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2020-02-20 10:17:03] -
a: All I know is that Stratego has no luck, right?
-Paul
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2019-09-22 16:03:21] -
paul: listened to an interesting
npr thing where they measured luck vs skill using statistics. interesting because it's like one of the bases behind pvtm (luck or skill?). but also because i think it was a huge discussion in the great stratego debate (tgsd). they measured the luck vs strategy by determining how players did in the 1st half of a series vs the 2nd half.
~a
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2019-03-15 10:46:11] -
paul: yes, and i guess that means stratego has no luck in it at all.
~a
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2019-03-15 10:42:53] -
a: Good call. I could totally play stratego to lose.
-Paul
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2019-03-15 10:38:24] -
paul: uh oh i hear a stratego argument coming.
~a
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2016-03-01 13:24:42] -
paul: it started with stratego. but after someone pointed out the parallels to battleship, you claimed battleship has no luck as well
- aaron
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2016-03-01 13:07:30] -
Aaron: I thought it was Stratego, but either way...
-Paul
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2016-03-01 09:03:29] -
a: but yeah "output outside of the player's control" isn't a complete definition of luck, there are games which have no output outside of the player's control but which still intuitively have luck, such as stratego, battleship, rock-paper-scissors, "the pi game" or the "pick a complicated door" game
- aaron
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2008-04-10 20:54:22] - i don't think we ever had a
stratgo debate (heh, i was wondering why your post didn't show up in the search results for
stratego)
~a
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2008-04-10 17:15:53] -
vinnie: http://aporter.org/msg/?action=search&search=stratego ~a
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2008-04-10 17:10:01] -
vinnie: paul thought there was NO luck (nothing was left to chance) in stratego.
~a
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2008-04-10 16:48:48] - I don't even remember what that stratego debate was about anymore. did someone think the game was entirely luck?
- vinnie
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2008-04-10 16:27:46] -
xpovos: "Wow, I never thought Stratego would bring about such a heated debate. -BpemR"
~a
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2008-04-10 15:13:54] -
a: actually i think i might have had stratego at one point... it looks like capture the flag (at a first glance of the first paragraph)
~gurkie
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2008-04-10 15:02:58] - it's everybody against paul. who wants to discuss
stratego?
~a
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2005-04-20 17:25:09] -
Oh, the mention of Stratego was cool too.
-Paul
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2004-06-23 15:20:11] -
Pierce: Ah, yes. How naive I once was. I used to think that we needed environmental regulations, that third world immigrants were civilized, and that stratego had skill involved. Skill!
-Paul
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2004-01-21 11:03:00] -
hahaha, I read through that stratego argument again. that may be the only time I could not agree with even a little bit of paul's opinion. i wasn't the one who exhumed that quote though
- vinnie
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2004-01-21 02:54:00] - "Stratego has a lot of strategy to it as well as memorization. I don't see how luck factors in.... -Paul"
[
2000-08-11 14:31:00] - Well he really really likes stratego, and he's pretty good at it. So I can see how he might be offended if we thought there was luck in it
- Aaron
[
2000-08-11 14:23:00] - If luck exists in anything at all, then it exists in stratego. Like Xpovos says.
- Aaron
[
2000-08-11 14:21:00] - We were all shouting at you because Stratego has luck because it has an unknown and unpredictable element!
[
2000-08-11 14:16:00] - Battleship is extremely similar to Stratego in that there are good strategies and bad strategies, but the best strategy can not overcome bad luck
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2000-08-11 14:12:00] -
Paul, a supercomputer could never deduce a solution in Stratego if there was concealed information
[
2000-08-11 14:08:00] - If you didn't use any guesswork when playing stratego, then your opening setups would always be the same!
[
2000-08-11 14:07:00] - Introducing luck by altering my strategy based on guesswork, exactly. I know at least when I play stratego I do a lot of guesswork.
[
2000-08-11 13:58:00] - How about this? A computer AI could be designed which would win at Stratego all the time no matter what the opposing person's set-up
-Paul
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2000-08-11 13:57:00] -
paul, your obstinance is making you sound foolish. by your own definition, there is luck involved in stratego-dave
[
2000-08-11 13:56:00] - The luck in Stratego comes from the fact that there is information which is not revealed to the player at the beginning of the game, which can not be
[
2000-08-11 13:56:00] - I disagree, there is absolutely no luck in stratego...
-Paul
[
2000-08-11 13:55:00] - different games have different amounts, but stratego definitely has its share
-dave
[
2000-08-11 13:55:00] - Why is it no fun to play more then one game of Stratego?
-Paul
[
2000-08-11 13:54:00] - In stratego, the better player should always win unless he makes a mistake
-Paul
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2000-08-11 13:52:00] -
Paul, when you advance and make your very first attack in stratego, there is no way of knowing if you will win or lose!
[
2000-08-11 13:49:00] - Hey! I admit to there being -some- luck in Stratego. But I also insist there is some luck in all games, even chess!
-BpemR
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2000-08-11 13:48:00] - And in stratego, there is luck because there is no way of knowing which side of their board contains the flag... And if both players are competent,
[
2000-08-11 13:48:00] -
Wow, I never thought Stratego would bring about such a heated debate.
-BpemR
[
2000-08-11 13:48:00] - i think stratego has luck involved too.
-dave
[
2000-08-11 13:47:00] - and stratego has tons of strategy and tons of luck involved
~a
[
2000-08-11 13:42:00] - Paul - There IS luck in stratego. I don't know what you're talking about.
- Aaron
[
2000-08-11 13:40:00] - or you were able to see which pieces were where in stratego, then there would be no luck involved
~a
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2000-08-11 13:39:00] - There is
no luck in Diplomacy and Stratego.... Where does the luck come from?
-Paul
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2000-08-11 13:38:00] - in stratego and diplomacy there is a lot of luck (no dice though) in chess, there is none
~a
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2000-08-11 13:37:00] - There's no luck in Stratego and diplomacy. Luck is only really a factor when a dice or cards are used...
-Paul
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2000-08-11 13:36:00] - There is luck in almost any game, but Stratego has far less than most board games.
-BpemR
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2000-08-11 13:35:00] - Stratego has a lot of strategy to it as well as memorization. I don't see how luck factors in....
-Paul
[
2000-08-11 13:18:00] - Stratego is one of the most strategic board games out there.... And frames rule!
-Paul
[
2000-08-11 13:16:00] - Stratego is only two people anyways. And despite the name it does involve significant luck.
- Aaron
[
2000-08-11 13:15:00] - I love Stratego, I also used to be real good, then no one played it with me anymore, so I got bad.
-BpemR
[
2000-08-11 13:14:00] - I can bring stratego if you guys want me to....
-Paul
[
2000-08-11 13:07:00] - Stratego!