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[2004-04-27 15:31:00] - paul: i prefer to let the alpha consumers pay the huge prices new tech costs then buy it myself when the trend wears out and it's all cheap 8-) - travis

[2004-04-27 15:30:00] - What a bunch of apathetic people we have on this board. :-P -Paul

[2004-04-27 15:29:00] - paul: None of the above? - aaron

[2004-04-27 15:27:00] - Mig: I think you mean Badnarik. -Paul

[2004-04-27 15:26:00] - nothing personal against benadark but i think he's just a bit crazy in the head. - mig

[2004-04-27 15:20:00] - paul:  well if either russo or nolan win the lp nomination i'm voting for either of them.  if it's benadark i'm considering just not bothering to vote at all. - mig

[2004-04-27 14:50:00] - http://mobilemomentum.msn.com/article.aspx?aid=5&GT1=3212 Are you an alpha consumer? -Paul

[2004-04-27 14:48:00] - Mel: yes, it's a universal truth that there are no universal truths.  Ow my head. - pierce

[2004-04-27 14:44:00] - So, who is everybody going to vote for in the presidential election? -Paul

[2004-04-27 14:07:00] - Pierce: I'm a one-dimensional crazy lunatic. ;-) -Paul

[2004-04-27 14:02:00] - haha, ok Paul is the exception.  Otherwise my statement below would be some sort of universal truth and we all know there aren't any.  :-)  -Mel

[2004-04-27 14:00:00] - Mel: except for Paul, who is in fact a crazy lunatic. :) - pierce

[2004-04-27 13:55:00] - mig: well that just proves that life isn't one-dimensional and no one really fits in a box.  -Mel

[2004-04-27 13:53:00] - People usually refer to me as the crazy lunatic, no matter what the issue is. -Paul

[2004-04-27 13:50:00] - I guess i'm either 'peacenik hippie liberal' or 'cold hearted right-winger' depending on the topic of conversation. - mig

[2004-04-27 13:49:00] - Miguel: haha, nice.  Yeah that's exactly the sort of definition that the thesaurus had.  Not what I think of when I think conservative.  -Mel

[2004-04-27 13:33:00] - Yeah, there are certainly some definitions of conservative that I could see people using to describe me. Mainly stuff having to do with preferring traditional values or being cautious. -Paul

[2004-04-27 13:25:00] - ha, one of my friends says that his girlfriend calls him conservative because he's "resistent to change".  I couldn't help but be very amused after he told me that. - mig

[2004-04-27 13:18:00] - Mel: And no, I don't consider myself conservative although I'm sure there are definitions of the term which apply to me. -Paul

[2004-04-27 13:17:00] - Mel: No, I've never looked them up in Roget's Thesaurus before but I know that the word 'liberal' tends to have much better synonyms than the word 'conservative' -Paul

[2004-04-27 13:12:00] - Paul: Have you ever looked up liberal and conservative in Roget's Thesaurus?  Do you consider yourself conservative?  because the two listings of synonyms seem very biased towards liberals.  -Mel

[2004-04-27 13:08:00] - Paul: bleeding heart liberal  :-)  -Mel

[2004-04-27 12:59:00] - Mel: Also, I know we talked about how you used to be libertarian, but I don't think you ever said what political orientation you are now. Care to share? -Paul

[2004-04-27 12:52:00] - Mel: Yeah, the previews of the movie look really amusing. Like all of a sudden disasters strike all over the world because of global warming. -Paul

[2004-04-27 12:51:00] - In The Day After Tomorrow extreme global warming happens in a matter of a few days.  Which of course isn't possible.  -Mel

[2004-04-27 12:50:00] - Sorry, something iis wrong with my browser.  I was going to say more, but it's ok. -Mel

[2004-04-27 12:49:00] - Paul: I haven't done enough research to have an informed opinion.  That  Global warming seems like a potential problem to me but not an urgent one at the moment

[2004-04-27 12:43:00] - Mel: Just out of curiosity, what do you think about global warming? -Paul

[2004-04-27 12:38:00] - http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_04/003774.php  article on NASA reaction.  -Mel

[2004-04-27 12:37:00] - cool site.  http://www.thedayaftertomorrowmovie.com/  -Mel

[2004-04-27 12:37:00] - Vinnie: cool, thanks.  Have you read these news reports that NASA had told its employees not to make any public comments on The Day After Tomorrow?  I find it funny that people could be so worried about a movie.  -Mel

[2004-04-27 12:31:00] - the day after tomorrow - vinnie

[2004-04-27 12:18:00] - what's the name of that movie coming out where the Earth undergoes all this extreme climate change?  -Mel

[2004-04-27 12:18:00] - hey guys, what

[2004-04-27 12:16:00] - That's quite an impressive resume. -Paul

[2004-04-27 11:56:00] - http://imdb.com/name/nm0371684/ did other people know that same guy who wrote the x-men movies also did the voice of solid snake and the EA sports slogan? i'm amazed i'd never heard of him - vinnie

[2004-04-27 10:11:00] - aaron:  it was just one penis.  the analogy would be "glass of milk causes brain cancer" although that's still ambiguous, isn't it?  ~a

[2004-04-27 09:06:00] - I love the ambiguous phrasing of that penis headline - it makes it sound like it might not be a one-time occurance. "milk causes brain cancer" "penis explodes during sex" no kidding! - aaron

[2004-04-27 07:02:00] - xpovos: too much grease? Hey, if it's food poisoning I'm sure you could sue them for a boatload of money ^_^ -dave

[2004-04-26 19:57:00] - Vinnie: re: McDonald's.  I ate lunch there and felt quite ill afterwards.  This happens on a number of occassions when I eat there. -- Xpovos

[2004-04-26 17:43:00] - I shudder to think what part of the female anatomy would explode then. -Paul

[2004-04-26 17:42:00] - Travis: I was wondering if anybody was going to bring that up. :-P -Paul

[2004-04-26 17:37:00] - she could become a lesbian - travis

[2004-04-26 17:14:00] - Dave: Then I guess she shouldn't be having sex anymore in order to prevent such a horrible thing from happening again. -Paul

[2004-04-26 17:11:00] - paul: maybe the gf was just THAT hot -dave

[2004-04-26 16:55:00] - Vinnie: I want to know what the couple was playing at too. ;-) -Paul

[2004-04-26 16:42:00] - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_76570.html a shudderingly uncomfortable thought - vinnie

[2004-04-26 15:15:00] - Travis: Actually, Cleveland has three of our guys right now (Ben Taylor, Andre Davis and Lee Suggs). -Paul

[2004-04-26 15:13:00] - dave:  well they haven't asked, but I'm sure they haven't said they don't want it. - mig

[2004-04-26 15:10:00] - mig: well, for this kind of help, we don't give it if they say they don't want it -dave

[2004-04-26 15:09:00] - aaron:  i do now. - mig

[2004-04-26 15:08:00] - mig: have you noticed a text component can have focus when it's in a background tab? - aaron

[2004-04-26 15:05:00] - argh!  goddamn this stupid browser! - mig

[2004-04-26 15:04:00] - dave:  true, but bush has already made it cldave:  true, but the US is never really portrayed as needy, and honeslty, do you think our government cares whether countries ask for our help or not? - mig

[2004-04-26 14:49:00] - ah - vinnie

[2004-04-26 14:38:00] - vinnie: yeah, I don't think we asked, but North Korea isn't asking either -dave

[2004-04-26 14:33:00] - i'm not sure we asked for help either - vinnie

[2004-04-26 14:15:00] - some.  don't know for sure though. - mig

[2004-04-26 14:15:00] - dave:  well it's not surprising that no one would give monetary aid to the us, since most figure that we don't really need it, considering how much money we throw away trying to help out other countries.  I'm not sure about any countries sending any rescuer workers or anything, but i can imagine maybe britain or some other country might have sent

[2004-04-26 14:12:00] - i heard 3000 figure also a few days ago, though I see that's been reduced a lot. the initial estimated casualties for 9/11 were greatly exaggerated too, I remember - vinnie

[2004-04-26 14:10:00] - dave: Okay. It sounds like the initial figures were overblown. I read that North Korea was trying to keep details quiet, so maybe journalists had to do some guesswork about the numbers - aaron

[2004-04-26 14:00:00] - mig: either -dave

[2004-04-26 13:59:00] - aaron: The death toll from the train explosion last Thursday stood Monday at roughly 160 and more than 1,300 people were listed as injured. " -dave

[2004-04-26 13:52:00] - hah, i hadn't checked the nfl draft, but that's amusing that deangelo hall went to atlanta where vick is.  guess atlanta will become the place for tech guys :-) - travis

[2004-04-26 13:47:00] - dave: Really? I read it was around 3,000 killed/injured although that figure may have changed since the story I read was published - aaron

[2004-04-26 13:47:00] - dave:  are we talking about financial aid or manpower aid? - mig

[2004-04-26 13:42:00] - aaron: tho there are something like 1300 injuries -dave

[2004-04-26 13:41:00] - aaron: yeah, it'd be somewhat amusing if other countries did offer us aid, but I was just curious. It is more casualties than sept 11? I read that there were 160 in South Korea -dave

[2004-04-26 13:24:00] - In all fairness, it is a lot more casualties, and a much poorer country - aaron

[2004-04-26 13:14:00] - Dave: Not that I know of. -Paul

[2004-04-26 13:10:00] - upon reading that several countries, including the US, are going to give aid to South Korea because of their train crash, I wondered whether any countries had given us aid after sept 11. Anyone know? -dave

[2004-04-26 12:58:00] - just the taste? - vinnie

[2004-04-26 12:58:00] - xpovos: what's your problem with mcdonald's specifically? - vinnie

[2004-04-26 12:52:00] - Xpovos: I don't know if they still have them, but McDonald's used to have a flatbread sandwich which was pretty good. -Paul

[2004-04-26 12:50:00] - I need to stop eating at McDonald's. Bleagh. -- Xpovos

[2004-04-26 12:20:00] - travis: I'm thinking of buying it on my way home - aaron

[2004-04-26 12:20:00] - aaron: not sure.  when would you like an answer? - travis

[2004-04-26 12:00:00] - travis: Should I buy WarioWare from you, or from Funcoland? - aaron

[2004-04-26 11:49:00] - Dave: We'll see, I think the market is going to over-react to Google, just like they over-reacted to all the other dot coms. -Paul

[2004-04-26 11:35:00] - paul: some people think so. others think that it will set off the new avalanche of tech IPOs -dave

[2004-04-26 11:24:00] - Dave: I'm thinking that instead of ushering in a new bubble, the Google IPO could usher in the new burst. -Paul

[2004-04-26 11:14:00] - From article on the Google IPO: "A $25 billion market value [estimated value after first day of trading] would instantly make Google worth more than Lockheed Martin, the big military contractor; Federal Express, the package delivery service; or Nike, the sports clothing maker." -dave

[2004-04-26 11:01:00] - Aaron: I'll accept that as a compromise :-) -Paul

[2004-04-26 10:59:00] - paul: No, just reprimand them with fines and jail time - aaron

[2004-04-26 10:57:00] - Aaron: Yeah, there should be a law to kill all old people. :-) -Paul

[2004-04-26 10:52:00] - dave: or strippers/adult entertainers, unless those are already banned from louisiana - aaron

[2004-04-26 10:46:00] - I read an article in the Post that talked about it too.  The article made the point that plenty of other people (plumbers etc) accidentally expose their buttocks when working.  Should they be fined too? -dave

[2004-04-26 10:42:00] - paul: Yeah - and why a law against low-slung pants? I mean i'll bet kids are just as offended by gross old people mosying around in their skate parks or alleys or wherever they hang out - aaron

[2004-04-26 10:36:00] - I'm not sure why, but recently I find myself very amused whenever I read some quote that contains the phrase, "There should be a law" -Paul

[2004-04-26 10:36:00] - Is slung even a word? I wouldn't try it in scrabble - aaron

[2004-04-26 10:33:00] - A fine - maybe... but jail time is very funny to me - aaron

[2004-04-26 10:28:00] - http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040423/D824G0380.html - travis

[2004-04-26 10:05:00] - "which is the only multilateral treaty to address the problems of computer-related crime and electronic evidence gathering" -dave

[2004-04-26 10:05:00] - mig: somehow I fail to see how joining that convention is giving up national sovereignty. I could be wrong but it sounds to me just like another treaty - like nuclear non-proliferation etc. -dave

[2004-04-26 09:44:00] - http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031117-11.html bush urges congress to give up national sovereingty and submit to a globalized government. - mig

[2004-04-26 09:39:00] - Travis: One of those women looks frightening for some reason. -Paul

[2004-04-26 09:37:00] - http://www.truemeaningoflife.com/img/fe_original.jpg (has the word "ass" if you're worried about such things) - travis

[2004-04-26 09:29:00] - Dave: I didn't know that either, but I wasn't surprised. -Paul

[2004-04-26 09:24:00] - "film Farenheit 9/11, which alleges that the Bush administration orchestrated the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 with Usama bin Laden, Moore is expected to continue bashing Bush and his policies on outsourcing, among others." wow, didn't know he claimed that Bush instigated the attacks. That's rather amusing -dave

[2004-04-26 09:17:00] - http://www.talonnews.com/news/2004/april/0423_moore_outsourcing.shtml Moore Outsourcing Jobs Despite Criticism -Paul

[2004-04-25 23:14:00] - http://www.beerhunter.com/documents/19133-000728.html - a little information on the failed Miller Clear Beer, for those confused by the latest Miller ads - vinnie

[2004-04-23 16:15:00] - "Gaddafi also has garnered international backing with his decision to accept responsibility for the 1988 Pan Am 103 bombing. Libya has pledged $2.7 billion to compensate families of the airliner's 270 victims -- $10 million per family." my gosh, that's a ton of money -dave

[2004-04-23 15:27:00] - good point. that might be why attractiveness development ends at such a seemingly arbitrary age - vinnie

[2004-04-23 15:14:00] - Pierce:  Shaddup.  --edit

[2004-04-23 15:06:00] - edit: "they'd probably also find 13 year olds attractive." - pierce

[2004-04-23 15:05:00] - I think the attraction to youth is probably partly what vinnie described (conditioning), and partly that youth implies fertility (or potential fertility), which affects us on a subconscious level.  For example, if you conditioned a 13 year old to find 80 year olds attractive, they'd probably still find 13 year olds attractive. - pierce

[2004-04-23 14:59:00] - I might blame that on the ambiguity of "attractiveness". is "attractiveness" only looks or is it potential compatibility or what? - vinnie

[2004-04-23 14:57:00] - Like a five would rate a five a ten but would rate a ten an eight - aaron

[2004-04-23 14:56:00] - paul: I think i remember reading about a study rated people around their own attractiveness level most attractive - aaron

[2004-04-23 14:55:00] - but when you're older your tastes get more set in stone and you still find younger people attractive. but then attainability and social acceptability comes into play which is why many people stick with people their own age - vinnie

[2004-04-23 14:55:00] - Ok, well, hopefully I've given you enough controversial stuff to last you the day because I'm off to go home and leave for the Burg now. See you all next week! -Paul

[2004-04-23 14:54:00] - with the jennifer garner thing, I think the reason kids are mostly attracted to people their own age, while older people generally find younger people more attractive, is that when you're young society says you should be with someone your own age and your tastes actually develop for people your own age - vinnie

[2004-04-23 14:49:00] - Vinnie: That's a good point and I didn't even notice the difference. -Paul

[2004-04-23 14:48:00] - Aaron: That seems a little paradoxical (although I think there is some truth to what you say) since attainability and attractiveness seem like they would be on opposite ends. -Paul

[2004-04-23 14:48:00] - pierce: I don't think you've fully answered paul's first question. it was whether it was reasonable not whether it was right. like i think you're allowed to have the belief that whites are the superior race but I don't think it's reasonable. paul was asking whether it's reasonable to think the behavior is wrong - vinnie

[2004-04-23 14:44:00] - paul: I think people generally find people their own page more attractive, because they're more attainable. Or at least, I think attainability is a part of what makes a person attractive to me - aaron

[2004-04-23 14:41:00] - Pierce: You could answer my Jennifer Garner motivated question then ;-) -Paul

[2004-04-23 14:40:00] - sorry, I know that's stale, but I am busy today.  and sports are boring. - pierce

[2004-04-23 14:38:00] - Paul: it's not reasonable for people to expect you to be an equal-opportunity friend, but they're perfectly justified in thinking that that behavior is wrong, because such a belief is just a matter of opinion. - pierce

[2004-04-23 14:30:00] - Mig: I know the NFL supposedly is on good terms with it's player's union and that's why there hasn't been rumors of a strike in a long time. Maybe that's why. -Paul

[2004-04-23 14:27:00] - paul:  that sort of my point.  i really think that paul:  that's why i'm confused that the NFL only makes a player sit out one year to free himself from a team that drafts him.  I would have thought since the rules on these things are usually favored towards the owners that they'd make a player sit out longer. - mig

[2004-04-23 14:24:00] - "Manning would not say what he would do if the Chargers draft him but indicated he did not intend to sit out next season." -dave

[2004-04-23 14:19:00] - Dave: Yeah, if the team with the first pick knows who they are going to draft, they'll often work out the deals of it ahead of time. The chargers are just totally confused right now. :-P -Paul

[2004-04-23 14:19:00] - dave:  he hasn't worked out a contract because no one is sure where he is going.  Most years it's more obvious where some of the top picks are going so the draft for those people is merely a formality. - mig

[2004-04-23 14:17:00] - and I believe it was his dad, Archie, that more stated the objection to the chargers than Eli -dave

[2004-04-23 14:16:00] - paul: actually I read that many times they have contracts worked out before they get drafted.  Eli is odd in that he has not worked out a contract yet -dave

[2004-04-23 14:12:00] - Mig: The problem is that the contract is negotiated after the player is drafted. So if San Diego drafts Eli then he'll just say he's not interested in playing football and wait a year. I think it would make things more interesting if teams could hold onto the rights to a player for as long as they wanted. :-) -Paul

[2004-04-23 14:09:00] - well they're not being forced to play if they don't want to.  but if they choose to play they have to play for the team that drafts them.  and honestly that's the way it should be, otherwise, why bother having a draft?  just let them all come in as free agents and let them sign with whoever they want. - mig

[2004-04-23 14:08:00] - Travis: Although I hated the second movie, I have to admit that I find his idea for using Nikki in a third movie to be very interesting. -Paul

[2004-04-23 14:06:00] - Travis: Yeah, I can't help but feel irked when some spoiled brat refuses to play for the team that drafts him, but it's not right to force him to play either. -Paul

[2004-04-23 14:02:00] - http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,---21123,00.html more kill bill to come - travis

[2004-04-23 14:02:00] - mig: apparently.  i still think it's rough that a guy can refuse to play for any team that drafts him, but i also don't think he should be forced to play if he doesn't want to.  so i guess it just sucks for teams that don't find out stuff like this until after they draft the guy - travis

[2004-04-23 14:01:00] - travis:  wow you just have to sit out one year?  i would think the NFL would have a longer sit out requirement for draft picks since most teams treat their draft picks like gold. - mig

[2004-04-23 13:59:00] - I really think the Chargers should trade down. They could use more picks rather than their one high one. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:58:00] - mig: all the pundits on espn say eli will sit out the season and enter the 2005 draft if the chargers draft him - travis

[2004-04-23 13:57:00] - i wonder if he'll pull what elway did if push comes to shove. - mig

[2004-04-23 13:49:00] - Mig: From what I understand, he at least implied that San Diego isn't an organization that is committed to winning. Which may be fairly accurate. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:47:00] - i still haven't decided whether manning is a prick or not yet.  i guess it depends if what he said was merely stating his preference or making a demand.  either way he should have just kept his mouth shut. - mig

[2004-04-23 13:44:00] - Mig: True enough. Especially considering it's a Manning. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:43:00] - yeah it has, but it still making a whole lot more people interested in what the chargers are going to do with their #1 pick. - mig

[2004-04-23 13:42:00] - Mig: I believe that John Elway did worse. I think Baltimore drafted him but he refused to play for them so they had to trade the rights to the Broncos. So at least that has happened before. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:40:00] - paul:  it'll be controversial but not for that reason.  i think the whole crazinees with Eli Manning telling san deigo not to draft him will have a lot of people watching. - mig

[2004-04-23 13:40:00] - I'm wondering because that commercial for 13 going on 30 has got me thinking about that kind of thing. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:38:00] - Here's another question for you. Do you think that as people get older, they find older people more attractive? (ie, we find people who are our own age attractive) or do you think it doesn't change as much? -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:35:00] - Travis: Of course, this could end up being the most controversial draft in a long time, what with the Supreme Court almost getting involved. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:35:00] - Travis: Heh, that's probably because Hockey is least popular sport amongst those 4. I do have to admit that it should probably be #2 after basketball, though, because it's the playoffs while the other two are pre or regular season. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:34:00] - just shows the PTI's prediction that the nfl draft would get better ratings than the nhl playoffs is probably true - travis

[2004-04-23 13:33:00] - oh, on the hockey vs. basketball debate, i heard the radio version of sportscenter twice on the way to work this morning: first time was basketball, baseball, nfl draft, hockey; second time was nfl draft, basketball, baseball, hockey - travis

[2004-04-23 13:32:00] - paul: yeah - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:31:00] - It sounded like they wanted the Lakers to win it every year in 130-120 games or whatever. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:31:00] - Saying stuff like the low scores these days are pathetic and that David Stern needs to get back those 16 points (supposedly games 20 years ago or whatever averaged 16 points more a game) and saying how nobody cares about who wins anymore because it's some small market team like the Spurs or Pacers -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:29:00] - I guess high scoring games are generally found more exciting, but maybe it was the tone of the guys on the radio. They hardly ever talk about professional basketball (it's always baseball or college basketball) and when they do, it's only to talk about how much it sucks. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:28:00] - Vinnie: So somebody from Japan (where it's like 99% Japanese) would be much more justified in hanging out with other Japanese than somebody from NOVA? -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:28:00] - while I normally dislike low scoring games, I have to say I find detroit's games entertaining usually. maybe it just takes really good defense for me to appreciate it - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:27:00] - paul: basically things about the zenophobicness of their culture. i guess that relates to homogenization - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:26:00] - Travis: Yesterday, all I kept hearing on the radio was how the basketball playoffs suck now because the games are so low scoring and the good teams are all from small markets and that's all they kept talking about. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:26:00] - that's a good example of the homogenization aspect - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:26:00] - Travis: Radio can get away with a lot more. I assume they're joking too. That brings up something that was annoying me a lot though. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:25:00] - Vinnie: What about the person's background? -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:24:00] - there's a guy that works with the junkies on 99.1 who keeps getting called racist, mostly jokingly (i hope), because he's upfront about not finding black chicks attractive - travis

[2004-04-23 13:24:00] - the homogenization and the person's background - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:22:00] - Vinnie: Based on context regarding the homogenization level of the culture? Or just the specific situation? -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:21:00] - it's one of those things that's based on context - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:20:00] - paul: yeah, tricky question. I know the answer certainly varies based on where you live. i'm gonna say as a general rule, it's not reasonable though. culture is still quite homogenous and xenophobic in many parts - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:18:00] - Vinnie: Ok, so you don't see anything wrong with it. Now the next question is, is it reasonable for others to see something wrong with it? -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:17:00] - or acceptable. yeah, that's the word - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:17:00] - racist but justifiable - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:17:00] - Pierce: I'm not sure, I guess unconsciously. Like you are just more comfortable around people who are more like you. Or we could debate both. :-) -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:16:00] - - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:16:00] - another old movie star irony: charlie chaplin losing a charlie chaplin lookalike contest - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:16:00] - Pierce: I thought that was Zeus ;-) -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:15:00] - Paul: consciously or unconsciously? - pirece

[2004-04-23 13:15:00] - Vinnie: Not controversial, but how about "Is it racist (in the bad way) to want to hang out more with your own kind?" -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:13:00] - mig: Should he/she know it instinctively?  No.  Should he/she know it?  Yes. - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:13:00] - But "being struck by lightning" is a commonly recognized sign of incurring god's wrath, so it's ironic for someone pretending to be Jesus to be a victim of it. - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:13:00] - Pierce: Ok, so the irony is that God causes lightning and he struck an actor protraying his son? :-P -paul

[2004-04-23 13:12:00] - should i be worried if the sys admin in our office doesn't instinctively know that the scripts for stopping/starting services are in /etc/init.d/? - mig

[2004-04-23 13:12:00] - Paul: oh, now I understand.  No, I suspect the real Jesus didn't get struck by lightning. - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:11:00] - Paul: yeah, you didn't know that?  It was during the making of the movie, too. - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:11:00] - Pierce: Jesus got struck by lightning? -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:10:00] - oh, you said "controversial".  My mistake. - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:10:00] - Compaqs suck. - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:09:00] - someone make a controversial statement and we'll debate it - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:08:00] - i dunno what it is about fridays either, but I've noticed it - vinnie

[2004-04-23 13:06:00] - That ranks right up there with Jim Cavaziel getting struck by lightning when playing Jesus. - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:06:00] - Travis: I'm gone every other friday, so maybe the lack of my controversial statements has something to do with it. -Paul

[2004-04-23 13:06:00] - More amusing movie irony that I didn't know about until just now: Brad Pitt tore his Achilles tendon during the making of Troy, in which he plays Achilles. - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:05:00] - I've been quiet because I'm busy reinstalling a ton of crap on my new laptop, after my old one went kaput this week... twice. - pierce

[2004-04-23 13:02:00] - why does it seem everyone is always quiet on friday?  i would think people would work less on friday and hence have more time to post stuff (here and in journals) - travis

[2004-04-23 12:04:00] - Travis: I would think the bones would've also been a bit crunchy. I can't imagine how high you have to be in order to think that's a good idea. -Paul

[2004-04-23 11:57:00] - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_791522.html the nails must've been crunchy - travis

[2004-04-23 11:49:00] - Mig: Nope, been a quiet email day. -Paul

[2004-04-23 11:20:00] - nope, yahoo blocks all spam (except an occasional yahoo ad, of course) - travis

[2004-04-23 11:13:00] - has anyone else gotten a ton of emails claiming that osama bin laden has been captured, click on link to see photos?  i've gotten like 10 of them already today. - mig

[2004-04-23 10:50:00] - Ok, I was about to say that getting it done in 1-2 weeks doesn't seem to be that impressive to me, but if you're comparing it to previous years then I guess it's somewhat impressive. -Paul

[2004-04-23 10:47:00] - piggy

[2004-04-23 10:27:00] - paul: yeah. In my past experience, it takes several months -dave

[2004-04-23 10:08:00] - Dave: What are you impressed by? That they got it done in 1-2 weeks? -Paul

[2004-04-23 09:43:00] - dang, I snail-mailed my taxes like 2-3 weeks before the deadline, and they direct desposited my refund yesterday. I'm impressed -dave

[2004-04-23 09:37:00] - travis: If they're going to be that annoying with javascript, why not just use javascript to redirect you to their page on a mouseover? - aaron

[2004-04-23 08:59:00] - http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0423/p09s02-coop.html Political differences = Brain differences? -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:56:00] - i saw that comic in the post on sunday and skipped it because it was too long. clearly my attention span at the table isn't much - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:49:00] - Travis: Hahaha! That was a good comic. :-P -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:47:00] - wow, i just found a really annoying banner ad: whenever you mouse over it, a windows message box pops up saying "Click below to run IE plugin" with OK/Cancel buttons - travis

[2004-04-22 16:45:00] - http://comics.com/comics/pearls/archive/images/pearls2004041261448.jpg - travis

[2004-04-22 16:44:00] - Travis: The same place your capital letters are at. 8-) -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:43:00] - Paul: yeah, well, where's the period at the end of that sentence? :-P - travis

[2004-04-22 16:38:00] - I hate people who type all in lower case letters ;-) -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:34:00] - aaron: that is such a paradoxical statement =-0 - travis

[2004-04-22 16:32:00] - \/1|\||\|13 0\/\/|\|5 J00, 37©... - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:31:00] - travis: They're mocking people who don't exist - nobody talks that way except for the people who are mocking people who talk that way - aaron

[2004-04-22 16:31:00] - travis: Ugh that whole culture bugs me to end - aaron

[2004-04-22 16:29:00] - "omfg teh pr0n r0x0rs my w0rld!"

[2004-04-22 16:29:00] - and let's not get started on andrew's spelling/grammar in his journal :-P - travis

[2004-04-22 16:28:00] - travis: the funniest one of those is pr0n - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:27:00] - it's also silly that i still occasionally see people use "teh" instead of "the" on purpose - travis

[2004-04-22 16:27:00] - Travis: I know I mess up 'then' and 'than' all the time :-/ -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:26:00] - Vinnie: I guess it's possible. And considering that the government make it a requirement to have airbags in cars when they're known to be dangerous, I wouldn't put anything beyond them. -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:26:00] - "your" and "you're" bugs me mou're - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:25:00] - travis: if that little mistake bothers you, than maybe you should lower your standards - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:25:00] - for the record, I have no problem with "comes in handy". i think it sounds fine. but it might be grammatically incorrect nonetheless - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:25:00] - aaron: i just wish people on the web would learn to use "then" and "than" correctly, that irks me to no end - travis

[2004-04-22 16:24:00] - but yes, for warning there are some risque ads on the page as well - travis

[2004-04-22 16:24:00] - travis: Yeah, and nobody uses "whom" anymore, either. But still, some things sound worse to me than others, grammatically. - Aaron

[2004-04-22 16:23:00] - Paul: i have pop-up blocker, so i wouldn't know - travis

[2004-04-22 16:22:00] - i don't think it's a safety hazard, btw, just that that might be the government's rationale - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:22:00] - just people wanting to change discs and skip songs and stuff like that with a product that isn't as accessible as a panel. i know loading CDs into my discman on my lap is a much bigger pain than putting them in my car's player - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:22:00] - Travis: btw, I think your link opened up a rather "obscene" pop-up window. :-P -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:21:00] - cause if you wanna get techinical about grammar, saying something like "what store are you going to?" is wrong by strict english standards, because you can't end in a preposition - travis

[2004-04-22 16:21:00] - Travis: I think (but I'm not sure) that you would also need more computing power in your stereo than just software. Decoding MP3s seems a bit more complicated than playing WAV files... -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:20:00] - aaron: but is "Verb, preposition, adjective" grammatically incorrect? - travis

[2004-04-22 16:19:00] - English deteriorates towards rapidly awful! - aaron

[2004-04-22 16:19:00] - we'll probably eventually see line-in jacks become a standard, sorta like how they phased cigarette lighters into power outlets, it just takes a while for the change - travis

[2004-04-22 16:19:00] - Vinnie: I'm a bit confused, why would a line-in jack be a safety hazard? -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:19:00] - "this comes handy" makes perfect sense, really - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:19:00] - vinnie: "This comes in handy" is awful. Verb, preposition, adjective. What a stupid pattern. But sticking an adverb in there makes it sound 100x worse to me - aaron

[2004-04-22 16:18:00] - i'm just thinking handy is an adjective when normally that construct should have a noun, like "hand" or "use" - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:17:00] - ha, headphones would be line-out jack so maybe no products - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:17:00] - why is "this comes in handy" grammatically incorrect?  is it one of those weird grammar rules, like saying "i'm getting married" is actually incorrect? - travis

[2004-04-22 16:16:00] - not that that stops people from using discman-to-tape converters. just that maybe the government doesn't want cars to have them - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:16:00] - would it actually be cheaper to include another piece of hardware (the jack) or to include better software that reads MP3 CDs? - travis

[2004-04-22 16:15:00] - paul: I wonder if the line-in jack is left out as a safety concern. I can't imagine too many products you can use it with safely besides headphones - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:15:00] - http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=Articles&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=81379 update on the porn HIV "outbreak" - travis

[2004-04-22 16:14:00] - aaron: I think even "this comes in handy" is gramatically incorrect, no? - vinnie

[2004-04-22 16:11:00] - Travis: I know, but a line-in jack not only solves that problem better (and less expensively for the stereo maker), but it also solves a load of other problems too. I just don't understand why such a useful (and I imagine cheap) option is frequently left out. -Paul

[2004-04-22 16:04:00] - you can also buy a car stereo with MP3 CD support, which doesn't solve the problem if you're using a portable MP3 player but car manufacturers aren't catering to you then anyway - travis

[2004-04-22 15:41:00] - Aaron: No idea if it's grammatically correct or not. It's a fairly common phrase, though. -Paul

[2004-04-22 15:35:00] - Ugh i hate hearing the phrase, "This comes in extremely handy..." Is this even grammatically correct? It sounds awful to me. - aaron

[2004-04-22 15:32:00] - Aaron: Thanks, but I'm not fed up enough to buy a new car stereo, yet. It just irks me that such a seemingly simple and useful addition is missing. -Paul

[2004-04-22 15:31:00] - You could  probably buy a nice new stereo for a good price which would have a line-in jack so you could listen to MP3s - aaron

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