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[2005-12-08 08:24:46] - a: i don't know what it would do to the economy as a whole. Having houses being foreclosed on because of rising interest rates etc softens the housing market, which i guess has a negative impact on the economy. -dave

[2005-12-08 06:47:29] - sam:  i basically just used the mortgage company that my buyer's agent suggested (which ended up being the right choice for my unique situation (i had no traditional credit to speak of))  ~a

[2005-12-08 06:45:46] - sam:  the former.  the buyer gets a mortgage and the buyer's mortgage company pays the seller a fat check (much of which usually goes to pay off the seller's mortgage if there still is one)  ~a

[2005-12-07 23:10:06] - Sam: I think I remember Nick Sorensen being on our team when we went to college. -Paul

[2005-12-07 21:36:49] - sam: i am sure that other providers have the same issue but i have no basis for comparison since tmobile has been my familys carrier since i was in HS.  part of it also depends on the type of phone you have, and my phone is roughly 3 years old.  i am sure that reception on newer phones is much better.  -  aba

[2005-12-07 21:36:46] - anyone heard of nick sorensen?  he played DB for VT, now he plays for the jaguars.  and he went to Robinson High! -sam

[2005-12-07 21:30:05] - has anyone used http://www.lendingtree.com for borrowing money? -sam

[2005-12-07 21:19:53] - a:  when you bought the house, how did you find your lender for the mortgage?  Do you have any recommendations?  -sam

[2005-12-07 21:15:04] - a: when you sell a house/condo, do you get the full amount in one check from the buyer/buyer's bank?  Or is it payed to you periodically?  -sam

[2005-12-07 21:11:58] - aba: About t-mobile having problems in old buildings, is it only t-mobile having that problem or do you kow if other carriers have that problem too?    -sam

[2005-12-07 20:16:09] - tmobile is my cell phone provider.  ive never had a problem with their coverage over blacksburg, nova, durham and points in between.  i also activated international roaming and have used my cell in other countries.  the only issue is that it doesnt work in the metro and sometimes it has problems in old buildings.  -  aba

[2005-12-07 18:52:45] - does anyone have T-mobile?  do you know how good the coverage is? -sam

[2005-12-07 18:27:05] - has anyone played "Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict?"  it's a 3rd person shooter with cool melee weapons. http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/unrealchampionship2theliandriconflict/index.html  -sam

[2005-12-07 17:22:31] - a: Well, I think it means that a lot of people are likely going to default on their loans which will force a lot of people into renting and put more houses on the market. -Paul

[2005-12-07 17:12:04] - "prepayment penalties" means that if you don't wait a certain amount of time before paying off your loan, you pay a fee? - aaron

[2005-12-07 17:11:42] - prepayment penalties"

[2005-12-07 16:58:20] - will this cause interest rates to go up?  will interest rates going up help/hurt home prices?  ~a

[2005-12-07 16:57:30] - paul:  even though i was just replying to dave, i guess the question is for everybody.  the article doesn't really cover the impact of these stats on the economy.  ~a

[2005-12-07 16:55:01] - "Many subprime loans, for example, feature prepayment penalties that make it too costly for borrowers to refinance, even after they have mended their credit."  prepayment penalties are so wrong.  ~a

[2005-12-07 16:51:28] - i was replying to dave.  ~a

[2005-12-07 16:50:26] - a: What exactly are you talking about? The whole article or just Dave's quote? -Paul

[2005-12-07 16:40:05] - what does that mean for the economy though?  wouldn't that just mean much higher interest rates?  (the interest rates right now are pretty low relative to the last century)  ~a

[2005-12-07 16:17:44] - Dave: That's a big percentage. -Paul

[2005-12-07 15:51:40] - Paul: oh my word "20 percent of subprime loans went into foreclosure within four years, Ernst said." -dave

[2005-12-07 15:20:46] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/06/AR2005120601743.html Mortgage Stress Seen for '06 -Paul

[2005-12-07 15:04:27] - http://wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,69741,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 Sony draws ire with PSP graffiti - aaron

[2005-12-07 14:47:03] - paul: Even i think that's a little creepy - aaron

[2005-12-07 11:40:39] - Dave: Same here. -Paul

[2005-12-07 11:39:15] - paul: well i'm glad i don't have those running around my apt -dave

[2005-12-07 10:18:27] - Paul: Haha thanks, I needed that first thing in the morning. Well that's gross. Venemous? Yikes. -amy

[2005-12-07 09:52:31] - http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/2691965/detail.html?qs=;s=21;w=400 Picture of a giant centipede for Amy. :-P -paul

[2005-12-07 08:37:46] - Dave is on a roll, three hysterical articles/quotes in a row. ;-) -- Xpovos

[2005-12-07 08:05:15] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/06/AR2005120602165.html James Cameron to do Battle Angel -dave

[2005-12-06 15:47:39] - "The Yankees reportedly lost between $50-$85 million in 2005 despite drawing more than four million fans. Owner George Steinbrenner has demanded his front office fix the problem no matter how much it costs." -dave

[2005-12-06 15:46:13] - "The so-called "smart" soccer balls won't be ready for the 2006 World Cup. Each ball is embedded with a microchip that is supposed to send a signal to a device on the referee's wrist when the ball crosses the goal line. Unfortunately, experts aren't certain the technology works since nobody ever scores." -dave

[2005-12-06 14:17:17] - http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/35904.html trained wasps could replace bomb-sniffing dogs.  and no this isn't a joke story. - mig

[2005-12-06 10:03:08] - wow, trafficland now uses google maps (and it seems like they quietly increased their video quality)  ~a

[2005-12-06 09:09:41] - a: Only about the safe flight thing. -Paul

[2005-12-06 03:10:05] - paul:  maybe you were being sarcastic.  ~a

[2005-12-06 00:03:05] - Whoops, I meant "NOT going to read this" -Paul

[2005-12-06 00:02:47] - Mel: Pretty sure you're going to read this before leaving but I figure I might as well mention that it's about midnight here and it started snowing again with accumulation on the roads. Hope you have a safe flight. -Paul

[2005-12-05 19:46:31] - 40,000 Xbox 360s sold on eBay http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000680070851  -sam

[2005-12-05 17:00:23] - mig: sigh management .) -amy

[2005-12-05 16:18:00] - a:  i'm still here, but i'm going soon since i normally leave around this time anyways.  some of the programmers are still here but all the management left already. - mig

[2005-12-05 16:17:31] - It better snow some more, because so far Reston got a pretty pathetic amount of snow. :-P -Paul

[2005-12-05 16:17:02] - a: His name is Chris.  He's a helicopter mechanic in the Marine Corps.  He grew up in Texas.  -mel

[2005-12-05 16:17:01] - Amy: I'm still at work and I think everybody at my company is still at work. The roads don't seem all that bad here and it looks like it stopped snowing about an hour ago. I can see some snow plows across the street not doing anything so it can't be that bad around here. -Paul

[2005-12-05 16:10:43] - home safely (thank you paul) -- is everyone else still at work? sort of surprising to me because all but one of my coworkers had gone home at the time i left the office. -amy

[2005-12-05 16:02:40] - mel:  who's the groom?  ~a

[2005-12-05 16:02:28] - a: Nat is marrying another Marine.  It will be a really nice ceremony.  It is being held at Mount Vernon.  I am happy for her.  Obviously this has made me question my own relationships though.  :-P  -mel

[2005-12-05 16:01:29] - a: haha.  that's right, I got ahead of myself.  Thanks for the info.    -mel

[2005-12-05 16:00:33] - a: yeah, me either.  :-/ -mel

[2005-12-05 16:00:26] - mel:  nope to both questions you asked me!  ~a

[2005-12-05 16:00:13] - mel:  nope.  ~a

[2005-12-05 15:59:57] - a: yes, Nat.  can you believe it?  -mel

[2005-12-05 15:59:39] - Paul: I am flying in to Dulles at 6 AM Tue morning.  -mel

[2005-12-05 15:59:18] - a: thanks.  so its not sticking yet?  -mel

[2005-12-05 15:57:26] - Mel: Not sure where you're flying in, but where I am at (near Dulles airport) it has pretty much stopped right now, although it could easily start back up. -Paul

[2005-12-05 15:57:02] - mel:  the snow is very light right now and the ground is still warm.  ~a

[2005-12-05 15:56:27] - nat?  ~a

[2005-12-05 15:54:23] - mel:  in most of northern virginia, yes.  ~a

[2005-12-05 15:54:02] - my (younger!) sister is getting married tomorrow and I'm flying in for the wedding.  I'm wondering whether flights will be delayed.  -mel

[2005-12-05 15:53:15] - is it snowing right now??  -mel

[2005-12-05 15:36:26] - a: Probably more than an arbitrary website but the same as an official looking website. -Paul

[2005-12-05 15:35:51] - Dave: I usually use it for stuff that I can possibly find elsewhere, except it's all in one place and organized better in wikipedia. -paul

[2005-12-05 15:35:45] - http://z.about.com/d/japanese/1/0/A/4/1/sjp10_8.jpg  ~a

[2005-12-05 15:33:44] - dave: omoshiroi!  omoshiroi omoshiroi omoshiroi.  ~a

[2005-12-05 15:24:05] - paul:  do you put more/less faith in wikipedia compared to an arbitrary website found on google?  ~a

[2005-12-05 15:22:06] - paul: well the tough part is figuring out how accurate it really is. i mean, i don't use it a lot, but for the stuff that i would, it's usually because i can't find it out that easily -dave

[2005-12-05 15:21:17] - amy: go you ^_^ -dave

[2005-12-05 15:11:36] - Dave: I find that wikipedia is usually pretty accurate for the stuff that I use it for and I never put too much faith in it. -Paul

[2005-12-05 15:10:29] - Amy: Drive safely. -Paul

[2005-12-05 15:07:11] - hooray i'm going home.... where i will put in another 3 hours of work. yay. -amy

[2005-12-05 15:07:02] - a: omoshiroi -dave

[2005-12-05 15:04:35] - http://wiki.aporter.org/index.php?title=Dave&action=edit  ~a

[2005-12-05 15:03:54] - dave:  almost every page on wikipedia (and on the "wiki" link above) has an "edit" tab where you can edit the content of the page.  ~a

[2005-12-05 15:02:38] - dave: i heard 1.5" but i'm also not really checking. (this is what my coworker said)-amy

[2005-12-05 15:02:17] - Dave: There's no accumulation on the roads but the cars and grass definitely have some accumulation here. -Paul

[2005-12-05 15:00:05] - Amy: My MP3 player can be used like that, actually. -Paul

[2005-12-05 14:59:25] - a: My old one broke. -Paul

[2005-12-05 14:57:47] - a: i mean, i have no idea how reliable it is, but if like 1% of the stuff on there was bogus, i'd feel worried everytime i read something from it -dave

[2005-12-05 14:56:31] - dave:  yeah, it's hard to fit a 4.7gb movie image on a keydrive (especially since most keydrives are formatted fat32.  fat32 doesn't support filesizes that are greater than 4gb)  ~a

[2005-12-05 14:56:16] - a: no i didn't know that. I'm amazed that it seem fairly reliable even though anyone can edit it -dave

[2005-12-05 14:55:40] - paul: it doesn't look like it's sticking to anything but cars here at present, but it's supposed to get colder tonight <shrug> -dave

[2005-12-05 14:55:33] - dave:  you didn't know that you could edit wikipedia entries?  that's the whole point of wikipedia.  anybody can do anything (and the ratio of smart editors to dumb editors is large to small).  i've mad a few (very minor) changes to wikipedia.  ~a

[2005-12-05 14:55:00] - amy: really? i've heard 3-6" for here -dave

[2005-12-05 14:54:47] - amy: doesn't quite replace a CD/DVD burner though - although they're very handy for what they do -dave

[2005-12-05 14:52:37] - Paul: You should get a USB key drive thinger .) -amy

[2005-12-05 14:52:27] - paul:  no cd burner?  why not?  ~a

[2005-12-05 14:52:00] - in fact our company just sent out this email about making your own decision as to whether it's safe to stay, etc. it doesn't seem there is going to be a lot of accumulation, but the traffic is already bad, acc. to one of my coworkers who was watching the traffic and decided to leave half an hour ago. -amy

[2005-12-05 14:51:58] - a: It's snowing here, but doesn't look too impressive. Didn't even think of leaving work early (maybe because I live so close by). -Paul

[2005-12-05 14:51:21] - aba: I'm not entirely sure how the download works (if it's just an installation file or whatever). Also, I don't have a CD-Burner in my computer anymore so I couldn't burn it to a CD anyway. -Paul

[2005-12-05 14:50:53] - dave: closer than i (alexandria --> springfield), but we are all generally able to work from home. in fact i'm trying to set it up so that i can, too, so i can get out of here. -amy

[2005-12-05 14:40:43] - amy: wow, how far away do these people live? -dave

[2005-12-05 14:39:29] - http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1137691-1,00.html True confessions? -dave

[2005-12-05 14:37:27] - well i'm not scared off by such a small amount of snow, so i'm staying too.  ~a

[2005-12-05 14:33:45] - it's snowing pretty hard here and my coworkers are leaving so they don't get stuck in traffic later. and i have a deadline by COB today and i am not going anywhere ;_; -amy

[2005-12-05 14:33:31] - dave:  no she called for something else, but it was just something she mentioned. - mig

[2005-12-05 14:25:32] - mig: hehe your mom called to tell you it was snowing? -dave

[2005-12-05 14:25:10] - a: snowing here in MD -dave

[2005-12-05 14:24:59] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/12/05/coffee.liver.damage.reut/index.html drinking more than two cups of coffee or tea a day may decrease chances of liver disease (from alcohol) by half -dave

[2005-12-05 14:08:36] - a: its raining buckets here (in nc).  -  aba

[2005-12-05 14:06:19] - i did not know that until my mom called to tell me.  which is sad because there's a big window in my office. - mig

[2005-12-05 14:00:53] - is it snowing for everybody in nova?  ~a

[2005-12-05 13:36:19] - paul:  cant you just dl it and burn it to cd?  -  aba

[2005-12-05 12:57:21] - aaron: so there's a single-player portion to the game that you don't need the internet for? -dave

[2005-12-05 12:26:49] - dave: I think it might use some sort of internet key - like when you get it, you have a keyfile, and each time you connect to the internet for multiplayer, it checks that noone else has used your key.... - aaron

[2005-12-05 11:32:46] - aaron: there's no user/pw setup so that you can download it again on another computer? -dave

[2005-12-05 11:02:15] - Aaron: Yeah, it's not really a big deal since it probably won't be a game that I'm going to go back and play after a while but it would still be nice to have a copy of my own. -Paul

[2005-12-05 10:56:01] - paul: Oh, interesting - i bought a game awhile ago that was a direct download. I hadn't thought about what might happen when i need to move it to a new computer. Hmmmm. - aaron

[2005-12-05 10:51:42] - aaron: that's comforting ^_^ -dave

[2005-12-05 09:21:40] - Aaron: That looks like you just download the game to your computer. I was hoping to get a CD of it in case I ever need to reformat. -Paul

[2005-12-05 08:49:09] - dave: Slightly more difficult than posting to the message board. - aaron

[2005-12-05 08:14:13] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051204-5682.html wikipedia scrutinized for the validity of its entries. Apparently it's easy to edit entries? -dave

[2005-12-04 11:06:31] - looks like they have an "order" page, so you can order it online? - aaron

[2005-12-04 11:05:04] - paul: http://www.darwinia.co.uk/ - aaron

[2005-12-03 13:48:38] - Trump University.    http://www.trumpuniversity.com/    -sam

[2005-12-03 03:37:46] - in other news... colleges to look into "deeply flawed" congressional system. - pierce

[2005-12-02 19:49:34] - http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2245440 Congress to look into 'deeply flawed' BCS system -Paul

[2005-12-02 18:43:16] - a: yes -sam

[2005-12-02 18:01:08] - sam:  so are you coming?  ~a

[2005-12-02 17:43:08] - a: i found the email. thanks. -sam

[2005-12-02 16:46:30] - paul: not in kansas, I'll tell you that. (/sorry) - pierce

[2005-12-02 16:29:37] - Does anybody here know how I can get my hands on a copy of the computer game called "Darwinia"? -Paul

[2005-12-02 15:53:12] - Dave: You didn't know who Wil Wheaton was? =-o I'm surprised I haven't complained about him to you before. -Paul

[2005-12-02 15:39:04] - paul: nope, didn't know that. didn't even know who he was till i looked it up -dave

[2005-12-02 15:35:46] - Dave: Reading Ars Technica I see. Did you know that a lot of people there think Wil Wheaton is cool? I was devastated when I learned that. -Paul

[2005-12-02 15:24:16] - the rebuttal "It can be doneā€”the bottled water industry seems to be doing nicely despite the presence of faucets in nearly every building." -dave

[2005-12-02 15:24:03] - from an article on releasing DVDs simultaneously with theatre releases "When people say 'Re-invent your business model because of the ubiquitous availability of pirated product.' There's a huge flaw with that," said Gianopulos. "You can never compete with free." -dave

[2005-12-02 15:04:54] - a: Helps that I looked it up before posting. :-) -Paul

[2005-12-02 14:51:15] - paul:  yes, you spelled it correctly :-P  ~a

[2005-12-02 14:29:17] - Paul: yeah, i figured it wasn't worth it, hehe -dave

[2005-12-02 14:21:28] - Dave: It would probably have to be two separate (I hope I spelled that right) posts. -Paul

[2005-12-02 14:18:36] - paul: hehe yeah, i tried to post it, but couldn't get it to fit in one post, even taking out some of the unnecessary parts -dave

[2005-12-02 14:16:41] - Dave: I also like the comments about Ron Artest. :-) -Paul

[2005-12-02 14:10:06] - Dave: My favorite quote from that is probably: "If Shareef Abdur-Rahim bought Google stock, would it immediately drop under $100 a share? If he joined the cast of "Lost," would the show immediately start sucking? What are the limits of his powers? I really want to know." Although I'm pretty sure not everybody would get the joke. -Paul

[2005-12-02 14:02:48] - on lebron being less of a team player "This is right up there with Lindsay Lohan losing her boobs in my book -- it's a borderline national tragedy. I can't talk about this anymore, I'm getting upset" -dave

[2005-12-02 14:02:26] - as the title of a new Phil Jackson book about this season: "Mamba and Me: My Season Coaching a Guy Who Nicknamed Himself After A Deadly Python" -dave

[2005-12-02 14:02:04] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/051130 sports guy ranking NBA teams as contenders -dave

[2005-12-02 11:38:14] - dave:  unless stern ends up helping sirius out more than everyone expected.  well anyways, i agree.  ~a

[2005-12-02 11:19:57] - a: like you could think "i should buy sirius stock because howard stern is going to join them" but that news already boosted siruis' price right when the news came out - so you buying it now based on that isn't so great -dave

[2005-12-02 11:18:25] - a: i don't get your point at all. my point is that you can't just buy stock on how well the company is doing or will do - you also have to factor in the stock price. A lot of times stock prices will already have whatever fact you're thinking of priced into them already -dave

[2005-12-02 11:10:39] - dave:  well google is a great example.  people said google was astronomical at 100.  people said google was extremely overpriced at 200.  people said google would go down at 300.  people stopped talking when it hit 400.  ~a

[2005-12-02 11:03:24] - Dave: I guess, but nVidia wasn't happy with how things worked out between them and MS so I'm guessing they didn't sell enough consoles to make it worthwhile for nVidia. -paul

[2005-12-02 10:59:23] - Paul: sorry, yeah, ATI. And that's what I said, how many they sell makes a difference, not whether it's defined a flop. Like some people say Xbox was a flop for MS since they lost money on it, but it sold a lot of consoles -dave

[2005-12-02 10:49:33] - Dave: You mean ATI? I think the number of consoles that MS sells has a pretty strong correlation to whether or not they make money off of it. -Paul

[2005-12-02 10:45:46] - Paul: from nVidia's standpoint, they don't really care (to a certain extent)  whether MS makes money off of it or not, just how many they sell - and I think most believe that it will sell a decent bit -dave

[2005-12-02 10:45:41] - http://news.yahoo.com/photo/051201/ids_photos_wl/r3788257887.jpg  The Obelisk of Buenos Aires is covered with a giant condom to commemorate World AIDS Day. -Paul

[2005-12-02 10:44:39] - a: so it's really more about how well the company will do vs. how well other people think the company will do -dave

[2005-12-02 10:44:18] - a: You really think the 360 is going to be a flop? -Paul

[2005-12-02 10:44:04] - a: well, it's not even really all about how the company is going to do in the next year. Like Google will probably do extremely well for at least the next few years, but it might not be a good buy because their stock price is astronomical atm -dave

[2005-12-02 10:43:58] - Dave: A year is pretty far away for me. :-P -Paul

[2005-12-02 10:42:01] - does anyone know if you take a hit (or how big a hit) you take by switching mutual fund companies? (like taking it all out of one company's and putting it into another's) -dave

[2005-12-02 10:34:15] - paul:  but since people know that ati is going into the 360 AND because the 360 is going to be a flop . . . because of that, atyt is bound to fall.  ~a

[2005-12-02 10:30:20] - paul: yeah, i think the PS3 is supposed to be released within a year -dave

[2005-12-02 10:19:12] - Pierce: I don't suppose there is a bigger version of the picture, is there? Some of those things are hard to see... -Paul

[2005-12-02 10:12:19] - paul:  not too far, sometime next year i thought. - mig

[2005-12-02 10:00:55] - find all the band names represented in this picture... http://pub.virgindigital.com/content/Images/GB/W/S/M1603/COMPENTRYUK/compimage.jpg - pierce

[2005-12-02 09:59:58] - Dave: I think you're right, but the PS3 is still pretty far in the future, right? Also, nVidia's stock is a lot higher right now than ATI's was when I bought it. -Paul

[2005-12-02 09:53:12] - Paul: I believe nVidia is doing the PS3 GPU -dave

[2005-12-02 09:21:48] - a: I do prefer nVidia video cards (and have a bit of a sob story involving some stock of theirs that I owned) but I thought ATYT had the better shot of going up since they're making the video cards for the Xbox 360. -Paul

[2005-12-02 09:20:49] - a: Yeah, I very nearly sold mine when it seemingly peaked at around $44 earlier but I decided to hold onto it for various reasons and I'm sure glad I did. -Paul

[2005-12-02 07:57:17] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/01/AR2005120101944.html Archaeologist Eilat Mazar, guided by the Bible, believes she has uncovered the palace of King David on this site outside Jerusalem's Old City. Others disagree -dave

[2005-12-02 00:06:56] - and i thought you were an nvidea man.  ~a

[2005-12-02 00:06:01] - damn fcx  >:o  i sold it at 37!  ~a

[2005-12-02 00:04:53] - sam:  it was sent to patton9111@cox.net.  what's your email address?  ~a

[2005-12-01 17:40:12] - a: Those three stocks are AMD, FCX and ATYT. I've had FCX back when it was at around $36 and I got AMD and ATYT a couple of months ago when they were at $18 and $13 respectively. -Paul

[2005-12-01 17:37:48] - a: I know. I hate that word. In my defense, though, I think that I have the most incorrect spellings of it because I had the most posts by a large margin. :-) -Paul

[2005-12-01 17:33:34] - a: i didn't get the invite to your party.  -sam

[2005-12-01 17:21:55] - well i guess my post wasn't even clear.  seperate is the WRONG way of spelling it.  ~a

[2005-12-01 17:19:57] - a: i always forget which way to spell that. i'd thank you but i'm sure i'll forget again by tomorrow .p -amy

[2005-12-01 17:17:17] - "seperate" is the most misspelled word on the message board (38 times).  mostly by paul, but it seems like many people (including myself) are to blame.  ~a

[2005-12-01 17:06:52] - being up so much is pretty exceptional.  what do you have that's so great?  ~a

[2005-12-01 17:04:47] - paul:  sometimes to answer such hard questions with life, i sell part of what i have.  that way no matter what i'm not 100% upset.  ~a

[2005-12-01 17:00:09] - I have three stocks that are up 50%, 25% and 50% respectively and there are three other stocks that are down a bit from their high which I have my eye on. Should I sell my currently held stocks to buy some of those? -Paul

[2005-12-01 16:18:21] - i'm kind of jumping into the conversation here so you may have already covered this, but how do you find out if a kid has notified her parents?  ~a

[2005-12-01 15:54:14] - aaron: unless you think by notification you're kinda automatically including them in the discussion since they'll probably have something to say? -dave

[2005-12-01 15:53:30] - aaron: the decision? Oh, I thought we were just talking about notification -dave

[2005-12-01 15:47:05] - dave: You're right that an abortion is a bigger decision than condom use, I definitely think the parents should be involved in the decision. I'm just not sure if it should actually be illegal for a teenager to exclude them from the decision... - aaron

[2005-12-01 15:46:06] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/01/emily.cat.ap/index.html Emily the cat (accidentally stowed away on a container and got shipped from wisconsin to chicago, to belgium, and then finally to France) gets trip home in business class -dave

[2005-12-01 14:57:12] - aaron: I guess in other words, i don't think buying condoms is as important or impactful as getting an abortion -dave

[2005-12-01 14:55:22] - aaron: yeah, I can definitely understand that point. I just think for something like an abortion, the parent should be able to at least talk to the kid about it before they decide - the kids a minor after all. Like what if a kid wanted a sex-change, you'd think the parents should be able to talk to the kid about that before it happened -dave

[2005-12-01 14:53:56] - http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/piratesofthecaribbeandeadmanschest.html;_ylt=Ah24h0.sZZo5hpfqdz4fq2FfVXcA Pirates of the Caribbean 2 trailer. <3 -Paul

[2005-12-01 14:42:37] - this board is used for non-personal reasons? :) - vinnie

[2005-12-01 14:15:16] - Lori: I guess you're not likely to see this, but it's no problem. Mistakes happen and no harm was done. -Paul

[2005-12-01 14:10:29] - everyone:  sorry for using this board for personal reasons.  Now I get to go back to internet isolations before I get written up for this.  See you all tomorrow (I hope)!  - lori

[2005-12-01 14:09:36] - a: your phone is dead.  I forgot to medicate the dog this morning - please remember tonight.  Call when you get a chnce.  - lori

[2005-12-01 14:08:56] - Paul:  I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm soory - lori

[2005-12-01 14:00:34] - dave: Well as far as condoms go, I think if you make notification mandatory for the safer methods of birth control, you'll encourage teens to use less responsible methods... For abortion, I think a similar argument could be made for abortion - aaron

[2005-12-01 11:47:14] - Dave: I guess so. I think I remember there being some awkward mention of something but I really don't remember you bringing up this specific thing. :-P -Paul

[2005-12-01 11:45:54] - paul: apparently my strategic retreat was successful -dave

[2005-12-01 11:45:38] - paul: heh, actually you did hear about it cuz I think it came up in our conversation. When I found out you weren't invited, I strategically retreated though -dave

[2005-12-01 11:44:13] - aaron: yeah, I guess so. i dunno. Buying condoms just seems like a less, hmm, important? thing to try to get notification for. -dave

[2005-12-01 11:42:52] - paul: sorry, no idea about the xbox360 and lag issues -dave

[2005-12-01 11:15:17] - a: I actually think that's a pretty decent reason. It's something that I've probably done before as well. It's better than the reason why Gurkie didn't get invited to Harry Potter. -Paul

[2005-12-01 11:14:43] - Amy: That he didn't want me coming? :-) -Paul

[2005-12-01 11:13:26] - a: heh heh, "really bad reason" made me think it was going to be something else ,) -amy

[2005-12-01 11:06:29] - did anybody else not get the email?  ~a

[2005-12-01 11:06:24] - i just sent it to you.  ~a

[2005-12-01 11:06:19] - paul:  it wasn't sent to you (and for a really bad reason).  to send lori the email addresses, i just forwarded her an email from you that started with "Forwarded message from Paul Essen <paul_essen@yahoo.com>"  she must have just looked at the addressees and didn't send it to you because you weren't sending the email (about the harry potter movie) to yourself.  ~a

[2005-12-01 10:56:18] - a: I guess I lost the email because I think this is the first I've heard of it. -Paul

[2005-12-01 10:51:41] - reminder to everybody:  party tomorrow night at 8.  if you lost the email, let me know.  ~a

[2005-12-01 09:18:52] - sam:  i do agree, there really isn't much of a point of declaring a national champ when 98% of the determination is completely subjective. - mig

[2005-12-01 09:08:36] - Sam: That's another reason why I think using NFL style rules for college football just wouldn't work. Too many teams. -Paul

[2005-11-30 23:41:58] - yeah ... 119 is a bit much. - mig

[2005-11-30 17:58:32] - paul: i think NCAA needs to shrink the division 1-A size... here are all the schools in division 1-A http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/standings -sam

[2005-11-30 17:55:15] - there is no national champ for high school football...  -sam

[2005-11-30 17:54:35] - Sam: I don't think people would be happy with that. They want one single national champ that they can say is better than all the rest. They want to see the best teams from each conference playing against each other, not just playing teams in their own conference. -Paul

[2005-11-30 17:51:48] - paul: maybe college football shouldn't even have national champ... just conference champ might be ok... -sam

[2005-11-30 17:50:56] - Sam: What would you use as a tie breaker, then? Because I can assure you that most years you will have a bunch of ties for the best record. -Paul

[2005-11-30 17:50:17] - paul: college football is different.... but i don't think BCS rankings is the best way to determine the champ though -sam

[2005-11-30 17:49:02] - Sam: You could use the BCS as a tie breaker, but I think people would be very disappointed if at the end of the year we just all said that USC was the champion and didn't have them face off against Texas or some other highly ranked team. -paul

[2005-11-30 17:48:18] - Sam: Right, but I don't think those kind of systems would work in college football because there are too many teams that play wildly varying schedules and there would just be too many teams with the same record at the end of the year. -Paul

[2005-11-30 17:47:28] - paul: NL and AL didn't have divisions...  the best record in each leagues were the NL and AL champs -sam

[2005-11-30 17:46:38] - paul: actually in Major League Baseball, they used to have the teams with the best record in NL and AL play in the world series. -sam

[2005-11-30 17:45:24] - paul:  i'm pretty sure they have some sort of a tie breaker.  i don't know what it is though. -sam

[2005-11-30 17:44:36] - paul: many soccer leagues in europe don't have playoffs  -sam

[2005-11-30 17:43:53] - Sam: What happens when teams tie for the best record then? -Paul

[2005-11-30 17:43:32] - dave: Shouldn't parents know when their children are buying condoms? That's a pretty big decision too - aaron

[2005-11-30 17:43:24] - paul: what is the point of having a playoff system?  shouldn't the league have only one division and the team with the best record at the end of the season should be the champ?  like in european soccer leagues? -sam

[2005-11-30 17:40:50] - Sam: They should, but I believe recent Big XII championship game history is that the big underdog usually knocks off the heavily favored team. I know Colorado has done it before and I think it's also happened to Texas before. -paul

[2005-11-30 17:38:10] - paul: but texas is the best team in the Big XII, they should win the championship game... :-p -sam

[2005-11-30 17:33:08] - Sam: For example, if Colorado beats Texas they will be the Big XII champion even though I think it's obvious to most people that Texas is the best team in the division and deserve to be the champion. -Paul

[2005-11-30 17:32:06] - Sam: I suppose so. One thing that's always annoyed me, though, is when a mediocre team with a bunch of losses beats a real powerhouse team (that was previously undefeated) and then the mediocre team is considered the division champion just because they had one good game. -Paul

[2005-11-30 17:27:30] - paul: division winners should get chance to play for the league championship though... -sam

[2005-11-30 17:26:27] - paul: in a lot of sports, division winners don't necessarily win the league championship. -sam

[2005-11-30 16:22:03] - a: I usually say "no problem" also, but "you're welcome" seemed to make it clearer for this example. -Paul

[2005-11-30 16:20:15] - and it's usually s/your welcome/no problem/  ~a

[2005-11-30 16:15:02] - aamy: Thanks for the input. I've decided not to send a "you're welcome" email. :-P -Paul

[2005-11-30 16:14:32] - amy: I figured it's probably too late to do it now unless it was decided that it was rude of me not to respond (then I would rather be late than rude). -Paul

[2005-11-30 16:05:58] - paul:  i never do (any sort of "thanks" or "thanks bunches") unless i have something else to say besides just your welcome.  ~a

[2005-11-30 16:05:28] - Paul: If you are fretting over it, why don't you just write a  "you're welcome" right now? Or is it too late? I still don't think it's rude. I usu send "thank you" emails but not "you're welcome" ones. I also don't receive "you're welcome" messages that often, but receive "thank yous." -amy

[2005-11-30 15:47:40] - damy: What if they said "thanks so much"? -Paul

[2005-11-30 15:46:47] - Dave: I don't know if you've run across this, but do you know if there has been any definitive answer as to whether or not the Xbox 360 has lag issues with DLP TVs? -Paul

[2005-11-30 15:45:32] - paul: swipe the father's xbox 360 and sell it on ebay -dave

[2005-11-30 15:44:43] - paul: i don't think so either -dave

[2005-11-30 15:43:56] - http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/xbox360.ars xbox 360 review -dave

[2005-11-30 15:37:00] - Paul: I don't think so (re: is it rude?) -amy

[2005-11-30 15:09:21] - I do wonder, however, how a teenager manages to afford an abortion if they don't tell their parents about it. -Paul

[2005-11-30 15:08:59] - Aaron: In other words, the distinctions I made before are probably moot. :-P -Paul

[2005-11-30 15:08:30] - Aaron: Ok, I read part of the article and the issue is a little different from what I thought it was. It doesn't really have anything to do with schools and more to do with just whether or not a doctor can perform the procedure without having the parents be notified. -Paul

[2005-11-30 15:04:24] - If I send an email to somebody asking if something works now and they respond with something along the lines of: "Yes, thanks". Is it rude if I don't send an email back saying "you're welcome"? -Paul

[2005-11-30 15:02:13] - aaron: like what if two minors got caught having sex in a locker room? Or caught shoplifting? They would probably not want their parents notified for those reason, but most people would think they should be notified -dave

[2005-11-30 15:00:26] - aaron: most things we've been mentioning that  parents get notified of fall in that category -dave

[2005-11-30 14:59:34] - aaron: but generally, with other things, it doesn't matter that the minor doesn't want them to know because they disapprove or is ashamed of it. -dave

[2005-11-30 14:48:14] - paul: That depends on who hired the therapist I would imagine - aaron

[2005-11-30 14:47:23] - paul: Well I presume the scenario is, you have a teenager who wants an abortion but doesn't want her parents to know, either because they disapprove or because she is ashamed of it - aaron

[2005-11-30 11:33:03] - Dave: If the kid is a minor, then I can't think of much unless the parents are under suspicion for some reason. It even seems like therapy is something that is probably shared with the parents (telling them what exactly is wrong with their child). -Paul

[2005-11-30 11:32:37] - paul: like you'd think the parents would be notified if any other major surgery / medical thing was done to their kid -dave

[2005-11-30 11:25:30] - paul: I thought maybe things like the kid's sex life, but it seems like the parent should even know about things like that if it's majorly impacting their kid -dave

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