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[2001-06-17 00:36:00] - chare=charge ~a
[2001-06-17 00:35:00] - dan suggests http://www.domaindiscover.com/ . he says they charge more but have a better agreement contract thing. they chare $50/2 years. ~a
[2001-06-17 00:32:00] - it is on the first page of images ~a
[2001-06-17 00:32:00] - paul: i went to pentagon.mil which redirects to http://www.defenselink.mil/ . then i clicked on images. ~a
[2001-06-17 00:27:00] - i meant a mascot like the hokie bird or the linux penguin. - mig
[2001-06-17 00:24:00] - mig: i guess the windows flag is the mascot? -jdb
[2001-06-16 23:52:00] - a: How did you find that picture? -paul
[2001-06-16 23:38:00] - jdb: Interesting that Nader and Now didn't get along, I never knew that -paul
[2001-06-16 23:30:00] - here's a random question: i've always wondered why after all this time, windows doesn't have some sort of mascot? i'm just curious about that. - mig
[2001-06-16 22:58:00] - whoops why = one. - mig
[2001-06-16 22:58:00] - hmmm... that's a good why. btw, how much does registering a domain name cost?(don't worry i have no intention of stealing yours) - mig
[2001-06-16 22:52:00] - why not mrious.org? - boing
[2001-06-16 22:39:00] - http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/LBOX/full/294727.jpg very interested in why this is on the dod website. ~a
[2001-06-16 22:33:00] - happy birthday visual basic. http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/bday/ ~a
[2001-06-16 22:33:00] - yes. that is a correct assumption. ~a
[2001-06-16 22:30:00] - i assume you know the lyrics aren't anything to be taken seriously? - mig
[2001-06-16 22:17:00] - yes i do. - mig
[2001-06-16 22:15:00] - @@@/beauty.txt ~a
[2001-06-16 22:12:00] - miguel, i assume you know the logical flaw in the nofx lyrics in your profile. right? ~a
[2001-06-16 21:46:00] - Make that http://www.livejournal.com/~xpovos ... -- Xpovos
[2001-06-16 21:45:00] - Again, FYI, updates to http://www.geocities.com/xpovos and http://www.lievejournal.com/~xpovos mostly talk about my new movie reviews.
[2001-06-16 21:44:00] - thought the list wasn't empty before. what happened, did it just wiped or something? - mig
[2001-06-16 21:36:00] - http://www.tjhsst.edu/~dweand/cgi-bin/Contacts.pl
[2001-06-16 20:29:00] - example of the nader/now conflict --> http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=9791 -jdb
[2001-06-16 20:12:00] - paul: i support now for the most part; keep in mind that now was not a fan of my presidential pick, nader. -jdb
[2001-06-16 19:34:00] - jdb: Oh yeah, I almost forgot, what do you think of |\|()\/\/ ? -paul
[2001-06-16 19:30:00] - jdb: Yeah, I was really bad about including where I got all my information at first, but Aparna yelled at me and so I started adding lots of links. I got lots of the info from books from the library if you want the names of the books -paul
[2001-06-16 19:13:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,44567,00.html -jdb
[2001-06-16 19:03:00] - paul: about sources. direct quotations, etc. work best. i think your referencing got better as you went along though. -jdb
[2001-06-16 19:00:00] - paul: hmmm. nothing. ~a
[2001-06-16 18:55:00] - yay!!! http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010614/en/video-simpsons_1.html -jdb
[2001-06-16 18:49:00] - paul: yes, i read mostly (skimmed partly) through the entries. -jdb
[2001-06-16 18:48:00] - just saw shrek... good movie! -jdb
[2001-06-16 17:26:00] - aaron: I will bet against as well -paul
[2001-06-16 17:22:00] - a: What's wrong with http://aporter.dhs.org ? -paul
[2001-06-16 17:21:00] - jdb: Did you end up finding them? the entries were primarily suppose to be opinion pieces but I was also hoping to persuade others. What kind of sources were you looking for? -paul
[2001-06-16 17:03:00] - oops. want.
[2001-06-16 15:11:00] - aaron. i wan't to bet against. ~a
[2001-06-16 15:02:00] - ok. any one else? mboard.org or themboard.org? ~a
[2001-06-16 13:42:00] - hehe, i've been awake since 3am for work - travis
[2001-06-16 13:15:00] - how about www.themboard.org? - mig
[2001-06-16 13:14:00] - awake! - mig
[2001-06-16 11:19:00] - everybody must still be sleeping. ~a
[2001-06-16 11:18:00] - all done!
~a[2001-06-16 10:45:00] - i am reindexing the search engine now. it should take 20+ minutes. ~a
[2001-06-16 10:44:00] - yuck. i fell asleep at 8:00 with my work clothes on, a spoon in my pocket, and a belt on.
~a[2001-06-16 10:32:00] - i just want to get an oppinion on it before i register it. and i hope none of you will preempt. ~a
[2001-06-16 10:27:00] - what would you guys think of www.mboard.org? is that a good domain name? i am about to register it. ~a
[2001-06-16 00:27:00] - well, i guess it depends on if you want your journals to be taken simply as opinion pieces or earnest persuasive arguments. -jdb
[2001-06-16 00:19:00] - paul: your entries would be much more effective if you included sources. -jdb
[2001-06-16 00:03:00] - paul: i can't even find them... -jdb
[2001-06-15 23:56:00] - jdb: I suggest you avoid reading them unless you are extremely bored or enjoy pain -paul
[2001-06-15 23:55:00] - i forgot about all of your journal writings -- i've got a lot of catching up to do! -jdb
[2001-06-15 23:19:00] - come to think of it, there are 3 bands this year who have been accused of "inspiring" kids killing themselves. - mig
[2001-06-15 23:18:00] - jdb: And if you don't know my stance on NOW, then you haven't been reading my journal
You can probably guess what I think about them -paul[2001-06-15 23:17:00] - jdb: Interesting note, none of the European countries have ratified the Kyoto treaty either. -paul
[2001-06-15 23:17:00] - jdb: Assuming global warming is real, then the article pointed out that enacting the provisions wouldn't make a noticeable difference -paul
[2001-06-15 23:15:00] - jdb: I posted that Cato article to show that the Europeans have no reason to bitch at us, but now that you mention it, I'm not really all that certain that signing the Kyoto Treaty is the "right" thing -paul
[2001-06-15 23:15:00] - i still find it very odd why they're just singling out manson. ozzfest has some pretty offensive bands this year. - mig
[2001-06-15 23:00:00] - http://www.salon.com/ent/wire/2001/06/15/manson/index.html -jdb
[2001-06-15 20:30:00] - it is odd. i don't know if i like it
~a[2001-06-15 20:30:00] - the cake song is odd. i guess it's not odd for cake. - mig
[2001-06-15 19:05:00] - new cake song!!! ###/pics/download/36.gif
[2001-06-15 19:05:00] - new cake song ###/pics/download/35.gif
[2001-06-15 19:05:00] - new cake song ###/pics/download/34.gif
[2001-06-15 19:04:00] - it amazes me that one can create so much (for the most part, meaningless) content for a personal website -jdb
[2001-06-15 17:54:00] - "My primary interest is fire alarm signals with strobes, but I also collect pull stations and non-strobe horns" Yeah, hm, interesting. - aaron
[2001-06-15 17:33:00] - jdb: you know him? damn, that's eerie - vinnie
[2001-06-15 17:06:00] - certainly one of the most interesting people i've ever met. example given: http://www.schuminweb.com/alarm-collection.htm -jdb
[2001-06-15 17:02:00] - i don't think he has them online anymore, he used to make them back when he was like a sophmore or so in high school. i'll try to get him to send it to me. -jdb
[2001-06-15 16:58:00] - which comic? ~a
[2001-06-15 16:55:00] - http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/06/14/abortion_boat/index.html -jdb
[2001-06-15 16:54:00] - haha, i know ben schumin (virtually); we've talked online for years. i'm in one of his comics
-jdb[2001-06-15 16:53:00] - YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY http://conversatron.com/ - aaron
[2001-06-15 16:49:00] - dewey: also, i think they may have changed to hotornot.com, but I thought they kept both domain names - vinnie
[2001-06-15 16:47:00] - dewey: he acknowledges spinnwebe exists (i did a search for it on his site - http://www.schuminweb.com), so he must know about his mockings - vinnie
[2001-06-15 16:20:00] - I wonder what his parents think of all this... I wonder if he has ever done a search for himself and found all the mocking pages of him? - dewey
[2001-06-15 16:19:00] - http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/migration/hotmail/default.asp -jdb
[2001-06-15 16:18:00] - ah! he has a talking message for his 404 error! - dewey
[2001-06-15 16:16:00] - I can't believe this ben kid. I guess JMU didn't get the sexiest campus award for it's computer geeks. and his computer he listed as being oh so great... yes well. - dewey
[2001-06-15 16:15:00] - hm, means Mitre must have blocked it. That's funny.
- dewey[2001-06-15 16:06:00] - vinnie: Ha ha ha. "I was always the geek in school, and there was hardly anyone I could've bullied, but man do I want to push this kid in some mud." - aaron
[2001-06-15 16:03:00] - its working for me. - mig
[2001-06-15 16:02:00] - was http://www.amIhotOrNot.com shutdown? I can't view it, and I tried the other day too. - dewey
[2001-06-15 15:55:00] - the gba is an interesting system, but i was never really crazy about handheld systems. - mig
[2001-06-15 15:50:00] - ugh, i'd hate to trade boucher for north http://www.washtimes.com/national/20010613-81854699.htm -jdb
[2001-06-15 15:49:00] - my sister bought it with the castlevania game. it's a really awesome game, but the screen is way too dark. - mig
[2001-06-15 15:46:00] - and here's the amihotornot experiment: http://www.spinnwebe.com/brainshots/hotornot/hotornot2.php - vinnie
[2001-06-15 15:44:00] - it's something he did a while back. here's the url: http://www.spinnwebe.com/stories/schumin/ - vinnie
[2001-06-15 15:44:00] - ah, the link I should have found earlier about graphic boards: http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,50883,00.asp - dewey
[2001-06-15 15:42:00] - has anyone gotten a chance to try out a game boy advance yet? -jdb
[2001-06-15 15:42:00] - vinnie: No! Where is it? Is this the Schuminweb link on his main page? - aaron
[2001-06-15 15:41:00] - paul: what is your opinion of the national organization for women? -jdb
[2001-06-15 15:40:00] - paul: in regard's to the cato article on the "kyoto scam," i am irked by the "it's just not fair" argument. that's the same one i heard bush repeating on the news yesterday. is the kyoto protocol about being fair, or doing what is right? -jdb
[2001-06-15 15:38:00] - ...i wouldn't buy any other [main-stream] brand.
-jdb[2001-06-15 15:37:00] - speaking of dell, i would like to say that i am very fond of the brand; my family is on Dell #4 (our first was back when they were named Pc's limited); i also have gotten to work with dell's at pretty much every job... -jdb
[2001-06-15 15:35:00] - aaron: did you ever see spinnwebe's week on ben schumin and their experiments in submitting him to amihotornot? - vinnie
[2001-06-15 15:26:00] - Gameboy Advance http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/all/gba/index-vg.html - dewey
[2001-06-15 15:10:00] - Maybe, but from my experience, PC manufacturers force people to play with the insides of their computer, and I don't appreciate that either. - aaron
[2001-06-15 15:06:00] - maybe. but i'll never own an apple. i like to play with the insides of my computer, and apple never seems to make machines that are friendly to that. - mig
[2001-06-15 15:03:00] - Or Apple. I was in an apple store here in tysons and the macintoshes were looking very appetizing.... Mmmmmmm... Plus %90 of the games I play are emulated anyways. Why not get a mac, you know? - aaron
[2001-06-15 15:01:00] - who nows, maybe in 5 or 10 years, maybe everyone will be using unix..... - mig
[2001-06-15 15:00:00] - paul: I don't think so, but I'm not sure. I mean, people are still using Word 97 today, 4 years after it came out. And in places like schools, they're probably using software even older than that. So who knows. - aaron
[2001-06-15 14:59:00] - Oh, well, yeah, my link was just supposed to demonstrate how I can stick Javascript into the table tags on Adrian's Message board, if I use the ?b parameter.... Heh. Yeah it's really annoying - aaron
[2001-06-15 14:51:00] - they've already started doing that with office, so i can't imagine they'll start doing it with all their other software soon enough. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:50:00] - whoops, i mean we'll probably have an upgrade, that is. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:49:00] - i expect that we'll have probably every year, with microsoft writing their EULA so that people would be forced to upgrade every year. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:49:00] - if it does what is was supposed to do - vinnie
[2001-06-15 14:48:00] - not very long. the whole basis of the system would seem very easy to break. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:48:00] - aaron: Do you think people will still be using XP 10 years from now? -paul
[2001-06-15 14:48:00] - aaron: your link is extremely annoying. was that the reaction you were hoping for? - vinnie
[2001-06-15 14:45:00] - Boo hoo. Nobody likes my link. I wonder if the Microsoft Server goes down or changes address or something, you know, like 10 years from now.... if xp will be completely useless, then... - aaron
[2001-06-15 14:43:00] - mig: Ah... I get it. Interesting way to prevent piracy. I wonder how long it will take to break it? -paul
[2001-06-15 14:42:00] - but I didn't know that the code told them what operating system and hardware I had. - dewey
[2001-06-15 14:41:00] - mig: no, I have already had to call microsoft when I reformatted my computer and reinstalled office2000
- dewey[2001-06-15 14:38:00] - yeah, but xp is restricting how many times you can "activate" it. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:36:00] - Hooray for Javascript. Come on already, click that link! - aaron
[2001-06-15 14:35:00] - dewey: Doesn't office 2000 already require you to register or else it only works like 20 times? -paul
[2001-06-15 14:35:00] - THERE click that link! It works now. Ha ha ha!
[2001-06-15 14:35:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/?b=1%20bgcolor=FFFFFF%20onmouseover=%22javascript:alert%28'Aaron%20is%20cool'%29%22 - aaron
[2001-06-15 14:33:00] - have you all encountered this 'feature' yet? http://www.pcworld.com/features/article/0,aid,49389,pg,4,00.asp - dewey
[2001-06-15 14:33:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/?b=1%20bgcolor=FFFFFF%20onmouseover="javascript:alert%28'Aaron%20is%20cool'%29" - aaron
[2001-06-15 14:32:00] - mig: See, that's the problem. People can sue for whatever reason they want, and a lot of times they win crazy cases like that. -paul
[2001-06-15 14:28:00] - Grrr I'll work on it. This will be cool - aaron
[2001-06-15 14:26:00] - well, before the mcdonalds case, i don't think we did let people sue for whatever they wanted. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:25:00] - Hey what what what? Why didn't the link show up? Augh
[2001-06-15 14:25:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/?b=1%20bgcolor=FFFFFF%20onclick=javascript:alert('Aaron is cool')
[2001-06-15 14:24:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/?b=1%20bgcolor=#FFFFFF
[2001-06-15 14:24:00] - mig: I believe in the right to sue, but I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to let anybody sue anybody else for any reason they want, seems like it would put too much of a financial burden on the government... -paul
[2001-06-15 14:22:00] - aaron: I think so, at least that is the meaning I got out of it. I just posted it because I thought it was funny
-paul[2001-06-15 14:20:00] - if we don't have the right to sue, then we don't have the right to sue the government, which would be in direct conflict with the libertarian agenda. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:19:00] - Okay, so is this comic below about how it is unfair to administer the death penality for people who are incompetent to stand trial? - aaron
[2001-06-15 14:19:00] - anyway paul, the bottomline, i think the right to sue someone is an important right, even though it can be heinously abused at times. after all, we do have the right to sue the government. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:17:00] - mig: I'll let you handle this one since I am way out of my league here
-paulk[2001-06-15 14:17:00] - so, in the case of the newspaper writing a false article about a politican they didn't like, it's not about the act of writing the article as much as the result that it had. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:16:00] - the thing about civil trials is that they focus more on the results of what happened, rather than what happened. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:15:00] - at least, nothing i have read on the libertarian stance on issues said directly or implied that. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:13:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/?b=5 ###/pics/download/33.gif
[2001-06-15 14:13:00] - not necessarily. at least I don't believe they should. - mig
[2001-06-15 14:12:00] - Again, I don't know much about law at all, but wouldn't civil trials be able to be replaced by criminal trials in a libertarian society? -paul
[2001-06-15 14:11:00] - yeah, that's the difference.
[2001-06-15 14:11:00] - paul: i'm not positive, but i think civil is between two citizens. criminal is govt. against citizen -dave
[2001-06-15 14:09:00] - yes, civil is between two citizens - vinnie
[2001-06-15 14:05:00] - mig: I'm not terribly knowledgable about law. Are civil trials ones that are suppose to resolve disputes between two citizens? -paul
[2001-06-15 14:01:00] - a: Neither do I, and it's really frustrating -paul
[2001-06-15 14:00:00] - paul: the thing is though, that things like libel result in a civil trial, not a criminal trial. it doesn't necessarily have to be something illegal in order to get sued. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:56:00] - paul, i have no idea ###/pics/download/32.gif
[2001-06-15 13:45:00] - Wow.... didn't expect it to show up like that.... -paul
[2001-06-15 13:44:00] - ###/pics/download/31.gif -paul
[2001-06-15 13:43:00] - a: Do you have any suggestions on what I can do to secure my rights? -paul
[2001-06-15 13:41:00] - mig: There is that, but I think that it probably should be ok for that to happen as long as she doesn't press charges or lie under oath -paul
[2001-06-15 13:41:00] - poorly designed website. at 800x600, the ads on the right don't even show up
- vinnie[2001-06-15 13:40:00] - a: I can assure you that that will change though -paul
[2001-06-15 13:37:00] - dewey: that's exactly why I brought it up. but i never really had an opinion about it before - vinnie
[2001-06-15 13:37:00] - http://63.111.42.146/news/article.asp?ArticleID=9290 -paul
[2001-06-15 13:37:00] - then again, paul, we have the case of the female who falsely accuses the male of rape. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:37:00] - it isn't legal for a newspaper to publish false information against a politician. - dewey
[2001-06-15 13:36:00] - a: Absolutely nothing. I am a failure
-paul[2001-06-15 13:36:00] - people sue other people for libel all the time. and the courts give it to them. - dewey
[2001-06-15 13:36:00] - paul: yeah, i actually don't see a problem with it either. i'm sure there's some situation where it would be directly harmful though - vinnie
[2001-06-15 13:35:00] - oops, didn't put out my last message fast enough
- vinnie[2001-06-15 13:34:00] - vinnie: Without thinking about it too much, I would say that it should be legal, but it's not something I have given great thought to
-paul[2001-06-15 13:33:00] - vinne: there is difference between "offensive" speech and "defamatory" speech. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:33:00] - now that i think about it, i'm not even sure i'm opposed to libel
forget what i said earlier - vinnie[2001-06-15 13:33:00] - http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,52943,cp,reuters,00.asp the carnivore program to lose funding? - dewey
[2001-06-15 13:32:00] - paul, besides maybe voting, what have you done to secure your rights? ###/pics/download/30.gif
[2001-06-15 13:31:00] - something false, btw. i think that may be in the definition - vinnie
[2001-06-15 13:31:00] - a: You are certainly free to not care, but I think politics is an important thing to care about... -paul
[2001-06-15 13:30:00] - in this case, basically something that damages someone's reputation. i guess it is a different matter though - vinnie
[2001-06-15 13:29:00] - vinnie: Refresh my memory, what exactly is libel? -paul
[2001-06-15 13:28:00] - a: You will have the freedom to do things that will make it so that you don't see any heathens -paul
[2001-06-15 13:28:00] - or you could just not care ###/pics/download/29.gif
[2001-06-15 13:27:00] - i think i agree, but what about things like libel? - vinnie
[2001-06-15 13:26:00] - I agree with dave
You do not have the right to not be offended or annoyed. If something is offending you or annoying you then you are responsible for fixing the problem -paul[2001-06-15 13:25:00] - i am not truly free till i don't have to see any heathens. ~a
[2001-06-15 13:24:00] - everybody: i don't think the real issue is violation of rights. i think most of us agree that as long as you don't violate other rights, it's ok. But there are times when it makes sense to deny rights that may cause harm - vinnie
[2001-06-15 13:24:00] - is the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness clause in the constitution? -dave
[2001-06-15 13:23:00] - i see your points. i guess it is a matter for the courts
~a[2001-06-15 13:23:00] - i think the crux of it is that the other person needs to be violating your rights. it's not a declared right to not be annoyed. unless you grouped that in with "pursuit of happiness" -dave
[2001-06-15 13:22:00] - vinnie: Sponsored by the RIAA
-paul[2001-06-15 13:19:00] - dear god this is funny http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0004/propaganda/mp3.cfm - vinnie
[2001-06-15 13:19:00] - a: I think the best way to think about it is that you don't have the right to not be offended -paul
[2001-06-15 13:18:00] - we live in a country of free speech. if you are offended by something, then too fucking bad. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:18:00] - dave: Exactly, you can say that merely existing offends somebody because you are using their oxygen -paul
[2001-06-15 13:17:00] - absolutely not. to put it in one perspective, let's say i find black people offensive. does that mean that all blacks that live near me are violating my rights? absolutely not. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:16:00] - a:i suppose it's just a matter of which are more direct and can be reasonably avoided etc etc -dave
[2001-06-15 13:15:00] - a: you can connect anything someone does to "violating" someone else's rights. -dave
[2001-06-15 13:15:00] - to put it one way, saying you have an absolute right to not have heathens live by you is the same as saying i have an absolute right to have a bmw for free. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:15:00] - a: There is a blurry line between what violates somebody else's rights and what doesn't. If somebody is offended by your ugly looking house, is that violating his rights? -paul
[2001-06-15 13:14:00] - yes. when i say "rights" at least, i mean legal rights. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:13:00] - therefore, because you live near me, and you are a heathen, you are violating my rights. therefore being a heathen should be illegal. i think i see your point though: you mean legal rights, right? ~a
[2001-06-15 13:12:00] - dewey: geforce cards suck for that kinda stuff -dave
[2001-06-15 13:12:00] - that's right. you can live where you want to, but you can't make the heathens move themselves. if you don't want to live near heathens you find a place that has none nearby. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:12:00] - dewey: one other thing you would get a good card for is business 2d stuff. like cad -dave
[2001-06-15 13:10:00] - i have the right to not have to live near a heathen. ~a
[2001-06-15 13:10:00] - well yes. like i said, murder is the violation of the rights of another. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:09:00] - ok. and there are people who believe that in some cases murder is moral. should we make murder legal? ###/pics/download/28.gif
[2001-06-15 13:07:00] - the act of murder violates the rights of others. watching porn or playing violent video games or watching r-rated movies does not. - mig
[2001-06-15 13:03:00] - a: That's great if that is what you believe, but I'm sure there are other out there who disagree. Some people might even think that not believing in god is immoral. Should we force all children to learn about and believe in god? -paul
[2001-06-15 13:01:00] - murder is immoral. ~a
[2001-06-15 12:58:00] - a: The problem with that is that the law is overbearing and enforces other people's morals and ethics on us -paul
[2001-06-15 12:54:00] - and parents should decide what their children should be exposed to, the problem is when it violates a law. ~a
[2001-06-15 12:51:00] - a: Parents should have the right to decide whether they think murder is ok or not, the problem is when they go and commit the murder -paul
[2001-06-15 12:50:00] - a: And what gives other people the right to tell me how to raise my child? -paul
[2001-06-15 12:48:00] - what gives the government the right to say what children should do and not do? shouldn't that be a decision left to the parents? shouldn't parents decide if murder is ok or not? ~a
[2001-06-15 12:46:00] - what gives the government the right to do anything? the people. ~a
[2001-06-15 12:40:00] - What gives the government the right to say what children should be exposed to and what they shouldn't be exposed to? Shouldn't that be a decision left to the parents? -paul
[2001-06-15 12:38:00] - dewey: Besides, aren't you the person that said that children should be sheltered from violence and porn? -paul
[2001-06-15 12:36:00] - dewey: You can't say that the kids will be anti-social because they don't go to public school. They will still have friends their age. That's like saying not going to church makes people anti-social because they don't meet other people -paul
[2001-06-15 11:57:00] - "Answer came there none, for they had eaten every one."
[2001-06-15 11:47:00] - I believe it was logan who said that he equated public school with child abuse. All conflicts will result in stress, and conflicts come from interaction. It is learning how to deal with that stress that you learn while in school also. - dewey
[2001-06-15 11:46:00] - meeting people outside of school is so hard when you are a little kid. even in high school, I looked forward to summer ending so I could see everyone at school again... - dewey
[2001-06-15 11:44:00] - all these kids will be anti-social people with no ability to comunicate with their peers. Half of schooling is learning how to interact with others. - dewey
[2001-06-15 11:43:00] - won't homeschooled children be too sheltered? how are they supposed to do crazy things that build memories? How do they go to prom, get their first kiss, etc. ? - dewey
[2001-06-15 11:38:00] - mig: you are for the xbox?! - dewey
[2001-06-15 11:18:00] - too bad the gamecube is coming out sooner. that's going to hurt the xbox a little. - mig
[2001-06-15 11:18:00] - paul: that is why I want to get that too
- dewey[2001-06-15 11:15:00] - http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis/web/vortex/display?slug=homeschool15m&date=20010615 -paul
[2001-06-15 11:14:00] - dewey: The xbox is going to be the best console out there this year in terms of hardware -paul
[2001-06-15 11:10:00] - Xbox is going to be using a geforce3 chip (slightly modified) so directx8 supports it completely.
- dewey[2001-06-15 11:01:00] - Netscape 6.1 is out: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,52564,00.asp - dewey
[2001-06-15 10:51:00] - ati is their top choice, but they say for gaming purposes (what else would you get a good card for?) go with geforce - dewey
[2001-06-15 10:48:00] - that would be a good idea. - mig
[2001-06-15 10:45:00] - so maybe I should hold off and just get it when the prices drop at the end of the summer. - dewey
[2001-06-15 10:44:00] - well gee, lucky me: http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,50184,00.asp - dewey
[2001-06-15 10:43:00] - dave: so the price of $410 on dell's site isn't too bad. I guess I can just pay them for less hassle.
- dewey[2001-06-15 10:40:00] - dewey: it's a matter of debate whether it's worth it to pay the money for the better name -dave
[2001-06-15 10:39:00] - dewey: expect to pay a good bit more for a popular brand -dave
[2001-06-15 10:39:00] - dewey: www.pricewatch.com - apparently $350 is about the lowest. -dave
[2001-06-15 10:38:00] - well, that isn't a price
- dewey[2001-06-15 10:14:00] - ###/pics/download/27.gif
[2001-06-15 10:05:00] - dave: what is a good price for the geforce3? - dewey
[2001-06-15 10:01:00] - ever since 3dfx got killed off. - mig
[2001-06-15 10:00:00] - geforce is pretty much it, yeah. - mig
[2001-06-15 09:56:00] - dave: thanks for your input - dewey
[2001-06-15 09:56:00] - dave: so geforce is the leader now, eh? - dewey
[2001-06-15 09:51:00] - dewey: the kyro 2 is only made by guillemot / hercules (3d prophet 4500) -dave
[2001-06-15 09:49:00] - dewey: so the order from least to greatest (in my opinion) is kyro 2, geforce 2 gts, geforce 3 -dave
[2001-06-15 09:48:00] - dewey: and if price is an issue, the kyro 2 is excellent. it uses new technology to only render the pixels that will be visable, as opposed to other cards that render many pixels that are hidden behind others and you can't see -dave
[2001-06-15 09:47:00] - dewey: if you want to buy a cheaper card, geforce 2 gts would be my pic. the geforce 2 pro is a bit better, but i think the higher cost isnt' worth it -dave
[2001-06-15 09:47:00] - dewey: basically, i think all geforce 3s will be relatively same raw performance -dave
[2001-06-15 09:46:00] - dewey: the benchmarks i saw compared the gainward to asus and some other card. gainward came out tad on top, but they were all bout same -dave
[2001-06-15 09:45:00] - dewey: gainward is also priced lower as far as geforce 3's go. as to if you would want to buy a more well known brand name (shrug) -dave
[2001-06-15 09:44:00] - dewey: the slightly higher gainward version has vivo capability as long as some other plug i don't remember -dave
[2001-06-15 09:44:00] - dewey: the geforce 3 is supposedly what you want to get if you're going to keep your card for 2 years or more -dave
[2001-06-15 09:43:00] - dewey: they don't just use off the shelf mobo's? -dave
[2001-06-15 09:43:00] - mig: i agree! -dave
[2001-06-15 09:43:00] - mig: yeah, but I've heard good things about Dell motherboards, and I like the case they have. their tech support is good too - dewey
[2001-06-15 09:40:00] - that way you know what you're working with instead of their generic hardware. - mig
[2001-06-15 09:39:00] - best way to go is just to get all the parts you need and then build it yourself IMO. i haven't bought a computer from a manufacturer since grade school. - mig
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