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[2006-09-04 11:33:00] - http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2572539 'Crocodile Hunter' Irwin killed by stingray while diving -Paul
[2006-09-03 02:02:18] - title: i hate to ruin your fun, but lori has reminded me that angels are all male. ~a
[2006-09-02 15:28:46] - aaron: i don't think that was anon. i think it was pierce. ~a
[2006-09-02 08:28:17] - anon: that video was genius - aaron
[2006-09-01 14:37:11] - http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/334783 ragdoll avalanche II - aaron
[2006-09-01 14:25:25] - mig: I could ask you the same thing: http://aporter.org/msg/stats.txt -board
[2006-09-01 14:19:27] - mig: I'm here.
-Paul[2006-09-01 14:09:39] - board: so ... where'd everyone go? - mig
[2006-09-01 12:33:31] - http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=2382158 marcus vick may make final dolphins roster. - mig
[2006-09-01 11:30:18] - dave: wow, that's EXPENSIVE. i know people who won't buy new movies for $15, and that's even the regular non-drm comes-with-hard-copy version. ~a
[2006-09-01 11:28:21] - aaron: yeah. full-protection (nobody can edit) exists too. like on the main-page. . . . since the invent of simiprotection, it hasn't been used nearly as much. ~a
[2006-09-01 09:08:33] - http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/08/31/2224230.shtml more info about wikipedia's proposed changes, on admins marking a certain revision as "not vandalized" - aaron
[2006-09-01 07:58:12] - http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4027 iTunes to start selling movies in Sept. 9.99 for older movies, 14.99 for newer ones. Likely to be able to burn to DVD -dave
[2006-09-01 06:35:15] - a: right, meaning anonymous users can't edit it. things can get more protected than that? - aaron
[2006-09-01 01:18:30] - ignore the search query... it has nothing to do with warcraft. - pierce
[2006-09-01 01:18:05] - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6805063692754011230&q=draenei+mount&hl=en
[2006-08-31 21:05:56] - aaron: wikipedia protection on homosexuality started in july. george w. bush unprotection was last tried in june. in both cases, it was actually semiprotection, not full protection. ~a
[2006-08-31 16:24:31] - aaron: yea - vinnie
[2006-08-31 16:03:53] - y. ~a
[2006-08-31 16:02:59] - ddr_people: sfm this week right? - aaron
[2006-08-31 13:55:09] - sam: i don't know. but it's all subjective anyways. the easiest way to find that out for yourself is to try them. i myself haven't used either one. ~a
[2006-08-31 13:31:20] - a: right, i'm sure there's much more to a distro than the desktop environment. i just wanted to know advantages and disavantages of the desktop environments out there. Like what's good/bad about KDE, what's good/bad about Gnome, etc. Or are they virtually the same? -sam
[2006-08-31 13:20:59] - aaron: right. i understand that they're only going to do it on certain pages. still it'll never fly. who even decides which version to publish? admins? administrators who are also editors can be just as ignorant (and immature) as any other editor. admins are only as mature as the polices that they're required to follow. ~a
[2006-08-31 13:05:13] - a: it works great for things like, people vandalizing the George W. Bush article, but it doesn't work so great for edits saying that The New Tetris allows you to make "multi blocks" - aaron
[2006-08-31 13:03:33] - a: it's so much easier (and more convincing) just to cite wikipedia's sources anyways. and it'll be tough getting editors to approve edits on topics throughout the entirety of wikipedia - aaron
[2006-08-31 12:48:38] - aaron: (regarding the prior restraint part) imo it'll never fly. ~a
[2006-08-31 12:45:02] - "we have no way of knowing how many school essays mention his entirely fabricated involvement in the assassination of Robert and John Kennedy." i know how many school essays shouldn't be using wikipedia as a primary or secondary source. ~a
[2006-08-31 12:40:37] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5286458.stm Wikipedia is considering introducing a form of prior restraint on edits - aaron
[2006-08-31 11:36:19] - heh. "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." -gwb 1999 ~a
[2006-08-31 08:23:55] - sam: i don't think i agree. there's much more to a distro than the desktop environment. when i have problems with linux, it's usually not the desktop environment that's being a problem. ~a
[2006-08-31 01:45:30] - paul: i should go to japan! -sam
[2006-08-31 01:44:49] - a: i'm guessing they let you install either of them on any linux systems. but i wonder if the installation is as simple as just clicking through the "next" buttons. it might be just better to get the distro with the desktop environment you want. -sam
[2006-08-31 01:31:19] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/30/AR2006083002985.html Japanese Women Catch the 'Korean Wave' -Paul
[2006-08-30 20:03:39] - oh redhat will let you use kde though, right? and won't suse let you use gnome? well if you're asking which is better gnome or kde my answer is i don't know. ~a
[2006-08-30 19:43:44] - a: well, u know how some distros come with certain desktop environments... for example, Suse comes with KDE and RedHat comes with Gnome for desktop environment. I was wondering what you would recommend considering the desktop environments. -sam
[2006-08-30 19:12:29] - sam: you mean what distribution? i've heard good things about ubuntu. also, fedora (what used to be called redhat) is pretty normal. i run debian, but i don't suggest it for people who haven't used linux before. ~a
[2006-08-30 15:04:41] - *** a photographs dave in his back yard.
[2006-08-30 15:04:14] - i don't think they show enough skin in the magazines. and the papparazi haven't gone far enough. ~a
[2006-08-30 13:50:11] - aaron: like I think aniston was photographed topless in her own backyard, which was pretty secluded. Think the photog may have been reprimanded or something, but the public didn't really care all that much -dave
[2006-08-30 13:42:33] - aaron: well, sort of a combination I suppose, but if I had to pick, it would be the "that's too much skin to show on a magazine" I think the woman was only shown in a bra -dave
[2006-08-30 13:37:52] - dave: which sentiment don't you think exists in these United States, the "that's too much skin to show on a magazine" sentiment, or the "the papparazi have gone too far this time" sentiment? they're kind of separate issues - aaron
[2006-08-30 13:35:47] - dave: what about superbowl 38? that angered a lot of people - aaron
[2006-08-30 13:25:38] - http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5917928?FSO1&ATT=HMA US beats Germany to make it to last 4 -dave
[2006-08-30 13:17:07] - aaron: or how about when female celebs accidentally have problems with their dresses and show more than they wanted? no one is outraged about pics of that being published -dave
[2006-08-30 13:15:13] - aaron: really? I highly doubt it. I know they weren't exactly the same situations, but no one thought it was really bad catching topless pics of natalie portman, or the selling of paris hiltons sex tape. Granted they were more likely to be seen since portman was on the beach and hilton was taped by her bf at the time, but still... -dave
[2006-08-30 13:06:05] - hey i am planning on going to karaoke tonight, i know it's last minute but if you are interested, show up at our place at 8.45 and we'll head over around 9... let me know beforehand though 'cause we'll probably go once everybody who expressed interest has shown up. -amy
[2006-08-30 09:40:58] - motherfucking liquids on my motherfucking plane - samuel
[2006-08-30 09:39:45] - dave: what do you think the response would be in the US? i think it would be similar - aaron
[2006-08-30 09:38:01] - http://www.wsoctv.com/news/9741513/detail.html TSA saves the world ... from 66 year old women. - mig
[2006-08-30 07:36:10] - the difference in response from that to what it would be in the US is somewhat amusing -dave
[2006-08-30 07:35:46] - http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=231983>1=7701 Jackie Chan and other celebrities (presumably asian) protest paparazzi pic of asian star in her dressing room -dave
[2006-08-29 21:51:05] - a: what desktop environment do you recommend for linux? -sam
[2006-08-29 19:22:17] - sam: i've only looked on dell. hp and gateway may or may not do it too. ~a
[2006-08-29 19:21:48] - sam: this link to dell will let you buy a computer with open dos. then you can install osx (assuming you know how on a non-apple x86), open bsd, gnu hurd, minix, debian, red hat, knoppix, slackware, javaos, solaris, plan 9, linspire, or whatever you want. ~a
[2006-08-29 17:35:28] - i wonder how much this would be with Linux OS instead of winXP http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DB110A&s=dhs -sam
[2006-08-29 17:32:19] - do Dell, HP/Compaq, or Gateway sell Linux based computers? -sam
[2006-08-29 17:29:35] - a: mac os X is pretty neat. my buddy has the 20-inch iMac and i've used it whenever i'm at his place... -sam
[2006-08-29 17:20:30] - a: i've tried the beta version at work. a lot of "new" features that it claims to have are already on mac os X -sam
[2006-08-29 17:17:55] - a: zero dollars! -sam
[2006-08-29 15:16:22] - xpovos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems ~a
[2006-08-29 14:58:14] - a: I hear Linux is popular. -- Xpovos
[2006-08-29 14:45:20] - xpovos: so migrate from 2000 and XP (and ME, NT, 98, 95, 3.11) to something else. ~a
[2006-08-29 14:42:58] - a: I take your point, but I mean more forward-looking. Soon enough 2000 and XP will join ME and 98 and (horror) 3.11 in the "no longer supported" category of software, and stagnate. -- Xpovos
[2006-08-29 14:35:31] - xpovos: be more specific. what functionality that i don't have now, will i be lacking? ~a
[2006-08-29 14:23:05] - a: Functionality! -- Xpovos
[2006-08-29 14:07:45] - sam: yes i'm sure. I always have to go and pick it up from their warehouse which is a huge pain for me. There's a box on their infonotice that they can check which means you can sign the infonotice and have them leave the package. It's never checked for mine for some reason -dave
[2006-08-29 14:02:40] - sam: how much will it cost to not buy vista? ~a
[2006-08-29 13:13:39] - dave, r u sure about UPS not leaving package at the door? even if you leave a note on your door? -sam
[2006-08-29 13:08:33] - Depending on which package or upgrade you decide to get, Vista will cost you at least a cool $159 and up to $399 for the full "Ultimate DVD-ROM." http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/29/windows-vista-now-available-for-pre-order-on-amazon/ -sam
[2006-08-29 11:03:14] - sam: fedex is usually more expensive tho -dave
[2006-08-29 11:02:55] - sam: I like fedex, because they will leave stuff at my apt without making me sign for it. somehow everything UPS ships to me can't be left, even if I sign something saying i want it to be -dave
[2006-08-29 10:41:29] - which service do you guys like better? FedEx or UPS? -sam
[2006-08-29 09:54:09] - xpovos: ahh, i guess i didn't use it long enough to see that functionality -dave
[2006-08-29 09:49:44] - dave: Scottrade does give that data, and I peruse it frequently. Also volume, though I'm not positive of the detail on the 'last trade' -- Xpovos
[2006-08-29 09:26:29] - a: it also shows you the volume for the day and the last trade -dave
[2006-08-29 09:25:43] - a: i don't think scottrade shows it, but IB gives you real time market data where you see the bid/ask prices along with how many shares are being bid/asked for that price -dave
[2006-08-29 09:24:50] - a: i set my bid or ask prices manually. most brokers allow you to set them manually, or to just get the "market" price which is basically getting the worst price. Generally, whatever the market price is, you can probably get 5-6 cents better than it for an average stock, just because of the swings -dave
[2006-08-28 15:20:29] - how are the bid/ask ammounts calculated? i.e. if i want to buy 10 shares, i don't set my bid price manually, right? ~a
[2006-08-28 14:56:38] - a: bid/ask difference I mean -dave
[2006-08-28 14:56:31] - a: not always, especially if the bid/ask for something is large. -dave
[2006-08-28 14:34:43] - dave: since each of the exchanges are connected by electronics, aren't the prices very similar across the market? ~a
[2006-08-28 14:32:53] - yes, nobody else. ~a
[2006-08-28 13:07:21] - a: you mean nobody else? -dave
[2006-08-28 13:06:50] - a: but in all probability it's just a way to make money. If you look at it one way, it could be a way of charging you less for smaller position moves -dave
[2006-08-28 13:06:02] - a: well, actually, IB goes across several exchanges to get you the best price possible. So if you put in to sell 1k shares, it might actually sell them across 3 or 4 exchanges. That might be less of a hassle with fewer shares -dave
[2006-08-28 13:04:56] - dave: i nominate sam. ~a
[2006-08-28 13:04:45] - dave: nobody here does any option contracts. options are crazy. ~a
[2006-08-28 13:04:45] - a: I nominate you -dave
[2006-08-28 13:04:20] - xpovos: on top of that scottrade charges like 10.75 base + 1.25 per contract, making a 10 contract sell 23.25 or thereabouts. IB would charge you 7.5 for those 10 contracts -dave
[2006-08-28 13:03:55] - i think one of us should become a broker so we could get free trades. ~a
[2006-08-28 13:03:36] - xpovos: scottrade only allows covered call selling, so you can't sell naked puts or calls. -dave
[2006-08-28 13:03:16] - a: yeah, i still use IB. -dave
[2006-08-28 13:01:42] - xpovos: dave used to use http://www.interactivebrokers.com/ . . . i don't know if he still does. ~a
[2006-08-28 12:57:33] - dave: i wonder why it's per-share. it's not like it's any harder (as far as i know) to buy 1k shares vs. 1 share. ~a
[2006-08-28 11:17:47] - dave: Who's your broker? I'm sticking with Scottrade for now because I trade low volume, but I can definitely look forward to better options some day. -- Xpovos
[2006-08-28 10:51:18] - sam: preseason, but yeah -dave
[2006-08-28 10:46:52] - redskins lost 41 to 0 to the patriots? -sam
[2006-08-28 10:45:13] - a: it's half a cent per share with $1 min -dave
[2006-08-28 10:44:40] - a: my broker also charges per share, not flat fee. Although you'd have to trade 1.4k shares to hit $7 -dave
[2006-08-28 10:44:26] - dave: i usually don't have a cash balance to speak of. ~a
[2006-08-28 10:42:50] - a: although you get a much higher percentage interest on cash balances too -dave
[2006-08-28 10:42:32] - a: of course my broker isn't necessarily better unless you trade every month -dave
[2006-08-28 10:41:51] - a: yeah, the fees from scottrade ate up my profits quite quickly. Why i changed brokers -dave
[2006-08-27 22:19:03] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14546994/?GT1=8404 Study: Teacher’s gender affects learning. -Paul
[2006-08-27 14:39:07] - a: you
[2006-08-27 14:38:59] - a: fuck
[2006-08-27 14:38:51] - a: you suck
[2006-08-27 14:33:59] - it works even more because the eager adjective fits in better with the rest of the rhyme. ~a
[2006-08-27 14:33:02] - "my very eager mother just served us nipples" ~a
[2006-08-27 14:32:26] - the "my very eager mother" part still works. ~a
[2006-08-26 18:47:19] - a: but now the "my very eager mother" rhyme really doesn't work... - lori
[2006-08-26 12:00:51] - paul: everything can use environment variables. - mig
[2006-08-25 17:03:15] - a: That's why I try to trade in amounts around $2k
-Paul[2006-08-25 16:57:48] - which includes our moon. ~a
[2006-08-25 16:57:40] - lori: there are seven moons bigger (in size and mass) than pluto. ~a
[2006-08-25 16:51:24] - lori: do you miss it? ~a
[2006-08-25 16:48:33] - on average, it takes 4 months on a $.5k stock market investment, to cover the $14 in fees ($14 = the buy+sell fees for scottrade). it takes 2 months for $1k. it takes 1 month for $1.8k. ~a
[2006-08-25 16:41:29] - pluto is no longer a planet
- lori[2006-08-25 16:38:09] - mig: I'm not so sure environment variables would work here, since it's not really a program I'm making.
-Paul[2006-08-25 16:28:27] - paul: using environment variables might lessen the pain. - mig
[2006-08-25 16:21:56] - Ugh, this makes me so sad, but I think I'm going to have to use full pathnames for everything I'm doing, which means everything is going to go to hell if a folder is renamed or (heaven-forbid) the whole thing is moved. -Paul
[2006-08-25 16:13:56] - a: What is Ubuntu? -Paul
[2006-08-25 16:12:00] - [ENTER] ~a
[2006-08-25 16:11:43] - paul: or alternatively, download this, then burn it to a cd and reboot your machine.
~a[2006-08-25 16:05:21] - a: ? -Paul
[2006-08-25 16:03:06] - paul: ssh aporter.org [ENTER] ~a
[2006-08-25 15:59:17] - But it seems like it just decided to stop working for some inexplicable reason. -Paul
[2006-08-25 15:58:59] - a: Actually, I've figured out it seems to be a different problem. For whatever reason "runas" stopped working when I changed directories and I thought it was because I wasn't using full pathnames. -Paul
[2006-08-25 15:54:51] - also, do you have cygwin?
~a[2006-08-25 15:53:53] - what the error with: temp\foobar.exe? is it complaining that it can't startup foobar.exe? it might be a dll depends issue (which always gives an unitelligable error) ~a
[2006-08-25 15:46:37] - a: Gah, that works for me too. So how come what I really want to do isn't working??? -Paul
[2006-08-25 15:41:33] - is that what you mean? ~a
[2006-08-25 15:40:54] - paul: it works for me. mkdir moo [ENTER] echo echo moo >moo\foobar.bat [ENTER] moo\foobar.bat [ENTER]. ~a
[2006-08-25 15:33:11] - For instance, if I want to run fubar.exe which is in the temp directory of the directory I'm currently in... -Paul
[2006-08-25 15:32:33] - Am I being retarded, or is it not possible to run a program in a sub-directory from the DOS prompt without specifying the entire path? -Paul
[2006-08-25 13:52:05] - here is the original 1972 version ~a
[2006-08-25 13:50:36] - in pong the ball gets you damage from falling (in your own goal) ~a
[2006-08-25 13:16:26] - in defender (1980) the humans die if they fall too far. but i don't know if that really counts since you're not controlling them directly - aaron
[2006-08-25 13:14:06] - i eventually came up with Donkey Kong Jr (1982) but i think there are probably some earlier games - aaron
[2006-08-25 12:36:17] - since damage from falling is usually minimal in games anyways, i really can't remember. ~a
[2006-08-25 12:28:40] - the earliest i thought of was Dark Forces (1995). - mig
[2006-08-25 12:14:20] - all: what's the oldest video game you can think of where you die/take damage from falling? we were trying to think of this during lunch - aaron
[2006-08-25 11:49:39] - http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1333660,00.html?cnn=yes restrictions on iranian women -dave
[2006-08-25 11:15:15] - http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/25/olmert.reut/index.html 63% of israelis want olmert to step down because hezbollah leaders are still in place and the two israelis are still captured -dave
[2006-08-25 11:08:29] - paul: least it's something to show for the whole artest / peja thing -dave
[2006-08-25 11:02:06] - a: honk honk - aaron
[2006-08-25 10:33:33] - Dave: I haven't liked a lot of the Pacers' moves this offseason. I don't think acquiring Al Harrington is a bad idea, but I'm not sure he's going to be a hugely beneficial addition either. -Paul
[2006-08-25 10:32:14] - aaron: never mind, i thought you were referencing the end of chappelle's show when you said "mmmmm thank you!" (i was immagining it as said by a llama or alpaca or whatever) ~a
[2006-08-25 10:27:15] - a: rich spiritually? - aaron
[2006-08-25 09:49:05] - Apple recalls 1.8 million laptop batteries http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/24/technology/apple_recall/index.htm -sam
[2006-08-25 09:46:48] - Toyota is recalling 368,000 SUVs and Nissan is recalling 201,000 of its cars. http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/13/autos/toyota_nissan_recall/index.htm -sam
[2006-08-25 09:44:17] - Toyota Motor Corp., Japan's biggest automaker, is considering delaying the introduction of some new models by as much as half a year amid a series of recalls and quality problems, The Wall Street Journal said Friday, citing people familiar with the matter. http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/25/news/international/bc.autos.japan.toyota.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes -sam
[2006-08-25 08:13:24] - aaron: i'm rich biatch. ~a
[2006-08-25 07:36:42] - "That's precisely what's happening now in good job markets such as San Diego and Northern Virginia. In this boom, prices soared to such extraordinary levels that builders kept churning out new homes, and owners of existing houses threw a record number of units on the market to cash out." -dave
[2006-08-25 07:36:15] - "But the argument that prices can't fall in a good job market doesn't make economic sense: To be sure, a strong employment picture helps demand. But if far more houses are pouring onto the market than can be absorbed by households lured by the new jobs, and if the sellers are pressured to sell, prices will fall." -dave
[2006-08-25 07:34:58] - that from http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/24/real_estate/pluggedin_tully.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes -dave
[2006-08-25 07:34:39] - "Prices actually fell where housing is most vulnerable, in the bubble markets in the West and Northeast. In the Northeast, they dropped 2.1 percent from July of 2005, at the same time prices nationwide rose around 3 percent, meaning that houses lost over 5 percent of their value adjusted for inflation." -dave
[2006-08-25 07:30:36] - apparently this is because of mandates that Blu-Ray and HD-DVD people have laid down -dave
[2006-08-25 07:29:08] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060824-7590.html Blu-Ray and HD-DVD HD playback only available with 64-bit versions of windows -dave
[2006-08-25 07:28:17] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060824-7589.html Sony to show actual gameplay from 27 titles Sept. 22/24 -dave
[2006-08-25 07:26:00] - Paul: happy about the pacers/harrington move? -dave
[2006-08-24 16:33:05] - a: mmmmm thank you! - aaron
[2006-08-24 16:01:19] - i wore my cape cod tshirt yesterday in honor of them. plus i didn't invite them to ultimate, which they'd be pissed off at me about if they weren't in cape cod. ~a
[2006-08-24 16:00:34] - aren't vinnie/amy in cape cod? ~a
[2006-08-24 15:59:49] - vinnie: you're still going right? - aaron
[2006-08-24 15:36:02] - aaron: hmmm. no. not this week, sorry. i have to go home (since lori's going out she can't care for her dog). i guess if you want to go late (like 6:45 or 7:00) then i'd do it. ~a
[2006-08-24 15:18:44] - a: speaking of which! you're coming to super fun mall for ddr today right! - aaron
[2006-08-24 13:46:16] - paul: feel the burn! -dave
[2006-08-24 13:20:05] - a: My legs are a little sore too, but not as much as I was hoping. -Paul
[2006-08-24 13:11:40] - adave: That's a scarily good idea. Assuming you can make it small enough. Technology to the rescue. -- Xpovos
[2006-08-24 12:46:42] - mig/paul: my legs (all three major muscles on both legs) and back are sore. ~a
[2006-08-24 12:36:46] - s/an ipod harddrive/a harddrive on the ipod/ ~a
[2006-08-24 12:36:23] - dave: and since there is an ipod harddrive you could have dvr-like rewind&record capabilities. ~a
[2006-08-24 12:27:26] - obviously the solution is for apple to add a satellite radio receiver to the ipod -dave
[2006-08-24 10:38:02] - a: OK. I missed it anyway, then. I couldn't do much last night either. -- Xpovos
[2006-08-24 09:32:03] - next one is scheduled for tuesday the 22nd. ~a
[2006-08-24 09:31:42] - xpovos: today == wednesday not thursday. ~a
[2006-08-24 08:38:03] - a: No, I didn't. Can't make it anyway, I'll be at the VAST concert in Falls Church. -- Xpovos
[2006-08-23 22:59:50] - http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2968565.html New `Survivor' to Divide Tribes by Race. -Paul
[2006-08-23 17:39:31] - xpovos: you know ultimate is today, right? ~a
[2006-08-23 16:35:46] - Sam: Makes it easier to sneak up on people.
-Paul[2006-08-23 16:25:03] - VT is not even in top 20? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/specials/preview/2006/scout.report/ -sam
[2006-08-23 16:22:45] - a: I didn't say being bought was bad (in fact, I said I thought it was good). I was saying that I didn't think it would be good to own Sirius stock if Sirius is going to be doing the buying. -Paul
[2006-08-23 16:17:09] - i must have been wrong: serius is planning on adding geostationary satellites to their network so maybe you can have some of both. ~a
[2006-08-23 16:09:40] - paul: being bought is often very good for a company (and the stockholders). i'm not sure your assesment that it's only good to buy companies is correct. ~a
[2006-08-23 16:07:24] - haha. that's funny. both companies have problems with the solar pannels on their sattelites. (the problem on the xm sattelites are more severe) ~a
[2006-08-23 16:06:08] - Xpovos: True, but are enough people going to be interested in that kind of live material to make satellite radio a big hit? -Paul
[2006-08-23 16:02:40] - so they can't just merge the technologies. however, the satelites do have to be replaced, so it's possible they'll do a phase-in-period while they switch to whichever system is deemed "better". ~a
[2006-08-23 16:01:03] - xpovos: sirius is elliptical geosynchronous orbit over north america (each satelite is above north america only part of the time, but the odds of it being at a higher angle is higher). ~a
[2006-08-23 16:00:43] - xpovos: xm is geostationary orbit over (what i believe is) south america. ~a
[2006-08-23 15:50:48] - Paul: Reasonable, but I think that as a medium it survives more on content and accessability. iPod has a long way to go before it's as insta-update and feature heavy as radio. You might be able to download the podcast of a basketball game mere hours after it's over, but that's still three hours too late. iPod is inherently 'not-live'. -- Xpovos
[2006-08-23 15:49:42] - Xpovos: Secondly, they all seem to indicate that Sirius would be the one buying XM and I'm not so sure that would be so good for Sirius stock (although it would probably be good for XM stock). -Paul
[2006-08-23 15:48:52] - Xpovos: I've heard about them, and they depress me for a couple of reasons. Firstly, they make good points as to why satellite radio might have a hard time existing on it's own even as a monopoly because of competition from iPod and other things. -Paul
[2006-08-23 15:38:41] - each other over, say, NFL and Stern. Personally, I think it's about as likely as a Michael Chrichton novel. That is: Fun to think about, and maybe even technically feasible, but never going to happen. -- Xpovos
[2006-08-23 15:37:50] - There's no reason they couldn't merge and then have a period where they got everyone onto a new reciever, switched to one frequency, sold the remainder back to the FCC, and had doubly-redudant sattelites for better coverage, particularly in cities. Then with the merger of content, not only would the subscribers have more options, but they wouldn't be in bidding wars with
[2006-08-23 15:36:28] - a: I don't know the technical aspects. I simply know there's been a lot of scuttlebutt from various sources trying to at least stir up rumors of a merger. My understanding of it is that XM and Sirius each have a large chunk of bandwidth from the FCC (paid) and each have their own sattelites in orbit (3 or 4, with some redundancies) broadcasting on those frequencies.
[2006-08-23 15:28:19] - don't they have a very different technology? like don't they have an incompatible technology? like i know they could merge their (non technical) radio programs, but their satelites systems are technically very different. ~a
[2006-08-23 15:14:43] - Paul: Have you read any of those XM/Sirius merger rumors? Any opinion on the matter? -- Xpovos
[2006-08-23 14:41:32] - Dave: Hopefully you're right about people realizing they can't sell their houses for a lot. We'll have to see. -Paul
[2006-08-23 14:40:43] - Xpovos: Yeah, Sirius has been doing ok the past week or so. I'm still leery enough that I don't want to buy more in hopes of a bigger upswing. I have been looking lustily at XM, though. -Paul
[2006-08-23 14:08:23] - forget rate. the position is lower than in was in 2000. (dji and s&p anyways) ~a
[2006-08-23 14:02:50] - dave: you're kidding. the stock market is lower than it was in 2000! ~a
[2006-08-23 13:40:12] - paul: altho I suppose a pure analogy would be the stock market increasing at the same rate it was in 2004, which might not be so bad -dave
[2006-08-23 13:39:46] - paul: the thing about the rate being lowest since 2004 - I think it's like the stock market, it's always supposed to go up. Like if the stock market were at the same point it was in 2004, that's be extremely bad -dave
[2006-08-23 13:38:33] - paul: give it another year or so and I think housing prices will still be the same, or down even. If we actually go into recession then expect this to accelerate -dave
[2006-08-23 13:37:13] - paul: well, housing prices are going up very slightly, but the inventory of houses is huge right now, enough for 7.3 months apparently. People will eventually realize they can't sell their houses for that much and start lowering prices -dave
[2006-08-23 12:38:05] - Woo! The bulls have taken back Sirius. Two up days on two down days, and a 5 day up-trend. I'd consider profit-taking shortly if I weren't down... -- Xpovos
[2006-08-23 12:19:09] - aPaul: It's slowing down more in other areas than it is here, too. We have such a strong economy in this area, that it'll have to get really bad before we see prices drop significantly here. But someplace urban, but more suscetible, say Ft. Wayne, IN, is pretty well hosed in the near future. Prices have already dipped, and are on the verge of plummeting. -- Xpovos
[2006-08-23 11:32:04] - a: It seems less like the housing market is doing badly, and more like it's slowing down from the insane pace of the last few years. -Paul
[2006-08-23 11:31:24] - a: Yeah, a lot of the talk is all doom and gloom but some of the stats don't look bad at all. "The July rate is lowest since January 2004". That's not surprising because the rate of home sales were so high for a couple of years. -Paul
[2006-08-23 11:27:50] - where people = people i don't like to say the least. ~a
[2006-08-23 11:26:38] - my fear is that the talk is what's going to affect the economy. all these people SAYING the prices are going down will actually MAKE the prices go down
~a[2006-08-23 11:26:06] - paul: because it's just talk! ~a
[2006-08-23 11:15:08] - http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/CNBC/Dispatch/060823markets.aspx It makes me sad that despite all this talk about it being a buyer's market and the housing sector sucking hard, housing prices are still going up.
-Paul[2006-08-23 10:58:21] - http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=082206D walmart helps chinese out of poverty. - mig
[2006-08-23 10:43:21] - Dave: Unless you think that my "association" with Republicans soils their good name.
-Paul[2006-08-23 10:36:18] - Paul: =P fine, I don't know why I should be worried about you being labeled as that -dave
[2006-08-23 10:33:29] - Dave: If you want help, then Adrian thinks that I am a closet Republican posing as a libertarian for unknown reasons. That's pretty much all you need to know.
-Paul[2006-08-23 10:29:32] - Dave: I try to not help. -Paul
[2006-08-23 10:18:42] - paul: you're not helping =P -dave
[2006-08-23 10:18:33] - a: i would probably agree with the hating most democrats, but I don't think he loves most republicans -dave
[2006-08-23 10:13:33] - a: i tried to go to weirdal.com to verify the authenticity of that myspace page you posted a link to, but it looks like it's been slashdotted
- aaron[2006-08-23 10:13:09] - a: you posted that link 1 day after i read at weirdal.com about all these people on myspace pretending to be weird al - aaron
[2006-08-23 10:03:53] - Dave: Isn't it obvious? That's why I always support the Republican position on everything. -Paul
[2006-08-23 09:47:15] - dave: he calls himself a libertarian, but on many occasions, he's said that he hates most (all) democrats and loves most (all) of the gop. ~a
[2006-08-23 09:45:39] - dave: you didn't know that? ~a
[2006-08-23 09:31:19] - dave: I'm inclined to believe his family. The man is insane, but probably not guilty of this crime (from my perspective). -- Xpovos
[2006-08-23 09:19:08] - paul: i think the allen decline might have more to do with the general decline of the GOP over this year than anything else. - mig
[2006-08-23 09:11:28] - http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/23/ramsey.arrest/index.html this is kinda bizarre. the victim's family doesn't think he did it, but he claims he did? -dave
[2006-08-23 09:03:55] - a: paul's a republican? 00 -dave
[2006-08-22 20:13:28] - don't take away money from artists just like me, how else can i afford another solid gold humvee? ~a
[2006-08-22 19:48:15] - because like all republicans you are able to see two sides of a coin. ~a
[2006-08-22 18:10:51] - a: Then why would this stop me from voting for him now? -Paul
[2006-08-22 17:58:01] - yes. because you're a republican. ~a
[2006-08-22 17:56:51] - a: You're assuming I was going to before? -Paul
[2006-08-22 17:53:50] - so now you're not going to vote for him?
~a[2006-08-22 17:53:38] - hahahaha. that's pretty funny. ~a
[2006-08-22 17:45:06] - "In mid-1998, Allen joined the board of directors of Xybernaut,[9] a company selling mobile, flip-screen computers. The firm never made a profit - it posted 33 consecutive quarterly losses after it went public in 1996." Damn him!
-Paul[2006-08-22 17:25:37] - I would be shocked if this incident caused George Allen to lose his senate race. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong about something.
-Paul[2006-08-22 17:24:49] - aba: I wonder if this is a permanent drop or more of a temporary hit. -Paul
[2006-08-22 17:13:50] - aba: that's probably true -dave
[2006-08-22 16:57:27] - http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=51530 george allen is falling in the polls. - aba
[2006-08-22 16:57:15] - mrrrr. personally i think it would prevent a lot of arguing if the non-religious (governmental, whatever) verbage was changed to civil union across the board. let the religious people have marriage. *shrug* - aba
[2006-08-22 15:34:07] - dave: i retract my previous statement to you. i can see reasons for voting for/against a vote in both directions. ~a
[2006-08-22 15:31:52] - assuming they're not both transvestites. ~a
[2006-08-22 15:31:25] - sam: i think a male transvestite (who hasn't filed for a change of gender if there is such a thing) can only marry a female so to an onlooker it would appear to be a same sex wedding. ~a
[2006-08-22 15:30:17] - dave: look at it this way, if you want something to pass, there's no way in hell you'd be against putting it to a vote. the same isn't true about if you don't want it to pass. ~a
[2006-08-22 15:29:06] - (assuming we're not talking about massachusetts) legally they can marry people who are of a different gender than their legal gender. ~a
[2006-08-22 15:28:37] - a: that's interesting, i wonder if it had better or worse chances of passing a vote as passing the vote to have a vote -dave
[2006-08-22 15:27:31] - what about transvestites? who can they marry? -sam
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