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[2001-05-08 20:19:00] - they made the point however, that many people still use office 97.  it's an issue of forcing upgrades upon people. - mig

[2001-05-08 18:39:00] - Now they're just making it official - aaron

[2001-05-08 18:39:00] - That's not so bad miguel - Microsoft usually comes out with a new version of MS Office every 2 years so that all companies have to buy new software anyways - aaron

[2001-05-08 18:20:00] - http://www.notmydesk.com/guide/commute.html - A person talks about an automotive spider. I found it riotously funny. Your mileage may vary. - aaron

[2001-05-08 17:44:00] - http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=673 -logan

[2001-05-08 16:16:00] - bleh.  time to get a new graphics card.  i can't find current drivers for my diamond speedstar a70 anywhere.  :[  -  aba

[2001-05-08 12:44:00] - http://capitalismmagazine.com/2001/april/ts_dutydie.htm -logan

[2001-05-08 12:43:00] - http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5851009.html?tag=tp_pr  this is fucked up. - mig

[2001-05-08 02:28:00] - http://pub101.ezboard.com/brepnet <-- some random person just im'd me this. -jdb

[2001-05-08 00:43:00] - anyone else vaguely amused by the dnc's new t-shirt?  https://www.democrats.org/support/    :-p  -  aba

[2001-05-07 20:25:00] - http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/antibetdesign/vampires.htm -jdb

[2001-05-07 19:56:00] - the only difference the focus of power. - mig

[2001-05-07 19:55:00] - with no government, business is essentially the government. - mig

[2001-05-07 18:40:00] - Business is very different from government in many ways, I don't see how you can compare them -paul

[2001-05-07 18:32:00] - logan hit the nail on the head when he said i value things besides the raw cost of materials. you heard it here first, i care about more than money! -jdb

[2001-05-07 18:31:00] - it just seems to me to be a lot of hypocrisy. no, no, no government bad ---> yes, yes, yes business very good (the new government). -jdb

[2001-05-07 18:29:00] - http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/040801ed-index.html <-- lots of great nytimes stories on education -jdb

[2001-05-07 18:13:00] - Because obviously it is the government's job to make sure poor mom-and-pop can stay in business -paul

[2001-05-07 18:09:00] - paul: And if very few think like him, I don't see why we should care. :P -logan

[2001-05-07 18:01:00] - Well, if enough people think like him, then I don't see why an inefficient mom-and-pop restaurant couldn't stay in business in a libertarian america -paul

[2001-05-07 17:59:00] - paul: jdb obviously thinks they are better.  He values things besides just the raw cost of the meal.  Therefore it follows that he would pay the extra expense to support such stores.  Therefore they have a market. -logan

[2001-05-07 17:52:00] - http://www.salon.com/news/col/horo/2001/05/07/tone/index.html

[2001-05-07 17:48:00] - I fail to see how a libertarian america would force mom-and-pop restaurants out of business, and who is to say that those restaurants are any better then restaurant chains? -paul

[2001-05-07 16:10:00] - jdb: I have a lengthy argument that shows that your concern about "mom-and-pop" restaurants is unfounded. -logan

[2001-05-07 15:58:00] - http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=671 -logan

[2001-05-07 15:56:00] - $2 / hr is great when a decent meal costs $2. :P -logan

[2001-05-07 15:11:00] - (or no real change from current situation...)

[2001-05-07 15:06:00] - do you think a "libertarian america" would be chocked full of mom-and-pop restaurants, or filled with many-many chains (w/ cheap $2/hour employees)? -jdb

[2001-05-07 14:52:00] - I can't imagine how a libertarian america would make going to a restaurant any less desireable then it is now -paul

[2001-05-07 14:47:00] - http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/127/nation/A_Russian_solution_to_US_problem+.shtml -jdb

[2001-05-07 13:50:00] - http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/faith2.htm

[2001-05-07 13:42:00] - i really wish i hadn't put the tower as my third choice, just because i could have originally been somewhere better.  i was just too scared of being in a worse dorm (ie in the upper quad).  -  aba

[2001-05-07 13:40:00] - this is what i asked for though: Payne, Harper, New Res, Main Egg, East Campbell, Newman or AJ (in order of preference).  i guess i have to wait until the end of the month in order to find out where i'll be living.  -  aba

[2001-05-07 13:38:00] - it really pisses me off that even though i am a junior now, i still couldn't get into main egg.  >:o  -  aba

[2001-05-07 13:30:00] - aba: i'm really hoping to be on a non-elevator needing floor. :)  -kris

[2001-05-07 13:29:00] - i don't really like lee.  the couple of times that i have been in there, my feet stuck to the floors of the elevators.  - aba

[2001-05-07 13:25:00] - aba: you should live in lee next year!! -kris

[2001-05-07 13:19:00] - our floors aren't really that big though. (to need more than two elevators)  -kris

[2001-05-07 12:06:00] - I mean, that's gotta be day one of achitectural design: people don't like to walk up lots of stairs or squeeze into a small space - boing

[2001-05-07 12:05:00] - I want to know who the architect was that designed slusher tower, and why the university paid him or her to design an ugly building that doesn't fit the theme of other campus buildings, and only provides two small elevators for 12 floors - boing

[2001-05-07 11:45:00] - er, east campbell.

[2001-05-07 11:45:00] - even with bugs, it'd be worth moving to east aj. i'd hate to live somewhere where i had to use an elevator. yuck. -jdb

[2001-05-07 11:40:00] - apparently, they don't want people calling for 2 weeks after they submit housing change request to housing@vt.edu. they said that contacting people personally via email, and especially calling, will slow down the process. -jdb

[2001-05-07 11:37:00] - i was in east campbell last summer... the amount of bugs they had in that building was amazing.    every night, our floors would literally be covered in flying ants and roaches.  the rdp seemed to think it was our problem. - katie

[2001-05-07 11:17:00] - my hope is that i get transfered over to east campbell.  they have much nicer rooms and stuff than the tower does.  -  aba

[2001-05-07 11:16:00] - his phone number is 18058.  i think he said dorms with space still left were AJ, lee, o'shag, johnson and east campbell (i think there were a couple of more dorms in there).  :-\  basically we all got screwed over by rdp.  -  aba

[2001-05-07 11:15:00] - i talked to ken belcher on the phone and he said that almost all of the dorms are filled up, and we all got crappy dorms because of our lottery numbers.  you can ask him where there is space left so there is a higher chance of being transfered. - aba

[2001-05-07 10:55:00] - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/wjla/20010504/lo/students_silenced_while_singing_national_anthem_1.html -jdb

[2001-05-07 10:47:00] - paul: not at all. but imagine a super-granular, fee-based world. -jdb

[2001-05-07 10:37:00] - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010507/od/heroin_dc_1.html    interesting concept here.  -  aba

[2001-05-07 09:48:00] - hmmm... so it really isn't crystal clear who would have won.... interesting.  - mig

[2001-05-07 05:05:00] - http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20010507-275233.htm

[2001-05-07 04:04:00] - I'm a bit confused, are you implying that Libertarians hate restaurants? -paul

[2001-05-07 00:55:00] - ... and then rent out space from a local dining hall.

[2001-05-07 00:54:00] - no, libertarians wouldn't bother trying to eat dinner together. they'd prefer to go to the slaughterhouse to get meat, the import store to get rice, farmers market to get vegetables, hire a chef from the local phone directory...

[2001-05-07 00:26:00] - Sorry, I guess it's the libertarian in me that tries to accomodate everyone -paul

[2001-05-06 23:16:00] - paul: the secret is to be a benevolent dictator when planning :-D -jdb

[2001-05-06 23:05:00] - hm.  you need to show me where the asian food stores are next year.  there are definitely things i'd like to buy every now and again.  -  aba

[2001-05-06 22:59:00] - you aren't bad at it.  in fact you're better at it than most people i know.  -  aba

[2001-05-06 22:55:00] - Nothing, except I don't like planning things because I'm so bad at it and I mess everything up -paul

[2001-05-06 22:52:00] - paul: what's wrong with planning things? -jdb

[2001-05-06 22:51:00] - i don't mind planning it.  it'd be nice if everything wasn't so last minute.  :-P  we almost didn't have enough drivers.  -  aba

[2001-05-06 22:50:00] - As long as someone else plans it, sounds like a good tradition -paul

[2001-05-06 22:50:00] - aba: there are 2 fairly close to campus. plus the health food store sells some asian stuff. -jdb

[2001-05-06 22:47:00] - i think it was a good way to end the year.  maybe we can make this an end of the semester thing from now on?  -  aba

[2001-05-06 22:46:00] - isn't there only one that's near campus?  -  aba

[2001-05-06 22:46:00] - I can't wait until next time, when I can eat meat. There teriyaki dishes are so good -paul

[2001-05-06 22:44:00] - we've got a few asian stores in this little ol' burg. :-D -jdb

[2001-05-06 22:42:00] - you might be able to get it at the asian store around here.  i've never been to it though.  -  aba

[2001-05-06 22:06:00] - aba: if you ever find red bean icecream in grocery store, let me know. -jdb

[2001-05-06 21:33:00] - ugh.  i am sooo full now, yet i want more ice cream.  :[  -  aba

[2001-05-06 21:33:00] - sooo... slow!  ~a

[2001-05-06 21:32:00] - kayo's -- sooo... good!

[2001-05-06 13:49:00] - http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/metro/columns/mannjudy/A2378-2001Apr10.html

[2001-05-06 11:01:00] - http://www.boobytrap.org/ -jdb

[2001-05-06 09:22:00] - http://www.thewiredpress.com/archives/culture/bush_weakest_link.html -jdb

[2001-05-06 03:02:00] - jdb:  yuck, i thought i already fixed that (the problem with the editthispage link).  oh well, it works now  :-\  ~a

[2001-05-06 01:33:00] - http://members.nbci.com/nsamp42/Sampler2.html <-- a lot of those videos are cool

[2001-05-06 01:29:00] - try this instead --> http://members.nbci.com/nsamp42/Sampler2/Wushu-Sampler.mpg

[2001-05-06 01:25:00] - http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/nsamp42/Sampler2/Wushu-Sampler.mpg -jdb

[2001-05-06 01:16:00] - ll

[2001-05-05 23:39:00] - http://joel.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$341 -jdb

[2001-05-05 22:45:00] - http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story111445.html -jdb

[2001-05-05 18:14:00] - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wsmpdf/files/supplements/maypost.pdf -jdb

[2001-05-05 17:17:00] - meet on south end of building? -jdb

[2001-05-05 17:01:00] - well, adrian and i are eating at owens at 5:30.  >:o  -  aba

[2001-05-05 16:47:00] - ok, 5:30 owens?  -  aba

[2001-05-05 16:36:00] - We could eat an early dinner today, I wouldn't mind since I haven't eaten since yesterday either -paul

[2001-05-05 16:30:00] - i'm a hungry hungry hippo.  i haven't eaten since 11 pm last night.  :[  -  aba

[2001-05-05 16:24:00] - heh.  you know from experience, don't you.  ~a

[2001-05-05 16:23:00] - Waking up in the evening is no fun if you have a morning exam -paul

[2001-05-05 16:17:00] - *yawn* . . . waking up in the evening is fun!  :)  ~a

[2001-05-05 16:16:00] - me.  ~a

[2001-05-05 15:34:00] - Anyone want to go bowling tonight? -paul

[2001-05-05 14:46:00] - ###/pics/download/19.gif

[2001-05-05 14:30:00] - whatever happened to just giving you a 0 on the assignment.  isn't that punishment enough? - mig

[2001-05-05 14:26:00] - paul: That sort of education (indoctrination) is not a good idea, no matter who's doing it. -logan

[2001-05-05 14:22:00] - uva's honor system is a big joke.  i am very glad that i didn't go there.  -  aba

[2001-05-05 14:17:00] - jdb:  i don't think we should.  - mig

[2001-05-05 14:11:00] - And trusting education to the government is not a good idea :-) -paul

[2001-05-05 14:08:00] - paul: The problem you speak of is centered around indoctrination -- What is going to be pumped into our children's heads?  It's this whole method of "education" that is the problem. -logan

[2001-05-05 14:05:00] - Because there is no objective standard for what education is. -logan

[2001-05-05 14:04:00] - They are the same problem. -logan

[2001-05-05 14:04:00] - Some parents want creationism taught in school, some don't want sex education, it's impossible to satisfy everyone -paul

[2001-05-05 14:03:00] - I see it more as a problem of how to tailor the public schools so that all the parents are satisfied with it's policies and what is taught -paul

[2001-05-05 14:02:00] - I agree with Logan that we should get rid of public schools, but not necessarily because of the reasons he gives. -paul

[2001-05-05 14:00:00] - I really have no opinion on that.  I don't care what other people do to get a grade. -logan

[2001-05-05 13:57:00] - I see public education as the wall.  Forcing people to pay to send their kids to prison for 8 or more hours a day for 12 years of their lives, during the time in life when they are most capable of learning, is quite a wall. -logan

[2001-05-05 13:54:00] - i think virginia tech should have a single sanction policy also :-P -jdb

[2001-05-05 13:54:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/school/0,1383,43561,00.html -jdb

[2001-05-05 13:53:00] - i don't see public education as an obstacle (the wall), i see it as tearing down the wall. -jdb

[2001-05-05 13:53:00] - intelligence of course isn't the only thing connected to wealth. nobody would argue that. but if there is a correlation, why in the world would we want to build more obstacles? -jdb

[2001-05-05 13:50:00] - jdb: Higher literacy and more movement between classes occurred before compulsory schooling, too.  How do you explain that, if intelligence is naturally connected to wealth?

[2001-05-05 13:48:00] - if public schooling were abolished, i think the quality of your education would become even more connected to your class. more money, better education. no money, you're fucked. -jdb

[2001-05-05 13:45:00] - i'd have to agree with josh. - mig

[2001-05-05 13:44:00] - a class system existed in the u.s. long before public compulsory schooling. if public schooling were abolished, class would not disappear. -jdb

[2001-05-05 12:42:00] - I'm not sure what you two are arguing. -logan

[2001-05-05 12:41:00] - jdb insists that there is a class system in the US.  If there is one, public compulsory schooling is the culprit. -logan

[2001-05-05 12:41:00] - and i take it that by you being here, you do want to be here, and a high school education is required for that, no? - mig

[2001-05-05 12:40:00] - aba: And what of the costs imposed on all of us? -logan

[2001-05-05 12:40:00] - aba: Sure, but what about the 10-12 years of my life leading to that point? -logan

[2001-05-05 12:35:00] - yes, but in the process of getting to vt, you went to a public high school which you chould have dropped out of once you turned the legal age.  -  aba

[2001-05-05 12:28:00] - jdb:  it's idiotic because they are trying to use this month to generate their support for censoring things just because they don't like it.  their also using the same argument that lieberman is using with video games/music/movies. - mig

[2001-05-05 12:16:00] - What I thought was idiotic was the common fallacy of associating a correlation between sex offenders and their love of pornography (how shocking) with causation. -logan

[2001-05-05 12:14:00] - aba: I dislike publicly funded compulsory education of minors.  While VT is partially funded by public money, it is by no means compulsory or targeted towards indoctrination of minors. -logan

[2001-05-05 12:10:00] - yes, so then telling people that porn stars and porn afficianados are "victims" is kind of dumb, right?  -  aba

[2001-05-05 12:04:00] - i really don't think there is anything wrong with porn, so long as minors aren't involved in the production or purchasing process. -jdb

[2001-05-05 11:39:00] - i think he thinks it is idiotic because if someone wants to look at porn and the people in the porn are willing participants, then there's nothing bad about it.  *shrug*  -  aba

[2001-05-05 11:35:00] - if you dislike schools so much logan, then why are you here?  -  aba

[2001-05-05 11:11:00] - mig: what is idiotic about it? -jdb

[2001-05-05 11:06:00] - Finals = Fuck I Never Actually Learned Shit -jdb

[2001-05-05 10:37:00] - http://www.cantrip.org/gatto.html -logan

[2001-05-05 10:00:00] - no porn? what happened to "the lusty month of may"? -kris

[2001-05-05 02:15:00] - http://www.wirednews.com/news/privacy/0,1848,43519,00.html who came up with this idiotic "awareness" month? - mig

[2001-05-04 23:56:00] - ...that anyone was able to find it. i just got it out of some search engine results, if i remember correctly. kim didn't link it to his website because he feared potential employers discriminating against him. -jdb

[2001-05-04 23:55:00] - an interesting thing about the Bevis page -- the author doesn't link to it from anywhere else on it's site. when i found it a few years back, and sent it to a math friend, who in turn emailed kim, kim was a bit weirded out... -jdb

[2001-05-04 23:54:00] - i looked up those names on vt people finder, i think they're comments originating from miguel(?) posting a link on dave wwwboard. :-D -jdb

[2001-05-04 23:53:00] - http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~kim/Bevis.html <-- i noticed this page has been updated with a postscript section. -jdb

[2001-05-04 23:39:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/adrianisabigfuck.html

[2001-05-04 23:19:00] - http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/05/04/darwin/ -jdb

[2001-05-04 22:35:00] - http://www.msnbc.com/news/568651.asp -jdb

[2001-05-04 22:31:00] - "Please don't abuse" Does that mean no pr0n? -paul

[2001-05-04 22:07:00] - in case you didn't see the previous 404 error message before someone posted to it, you can post files on any 404 error message (try stuff like http://aporter.dhs.org/blahblah.html or http://aporter.dhs.org/moocow.html )  ~a

[2001-05-04 22:00:00] - http://www.pieman.org/Who.mpg -jdb

[2001-05-04 21:46:00] - nm.  i'll just send an email out about it.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 21:37:00] - how about kayo on sunday night?  maybe saturday night if we can get rides for people?  -  aba

[2001-05-04 20:39:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/badfile.txt  ~a

[2001-05-04 20:24:00] - Actually, nevermind, I'll leave the planning to Josh. Is that ok with you? -paul

[2001-05-04 20:21:00] - I mean, do the majority of the people who want to eat at a restaurant want to eat at Kayo? -paul

[2001-05-04 20:19:00] - So do most people want to go to Kayo for dinner sometime? -paul

[2001-05-04 20:17:00] - asdf

[2001-05-04 18:46:00] - http://ter.air0day.com/terawards.html

[2001-05-04 18:28:00] - i would, but i am waiting for a phone call.  :-\  -  aba

[2001-05-04 18:17:00] - me!  ~a

[2001-05-04 18:17:00] - who wants to play frisbee?  ~a

[2001-05-04 18:16:00] - how about saturday or sunday night for kayo's? -jdb

[2001-05-04 18:16:00] - "hello, smithers your quite good at turning me on"

[2001-05-04 18:12:00] - heh.  "go to adultfriendfinder; give your hand a rest"  lol -kris

[2001-05-04 18:11:00] - wonderful, innocent, joyful frolicking (that just happens to be recorded for prosperity) -jdb

[2001-05-04 18:02:00] - what is not innocent about porno? -jdb

[2001-05-04 18:01:00] - no porn was posted.  i don't see the problem.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 18:00:00] - and why are we posting porn on my totally innocent message board?  ~a

[2001-05-04 17:59:00] - http://tuxedo.org/jargon/html/entry/pr0n.html -jdb

[2001-05-04 17:58:00] - if you look at the site, it's pretty obvious.  :p  -  aba

[2001-05-04 17:57:00] - *gasp*

[2001-05-04 17:52:00] - what is prOn?  ~a

[2001-05-04 17:51:00] - i dunno if we have enough cars to go to kayo's on such short notice.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 17:49:00] - http://www.pronster.com/

[2001-05-04 17:45:00] - it's interesting how that article blames child labor on western protestors. the article also implies that children want to work... those are some pretty big claims, that i've never heard anyone refuting globalization protests make. hmmm... -jdb

[2001-05-04 17:38:00] - http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/5/3/12239/35245 -logan

[2001-05-04 17:31:00] - logan: they know, and they don't care. -jdb

[2001-05-04 17:30:00] - http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/elder1.asp -jdb

[2001-05-04 17:27:00] - aba: The average joe cares about the cost of travel, and gas ain't cheap.  Those that buy SUVs know this. -logan

[2001-05-04 17:21:00] - wanna go tonight? :-D -jdb

[2001-05-04 17:19:00] - i'd be interested in going to kayo's.  i've never been there before.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 17:19:00] - a 27 mpg explorer doesn't exist because there's no incentive for the industry to create it.  the average joe doesn't give a fuck about the environment.  if they did they would be complaining about it.  i know what your response will be.  :P - aba

[2001-05-04 17:15:00] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1312000/1312708.stm -jdb

[2001-05-04 17:09:00] - paul mentioned a last dinner of the year a few days ago -- i'm interested in that. perhaps we could all go to kayo's? :-D -jdb

[2001-05-04 16:54:00] - http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ -kris

[2001-05-04 16:36:00] - http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4176143,00.html -logan

[2001-05-04 16:24:00] - aba: If it's so easy to do, wouldn't a 27 mpg Explorer already exist? -logan

[2001-05-04 16:23:00] - aba: Why should there be standards for efficiency?  You don't believe that company's already struggle on their own for efficiency because of the free market? -logan

[2001-05-04 16:09:00] - message board is back.  ~a

[2001-05-04 15:36:00] - message board goes down while i reindex search database.  ~a

[2001-05-04 15:14:00] - but it offers no better guarantees in terms of subtree balancing than a regular BST - boing

[2001-05-04 15:13:00] - it's useful for applications in which the same few nodes are accessed frequently, since they'll always be near the top - boing

[2001-05-04 15:13:00] - then again, when it comes to cars, ppl sometimes don't use common sense.  - mig

[2001-05-04 15:12:00] - just to add some 2 cents, it doesn't make much sense to make gas guzzling cars when the resource it depends on is getting more and more scarce.  - mig

[2001-05-04 15:12:00] - In a splay tree, when you insert or access a node, it is "rebalanced" such that that node is at the top of the tree - boing

[2001-05-04 15:03:00] - and seeing as the industry really isn't doing much about significantly raising fuel efficiency standards, the govt needs to step in.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 15:01:00] - not that i am for getting rid of suvs.  i just believe that we should have either govt or industry standards for fuel efficiency.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 15:00:00] - does anyone know what a splay tree is? - mig

[2001-05-04 15:00:00] - just because suvs are gas efficient in comparison to cars in 1978, doesn't mean that they are fuel efficient by today's standards.  instead of making them out of flimsier materials, manufacturers should concentrate on increasing efficiency.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 13:58:00] - And the next to last paragraph is hilarious. -logan

[2001-05-04 13:56:00] - The article makes a good point -- my mom always preferred me to have a huge gas guzzling tank instead of a small, efficient accordion. :P -logan

[2001-05-04 13:56:00] - http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?function=view&record=200 -logan

[2001-05-04 13:48:00] - Heh, it seems like a lot of people protest because they see a lot of others protesting (regardless of issue).  It's like mob rule. -logan

[2001-05-04 13:30:00] - Not like they don't have it already. ironically enough, having them removed early on probably would have been the best thing for them to do. Then this wouldn't have ballooned out of control like it has now -paul

[2001-05-04 13:28:00] - administrators usually can do whatever they want.  the only problem is that forcibly removing the students would make for some bad pr for them.  - mig

[2001-05-04 13:26:00] - If they weren't doing anything illegal, then I don't think the university would be able to do anything at all -paul

[2001-05-04 13:26:00] - That's why I was asking before, but I am fairly certain that they are illegally trespassing -paul

[2001-05-04 13:24:00] - could be that they aren't doing anything illegal....  - mig

[2001-05-04 13:23:00] - But that's just it, the university is taking a very unorthodox approach to this. They could just have the police arrest them all but they haven't done that yet -paul

[2001-05-04 13:13:00] - the only thing i could gather about the harvard administration is that they want to silence dissenters through any means necessary. - mig

[2001-05-04 13:07:00] - oof - boing

[2001-05-04 13:06:00] - ###/pics/download/18.gif ... this was actually on the Black & White site :-) - boing

[2001-05-04 12:50:00] - Argh, nevermind, I can't seperate my opinion of them from what they are protesting, I give up -paul

[2001-05-04 12:46:00] - Not to say that I think what the university is doing is right or what the students are doing is wrong -paul

[2001-05-04 12:46:00] - I mean, essentially the protesters gave the university the middle finger and broke the law, so they should expect some sort of punishment as a result -paul

[2001-05-04 12:45:00] - Well, I think it would be kind of naive if the protesters went into this thinking that there would be no negative side effects. I think the university is justified in what they are doing. -paul

[2001-05-04 12:39:00] - what reason is the administration giving for not allowing materials of education from going into a building of education?  ~a

[2001-05-04 12:36:00] - http://www.epinet.org/Issueguides/livingwage/livingwagefaq.html    here's a good faq about the living wage in case anyone wants to know more about it.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 12:27:00] - i think it's interesting that they have police checking all the food that goes in to make sure that no books or school-related materials go through.  it kind of puts the true goals of the university in perspective.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 12:26:00] - i think the harvard students' sit-in really doesn't use force or indicate any threat of force.  kudos to them for saying fuck the system and our grades.  i think the harvard staff is playing dirty.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 11:14:00] - http://www.infoanarchy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/5/4/65246/26457 - mig

[2001-05-04 11:09:00] - http://www.msnbc.com/news/567536.asp?0nm=C14N kind of scary....  - mig

[2001-05-04 10:58:00] - http://www2.usermagnet.com/cox/index.html

[2001-05-04 10:58:00] - http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/craig/05-03sharedsource.asp - mig

[2001-05-04 10:50:00] - http://perens.com/Articles/Patents.html - mig

[2001-05-04 09:13:00] - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010504/ts/congress_budget_dc_28.html  hahahahahahahahahaha.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 06:48:00] - if you think 500x500 is too small, let me know another size which would suit the message board better.  ~a

[2001-05-04 06:48:00] - jdb:  the maximum size allowed is 70k or 500x500.  your picture was less than 70k but it's height was 520 which is too big.  ~a

[2001-05-04 01:45:00] - In other words, I was wrong about what I said before, sorry :-( -paul

[2001-05-04 01:45:00] - In this case (Harvard) I think my opinions were colored by my views on the things that they were protesting. -paul

[2001-05-04 01:43:00] - My problem is that I can't seperate the protest from what they are protesting. I was thinking about it while playing Diablo 2 and I realized that I can think of some cases where protesting by doing something illegal is ok -paul

[2001-05-04 01:09:00] - i think protesting is one of those things that i would have to decide on a case-by-case basis.  there's no absolute wrong or right regarding it.  mig

[2001-05-04 00:25:00] - Ok, goodnight -paul

[2001-05-04 00:25:00] - Basically, I think protesting is fine as long as you don't cross that line where you use force or the threat of force... -paul

[2001-05-04 00:24:00] - ok, i was just wondering.  i'm off to bed, so that i wake up at the right time tomorrow.  goodnight.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 00:23:00] - Well, I don't think sitting in the front seats was illegal though... I mean, I see what you are getting at, but the situation is a bit different in my mind -paul

[2001-05-04 00:20:00] - so what do you think of the rosa parks incident?  was she in the wrong there?  -  aba

[2001-05-04 00:20:00] - I mean, protesting is all good and fine but just because you are protesting doesn't give you the right to break the laws -paul

[2001-05-04 00:19:00] - Well, I have no problem with them protesting, but if they are illegally staying in the room then I think they need to be removed and protest legally -paul

[2001-05-04 00:17:00] - i think it's about as illegal as black people sitting in "white people only" restaurants was illegal.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 00:14:00] - so if it is illegal you disagree and if it is legal you agree?  -  aba

[2001-05-04 00:14:00] - Does anybody know if this is illegal? -paul

[2001-05-04 00:11:00] - Well, I guess it really depends on whether or not what they are doing is illegal. I mean, it sounds as if occupying this room is against regulations but it also sounds as if the university has done nothing to get them to leave -paul

[2001-05-04 00:08:00] - it does to me.  i would like to know.  -  aba

[2001-05-04 00:06:00] - Doesn't matter much what I think -paul

[2001-05-03 23:59:00] - http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/2001/05/03/index.html -jdb

[2001-05-03 23:58:00] - do you think what they are doing is right, paul?  -  aba

[2001-05-03 23:52:00] - Ok, just wondering. -Thanks :-) -paul

[2001-05-03 23:49:00] - http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/2001/05/03/1.html -jdb

[2001-05-03 23:49:00] - paul: definitely. -jdb

[2001-05-03 23:44:00] - You still didn't answer my question :-) -paul

[2001-05-03 23:38:00] - "Dozens of student groups - even the Libertarians - have posted pro-living-wage banners." -jdb

[2001-05-03 23:38:00] - Hmmmm.... do you think what they are doing is right? -paul

[2001-05-03 23:37:00] - hardcore as in... they seem to be pretty determined. -jdb

[2001-05-03 23:36:00] - Hardcore? Care to elaborate? -paul

[2001-05-03 23:35:00] - paul: i think what they're doing is pretty hardcore. -jdb

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