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[2000-07-31 21:26:00] - by me. - Xpovos
[2000-07-31 21:26:00] - I severly injured my hand at work today, so my typing will be slowed down some... I.e. you will no longer be forced to view so many new pages written.
[2000-07-31 17:52:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile! -odysseusdt
[2000-07-31 17:44:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile
-Pierceless[2000-07-31 13:57:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile! -Clete29
[2000-07-31 10:42:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile! -p00hbear82
[2000-07-31 10:35:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile! -Toriable3
[2000-07-30 21:40:00] - Heyo! Aaron. - I see two people have commented on my page. More must. All must view it. I demand it. I demand homage! - Xpovos
[2000-07-30 10:57:00] - back in the crypt vanilla ice
[2000-07-30 01:01:00] - my name is vanilla ice. i live in the crypt.
[2000-07-29 13:19:00] - But of the rest of the stuff that I understood, we are in agreement -Paul
[2000-07-29 13:19:00] - I disagree with your assessment on monopolies -Paul
[2000-07-29 01:03:00] - yay! sombody used my button
-adrian[2000-07-28 23:57:00] - View it, I command, thee! --Xpovos
[2000-07-28 23:51:00] - http://www.geocities.com/xpovos/polt.html
[2000-07-28 23:50:00] - Ok, I actually got the political page built. But it's late and I'm not re-editing it, so there's likely a buncha errors.
[2000-07-28 22:01:00] - I'll be out of town for the weekend, but I may have the political page up before I leave... maybe. Xpovos
[2000-07-28 22:00:00] - What's really stupid is that I not only cliked on it, I clicked on it twice. And even then I didn't know what the hell it wasdoing.-Real Xpovos
[2000-07-28 18:37:00] - Napster lives! -Paul
[2000-07-28 17:02:00] - not stupid
[2000-07-28 16:25:00] - 370 or so messages today
[2000-07-28 16:24:00] -
[2000-07-28 16:24:00] - and go to the msgstats link at the bottom to find what other stupid people have clicked on the link
-adrian[2000-07-28 16:21:00] - -Pierce
[2000-07-28 16:20:00] - Please, everyone, don't feel stupid if you click the link in my profile... it's all in good fun.
[2000-07-28 16:17:00] - fuck. i feel stupid.
[2000-07-28 16:16:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile! -mickeyreznor
[2000-07-28 16:08:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile! -Xpovos
[2000-07-28 16:07:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile! -Xpovos
[2000-07-28 16:01:00] - i'm sorry, it seems www.cslab.vt.edu is down . . . use this url to go to this site for now: http://www.tjhsst.edu/~aporter/cgi-bin/msg.cgi
[2000-07-28 15:57:00] - all debators to visit it. -- Xpovos
[2000-07-28 15:57:00] - And this is going nowhere... so I will, for the next few minutes, build a political web page and add it to my site. When it's finished I'll expect
[2000-07-28 15:56:00] - Then the government is not only the most evil thing in the country, it is the source of all that evil.
[2000-07-28 15:56:00] - Let us for a moment assume that money= power; and power corrupts, hence being bad.
[2000-07-28 15:54:00] - But labor unions and the state of possible bussiness corruption are not on discussion when we debate governement.
[2000-07-28 15:53:00] - own accord. 2) Labor Unions can easily become as oppresive as the bussiness had been. Now-a-days for example. And cripple production over petty claim
[2000-07-28 15:52:00] - 1) Labor Unions are a good thing, confronting the overwhelming power of a big bussiness. Government did not create Labor unions, they formed of their
[2000-07-28 15:49:00] - I apologize for not entering the debate, I was off fixing my car... I am back now though. So, here are my political comments.
[2000-07-28 15:48:00] - Let's try now!
[2000-07-28 15:47:00] - we never got 6 posts in a minute
[2000-07-28 15:47:00] - I challenge any Commie Bastard here to a debate! -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:46:00] - bye
[2000-07-28 15:45:00] - Bye -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:44:00] - bye all - aba
[2000-07-28 15:44:00] - you guys are funny - aba
[2000-07-28 15:44:00] - what debate environment?
[2000-07-28 15:42:00] -
That's not a proper response in a debate environment -Paul[2000-07-28 15:41:00] - bite me, paul
[2000-07-28 15:41:00] - Mine shall be the dominant voice of reason on this board
[2000-07-28 15:40:00] - Excellent, no more competition.... -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:39:00] - i am going home at 4 - aba
[2000-07-28 15:38:00] - Well, I think I found the topic for my next essay... -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:38:00] - the color is fixed and the stats link is at the bottom -adrian
[2000-07-28 15:33:00] - I am determined to convert you guys to my cause -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:32:00] - We could start another discusion
-Paul[2000-07-28 15:32:00] - we just strayed so far off topic now, that it doesn't make sense anymore in the original context. - aba
[2000-07-28 15:31:00] - I just keep thinking you'll see where I am coming from...-Paul
[2000-07-28 15:31:00] - don't be
[2000-07-28 15:30:00] - I'm sorry
-Paul[2000-07-28 15:30:00] - Your judgement isn't impaired when you take the drugs/drink the alcohol -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:30:00] - this is getting dumb. we are just telling eachother that the other is wrong over and over again.
[2000-07-28 15:29:00] - yes, but in one case your judgment was severely impaired and int he other it wasn't.
[2000-07-28 15:29:00] - xpovos didn't post it
[2000-07-28 15:28:00] - If you kill someone with a gun, is it the gun's fault? Or is it your fault for pulling the trigger? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:28:00] - I see no difference. You are still directly responsible for what happened -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:27:00] - i agree with you, but i still think it's very different from crashing and killing someone without the alcohol. - aba
[2000-07-28 15:26:00] - Oh.... I still don't get it -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:26:00] - s fault -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:26:00] - Xpovos posted lyrics from a TMBG song which mentioned a racist friend
[2000-07-28 15:25:00] - If I drink and drive and then crash and kill someone, it was my fault.... not the alcohol'
[2000-07-28 15:25:00] - I really don't see why not? People take drugs knowing the side-effects, they should take responsibility for what they do -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:24:00] - this is getting very far from the original topic . . .
[2000-07-28 15:24:00] - Uh oh, you guys are trying to tell me that I talk too much again aren't you?
-Paul[2000-07-28 15:23:00] - i don't think you can talk about it like that without having experience . . . .
[2000-07-28 15:22:00] - yes
[2000-07-28 15:22:00] - I am confused as to who is racist. who is a hypocrite, and who doesn't like politics... -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:22:00] - hey, adrian, can you put a permanent link to the stats on this page? - aba
[2000-07-28 15:21:00] - You in the universal sense of course -paul
[2000-07-28 15:21:00] - So? YOU are the person who decided to take them so don't blame someone else -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:21:00] - -adrian
[2000-07-28 15:21:00] -
[2000-07-28 15:21:00] - i didn't post 822 -adrian
[2000-07-28 15:21:00] - Whose racist friend? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:21:00] - drugs don't always effect you the same way when you take them multiple times . . . .
[2000-07-28 15:21:00] - what's this about drugs?
[2000-07-28 15:20:00] - Why do you feel like a hypocrite? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:20:00] - 823 - 7-28 12:55p - I didn't think socialism could rub off... hmm. - Xpovos
[2000-07-28 15:20:00] - 822 - 7-28 12:55p - . . . . talking to you and your racist friend. (yay for tmbg)
[2000-07-28 15:20:00] - Now if they were given the drugs against their will... that's a different topic -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:20:00] - 821 - 7-28 12:53p - i know politics bore me, but i feel like a hypocrite . . .
[2000-07-28 15:20:00] - what's this about drugs?
[2000-07-28 15:19:00] - No, it's not the drugs. The person decided to take the drugs yes? They are responsible -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:19:00] - You guys should really pay attention to politics -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:19:00] - hehe
[2000-07-28 15:18:00] - no, it's the drugs. paul, trust me on this one. - aba
[2000-07-28 15:18:00] - Who has racists friends and what bores them? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:18:00] - I believe in personal responsibility too -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:18:00] - yay! a supporter for the penguin party! -Pierce
[2000-07-28 15:18:00] - cause they bore me and i have many racist friends
[2000-07-28 15:17:00] - That's not the drugs, that's the person -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:17:00] - in general
[2000-07-28 15:17:00] - and down with spelling -adrian
[2000-07-28 15:17:00] - -adrian
[2000-07-28 15:17:00] - You mean on the message board or in general? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:17:00] - politics
[2000-07-28 15:16:00] - I should've known once it said "Paul == Weird" -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:16:00] - i'm with pierce - down with polotics -adrian
[2000-07-28 15:16:00] - I am neither a republican or a democrat. I belong to the "People for a free Antarctica" party. -Pierce
[2000-07-28 15:16:00] - not directly, but people under the influence of certain drugs can physically harm other people without meaning to. that's not true of the net. - aba
[2000-07-28 15:15:00] - and that wasn't me that typed the gibberish, paul -adrian
[2000-07-28 15:15:00] - I thought you were a commie (democrat) too
-Paul[2000-07-28 15:15:00] - hey paul, why are you not online - PiErCe (caps RULE)
[2000-07-28 15:15:00] - How can drugs hurt people that aren't using them? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:15:00] - no, that was all me - aba
[2000-07-28 15:15:00] - you aren't atacking any beliefs of mine -adrian
[2000-07-28 15:14:00] - Your arguing is most persuasive Adrian, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:14:00] - drugs can hurt people other than those using them. the internet really can't. - aba
[2000-07-28 15:14:00] - There's a lot of stuff on the internet that people might not want to see, better get rid of it -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:13:00] - ziohaojrnguioaerhnobianetbioethnjboathnolaiowernh;aiweronhjbioaer;iobhjakl;sfmhiowr;jnhiplmfnhian;fihojtreyijunbmldfnbfldj
[2000-07-28 15:13:00] - After all, if they regulate drugs, why not the internet? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:13:00] - How about this then, government should protect people by censoring things they deem inappropriate -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:12:00] - "paul == weird" evaluates to true
[2000-07-28 15:12:00] - quiero comida
[2000-07-28 15:12:00] - How so? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:11:00] - And how does freedom benefit a few? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:11:00] - from other people. - aba
[2000-07-28 15:11:00] - Why does the government need to protect people, and from what? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:10:00] - Come on Adrian, I'm attacking your beliefs here, argue against me -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:10:00] - it still only benefits a few. you need a govt capable of protecting almost everybody. - aba
[2000-07-28 15:10:00] - Except those people who require the government to ack like a parent for them -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:09:00] - My kind of freedom benefits everyone! -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:09:00] - No, pure freedom means freedom to kill and stuff -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:09:00] - I believe in a smaller government, how about that? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:09:00] - evidently you do, but pure freedom only benefits a few people.
- aba[2000-07-28 15:09:00] - I take back my statement. I don't believe in pure freedom -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:08:00] - And if you think that pure freedom is bad, well then I agree
-Paul[2000-07-28 15:08:00] - I believe in freedom. Pure freedom -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:07:00] - i think that is the fundamental difference. you think mostly govt should inform, and i think they should regulate (economically that is) - aba
[2000-07-28 15:06:00] - no i can't . . . i am dumb
[2000-07-28 15:06:00] - You can argue with us Adrian.... -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:06:00] - Is that Pierce? Pierce! Are you a freedom-loving man or a commie bastard like the rest of these democrats? -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:06:00] - i'm changing the fucking color, give me a break
[2000-07-28 15:05:00] - http://www.tjhsst.edu/~aporter/cgi-bin/msgstats.cgi
[2000-07-28 15:05:00] - fuck you guys are posting a lot . . . i wish i had some ability to argue on the current subject but alass -adrian
[2000-07-28 15:05:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile! -stolenbyme
[2000-07-28 15:05:00] - They overstep their bounds, they should inform, not regulate -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:04:00] - i want to go home, what's your point?
- aba[2000-07-28 15:04:00] - I want goobers.
[2000-07-28 15:03:00] - why do you say that? - aba
[2000-07-28 15:02:00] - Exactly, the FDA has too much power -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:02:00] - no, they don't suck, they just don't have as much power as a group such as the fda - aba
[2000-07-28 15:02:00] - yes, but the fda has consumers backing it too. they pack a much larger punch than any consumer group. - aba
[2000-07-28 15:01:00] - and if you think consumer groups suck, you are hopeless -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:00:00] - It's not a tumor, not a tumor, at all.
[2000-07-28 15:00:00] - And the consumer groups have consumers backing them which make them a force to be rockoned with -Paul
[2000-07-28 15:00:00] - It could be a tumor.
[2000-07-28 15:00:00] - no, no headaches - aba
[2000-07-28 14:59:00] - the fda has legal action backing them which makes them a much greater force to be reckoned with - aba
[2000-07-28 14:59:00] - does anyone else get headaches from reading this board because the background is so dark?
[2000-07-28 14:59:00] - whoops, that was about consumer groups - aba
[2000-07-28 14:59:00] - yes, they suck, what's your point? - aba
[2000-07-28 14:59:00] - What makes the FDA so much better then the consumer groups? -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:58:00] - I'm telling you, consumer groups.... -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:58:00] - except, nobody would be told that it had stray dogs in it. i think it would be much easier to decieve the public that way. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:57:00] - The FDA is one agency I can easily tolerate -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:57:00] - Although I will grant you this, I don't think the FDA is a bad organization.... just a little overzealous sometimes -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:56:00] - But that is what you don't buy the "Canned Stray Dog Spam" -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:56:00] - I don't think there would be that much of a difference. Sure the lower quality stuff would have more problems -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:55:00] - And then they would boycott the company. Bad for business -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:55:00] - it happens every now and again, but think abotu how much more often it would happen without the fda - aba
[2000-07-28 14:54:00] - If a company refused to let a consumer group inspect it, the consumers would hear about it -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:53:00] - Hell, if the FDA is great, why does ecoli pop up all the time? -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:53:00] - but no company is required to have a consumer group inspect it. plus there would be no standardization in approval procedures. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:53:00] - If there were no FDA, consumer groups would pick up the slack... -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:52:00] - *know - aba
[2000-07-28 14:52:00] - Ok.... I don't see how that changes things -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:52:00] - a few people might no, but not the consuming public. and the health dept looks for such things in its inspections. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:51:00] - Wouldn't people notice that every once and a while someone disappears near the meat grinder? -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:51:00] - ok, fine, not people, they put stray dogs in there. it was just an example to counter your example. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:50:00] - First of all, how would nobody know? Second of all, business regulation wouldn't have caught this most likely -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:50:00] - Besides, if people were being put into meat, it shows a lack of law enforcement, not business regulation -Paul
[2000-07-28 14:49:00] - what if nobody knows? that's why we have the govt regularly check such things now. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:49:00] - CAPS rule! -The Paul
[2000-07-28 14:49:00] - it was a majority
[2000-07-28 14:49:00] - I don't think people would buy canned meat from the plant that puts people in it -paul
[2000-07-28 14:48:00] - sorry
[2000-07-28 14:48:00] - boo caps.
- aba[2000-07-28 14:48:00] - go paul!
[2000-07-28 14:48:00] - hehe! paul has been using decapitalization!
[2000-07-28 14:48:00] - pierce and had he been here, dave (would) have voted for capitalization - changing this now -the adrian
[2000-07-28 14:46:00] - and dominates the market. becomes a monopoly. choice is taken away. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:46:00] -
[2000-07-28 14:45:00] - if you have 2 meat packing plants. one has people ending up in the cans every now and again. it is much cheaper because it cuts corners. it grows
[2000-07-28 14:45:00] - Soylent SPAM is people! -Pierce
[2000-07-28 14:45:00] - a slight difference -paul
[2000-07-28 14:45:00] - but that isn't business regulation, that's murder investigation -paul
[2000-07-28 14:45:00] - this is a practice government should outlaw
-paul[2000-07-28 14:44:00] - I agree with you that we should not place people in canned meat -paul
[2000-07-28 14:43:00] - it indicates a disturbingly weak labor union though -paul
[2000-07-28 14:43:00] - people ending up in the canned meat has nothing to do with monopolies... -paul
[2000-07-28 14:42:00] - let's look at history here then. way back in the early 1900s, govt didn't regulate business. you know what? people ended up in the canned meat. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:40:00] - examples, shmexamples. we are talking theory of govt here. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:39:00] - either that or you take my word for it -paul
[2000-07-28 14:39:00] - i apologize, but i need examples to back up my point -paul
[2000-07-28 14:39:00] - it hadn't gotten too abusive yet, but they had outrageous prices for their chips and weren't terribly interested in pushing technology forward -paul
[2000-07-28 14:38:00] - we are beginning to rehash the same examples
- aba[2000-07-28 14:37:00] - how is intel abusive? ap
[2000-07-28 14:36:00] - there was no government interference there.... -paul
[2000-07-28 14:36:00] - once again, I offer the intel and amd situation as evidence -paul
[2000-07-28 14:35:00] - and since the people hate the original company, they are going to flock to the new one -paul
[2000-07-28 14:35:00] - But if the company gets too abusive, competitors will emerge -paul
[2000-07-28 14:31:00] - has no large competitors, it can basically do what it wants with its product. that is the problem with pure capitalism. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:31:00] - ok. let's forget ms and return to our original topic - govt. pure capitalism doesn't account for cruelty. once a company grows to a size where it
[2000-07-28 14:31:00] - microsoft programs aren't that bad, you guys just have this paranoia of them.. -paul
[2000-07-28 14:30:00] - And just saying pure anything is wrong doesn't prove anything -paul
[2000-07-28 14:29:00] - it depends on what we are talking about here.... OS? -paul
[2000-07-28 14:29:00] - and I think it hurts anyone who uses microsoft products -paul
[2000-07-28 14:29:00] - like what? the choice was ms or apple. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:28:00] - If microsoft's programs were that bad, why didn't people use something else? -paul
[2000-07-28 14:28:00] - paul, there's something wrong with pure anything when we're talking about organizing groups of people. nothing is ever completely pure. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:27:00] - And why isn't it protecting my rights as a consumer? I want a product (Titan AE) which is unavailible, make it availible government! -paul
[2000-07-28 14:27:00] - breaking up ms helps everybody get a better product. ms had started to have incestuous programs. who is it hurting? - aba
[2000-07-28 14:26:00] - What is wrong with pure capitalsim? -paul
[2000-07-28 14:25:00] - how is breaking up microsoft helping some and not hurting any? -paul
[2000-07-28 14:25:00] - murder is wrong, creating a product is not -paul
[2000-07-28 14:25:00] - funny adrian.
- aba[2000-07-28 14:24:00] - that is cool
[2000-07-28 14:24:00] - hehe
[2000-07-28 14:24:00] - I clicked on the link in Pierce's profile! -abnormalporter
[2000-07-28 14:22:00] - paul, that's not protecting your rights as a consumer. the govt does its work to the point where they are helping some and not hurting any. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:21:00] - yes, but our govt is not based on capitalism and nor should it be. pure capitalism has its faults as does pure communism and pure democracy. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:20:00] - So if I really liked Titan AE and I wanted it to be showed 24-7 for the entire year, should the government require all theaters to do that? <i>-paul</
[2000-07-28 14:20:00] - s different. (damn enter button) - aba
[2000-07-28 14:20:00] - no, not taking sides, but protecting. it'
[2000-07-28 14:20:00] - capitalism is all about supply and demand -paul
[2000-07-28 14:19:00] - because they were the majority? no - aba
[2000-07-28 14:19:00] - the minority is just as important a part of the population as the majority. if all the whites decided to kill all the indians, would that be ok
[2000-07-28 14:19:00] - why should the government side with one business against another? -paul
[2000-07-28 14:19:00] - i don't think the government should take sides in business -paul
[2000-07-28 14:18:00] - Ah... this is where we disagree I think -paul
[2000-07-28 14:14:00] - yes, and i am saying that the govt has to protect the right of the minority to choose - aba
[2000-07-28 14:14:00] - not necessarily, but if the masses want to use Office, then so be it -paul
[2000-07-28 14:13:00] - mooooooo
[2000-07-28 14:12:00] - and because they are the choice of the masses, they are better -adrian
[2000-07-28 14:12:00] - whether it's because they work better or are easier to use -paul
[2000-07-28 14:11:00] - ok, what i meant to say was that they were the choice of the masses -paul
[2000-07-28 14:10:00] - no. just because they are user friendly doesn't mean they work better. - aba
[2000-07-28 14:10:00] - because for the most part, the ms products do work better -paul
[2000-07-28 14:09:00] - it all depends on how oppressive the monopoly is.... the worse the monopoly, the better the chance of the challenger -paul
[2000-07-28 14:09:00] - still many of the products that are made to compete with ms fail time and time again -adrian
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