your comparison:  today:  intel 1:18, cisco 1:20, microsoft 1:22, ameritrade 1:28, netflix 1:78, redhat 1:87, amd 1:205 (!!!).  amd and intel are very competitive yet their p/e is VERY different.  ~a

[2005-10-21 17:31:50] - aaron:  google is 1:88 (which is pretty high compared to some of my stocks), but it seems like the pe is really high on service based companies.  ~a

[2005-10-21 16:47:58] - So yeah, that's evidently a PE of 1:200 which is really bad. Even in the net boom of 2000, most stock shad a PE of 1:20, 1:30. A typical value is 1:13 - aaron

[2005-10-21 16:47:14] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/biztech/10/21/google.profits.ap/index.html google shares earned $382.1 million, or $1.32 per share - aaron

[2005-10-21 16:45:29] - Vinnie: That would make it seem like it would make the stock even more overpriced. -Paul

[2005-10-21 16:03:25] - I would think all the name switching and the possible impending lawsuit would drive the price of their stock down. I confess that I don't know much about what affects stock prices though - vinnie

[2005-10-21 15:35:16] - Vinnie: What do you mean? -Paul

[2005-10-21 15:16:26] - vinnie:  i saw that.  earnings are way up though, and that's what investors care about i guess.  ~a

[2005-10-21 15:15:59] - per year?  ~a

[2005-10-21 15:15:39] - aaron:  $1.50 a share?  ~a

[2005-10-21 15:09:39] - a/paul: even with this going on? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4354954.stm - vinnie

[2005-10-21 15:03:04] - paul: Especially considering it's still only earning ~$1.50 a share - aaron

[2005-10-21 14:55:03] - a: *Sigh* And I thought it was overpriced when it was in the 200s.... -Paul

[2005-10-21 14:54:08] - yeah, usually 20 shares doesn't mean much.  ~a

[2005-10-21 14:52:10] - a: Especially considering it was worth like $300 a share last night. :-P -Paul

[2005-10-21 14:50:39] - google is up 12% from last night.  wow.  ~a

[2005-10-21 14:26:33] - a: Actually, if I recall correctly, most of the discussion over those was relatively civil compared to other discussions/arguments. -Paul

[2005-10-21 14:25:25] - a: Hehehe... yeah. </homer> -Paul

[2005-10-21 14:24:48] - paul:  carefree?  didn't you have a shouting match with like eight people about that entry series?  ~a

[2005-10-21 14:12:36] - Wow, I just re-read my old journal entry and I was certainly a lot more free-wheeling with my words back then. I miss those carefree days. :-) -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:39:38] - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,171358,00.html A little more information about the Python vs Alligator story. -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:37:53] - Aaron: It's possible, although I definitely don't think it applies to all "minorities" (quotes because females aren't technically a minority). -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:36:43] - "Park officials have removed dozens of burmese pythons from the Everglades over the past years and are training a beagle nicknamed "Python Pete" to track the exotic invaders." Poor beagle... -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:36:23] - http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200510/s1475680.htm Huge python, alligator in death match -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:33:53] - paul: I'm not being sarcastic, if companies give women incentives to join their company for the sole purpose of increase diversity, it strikes me that they may also do the same for other minorities. But i still think it's funny - aaron

[2005-10-21 13:32:26] - Aaron: I know I'm biased as can be, but I do not at all find it unlikely that a company in a male-dominated area (like computer programming) would offer a higher initial salary to a female in order to increase diversity. -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:30:42] - ...worked for a company that made it a point... -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:30:22] - Aaron: I can't tell if you're being sarcastic but one company I worked for made it a point to try to recruit females and I got the strong impression that they were willing to do special things to try to get them that they weren't likely to do for a male. -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:28:21] - paul: Ha! I like that explanation for why women (might) get paid more for the same job. Maybe if i come out at work i'll get a pay raise. - aaron

[2005-10-21 13:12:06] - a: Although I do admit that if I were MS, I would be a bit concerned about that aspect of my system (storage format) compared to the PS3. -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:11:21] - a: The first release of the Xbox 360 is not going to have an HD drive but future releases might. The PS3 is supposed to have a blu-ray drive. It's not too surprising, IMHO. The Gamecube and Dreamcast used different storage formats than the Xbox and PS2. -Paul

[2005-10-21 13:03:57] - interesting.  the xbox 360 won't have hddvd or blueray (at release).  it'll just have a regular dvd drive?  the ps3 will have a blueray drive?  seems pretty odd that the nextgen consoles are going to be so uncomparable technologically in that respect.  ~a

[2005-10-21 11:46:52] - hey does anyone here know anything about oracle? particularly listeners? -amy

[2005-10-21 10:32:17] - aaron:  i fixed your "/me" post.  php keeps changing how they deal with reglar expressions (like when you have variables and stuff AND you're using s///e).  ~a

[2005-10-21 10:28:30] - a: There is also a good explanation for why men might get paid more also, and that is because they often negotiate their salaries more than women do. -Paul

[2005-10-21 10:28:00] - a: Well, I don't know if men actually get paid less or not but if they do, I think the reason Amy gave (the company wants to be seen as being more diverse) would make sense. -Paul

[2005-10-21 10:21:48] - paul:  well what's the answer?  since there is no obvious answer, the thought is "that makes no sense that an employer would pay more to a women (per hour) for the same exact job.  maybe companies DON'T pay men less to do the same job . . . ?".  ~a

[2005-10-21 10:19:18] - aba:  silly, your password is the only one that isn't random.  anyways, i emailed it to your bamzai address.  ~a

[2005-10-21 10:12:01] - a: Ah yes, I remember now. That's not nearly as offensive as I thought it might've been. -Paul

[2005-10-21 10:11:20] - a: Right... that was my point as well. :-P -Paul

[2005-10-21 07:42:04] - a: i dont remember the p/w to my account.  -  aba

[2005-10-21 06:49:47] - paul:  "It's Misogynist Week!"  ~a

[2005-10-21 06:48:09] - paul:  i think that was amy's point.  you say stuff like "why would companies pay women less to do the same job?" and in response, miguel had a journal entry that begs the question, "why would companies pay men less to do the same job?"  ~a

[2005-10-21 06:32:06] - :-D  ~a

[2005-10-21 02:05:20] - Amy: "why would companies pay men less to do the same job?" I always wondered why companies would pay women less to do the same job (when I heard about the wage gap). -paul

[2005-10-21 02:04:12] - a: I'm not entirely sure what you mean by it being an excerpt. Do you mean that I had other journal entries that went along with it? I don't remember what the title was. It was offensive? -paul

[2005-10-20 23:09:25] - you address a cat Some of these are just funny because it's a stupid title for a spam message - aaron

[2005-10-20 23:05:27] - :( :( :( / aaron

[2005-10-20 23:05:20] - *** aaron fails at html :(

[2005-10-20 23:05:09] - aaaaaaahahahaha <a href="http://spamusement.com/index.php/comics/view/237">identify brontosaurus crockery shabby taunt - aaron

[2005-10-20 21:19:07] - sam:  i sent it to your cox address.  ~a

[2005-10-20 18:21:32] - a: can you send me the password? -sam

[2005-10-20 17:17:36] - vinnie:  so crafty!  -  aba

[2005-10-20 17:12:07] - aba: my favorite part of that costume is that they're selling it at Target. http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/602-1275410-7785443?_encoding=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B000APP1YK maybe Target didn't buy the Devo song for their ad, maybe Devo is infiltrating Target! :) - vinnie

[2005-10-20 16:06:29] - a: thanks .) -amy

[2005-10-20 16:05:13] - anybody else want a password (or did anyone forget theirs?)  ~a

[2005-10-20 16:04:31] - amy:  no, not something obvious.  i emailed it to your gmail account.  ~a

[2005-10-20 15:58:22] - a: what is the username/password for your password-protected pics? ...i get the feeling it is something really obvious right in front of me, like "password"? ^_^; -amy

[2005-10-20 15:56:29] - mig: that's interesting... but then why would companies pay men less to do the same job? i can only think of one explanation, and it doesn't make that much sense, but i guess a company looks better in terms of being PC if they hire more women, so they want to give women incentive? but... i dunno. doesn't make much sense. -amy

[2005-10-20 15:30:22] - http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2005/0112roberts.html an article on the topic of the "wage gap". - mig

[2005-10-20 15:28:41] - for example, the title was pretty inflamatory :)  ~a

[2005-10-20 15:27:50] - paul:  should i mention that that was just an excerpt?  :-P  ~a

[2005-10-20 15:04:24] - And now I really have to go for the day... -Paul

[2005-10-20 15:02:41] - Amy: http://wiki.aporter.org/index.php?title=Paul%27s_Journal_Entry_on_the_Gender_Pay_Gap This is something I wrote on my journal a long time ago. I think I still mostly stand by everything I wrote in there but I didn't have time to read it over to make sure. -Paul

[2005-10-20 15:02:04] - aba: Excellent idea. I was actually thinking the same thing but I couldn't find any copies of it online. Luckily I seem to have a copy of it on my home computer. -Paul

[2005-10-20 14:48:50] - Like, what does "male counterpart" mean? I feel it is intentionally vague. -amy

[2005-10-20 14:48:18] - Paul: OK, that's sort of what I thought it would be. e.g. when I saw this: "According to the Census Bureau, women on average earned 77 cents to each dollar paid to male counterparts in 2004." in that article... it's quite a vague statement, and doesn't draw any comparisons in salary betw men and women in the same position, etc. -amy

[2005-10-20 14:45:25] - paul: just send her the series of entries you wrote in your old journal.  :)  -  aba

[2005-10-20 14:23:25] - Amy: I would be happy to tell you more or answer any questions you might have but I'm going to be gone for the rest of today so it'll have to be some other time. Sorry. -Paul

[2005-10-20 14:22:03] - Amy: I think that the vast majority of the gender pay gap can be explained through just the differences between men and women and the different priorities in their lives. -paul

[2005-10-20 14:21:32] - Amy: I basically think that the gender pay gap is very misleading because it tries to compare apples to oranges and that if you make meaningful comparisons that men and women make essentially the same amount of money. -Paul

[2005-10-20 13:23:18] - http://spamusement.com some of these are pretty funny... comics inspired by real spam subject titles -amy

[2005-10-20 12:20:43] - http://www.zoogstercostumes.com/products/ds5708.html  ahahahahahahaha  BEST COSTUME EVER  -  aba

[2005-10-20 12:05:17] - "girls raised by single fathers have more orgasms than those raised by single mothers"?

[2005-10-20 12:02:07] - i can't seem to find it.  ~a

[2005-10-20 12:01:59] - does anybody remember the 2002ish-message-board-posted-article about the gender pay gap (and how it was more than accounted for by men who rejected pay-raises because they were too small)  ~a

[2005-10-20 11:54:42] - Paul: OOC (and I apologize if I am opening a can of worms), what are your thoughts on gender pay gap? I get the feeling you have strong feelings on the issue, but I don't know what they are? .) -amy

[2005-10-20 11:53:22] - I think the real story here is that there is a systematic discrimination in this country by the education system against males. :-) -Paul

[2005-10-20 11:49:34] - aba: Girls get more degrees and get lower paying jobs. ;-) -Paul

[2005-10-20 11:48:49] - Xpovos: Because I was trying to stay out of trouble. :-P -Paul

[2005-10-20 11:44:13] - so girls are better educated yet still paid less?  :-P  -  aba

[2005-10-20 11:30:19] - I'm surprised Paul hasn't posted this yet: http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20051020/ts_usatoday/collegegendergapwidens57arewomen -- Xpovos

[2005-10-20 11:01:50] - I think it all depends on perspective.  I never liked my grammar school, and in my opinion my high school has become more like my grammar school, which I would consider decline, but for most people, it's shinier, newer, and happier. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-20 11:01:05] - Paul: as a non-TJ-er, I agree.  I constantly hear horror stories of my grammar and high school alma maters slipping deeper into decline.  I'm also in a priveledge position with my new job to see some of that 'decline' first hand. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-20 10:38:07] - From everything I've heard, the change in administration was a bit of a decline, but the people who are graduating from TJ now would have spent all their time there under the new administration (I think) so I wonder if they are experiencing any real decline or not. -Paul

[2005-10-20 10:36:11] - aba: I don't have much information to draw upon, but I think the sentiment is a combination of always feeling nostalgic for the "good old days" and with an actual decline in the status of TJ. -Paul

[2005-10-20 10:21:07] - everybody seems to be saying the same thing.  ~a

[2005-10-20 09:15:48] - http://www.livejournal.com/community/tjpeople/506909.html  interesting discussion  -  aba

[2005-10-19 22:51:02] - Xpovos: Maybe we can discuss on Sunday? -Paul

[2005-10-19 18:33:05] - *** Xpovos tries to find the funny...

[2005-10-19 18:32:29] - Paul: E-mail me a few good days for you, and I'll see what's available.  There's a lot, and it's a long season -- Xpovos

[2005-10-19 18:01:50] - funny pic #2 http://php.chol.com/~bestiz2/zboard/data/iphoto/hsa06.jpg -sam

[2005-10-19 18:01:35] - funny pic #1 http://php.chol.com/~bestiz2/zboard/data/iphoto/hsa05.jpg -sam

[2005-10-19 17:47:27] - Xpovos: I wouldn't mind going to see a game sometime, but it depends on the day. -Paul

[2005-10-19 16:30:02] - Everyone: Is anyone interested in seeing a Capitals game this season?  I have a co-worker who bought season tickets and is offering them to me for certain dates.  It's $28 per ticket. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-19 16:21:04] - a: I didn't get that in-depth to the code, but it sounds well structured.  Of course, I'm one to talk.  No degree, and a pretty hedge coder. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-19 15:40:41] - xpovos:  yes, i use much less whitespace than 90% of the coders i've run into (i have to remember to add whitespace when typing code for certain projects).  ~a

[2005-10-19 15:24:10] - xpovos: unless you're referring to the code itself. i'll admit that msg.php isn't readable, but the underlying architecture (object oriented) is pretty well designed imo. you have ReadMsg (that displays the front page), PostMsg (that posts to the message board), PrevMsg (that looks at old messages), and Msg (base class). signatures are even abstracted into a Sign class  ~a

[2005-10-19 15:21:07] - a: hopefully it has newlines too.  I like my whitespace. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-19 15:19:29] - xpovos:  i use vim which has a different color scheme.  ~a

[2005-10-19 15:18:57] - pierce:  i have no clear memory of this (although i admit i have a vague memory of a book you leant me a long time ago which i have no memory of returning or not returning).  what did it look like?  ~a

[2005-10-19 14:06:16] - a: what happened to the fat php book I lent you?  did you return it? - pierce

[2005-10-19 13:49:45] - http://vigor.sourceforge.net/ vigor, (pronounced like "igor",) an office assistant for vi - aaron

[2005-10-19 13:48:08] - a: Thanks.  But ouch.  How can you read that? -- Xpovos

[2005-10-19 13:32:34] - amy_xpovos:  http://aporter.org/msg/source/  (username:  source  password:  source)  ~a

[2005-10-19 13:24:56] - amy: I wouldn't mind pilotless planes, as long as there was a mandatory death penalty for any air traffic controllers involved in plane crashes - aaron

[2005-10-19 13:09:15] - "By the year 2150, over 50% of schools in the USA or Western Europe will require classes in defending against robot attacks"  :-P  ~a

[2005-10-19 13:00:11] - aaron: very interesting site! i don't know how i feel about pilotless planes! -amy

[2005-10-19 12:59:32] - a: I might want to look at the code, if you'd let me.  I can figure most of it already, but you might have written some tricks I don't know about. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-19 12:56:58] - a: OK, thanks. i am not sure the functionality of our site will be similar enough to the message board that i'd need to look at it as a reference. actually i think our site will be much simpler than that, so i prob won't need to. i will keep it in mind though. thanks! ^_^ -amy

[2005-10-19 12:56:02] - xpovos: ah, danke  .) -amy

[2005-10-19 12:55:41] - amy:  i don't have any php books.  (i learned by programming the message board)  like xpovos mentioned, i used php.net for looking up function names/arguments to pass to them.  i can give you the code to the message board if you want it as a reference.  ~a

[2005-10-19 12:53:53] - http://www.longbets.org/  Wager on long-term predictions.... such as, "Music CDs compatible with current (2002) CD players will still be sold regularly in 2015." - aaron

[2005-10-19 12:50:21] - amy: http://www.php.net.  The net is God. -- Xpovos

[2005-10-19 12:48:11] - a: do you have any php books that either you would recommend or that i could borrow from you? i probably want to do arinsband.com in php, and it'd be nice to have a reference... -amy

[2005-10-19 11:31:23] - Amy: There are, of course, exceptions. -Paul

[2005-10-19 11:22:22] - Paul: come on, twister? ,) -amy

[2005-10-19 11:04:09] - aba: I think most kids games aren't too exciting for adults after multiple playings. :-) -Paul

[2005-10-19 11:00:56] - i think playing it one time through would be pretty interesting, but it would get boring pretty quickly.  :-P  -  aba

[2005-10-19 10:10:06] - aba:  ah, nevermind.  i read the rules.  not quite what i expected.  ~a

[2005-10-19 10:06:49] - why did i ask ,) -amy

[2005-10-19 10:06:44] - *** amy eyerolls

[2005-10-19 10:04:58] - amy:  The wedding sucked, but the reception was great!  -whoever_set_the_title

[2005-10-19 10:00:37] - aba: I think I prefer good old Trouble instead. :-p -Paul

[2005-10-19 09:59:21] - aba: looks fun!! .D -amy

[2005-10-19 09:58:50] - aba:  i assume when it says stuff like "x+2;" it means "x=x+2;"?  ~a

[2005-10-19 09:54:35] - http://www.c-jump.com/index.html  -  aba

[2005-10-19 09:49:22] - whoever_set_the_title: what's the punchline? i don't get it ^_^; -amy

[2005-10-19 09:22:33] - mig:  i know it's a stretch, but in cpp, none of my coworkers use "using".  they do stuff like std::cout << moo << std::endl;  ~a

[2005-10-19 09:21:05] - or maybe he just enjoyed typing java.io.File over and over and over again... - mig

[2005-10-19 09:19:19] - does anyone know if at one point in time importing things was frowned upon in java?  i'm looking at this code for this old version of an app i'm working on and 80% of the time this guy ended up using fully qualified names instead of just importing the classes he needed. - mig

[2005-10-19 08:57:01] - pierce:  no.  ~a

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