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[2001-09-15 01:32:00] - a:  silly boy, he using enums. - mig

[2001-09-15 01:13:00] - lots of great wtc infographics http://www.nixlog.com/infographics/ -jdb

[2001-09-15 01:03:00] - and don't say psudo code!  >:o  ~a

[2001-09-15 01:03:00] - what language allows direct comparison of strings with != ?  ~a

[2001-09-15 00:34:00] - it would seem that his opinion is that, for all n where n != Jerry Falwell, n is a mass murderer - boing

[2001-09-15 00:33:00] - "I would never blame any human being except the terrorists" != "I point the finger in [gay people, feminists, nonreligious people]'s face and say 'you helped this happen.'" - boing

[2001-09-14 22:54:00] - hmph.  not much of an apology. - mig

[2001-09-14 22:45:00] - fallwell apologizes http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/14/Falwell.apology/

[2001-09-14 20:13:00] - duh!

[2001-09-14 19:36:00] - i'm gay.  ~a

[2001-09-14 19:04:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46852,00.html everyone pray this is just a backlash, and that congress will come to their senses soon.  this coupled with the encryption thing is a very bad combination indeed. - mig

[2001-09-14 14:57:00] - interesting article

[2001-09-14 14:32:00] - http://mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=778&FS=Creating+Economic+Crimes -logan

[2001-09-14 14:27:00] - haha... yeah basically

[2001-09-14 12:41:00] - i think the appropriate response to jerry falwell is fuck you.

[2001-09-14 12:27:00] - http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=692&sd=09/14/01 -logan

[2001-09-14 12:26:00] - http://aparna.dhs.org/bfmcd.pdf    <--  merrill lynchs statement to their customers about what happened    -  aba

[2001-09-14 12:16:00] - frisbee at 1pm saturday.  im me if you want to come.  ~a

[2001-09-14 11:38:00] - people who are aware enough to know about foreign policy, people who have thought about these things and decided where they stand are definitely not ignorant... I guess I gave the original author more credit than the respondant... that when he said ignorant he meant ignorant...-cryptic

[2001-09-14 11:36:00] - heh.... the response... I think the audience he speaks to already is aware of what he writes.... -cryptic

[2001-09-14 11:29:00] - stat /bin/laden

[2001-09-14 10:54:00] - http://www.collegiatetimes.com/local/headlines/viewHeadlines.asp?cityID=12858&headlineID=641

[2001-09-14 10:46:00] - http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/170072.html

[2001-09-14 10:40:00] - chmod a+x /bin/laden

[2001-09-14 10:28:00] - http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?q=Y&a=tpc&s=50009562&f=34709834&m=4640913172&p=1 -dave

[2001-09-14 09:46:00] - http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/14/airport.securitybreach.ap/ hmm... at least they're testing themselves. - mig

[2001-09-14 09:04:00] - @@@/dvorak.html  ~a

[2001-09-14 09:04:00] - i just thought it was weird since both typos would make sense on the dvorak keyboard.  ~a

[2001-09-14 09:01:00] - nope... I use a normal keyboard... so switching the o and the a in words is either my brain messing up or my fingers not understanding... -cryptic

[2001-09-14 08:56:00] - cryptic:  you use dvorak?  the a is next to the o and the t is next to the c.  ~a

[2001-09-14 02:25:00] - and now it's the name of the congressman who is supporting the abolishment of real privacy.... hmmmm - boing

[2001-09-14 02:05:00] - regarding the encryption thing, wasn't gregg the name of the bill-gates-esque character who put monitoring software in software programs in the net? - boing

[2001-09-14 00:53:00] - http://www.corndesigns.com/mw/newwtc.jpg

[2001-09-13 23:57:00] - well, what would be the point of encryption if this law passes, so if it does, we might as well not waste the money on it. what's sad and pathetic is that it does nothing to stop terrorists from using it. - mig

[2001-09-13 23:55:00] - maybe we should do away with encryption entirely....=Þ

[2001-09-13 23:48:00] - even if that back door was only meant for government use, and it was only being used where "appropriate", i can guarantee you that someone else will find that backdoor. - mig

[2001-09-13 23:47:00] - it just amazes me after all this time how still technoligically illiterate these politicians are.  do they even realize how dangerous it is to have an automatic back door in an encryption program? - mig

[2001-09-13 23:41:00] - errr... make that politicians... atleast i didn't resort to my famous a/o switch typo... don't ask me how I do those

[2001-09-13 23:39:00] - lots of people used it and will use it to their ends... the fbi with their servers to collect data, extremists pushing their religion on you, polititians... uh they are always trying to push something... people are people... and people are jerks -cryptic

[2001-09-13 23:37:00] - yeah, I have to stay home tomorrow for the guys to come in and install cameras into my apartment as well as a key logger onto my computer...

[2001-09-13 23:37:00] - it sickens me how they use tragedies like this for their own sick ends.

[2001-09-13 23:34:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46816,00.html this spits on the graves of all who died on tuesday.

[2001-09-13 23:30:00] - also: sometimes the majority is not right.... for example slavery, separate but equal, women should cook clean and not be heard, etc.... sometimes enlightenment is found through imposing... -cryptic

[2001-09-13 23:28:00] - I think there's a sharp difference from "not being patriotic" and being completely utterly ignorant..... beating people up, "don't be angry, you may be drafted", "muslims should have their rights revoked", or feeling nothing at all.. are examples of said ignorance. -cryptic

[2001-09-13 23:25:00] - 'democracy' is one of those empty words that has been so misused that it doesn't mean anything. like 'ignorant' or anything written in a high-school litmag. - wolf

[2001-09-13 23:21:00] - although, actually if it does happen, it'd be preferable to hear about it so not to be ignorant of the truth (people are dumb) and thus be able to work to change that... -cryptic

[2001-09-13 23:20:00] - as for the "other issues at hand?" it would be refering to the ignorance of some people.... I guess I didnt make it clear by saying "ignorant people going around and beating up people with origins in the middle-east" I should have added "or other ignorant people" -cryptic

[2001-09-13 23:19:00] - imposing is not.... altough enlightening and education is.... the current government imposes... but it's justified in their eyes and american's eyes because democracy is supposed to be the great equalizer... -cryptic

[2001-09-13 22:58:00] - Is it democracy to impose your beliefs on other nations? -logan

[2001-09-13 22:36:00] - guess i'm an enemy of democracy.  great. - mig

[2001-09-13 22:35:00] - if you actually want "dangerous ideas", i heard madaline albright speak about this and she said:  "the only people who say this is a result of american foreign policy are the enemies of democracy." - mig

[2001-09-13 22:29:00] - i already heard someone call harry browne's blurb 'repugnent'. - mig

[2001-09-13 21:24:00] - nyc skyline, before and after http://news.excite.com/photo/img/ap/terrorist/attacks/20010912/ny194?r=/photo/topic/news -jdb

[2001-09-13 21:22:00] - "He told me that he wanted to sell the stuff on EBay. I couldn't believe it. It made me so angry, I slugged him."  http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000073609sep12.story?coll=la-news-a_section -jdb

[2001-09-13 21:14:00] - http://www.spaceimaging.com/ikonos/manhattan_before_psh.jpg <-- amazing 3 meg photo of before the tragedy. -jdb

[2001-09-13 21:08:00] - Other issues at hand? -logan

[2001-09-13 21:01:00] - I'd think you could atleast read through the patriotic dribble and see the other issues at hand... by this time in your life.

[2001-09-13 20:58:00] - I dont want to hear about ignorant people going around and beating up people with origins in the middle-east... do you? those people need to rethink what they are doing -cryptic

[2001-09-13 20:57:00] - heh, well yes the author has some issues that I disagree with, but the overall statement that some people need to rethink what they are doing is something I agree with -cryptic

[2001-09-13 20:54:00] - write editorials! -jdb

[2001-09-13 20:46:00] - Yeah, anyone that's not fully and completely mindlessly "patriotic" at a time like this is "ignorant" and "callous." -logan

[2001-09-13 20:38:00] - i just saw "the closet" at the lyric... great movie! -jdb

[2001-09-13 20:26:00] - yes... no description

[2001-09-13 20:25:00] - http://www.collegiatetimes.com/local/headlines/viewHeadlines.asp?cityID=12858&headlineID=619

[2001-09-13 20:19:00] - time to do homework... fun fun fun

[2001-09-13 20:19:00] - a person can be smart... but people are dumb -cryptic

[2001-09-13 20:19:00] - first link didn't work.... and are you suprised? I hope not... -cryptic

[2001-09-13 18:59:00] - People are so stupid that it's funny: http://static.stileproject.com/rnd/img/wap3.jpg , http://dailynews.philly.com/content/daily%5Fnews/2001/09/13/local/DEVI13C.htm -logan

[2001-09-13 17:33:00] - who lives in the library? -cryptic

[2001-09-13 17:28:00] - for those of you that live in the library or don't have a tv --> irc.slashdot.org #cnn_mjd is close-caption data from CNN -jdb

[2001-09-13 17:05:00] - earlier today, i heard a professor make fun of john stossel. :-P -jdb

[2001-09-13 17:05:00] - heh, i just heard a professor bash the corps (of cadets). -jdb

[2001-09-13 16:53:00] - cryptic:  apparently no one remember 'The Siege', either. - mig

[2001-09-13 16:52:00] - i hate to say it, but i'm not surprised.  most of the people at tech are a little on the ignorant side - mig

[2001-09-13 16:34:00] - logan: aivt = amnesty international at virginia tech -jdb

[2001-09-13 16:24:00] - aivt? -logan

[2001-09-13 16:18:00] - the opinions guy said he would publish our aivt statement... so I hope they publish other statements that have unpopular views. -jdb

[2001-09-13 16:11:00] - judging by the ct's track record, i have a feeling that the issue will be totally swept under the carpet. - wolf

[2001-09-13 16:04:00] - it's good people already know who did it.... especially considering the FBI, etc don't know yet (or atleast haven't informed us) -cryptic

[2001-09-13 16:04:00] - wolf: i don't know... i just read that in an email. i'm sure you'll see police reports in the CT for these things, but they'll just say "student was harassed", etc. -jdb

[2001-09-13 16:03:00] - that's retarded.... doesnt anyone remember the internment of japanese americans and the subsequent court rulings.... guess not... people are DUMB -cryptic

[2001-09-13 15:57:00] - where can i find more information about the students who were attacked? - wolf

[2001-09-13 15:54:00] - i overheard a conversation in my art history class between two students who though that all civil liberties should be suspended for 'muslims'. - wolf

[2001-09-13 15:38:00] - The Dean of Students office has already reported over 20 incidents of Middle Eastern students being harassed and attacked on campus, including one student who suffered broken ribs.

[2001-09-13 15:12:00] - i heard some particularly nasty stuff about rambus was ammending their patent claim while the standards talks were proceeding. - mig

[2001-09-13 14:51:00] - .... heh... situtation... situation... -cryptic

[2001-09-13 14:51:00] - attempting to force people into that situtation -cryptic

[2001-09-13 14:51:00] - that it's wrong to make it a standard + gain a patent on the technology... but it appears current patents on technology turned standards does not invalidate it... maybe only -cryptic

[2001-09-13 14:49:00] - that's what the idea appears to be... -cryptic

[2001-09-13 14:14:00] - wouldn't making a technology a standard invalidate any patents on it? - mig

[2001-09-13 13:36:00] - http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001/09/10/sun-ftc-probe.htm very intriguing story about sun and rambus. - mig

[2001-09-13 12:57:00] - wake up!

[2001-09-13 12:44:00] - i like chopsuey

[2001-09-12 23:05:00] - http://www.bway.net/~siobhan/jellyfish/091201.html    a really good blog entry by a girl living in ny.  -  aba

[2001-09-12 22:00:00] - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/interview.html  an old interview with osama bin laden - wolf

[2001-09-12 17:25:00] - http://filebox.vt.edu/users/scschnei/updates/index.html

[2001-09-12 16:06:00] - :P

[2001-09-12 16:05:00] - as well as demonstrating how a small cross section does not constitute the general feel.... although the lie statement may be more true to fact... -cryptic

[2001-09-12 15:48:00] - http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010912/od/sex_dc_1.html    study shows british men know how to lie.  :-p  -  aba

[2001-09-12 14:51:00] - http://kottke.org/  first hand accounts of what happened.  -  aba

[2001-09-12 14:13:00] - Spooky - aaron

[2001-09-12 13:58:00] - disturbing photos http://www.cheerfulcynic.com/wtc69.jpg http://www.msnbc.com.edgesuite.net/c/0/23/52/10x7/010911wtc_04.jpg http://www.smh.com.au/news/0109/12/graphics/C_ny1.jpg

[2001-09-12 13:09:00] - http://www.rotten.com/news/articles/wired-coup.jpg -logan

[2001-09-12 13:04:00] - Interesting articles about why the towers collapsed.  http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-091201collapse.story?coll=la%2Dhome%2Dtodays%2Dtimes and  http://www.pfarrell.com/rants/archtower.html -logan

[2001-09-12 13:00:00] - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_396725.html?menu=news.latestheadlines another tragedy may be on its way after this

[2001-09-12 12:57:00] - tomorrow night's free@vt meeting sounds fun, but i have class when they have meetings :( this is the third year in a row - wolf

[2001-09-12 12:22:00] - http://mickeyj.dhs.org:81/browne0911.txt browne speaks on yesterday - mig

[2001-09-12 08:55:00] - morning time again.... time for class fun! =Þ -cryptic [note the sarcasm]

[2001-09-12 08:06:00] - anyone else see the jet smoke/cloud-thingies in the sky this morning? i think i hear planes but i'm not sure... looks like military aircraft heading east - wolf

[2001-09-12 07:52:00] - http://www.michaelmoore.com/2001_0912.html <-- michael moore talks about the tragedy and his experiences dealing with airport security

[2001-09-12 07:45:00] - yet another mailing list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911USAttack

[2001-09-12 01:08:00] - i want candy.  ~a

[2001-09-12 01:05:00] - today sucked.  i shouldn't have gotten up today.  ~a

[2001-09-12 01:02:00] - and what the fuck happened to describing and signing links, josh!  >:o  ~a

[2001-09-12 01:01:00] - FUCK >:o  ~a

[2001-09-12 00:52:00] - a listing of wtc tenants --> http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/tech/051991.htm

[2001-09-12 00:32:00] - http://www.msnbc.com/news/627390_asp.htm <-- another worthless link for logan

[2001-09-12 00:05:00] - i thought the link about jingoism was very much worth clicking.  thanks to whoever posted it. - wolf

[2001-09-11 23:40:00] - the last one is mine and is worth clicking.... atleast in my opinion.... -cryptic

[2001-09-11 23:36:00] - And most of them not worth clicking. -logan

[2001-09-11 22:44:00] - ah!  too many links in a row with no descriptions!  -  aba

[2001-09-11 22:20:00] - http://www.asciimation.co.nz/diejarjar.html

[2001-09-11 22:03:00] - http://davidgrenier.weblogger.com/2001/09/11

[2001-09-11 21:27:00] - http://scobleizer.manilasites.com/

[2001-09-11 21:00:00] - http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11463

[2001-09-11 20:59:00] - http://us.news2.yimg.com/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010911/ts/crash_tradecenter_binladen_dc.html

[2001-09-11 20:24:00] - http://www.skyscraper.org/tallest/t_wtc.htm

[2001-09-11 20:11:00] - http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j091101.html

[2001-09-11 20:03:00] - http://web.nps.navy.mil/~library/tgp/qaida.htm

[2001-09-11 19:58:00] - did you see the congressmen on tv singing "god bless america?" surrreal. -jdb

[2001-09-11 19:58:00] - New York City reports at least 78 police officers missing, 200 firefighters presumed dead.

[2001-09-11 19:44:00] - http://a1692.g.akamai.net/f/1692/2042/1h/medias.lemonde.fr/medias/flash_obj/nycrash_fr

[2001-09-11 19:42:00] - "CNN just reported that of the 400 firefighters sent to the scene in NYC this morning, 200 of them were killed in the ensuing explosions and building collapse...."

[2001-09-11 18:08:00] - Explosions rock Kabul, Afghanistan

[2001-09-11 18:00:00] - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sept11firstperson/

[2001-09-11 17:36:00] - i don't find that surprising... this is tech, after all - wolf

[2001-09-11 17:31:00] - WOW, a lot of people participated in that prayer chain.

[2001-09-11 17:31:00] - building #7 just went down - wolf

[2001-09-11 17:24:00] - i wouldn't be surpirsed if the metal detector was "arranged" to be broken.

[2001-09-11 17:16:00] - "The two flights that were hijacked out of Boston left from the same terminal with the broken metal detector."

[2001-09-11 17:13:00] - dust cloud --> http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/latest/DS.p20-r/si.kokx.shtml

[2001-09-11 16:33:00] - [16:27] <Spockoria> I just heard that even Fiedel Castro has annonced to help the United States (Source: N24, German News Television) - wolf

[2001-09-11 16:25:00] - http://www.x10.com/products/x10_kr15a.htm

[2001-09-11 16:19:00] - >:o  "bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda1.  i couldn't boot. . . . luckily /dev/hda1 wasn't necessary so commented it out of /etc/fstab and rebooted.  ~a

[2001-09-11 15:58:00] - be right back.  ~a

[2001-09-11 15:58:00] - http://www.monkeyfist.com/articles/775

[2001-09-11 15:45:00] - Plus I doubt they've seen how horrid it really was.  They just know their enemy was struck. -logan

[2001-09-11 15:44:00] - Wouldn't you celebrate a strike against an oppressor?  You don't know how these people live. -logan

[2001-09-11 15:39:00] - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sept11info

[2001-09-11 15:39:00] - kids.  fucking kids.  celebrating death and destruction

[2001-09-11 15:38:00] - cnn has footage of palenstinians celebrating in the streets.  it really makes me sick

[2001-09-11 15:38:00] - http://chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-010911kamin-towers.story more on the structure of wtc - wolf

[2001-09-11 15:22:00] - "This is the direct result of the murder of innocents we have conducted in Occupied Palestine and Iraq, and we are 100% to blame for this tradgedy.  We are the ones who have brought these acts upon ourselves.  We are at fault.  We are getting what we deserve."

[2001-09-11 15:17:00] - "We just bombed Iraq last week -- the Gulf War is still going on. The U.S. bombed civilian targets in Belgrade and Kosovo. This is what it feels like."

[2001-09-11 15:16:00] - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=21544&threshold=1&commentsort=1&mode=thread&cid=2280106 why the wtc collasped

[2001-09-11 15:16:00] - <IRCMP> Hijacked aircraft intercepted by Canadian CF-18s over Alaska a moment ago, being forced down in the Yukon. - CBC - wolf

[2001-09-11 15:06:00] - http://www.fuzebox.org/images/wtc2.jpg

[2001-09-11 15:06:00] - http://www.fuzebox.org/images/wtc.jpg

[2001-09-11 14:49:00] - The only estimate I've heard so far is more on the order of 10,000 casualties. -logan

[2001-09-11 14:41:00] - TECH STUDENTS: PRAYER CHAIN IN DRILLFIELD AT 5 PM...BE THERE AND PASS IT ON.

[2001-09-11 14:41:00] - well, as far as deaths go... the bombs/crashes definately happened... that's not speculation

[2001-09-11 14:40:00] - I dont see the point of worrying about how many people lost their lives now, since everything is speculative -cryptic

[2001-09-11 14:40:00] - aba "50,000 - 100,000 people dead in the towers alone." -cryptic

[2001-09-11 14:39:00] - those buildings weren't out in a field somewhere - wolf

[2001-09-11 14:38:00] - you have to take into account the number of people affected by the debris, etc - wolf

[2001-09-11 14:37:00] - seeing pictures of places i'm so used to visiting now burning and falling apart makes me feel sick - wolf

[2001-09-11 14:35:00] - aba: although thousands work there and 100-150k visit daily does not mean that many died... I'm sure many people lost their lives, but having that many working/being there does not mean that many died.. -cryptic

[2001-09-11 14:33:00] - http://cubicmetercrystal.com/wtc/ more images - wolf

[2001-09-11 14:30:00] - I agree with that article.  Retaliation is just going to breed more anti-US sentiment.  Although I suppose in this instance we might be justified (as far as the world's opinion of us is concerned). -logan

[2001-09-11 14:28:00] - http://void-core.2y.net/~eks/coup.html - wolf

[2001-09-11 14:25:00] - i'm sitting in that irc channel now as 'wolfgirl' - wolf

[2001-09-11 14:23:00] - http://www.monkeyfist.com/articles/774

[2001-09-11 14:13:00] - what do you think this means? http://www.unirel.vt.edu/news/inter.html - wolf

[2001-09-11 14:10:00] - http://ads.x10.com/all/suspend.htm

[2001-09-11 13:53:00] - "Today is the anniversary of the peace treaty between Palestine and Israel signed at Camp David."

[2001-09-11 13:40:00] - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wtcattack

[2001-09-11 13:38:00] - #worldtradecenter on irc.openprojects.net has a lot of good info

[2001-09-11 13:27:00] - http://www.otney.com/wtcimages.html    various stills of the world trade center.  -  aba

[2001-09-11 13:26:00] - http://www.vt.edu/2000/headline.phtml?itemid=378 classes are cancelled. - wolf

[2001-09-11 13:22:00] - this is something we're going to be hearing about for the rest of our lives - wolf

[2001-09-11 13:15:00] - plus, when building collapse, they kind of destroy stuff around them too.  -  aba

[2001-09-11 13:15:00] - "About 50,000 people work at the Trade Center and tens of thousands of others visit each day."

[2001-09-11 13:11:00] - The towers don't hold that many people. -logan

[2001-09-11 13:09:00] - 50,000 - 100,000 people dead in the towers alone.  i feel sick.  :'(    -  aba

[2001-09-11 12:59:00] - already the pro-military people are pushing for more military spending.  politicians really make me sick

[2001-09-11 12:44:00] - four planes are down so far.  two american airlines and two united.  -  aba

[2001-09-11 12:43:00] - united flight has gone down near pittsburgh.  chances are - no survivors.  -  aba

[2001-09-11 12:36:00] - i would feel better if they evacuated my mom too.  :-\  i cant imagine shes getting much work done right now.  -  aba

[2001-09-11 12:36:00] - my cousin who works for the world bank in dc was evacuated and they made them all go on foot too.  he had to walk to a friends place.  -  aba

[2001-09-11 12:27:00] - my mom is going nuts because home is about 10 minutes from philly and 2 hours from manhattan - wolf

[2001-09-11 12:26:00] - my roomate won't get off the playstation so i can't watch cnn to see what's going on - wolf

[2001-09-11 12:25:00] - my good friend at catholic university said washington's a mess - wolf

[2001-09-11 11:22:00] - national's been declared a target and they've kicked everyone out.  they're going on foot.  they won't even let them get to their cars, saying they don't have time.

[2001-09-11 11:12:00] - F16's are flying patrol over DC which has been totally shut down -katie

[2001-09-11 11:05:00] - all the news sites seem to be functioning normally now. - mig

[2001-09-11 10:48:00] - another plane crash?  ~a

[2001-09-11 10:39:00] - lots of big places in chicago evacuated.

[2001-09-11 10:36:00] - hijacked plane was from baltimore. downtown baltimore is being evacuated.

[2001-09-11 10:34:00] - 50,000 people worked in world trade center

[2001-09-11 10:32:00] - airforce tracking those planes

[2001-09-11 10:32:00] - a hijacked plane headed towards dc

[2001-09-11 10:30:00] - united nations evacuated

[2001-09-11 10:29:00] - world trade center has been destroyed.

[2001-09-11 10:28:00] - the second world trade center tower is about to collapse

[2001-09-11 10:26:00] - haha, we've diverted all international flights to canada

[2001-09-11 10:25:00] - car bomb explodes outside of state department

[2001-09-11 10:18:00] - virginia tech is now blocking some mp3 sharing software. napster is throttled. kazza (sp?) is blocked.

[2001-09-11 10:16:00] - one eye witness counted 7 people jumping from world trade center

[2001-09-11 10:03:00] - one of the world trade center towers has collapsed

[2001-09-11 10:02:00] - all airports shutdown

[2001-09-11 09:58:00] - I can see the pentagon from my office and it's billowing smoke and I'm stuck here. -katie

[2001-09-11 09:57:00] - Now the pentagon's been hit.  They're evacuating the white house. -katie

[2001-09-11 09:54:00] - all news sites are getting /.ed

[2001-09-11 09:53:00] - Fire reported on National Mall in Washington

[2001-09-11 09:49:00] - the white house has been evacuated

[2001-09-11 09:47:00] - apparently one of the world trade center plans was american airlines 767

[2001-09-11 09:46:00] - and the pentagon was bombed

[2001-09-11 09:33:00] - prelim report: http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/plane11.html -katie

[2001-09-11 09:23:00] - two terrorist planes just crashed into the world trade centre

[2001-09-11 09:14:00] - http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/01/09/10/010910oplivingston.xml

[2001-09-11 07:16:00] - different than necessary -cryptic

[2001-09-11 07:16:00] - anyways, let's drop it, I find this bickering a waste of both your and my time,  your message is simple, "people are different thus there are going to be inequalities", fine, I'll agree to that, just stop using the word necessary, because it's NOT necessary, it may be what happens, but that is far

[2001-09-11 07:11:00] - my problem is still with the wording, the message behind the wording is simple and not profound, the word 'necessary' still implies that it's required wether or not you want the word to mean that -cryptic

[2001-09-11 07:08:00] - Saying inequality will exist because people are different and thus one will be superior (in one way) than another seems more reasonable -cryptic

[2001-09-11 07:07:00] - a definition of necessary is not follows, nor it must be, but rather essetial and needed.  How is inequality needed? -cryptic

[2001-09-11 07:06:00] - if you have more than one human being, it's not necessary or required that their circumstances be different, but rather it follows that their experiences will be different -cryptic

[2001-09-11 07:04:00] - necessary is still the wrong word though, even assuming everything.  -cryptic

[2001-09-11 07:00:00] - meaning: that's your experience and thus are applying it to every other situation -cryptic

[2001-09-11 06:59:00] - it's not necessary that their experiences and circumstances be different, you only assume as much because you don't know any different -cryptic

[2001-09-11 00:39:00] - If you have more than one human being, it is necessary that their experiences and circumstances will be different, and thus there must be inequalities. -logan

[2001-09-11 00:38:00] - So when I use it I mean that it must follow from whatever your premises are.  It's a logical consequence. -logan

[2001-09-11 00:37:00] - I think it's pretty clear in a philosophical context that necessary means necessary in the philosophical sense. :P -logan

[2001-09-11 00:23:00] - http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1988-01.html ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[2001-09-10 23:42:00] - somehow i don't see either via's new chip or the pentium 4 coming out anytime soon....

[2001-09-10 23:41:00] - http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=559331 huh?

[2001-09-10 23:34:00] - try http://www.dictionary.com for all your defining needs -cryptic

[2001-09-10 22:51:00] - that was me again -cryptic

[2001-09-10 22:51:00] - "necessary means that it must be" a more used definition is "necessary means required, essential, needed"

[2001-09-10 22:49:00] - given a world where everyone was equal, it would be very different from our own (that's a given) yet would it necessarily fail? Assuming it does not, what does cease once inequality is done away with?  If you mean "inequality exists" by "inequality is necesary", then the problem is wording -cryptic

[2001-09-10 22:47:00] - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010907/tc/crime_scarfo_spying_dc_1.html

[2001-09-10 22:46:00] - by saying inequality is necessary, you imply that something would not be if inequality stopped - Cryptic

[2001-09-10 22:45:00] - you gave an example of no inequalities existing, if you cannot imagine it in action, that is completely different than not computing/understanding, had you not understood, you could not give an example.... unless you happened to be guessing -cryptic

[2001-09-10 22:43:00] - logan:  There exist connotations and definitions for words, some more abstract than others, but the definition you propose for necessary does not fit mine.  Your definition seems more to be of existance...if something is necessary, that implies it has a purpose -cryptic

[2001-09-10 22:37:00] - http://www.themusictank.com/pages/pics/weekly.jpg

[2001-09-10 21:29:00] - i've never seen anyone retire that many times from anything.  how many times will have retired when he retires again?  i lost count. - mig

[2001-09-10 21:28:00] - i really wish michael jordan would make up his fucking mind.

[2001-09-10 21:13:00] - jordan is returning (to the nba)

[2001-09-10 20:02:00] - it's one of those situations where i don't know who's sadder:  the people selling the items or the people buying the items. - mig

[2001-09-10 19:59:00] - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/09/BU218329.DTL&type=business why?????? i'll just never understand people like this.  and my mom says i'm addicted to games. -  mig

[2001-09-10 19:36:00] - it looks rather onionesque, but one can never be too sure.  so many wacko groups around the world right now. - mig

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