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[2004-05-13 15:00:00] - i'd probably be more eager to write (i.e. make time to write instead of waiting for time) if i could find a like-minded comic book artist so i could try out comic book script writing - travis
[2004-05-13 14:58:00] - Travis: I wouldn't worry. Chances are that YOU can't do anything wrong. Hell, if their husbands catch you staring at them I'm sure the women would be in more trouble than you.
-Paul[2004-05-13 14:57:00] - Travis: Hey, I'm not squeamish. I was the one who was disappointed when the violence and sex left your writing and called for more of it. After the story about the girl with glittering eyes, I think your story about Jack the Ripper is my favorite. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:57:00] - paul: hehe, except i know not to check out the girls at my gym, since they're all indian/pakistani/etc which seem to be the most traditional (and married
) - travis[2004-05-13 14:56:00] - Travis: The ironic thing is that I just recently bought three computer games and am generally more busy than normal and yet I've been finding time to write a chapter of a story.
-Paul[2004-05-13 14:56:00] - maybe i won't be so frustrated with life and you squeamish guys won't have to put up with all the violence
- travis[2004-05-13 14:55:00] - Travis: Working out = Objectifying women by checking them out?
-Paul[2004-05-13 14:55:00] - maybe once i've knocked off a PS2 game or two, the playoffs are over, and i get a decent chunk of my NetFlix queue taken care of, i'll get back to writing - travis
[2004-05-13 14:54:00] - my writing: i've been sidetracked by a lot of other stuff (PS2 games, NetFlix, StarCraft, NBA playoffs, working out, reading books i've owned for months but never read...) so writing has been put on the backburner for now - travis
[2004-05-13 14:50:00] - Vinnie: Have you ever know me to NOT be ambidextrous?
-Paul[2004-05-13 14:47:00] - paul: good. your smilie was ambiguous
- vinnie[2004-05-13 14:46:00] - Vinnie: I know she's in California, if that's what you mean. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:43:00] - no, about lunch at 3:00 - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:42:00] - yeah! i meant to ask you travis: when are we gonna see more stories? - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:42:00] - Vinnie: About the overalls? I thought we were discussing the various things used to make pretty girls look "ugly". -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:42:00] - Travis: I don't know if you're still here, but are you planning on going through with your western story? -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:41:00] - i hope you're joking paul - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:41:00] - Mel: Lunch at 3:00 in the afternoon? You're crazy.
Enjoy your food. -Paul[2004-05-13 14:40:00] - damn, I have to go to lunch. -mel
[2004-05-13 14:40:00] - Vinnie: Definitely, and the overalls. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:40:00] - I was half joking too, but really I agree. -mel
[2004-05-13 14:39:00] - vinnie: haha. exactly. thats the target female. -mel
[2004-05-13 14:39:00] - Mel: Heh, well I was half joking, but I definitely agree. The best girls are almost certainly the ones that nobody seems to consider 'hot' -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:38:00] - don't forget the glasses that hide their inner (er, outer) beauty - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:38:00] - Paul: yes, thats the secret. Look for those "pretty ugly" girls who are just waiting to be brought out of their shell. Very stereotypically teen movie. Like "Never Been Kissed." -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:37:00] - I figured. I don't take things too personally. -mel
[2004-05-13 14:37:00] - Well, the guys that go for the music generally aren't going to be approaching women. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:36:00] - mel: right, same with me. that falls under b. - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:36:00] - Mel: By 'you' I don't mean you specifically, but the general 'you'. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:35:00] - vinnie: well I go because I like the music. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:34:00] - yeah, my impression of what guys want to do at clubs was a. hook-up or b. dance. not c. start a relationship. I just figured girls there were the same way - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:33:00] - I personally never talk to guys at clubs. because its so rare to meet a guy at the club who cares about who you are as a person. They almost always are already objectifying you. I am way more likely to a talk to a guy in any other situation. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:32:00] - Mel: That's why you should always go for the "ugly" girls.
-Paul[2004-05-13 14:30:00] - Paul: well that's one strategy.
-Mel[2004-05-13 14:30:00] - believability is extremely important. So it matters a lot how the guy looks too. If he's really hot, thats good because the girl is more likely to be flattered. But she's also probably going to be more distrusting initially. Unless she's relly hot too... -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:29:00] - Travis: Just make sure to buy her a drink, that'll help her lower her guard.
-Paul[2004-05-13 14:29:00] - Travis: Because eventually I imagine I would have to change at the gym. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:27:00] - travis: so its more likely at a club that you'll get shot down too. You ahve less time to make an impression because the girl may already be skeptical of your intentions. -mel
[2004-05-13 14:27:00] - travis: yes it is. But then you get a lot of sleazy guys there too. I think its better to meet girls at a more random location that implies shared interests. Like a concert or a coffeeshop or something. At clubs you get a split between the girls who are lookign to meet a guy and the girls who have their guard up to protect from sleazy guys. mel
[2004-05-13 14:26:00] - Paul: why not? you never changed in the gym at mccomas anyway, so you just get to enjoy the show
- travis[2004-05-13 14:26:00] - that were was indeed my reference - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:25:00] - vinnie: at least homer didn't suspect anything so he could be perfectly happy with that (if that was indeed your reference) - travis
[2004-05-13 14:24:00] - Travis: If the locker rooms were co-ed, then I would NEVER go to the gym.
-Paul[2004-05-13 14:24:00] - mel: that would be my only reason to ever to go a club, it's more acceptable to randomly approach women - travis
[2004-05-13 14:24:00] - "you're cool, paul!" "sandra, that was really mean!" - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:24:00] - Vinnie: For homosexuals?
-Paul[2004-05-13 14:23:00] - travis: I know, thats how I felt for years too, like maybe this was leading into some sort of joke. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:23:00] - /w travis I still feel that way. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:23:00] - paul: either single sex gyms all the way through, or make the locker rooms co-ed
- travis[2004-05-13 14:23:00] - there almost certainly is a market for single-sex gyms. same purpose as single-sex bars
- vinnie[2004-05-13 14:23:00] - travis: well, regardless it objectifies the woman. but sometimes are more ok than other times. Like say, at a club. Women dress up for a club and try to look good. they often are trying to get guys to check them out at a club. So thats more ok. -mel
[2004-05-13 14:22:00] - Mel: hehe, sounds kinda like how i felt in high school, that if any girl had ever come over to talk to me i would've been instantly suspicious someone was making fun of me somehow - travis
[2004-05-13 14:21:00] - I wonder if there would be a market for single sex gyms? I know that I would prefer a gym with only men and it sounds like many women might prefer it too. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:21:00] - Mel: well, i would guess there's no real time a woman wants to be checked out because that in itself is kind of offensive since it objectifies the person, right? - travis
[2004-05-13 14:21:00] - Travis: Yes.
Don't worry, I'm not that incompetent yet. -Paul[2004-05-13 14:20:00] - But most women when they are at the gym feel unattractive. So when they get hit on, they will not think that they are attractive all of a sudden. Its more loikely that they will think the guy just hits on anyone and the guy is somewhat sleazy. So they won't take getting hit on well. Thats my theory -mel
[2004-05-13 14:20:00] - paul: were you trying to whisper as a joke? - travis
[2004-05-13 14:19:00] - travis: so although the degree to which each woman would find it offensive varies, I doubt any significant percentage would want to be checked out at the gym. You said that you think they could take it as a compliment. But.. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:17:00] - travis: yes, I think most women would be offended. Women go to the gym because they feel that they need to improve their appearance. Most of the time they think they need to lose weight. So they probably don't feel so good about themselves while they're at the gym. They are probably sweaty. Self-conscious. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:17:00] - Mel: You're probably right. It depends on how much their fame is based of off the fact that they are twins. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:16:00] - /w travis I'll bet she says it's not a good idea. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:15:00] - Paul: short term spike, yes. I think long term sales would be hurt a little. -mel
[2004-05-13 14:14:00] - mel: well then, i'm interested in hearing a female's opinion, and you're the only female ever here - travis
[2004-05-13 14:14:00] - Travis: There ya go. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:13:00] - Vinnie: Actually, they were kinda talking about that on Letterman about how they don't want to be called the Olsen Twins anymore (presumably because they want to be known as two distinct people). I think the surviving twin's career would do just fine and might even get a little spike from the other's death. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:13:00] - paul: i think it was just that i picked all the non-girly answers - travis
[2004-05-13 14:12:00] - it said they're working on a similar site for the hilton sisters, whether that's a joke or not isn't clear - travis
[2004-05-13 14:12:00] - Mel: Of all the people here, he's the one that got that message. I guess it makes some sense, since they are probably too squeaky clean for Travis' tastes. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:12:00] - travis: sorry I missed your earlier question about working out. I do have an opinion about it though. -mel
[2004-05-13 14:11:00] - i like how the title says "images of mary-kate olsen". morbid thought of the day: would one of them have a career if the other died? - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:11:00] - well yes, I think they are better too (olsen vs hilton). But its funny that travis got that message. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:10:00] - Travis: Ew, but she's wearing a beret. I guess I go for the t-shirt look over the suit though. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:09:00] - http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0363282/Ss/0363282/D7_015.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Olsen,%20Mary-Kate whichever one is in the metallica shirt is obviously the better one
- travis[2004-05-13 14:08:00] - No matter what you think of the Olsen Twins, I think most people would agree that they are far better than the Hilton sisters.
-Paul[2004-05-13 14:08:00] - haha. cool travis. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:07:00] - Travis: Oh man, I'm so sorry to hear. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:07:00] - Paul: ah. yes, thats probably the case based on what I know about mary kate and ashley. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:07:00] - i took the quiz and it said i'm not suitable for either olsen twin and should look into finding out which hilton sister is best for me
- travis[2004-05-13 14:06:00] - http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/5/5/165728/6687 the Ads don't stop. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:06:00] - Mel: My opinion that Travis would like Mary Kate more? Because if I recall correctly, and I could be wrong, but I thought she was the gothier one. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:06:00] - Mel: That's probably why we'll never get ads like that. People just aren't likely to put up with something so intrusive. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:05:00] - vinnie: yes. -mel
[2004-05-13 14:05:00] - travis: are you there? -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:05:00] - mary kate is the shy one, right? - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:05:00] - Paul: what do you base that opinion on? -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:04:00] - Vinnie: I'll bet Travis was Mary Kate. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:04:00] - Paul: me either. I don't see a problem but people wouldn't want similar ads blasted about. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:04:00] - Mel: Hard to say. I doubt it, but he could be lurking in the corner somewhere. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:03:00] - Paul: really?
I don't think I would either. -Mel[2004-05-13 14:03:00] - Mel: Oh, ok. Understood. Having said that, I don't see a problem with it as long as the girls give it up voluntarily. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:03:00] - Paul: ah! no, I missed that, I must have left by then. I did read the original conversation on that. cool. Yes, I have an opinion. Is travis around right now? -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:03:00] - Mel: Yeah, it said I would get along better with her too. Truth be told, I don't think I would get along with either particularly well. -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:02:00] - Paul: to calrify, I can think of a lot of items related to mary kate and ashley that people would want to buy but probably wouldn't discuss at work. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:02:00] - i was ashley too - vinnie
[2004-05-13 14:02:00] - This one "Mel: if you're still around, i'd be most interested in hearing your opinion on my first posted question this morning:"would a woman be offended if a guy were checking her out while she was working out?" my theory being that she cares about her looks so that guys will notice her - travis" -Paul
[2004-05-13 14:01:00] - pierce: I can imagine. just looking forward to the next entry. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:00:00] - Paul: don't remember specifically, which question by travis? -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:00:00] - Mel: I appreciate the sentiment.
Yeah, I've missed writing them, but it's been an insane couple of weeks. - pierce[2004-05-13 14:00:00] - Paul: I did take that quiz and apparently I would get along better with ashley than mary kate. haha. -Mel
[2004-05-13 14:00:00] - Mel: Ah. Did you see Travis' question then? -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:59:00] - Mel: Whoa. Wait a second. You have a lot of stuff about the Olsen Twins that isn't safe for work?
-Paul[2004-05-13 13:59:00] - Paul: no, I caught up on it yesterday after you left. That's why i chose this particular example. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:59:00] - uberlong for pierce = it will devour us all - vinnie
[2004-05-13 13:58:00] - I wouldn't buy a lock of Mary Kate's hair. Now if it were Ashley's...
Seriously, though, I'm not so sure there is anything wrong with an old man finding a young girl attractive (you missed the big bruha about this). -Paul[2004-05-13 13:58:00] - pierce: ooh, that would be cool. I've been missing your journal entries. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:57:00] - Paul: I can think of a lot of stuff, but maybe I should not post on the message board since this is supposed to be safe for work. the point is, I'm sure we can all imagine stuff people buy that they wouldn't announce to the whole world. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:57:00] - I might have to do another uberlong advertising journal entry one of these days, to talk about the baseball plates thing and the development of google. - pierce
[2004-05-13 13:56:00] - Paul: maybe, they are almost 18.
No, maybe pictures of them. How about a lock of Mary kate's hair? -Mel[2004-05-13 13:54:00] - Mel: Wait, what exactly is this Mary Kate and Ashley ad selling? The girls themselves? -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:54:00] - That would be awesome. Having ads for marijuana and child porn and the KKK wherever you go.
-Paul[2004-05-13 13:53:00] - Vinnie: It actually sounds quite doable. In theory they have a general idea of where you are since they just scanned your retina, so they can use one of those targeted sound dealies to target the sound at you and ignore everyone else. Of course, there would still be that stupid picture of the guy with the big smile to deal with. -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:52:00] - hehe, that's true. or travis getting an ad about emma watson - vinnie
[2004-05-13 13:52:00] - inacceptable = unacceptable
[2004-05-13 13:52:00] - vinnie: well I think the worst would be anythign that implied some sort of social inacceptable deviancy. Anything really taboo. Like say an old guy getting an ad about mary kate and ashley. -mel
[2004-05-13 13:50:00] - mel: i haven't thought it through yet. that's for scientists to figure out. I just come up with the name - vinnie
[2004-05-13 13:49:00] - maybe the worst you could get would be hygiene products - vinnie
[2004-05-13 13:48:00] - vinnie: would it be even louder? or would it somehow silence the billboards with some sort of interference? -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:48:00] - well, i hopefully assume billboards wouldn't do stuff like that unless people allowed it, like how we have restrictions now - vinnie
[2004-05-13 13:47:00] - then some company would create a product to muffle the billboards. the loud guy shutter-upper - vinnie
[2004-05-13 13:46:00] - Mel: Exactly. Then ads for Viagra or STD medication would REALLY be embarassing... -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:45:00] - Paul: wow, all kinds of personal info could bve revealed by loud smart ads. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:44:00] - Paul: haha. that would be so funny. good point. everyone around you would know what stuff you buy -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:44:00] - collecting information about the public through their searches seems like a pretty effective idea to me. Like amazon's ads but more extreme. Amazon pitches similar items to you. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:43:00] - What bothers me is when I start walking down the street and billboards start blaring out "Paul! Buy the new XXX porn DVD!"
-Paul[2004-05-13 13:42:00] - My problem with it definitely comes from concerns about privacy. But maybe it wouldn't be that bad if all the ads were relevant.. hard to say because its somewhat hard to imagine. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:41:00] - vinnie: oh, thats so true! because you remember them. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:40:00] - you know what I actually worry about? that annoying ads are the most effective ones - vinnie
[2004-05-13 13:40:00] - like additional ads are annoying, but if somehow every ad I normally see that I dislike or didn't apply to me was suddenly changed to something I did like, I'd be fine with that. to hell with consumer privacy!
- vinnie[2004-05-13 13:39:00] - I'll worry when retinal scans start getting that pervasive.
-paul[2004-05-13 13:37:00] - Mel+Vinnie: I kinda agree. On one hand, I understood that Spielberg was trying to explain how scary this was and I agree that it could certainly be a bad thing, but on the other hand I would much rather see ads for new movies and electronics than seeing another tampon or Viagra ad. -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:36:00] - honestly i'm surprised they've managed to have no illustrated ads for so long - vinnie
[2004-05-13 13:35:00] - it might not be scary. you might get to see ads that better target you - vinnie
[2004-05-13 13:33:00] - Paul: yes, thats what scares me. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:30:00] - Mel: Yupyup. You're thinking that's the direction that google is moving towards? -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:28:00] - Paul: Do you remember those talking billboards that has personalized ads for each person? -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:24:00] - Mel: Yes. -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:24:00] - Mel: You want to own your own business? Why? What kind of business? -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:24:00] - Paul: Have you seen minority report? -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:24:00] - Paul: yes, you're right and its a very consistent distinction. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:22:00] - I am addicted to magazines. I get US News, Inc, Fortune, Forbes, Business Week, Fast Company. So I can dream about having my own business one day. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:21:00] - Mel: I'm an idealist when I talk about how things SHOULD be. When it comes to dealing with the world, I think I'm almost entirely a cynic. -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:20:00] - Mel: Heh, well, it doesn't really say anything negative about you, I'm just surprised that you would have a subscription to it for some reason. -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:19:00] - Paul: yes, an idealist. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:19:00] - Mel: Are you implying I have something in me besides a cynic? -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:16:00] - Paul: yeah, what does that say about me? I have been getting the magazine for 8 years. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:16:00] - Paul: I had more hope for google. That was the cycnic in you, wasn't it? -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:15:00] - Mel: You have a subscription to US News?
-Paul[2004-05-13 13:15:00] - Lately US News has been making their cover with a flap that opens to reveal an ad. I can't believe the cover of the magazine has an ad. Makes me think sell-out. Its one thing to put ads inside the magazine. but on the cover? I am going to cancel my subscription. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:14:00] - *Shrug* It was just a matter of time. -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:11:00] - http://news.com.com/2100-1024_3-5211662.html?tag=nefd.top Google will start selling banner ads.
-Mel[2004-05-13 13:10:00] - Mel: Because normally men have to move during sex, I would assume.
-Paul[2004-05-13 13:09:00] - a: oh cool. I have never been to iowa. pack then. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:08:00] - Paul: yes, i think it would be worse but I haven't thought through why. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:07:00] - My cousin is getting married in iowa. ~a
[2004-05-13 13:07:00] - Mel: yes and yes. ~a
[2004-05-13 13:07:00] - a: pack for what anyway? -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:07:00] - Mel: Falling asleep during sex would probably be even worse for a man. -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:06:00] - a: Don't pack! -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:06:00] - Mel: We all have our stupid moments. I'm sure I have done, and continue to do, worse stuff then that. -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:06:00] - a: go pack! have you fallen asleep in either situation? -mel
[2004-05-13 13:05:00] - I've fallen asleep driving too. Falling asleep during sex would be quite sad. but I still don't think it would be very dangerous. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:04:00] - too many questions. i have to pack
someone tell me to go pack. ~a[2004-05-13 13:04:00] - Paul: It was not one of my smarter moments. I should not have been soldering. I was being very unrealistic. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:03:00] - a: No and no. -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:03:00] - a: what do PCB's taste like? -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:02:00] - a: is sex potentially dangerous? -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:02:00] - i like bread boards. they don't require a breading iron and they don't taste like solder (they taste like bread) ~a
[2004-05-13 13:02:00] - a: are you being serious? You have a really good knack for sarcasm. I was making a radio for a class at school. Soldering capacitors and resistors onto a board. -Mel
[2004-05-13 13:01:00] - Paul: And what about during sex?
[2004-05-13 13:01:00] - you've never fallen asleep driving, paul? ~a
[2004-05-13 13:01:00] - so if i ever consider taking someone to the hospital for whatever reason, then they have alcohol poisoning. gotcha. ~a
[2004-05-13 13:00:00] - Mel: I don't know if I've EVER been so tired that I could stay awake while actually doing something (especially something dangerous). -Paul
[2004-05-13 13:00:00] - a: I just looked up the definition for alcohol poisoning. If the person's skin is blusish, that's also a sign of alcohol poisoning. When a person gets alcohol poisoning, they have consumed so much alcohol that you should consider taking them to the hospital. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:59:00] - mel: what do you solder? every year i secretly wish someone will give me a soldering iron for christmas
~a[2004-05-13 12:59:00] - Paul: just normal college stuff. Too much homework. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:57:00] - Mel: And why were you sleep deprived? -Paul
[2004-05-13 12:57:00] - Paul: sleep deprivation. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:56:00] - Mel: Uh, and why did you fall asleep while soldering? -Paul
[2004-05-13 12:56:00] - Mel: Hey, I never said I stopped doing them.
Although nobody ever seems to want to join me anymore. 
-Paul[2004-05-13 12:55:00] - I'll just chalk up to another lesson learned. Like don't fall asleep while soldering. I did that once and actually dropped the soldering iron on my hand, burning myself and in the process waking myself up. Thats another good story.
-Mel[2004-05-13 12:55:00] - Mel: I would't worry about it. I used to feel guilty about doing stuff that might've made other people want to do stuff but then I realized that it's really ultimately their decision so I can't really blame myself for it. -Paul
[2004-05-13 12:54:00] - Paul: Those contest usually end badly. I don't do drinking contests anymore either. Too high s risk of bad stuff happening. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:53:00] - Mel: I remember one time when I told one of my friends that I would match him three shots to one. I lost.
-Paul[2004-05-13 12:52:00] - Paul: me too sometimes.
-Mel[2004-05-13 12:52:00] - a: She was actually trying to match me shot for shot so I felt really guilty about the whole thing. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:52:00] - Mel: Still, it was her own stupid decision. Man I hate women. -Paul
[2004-05-13 12:51:00] - a: well the rest of the story is that my boss had some self-esteem issues that I knew about. She doesn't drink too often and she wanted to fit in at the party so she started doing shots. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:50:00] - paul: lies lies lies. yeah. ~a
[2004-05-13 12:49:00] - a: Hey! You did that at my house once.
-Paul[2004-05-13 12:49:00] - a: If there is, I doubt we're going to hear it from Mel.
-Paul[2004-05-13 12:48:00] - a: I'm not sure what the exact definition of alcohol poisoning is. I could look it up and I probably will in a sec. But here's my definition: when a person consumes so much alcohol that they are in danger of no longer functioning properly. Usually they stop responding to any sort of stimulus. Eyes glaze over and breathing gets shallow. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:47:00] - paul: maybe there's more to the story . . . ~a
[2004-05-13 12:47:00] - Mel: Seems kinda wrong that somebody so unwilling to accept blame for their own mistakes was in charge of others. -Paul
[2004-05-13 12:46:00] - what exactly is alcohol poisoning? i mean, how hard is it to get and how do you know when you (or someone) has it?? ~a
[2004-05-13 12:45:00] - Mel: Oh, you misunderstand. I wasn't really asking because I want to flirt at work. It was just a pure hypothetical. No need to worry about me.
-Paul[2004-05-13 12:45:00] - Paul: I know, I found it funny too thats why I posted the story. But it was also really not funny to deal with the bad work environment day after day. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:45:00] - I tend to agree, though. I was just wondering because it seems like playful flirting around here is somewhat common and it throws me off a bit. -Paul
[2004-05-13 12:45:00] - Paul: I would say flirt if you want but just be aware of the high stakes. Relationships that may have turned bad anyway are worse if you have to deal with the person every day because of work. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:44:00] - Mel: Heh, I'm sorry, but I actually find that kinda humorous (although I'm sure you don't). -Paul
[2004-05-13 12:44:00] - doh. ~a
[2004-05-13 12:42:00] - At my previous job, I threw a party and a bunch of Intel people went to it, including my boss (who was my friend at the time). She got totally smashed to the point that she got alcohol poisoning and was really embarassed by it. And then she took it out on me at work. Very bad experience. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:41:00] - Seriously thought, I think in general its a bad idea. In fact, after my bad experience at my previous job, my new plan is to keep work entitely seperate from my social life. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:39:00] - hahaha. Nice answer. -Mel
[2004-05-13 12:38:00] - i say fuckem now and ask questions later. ~a
[2004-05-13 12:38:00] - paul: pierce just doesn't want you to get any play. he's a cock-blocker. ~a
[2004-05-13 12:37:00] - it's risky business *cue tom cruise in underwear* - vinnie
[2004-05-13 12:32:00] - Pierce: So basically, the answer is that it's not a good idea? -Paul
[2004-05-13 12:26:00] - Because no one wants to be unwelcomely hassled at work. - pierce
[2004-05-13 12:26:00] - Also, it's very touchy. You really have to be on the lookout for any signs that the flirting isn't welcome, and discontinue it immediately if that's the case. - pierce
[2004-05-13 12:25:00] - Paul: depends on who it is. Obviously, no flirting with a superior or someone lower than you on the totem pole. And ideally, not someone who you actually work with (so someone from another dept is okay). - pierce
[2004-05-13 12:19:00] - Ok, so who thinks it's wrong to flirt with people at work? -Paul
[2004-05-13 11:27:00] - a: my bad, I didn't read the article, I just read the arguments (what can you expect? it was a slashdot article...) - aaron
[2004-05-13 11:22:00] - 1 highway/0 city - mcbain
[2004-05-13 11:20:00] - a: I know what I do is just divide the number of miles I've driven since my last fill-up by the amount of gas I put into my car and that usually gives me a pretty accurate sounding number.
-Paul[2004-05-13 11:17:00] - the EPA tests are done by scientists in a field test. it's not done realtime and it's what gets slapped on the side of your car before you buy it. ~a
[2004-05-13 11:16:00] - you're talking about gas milage that is output in your car and i'm talking about the EPA tests. ~a
[2004-05-13 11:16:00] - plus you know the weight of the specific grade . . . oh wait, you know what? we're talking about two completely different things here. ~a
[2004-05-13 11:15:00] - a: You want to siphon the gas out of the tank every 2 seconds to measure gas consumption? - aaron
[2004-05-13 11:15:00] - you don't measure the gas when the car is running. ~a
[2004-05-13 11:14:00] - a: The weight of gasoline varies with the grade of gasoline, not to mention acceleration of the vehicle - aaron
[2004-05-13 11:13:00] - siphon ~a
[2004-05-13 11:13:00] - and weight isn't a terrible idea (although i like the other ones much better). what else does a car expend except gas (and the byproducts of the gas) ~a
[2004-05-13 11:12:00] - aaron: they can probably measure the gas as it gets put into the engine. or they could cyphin (sp?) the remaining gas out of the tank. ~a
[2004-05-13 11:11:00] - aaron: ok, you were serious. scientists are smart . . . how the hell to you measure the emmisions of a car? breath it in and rate how much the exaust hurts your lungs? ~a
[2004-05-13 11:06:00] - pierce: I agree, it would be very difficult playing something like Mario Kart 64 with a digital stick. We'll have to wait and see. - aaron
[2004-05-13 11:05:00] - a: But it's a liquid. How are you going to measure that? A laser? Some kind of dipstick mechanism? Weight? Every measurement system I can think of is flawed - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:46:00] - what N64 games would work well with the DS? i thought the idea of the ds was to make games that would utilize two screens
- vinnie[2004-05-13 10:46:00] - aaron: re: gas milage (i can't tell if you were kidding or not) . . . uhh, if they're measuring emmisions from a car, then they can easily measure the gas in a tank (i.e. open the car, take the gas tank out . . . or put something in the tank that can more easily measure). ~a
[2004-05-13 10:41:00] - aaron: I'm not too worried about how it's going to look, but rather that the control system probably won't be advanced enough for an enjoyable true-3d game. Not to mention that the N64 just had a lot of weak games, IMO. - pierce
[2004-05-13 10:41:00] - paul: Definitely crystal chronicles - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:38:00] - Aaron: Or maybe Crystal Chronicles? -Paul
[2004-05-13 10:38:00] - pierce: Have you seen the 3D screenshots from the DS? It actually looks really good - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:37:00] - aaron: yeah, I didn't know that the plan for the DS was largely devoted to N64 games. Hopefully they'll stick with mostly 2D (or isometric) games once they see the market response. - pierce
[2004-05-13 10:35:00] - I think the fact that it's a touchscreen will be an important distinction. It means that developers will actually see a clear advantage to using it (so they don't have to have nonintuitive user interfaces that use the "A" and "B" buttons) - pierce
[2004-05-13 10:34:00] - paul: Think of how a game like Diablo would be enhanced if your potions and scrolls were always visible, and usable by touch - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:33:00] - paul: I saw some screenshots, it looked pretty nice. A lot of times the bottom screen was used for something like a map, or an item screen - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:33:00] - Unless you count games like the X-Men arcade game. -Paul
[2004-05-13 10:33:00] - pierce: Imagine the possibilities! Giraffe.... in color! - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:33:00] - Pierce: The problem is that I can't remember ever seeing a game in which two screens was ever pulled off well. -Paul
[2004-05-13 10:30:00] - I'm reserving judgement on the split-screen thing. If done right (game designers, I'm looking in your direction) it could be a very good thing. But done wrong, it's a completely pointless waste of development dollars and battery life. - pierce
[2004-05-13 10:29:00] - I'm not so psyched that all of the planned titles are merely rereleases of old N64 games - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:28:00] - I remember back in the early days of CD-ROM, a lot of drives required the discs to be in jewel case-like things when they were inserted. I think that would be a good solution to the fragility of discs as a medium now. Kind of like the way the minidisc works. - pierce
[2004-05-13 10:28:00] - Wireless multiplayer could be really, really cool . It's the most appealing feature of the system right now - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:27:00] - Boo to Nintendo for a silly split screen idea (of course, what do I know?). Boo to sony for using a questionable disc format (again, what do I know?). -Paul
[2004-05-13 10:25:00] - Yay for more products incorporating bluetooth. Boo to Sony for sullying their good backwards-compatibility track record. Yay for Nintendo for realizing that backwards-compatibility is worth having two game slots. - pierce
[2004-05-13 10:21:00] - I know I woudn't feel comfortable just tossing 6 discs in my backpack for a long trip - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:21:00] - travis: Is this going to be the first portable gaming system to use a disc format? We'll have to see how this works out - aaron
[2004-05-13 10:06:00] - http://www.marykateorashley.com/ Mary Kate or Ashley? Technically safe for work, although it has a rather large picture of them two of them on the main page. -Paul
[2004-05-13 10:02:00] - Travis: hehehehehe. I definitely see that. - pierce
[2004-05-13 09:42:00] - There's also the issue of the guy being held for 13 days by the FBI in Iraq as he was about to leave for unknown reasons. - mig
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