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[2004-05-05 13:22:00] - Mig: I would prefer that we either called her by her name or not hear about the trial at all. -Paul
[2004-05-05 13:17:00] - Dave: Geez, such peer pressure to say 'true'. I'll say it's probably more true than not, but I think it would be foolish to say that there is no connection between the two. -Paul
[2004-05-05 13:03:00] - dave: true. ~a
[2004-05-05 13:02:00] - dave: probably true. - mig
[2004-05-05 12:58:00] - paul: day after pill -dave
[2004-05-05 12:43:00] - paul: would you prefer her to be called, "Kobe Bryant's victim"
- mig[2004-05-05 12:39:00] - http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/status-quo-ante.html release sadaam hussein? - mig
[2004-05-05 12:30:00] - dave: true -Mel
[2004-05-05 12:29:00] - Dave: likewise true. Women who are to be promiscuous will do so regardless of the presence of any form of birth control. -- Xpovos
[2004-05-05 12:03:00] - dave: true (imo) -kris
[2004-05-05 11:56:00] - aaron: i didn't see any milk in the car, but i did see a qt of whole milk in the fridge if that's what you're talking about. ~a
[2004-05-05 11:56:00] - Dave: What kind of emergency contraception are we talking about here? Surgical abortion or a day after pill? -Paul
[2004-05-05 11:54:00] - "emergency contraception "does not increase promiscuity among teenaged women, nor does it cause women to abandon their regular birth control methods." " true or not true? -dave
[2004-05-05 11:53:00] - Anyone else getting a little tired of how awkward "Kobe Bryant's accuser" sounds? -Paul
[2004-05-05 11:53:00] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1795381 Kobe Bryant's lawyers want his accuser to not be referred to as "the victim" -Paul
[2004-05-05 11:24:00] - Vinnie: Mayhaps, but I still think that taking away 11 years from a person's life is a bit harsh considering the guy didn't hurt anybody and there is no sign that he had any intention of hurting anybody. -Paul
[2004-05-05 11:20:00] - Paul: it's going to be on the local news on Fox5, not fox news channel. They are 2 very different beasts. - mig
[2004-05-05 11:19:00] - follow the government's law or it will imprison you - vinnie
[2004-05-05 11:08:00] - Mig: Yup, sounds like a news channel with a conservative bias to me.
-Paul[2004-05-05 11:07:00] - http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/05/national/05DISN.html?position=&ei=5006&en=89982416bdce50c0&ex=1084334400&adxnnl=1&partner=ALTAVISTA1&p A NY Times version of the story Dave was talking about. -Paul
[2004-05-05 11:06:00] - ugh, the local fox news show is going to try to demonize sites that offer cigarettes for sale over the internet tonight. it's so easy and cheap that children can do it! - mig
[2004-05-05 11:03:00] - Vinnie: Deterrent to others in what fashion? Be careful or else the government will lock you away for 11 years for doing nothing wrong? -Paul
[2004-05-05 10:59:00] - if he really wasn't a threat (and I'm not convinced he wasn't) then it's a deterrent for others - vinnie
[2004-05-05 10:10:00] - And if he wasn't a seperatist or anti-government before, what do you think prison is going to teach him? -Paul
[2004-05-05 10:09:00] - Aaron: I guess, but from everything I read, there didn't seem to be any intent whatsoever to harm anybody. It sounded like the government even admitted that he didn't seem to be a threat. -Paul
[2004-05-05 10:06:00] - Paul: You could make the same argument for any "real" thwarted terrorists - aaron
[2004-05-05 09:54:00] - http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/2549652 Is it just me, or is 11 years in prison a little much for somebody who harmed absolutely nobody? -Paul
[2004-05-05 09:43:00] - aaron: ok. ~a
[2004-05-05 09:23:00] - a: i think you have milk in your trunk - aaron
[2004-05-05 09:11:00] - Mig: Thanks. -Paul
[2004-05-05 09:02:00] - paul: I would be comfortable starting all 3. - mig
[2004-05-05 08:47:00] - Mig: I need some fantasy baseball advice. Would you recommend starting Buehrle @ Baltimore, Kim @ Cleveland or Penny against LA? I could start any or all of them. -Paul
[2004-05-05 08:41:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2867-2004May5.html Disney currently blocking Michael Moore's latest film on Bush's connections with bin Laden. -dave
[2004-05-04 23:58:00] - Mig: I just think that's an unfortunate name for your restaurant if you're trying to convince people you don't have racial prejudices.
- pierce[2004-05-04 15:52:00] - Mig: And their stock went up. -Paul
[2004-05-04 15:39:00] - http://www.tennessean.com/business/archives/04/04/50717839.shtml?Element_ID=507 Cracker Barrell forced to post signs just about everywhere that they do not have discriminatory practices despite there being no proof that they do have such pratices. - mig
[2004-05-04 15:21:00] - a: I don't think I was intending to be sarcastic. I think it's silly to expect the media to blame a virus on the OS it infects instead of the programmer. -Paul
[2004-05-04 15:18:00] - i'll just have to assume your first post was intended to be sarcastic although it was pretty hard to tell until i read your second post. anyways . . . i'm not sure that it wasn't intentional; but what's in it for bbc? ~a
[2004-05-04 14:59:00] - a: Actually, I found that to be very amusing too. Are they sure it wasn't intentional? -Paul
[2004-05-04 14:58:00] - a: That's like saying it's funny that a theft report fails to point out that it's the victim's fault for not having a gun to defend themselves that caused the problem. -Paul
[2004-05-04 14:56:00] - instead they diss the programmer of the virus: "Poor programming by Sasser's creator makes infected machines shut down." ~a
[2004-05-04 14:56:00] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3679511.stm i think it's funny that the media fails to point out that it's microsoft's poor programming that caused the problem or that it was IE (an application that people can visualize as an optional component of a system) . . . ~a
[2004-05-04 14:49:00] - i refuse to believe that promulgated is a word. ~a
[2004-05-04 14:37:00] - Mel: Then it's either not surprising because there is a reason it was skewed (was it at a fund-raiser?) or maybe the American people aren't as concerned about the war/torture/economy as Democrats think/hope. -Paul
[2004-05-04 14:33:00] - Paul: ok, they probably weren't planted. Just somewhat skewed. -Mel
[2004-05-04 14:25:00] - Mel: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised at all and I kinda assume most politicians do it, but it sounds like the only criticism is from a clearly leftist blog that the audience questions weren't harsh enough. -Paul
[2004-05-04 14:24:00] - Mel: Am I missing something? Where is the proof of the planted questions? -Paul
[2004-05-04 14:22:00] - Travis: I see. So that was more about the fact that marriage is hell then, huh?
-Paul[2004-05-04 14:21:00] - http://atrios.blogspot.com/ Political blog. Bush's "bus" tour has planted questions from the audience. -Mel
[2004-05-04 14:19:00] - Paul: ummm, i didn't - travis
[2004-05-04 14:13:00] - Travis: How did you know he is working the same place as his fiance? -Paul
[2004-05-04 14:12:00] - "And being forced to see an ex-lover that you don’t like anymore everyday will be your first taste of marriage" tell that one to tim
- travis[2004-05-04 14:00:00] - http://www.collegiatetimes.com/index.php?ID=3850 I especially like numbers four and eight. -Paul
[2004-05-04 13:59:00] - Vinnie: Well, it reads just as well as if you had read those paragraphs. I still don't think it reads "fine"
-Paul[2004-05-04 13:59:00] - Travis: I think it has to do with the fact that Californians think they are a lot better than everyone else. -Paul
[2004-05-04 13:57:00] - what's funny is that the article reads fine skipping those first two paragraphs - vinnie
[2004-05-04 13:56:00] - Aaron: Yeah, that's what I was wondering. It doesn't seem like the mannequin has any sort of message. So are these offended people just pretending to be offended because they are afraid it is sending some message that they don't understand? -Paul
[2004-05-04 13:56:00] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2004/columns/story?columnist=walton_bill&id=1793464 wtf do the first two paragraphs have to do with anything else in the article? - travis
[2004-05-04 13:41:00] - The object of a mannequin isn't like a poster or bumper sticker, where it has a definite message - so I guess people worry about what the message is supposed to be - aaron
[2004-05-04 13:41:00] - I think it's just a fact that he has a symbol of something representing the other sex. Like if a black person kept a white puppet on his desk, or if a republican had a Howard Dean cardboard cutout - aaron
[2004-05-04 13:38:00] - paul: Ha ha - no I just thought it was funny that she was concerned about a sexual harrassment lawsuit - but would still have it removed if it were male - aaron
[2004-05-04 13:26:00] - Aaron: I understand why whoever is in charge wants it removed, because people find it offensive and may file a sexual harassment lawsuit. I just want to know why the people who find it offensive, find it offensive. -Paul
[2004-05-04 13:16:00] - There's your answer, paul - aaron
[2004-05-04 13:15:00] - "If it were a male mannequin, I'd want it removed, also." .......[it's] a matter of protecting the city from a sexual harassment lawsuit.
[2004-05-04 11:17:00] - Mig: I doubt it, the people complaining in that article sound like feminists to me. And feminists are not often very religious IMHO. -Paul
[2004-05-04 11:13:00] - paul: and the people complaining are probably the same people who cry and whine when the ten commandments might get taken down from a public building. - mig
[2004-05-04 11:04:00] - http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/apr04/226253.asp Can somebody explain to me how the mannequin is offensive? -Paul
[2004-05-04 11:03:00] - http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/8564325.htm?ERIGHTS=-1487129266900639654miami::obscure1@mindspring.com&KRD_RM=9ppqppstxyyvyupsyxqtpppppp%7CJ civic activist is arrested after trying to warn drivers of a police checkpoint. -Paul
[2004-05-04 10:59:00] - http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38335 Bogus rape photos used as Arab propaganda. It's interesting when the 'Iraqi Babes' website was created though. -Paul
[2004-05-04 10:35:00] - http://www.talonnews.com/news/2004/may/0503_dean_talk_show.shtml A Howard Dean talk show? -Paul
[2004-05-04 10:33:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,63304,00.html Giving up info for protection? -Paul
[2004-05-04 10:30:00] - Mig: I just found it amazingly ironic that they basically ignored the governor's side of the story, only expressing Green's views and bashing libertarianism as some sort of radical rightist thing. -Paul
[2004-05-04 10:28:00] - http://www.canada.com/saskatoon/starphoenix/news/local/story.html?id=774e47e8-d3e4-448b-a1b3-7b783241094b Does gun registration work? -Paul
[2004-05-04 10:26:00] - we can't have a weak government! how will we oppress the people then? - mig
[2004-05-04 10:19:00] - the governor of NH rocks. - mig
[2004-05-04 09:59:00] - http://www.thechamplainchannel.com/wnne/3264604/detail.html I'm glad we got to hear both sides of the argument in this article. Oh, and libertarians are far to the right? -Paul
[2004-05-04 09:22:00] - i just heard about that one on the radio this morning. - mig
[2004-05-04 09:22:00] - Mig: That's the impression I got. They are pressuring him to cut his hair so they can make money off of it. -Paul
[2004-05-04 09:21:00] - http://cbs2chicago.com/zwecker/local_story_120180254.html another sex change story, this one for matrix co-creator larry wachowski - vinnie
[2004-05-04 09:17:00] - so they want damon to cut his hair for some event that charities can raise money for? - mig
[2004-05-04 09:16:00] - http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/americannews/news/state/8584597.htm politician wants to undergo sex change. hopefully he won't be using taxpayer money to fund the operation. - mig
[2004-05-04 09:13:00] - Mig: Him cutting his hair. -Paul
[2004-05-04 09:11:00] - paul: what event? - mig
[2004-05-04 08:44:00] - "The Boston Globe reports pressure is building on Boston Red Sox OF Johnny Damon to cut his hair, from charities and television stations hoping to benefit from the event" Uh, doesn't that seem kinda selfish on the part of the charities? -Paul
[2004-05-04 08:33:00] - a: I was in the conversation so I know what you're talking about and I still say that you would not want to see a flat federal sales tax replace the current income tax without significant government cuts. Otherwise you're going to see like 80% sales tax. -Paul
[2004-05-03 18:12:00] - (and for those of you weren't in on the conversation, i'm being sarcastic) ~a
[2004-05-03 18:12:00] - mig: federal sales tax that replaces the income tax? it would be impossible for the government to make a sales tax generate enough revenue as the income tax does now. ~a
[2004-05-03 17:51:00] - http://www-tech.mit.edu/V124/N20/ValentiIntervie.20f.html
[2004-05-03 17:15:00] - Draft is a big issue, and getting bigger. I'll take him over Kerry or Bush. Still would prefer Nolan, I think. -- Xpovos
[2004-05-03 16:31:00] - Awesome definition, pierce! - aaron
[2004-05-03 15:39:00] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World#First_World,_Second_World,_Third_World this is a very good summary answering my question from before. Wikipedia is great. - pierce
[2004-05-03 15:33:00] - Mig: What bothers me is that he doesn't seem to be a well-organized candidate. It's hard to find out his stance on the issues on the website and he seems to only have stances on a few issues. -Paul
[2004-05-03 15:26:00] - paul: the only complaint i do have with him is he's in favor of having a federal sales tax to replace the income tax, but it's a relatively minor one. - mig
[2004-05-03 15:21:00] - xpovos: right now it seems that the draft is a big issue for him, so he's trying to make a public stink about it. - mig
[2004-05-03 15:21:00] - Something that bothers me is that it's not immediately obvious that he is a libertarian from his website. I'm hoping he isn't some Republican in Libertarian clothing. -Paul
[2004-05-03 15:20:00] - http://www.russoforpresident.com/ You can check out his website. -Paul
[2004-05-03 15:19:00] - xpovos: http://www.russoforpresident.com - mig
[2004-05-03 15:16:00] - Hmm, I did research on Nolan, but non on Russo. What's Russo up to? -- Xpovos
[2004-05-03 15:11:00] - Mig: That's why I've been holding off. Although I have to admit that I'm really hoping that Nolan wins it because I think he would make the better candidate. -Paul
[2004-05-03 15:09:00] - Hmph. I might have to change the banner on my web page, because all the lp sources that i keep reading seem convinced Russo is going to win the nomination. - mig
[2004-05-03 15:08:00] - i dunno. i'd would be very interested in the reaction of the "equal opportunities" feminists on that. - mig
[2004-05-03 15:07:00] - Mig: I wonder if the thought of women being drafted will be the most outraging thing about that. -Paul
[2004-05-03 15:01:00] - http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38305 Selective Serivce wants to expand registration to women and raise age range to 34, as well as require those who have special skills to inform the government that they posses them. - mig
[2004-05-03 14:57:00] - Pierce: It's ok, I didn't even think to click on the link that was the source of the definition. -Paul
[2004-05-03 14:57:00] - Pierce: It's also present in the fourth definition.
-Paul[2004-05-03 14:51:00] - Heh. My mind isn't very flexible today... sadly, it didn't even occur to me to check the other definitions
- pierce[2004-05-03 14:50:00] - Pierce: See third definition then. -Paul
[2004-05-03 14:46:00] - http://www2.ucsc.edu/atlas/glossary.html = 404 File Not Found - pierce
[2004-05-03 14:43:00] - Pierce: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&oi=defmore&q=define:Third+World See first definition. -Paul
[2004-05-03 14:43:00] - Pierce: You and your damned "moderation"
-Paul[2004-05-03 14:42:00] - Incidentally, what is the "second world"? I hear about first-world and third-world countries all the time, but never second-world. What gives? - pierce
[2004-05-03 14:41:00] - Final summation: like everything, outsourcing can be both good and bad, depending on how it's used. So we should just use it maturely. End of discussion.
- pierce[2004-05-03 14:40:00] - Outsourcing (when not exploitative) provides (relatively) lucrative jobs and first-world opportunities to second- and third-world people. Good thing. Outsourcing can provide these things to societies that are not yet ready for them, and potentially upset fragile agricultural economies. Bad thing. - pierce
[2004-05-03 14:39:00] - Mig: That's one way, but the far more efficient way is to simply tax things coming from overseas. -Paul
[2004-05-03 14:38:00] - besides, what can you do about outsourcing? force companies to hire x amount of american citizens? - mig
[2004-05-03 14:38:00] - Outsourcing can bypass our country's evolved protections from exploitation. Bad thing. Outsourcing keeps us on our toes and makes us actually be efficient and productive. Good thing. - pierce
[2004-05-03 14:36:00] - Wow, so people WERE paying attention to the message board.
Now all we need is for some liberals to post their opinions. -Paul[2004-05-03 14:35:00] - Outsourcing is the market's response to inter-sovereign inequities. Good thing. -- Xpovos
[2004-05-03 14:35:00] - Well despite the massive amount of outsourcing, the job market seems to be picking up. so i say it's inconsequential. - mig
[2004-05-03 14:32:00] - Ok, this has been too slow today. Outsourcing. A good thing or a bad thing? Discuss! -Paul
[2004-05-03 13:59:00] - Aaron: I know exactly what you mean. It's almost like they designed Acrobat Reader to be incompatible with everything else out there. -Paul
[2004-05-03 13:54:00] - I would understand if it was assigned to a different editing function, but it's just unassigned.... so stupid! - aaron
[2004-05-03 13:53:00] - Every day I find a new reason to hate Acrobat Reader. Why doesn't Alt-E -> F take you to the "FIND" tool like in every other text viewer/editor application? - aaron
[2004-05-03 12:55:00] - Paul: I know. I'm not sure either. -Mel
[2004-05-03 12:51:00] - Aaron: Definitely a lot of ways that people could've gotten injured. -Paul
[2004-05-03 12:46:00] - paul: Or got crushed by the boat? - aaron
[2004-05-03 12:43:00] - Aaron: Yeah, I'm surprised nobody drowned either. -Paul
[2004-05-03 12:38:00] - paul: It sounds like it would be frightening! I'm amazed only two people were injured - aaron
[2004-05-03 12:37:00] - Aaron: I heard about that on TV this morning! The news anchors were all laughing and trying not to make jokes about it. -Paul
[2004-05-03 12:36:00] - Mel: I'm not sure if that is incredibly racist or not.
-Paul[2004-05-03 12:34:00] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Southwest/05/03/party.barge.ap/index.html Barge capsizes when its passengers all rush to one side, to look at nude sunbathers - aaron
[2004-05-03 12:31:00] - www.adaywithoutamexican.com Coming out in two weeks in California: what would happen if all the mexicans disappeared? -Mel
[2004-05-03 11:56:00] - Mullally Transfixed by J.Lo's Buttocks - "It's like staring into a fire or watching a bay. It puts you into kind of a semi- hypnotic state." - aaron
[2004-05-03 11:28:00] - Pierce: Actually, I find a lot of the headlines to be fairly humorous. -Paul
[2004-05-03 11:15:00] - http://imdb.com/news/wenn/#celeb1 you gotta love the first headline. - pierce
[2004-05-03 11:14:00] - There might be a vested interest in making the new Wonder Woman depart from the eye-candy stereotype... not by being ugly, as evidenced by the fact that Charisma Carpenter was in the running in the first place, but by being played by someone with a squeaky-clean history. - pierce
[2004-05-03 09:59:00] - Travis: Fairly recently, if I recall. I wonder why that ruined her chances. -Paul
[2004-05-03 09:50:00] - "one-time frontrunner (in the eyes of some fans, at least) for the role of Wonder Woman, Charisma Carpenter more than likely ruined her chances by posing nude for Playboy" when did she do this?
- travis[2004-05-03 09:32:00] - http://www.sinfest.net/ Pigga! -Paul
[2004-05-03 09:21:00] - http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0430/p01s01-usec.html "A 1934 law requires that any private company that reaches a certain size must provide its operation figures and finances to the federal government" -Paul
[2004-05-02 17:05:00] - yeah, when they showed "little future" - vinnie
[2004-05-01 21:51:00] - it was written on a sign in the background (for a long while; it was pretty noticeable) ~a
[2004-05-01 09:58:00] - a: They show you the written language? I didn't notice that - aaron
[2004-05-01 01:26:00] - did anybody notice that the language of the future is made exclusively from ms dos's extended ascii set? (from the most recent southpark eppisode) ~a
[2004-04-30 17:44:00] - Dewbacca! - dewey
[2004-04-30 16:21:00] - "Using a key to gouge expletives on another's car is a sign of trust and friendship" - mig
[2004-04-30 16:07:00] - pierce: that's pretty bad. well thanks, I was thinking of renting it. I saw La Femme Nikitta (French version) last night, it was excellent. -Mel
[2004-04-30 15:55:00] - i would guess "is fun", but I didn't do that one - vinnie
[2004-04-30 15:54:00] - Hey, whoever attempted to change the title, ages ago, to "Using a key to gouge expletives on another's car i": what was the end of that sentence? - pierce
[2004-04-30 15:40:00] - mel: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Duplex-1125788/ - pierce
[2004-04-30 15:35:00] - was duplex that bad? I haven't seen it but I read some good reviews. -Mel
[2004-04-30 14:57:00] - hah, jack black was with him in cable guy, so at least he's apparently not the reason ben disowned envy - travis
[2004-04-30 14:51:00] - seriously! why not duplex or cable guy or along came polly... - vinnie
[2004-04-30 14:35:00] - travis: not enough feces - aaron
[2004-04-30 14:28:00] - of all the movies ben stiller has done he's disowning envy?
- travis[2004-04-30 14:25:00] - The letter e. - burt reynolds
[2004-04-30 14:04:00] - I imagine that number is 'e'? I only know like the first three digits - vinnie
[2004-04-30 14:03:00] - apparently ben stiller disowned envy, or so I read. he didn't want it released - vinnie
[2004-04-30 13:47:00] - so maybe we're both not geeks. -Mel
[2004-04-30 13:47:00] - haha. no, because I wasn't the only one who found it funny. -Mel
[2004-04-30 13:32:00] - What if I'm cool someday? Will that be like one of the signs of the apocalypse? - pierce
[2004-04-30 13:31:00] - What, like as long as I'm a geek, you know everything is all right with the world or something? Gee, thanks a friggin bunch. - pierce
[2004-04-30 13:29:00] - odd comfort -Mel
[2004-04-30 13:29:00] - haha. well I feel some off comfort in that.
-Mel[2004-04-30 13:29:00] - But I guess we all already knew that. - pierce
[2004-04-30 13:29:00] - Dammit, I'm a geek too. - pierce
[2004-04-30 13:29:00] - hahahaha - pierce
[2004-04-30 13:28:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,63286,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 google is raising 2.7 million through an IPO. Am I a geek because I think its funny that their initial stock offering is $2,718,281,828 dollars (e)? -Mel
[2004-04-30 13:26:00] - and the only good review was from "film blather", and the exerpt basically said that the reviewer would give it the benefit of the doubt until he had absolutely no other choice... not exactly open-minded. - pierce
[2004-04-30 13:23:00] - travis: yeah, I saw that too. it's a shame, too, because you knew a jack black-ben stiller collaboration was either going to be amazingly great or amazingly bad. - pierce
[2004-04-30 13:14:00] - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Envy-1131155/ that's just about the worst score i've ever seen a movie get - travis
[2004-04-30 12:22:00] - paul: fox news is notably pro-war. ~a
[2004-04-30 11:57:00] - Anyway, I just got online from home to check some stuff. Gotta go now. ttyl -Paul
[2004-04-30 11:49:00] - Mig: Ok. Like I said, I've never seen it so I can't say. It seems to me that even a token liberal is better than having no opposing viewpoint at all like many mainstream media networks. -Paul
[2004-04-30 11:48:00] - Colmes presence on the channell is essentially just a joke, because it's so obvious that he's just their token guy for someone to disagree with Hannity. - mig
[2004-04-30 11:47:00] - I guess they do some of the time, but it's usually just a token liberal that they can pound. - mig
[2004-04-30 11:41:00] - Mig: Well, I've never seen those shows before, so I can't say. But don't most of them contain a conservative AND liberal debating the issues? -Paul
[2004-04-30 11:40:00] - at least when applied to fox news anyway. - mig
[2004-04-30 11:39:00] - Although "conservative" IMO is a misnomer. - mig
[2004-04-30 11:38:00] - - mig
[2004-04-30 11:38:00] - Paul: It's not so much in their coverage (except for Shepard Smith in Studio B) but rather the programming that they put on (Fox and Friends, Hannity and Colmes, Bill O'Reilly) that makes it known as a conservative news channel.
[2004-04-30 11:35:00] - It's kinda like Virginia Tech. For a college, it may be conservative, but it's still a lot more liberal than the general population IMHO. -Paul
[2004-04-30 11:31:00] - In fact, I've still seen more signs of liberal bias in Fox news than conservative bias, although I will say that it's not nearly as bad as ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN -Paul
[2004-04-30 11:30:00] - I've watched a little bit of Fox news, and I have to say that I don't think it's nearly as wildly conservative as people say. -Paul
[2004-04-30 11:21:00] - I came here with a simple dream. A dream of killing all humans. And this is how it must end? Who’s the real seven-billion-ton robot monster? Not I.
[2004-04-30 11:14:00] - paul is off today. he brings the interesting conversation
~a[2004-04-30 10:55:00] - rather quiet today. where is everybody. - mig
[2004-04-30 09:48:00] - mig: ahhh. Still seems odd to me though that the same corporation could have one channel that was so liberal, but another that was so conservative -dave
[2004-04-30 09:48:00] - Well I imagine they're both owned by corporate entity known as Fox, but they are 2 separate channels. - mig
[2004-04-30 09:39:00] - mig: oh, so they aren't affiliated at all? -dave
[2004-04-30 09:14:00] - travis: Tee hee. Bucky looks like a cut and paste job. That's weird to see in a comic. - aaron
[2004-04-30 09:10:00] - dave: they are two very different channels. - mig
[2004-04-30 09:08:00] - Fox is a very "liberal" channel, but Fox News is very, very, very republican. - mig
[2004-04-30 09:07:00] - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_56314.html while I'm annoyed at the whining about discrimination, i find it very amusing that the police departments actually has a policy of not hiring people who are too smart. - mig
[2004-04-30 09:05:00] - not from listening to them, but I thought they were one of the more liberal channels as far as programming went? I may be way off base since I don't watch much tv -dave
[2004-04-30 09:04:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53974-2004Apr29.html Cheney Praises Fox News Channel. "Fox News styles its coverage as "fair and balanced," but it has a heavy stable of conservative commentators that makes it a favorite around the White House. " Wow, Fox would have been the last channel I thought would have been conservative. -dave
[2004-04-30 09:00:00] - only aaron and vinnie will care: http://comics.com/comics/pearls/archive/images/pearls2004036603430.gif - travis
[2004-04-29 17:57:00] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1792200 wow, the op-ed has drawn the attention of espn. - mig
[2004-04-29 16:25:00] - paul: yup yup -dave
[2004-04-29 16:18:00] - Whether they're exploded, or just nonbelievers, I guess we'll have to wait and see - aaron
[2004-04-29 16:18:00] - mig: Well there's going to be a lot less jewish people celebrating the sabbath this saturday - aaron
[2004-04-29 16:16:00] - Dave: Definitely. I personally think that there are just as many beautiful people who AREN'T hollywood stars or famous or whatever that you never hear about. -Paul
[2004-04-29 16:13:00] - i dunno, i just heard about it on the radio. - mig
[2004-04-29 16:12:00] - paul: somewhat of a tangent, but the whole media causing medals thing is sorta like popularity / media getting people onto the 50 most beautiful people list ^_^ -dave
[2004-04-29 16:11:00] - mig: hebrew book of daniel? are there different versions? if not, what specifically is the reference? -dave
[2004-04-29 16:10:00] - paul: definitely, the skepticism would be quite warranted -dave
[2004-04-29 16:02:00] - Dave: Well, all I know is that I am highly skeptical now of whenever I hear about how some brave hero soldier died in Iraq or something because I feel that the term has been mis-used too often. -Paul
[2004-04-29 15:59:00] - heh, apparently tomorrow is supposed to be armagaddon according to the hebrew book of daniel. - mig
[2004-04-29 15:56:00] - paul: I think she did. But I vaguely remember something about her "quick action" saving one of her friends in the humvee with her (shrug) -dave
[2004-04-29 15:49:00] - Dave: I'm by no means an expert on military medals so you're probably right. But from the perspective of Joe Public, it certainly seems like we're just handing out medals if you get your name in the paper (I wonder, did that girl whose sisters wanted to stay home get a medal?) -Paul
[2004-04-29 15:47:00] - paul: One of my officemates who was in the Navy says the exact same thing about medals. I think it's a pretty common viewpoint - aaron
[2004-04-29 15:45:00] - paul: I believe it's also a matter of what exact medal you get - tho I have no idea which medals they got -dave
[2004-04-29 15:45:00] - paul: it's true that people sometimes get medals becaues of media / public opinion. However, when you compare it to the number of medals given, it's probably quite a small percentage. -dave
[2004-04-29 15:35:00] - As an example, I used to think that getting awarded a medal in the military was worth something, but after seeing Jessica Lynch get one simply for being a female and being shot at, and then seeing Tillman get one for essentially being famous and getting killed, I've lost a lot of respect for those medals. -Paul
[2004-04-29 15:34:00] - Dave: I don't mind thinking better of people, but I think that when we start throwing around the term hero so often, it starts to lose some of it's meaning. -paul
[2004-04-29 15:32:00] - most everyone's motives for their actions boil down to pretty selfish / unpalatable things if it is stripped bare. Yet we all have/want people to think better of us -dave
[2004-04-29 15:30:00] - for the Pat Tillman issue, I don't have a problem with thinking the best of someone after they are dead. It's true that he probably wasn't the glowing hero everyone makes him out to be, but unless someone comes up with facts otherwise, what's the harm in thinking the best of him? -dave
[2004-04-29 15:29:00] - Vinnie: But don't you think the author could've done a better job of informing without resorting to using inflammatory remarks? -paul
[2004-04-29 15:17:00] - you may not change people's mind with op-eds, but you at least get information out there. i know I've certainly learned stuff from op-eds that have led to me forming opinions on subjects i didn't have an opinion on - vinnie
[2004-04-29 14:09:00] - Mig: I would hope that would be their intention at least. Why else would you write an op-ed? -Paul
[2004-04-29 14:09:00] - http://www.collegiatetimes.com/index.php?ID=3817 It's a shame, and kinda weird, that recruiting was slow at Miami. -Paul
[2004-04-29 14:08:00] - nah it won't change anyone's mind probably, but honestly do anyone who writes an op-ed really think they'll change anyone's mind. - mig
[2004-04-29 13:54:00] - http://miller.senate.gov/press/2004/04-28-04%2017th%20amendment.html interesting article about repealing the 17th amendment. - mig
[2004-04-29 13:47:00] - Mig: Heh, I guess. Except this isn't going to change anybody's mind. It's just going to piss off those who disagree. -Paul
[2004-04-29 13:45:00] - paul: true he may not have been a macho man, but everybody else has just been automatically assumed he just joined out of some sense of selfless patriotism, so i guess it cancels out. - mig
[2004-04-29 13:37:00] - Travis: I totally agree. We call him a hero because he was well known before and died over there. For all we know he was a coward who ran from every fight. -Paul
[2004-04-29 13:36:00] - I dislike the tone of that article, though, because it seems like it was intentionally written to exagerate things and piss people off instead of just express his opinion. -Paul
[2004-04-29 13:36:00] - no one's even considered he might've gone to the war because he's some warrior that needed an adrenaline fix (there are guys in every war that don't want it to end because then they can't keep killing) - travis
[2004-04-29 13:33:00] - Mig: I agree that we too often rush to call people a hero in today's society, but I don't think it's fair to say that Tillman was an idiot or doing what he did out of a sense of machoness. -Paul
[2004-04-29 13:33:00] - my big complaint with the pat tillman issue is that he's not the first/last/only guy to die there, but he's being held up as some kind of hero just because he was an overpaid athlete - travis
[2004-04-29 13:29:00] - Travis: Or not all boys become men. -Paul
[2004-04-29 13:28:00] - Paul: yes yes, that's just the old adage that not all kids become adults - travis
[2004-04-29 13:28:00] - and of course this article is getting universally blasted in the sports forums i'm looking at that's discussing it, and the newspaper that ran it is taking a lot of heat for it. - mig
[2004-04-29 13:27:00] - http://www.dailycollegian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/04/28/408f27f0591be?in_archive=1 a very scathing article on Pat Tillman. A bit harsh, but I'm pretty much in agreement with it. - mig
[2004-04-29 13:15:00] - Dave: I've been thinking about it, and I think the change from a girl to a woman is all about maturity instead of age. Some females never become women. -Paul
[2004-04-29 13:08:00] - Mig: Also, they aren't saying the severity of the hit. I'm guessing they are taking reports where cyclists get nudged by cars and projecting them as happening much more often (but not being reported) and using those to count as hits. -Paul
[2004-04-29 13:05:00] - nmind, comes out to about 75k car hits/ year, which i guess wouldn't be all that innacurate. - mig
[2004-04-29 13:02:00] - Every 7 minutes, a pedestrian or cyclist is hit. Does anyone think that's a stat that's a wee bit inflated? - mig
[2004-04-29 13:00:00] - i call myself a girl unless i'm feeling particularly assertive, i guess -kris
[2004-04-29 12:42:00] - I tend to go back and forth between referring to women as girls, females, or women. -Paul
[2004-04-29 12:41:00] - I was just curious how the media determines how to refer to females. -Paul
[2004-04-29 12:33:00] - haha. I don't think that criteria works then. -Mel
[2004-04-29 12:31:00] - Kris: I can see 14 year old girls considering themselves women.
-Paul[2004-04-29 12:23:00] - paul: 16 year old girls consider themselves women... but i imagine the eyes of the law don't agree -kris
[2004-04-29 12:14:00] - Dave: I have no idea, I guess 18 would make sense but for some reason I thought it was 16. -Paul
[2004-04-29 12:09:00] - paul: 20 would be the age I would personally peg the change from girl to woman -dave
[2004-04-29 12:07:00] - paul: isn't age of consent 18? -dave
[2004-04-29 11:56:00] - Vinnie: Because we can trust Britney Spears to have the answers to all of life's questions. -Paul
[2004-04-29 11:51:00] - well, how old was britney spears when she sung "i'm not a girl, not yet a woman?" therein lies your answer - vinnie
[2004-04-29 11:50:00] - Oh, and for whatever reason I thought 16 was the age a girl became a woman. What is the age of consent again? -Paul
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