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[2007-07-17 13:31:58] - Paul: English, mostly. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-17 13:29:09] - a: What is the message board written in now? Is it Perl? -Paul
[2007-07-17 10:27:12] - a: And it only took a fictional 300x boost in one of my stocks. -Paul
[2007-07-17 10:24:32] - wow. paul's a millionaire. ~a
[2007-07-17 10:20:17] - Xpovos: Cool, my 123 shares of Dow chemical must be worth a fortune now. -Paul
[2007-07-17 10:14:51] - Paul: Yes. Thank goodness I hedged my short position in time. Otherwise I'd be in for a world of hurt. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-17 09:58:24] - Xpovos: Dow chemical?
-Paul[2007-07-17 09:46:19] - Dow looks set to hit 14,000 today no sweat. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-16 20:01:59] -
~a[2007-07-16 18:18:08] - a: well seeing as it's my code, i hardly believe something else could be better
- aaron[2007-07-16 17:52:49] - depending on complicatedness, what you currently have might be better than using xstream. ~a
[2007-07-16 17:47:02] - a: awesome thanks, we're using a custom sax parser for now but we might rewrite our code to use xstream next monday - aaron
[2007-07-16 15:52:53] - i've used axis for something else. it was XStream that i used to do the automatic object creation. http://xstream.codehaus.org/ . . . here is a really good example of how to use xstream: http://xstream.codehaus.org/objectstream.html . ~a
[2007-07-16 15:51:04] - shit no. scratch that. ~a
[2007-07-16 15:48:20] - http://ws.apache.org/axis/ ~a
[2007-07-16 15:48:10] - it will create objects from xml, but i believe that you need to create the classes that the xml objects are loaded into. ~a
[2007-07-16 15:46:39] - i wouldn't call it swank, but apache axis is all automatic like and shit. ~a
[2007-07-16 15:45:53] - ehem. sorry. ~a
[2007-07-16 14:04:03] - aaron: Looks like you're entering a world of pain. - Kaleb
[2007-07-16 13:43:32] - a: iow <grapes> maps to A/B/grapecount, <lebowski> maps to A/C/the_dude - aaron
[2007-07-16 13:42:27] - a: we have an object "A" which has a "B", "C", and "D" objects. we want to construct one of those from flat XML but there's no package i've ever heard of which can do that - aaron
[2007-07-16 13:41:55] - a: what do you use for mapping between XML and java objects? i thought you used some swank package for that stuff - aaron
[2007-07-15 20:41:34] - pierce: oh yeah you're right, the 2d gameplay looks kinda weak now - aaron
[2007-07-15 16:15:06] - http://www.g4tv.com/e32007/blog/date/07102007/index.html#677235 the second video shows new footage of spore. - pierce
[2007-07-15 12:35:20] - pierce: haha! they have baby creatures now. that's really adorable, i don't think i saw that in the last spore vid. - aaron
[2007-07-15 12:29:38] - i haven't seen a vid of the new 2d gameplay - aaron
[2007-07-15 02:41:03] - aaron: also I HATE U - pierce
[2007-07-15 02:40:52] - aaron: yeah, I noticed that too. I'm not totally sold on the new style, particularly in the 2D gameplay. I liked the old version, which actually looked like you were watching a microscope slide. - pierce
[2007-07-15 02:24:41] - gurkie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ImBm7P-bmY&mode=related&search= footbag - aaron
[2007-07-15 00:58:04] - pierce: also YOU GOT RICKROLL'D - aaron
[2007-07-15 00:57:08] - pierce: it looks like they made the creatures a lot more cartoony also - aaron
[2007-07-14 20:26:54] - hmm, by the looks of the wiki page they've added a lot to the scripted content which was probably a major time suck. that will probably increase it's appeal, but on the other hand simcity was wildly successful based solely on its open-endedness. - pierce
[2007-07-14 20:11:27] - I do kinda wonder about that incredible demo will wright gave of spore that showed gameplay at every level and fairly polished editing screens and the walking and the fighting and the civilizations and whatnot. a lot of the game seemed more "done" than most other games, how can they still have so much work ahead? - pierce
[2007-07-14 20:08:52] - considering we're still probably a year in advance of the spore release, I think there's still a lot of judgement to be reserved. - pierce
[2007-07-14 20:04:19] - http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/16/spore-confirmed-for-wii-sorta/ the link without the rickroll misdirect - pierce
[2007-07-14 14:55:21] - http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/16/spore-confirmed-for-wii-sorta/ Will Wright confirms Spore on the Wii
[2007-07-14 10:18:33] - pierce: i actually think the fact that it's divisible by 7 is a coincidence. the complicated leap year rule doesn't exist to keep the week on schedule: the rule exists to keep the year on schedule. ~a
[2007-07-13 22:32:10] - vinnie: I agree, plus, I had both albums in my car at the time, and not internet access. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-13 18:52:02] - it's weird that we'd retroactively come up with a way in which a seven-day week isn't 100% arbitrary. - pierce
[2007-07-13 17:43:31] - every 400 years, there are 97 leap years (the leap year rule is complicated, but every 400 years, there are exactly 97 leap years). 400*365 + 97 is 146097. so, there are 146097 days in 400 years. 146097 is divisible by 7, so every 400 years things repeat exactly. ~a
[2007-07-13 17:33:19] - a: but... but... oh leap year screws it up... huh? ~gurkie
[2007-07-13 17:32:26] - gurkie: there is a pattern, it isn't totally random. every 400 years the cycle repeats. if you add up all the 13ths over all 400 years, the distribution is almost even. ~a
[2007-07-13 16:56:24] - kaleb: how can that possibly work? I mean I could see it for a given year maybe, but not over the duration of time... Seems like it would have to be equally likely. ~Gurkie
[2007-07-13 16:44:32] - xpovos: yah. I could google but where's the fun? - vinnie
[2007-07-13 16:43:33] - a: Statistically speaking, The 13th day of the month is slightly more likely to be on a Friday than on any other day of the week. At least, that's what Wikipedia tells me. - Kaleb
[2007-07-13 16:27:02] - whoh. it's friday the 13th. ~a
[2007-07-13 15:54:03] - vinnie: I know that feeling. I had to listen to two whole albums by an artist once because I thought the lyric I was remembering was in a completely different song than I was expecting. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-13 15:48:50] - pierce: i refuse to squirt anything on anyone. ~a
[2007-07-13 15:28:26] - dammit I have a Cure song in my head now and I THINK that lyric is in it but I'm not sure - vinnie
[2007-07-13 14:43:20] - dave: you're right, that is intriguing. on a related topic, who decided to use the word "squirt" to describe wireless music sharing on the zune? I can't think of many other words that make it less appealing as an activity. - pierce
[2007-07-13 10:09:32] - aaron: i watched the show this morning... I thought they almost made the right decision... what did you think?~gurkie
[2007-07-13 09:00:22] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070712-patents-from-microsoft-and-apple-reveal-bigger-wifi-plans-for-zune-ipod.html the MS patent is intriguing -dave
[2007-07-13 00:30:22] - I made you eat your parents
[2007-07-12 16:33:35] - 地球上
[2007-07-12 14:39:05] - aaron: k. ~a
[2007-07-12 14:35:53] - a: sfm? - aaron
[2007-07-12 14:25:50] - aaron: yes. but i'm also going to the movie. where is ddr this week? ~a
[2007-07-12 14:23:18] - a: are you coming to ddr? - aaron
[2007-07-12 14:21:49] - a:yea I just noticed that... Geico has these "gotcha" files where it talks about catching people committing insurance fraud and they had it written as below... ~gurkie
[2007-07-12 14:20:55] - blah Geico had it wrong on their website... California Department of Insurance ~gurkie
[2007-07-12 14:11:39] - gurkie: California Department of Insurance
~a[2007-07-12 14:10:03] - i like this acronym California Insurance Department, Fraud Division (CDI) how do they get CDI I mean all the Ds are after the I ~gurkie
[2007-07-12 13:47:17] - a: No, but depending on the driver, he may not respond. Generally, it's less a rule and more that people who don't know each other don't talk. It's up to the driver to set the tone for most things: windows, radio, talk, etc. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-12 13:46:16] - a: Slug driver has his car in the city. I generally only drive when I need my car; e.g. I need to drive somewhere else after work. Some people need to drive in every day, or simply have the desire to. If you have to drive, you might as well drive in the HOV--so grab slugs. System needs more slugs than drivers anyway (HOV-3) 1 driver for every 2 slugs. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-12 13:45:03] - ok, i read the article and it still didn't answer my question, but it did bring up new questions. like "No talking unless the driver initiates". that seems very silly. if i say something to somebody, they'll tell me to shutup? ~a
[2007-07-12 13:40:58] - xpovos: that doesn't seem like a good idea. wouldn't everybody want to be a rider? you don't have to spend any money in gas/car. i.e. what are the benefits of being a slug driver vs. being a slug rider? ~a
[2007-07-12 13:31:12] - Using the HOV lanes saves an hour to an hour and a half on a normal day, more on bad days. So the driver gets in faster, the slugs get in faster, and everyone is happy. When I drive in I always pick up slugs. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-12 13:30:21] - a: See my wikipedia link to slugging. For a free ride, I get in a line and wait. In specifics, the line I am in has drivers going up 14th Street to various points, the Navy Yard, and L'Enfant Plaza. In exchange for my free ride the driver gets the extra body(ies) needed to use the HOV lanes legally. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-12 13:24:24] - a(aron): I'm skipping DDR today for the movie - vinnie
[2007-07-12 12:09:53] - wait wait, ride share is free? how the hell does that work? ~a
[2007-07-12 11:49:39] - http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/12/world/middleeast/12iraq.html?_r=1&oref=slogin Sweet merciful crap what was $250M doing in Baghdad? -- Xpovos
[2007-07-12 11:11:51] - a: I don't snore, and even if I did, don't go that deeply asleep even in the best of times. It's really just a cat-nap. I've heard people snore, though. It's funny in a sad way. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-12 11:11:05] - a: I pay ~$5 a week to commute right now. I can't even fathom how much that would increase if I took VRE. I'd still be paying the $5/wk to drive to the station, then the fare? And it's not significantly faster. God bless HOV. I'd still need the shuttles from L'Enfant, so that would stay too. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-12 10:42:42] - i understand it though. my smartest coworkers are from referrals. plus i was from a referral
~a[2007-07-12 10:39:16] - a: wow, that's pretty nutso -dave
[2007-07-12 10:20:40] - xpovos: Virginia Railway Express? seems like l'enfant is pretty close to your work. ~a
[2007-07-12 10:07:22] - xpovos: they don't get mad if you snore? ~a
[2007-07-12 10:06:52] - dave: mine has a 5k plus an additional lottery system. ~a
[2007-07-12 08:35:11] - i like having a 15 mins commute, gives me some driving time which is fun but not too stressful -dave
[2007-07-12 08:10:54] - For pretty much all of those steps, except #1 I can read, and for a number of them, I can sleep, or at least nap/doze. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-12 08:10:03] - 6) Wait in line. 0-25 minutes 7) Take shuttle to my building 15-20 minutes. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-12 08:09:22] - a: Here are the steps in my commute. 1) Drive to parking lot ~8 miles, 15-20 minutes depending on traffic and lights. 2) Wait in line 0-20 minutes. 3) Get in slug. 4) Be driven into D.C. 35-65 minutes depending on traffic and other factors. 5) Walk from slug drop off to shuttle line. 2-3 minutes depending on the lights.
[2007-07-12 08:00:48] - jeez, my company has a 3.5k referral bonus -dave
[2007-07-11 18:01:22] - riley
[2007-07-11 15:57:18] - xpovos: you take the train then? if not, then how exactly can you read/sleep? ~a
[2007-07-11 15:41:35] - gurkie: I'm a fan of metro when it works. I don't know enough about your specific situation to know if it works. Metro decidedly does not work for me. I'd have to drive almost twenty miles in bad traffic just to get to the closest metro station. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-11 14:31:29] - xpovos: ive been considering trying to take the metro in... Just havent decided if its worth it... On normal days its not as bad as i was this morning. I think. ~gurkie
[2007-07-11 14:27:05] - Sorry your commute is almost as sucky as mine. Mine might actually be better because a large portion of that time I'm able to read and/or sleep. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-11 14:26:30] - gurkie: I think the diet coke ratio sounds about right, at least from the IT folks I see around here drinking it like it's going out of style. Water seems high, though. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-11 13:19:40] - s/but/or/
[2007-07-11 13:19:26] - is it me but does it seem weird that an IT deptartment's soda machine would have 3 Diet Cokes, 3 Waters, 1 Coke, 1 Sprite, and 1 Ice Tea? I feel like there should be more coke, mountain dew, dr pepper, and non health aware options ~gurkie
[2007-07-11 13:09:15] - xpovos: you beat me! if thats really winning... my drive is probably an hour ten on average... but then 10 minutes of walking so you barely beat/have it worse then me ~gurkie
[2007-07-11 11:54:21] - Hour and a half each way on average. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-11 11:14:20] - i really want a job where i can walk to work... or drive in less then 10 minutes... oh wait i wonder if cgi is hiring
kidding... ~gurkie[2007-07-11 10:58:44] - *** a pokes xpovos and yells "commuting times"
[2007-07-11 10:45:08] - Don't get me started on commuting times. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-11 10:02:05] - Gurkie: If you had worked for intwine, you wouldn't have had to drive nearly as much.
-Paul[2007-07-11 09:53:28] - s/driving/driving in slow traffic/
[2007-07-11 09:53:10] - seriously though, i hate driving too. my commute must always be less than 0:30 round trip. ~a
[2007-07-11 09:52:12] - if you had gotten starbucks twice then you would have made an even 2:00. ~a
[2007-07-11 09:47:52] - seriously it took me 1:50 door to door from home to work this morning
i hate driving. Although to be fair i stopped and picked up starbucks, but there was no line and it was immediately on my way so it prolly accounted for 10 mins. ~gurkie[2007-07-11 01:19:37] - man, it's a bad sign when chocolate left in your apartment at "room temperature" is melted. I miss AC. - pierce
[2007-07-10 17:37:03] - vinnie: omg I think I know what product aar posted! I cant see amazon from here... But I am pretty sure I have seen that before. ~gurkie
[2007-07-10 16:34:26] - vinnie: you're referring to the milk?
~a[2007-07-10 16:28:25] - "Bought it for my cousin who had cancer, item never arrived and my cousin died." - vinnie
[2007-07-10 15:50:19] - dave: that is why you will fail. ~a
[2007-07-10 15:48:57] - a: I don't think I agree -dave
[2007-07-10 15:36:24] - dave: My readings indicate that the 2PM sell-off is typically a mutual fund based issue; that the funds make their decisions in the day and then set them to execute at or around 2PM. So if the morning is going poorly and a lot of funds decide to sell to get out of trouble, you can see a massive dive at 2PM. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-10 15:24:31] - the=they ~a
[2007-07-10 15:24:23] - dave: yes but if the occur frequently then they're probably so general that they're useless. ~a
[2007-07-10 15:01:33] - xpovos: there are several general market day graphs that occur quite frequently -dave
[2007-07-10 15:01:06] - xpovos: yes I have -dave
[2007-07-10 14:33:03] - paul: he's asking if we noticed that market changes happen around 2pm. my answer is no. ~a
[2007-07-10 14:15:44] - Xpovos: I'm confused, what are you saying? -Paul
[2007-07-10 14:05:27] - dave+a+Paul: Noticed the market trend (particularly on big down days like today) for a major price move around 2PM? -- Xpovos
[2007-07-10 14:04:43] - gurkie: calfs? -- Xpovos
[2007-07-10 13:50:35] - title: who tried? ~gurkie
[2007-07-10 12:48:03] - gurkie: The judge. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-10 12:07:33] - xpovos: truth to power? what does that mean... ~gurkie
[2007-07-10 10:49:30] - Xpovos: Hehehe, true. I can refer them to some of my past journal entries as proof to my sexism.
-Paul[2007-07-10 10:47:43] - Paul: Only you wouldnt get called out for perjury 'cause you'd be speaking truth to power. Or something.
-- Xpovos[2007-07-10 10:02:41] - Aaron: Should I be concerned that that link sounds like something I would do?
-Paul[2007-07-10 10:00:04] - Perjury? -- Xpovos
[2007-07-10 09:56:51] - http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/07/10/reluctant.juror.ap/index.html this sounds like something paul might do if he were selected for jury duty. i guess it's not a good idea - aaron
[2007-07-10 08:22:52] - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B00032G1S0/sr=8-1/qid=1184014911/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_summary/002-0914073-9489614?ie=UTF8&n=3370831&s=gourmet-food don't know wtf is up with this product@amazon, but the user submitted pictures and reviews are weird - aaron
[2007-07-09 16:18:54] - a: I can see how that would be inconsistent with my statements, but I'm mostly going to have to agree with gurkie. they're members of a consent-able species even if they're not presently capable of giving consent. I'm not sure if there's a logical basis supporting that perspective but it's the perspective I'm using nonetheless. - pierce
[2007-07-09 15:43:25] - a: children are considered to always "not consent" under the law... and yes that term should be used there. (imho)~gurkie
[2007-07-09 15:41:08] - children can't give consent either (according to the law). you think "rape" shouldn't be used there? ~a
[2007-07-09 15:23:52] - gurkie: too mean
- pierce[2007-07-09 15:23:42] - I guess it comes down to the difference between will and consent. animals obviously have will but by most people's definitions they can't give consent. I'm not sure where the line is drawn, but I normally think of the definition of the word "rape" to be on the consent side of it. - pierce
[2007-07-09 15:22:11] - I just want to be super clear: I think that a dog can be forced to mate against its will, and that it's abusive behavior if a human forces it into that situation. I agree with dave that "rape stand" was probably the most concise way to describe it, but I was simply remarking that it deviated in a very significant way from how I would normally define "rape." - pierce
[2007-07-09 15:19:34] - pierce: from your days in the wild as a dog? ~gurkie
[2007-07-09 15:19:07] - paul: I don't think it's that simple; in the wild I think males compete for the female, but then the female will also defend herself from an unwanted mate (or from a desirable one, presumably as a test and/or foreplay). I may be way off with this information, but that's how I remember it. - pierce
[2007-07-09 14:47:13] - Forgive my ignorance of dogs, but don't they go into heat and that's how things work? Isn't a female in heat basically just lying around waiting for any male to mate with? Do they really reject anybody? -Paul
[2007-07-09 14:45:17] - the whole concept of tying a dog up is going to make me lose my lunch. and i think its very very very different from arrainging for the two dogs to meet and see if they want to have a go at it. ~gurkie
[2007-07-09 14:21:39] - pierce: yeah, i agree with you that it's a somewhat different issue than the human variety, but I think their naming of it gets their meaning (of what the thing is used for) across pretty directly. Pretty efficient too, kinda hard to describe it otherwise with one adjective to get the point across -dave
[2007-07-09 14:19:19] - http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ ignore this if you've seen it already -dave
[2007-07-09 14:10:17] - i guess they are different. never mind. you can ignore me. ~a
[2007-07-09 14:09:51] - i mean . . . isn't that more-or-less what i said? ~a
[2007-07-09 14:09:33] - xpovos: semantics? ~a
[2007-07-09 14:06:33] - a: I don't want to put words into Pierce's mouth, but I don't think he said "forcing an animal to mate againt [its] will is commonplace" I believe he said "forcing an animal to mate against its will is non-sensical based on (human) definitions of will and consent." -- Xpovos
[2007-07-09 13:21:17] - mig: that's what pierce was saying. forcing an animal to mate against their will is commonplace. ~a
[2007-07-09 13:19:56] - anon: thanks -anon
[2007-07-09 13:14:16] - you can also argue that dog breeders are forcing their dogs to mate against their will as well. - mig
[2007-07-09 13:12:51] - anon: http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Many-Shades-of-Cout.aspx
[2007-07-09 12:31:00] - title: seriously?
[2007-07-09 12:24:39] - doesn't the issue of "abuse" in that sense become murkier when it comes to actually breeding the animals anyway? isn't most farm animal breeding coerced to one extent or another? I don't know, I'm honestly not very familiar with the subject. - pierce
[2007-07-09 12:18:57] - dave+aaron: I totally get that, and I'm not arguing that it isn't abuse. just that the word "rape" has connotations of a human having sex with someone (or arguably something) without consent. that may just be my opinion though, I'm not sure how that holds up to dictionary or practical definitions of the word. - pierce
[2007-07-09 12:12:30] - dave: yeah thanks i was gonna contest that argument too - aaron
[2007-07-09 12:12:02] - errr, is somewhat distinct -dave
[2007-07-09 12:11:48] - pierce: well i'm not sure it's all that helpful to try to delve into animal consent, but tying up the female dog and letting the male dog have his way is someone distinct from just putting the two dogs in the same area -dave
[2007-07-09 10:09:28] - mig: the urban dictionary doesn't have it. ~a
[2007-07-09 09:01:55] - pierce: i think the name is just the underground jargon for it. - mig
[2007-07-07 23:07:13] - that's not to say that I don't see the possibility of cruelty in physically restraining a female dog for that purpose, I just don't think the terminology is accurate. - pierce
[2007-07-07 23:06:06] - ew. that story turns my stomach. one thing though, they described a "rape stand" for breeding the dogs. is that an actual term or something the press has made up? I wouldn't have thought that the term "rape" would make any sense in the context of breeding animals, since they can't consent anyway. - pierce
[2007-07-07 14:04:30] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2927560 Vick unlikely to be indicted on dog fighting charges -dave
[2007-07-06 21:17:36] - excellent. ~a
[2007-07-06 16:36:58] - a: ur right... we were. But I reinterpreted it when trying to understand how Dave's comment fit... And I wasnt going to attach one to me if i got one, this is getting too yucky to think about~gurkie
[2007-07-06 16:24:37] - gurkie: i thought we were talking about male body parts, not the males themselves. ~a
[2007-07-06 15:43:50] - gurkie: ahh hehe -dave
[2007-07-06 15:31:32] - aaron: when i first heard his response i was like maybe he thinks i dont need a guy (or any part of one) if i have money... ~gurkie
[2007-07-06 15:26:07] - dave: you should read the link... basically pensions got spell checked into male anatomy and offered for sale by an insurance company... but thanks for the annuity info~gurkie
[2007-07-06 15:19:02] - generally though, you want to invest some of it, because the investments generally will give better returns than an annuity. But then you put some into annuity so that if your investments are going through a downturn, you still have some steady income -dave
[2007-07-06 15:18:15] - or you can buy several annuities from several places if you think they might go out of business -dave
[2007-07-06 15:17:51] - buying an annuity, which is the same as a pension basically -dave
[2007-07-06 15:17:38] - gurkie: I didn't read the link, i was just responding to the idea of pensions. Since pensions are linked to companies that can fail, your pension isn't entirely guaranteed. If you take the pension payout instead (the company gives you the money they would have invested to give you your pension), then you can invest it yourself (including turning right around and ... ) -dav
[2007-07-06 15:06:20] - dave: yeah i listen to pandora every day at work - aaron
[2007-07-06 15:05:50] - gurkie: either didn't check the link or his suggestion is weird and foreign to me - aaron
[2007-07-06 14:39:10] - dave: did you read the pension link? I dont get it! why would i want stocks/bonds/annuities??? ~gurkie
[2007-07-06 14:38:03] - dave: Pandora is awesome, but they really risk being shut down because of the hiked rates for music fees. Internet play fees are going to skyrocket over the next few years. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-06 13:57:58] - http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/06/child.driver.chase.ap/index.html hehe, 11 year old girl charged with DUI and other stuff after leading police on a car chase -dave
[2007-07-06 13:56:13] - have you guys been here? I've found it pretty good for finding new music based on old music http://www.pandora.com/ -dave
[2007-07-06 13:34:53] - xpovos: I would also probably have chucked a chair or desk at him before running at him -dave
[2007-07-06 13:34:36] - xpovos: well i would probably yell "let's rush him" and then run at him. If no one followed, then that'd be too bad -dave
[2007-07-06 13:30:59] - dave: I agree with you, and would hope I'd have that kind of courage too, but at the same time, I think most people seeing a failed attempt at a runner and tackler would be less likely to assist, rather than more. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-06 13:06:39] - Cho was putting multiple shots in each victim according to reports I read. That tends to stop even the zombies. It also means you need more than one hero; and that they all have to get the heroic instinct at once. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-06 13:05:06] - Xpovos: On top of that, I would have rushed him fully expecting to die, but the hope would be that in running at him and perhaps collapsing on him while dying, other people could take him down easier -dave
[2007-07-06 13:03:24] - Xpovos: Tis also true, but they were only semi-automatic, and as zombie movies have taught us, that does little to stop several people coming at you at once -dave
[2007-07-06 12:33:26] - dave: The type and number of guns being used was likely a major factor. The guns Cho used had fairly decent stopping power and he had two, plus lots of ammo, so he wasn't worried about 'wasting' shots. Whereas this gun assailaint likely only had one gun, quite probably with less stopping power. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-06 12:18:10] - a: and I'm not really faulting any of the students or teachers, I'm just saying that I was surprised no one tackled him (or maybe people did and we didn't hear about it) -dave
[2007-07-06 12:17:26] - a: tis true. I understand it's not the same situation. He certainly was inside a classroom full of students though. -dave
[2007-07-06 12:03:14] - i can imagine it's much harder to tackle somebody when he's got hallways to stalk than if he's just surrounded by people. ~a
[2007-07-06 11:53:29] - incidentally, no one was eriously injured -dave
[2007-07-06 11:52:50] - errr, Tech students, not take students -dave
[2007-07-06 11:52:36] - that's what I would have thought more take students would have done, tried to take down the gunman -dave
[2007-07-06 11:52:15] - "A man on a walkway over the New York-New York casino floor opened fire on the gamblers below early Friday, wounding four people before he was tackled by officers and patrons, police said." -dave
[2007-07-06 11:50:07] - gurkie: or instead of pension, do a combo of stocks/bonds/annuities ^_^ -dave
[2007-07-06 11:48:05] - kaleb: accept or prefer? ~gurkie
[2007-07-06 08:40:34] - kaleb: you win! - pierce
[2007-07-05 19:07:15] - I'd go for an extra pension; though I'd also accept a pension extension. - Kaleb
[2007-07-05 17:53:13] - - pierce
[2007-07-05 17:53:07] - paul: I think the obvious solution is to go barefoot, hobbit-style
[2007-07-05 17:45:22] - Gurkie: It's lose/lose. Either I wear shoes that everyone thinks is ugly or girls think I'm gay.
-Paul[2007-07-05 17:07:48] - paul: thats what you get for showing me the shoes you buy... people think you really like shoes and guys with flat butts... ~gurkie
[2007-07-05 17:07:22] - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3701842512766451468 - pierce
[2007-07-05 16:43:31] - Yes, it seems that I have a lot of gay mannerisms and that my keen interest in shoes is also a dead give-away. -Paul
[2007-07-05 16:33:01] - a: i wasn't there but a little bird sent me an email about it
[2007-07-05 16:27:20] - anonymous: oh yeah, how was paul's thing yesterday? ~a
[2007-07-05 16:20:49] - who posted that about paul? I know he will blame me but I didnt write it! (even though its true and was hilarious) ~gurkie
[2007-07-05 16:20:21] - a: you might be right... i should look into getting a pension
~gurkie[2007-07-05 16:17:04] - Aaron: Thanks! - Lori
[2007-07-05 16:16:50] - so Paul was mistaken for a gay man yesterday.....
[2007-07-05 16:05:51] - lori: according to wikipedia, HP, IBM, Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Oracle Corporation, and Cisco - aaron
[2007-07-05 16:04:44] - gurkie: i can't imagine much practical use for an extra pension - aaron
[2007-07-05 16:04:31] - hey all: I need a little help. What companies can you think of that had PR problems as a result of sending their labor overseas? (Like firing everyone in the US and openign call centers in India)? - Lori
[2007-07-05 16:04:12] - gurkie: you could use a pension yourself. ~a
[2007-07-05 15:41:33] - aaron: you should totally invest in an extra pension... ~gurkie
[2007-07-05 15:13:21] - http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Peddling-Pensions.aspx lol - aaron
[2007-07-05 13:47:52] - But that is some pretty damning data. Still, I think the technology developed from this is completely worthwhile and will deliver us far better vehicles, including effective PEHVs in the near (5-10 year) future, and so any extra 'costs' shown here can be discounted as necessary steps on the learning curve. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-05 13:46:51] - Prius debate revisted We spoke about this on here before, but this is pretty detailed. Don't get me wrong, I love the Prius (and if Toyota wasn't the manufacturer, I might even own one) ....
[2007-07-05 12:00:30] - vinnie: cool. i didn't bring my cell phone today, so if you have anything to tell me just beam it telepathically - aaron
[2007-07-05 11:03:44] - aaron: my extended family is in town from iowa. i won't be at ddr today either (
) ~a[2007-07-05 09:17:55] - aaron: I'll be there - vinnie
[2007-07-05 08:27:55] - ddr_people: sfm? - aaron
[2007-07-05 07:53:44] - http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070705025637.vyh5u7g0
[2007-07-04 19:12:46] - mig: if it looked like hitler was going to win by one vote (in a way that my vote would have electoral meaning), I'd vote for bush. ideally I wouldn't support any of them, but I also wouldn't be very happy if my abstention led to a hitler presidency. - pierce
[2007-07-04 16:20:31] - rather than vote for the lesser of two evils it may be better not to vote for evil in the first place. - mig
[2007-07-04 16:19:35] - pierce: you do realize that in the event of a bush vs. lector/godwin/hitler scenario that maybe a more viable alternative would be perhaps to not vote at all. - mig
[2007-07-04 03:03:01] - well i was wrong. ~a
[2007-07-04 02:05:33] - pierce: happy one more hour till the fourth . . . i don't plan on staying up another hour. ~a
[2007-07-04 00:51:03] - happy fourth of july, you east coast chumps
- pierce[2007-07-03 19:17:01] - Paul: if he ran against Hitler or Hannibal Lecter or Mike Godwin I might've. Depends on their stands on the issues. - pierce
[2007-07-03 18:52:10] - Pierce: Are you saying you were going to vote for Bush for a third term until this happened?
-Paul[2007-07-03 18:42:00] - xpovos: to what extent? would it affect my voting tendencies? yes. even though Bush can't run again I'm getting a level of insight from the existing candidates' responses. Would I organize a protest march from Seattle to DC? No. Would I go to a protest in Seattle? Entirely possible. - pierce
[2007-07-03 18:01:13] - pierce: The real question is: do you (or does anyone else) care enough about this to actually make it an issue? My money is on no. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-03 15:19:44] - ...so Bush had to choose: he could either pardon Libby now, in which case he'd have to pardon Libby for contempt whenever congress decided to call him to testify (which would mean two pardoning controversies before the election), or he could commute the sentence, stall while Libby appeals, and then pardon him for the perjury and for future contempt on the way out. - pierce
[2007-07-03 15:15:07] - the way I figure it, Libby was promised he'd never serve time in exchange for keeping his silence. the original plan was to have Libby stall with appeals until after the election, at which point Bush would pardon him on his way out the door. but yesterday they said Libby would have to serve his sentence while his appeals were pending... - pierce
[2007-07-03 15:11:24] - of course, presumably Bush could just pardon the contempt as well, but I'd presume he wouldn't want to go through the bad publicity of this process twice on other people's schedule. - pierce
[2007-07-03 15:09:36] - mig: well the analysis I've read seems to agree that it's pretty clear why he did it. As long as Libby is still guilty and in the appeals process, he can invoke the fifth amendment with respect to investigation of his involvement with executive malfeasance. if he was pardoned, he could be compelled to testify before congress or be held in contempt. - pierce
[2007-07-03 14:46:29] - pierce: ok, then it can be interperted. i just thought it might not have been because i've never heard of a president ever commuting part of a sentance before, but heard of plenty of pardons. - mig
[2007-07-03 14:37:52] - mig: the president "shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States," which has been interpreted to mean shortening or commuting sentences in addition to full pardons. - pierce
[2007-07-03 13:59:31] - mapquest gives you avoid highways, avoid tolls, and avoid seasonally closed roads but nothing about hov ~gurkie
[2007-07-03 13:57:57] - aaron: if you say you are going to IAD it puts you on the dulles access road... But I like your latest idea with we avoided this road because X if you want to use this road check here... Type dealio... ~gurkie
[2007-07-03 13:45:08] - you know, i think an ideal solution would be it gives you the most conservative route, and then a list of the roads it chose not to include, with brief explanations. then you toggle on those roads if you understand the risks - aaron
[2007-07-03 13:42:28] - really i think google's doing the right thing by avoiding the whole mess by just saying "don't give directions that include weird roads" - aaron
[2007-07-03 13:42:07] - not to mention things like roads in DC which are 1-way at certain times of day and 2-ways other times of day, so maybe you should be able to toggle that too - aaron
[2007-07-03 13:41:30] - but yeah the "avoid HOV roads" check box might work, you'd probably also want "avoid toll roads" to be a check box and be able to toggle on things like the airport access road, if you're going to dulles... - aaron
[2007-07-03 13:40:24] - a: it would also have to know the number of passengers, and it would have to hope that number of passengers and time of day were constants
- aaron[2007-07-03 13:10:23] - xpovos: they have an "avoid highways" feature... ~gurkie
[2007-07-03 13:05:41] - mig: I think there's precedence in govenors commuting sentences as well, without extending pardons. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-03 13:04:19] - I want them to implement an "avoid interstates" feature. Most of the time the directions get you there fairly fast, but taking back routes would actually be faster, or at least more direct. But they mapping algorithms have a strong preference for interstates... -- Xpovos
[2007-07-03 12:23:27] - nm im reading up on action events for triggering the consumer app... ~gurkie
[2007-07-03 10:22:41] - I have a ? on Queues, if my consumer is on the other side and I want it to kick in when something is put on the queue do I use a listener port or can I have a trigger/message sent from the queue when the queue receives a msg? I am a little confused... ~gurkie
[2007-07-03 10:17:03] - yeah, "avoid hov" is the simplest way to do it. they could leave it on as the default, for all I care - vinnie
[2007-07-03 09:59:18] - aaron: all they really need is an "avoid hov roads" check mark and then its the onus of the user to know when they can or cant use them.... ~gurkie
[2007-07-03 09:58:37] - a: all they need to do is add an input saying leaving at ___ time and have a dropdown. maybe have a warning that goes with it saying this set of directions is contingent upon the departure time. ~gurkie
[2007-07-03 09:15:16] - does the president really have this constitutional authority? I know he can pardon people but does that really extend to revising sentances handed down as he pleases? I thought this was an all-or-nothing type deal. - mig
[2007-07-03 07:22:44] - pierce: Can you honestly say it's unexpected? I mean, on the one hand, at least it's not a pardon. -- Xpovos
[2007-07-02 22:41:55] - aaron: (i saw this on a message board) google would also have to know when you were planning on making the trip, which is impossible. ~a
[2007-07-02 21:06:24] - gurkie: well the technical workaround would be difficult since HOV changes based on time of day and day of week, and google probably doesn't even have all the HOV data - aaron
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