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[2013-02-20 10:59:42] - mig: That's a relief. -Paul

[2013-02-20 10:58:32] - I don't know if anyone else has been following this biogenesis PED nonsense as it relates to the nationals, but it looks like Gio Gonzalez is in the clear according to this. - mig

[2013-02-20 10:18:31] - a: Are you planning Ultimate this weekend? -Paul

[2013-02-19 17:55:32] - http://youtu.be/JZMroQOtS_U ragtime pianist sight-reads super mario world music - aaron

[2013-02-19 14:36:10] - amy:  i've seen community sites I vist ask for volunteer coders from time to time, but finding freelance work that pays is hard to find. - mig

[2013-02-19 14:28:43] - amy:  for #3, I usually check back at this link every year or so.  ~a

[2013-02-19 14:27:21] - in my small experience doing freelance work, it isn't easy and it is easy to get under-paid.  you should try to make a contract that is costed out per-hour that way when the new requirements keep flowing, so does the money.  you might also want a lawyer to look over your contract, but that might not be feasible from a profit standpoint.  ~a

[2013-02-19 14:25:40] - thanks, a. the 3rd thing I am trying to find out is how to figure out what technologies are relevant in the industry right now. -amy

[2013-02-19 14:24:53] - i don't think any of us are qualified to answer either of those questions.  this search has some interesting anecdotes.  i know there are more interesting anecdotes on slashdot if you search around some more.  ~a

[2013-02-19 14:12:13] - 1. making oneself presentable to potential clients, after being inactive in the industry for about 6 years and 2. how to go about finding freelance work? much appreciated. -amy

[2013-02-19 14:11:48] - I would like to get back into software by doing contracting/freelancing. I will be spending some time on projects to get my skills back, particularly in web development. I would like to be developing web applications, but would also be open to other areas of software, because I don't want to narrow down options too much. Does anybody have any thoughts on -amy

[2013-02-19 13:32:41] - Lenstra–Pomerance–Wagstaff conjecture.  not proven, but math people are guessing that it's infinite.  ~a

[2013-02-19 13:20:31] - a: I think the set of all mersenne numbers is not aleph-naught. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-19 13:04:44] - yeah, that is weird:  aleph-naught / aleph-naught = 0?  that doesn't seem right.  maybe my understanding of this is incorrect.  ~a

[2013-02-19 12:55:55] - s/prime/numbers -- Xpovos

[2013-02-19 12:55:35] - a: And yet, there is not a finite number of mersenne numbers.  Gotta love math. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-19 12:27:52] - . . . at least the smallish mersenne numbers.  if you look at all infinity of them, 0% of mersenne numbers are prime.  ~a

[2013-02-19 12:12:14] - about .00008% or .00009% of mersenne numbers are prime.  ~a

[2013-02-19 11:05:26] - mig: I guess it's about time for me to hang up the D3 spurs for a while and crack open SC2 for a bit. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-19 10:48:33] - xpovos: you didn't let me finish! there's more 1s - aaron

[2013-02-19 10:30:16] - http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/18te6l/starcraft_ii_wings_of_liberty_patch_204_formatted/ starcraft 2 pre-hots patch is out if anyone wants to check out the new UI. - mig

[2013-02-19 10:28:43] - aaron: :-D  Probably not a prime number, though.  Depends. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-19 10:15:02] - hmm  my comment got cut off. i'll send you an e-mail, it's a big number - aaron

[2013-02-19 10:14:16] - xpovos: pshhh, that's easy, i can come up with a bigger mersenne prime. ok here goes: in base 2, it's 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111... - aaron

[2013-02-19 10:08:48] - http://www.mersenne.org/  January 25th: a new prime. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-19 09:12:36] - http://i.imgur.com/basBCwn.jpg leia - aaron

[2013-02-16 09:10:04] - This looks awesome. https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/08/new-firefox-command-line-helps-you-develop-faster/  How long until it comes to Chrome? -- Xpovos

[2013-02-15 18:05:55] - xpovos: *spock voice* fascinating. - mig

[2013-02-15 13:17:55] - Emergent game stories. http://aliceandkev.wordpress.com/ -- Xpovos

[2013-02-15 10:11:53] - http://doctorcatmd.com/2011-05-20/lawyer-cat-has-a-problem -- Xpovos

[2013-02-14 20:48:43] - a:  normal users get enough steam sales I'm not going to be too broken up about it. - mig

[2013-02-14 16:19:09] - crazy super awesome steam sale.  also, you guys aren't invited.  ~a

[2013-02-14 13:37:32] - would  a potential ruling consider that? - mig

[2013-02-14 13:37:23] - Actually, some MMOs that don't have subscriptions could be put in weird cases.  Guild Wars 2 and The Secret World, for example, don't have subscriptions but do require you to purchase the game client from somewhere so you can get an activation key.  But what you are really buying is access to their servers, not really the client.  So where does that fit in, and ...

[2013-02-14 13:26:44] - a:  the litigation specifically cites steam, but if the ruling is favorable to the plantiffs I don't see how it doesn't get applied to any other digital games store outlet that also prevents game resale (which is pretty much all of them except GOG). - mig

[2013-02-14 13:23:03] - how so?  ~a

[2013-02-14 13:20:58] - a:  most, but not all.  but also keep in mind that a ruling has the potential to apply to all digital purchases not just the ones on steam. - mig

[2013-02-14 13:19:53] - steam's argument is, you can't resell games, because we don't want you to be able to.  which is fine, except that's not a new argument.  and that's why we have the first-sale docterine:  because that argument is lame.  ~a

[2013-02-14 13:18:21] - mig:  well wait, the original article wasn't about a subscription based mmo.  it was about games on steam.  most games (all games?) on steam are subscription free, right?  ~a

[2013-02-14 13:17:31] - mig: Blizzard's requirement to link a purchased copy of Diablo 3 to a Battlenet account is definitely in the scopes of the argument.  It makes it impossible to resell your purchased client to another consumer. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-14 13:11:34] - xpovos:  i guess they are seperate questions in the scope of the court now, but I can very easily see the court making a broad ruling that could very well effect MMOs or games that are practically exclusively played online like Diablo 3. - mig

[2013-02-14 13:07:44] - a:  first sale doctrine though gets tricky now when you're talking about non-tangible non-physical entities.  A subscription based MMO can't really have a first sale doctrine because you are paying for access to a service, rather than  a physical disc. - mig

[2013-02-14 12:20:27] - a: I assumed, I misread it at first, but figured the meaning, and I'm inclined to agree. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-14 12:20:00] - But even if they're streamlined, i see it as two transactions. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-14 12:19:54] - The second question is independent.  Can I sell my Diablo characters, or entire account to another?  I.e. who owns the digital bits that are my dudes and dudettes and their gear.  Normally I'd want to sell it to someone who already has a client, but if they don't, selling my client also is the first question again.  -- Xpovos

[2013-02-14 12:18:31] - haha, i meant to say:  the first-sale doctrine is awesome and anything that ignores that is lame.  my post seemed to state the opposite.  ~a

[2013-02-14 12:17:21] - A subscription-based game solves itself in the marketplace, the used client is worth proportionately less than a new one if the new one also comes with paid time to the subscription.  The courts can't (or at least shouldn't) force the resold copy to also come with a month of paid time from the IP-holder.  That's crazy-town. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-14 12:17:04] - the first-sale doctrine and anything that ignores that is lame.  ~a

[2013-02-14 12:16:15] - mig: I think that's a second question outside the scope of the one being examined by the court.  The way I interpret the court case is that it's about game IP holders vs. consumers on the right to resell the license of the game, so just the client.  For some games that's synonymous with the whole game, others, as you note, it's not.  -- Xpovos

[2013-02-14 12:12:23] - actually any progression based game with accounts tied to them could have very far reaching consequences.  Could this mean you could sell your WoW or Diablo account to anyone you want for any amount of money you want?  To everyone or only to germans? - mig

[2013-02-14 12:07:40] - I guess I'm ambivalent though, since I'm very anti-IP, though I'm OK in general with companies using whatever schemes they want, as long as I can crack or bypass them if I find them annoying without legal reprucussions. - mig

[2013-02-14 12:01:19] - what DLC, does that transfer over or not? - mig

[2013-02-14 11:58:26] - xpovos:  I suppose that will be interesting.  How would that work with something like a subscription game?  You can re-sell an MMO client to somebody else, but that won't give them the free month you did.  What about games that have an activation process outside of steam? - mig

[2013-02-14 11:55:34] - xpovos:  damn socialists.  ~a

[2013-02-14 11:44:50] - I know I'm behind... but we can always count on the German IP courts to get involved in a debate over ownership vs. perpetual licenses. http://games.slashdot.org/story/13/02/01/0235251/valve-sued-in-germany-over-game-ownership -- Xpovos

[2013-02-14 09:47:05] - http://reason.com/assets/mc/ekrayewski/2013_02/carneyamash.jpg i like this justin amash fellow. - mig

[2013-02-13 15:58:31] - mig: I guess if you tape it after and delay the rebuttal by another half hour or so, then you threaten losing more people who might otherwise watch it... -Paul

[2013-02-13 15:28:45] - paul:  I guess it's because you can't really call it a "rebuttal" if you tape it well before the actual speech. - mig

[2013-02-13 15:17:58] - my only exposure to the SOTU was this compilation of dry mouth noises made by marco rubio posted to reddit earlier today... the internet is a weird place - aaron

[2013-02-13 14:54:30] - a: Pretty sure it was live. Not sure why it has to be (or why he couldn't have drank something beforehand). -Paul

[2013-02-13 14:09:22] - But they might as well just tape it, because it's not like their rebutting the actual speech but just whatever bits and themes that are revealed beforehand.  I would prefer they wait a day or 2 and actually respond to things the actual details in the prez's speech. - mig

[2013-02-13 14:08:32] - a:  yeah I find it odd they don't just tape a response and then broadcast it.  Maybe the processing/editing would take too long?  - mig

[2013-02-13 13:53:49] - paul:  was it live?  why couldn't they do another take where he wasn't sweating?  ~a

[2013-02-13 13:02:31] - the whole gun control thing threw me for a bit of confusion?  what exactly a "weapon of war"?  With that terminology would think first of something like machine guns or grenades, which are already pretty much illegal for civilian use. - mig

[2013-02-13 12:40:41] - mig: Aw, you missed his wiping away of sweat and reach for the water bottle... :-) -Paul

[2013-02-13 11:33:17] - paul:  i didn't bother paying attention to Rubio's response, and looks like I was right to do so.  I agree, Rand's response was very strong and well presented, and it's a shame it's not getting much attention. - mig

[2013-02-13 11:23:02] - mig: Honestly, I mostly missed the SOTU. I managed to catch Rubio's response, which I wasn't too impressed with. A little disappointed that nobody seemed to show Rand Paul's speech. -Paul

[2013-02-13 11:03:14] - so, that SOTU?  thoughts?  I read through the transcript and it seemed like pretty much the same speech he's given the last 3 years, aside from some new nuggets sprinkled in. - mig

[2013-02-11 12:31:12] - mig: I'm stumped.  It's essentially unprecedented, so I can't rely on what I know.  Probably both.  As Benedict when referring to anything he did (past tense) and as Ratzinger should he do anything notable post-pontificate.  The real question will be how he signs his next manuscript, assuming he finishes another book, which seems likely. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-11 12:19:24] - xpovos:  once the pope resigns, will he still be referred to as Benedict XVI or by his birth name? - mig

[2013-02-11 11:47:50] - aaron: It did say "others on request".  I suspect the oddsmaker could give much better odds than 1000:1 and be safe.  Though at the moment it looks like he's crept up to 80:1.  Which can only mean that people are actually putting their money on him, which is absurd.  C'est la vie. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-11 11:39:52] - xpovos: 1000:1 for bono? - aaron

[2013-02-11 11:29:26] - a: At least score is a round number.  I still can't remember how many pounds are in a stone.  Google knows, though, so I guess I don't have to. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-11 11:23:54] - xpovos:  nice, google's calculator turns itself on if you search for "3 score and ten"  ~a

[2013-02-11 11:19:17] - Paul: Well, odds are bound to change.  The ones I'm quoting came from this earlier this morning. http://t.co/AgT9QEvO -- Xpovos

[2013-02-11 11:13:28] - Xpovos: Ah, the article I read said that Turkson was 5/2. They didn't give the odds for Ouellet, but indicated he was another front-runner (can there be only one front-runner?). -Paul

[2013-02-11 11:08:44] - Paul: Oddsmakers have him at 5/2.  Turkson is 7/2.  Oddsmakers are on crack.  They also have Dolan at 33/1.  I think DiNardo gets it before Dolan, and he's nowhere on the oddsmaker's charts.  My other 'top' candidates: Cleemis, Sepe, Antonelli. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-11 10:57:52] - Xpovos: Oh, sure. Go with the favorite. My money is on Marc Ouellet (and no, I have no idea whatsoever, I'm just pulling names from an article I found :-P) -Paul

[2013-02-11 10:53:20] - mig: That's one reason I'm handicapping the youngest cardinals higher.  Between Benedicts resignation, particularly his verbiage, and JP2's decline, they'll want a strong and vibrant candidate.  My front runner right now is Peter Cardinal Turkson. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-11 10:51:58] - mig: There's definitely a point to be made that positions held until death work very differently with modern medicine capable of extending life so far beyond the "3 score and ten".  He might live another 10-15 years thanks to medicine and new developments, but it's clearly wearing at a higher level.  JP2 was a good example, yes. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-11 10:41:41] - xpovos:  a wsj article said one theory is that what happened with John Paull II, where he was basically paraded around publicly by the church despite the very obvious decline of his health, might have been factor in his decision. - mig

[2013-02-11 08:48:05] - a: Even then, Gregory XII's resignation was a complicated political deal.  This is almost unprecedented.  I can't speculate on Alzheimer's, but it would be a shock, given his writings.  His brain is still as good as ever, at least up until quite recently. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-11 08:41:58] - 600 years since the last one?  that is unusual.  does he have alzheimer's disease maybe?  ~a

[2013-02-11 08:32:28] - So... wow.  Benedict XVI will resign effective February 28th.  Assuming he doesn't pass in the interim, of course.  This is pretty unusual. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-09 09:55:42] - http://youtu.be/c5FlSsvklJA athletic meet of the jumping cat - aaron

[2013-02-08 16:39:24] - http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/calvin-hobbes-lovingly-inserted-into-13-real-world-backgroun -- Xpovos

[2013-02-08 13:39:31] - mig: I think they would've gotten that one.  Procedurals are hard not to call.  Calling offensive holding on the "last" play is the kind of thing they're trained not to do.  To draw a flag in the play itself, the foul would have had to be extremely overt... such as a major procedural like 13 men lined up to hold. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-08 13:24:35] - and I would be even more mystified at the officials not throwing the flag if there was more than 11 players on the field. - mig

[2013-02-08 13:17:10] - xpovos:  usually that's done by defenders.  I'd have to watch the play again but I don't think anyone mentioned that there was more than 11 players on the field. - mig

[2013-02-08 13:16:30] - mig: Originally intended for defense, but it probably works better in this particular situation: http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/buddy-ryans-polish-goalline-formation-is-a-thing-of-beauty/ -- Xpovos

[2013-02-08 13:15:35] - mig: I haven't rewatched the play, but did they send out an extra blocker or two (12 or 13 men on the field)?  I mean, if you're going to commit a penalty, why not?  Take the extra, it doesn't matter.  I recall reading about that somewhere in similar situations, and they very un-P.C. called it the Polish Formation. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-08 13:07:57] - mig: I know it's not quite the same, but it seems similar to intentionally fouling at the end of basketball games or even what the Ravens had just done the play before (have everybody commit holding while the punter hides in the corner until the last second to take a safety). -Paul

[2013-02-08 13:06:37] - There's a slight chance they might not award a touchdown, so why not? - mig

[2013-02-08 13:05:38] - paul:  i mean, if you didn't care about reputation or possible suspensions.  Why not just tackle him if he's about to break it and go for the score.  What do you have to lose? - mig

[2013-02-08 13:02:50] - mig: I can't decide if it's brilliant or insane or both. -Paul

[2013-02-08 12:57:42] - paul:    yeah. i did.  that was kind of weird. - mig

[2013-02-08 12:55:59] - mig: http://www.businessinsider.com/super-bowl-flacco-teammates-ginn-2013-2 Did you hear about what Flacco was planning on doing at the end of the Super Bowl? -Paul

[2013-02-08 11:31:34] - a: Unfortunately, there's a couple of hundred feet.  My office is depressing to look at. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-08 08:52:30] - a:  i suppose so. - mig

[2013-02-07 20:27:52] - mig:  virginia is going to be a little less red on the state map?  ~a

[2013-02-07 20:24:40] - xpovos:  ahh, love it.  your feet of paperwork created is negative.  you win at golf.  ~a

[2013-02-07 16:11:09] - http://hamptonroads.com/2013/02/cuccinelli-ok-legalized-pot-not-public-pools Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, republican candidate for governor says his views on marijuana legalization are "evolving". - mig

[2013-02-07 16:02:15] - a: In a sense, actually, I am.  Several of the projects are digitization based, so, e.g. one task is to verify the document was properly digitized, and if so destroy the paper original.  If not it goes back for proper scanning.  It's pretty fast to go through feet of paperwork that way.  And the end result is reduced storage requirements. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-07 15:40:12] - xpovos:  measuring nothing is more beneficial than measuring something that hurts the company.  unless feet of paperwork is like golf and youre trying to get a lower number.  which im guessing isnt the case?  ~a

[2013-02-07 15:29:20] - FEET OF PAPERWORK?? That is insane, hence the capitalization. There is no one way for me to measure my progress... Because I am multitasking by overseeing a bunch of projects and potential projects through the contracting phases.... ~g

[2013-02-07 14:38:21] - How do you guys measure progress at work?  I'm on a set of projects right now where I'm measuring my progress in feet of paperwork processed per day.  It's not particularly elegant, but it does give a very robust feeling of progress. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-07 12:21:24] - ah gotcha.  ~a

[2013-02-07 12:21:14] - 1.6 is the newest java?  ~a

[2013-02-07 12:19:55] - sorry, they were all running java 1.6.0_31 -- not the newest - aaron

[2013-02-07 12:19:23] - a: i've tried it on 3 different machines, but all were running the newest java - aaron

[2013-02-07 12:14:14] - aaron:  have you tried this with more than one version of java and on more than one machine?  things seem to behave normally for me on openjdk 1.7.0_09 (64 bit) and openjdk 1.6.0_24 (64 bit).  ~a

[2013-02-07 11:59:17] - aaron:  it seems to work fine in 1.7.0_11 - mig

[2013-02-07 11:42:35] - xpovos: okay those animals creeped me out. ~g

[2013-02-07 11:30:41] - I was just looking at the platypus earlier its pretty insane... a mix of duck, beaver, otter in appearance with reptile like eggs. It nurses its babies without any teats the milk just comes out of the skin... The right ovary doesnt work on it, and the guy is venomous... its trippy! ~g

[2013-02-07 11:22:24] - xpovos: daaaamn that's a crazy ass bird - aaron

[2013-02-07 11:18:58] - daniel: that's good! which JDK are you using? i'm on JDK 1.6.0_31 - aaron

[2013-02-07 11:17:48] - aaron: Tried your code and it made it to 10k then exited on my computer.  -Daniel

[2013-02-07 10:35:09] - Hee: http://wtfevolution.tumblr.com/ -- Xpovos

[2013-02-07 09:53:48] - aaron:  well to my knowledge the Wii U doesn't have anything like that for it's disc-based games. I know there's some heavy handed copyright nonsense with stuff you buy for the WiiWare console, though. - mig

[2013-02-07 09:25:31] - basically you have a program which is supposed to loop from 10-10000 and then exit... but instead, it loops from 10 to 1383, then decides to set the variable back to 1... and it keeps setting this variable every couple iterations so that, if you don't have the "throw" in there, it actually becomes an infinite loop - aaron

[2013-02-07 09:20:21] - int maxA = 10; for (int a = 10;; a++) for (int b = 0; b < a; b++) { maxA = Math.max(a, maxA); if (a < 10) throw new RuntimeException("a=" + a + ", was " + maxA); if (a > 10000) { System.exit(0); } } - aaron

[2013-02-07 09:18:43] - i discovered some super crazy bug in java today, where it randomly resets loop variables to 0... i've reported it to oracle but haven't heard back - aaron

[2013-02-07 08:52:36] - mig: wow! something like this could really swing the console war one way or the other, if all three companies don't use the exact same activation system - aaron

[2013-02-06 16:31:16] - http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/02/report-next-xbox-will-use-persistent-net-connection-to-block-used-games/ MS's next XBox reportadly will use online activation for all it's games. - mig

[2013-02-06 14:16:42] - I think our tentative plan is to sell it to Carmax (we already have an offer from them) and either buy a 2011/2012 Sonata from them or look at ones at the local dealerships. -Paul

[2013-02-06 14:15:52] - Anybody here have experience buying a used car and have any advice to give? We're thinking of trading in/selling Gurkie's car for (likely) a used mid-size sedan. -Paul

[2013-02-05 15:53:46] - Aaron: Yeah, it's kinda strange. I wonder if the Ravens just dropped the ball or what...? -Paul

[2013-02-05 15:16:04] - paul: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/2/3/3949108/super-bowl-prop-bets-2013-gatorade-color it turns out there was no gatorade dump at super bowl 47! hmph - aaron

[2013-02-05 14:59:09] - mig: i'm pretty sure the only joke is that it's four guys named bill, and they defeated a pack of jaguars... - aaron

[2013-02-05 14:58:43] - mig: i still don't get it, what's the "movie the drawing is supposed to tie into"? and when you say that they're from buffalo, what do you mean? do you think bill cosby grew up in Buffalo? - aaron

[2013-02-05 13:52:18] - or were female I should say. - mig

[2013-02-05 13:52:05] - a bunch of guys named bill, who are from buffalo, who are wearing jaguar skin.  Wonder if the jaguars are female? - mig

[2013-02-05 13:44:09] - I thought it was just a bunch of guys named Bill - thus making "The Bills"  -Daniel

[2013-02-05 12:31:49] - aaron: I suspect it has something to do with how they are posed. Maybe there is a movie with a poster or famous scene which has four people posed like that? Maybe it's called The [Blanks}? -Paul

[2013-02-05 12:30:22] - mig:hmm i guess i don't "get it" either. it's supposed to tie into a specific movie? it's not just a bunch of guys named bill? - aaron

[2013-02-05 11:54:15] - paul:  just repeat the team name a few times and look at the guys again.  Although if you haven't seen the movie then you may not get it. - mig

[2013-02-05 11:52:13] - mig: Oh, I had no idea it's supposed to tie into a movie. I guess I don't get it, then. -Paul

[2013-02-05 11:49:31] - paul:  I believe it's supposed to be Bill Murray.  When I said I got it, I meant the movie the drawing is supposed to tie into. - mig

[2013-02-05 11:45:30] - mig: I can't figure out who is supposed to be sitting in the chair, but I got the rest of them. -Paul

[2013-02-05 11:27:19] - http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/pixar-nfl-movie-needs-happen-pronto-134951784--nfl.html really neat drawings by a Pixar artist.  The Bills/Jaguars one ended up being really funny once I got it. - mig

[2013-02-05 11:17:39] - I think my favorite ads were car-based this year.  I tend to hate Audi ads, so the stag-prom Audi one really did a lot given history.  And the Mercedes Benz soul-selling ad had some very nice touches. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-05 10:56:37] - ad* sigh... ~g

[2013-02-05 10:56:09] - I heard that the guy in the go-daddy add said that she tasted like paradise and they did somewhere between 45-60 takes... ~g

[2013-02-05 10:00:15] - Aaron: Oh! Thanks for the reminder. I also thought the Gangnam Style one was cute. :-) -Paul

[2013-02-05 09:43:55] - yeah, least favorite was the go-daddy, although the gangnam style one was horribly done too. the commercial was tacky, and the parody was so lazy... the kind of thing that wouldn't even earn a courtesy chuckle from a 7-year-old  - aaron

[2013-02-05 09:06:11] - mig: Unfortunately, I missed most of the commercials (including the goat). I liked what I saw of the Iron Man 3 and Star Trek movie commercials, though. -Paul

[2013-02-05 00:59:34] - favorite:  the go-daddy makeout ad.  ~a

[2013-02-04 18:34:56] - best/worst ads from yesterday.  My favorite was the doritos goat.  Least favorite was the go-daddy makeout ad (yuck). - mig

[2013-02-04 13:31:36] - daniel:  don't doubt it.  there is no downside.  The result of any hold in the endzone they would rule it as a safety anyways, and I don't think they would have gotten the time back.  I was surprised there were no flags thrown on that play, though, even if it functionally didn't matter. - mig

[2013-02-04 13:09:38] - -Daniel

[2013-02-04 13:09:33] - ravens*

[2013-02-04 13:09:17] - mig:  Barnwell theorizes that Raves had everyone hold on purpose during the safety because there is no downside (along with other thoughts):  http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8912868/bill-barnwell-puts-ravens-win-perspective

[2013-02-03 12:24:53] - men will soon live longer than women for the first time  ~a

[2013-02-02 11:49:21] - a: Women live longer than men, on average... right? -- Xpovos

[2013-02-01 23:37:07] - audrey said that hillary might not enter the primary because she's old.  when 16 rolls around she'll be as old as mccain was when he ran.  ~a

[2013-02-01 21:20:53] - mig: I will put $100 on Hillary not ever entering a primary, but that would have to be well defined, because she might get write-in votes, and I don't entirely discount the possibility that she might form an "exploratory committee" or somesuch bullshit. -- Xpovos

[2013-02-01 14:38:44] - xpovos:  are you sure hilary isn't running in 2016?  most of the political punditry still seems convinced she'll give it a go. - mig

[2013-02-01 13:47:41] - yeah she should have been fired.  if she had completely removed the signature block it would have been less clear.  ~a

[2013-02-01 13:37:15] - Actually, the more I think about it, the more I am sympathetic to her since it seems like such an innocent thing to do if you don't think about it. However, I still don't blame Applebees for what they did. It's basically a bad situation for both. -Paul

[2013-02-01 13:34:43] - Also, it's not like this is the first time someone has been fired for doing something like this.  I'm pretty sure every restuarant makes it clear what she did was a very big no-no. - mig

[2013-02-01 13:28:00] - a: Ok. I guess I agree that she deserves sympathy for the pastor being an asshole, but I don't know if she deserves much sympathy for getting fired after posting the receipt online. Sure, it probably seems like an honest mistake, but it has to be something Applebees takes seriously. -Paul

[2013-02-01 13:25:44] - ok.  i guess i'm saying she deserves sympathy because the pastor was an asshole.  ~a

[2013-02-01 13:16:05] - a: Regardless of the "god" comment? I don't think people are saying she shouldn't get sympathy because of the "god" comment.... -Paul

[2013-02-01 13:06:37] - the pastor gives 10% of his income to god.  she's only asking for 18% of his food budget for that meal.  i'm sure the 18% was spelled out on the menu.  gah, what an asshole.  the waitress does deserve sympathy regardless of the whole "god" comment.  ~a

[2013-02-01 11:23:46] - Fake Science that isn't fake: http://fakescience.tumblr.com/post/41715546155/distribution-of-results -- Xpovos

[2013-02-01 11:18:34] - Is there any rhyme or reason as to when google decides to make you log out and back in again?  It happens at some of the most annoying times and I still can't figure it out. - mig

[2013-02-01 10:17:06] - It's just really silly the amount of venom Applebee's has gotten over this.  Seriosuly, what do you want them to do?  Just be cool with servers doing that? - mig

[2013-02-01 10:13:45] - aaron:  I have no problem with the public shaming, becuase honestly there should be a way to shame people who act like assholes.  It just perplexes me why so many people are outraged about the firing, and don't see why publicly showing somebody's receipt to the internet is actually kind of a big deal. - mig

[2013-02-01 10:11:22] - aarmig: I heard on the radio this morning that the pastor (apparently a female) has been identified and has apologized for the note. -Paul

[2013-02-01 10:09:35] - mig: late that it contained personal information, and tried her best to remove it. she didn't post the information on purpose, she just meant to post the funny note. i mean arguably The Consumerist is just as guilty for posting the top-half of the name, and identifying the culprit as a pastor - aaron

[2013-02-01 10:07:43] - mig: “If this person wrote the note, obviously they wanted it seen by someone,” she points out. “It’s strange to me that now that the audience is wider than just the server, the person is now ashamed.” that's the best argument i can see in the waitress's favor, but i agree that the waitress is in kind of an indefensible position... she realized too - aaron

[2013-01-31 16:42:19] - a: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shane-l-windmeyer/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a_b_2564379.html From the perspective of the Campus Pride executive director. -Paul

[2013-01-31 15:20:49] - Amy: I know you're not talking to me, but hello. -Paul

[2013-01-31 15:13:35] - hi mboard - amy

[2013-01-31 14:46:49] - I would think it should be obvious to anyone that posting a receipt with pesonally identifiable information like the last 4 digits of a credit card and signature would pretty clearly be a firable offense. - mig

[2013-01-31 14:46:11] - http://consumerist.com/2013/01/31/waitress-who-posted-no-tip-receipt-from-pastor-customer-fired-from-job/ waitress posts customers no-tip receipt w/ snide remark online, gets fired.  There's an outpouring of sympathy for the fired waitress but I'm not sure why. - mig

[2013-01-31 12:48:56] - mig: Huh, actually I hadn't heard that. There were times this season where I wondered if had already retired. :-P -Paul

[2013-01-31 12:30:48] - paul:  heard on the radio this morning (though you probably already know i guess):  Donal Driver has officially retired. - mig

[2013-01-31 10:34:40] - yeah, probably.  i'm not impolite.  if a friend offers me food, i wouldn't turn my nose up at it.  especially something as tasty as c-f-a.  ~a

[2013-01-31 10:25:39] - a: :-D I'm amused, in a horrified kind of way.  P.S. If I bought you some Chick-Fil-A, would you eat it? -- Xpovos

[2013-01-31 10:10:03] - Daniel: Still, he can believe whatever he wants to believe, if he puts up 20/10/5 I'll totally add him to my basketball team. :-) -Paul

[2013-01-31 10:09:32] - Daniel: Yeah, and it sounds like he is trying to use mental illness as an excuse for not accepting personal responsibility for things. That could be a big issue when you also believe almost everybody has a mental illness. -Paul

[2013-01-31 09:51:26] - xpovos:  i wanted to respond to your facebook post with "tee hee".  audrey convinced me not to, thinking the "joke" might fall flat.  ~a

[2013-01-31 09:50:24] - Also his idea that maybe every single person should have a doctor that tells them whether its healthy to go to work today seems a little crazy as well.  -Daniel

[2013-01-31 09:49:17] - Paul: Yeah some of his core beliefs seem kind of out there.  It seems he wants the world to not have any stress in it (which I think is impossible) and he is blaming all of these things for the existence of stress.  -Daniel

[2013-01-30 17:11:50] - Daniel: Having said that, I think I was more on his side before I knew more specifics about his beliefs. It was easy to root for him when all I thought was that it was a "he said, she said" about his mental health. Not sure I'm on board with his conspiracy about companies trying to make us all mentally ill, or whatever. -Paul

[2013-01-30 17:06:02] - Daniel: I had him on my fantasy basketball team (deep league, dynasty) for the longest time, but eventually dropped him after he was suspended for not reporting to the D-League for the 100th time. Would love to add him back to my team if I thought he might play this year. -Paul

[2013-01-30 16:38:29] - http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8890734/chuck-klosterman-royce-white  Interesting article about Royce White for those who are interested in him.  -Daniel

[2013-01-30 13:59:32] - my cynical side wonders if this guy wanted to be deceived.  a campus director that would be otherwise benefited by a restaurant deal?  anyways, that's just my cynical half.  ~a

[2013-01-30 13:56:14] - well i can think of lots of possible motives.  the all encompassing motive though is:  he only had to deceive on one guy instead of pulling one over on actual journalists.  ~a

[2013-01-30 13:54:03] - a: Ok, well, why do you think they showed them to this LGBTA head, then? I mean, there was a CNN article written up about it, it doesn't seem like they are trying to keep anything a secret. -Paul

[2013-01-30 13:50:35] - you can make forms public if you want.  it's like saying that romney's forms weren't made public by the IRS.  well, no, we wanted you, mr romney, to make them public.  ~a

[2013-01-30 13:49:02] - a: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57566668-1/chinese-golf-resort-tees-off-with-worlds-largest-human-qr-code Here's a QR code for you. -Paul

[2013-01-30 12:43:17] - a: And I'm not sure if the 990 forms being public is something that Chick-Fil-A controls: "WinShape Foundation filed the tax forms on November 15, according to Campus Pride, and they are public information that will be released by the IRS when it deems fit." -Paul

[2013-01-30 12:42:28] - a: Right, in fact I believe it specifically points out that they still fund groups like the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, but that many people don't have (as many?) issues with them. -Paul

[2013-01-30 12:10:03] - most importantly though, it doesn't actually say that the 990 forms were made public.  ~a

[2013-01-30 12:09:58] - paul:  regarding your link yesterday, it doesn't actually say that chick-fil-a stopped donating to anti-gay organizations (just the divisive ones).  it doesn't actually say that cathy personally stopped donating to divisive (or otherwise) anti-gay orgizations.  ~a

[2013-01-30 11:33:51] - a: It reminds me a bit of when Romney directly asked Obama a question at a debate, but Obama didn't answer because the debate rules stated that you weren't supposed to directly speak to the other person (or something like that). -Paul

[2013-01-30 11:33:11] - a: Yeah, I can see where you are coming from. I think it's a meaningful edit because it removes some context where he appears to be asking the crowd a question, but at the same time apparently the crowd isn't supposed to say anything according to the rules. -Paul

[2013-01-30 11:28:17] - paul:  yes. - mig

[2013-01-30 11:28:08] - y.  ~a

[2013-01-30 11:27:50] - a: "msnbc 911 editing controversy" Is that the Trayvon Martin one? -Paul

[2013-01-30 11:23:17] - as editing of content to further narratives go, this one is very tame.  at least three times as tame as the msnbc 911 editing controversy and at least twice as tame as anything playing on fox news at any given time.  in summary:  yawn.  ~a

[2013-01-30 11:14:25] - oh i think i get it; is it because they cut the clip after the first "why anybody in this room" and before the second "why anybody in this room??"  honestly i just heard the "anybody in this room" bit in the clip and was like, "oh ok he's asking a rhetorical question and they answered it..." maybe because i already had the context provided in the article - aaron

[2013-01-30 11:12:36] - mig: how did they "selectively edit audio/video content"? there's nothing about that in the article; just some nit-picking over the definition of "heckling" and whether responding to a rhetorical question during a speech constitutes heckling... - aaron

[2013-01-30 10:51:44] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/01/30/msnbc-reviewing-newtown-heckled-video/ msnbc caught selectively editing audio/video content to suit its narrative ... again. - mig

[2013-01-30 09:20:10] - aaron:  you're it.  ~a

[2013-01-30 09:00:28] - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323375204578269991660836834.html Group of Men Have Played Game of Tag for 23 Years; Hiding in Bushes, Cars - aaron

[2013-01-29 19:48:22] - i did not know there was an online version of cards against humanity. - mig

[2013-01-29 19:20:05] - http://www.twitch.tv/gamebreakertv some people are going to livestream some writers from a game site I frequent are going to do a livestream of themselves playing cards against humanity.  most likely nsfw.  not sure when it's going live but if you miss it you can check the video archives for it. - mig

[2013-01-29 16:17:39] - mig:  total value of all bitcoins just reached 200 million USD.  ~a

[2013-01-29 15:10:29] - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-28/bitcoin-s-gains-may-fuel-central-bank-concerns-chart-of-the-day.html all hail the bitcoin! - mig

[2013-01-29 14:36:06] - where does this box go?

[2013-01-29 14:35:46] - my work internet makes no sense.  some days I can get on here.  Most days I can't.  Weird.  -Daniel

[2013-01-29 14:10:46] - "Paul:  How is she pregnant if they aren't married yet?" *sigh* ~g

[2013-01-29 14:02:37] - g:  the office version (6 years later) had them cleaning up the mess.  ~a

[2013-01-29 13:04:23] - why are people so mean? why would you throw your drink at a drive through employee??? They are people too! ~g

[2013-01-29 12:41:26] - a: How the hell do you throw a two and a-half foot long live rat snake into a drive-thru window? -Paul

[2013-01-29 12:36:52] - a:  it would have been contrary to his objective though.  he wanted to take the free water to cost them money.  if he gave it back they company loses nothing, therefore negating the reason for him going there in the first place. - mig

[2013-01-29 12:30:59] - according to google trends, it peaked around 2007.  ~a

[2013-01-29 12:30:11] - knowyourmeme . . . scroll down to the arrests section.  ~a

[2013-01-29 12:24:49] - a: Is that an actual thing and not just from The Office? -Paul

[2013-01-29 12:14:22] - i think he's not taking the moralistic grandstanding far enough.  why didn't he yell "fire in the hole" after he got his free water?  ~a

[2013-01-29 11:54:12] - OTOH it's possible to take the moralistic grandstanding a little too far. - mig

[2013-01-29 11:53:43] - g:  I generally don't have any issue with boycotting places over political issues though I do find them silly and sometimes misguided.  Honestly, it's something that companies that have people who aren't shy about their political leanings should be keeping in mind. - mig

[2013-01-29 11:46:19] - also let me know if they make a public reversal.  something along the lines of "homosexual conduct is not harmful to the persons who engage in it and to society at large"  or along the lines of "we didn't make the chicken, just the christian sandwhich, and no more politics we promise."  ~a

[2013-01-29 11:39:40] - a: I'll let you know when they sell all their assets for a loss and hang their heads in shame so you can eat there again. -Paul

[2013-01-29 11:37:25] - a true public reversal is needed to undo "homosexual conduct is harmful to the persons who engage in it and to society at large"  ~a

[2013-01-29 11:36:32] - paul:  yes, i missed that.  ok, this counts as a public(ish) reversal.  since it's not exactly a public reversal, i'm not exactly convinced, but i'll reconsider.  ~a

[2013-01-29 11:35:47] - a: I dunno, I think I have more respect for the way Chick-Fil-A is handling this (privately reaching out to LGBTA organizations, apparently quietly suspending charitable donations for controversial groups) rather than making a big deal about it. -Paul

[2013-01-29 11:35:07] - i understand too.  additionally, i should be allowed to refuse to eat at chick-fil-a, and refuse to donate to the boy scouts of america.  chick-fil-a and the boyscouts should be allowed to file for chapter 11, and sell all their assets at a loss, and they should be allowed to hang their heads in shame.  ~a

[2013-01-29 11:33:42] - a: "Campus Pride issued a statement Monday claiming that Chick-fil-A gave the organization's executive director, Shane Windmeyer, access to WinShape's 2011 "990" tax documents." -Paul

[2013-01-29 11:33:00] - g: I think I understand to a certain extent. It's the same reason why I think the Boy Scouts should be allowed to ban gay troop leaders (another thing which looks to be falling) and the Catholic Church should be allowed to ban female priests. -Paul

[2013-01-29 11:31:14] - they did?  ~a

[2013-01-29 11:31:14] - a: Seems like it's damned if they do (I remember people making fun of BP for all their PR commercials after the oil spill) and damned if they don't. -Paul

[2013-01-29 11:29:58] - a: Well, they reached out to the LGBTA guy presumably so he would go spread the word about what they did. Do you want them to come out with some big commercial to toot their own horn or something? -Paul

[2013-01-29 11:27:59] - at the same time I am totally okay with being mad at them for financially funding anti gay rights groups... I dont know if this makes sense to anyone but me. ~g

[2013-01-29 11:27:02] - I feel like being mad at Chic-Fil-A for not supporting gay rights is a rabbit hole I really dont want to get into - for some reason it feels like it would end up with religious discrimination - basically discriminating against them for being religious... ~g

[2013-01-29 11:24:52] - paul: his post was thinking it was amusing that the police dont actually have a duty to help... ~g

[2013-01-29 11:18:54] - g:  unfortunate and disgusting but not surprising.  The justice system goes to great lengths to make sure police are very rarely held accountable for just about anything. - mig

[2013-01-29 11:17:05] - paul:  hah, no?  how is that anywhere near a public reversal?  chick-fil-a hasn't made any comments, let alone a reversal of their reprehensible (imo) position.  ~a

[2013-01-29 11:10:18] - g: I'm guessing he posted that as a reason for people to be responsible for their own defense (ie, own a gun)? Did you just find what happened to them to be horrible? Or the police reaction too? -Paul

[2013-01-29 11:09:12] - a: Does the article not count as a public reversal? -Paul

[2013-01-29 11:01:01] - saw this on vihao's fbook and thought it horrible and intresting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia ~g

[2013-01-29 10:57:48] - paul: I am not sure, I mean I dont really need them to be pro lgbt rights so much as not anti them... So in some ways yea its better... but it does seem like that article is just a publicity push for them... ~g

[2013-01-29 10:41:58] - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/virginia-love-shack-bill_n_2567353.html unmarried couples who are living together can relax, you are no longer violating virginia state law.- mig

[2013-01-29 10:22:28] - alternatively, a public apology or public reversal would cut it.  any of the three would be enough for me.  ~a

[2013-01-29 10:20:01] - the damage is done.  if they start funding pro-lgbt groups, it'll be "safe" for me to eat at chick-fil-a again.  ~a

[2013-01-29 10:08:37] - http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/28/us/chick-fil-a-philanthropy/index.html?hpt=hp_c3 Safe for some of you to eat at Chick-Fil-A again? -Paul

[2013-01-28 17:14:32] - only maybe.  ~a

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