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[2001-08-08 14:31:00] - are we meeting at 5:30 or something? - vinnie

[2001-08-08 14:31:00] - i read on a newsgroup somewhere that george lucas traditionally gives his movies a crappy title that he changes later on, so the movie most likely won't be called "attack of the clones".  wish i remember where i had read that, though. - wolf

[2001-08-08 14:30:00] - vinnie: Excellent, I guess we will see you there then -paul

[2001-08-08 14:30:00] - mig: Yeah I thought that was a really funny quote myself. Basically they are saying they don't trust parents to make a decision on how late a child can stay out -paul

[2001-08-08 14:28:00] - 5:45, eh? sounds good to me - vinnie

[2001-08-08 14:26:00] - "Regardless of how mature a parent thinks their child is ... we don't believe a blanket parental discretion is a good tool." my god.  what arrogance. - mig

[2001-08-08 13:54:00] - mwhahahaha, it is blue again. :) - dewey

[2001-08-08 13:53:00] - vinnie, gonna join us? - dewey

[2001-08-08 13:32:00] - http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-0108080254aug08.story?coll=chi%2Dnews%2Dhed I thought this article was very interesting. Especially some of the quotes from people -paul

[2001-08-08 13:29:00] - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,31558,00.html Tennessee legislature rejects calls for implementation of a state income tax -paul

[2001-08-08 13:26:00] - vinnie: Dewey, Travis and I are going to go to the 5:45 showing of Rush Hour 2 at Merrifield theater if you want to join us -paul

[2001-08-08 13:20:00] - I think "The Clone Wars" is sufficiently cheesy, and implies everything that is needed in the title, and yet is significantly better than "When Clones Attack" or whaterver it is. -- Xpovos

[2001-08-08 13:16:00] - if we do rush hour 2 today, i'd have to be 5:30. i can't make 5:15 - vinnie

[2001-08-08 13:11:00] - Discs the size of a quarter?  Sounds like they could get lost very easily. - dewey

[2001-08-08 13:11:00] - it may be 100million dollar cheese, but it's still cheese. no that i don't love little whiney luke and his clan. :-) -jdb

[2001-08-08 13:09:00] - jdb:  yes, but star wars cheese, not b-grade movie cheese. - mig

[2001-08-08 13:05:00] - "attack of the clones," "the empire strikes back"... come on, it's star wars, it's supposed to be cheesy! :-D -jdb

[2001-08-08 13:02:00] - so?  that doesnt justify a retarded sounding movie title.  :-p  -  aba

[2001-08-08 13:01:00] - aba: what is wrong with the title? luke's father and obi-wan fought together in the "clone wars," remember? -jdb

[2001-08-08 12:58:00] - will the cd be replaced as a mass music media format?  http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5095272,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1tp02    -  aba

[2001-08-08 12:51:00] - Signed it. -- Xpovos

[2001-08-08 12:41:00] - http://www.petitiononline.com/aotc/petition.html    i urge all of you to sign this petition  ;)  -  aba

[2001-08-08 12:39:00] - actually, in the POA case, it's actually a novel based on a screenplay based on a screenplay based on a novel. - mig

[2001-08-08 12:30:00] - http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2001/08/08/apes/index.html      this is pretty pathetic  -  aba

[2001-08-08 12:05:00] - http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/H021961.PDF if this wasn't an actual court ruling, it would be rather amusing. - mig

[2001-08-08 11:52:00] - http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6808196.html make sure you read up on laws in all 50 states before you publish a web site. - img

[2001-08-08 11:41:00] - if this helps independants, i can't see it as any other than a good thing. - mig

[2001-08-08 11:39:00] - the reason third parties have problems is that people always think in terms of the "2 big parties" - mig

[2001-08-08 11:36:00] - a:  you're assuming that the democrats are a better alternative. - mig

[2001-08-08 11:25:00] - i like to eat cake  =-o  -  aba

[2001-08-08 10:33:00] - yay cake  ~a

[2001-08-08 10:27:00] - aba: is that anything like cnn on crack? :-D - dewey

[2001-08-08 10:16:00] - http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/07/cake/index.html    cnn on cake  -  aba

[2001-08-08 10:07:00] - a: Then you are right. Democrats being in disarray is a bad thing -paul

[2001-08-08 10:03:00] - paul: i like talking to myself.  ~a

[2001-08-08 09:50:00] - and if you want a cheap fuel efficient car thats built kind of like a tank, go buy a volkswagon.  -  aba

[2001-08-08 09:43:00] - if you want a fuel-efficient car that's built like a tank, just go get a volvo. - mig

[2001-08-08 09:37:00] - http://www.frontpagemag.com/guestcolumnists/bray08-08-01.htm Does increasing fuel efficiency make cars less safe? -paul

[2001-08-08 09:31:00] - a: That depends on who you talk to -paul

[2001-08-08 09:29:00] - although i think a third pary is cool and all, the more democrats that "flock to the independants," the more power the republicans will have.  and that woulnd't be very good, would it?  ~a

[2001-08-08 09:28:00] - http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/slipsky/?id=95000934 This one is for Andrew. It's about world population growth and attempts to slow it down -paul

[2001-08-08 09:20:00] - this actually might be good that the democrats are in dissarray.  it might encourage people to flock to the independants. - mi

[2001-08-08 09:12:00] - http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/08/1253229&mode=thread afraid of getting caught downloading porn at work?  fear no more!  oh wait, i mean, fear a little less. - mig

[2001-08-08 09:09:00] - http://www.wnd.com/frame/direct.asp?SITE=www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2001-08-07-gore.htm Will Gore run again in 2004? -paul

[2001-08-08 09:06:00] - http://www.wnd.com/frame/direct.asp?SITE=www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2001-08-07-democrats.htm Does the democratic party have a leader? -paul

[2001-08-08 08:57:00] - only the ones who don't put out :-p - dewey

[2001-08-08 08:57:00] - :) - dewey

[2001-08-08 08:53:00] - dewey: Misogynist -paul

[2001-08-08 08:49:00] - Who wants to see Rush Hour 2 today?  http://aparna.dhs.org/?a=0&d=10 - dewey

[2001-08-08 08:48:00] - everyone: That was a joke.  I wonder what political stance that would be though? - dewey

[2001-08-08 08:48:00] - exactly- I think the issue here is that women need to learn to enjoy themselves. - dewey

[2001-08-08 08:40:00] - dewey: Then it's not rape -paul

[2001-08-08 08:38:00] - I think a more revealing statistic might be who suggested and initiated sexual contact.  I think many people would be surprised at the result.  Just men never report being raped because they ... well don't really care usually. - dewey

[2001-08-08 08:37:00] - "Education has to start with men because 99 percent of all rapes are committed by male perpetrators," Lorah said.  Well duh- If it was possible to rape the willing, then the statistic might be different. - dewey

[2001-08-08 08:34:00] - that's awful :) - vinnie

[2001-08-08 08:33:00] - vinnie: No word on whether women are being informed that they are "wiping the power to prevent unwanted pregnancies." (Words from the newsletter I got the link from, not my own words) -paul

[2001-08-08 08:32:00] - seriously though, that's a pretty clever campaign and slogan. who knows if it will work though - vinnie

[2001-08-08 08:31:00] - paul: i piss on your message of anti-rape :) - vinnie

[2001-08-08 08:29:00] - "Niles went on to say that, if necessary, Intel would impose another round of price cuts ranging from 10 percent to 25 percent on October 28th" -dave

[2001-08-08 08:28:00] - lower prices, hurray! "Intel will slash the price of its 1.8 GHz Pentium 4 chip from $562 to $260 on August 26th. He also predicted that the price of the company's next-fastest chip, which runs at 1.7 GHz, will fall from $352 to $193 on the same day. " -dave

[2001-08-08 08:28:00] - http://www.indian-express.com/ie20010804/top7.html Interesting case regarding abortion and the gender of the fetus -paul

[2001-08-08 08:26:00] - http://news.excite.com/news/uw/010725/politics-104 Penn State uses urinals for anti-rape message -paul

[2001-08-08 07:56:00] - i fixed the overwrite problem some people were having with ftp.  you now have overwrite permission.  ~a

[2001-08-08 02:37:00] - http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/local/34242_green07.shtml <-- i wonder if this ever happens with libertarians and say.. democrats (to take away republican votes) -jdb

[2001-08-08 01:32:00] - distributing public keys and keeping control of your own private keys would be a lot more fun. i like how i can use public keys on my ssh accounts to simplify access. -jdb

[2001-08-08 01:28:00] - i really, sincerely hope this whole "universal login" thing does not catch on.  come on kids, let's make everyone have one login/password for absolutely everything.  don't you feel safe? - mig

[2001-08-08 01:20:00] - http://www.bobandtom.com/frames/1galleries/davincis_notebook/embed1.htm

[2001-08-08 01:20:00] - "AOL members are automatically enrolled."  sounds like we've been drafted folks.  ~a

[2001-08-08 01:04:00] - http://www.aol.com/snsinformation/main.adp oh please god no. - mig

[2001-08-08 00:54:00] - miguel, that is when you tell him to fuck off.  ~a

[2001-08-08 00:42:00] - i thought so too, i'm just unsure what they're trying to say. - mig

[2001-08-08 00:37:00] - more like social commentary, methinks. -jdb

[2001-08-08 00:19:00] - Are those supposed to be funny? -- Xpovos

[2001-08-07 23:30:00] - http://www.oxygen.com/read/archive/cartoon/000614cartoon.html

[2001-08-07 23:27:00] - http://oxygen.com/read/archive/cartoon/000719cartoon.html

[2001-08-07 22:54:00] - that dmitry guy that was released. here is one of his company's other great products: http://www.mailutilities.com/aee/ -jdb

[2001-08-07 19:11:00] - boy my mom is pissed about it. - mig

[2001-08-07 19:08:00] - correction, he wanted it reduced by 30k. - mig

[2001-08-07 19:04:00] - i can't believe this guy who came to our house today.  he wanted to buy it, but he wanted us to buy a new stove, refridgerator, replace the countertop, replace all the carpeting on the 1st floor, and lower the price of the house by 20k. - mig

[2001-08-07 18:45:00] - aaron:  they're doing the same thing now, except that they're doing things like adding to them, instead of just ripping off games from one another.  it's a very rare occurrence when a truly unique game comes out these days. - mig

[2001-08-07 18:41:00] - jdb:  depends heavily on what is exactly being borrowed. - mig

[2001-08-07 18:31:00] - mig: There were tons of companies back in the 80's which would take popular games (pac man, mr do) and change the name or the copyright symbol, and then sell the romsets... Which was perfectly legal in some countries... So I mean, there are plenty of other people who share your viewpoint - aaron

[2001-08-07 18:20:00] - mig: where do you draw the line? -jdb

[2001-08-07 18:11:00] - either way, i don't support taking someone else's ideas, doing literraly nothing to them, and then saying that they are yours.  but i see nothing wrong with taking small parts of one's idea and incorporating them into something you make. - mig

[2001-08-07 18:04:00] - virtually every single game released today borrows a lot from games the come before it.  it's just the way it is. - mig

[2001-08-07 18:03:00] - people copy game ideas all the time, aaron. - mig

[2001-08-07 17:46:00] - the mix of copyrights and capitalism is essential, it seems...  *shrug* -jdb

[2001-08-07 17:35:00] - mig: Why should I waste my time trying to come up with the next great puzzle game, when I can just wait for someone else to come up with it, and then copy their idea? - aaron

[2001-08-07 17:34:00] - mig: Okay, so if you throw copyright out the window, then what's the point of innovation? Or do you not believe in capitalism, either? - aaron

[2001-08-07 17:22:00] - moving to more serious issues... should medicine be patented? one could argue that by doing so, companies inadvertently deny patients' right to life, etc. but the other side of the coin, is how can companies recupperate their R&D-type costs (if they don't have patents)? -jdb

[2001-08-07 17:18:00] - and = any - mig

[2001-08-07 17:16:00] - as far as patents are concerned, there are just some things that shouldn't be patented(i.e. and kind of software related idea). - mig

[2001-08-07 17:14:00] - i take that back.  a very limited form of trademark serves some purpose. - mig

[2001-08-07 17:12:00] - not particularly. i believe more in copyleft.  as far as i'm concerned, trademark serves no purpose. - mig

[2001-08-07 17:06:00] - mig: do you believe in any sort of trademark/copyright/etc.? -jdb

[2001-08-07 16:43:00] - http://www.netbsd.org/Letters/20010803-dolby.html *sigh* when it rains, it pours. - mig

[2001-08-07 16:32:00] - wolf:  point conceded.  i'll have to remind myself to stop using that word from now on. - mig

[2001-08-07 16:27:00] - http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?function=view&record=15 of course the other reason i am against hate crimes is the implications for free speech, as touched upon here. - mig

[2001-08-07 16:25:00] - .... no discrimination is going on. it's like saying "can't not". - wolf

[2001-08-07 16:24:00] - re: reverse discrimination... that's a meaningless word.  if someone treats someone a particular way because he's black, it's discrimination.  if someone treats someone a particular way because he's white, it's discrimination.  "reverse" or "anti" discrimination would mean that...

[2001-08-07 16:24:00] - even then, the end result is the same.  both person a and b's victims are dead, and both of them will get life in prison or death penalty. - mig

[2001-08-07 16:19:00] - let me ask you this:  person a tortures a man to death simply because he's malicious.  person b just shoots a man dead because he's black.  who do you think is worse? - mig

[2001-08-07 16:17:00] - aba: i believe that how you did it is more important then why.  - mig

[2001-08-07 16:12:00] - speaking of "whether he's likely to do it again".  aren't we a country of "innocent until proven guilty."  once he's done his time, leave the guy alone until he commits another crime. - mig

[2001-08-07 16:09:00] - or how about fraud?  fraud is not violent. - mig

[2001-08-07 16:08:00] - while i agree that there are many, many things that should not be crimes. - mig

[2001-08-07 16:07:00] - xpovos:  i'm not really sure we should make all "non-violent" crimes legal.  what about stuff like stealing.  you can steal without being violent. - mig

[2001-08-07 16:04:00] - jdb:  2 things "kill by accident" != murder and the text file did specifically take into account the people who are dependant on social security already. - mig

[2001-08-07 15:35:00] - and so you once again have unequal protection under the law.  Hate legislation is bad. - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:34:00] - no one will ever see the death of a white boy as racist. - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:31:00] - but read this first: http://www.salon.com/news/col/horo/2000/10/30/race/index.html around the sixth paragraph. - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:30:00] - me too - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:29:00] - anyway, i have to go do work now.  :-\  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:29:00] - um, no, no one law will reform the entire justice system.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:28:00] - so tougher laws against only hate crimes is going to reform our criminals into what?  polite murders of gays and minorities? - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:27:00] - i have faith that when confronted with case of a white person brutally beaten to death by black people for the color of their skin, a jury will see that it is a hate crime.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:26:00] - criminals can be reformed, but they get 3 square meals a day and extended cable and creature comforts in prison.  but I digress. - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:25:00] - but what jury is going to consider anything a hate crime if it isn't against a minority? - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:25:00] - bleh.  you dont think that criminals can be reformed.  that is the difference.  that is why it matters to me whether or not a person is likely to commit that crime again under normal (unreformed) circumstances.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:24:00] - aba: it isn't, I was going off on a tangent (it sort of relates). - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:23:00] - dewey:  i dont think you understand my point.  just because it protects gays from being attacked because of their orientation doesnt mean that it wont protect heterosexuals from being attacked for their orientation.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:22:00] - aba: and I say that it shouldn't matter why you did it, just how you did it.  If you commit a crime to get money for drugs, does that make it any different than if you did it for lust? - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:21:00] - dewey:  how is it reverse discrimination?  you havent explained that to me yet.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:21:00] - vinnie: no I didn't.  It was in response to aba's message about today's society. - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:21:00] - dewey:  how many times do i have to say that hate crime legislation would ideally not be designed to protect one specific group of people.  it would be designed to protect people from being attacked for their race or gender or creed.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:20:00] - reverse discrimination is bad. - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:20:00] - yes, i understand. but what does it have to do with anything? you just brought it up out of the blue - vinnie

[2001-08-07 15:20:00] - paul is gonna kick not-paul's ass! -- Xpovos

[2001-08-07 15:18:00] - reparations: making up for past regressions.  Like affirmative action.  Making it harsher to kill Gays because they are picked on right now. - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:17:00] - heh, really? well, a shame to steal his 5000th post then - vinnie

[2001-08-07 15:17:00] - i am not paul. - paul

[2001-08-07 15:16:00] - working in customer service makes me want to throw my phone out the window.  >:o  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:14:00] - well, i did understand andrew's until the legalize non-violent crimes part - vinnie

[2001-08-07 15:13:00] - um, yeah. i didn't understand dewey or xpovos's last posts - vinnie

[2001-08-07 15:12:00] - you guys need to explain what you say better.  :-[  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:11:00] - reparations?  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:11:00] - "how about a little less questions and a little more shut the hell up"

[2001-08-07 15:11:00] - well, I think the legal system should be tailored for an ideal situation then.  When we do all this 'reparations' stuff is when things get all screwed up. - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:09:00] - legalize non violent crimes?  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:06:00] - aba: if hate crimes apply to everybody, then what's the point in special hate-crime legislation, just change the prosecution procedures for all violent crimes.  Why not legalize non violent crimes while you're at it? -- Xpovos

[2001-08-07 15:01:00] - it is just that in todays society, gays are targeted for their sexuality while heterosexuals are not.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:01:00] - that is a different argument, one which I got yelled at for in AP Gov class when we had our mock congress.  I can go into that later if you want.  Needless to say, everyone laughed at my radical suggestion, just like all true elightened people are.  The argument here is about hate crime. - dewey

[2001-08-07 15:00:00] - under ideal circumstances hate crime legislation would apply to everybody.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 15:00:00] - it shouldnt matter who you are premediating to kill it should matter that you are premediating to kill.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 14:59:00] - but seriously, why should it matter if you premeditate to kill a gay/lesbian/transexual or if you premeditate to kill a heterosexual? - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:58:00] - dewey:  you dont believe in reforming a person?  once you commit a crime you are forever branded?  -  aba

[2001-08-07 14:57:00] - if you ask me what the root of all this evil is... well I would say it is the Catholic church. :-p  They are just full of so much fear, and as we all know: fear leads to hatred, and hatred leads to the dark side. - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:56:00] - *cough*dubya*cough*.  :-d    some people may believe it but evidence points in the other direction.  i am just trying to say that usually a multifaceted attack yields the best results.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 14:56:00] - Yes, we should be proactive in combatting our disgusting society and it's stupid hatreds.  But the justice system isn't the place.  The justic system is where you are punished for your crimes against the society. - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:55:00] - aba: which, unfortunately, some people do believe :) - vinnie

[2001-08-07 14:51:00] - eh, dewey, thats like saying abstinence only courses are the only way to reduce teen pregnancies.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 14:50:00] - prevention is achieved by deterents - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:49:00] - prevention is achieved by deterents

[2001-08-07 14:47:00] - um, or you could go to that extreme :) - vinnie

[2001-08-07 14:47:00] - bleh.  man, i dont want to even think about the death penalty.  its about as low as a society can sink.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 14:47:00] - dewey: it matters in as much as prevention is concerned - vinnie

[2001-08-07 14:46:00] - if the punishment for murder was death, then we wouldn't have to worry about whether they will do it again or not. - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:44:00] - if you take any given person there will almost always be some set of circumstances where they will be almost 100% likely to kill.  it is how often those circumstances occur that should effect our criminal justice system.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 14:44:00] - you = bad guy

[2001-08-07 14:44:00] - and why should it matter if you will do it again?  You have already committed an atrocity against our citizenship.  you should burn! - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:43:00] - xpovos:  you are not looking at the probability of those circumstances occuring.  that is also what counts heavily here.  if i am only going to kill if the life of my family is threatened, then i really am not as dangerous as someone who will kill any gay person they see.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 14:43:00] - then why are all these crazy people getting off? They have a random chance of committing it again, whereas a sane person would feel guilt and remorse? - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:42:00] - they're = there's

[2001-08-07 14:41:00] - because they're a slim chance the same situation will arise - vinnie

[2001-08-07 14:41:00] - i think i can agree with that. but like you said, we probably don't need to watch him as much as we would a person how killed some random homosexual - vinnie

[2001-08-07 14:38:00] - O.J. will never find himself in his circumstance for killing again because he killed his wife too, and no sane woman is going to marry him now.  End result is that though he's probably 100% likely to kill again under those circumstances, he never will get the chance. -- Xpovos

[2001-08-07 14:37:00] - i'm agreeing with aaron, btw. i'm not sure if race, sexual orientation, etc. should affect punishment, but intent is a good way to decide if someone will likely kill again - vinnie

[2001-08-07 14:36:00] - yeah, the best example i can give is oj. what are the chances that oj simpson will commit another murder (assuming he did commit the first one)? virtually nil, because he had a singular purpose in mind for the first one. plus the fact that the negative publicity hurts - vinnie

[2001-08-07 14:31:00] - aaron: sure they are, they're both 100% likely to kill as soon as their circumstances are met. -- Xpovos

[2001-08-07 14:30:00] - xpovos: You're being ridiculous. A man is not going to discover people cheating with his wife more often then he's going to meet black people. I think I'm going to go buy a game boy advance now, but you can keep talking if you think it will somehow help your argument - aaron

[2001-08-07 14:29:00] - xpovos: No, they're not. If "Person A" kills only under extreme circumstances, like discovering adultery or whatever... and "person b" is found to kill just because he finds out people are gay, or whatever... Then they're not just as likely to kill again, I think - aaron

[2001-08-07 14:29:00] - aaron: I still don't see it, they're both murdering under specific circumstances.  One when he catches a man with his wife, the other when he sees a black person.  Same deal in the long run.  There are probably more adulterers than blacks too -- Xpovos

[2001-08-07 14:27:00] - I guess what I'm trying to say is that a person who murders another person because of specific circumstances would be less dangerous than a person who's murdering just because, you know, he doesn't like some person's race/religion/sexuality.... so they should be sentenced differently - aaron

[2001-08-07 14:27:00] - what about the person that kills by accident? -jdb

[2001-08-07 14:27:00] - aaron: really? Why, they're both just as likely to kill again -- Xpovos

[2001-08-07 14:25:00] - I think that motivation should affect the penalty for a murder... A person who kills another person just because of his skin color, for example, seems more dangerous than a person who kills because, say, he caught another person sleeping with his wife... - aaron

[2001-08-07 14:15:00] - I see nothing wrong with the attorney portraying it as a hate crime to prove motivation and planning, but it should still be the same penalty for murder 1, no matter who the victim was. - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:14:00] - no, but I will admit that is how people slip through the cracks- they play dumb and pretend it was an accident. - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:12:00] - the lady of justice is blindfolded for a very good reason. - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:12:00] - dewey: so should accidental killings be treated the same as carefull calculated ones? -jdb

[2001-08-07 14:11:00] - And who is to judge what someone was thinking when they did something?  you get too much personal feelings into the Justice system, and it isn't justice anymore. - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:09:00] - and what jury are you going to find that thinks that a crime against a white man is a hate crime? - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:08:00] - aba: why should they?  Who the hell cares about why they did it?  They still did it. - dewey

[2001-08-07 14:07:00] - i dont understand how you think that it makes the lives of certain types of people less valuable.  it is only saying that crimes that are committed because of race, gender, religion, etc should carry stiffer penalties.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 14:05:00] - uh, a black person killing a white person simply because of the color of their skin is still a hate crime.  hate crime legislation only differentiates between the intent of the crime.  -  aba

[2001-08-07 14:00:00] - mig: that still doesn't say how current users will be taken off of social security. what will happen to my 80 year old grandmother? -jdb

[2001-08-07 13:39:00] - paul: sorry, someone came into my office and i had to help them -dave

[2001-08-07 13:36:00] - I just love how people think it is a great injustice to discriminate against blacks and gays, but it is just fine to make the life of a heterosexual white male less valuable than that of a gay males. >:o - dewey

[2001-08-07 13:29:00] - oh wait... so then why classify certain crimes as such?  we should just make the punishment for murder greater, not just certain murders. - dewey

[2001-08-07 13:28:00] - aba: good question, since all crime is motivated by some sort of hatred.  Whether it be hatred against the victim or hatred of not having enough money.  I agree, all crimes are hate crimes. - dewey

[2001-08-07 13:15:00] - http://www.reporternews.com/opinion/hate1107.html

[2001-08-07 12:32:00] - http://www.rainbownetwork.com/content/NewsLife.asp?newsid=2038    how can this *not* be classified as a hate crime???  -  aba

[2001-08-07 12:13:00] - jdb: http://mickeyj.dhs.org/ss.txt earlier you asked about a good solution for getting rid of social security.  how about this? - mig

[2001-08-07 12:11:00] - paul:  why arent you making a 5000th post?  -  aba

[2001-08-07 11:48:00] - as paul asked me earlier that could have probably been the one thing that could have redeemed adobe in my eyes. - mig

[2001-08-07 11:42:00] - http://iwsun4.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/08/06/010806hnmcafee.xml?0807tuam amazon's stupidity spreads - mig

[2001-08-07 11:40:00] - at least if they paid maybe a little bit of it, the gesture for asking him to be released would have at least been sincere. - mig

[2001-08-07 11:39:00] - personally, i feel they should pay up because they were the ones who got the feds involved, and now they're trying to make themselves out to be the good guys by saying that he should be free. - mig

[2001-08-07 11:30:00] - mig: why should adobe pay his bail? -jdb

[2001-08-07 11:20:00] - haha. adobe's pretty funny. "we're responsible for him being in jail, and we want him to be free, but we're not going to pay one cent for his bail." - mig

[2001-08-07 09:32:00] - Just call me 'sir link-a-lot' :-p - dewey

[2001-08-07 09:32:00] - and http://movies.adcritic.com/content/movie-harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone.html - dewey

[2001-08-07 09:31:00] - super yay http://movies.adcritic.com/content/movie-harry-potter.html - dewey

[2001-08-07 09:31:00] - yay http://movies.adcritic.com/content/movie-lord-of-the-rings-fellowship-of-the-ring.html - dewey

[2001-08-07 09:22:00] - they look very similar, but no, thankfully they aren't. the one in pleasantville is toby maguire - vinnie

[2001-08-07 09:16:00] - vinnie: aw shucks. ;-)  Is that the same guy from Pleasentville that is in Bubble boy? - dewey

[2001-08-07 09:14:00] - dewey: haha, nice try. unfortunately for you, the filename gave it away before it finished loading - vinnie

[2001-08-07 09:09:00] - dewey:  yes, and no it doesnt.  :)  -  aba

[2001-08-07 08:45:00] - Dude, did you know you can apply a template to webmail?  The hokie portal template looks much better. - dewey

[2001-08-07 08:37:00] - Vinnie: Click this link. http://a928.g.akamai.net/5/928/51/b49d3cc401a64f/1a1a1aaa2198c627970773d80669d84574a8d80d3cb12453c02589f25382f668c9329e0375e8178bfa6fd23aad2190fe6392f469cb2d99f - dewey

[2001-08-07 08:34:00] - http://www.adcritic.com/content/microsoft-xp-password-protected-bra-de.html  is this supposed to be a benifit? - dewey

[2001-08-07 08:25:00] - "war of the clones" would make a better title. "attack of the clones" sounds like a 50's b-movie. i remember thinking "the phantom menace" was a pretty lame name also at the time, but now it seems ok - vinnie

[2001-08-07 08:19:00] - wow, posts can take up to 3 lines now? -dave

[2001-08-07 08:19:00] - "Russian Developer Dmitry Sklyarov...was released from jail earlier today on US $50,000 bond. Although several groups had pressured Adobe to put up the bail money as redress for its original role in Sklyarov's arrest, the funds were posted by his employer, Moscow-based ElcomSoft" -dave

[2001-08-07 08:16:00] - both amd and intel support intel's new tech that will replace pci slots....Arapahoe slots -dave

[2001-08-07 08:12:00] - mig: and i think the speedtraps a tad too much as well.  you don't even get points on your license for the tickets (since someone else could be driving your car). so it's purely money -dave

[2001-08-07 08:12:00] - mig: yeah, doesn't seem like a very good title -dave

[2001-08-07 08:09:00] - nvidia nforce preview: http://www.sourcemagazine.com/csm/Forum3/HTML/000037.html -dave

[2001-08-07 08:03:00] - yeah, you lazy bum!  write a journal!!!

[2001-08-07 08:03:00] - a: heh, how funny is this.  after stating how Cox hasn't been that bad to me, my internet connection was shitty all yesterday and still today.  can't finish any internet connection.  It gets the DNS and connects but then craps out. :-( - dewey

[2001-08-07 07:57:00] - write a journal

[2001-08-07 02:18:00] - well, it's not profitable to go after anyone else, duh :-/ - boing

[2001-08-06 22:59:00] - ugh.  that really blows.  have you ever noticed that the only people that the "trademark protectors" go after are the ones who aren't capable of legally defending themselves financially? - mig

[2001-08-06 22:36:00] - MGM feels this game capitalizes too much on its trademarked character, and frankly we're in no financial position to argue with them.

[2001-08-06 22:36:00] - "One of the most successful Cheapass Card Games to date, Before I Kill You, Mister Bond..., will be going out of print on August 31, 2001." - aaron

[2001-08-06 21:57:00] - episode ii i mean. - mig

[2001-08-06 21:56:00] - the official title for star wars episode will be, get this:  attack of the clones. - mig

[2001-08-06 20:28:00] - also, i am very skeptical about the accuracy of getting your speed right. - mig

[2001-08-06 20:26:00] - speed cameras - bad.  it's bad enough you have to keep your eye on the speedometer in known speed traps(which probably would cause accidents.) - mig

[2001-08-06 19:26:00] - hehe, i used to have a `leet fvwm2 setup...  :-D -jdb

[2001-08-06 19:23:00] - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010806/tc/tech_hacker_dc_8.html yay. not quite there yet, but it's a start. - mig

[2001-08-06 19:17:00] - fvwm2! fvwm2! rah rah rah!  ~a

[2001-08-06 19:04:00] - jdb:  i figured it would be.  i just think xp is not worth selling my soul to bill gates. - mig

[2001-08-06 18:43:00] - i finally got around to installing Windows XP. i won't say that i am a windows fan or anything, but this is a huge improvement over 2k. much easier to use and i like how things are laid out, etc. a lot more. -jdb

[2001-08-06 16:58:00] - d2 people: on your d2x cd, run d2com_01.exe .  it's your very own copy of the d2 commercial blizzard never released :) it's been on blizzard's site for awhile, but it's still amusing every time. - wolf

[2001-08-06 16:41:00] - a congressman said: "said Friday that while Congress has oversight on District affairs, city residents should decide whether they want "electronic spying." He said he has seen no evidence that the programs increase traffic safety" -dave

[2001-08-06 16:40:00] - lockheed martin footed the $100k bills for each camera, but gets $29 for each ticket they give. -dave

[2001-08-06 16:39:00] - speeding ticket cameras good or bad? -dave

[2001-08-06 16:39:00] - "In the 3300 block of East Capitol Street, 75 percent of westbound drivers exceeded the speed limit by at least 11 mph while the cameras were on" -dave

[2001-08-06 16:38:00] - "578 drivers blew past the 25-mph sign on MacArthur Boulevard NW in a two-hour period soon after the city's newest traffic enforcement cameras began clicking. That's about one speeding car every 12 seconds." -dave

[2001-08-06 15:56:00] - paul:  one more post!  -  aba

[2001-08-06 14:28:00] - http://www.charlotte.com/observer/0806retail.htm    results of an ikea survey on the correlation between dorm room furniture and student behaviour.  -  aba

[2001-08-06 14:09:00] - a site that lists the probability that monsters in d2 will drop a certain item. pretty interesting: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/d2/ -dave

[2001-08-06 14:02:00] - http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal08030103.html      portugal decriminalizes drugs.  -  aba

[2001-08-06 13:59:00] - http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20010803/capt.spain_gore_mad102.jpg      *scary* picture  -  aba

[2001-08-06 13:13:00] - vinnie: corner room! cool - dewey

[2001-08-06 12:09:00] - and incidentally, aaron and i have a corner room. pretty sweet as far as lee is concerned - vinnie

[2001-08-06 12:09:00] - dave: hooray, that version worked. no clue why it didn't at the other place - vinnie

[2001-08-06 12:06:00] - dewey: or you could just setup some bookmarklets ;-) -jdb

[2001-08-06 12:04:00] - or maybe he could get rid of all of these input boxes and move to a single input box? -jdb

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