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[2004-06-08 23:13:00] - like the following (sorry for reversing the normal flow of the message board): - pierce

[2004-06-08 23:12:32] - import com.angry.peons.CoolThang;

[2004-06-08 23:12:08] - import java.util.CoolThang;

[2004-06-08 23:11:55] - if (myCoolThang instanceof CoolThang) {

[2004-06-08 23:09:53] - mig: is it a really generic class name?  Maybe the shorthand you're using in "instanceof" is referring to an imported class rather than the one you intend. - pierce

[2004-06-08 22:59:45] - pierce:  yeah i'm doing the former. - mig

[2004-06-08 21:15:09] - pierce:  i did try it.  the second argument must (it won't compile otherwise) be a class and can't be an object ("Integer").  ~a

[2004-06-08 19:12:49] - Mig: are you doing 'if (myInteger instanceof Integer)', or 'if (myInteger instanceof "Integer")'?  The former is correct.  I haven't tried it, but the latter might return whether myInteger is an instance of String. - pierce

[2004-06-08 18:12:31] - 19.5, but I used to be 17.6 before all my pump-it-up weight came back - aaron

[2004-06-08 17:29:39] - Travis: Aw, I think they should let transexuals in. That would spice up the competition a lot methinks. :-) -Paul

[2004-06-08 17:26:22] - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1516&e=3&u=/afp/20040607/od_afp/china_beauty_offbeat_040607113454 "artificial beauty" pageant - travis

[2004-06-08 16:32:30] - hmmm.  what's the context?  which classes are you dealing with?  are they defined in your package or are you importing them?  ~a

[2004-06-08 16:18:50] - a:  ugh this is irrating.  getClassName() will give me the right name of the class, but if i do a instanceof it returns false. - mig

[2004-06-08 16:10:11] - that's a long uptime. - mig

[2004-06-08 15:10:44] - Dave: Especially in basketball. -Paul

[2004-06-08 15:05:30] - Paul: Yeah, don't mess with miguel ^_^ -dave

[2004-06-08 14:56:14] - Mig: All muscle, eh Miguel? -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:50:02] - hmph.  25-26-something. depending on my heigh which i haven't checked in like forever. - mig

[2004-06-08 14:48:07] - What I really need to do, and I've started, is walk everyday like I did in college. I think that was the biggest factor in my losing weight while at college. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:47:36] - Dave: Actually, I think cooking for myself wouldn't change much at all, because I often push myself to finish off meals that I make which are supposed to feed 2-3 people just because I don't want to save it. :-P -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:45:15] - paul: it can be such a pain sometimes, that you just eat less ^_^ -dave

[2004-06-08 14:45:00] - paul: you know what you need to do to lose weight? start trying to cook for yourself, hehehehe. -dave

[2004-06-08 14:44:43] - paul

[2004-06-08 14:43:59] - Paul: didn't mel say that 25 and above was overweight? so isn't everyone ok? -dave

[2004-06-08 14:42:20] - Paul: what's sad is that it's not a conspiracy. The women can be open about it and the guys more than happy to dish out the money ^_^ -dave

[2004-06-08 14:42:07] - So Travis, Adrian and I are fat while Mel and Dave are the skinny ones and Vinnie is average? -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:40:54] - Vinnie: That's usually how prostitution works too. However it works, the men looking for a date end up with less money and the women end up with more money. If I were the paranoid type, I would say there is a conspiracy by women to play hard to get just so they can milk men for more money. 8-) -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:39:49] - 22.5  ~a

[2004-06-08 14:39:19] - paul: technically they're paying a man who's paying a woman - vinnie

[2004-06-08 14:37:36] - I don't care what this BMI claims (it's from the government, I don't trust it any more than I trust the food pyramid), I think I could certainly stand to lose a dozen or so pounds of fat. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:34:41] - 21.3. yay for normality - vinnie

[2004-06-08 14:34:34] - Mel: Stay away from the salmon, it's cancerous. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:34:08] - Travis: Geez, now men have to pay ANOTHER woman in addition to the one he is courting just to get a potential partner. :-/ -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:33:28] - Time to go eat lunch.  See you guys later!  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:30:41] - dave:  haha. well I got pretty similar results.  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:30:34] - Dave: And how much I weigh. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:30:00] - Paul: measurements? you mean how tall you are? -dave

[2004-06-08 14:29:30] - mel: haha, for a second there I thought maybe I had mistyped my message and accidentally signed as you since your post was so like mine -dave

[2004-06-08 14:28:27] - dave: yeah, its pretty sensitive.  I would have to lose 10 pounds to hit 18.5 too.  But 10 pounds can be a lot.  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:27:00] - I have no idea wat my exact measurements are, but I think I am roughly 23. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:26:52] - travis: wow, the Wingwomen thing is a really good idea.  Very interesting...  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:25:02] - mel: wow, and the thing is pretty sensitive. I would just have to lose 10 pounds to be 18.5. Tho I suppose 10 pounds can be quite a bit -dave

[2004-06-08 14:24:02] - i saw that BMI thing on the tv in an elevator one day and did the math.  i came out at almost exactly 24.9 :-) - travis

[2004-06-08 14:23:29] - Yeah, I think so too.  19.7 is already really low.  I think below 18.5 is considered anorexic.  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:22:55] - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=84&ncid=84&e=1&u=/pagesix/20040604/en_pagesix/girlmagnet good plan - travis

[2004-06-08 14:22:47] - man, 18.5 must be skin and bones -dave

[2004-06-08 14:21:27] - vinnie: I read some newspaper article about low carb meals some resturants were making with all sorts of "fake" food.  Like spagetti made of meat or weird stuff like that.  So people could feel like they were enjoying carbs when they really weren't.  Let me see if I can find the article...  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:17:45] - yay, 19.7, I'm normal -dave

[2004-06-08 14:17:01] - Dave: http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/hl/fit/star/alert06202000.html  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:15:42] - 18.5 to 24.9 is considered "normal."  Or so our government says..  Its still an imperfect measure of body fat because it doesn't account for muscle weight.  But its something.  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:14:28] - dave: body mass index.  Some measure of "fat" percentage that attempts to adjust for height.  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:13:05] - travis: wow, I didn't know they served apple sauce -dave

[2004-06-08 14:12:22] - mel: woah, very cool. what's BMI stand for? -dave

[2004-06-08 14:10:59] - sald=salad

[2004-06-08 14:10:51] - travis: aww, cool.  apple sauce can often be better than a sald.  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:10:22] - vinnie: thanks for that clarification on the quotes.  :-P  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:09:39] - (quotes around faux is redundant)

[2004-06-08 14:09:29] - Dave: BMI = [Weight in pounds ÷ Height in inches ÷ Height in inches] x 703. -mel

[2004-06-08 14:09:10] - travis: neat. combine with spaghetti squash for a "faux" protein/carb meal - vinnie

[2004-06-08 14:07:38] - http://www.lewisw.worldonline.co.uk/fungus.htm and here's a "chicken fungus" - travis

[2004-06-08 14:07:35] - Paul: how do you know I'm not as fat as you? Find a table of average weight vs height and then we can look it up ^_^ -dave

[2004-06-08 14:07:35] - Paul: Good luck with "The Call."  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:07:10] - Travis: yes, I think lobster is too much work to eat for the meat that you get.  So is guinea pig.  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:06:55] - ha ha, meul - vinnie

[2004-06-08 14:06:42] - Well, I need to go outside to make 'The Call'. You guys enjoy your discussion on food. Be back soon I hope. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:06:24] - from wiki: " The "true" mushrooms are classified as Basidiomycota (also known as "club fungi"). A few mushrooms are classified by mycologists as Ascomycota (the "cup fungi"), the morel and truffle being good examples."  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:05:56] - meul: no bib, but i do get apple sauce instead of a salad :-) - travis

[2004-06-08 14:05:55] - Dave: I thought mold was in a different category, but I'm no biologist. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:05:35] - Travis: Lobster is pretty good, but it can be a pain to eat. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:05:13] - That would make your job a lot harder if that's how mushrooms were defined but  doubt it. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:05:07] - mel: yup, pretty simple.  i've just always had popcorn shrimp at red lobster every since i was a kid so it was new for me - travis

[2004-06-08 14:05:03] - travis: haha.  A lobster bib would be funny.  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:04:57] - Paul: what's mold then? is it its own category? -dave

[2004-06-08 14:04:32] - Paul: Yes, its a type of mushroom.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truffle  Are mushrooms by definition edible fungi??  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:04:11] - Dave: I thought it was mold. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:04:01] - well, according to this http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oyster%20fungus you can eat that fungus that grows on dead trees - travis

[2004-06-08 14:04:00] - Dave: Or something red. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:03:52] - is cheese fungus? -dave

[2004-06-08 14:03:30] - paul: well, the "normal" thing to order at Red Lobster would be some sort of seafood methinks -dave

[2004-06-08 14:03:09] - Travis: Did you wear a little lobster bib? *Tee Hee* -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:03:07] - travis: haha.  what is mac and cheese lobster?  mac & cheese with little pieces of lobster in there?  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:03:02] - mel: yeah there is other fungus that is edible. Tho I don't know what the name of it is in english, just mandarin -dave

[2004-06-08 14:02:25] - vinnie: sorry, I didn't realize that truffles were a kind of fungi.  I was confused by the random truffles comment.  I'll google that..  -mel

[2004-06-08 14:02:12] - i sorta had lobster for the first time two sundays ago, but i felt like a little kid because it was red lobster's new mac & cheese lobster which you could get as a side to any entree - travis

[2004-06-08 14:02:09] - paul: ah, so they are - vinnie

[2004-06-08 14:01:17] - Vinnie: Aren't truffles mushrooms though? -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:01:02] - easily amused and/or very disturbed. -Paul

[2004-06-08 14:00:44] - TRUFFLES - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:59:56] - Paul: well I was googling but didn't find a good example yet.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:59:42] - vinnie: excellent.  :-D  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:59:14] - Paul: how about easily amused and very disturbed

[2004-06-08 13:59:10] - *ahem* I answered that question a few posts ago - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:58:45] - what, you finding my story funny? that makes you a good person in my book - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:58:44] - Mel: That's what I'm waiting for you to tell me. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:58:12] - Paul: is there any other type of edible fungus that exists?  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:57:20] - vinnie: ok, so maybe it was an isolated incident.  I still got a kick out of it.  Hopefully you don't think I'm a bad person.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:56:50] - Paul: haha.  that's even funnier.  !!  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:55:51] - Vinnie: Especially if you picture the anime face throwing up while giving the peace sign. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:55:36] - mel: b-but I had a similar experience with jambalaya as a kid but now I harbor no ill will towards that dish! - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:54:42] - Paul: well I wasn't trying to be mean.  It just seemed funny that Vinnie wouldn't mention this earlier.  Because this type of incident would clearly bias anyone against meatloaf.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:54:15] - truffles! - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:53:53] - paul: she imagined that little anime face throwing up. it's funny if you think of it that way - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:53:50] - Vinnie: no offense.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:53:40] - Mel: Name one other type of fungus you eat. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:53:33] - meatloaf is sort of a homemade food.  true.  I think thats why I like ti so much.  Positive associated memories.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:53:29] - Dave: Instead of lobster? :-P -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:52:50] - Mel: You laughed out loud because Vinnie said he threw up? I'm not sure if you're easily amused or just very disturbed. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:52:48] - Paul: says who?  maybe I prefer other kinds of fungi.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:52:35] - Paul: but who am I to say, the few times I've been to Red Lobster, I think I ordered chicken, hehe -dave

[2004-06-08 13:52:21] - Dave: It usually seems too expensive at restaurants. Why buy meatloaf when you can get a steak for a couple dollars more? -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:51:48] - Travis: It also beat out various foot fungi. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:51:32] - dave: right! I forgot about that too. I always think of meatloaf as a homemade food - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:51:16] - vinnie: thats a horrible story.  But very funny.  I actually laughed at loud at my cube.  Well no wonder you don't like meatloaf if it made you puke several times that night.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:51:10] - Dave: Fatter than you. ;-) -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:50:36] - I maintain that it's kind of a mopey, boring dish though. I'd probably think that even without that incident - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:50:27] - Paul: Hehe, I haven't had meatloaf since I was really young. I think I liked it when I did tho. Seems a little wrong to buy it at a restaurant for some reason tho -dave

[2004-06-08 13:50:17] - travis: me too, thats where I got the idea.  Its actually not that hard to make it yourself.  And you can use th oven rather that the microwave, which might (?) be healthier.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:49:58] - paul: what, did mushrooms beat toadstools in a fast and furious race to the finish? - travis

[2004-06-08 13:49:44] - mel: after that she didn't. I threw up a few times that night. she only made it again about two years ago (sans mushrooms) and it wasn't bad - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:48:56] - vinnie: exactly what I was thinking.  So you are giving Paul a hard time because of your own childhood meatloaf trauma...  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:48:49] - Paul: hehe, you fat? riiiiight -dave

[2004-06-08 13:48:35] - mel: mmm, i used to buy the premade green giant stuff like that, then i stopped wanting to pay $1.75 for a side dish - travis

[2004-06-08 13:48:30] - Vinnie: Mushrooms are quite possibly the best fungus on the planet! -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:48:12] - vinnie: well did your parents ever make meatloaf at home?  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:48:08] - Mel: sounds yummy ^_^ -dave

[2004-06-08 13:48:00] - Mel: I've never had their breakfast, but they have some good dinners. Try the meatloaf. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:47:51] - I have a feeling it might all stem back to my mom making meatloaf with mushrooms in it when I was a kid, mushrooms being the worst food on the planet - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:47:40] - Dave: I love carbohydrates because they are cheap, taste good, and easy to make. That's why I am so fat. ;-) -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:47:21] - mel: yeah, know what you mean. If there's someone else much easier to be motivated. -dave

[2004-06-08 13:47:19] - dave: yes!  I've been making potatoes with brocolli and melted cheddar cheese.  Thats pretty good.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:47:08] - i dunno. just not a meatloaf fan. it's a very ugly dish to look at, and even the recipe is kind of weird. meat and bread mashed together. very inelegant - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:46:56] - Dave: That's probably it. Otherwise you could consider Ramen to be cooking. :-) -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:46:46] - Paul: I didn't even know silver diner had meatloaf.  I like their breakfast.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:46:17] - mel: then there's something wrong with you too... :P - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:46:15] - Paul: I love potatoes. Can taste really good, and are cheap. Kinda like rice ^_^ -dave

[2004-06-08 13:46:07] - dave: yes, it is a pain.  It seems slightly easier (to me anyway) if there is more than just myself to cook for.  That provides some necessary motivation.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:45:57] - mel: i dunno, ask vinnie, he leads the charge - travis

[2004-06-08 13:45:25] - travis:  haha.  why does everyone mock Paul for liking meatloaf?  Thats pretty funny, I didn't think there was anythign wrong with meatloaf.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:45:19] - Paul: I think it's because it's all in nice little packets for you, so all you do is dump all the packets in and let it go. Not that I would say it isn't cooking, but that may be why some people would say it isn't -dave

[2004-06-08 13:44:57] - dave: yeah, same here, and even then i really only have time to do on sundays - travis

[2004-06-08 13:44:01] - travis: hehe, it's a pain to cook and work full time. When I get home from work i don't feel like putting too much effort into cooking. That's why I have to do the more involved cooking on the weekend -dave

[2004-06-08 13:43:54] - There's nothing wrong with meatloaf :'( -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:43:40] - Travis: Yeah, tuna helper is only about a step below hamburger helper but I don't quite consider that cooking. Not sure why. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:43:17] - meatloaf is extremely easy to make, also, even if everyone mocks paul for liking it at silver diner - travis

[2004-06-08 13:42:52] - Travis: I think "meat and potatoes" covers it well. :-) -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:42:16] - although the girls at work i've talked to say it's more cooking than they do :-D - travis

[2004-06-08 13:42:12] - travis: I misread you down there. your wording was fine - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:41:56] - travis: yeah, lotsa cooking of meat just involves cooking it and applying some sort of sauce to it periodically -dave

[2004-06-08 13:41:52] - mel: that's why i asked if that counted, because technically stuff like hamburger helper is cooking but lots of people don't consider it high class enough or something - travis

[2004-06-08 13:41:05] - vinnie: naw, i guess i should've said "put bbq sauce on them and bake another 5-10 minutes" - travis

[2004-06-08 13:39:50] - Paul: dave and i believe in the protein/carb diet :-) - travis

[2004-06-08 13:39:49] - travis: I think that counts as cooking.  How do you define cooking?  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:39:34] - paul: yeah, because it doesn't seem like a meal if you don't eat meat (except for pasta I guess) so to get away with cooking one dish, I ended up cooking meat dishes -dave

[2004-06-08 13:39:22] - dave: I'm envious too.  :-P  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:39:09] - travis: oh! you mean like a glaze? I thought you were basically dipping chicken tenders in bbq sauce :) - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:38:08] - vinnie: i dunno, taking the chicken out, putting bbq sauce on it, then putting it back in seems like the same thing - travis

[2004-06-08 13:38:08] - mel: I'm envious of your brother. That'd be so cool to be able to do ^_^ -dave

[2004-06-08 13:37:52] - vinnie: yeah, baking is harder than cooking because you can improvise less.  I think.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:37:46] - Dave: That's what I thought, because you almost always end up eating only one dish and it's usually a meat and potato thing with (maybe) a little bit of vegetable in it. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:37:42] - in fact, come to think of it, it's really meat that gives me problems. i've even made bread before - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:37:20] - desert=dessert  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:37:02] - for dressings and desserts - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:36:46] - mel: recipes off ze internet - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:36:46] - vinnie: wow, very cool. I stink at baking things. I tried for awhile when I was young, didn't do so well, and never tried again, hehe -dave

[2004-06-08 13:36:30] - vinnie: Deserts are even better!!  Deserts are actually hard because with anything that rises, the ratio of ingredients is so important.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:36:28] - travis: no, dave's chicken counts. he does stuff to it before he cooks it. we don't - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:35:51] - Paul: probably not, I eat broccoli and corn and stuff. but probably not half enough. It's because I never want to put forth the effort to go cook a separate vegetable dish - most of what I cook doesn't have it incorporated into it -dave

[2004-06-08 13:35:50] - vinnie: cool.  how do you make your own dressings?  how do you decide what to put in them?  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:35:28] - oh, and desserts! I'm actually pretty good at making those for some reason - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:35:12] - dave: the iron stomach part will be easy.  I have a high tolerance for weird food.  The practice part is hard.  I think it takes a lot of practice too.  My brother is ridiculous.  he can just eat a meal at a restaurant and reproduce it at home immediately.  somehow.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:34:58] - I save a lot of money by cooking on the weekends and eating it for lunch throughout the week. Can get a bit tiring tho -dave

[2004-06-08 13:34:43] - so then dave's baked chicken isn't really cooking, is it? :-) - travis

[2004-06-08 13:34:31] - the furthest I go is salads, basically. but I sometimes make my own dressings - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:34:26] - Dave: I never really thought about it before, but do you get enough vegetables in your diet? -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:34:01] - travis: yeah, it seems like that sometimes. But when it comes down to it, if you cook, you usually end up with a lot more food than a single meal-in-a-box will give you. -dave

[2004-06-08 13:33:51] - oh, even I do that stuff. that's not cooking - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:33:13] - does this even count as actual cooking?  i just buy chicken drumettes and bake them for a little while then put bbq sauce on them for the last 5-10 minutes.  just seems to lazy to count as cooking :-P - travis

[2004-06-08 13:32:56] - travis: So I usually go with meal-in-a-box too.  :-P  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:32:41] - vinnie: it's easy in that all you need to do is practice and have an iron stomach for you mistakes. But it's hard in that it takes a lotta practice IMO. Tho some people do well right off the bat. Not me unfortunately -dave

[2004-06-08 13:32:30] - travis: well I think it matters how many people you cook for.  Cooking for 1 person doesn't seem nearly as economical as cooking for a family.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:31:42] - dave: Beef stroganoff sounds good and not too hard.  Definitely gotta try that.  I'll write it down.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:31:37] - i also thought it was supposed to be cheaper to make stuff yourself but if i wanna make beef stew the meat alone costs more than buying a meal-in-a-box version, although i'm guessing making it myself is healthier (mainly a lot less sodium) - travis

[2004-06-08 13:31:25] - vinnie: yeah you can halve recipes. Somehow I always cook too much. I think it's because whenever I put in ingredients, it always looks like not enough, but then all together it makes quite a lot -dave

[2004-06-08 13:31:19] - dave: yeah. he still cooks now and then. my whole family cooks except me basically - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:30:07] - vinnie: didn't your brother want to be a chef too? -dave

[2004-06-08 13:29:22] - mel: yeah, for one thing, just varying what brand / kind of poultry seasoning you use will make it taste different -dave

[2004-06-08 13:28:50] - mel: oh oops, don't forget to drain the grease after you brown the ground beef -dave

[2004-06-08 13:28:01] - mel: or I like beef stroganoff too. You brown onions, then brown ground beef in the onions, then throw in cream of mushroom soup and mushrooms. You can eat it with pasta or rice ^_^ -dave

[2004-06-08 13:27:53] - Mel: Well, I have it saved on my work computer but I have no way of showing it to you all, sorry. :-) -paul

[2004-06-08 13:27:15] - dave: cool.  I should try that.  My method for choosing salmon was pretty random.  Chicken sounds like a better idea.  And then you can practice different variations on the baked chicken, right?  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:25:51] - you can sometimes halve recipes, can't you? I've done it before (but IANAC) - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:25:50] - mel: I think the simplest thing I cook is baked chicken. I chop up a whole chicken, put salt, pepper, poultry seasoning on it, then cook for like 40-50 mins at 350. -dave

[2004-06-08 13:24:49] - travis: yup.  Thats a problem I was having too.  Lots of the measurements are way too big.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:24:22] - Paul: aww.  No picture??  How could I upload mine anyway?  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:24:18] - biggest problem i run into whenever i wanna try out recipes i find online is that they usually give measurements for a big serving number and i don't want to waste all the money buying that much stuff in case i wind up not liking it - travis

[2004-06-08 13:23:59] - vinnie: I wish I could too...  My brother is a chef, so I kind of gave up on cooking while I lived in Virginia.  But its time to fix that.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:23:14] - dave: thanks.  :-)  do you have any suggestions for stuff you like to cook that isn't too compliacted?  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:16:40] - Nope, I'm having trouble connecting to aporter.org so nobody gets to see my terrible picture. :-) -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:16:26] - mel: One thing I will say, don't get discouraged if it doesn't taste stupendous the night that you cook it. For some odd reason after I cook something I can't really taste it so well that night. Usually it tastes much better the next day. My mom always says she can't really taste things as well when she cooks too -dave

[2004-06-08 13:14:23] - mmm, cooking. I wish I could do that... - vinnie

[2004-06-08 13:11:08] - mel: sounds scrumptious ^_^ -dave

[2004-06-08 13:09:24] - dave: thanks.  I'm checking out cook.com.  I have salmon steaks.  It looks like I can put lemon and seasoning on them, wrap them in foil, and bake in the oven.  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:06:04] - Mel: Well, that's how I would do it. Unless you bought an entire salmon, then I might consider cutting it into salmon steaks instead. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:05:59] - mel: you could go to some recipe site like allrecipes.com and just search for recipes with salmon in them. Sometimes they have good stuff. Definitely give you some ideas -dave

[2004-06-08 13:03:53] - Paul: are you serious about the salmon suggestion?  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:03:38] - mel: hehe good luck. Fish is one of the harder things to cook. Probably your best bet is to put some sort of seasoning on it and just bake it in the oven -dave

[2004-06-08 13:02:54] - Mel: Not until I fix it a little. :-P -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:02:40] - Mel: Filet it and cook it in the oven with a little bit of seasoning. Tastes great. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:02:35] - Paul: can you post yours?  -mel

[2004-06-08 13:01:58] - Vinnie: Mine looks absolutely nothing like me at all. -Paul

[2004-06-08 13:01:25] - Paul: my definition of cook is pretty liberal.  Just like the rest of me.  :-P  Yeah, preparing meals counts as cooking.  Any situation where you don't go out to buy a preprepared meal.  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:59:47] - dave: I'm trying to learn how to cook in general.  anything.  Yesterday I boguht some salmon on a whim and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it today.  :-)  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:59:05] - Paul: Now isn't that true.  It does seem like everything gives you cancer.  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:58:36] - dave: Yeah, I've been checking on google and it seems like its ok to eat raw salmon.  Theres a slightly higher risk of getting sick, but its not like eatign raw meat.  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:58:12] - Dave: Everything gives you cancer nowadays. -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:57:52] - vinnie: I don't think mine looks as much like me as your looks like you.  I had problems with the hair options.  Most of them are for straight hair, and my hair is curly.  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:57:37] - Paul: altho to be honest, I bet reading that same kinda stuff about a cow or chicken probably wouldn't stop me from eating those meats -dave

[2004-06-08 12:57:04] - Paul: yummmm. I'm glad I didn't eat much fish before I read that. -dave

[2004-06-08 12:55:17] - mel: what are you trying to learn to cook? -dave

[2004-06-08 12:55:14] - http://www.seethru.co.uk/zine/rants/salmon.htm It's never safe to eat salmon. ;-) -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:54:21] - mel: I think it can be ok to eat salmon raw, but I think you run a slightly higher risk of catching something from it -dave

[2004-06-08 12:53:45] - mel: does yours look like you? - vinnie

[2004-06-08 12:53:33] - "surprisingly" - vinnie

[2004-06-08 12:53:18] - what I'm impressed by is that it looks surprising like me! - vinnie

[2004-06-08 12:52:13] - vinnie: yeah, I totally agree.  That site is fun.  I made a livejournal icon for myself yesterday.  haha.  I like your picture, the peace sign is funny.  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:50:48] - http://palpable.org/images/vinnie_anime.gif here's me in middle of of having my picture taken (I am un photogenic) - vinnie

[2004-06-08 12:50:07] - this kicks ass! http://illustmaker.abi-station.com/index_en.shtml anime version of you! - vinnie

[2004-06-08 12:49:49] - Mel: Define cook. I can prepare some meals. -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:49:11] - Mel: The Japanese eat it raw. -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:48:52] - Paul: hey, do you cook?  I've been trying to learn how.  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:47:17] - Paul: thanks.  :-P  Hey, what is a typical way to eat salmon?  is it ok to eat raw salmon?  does anyone know?  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:45:14] - Mel: It's settled, you have bad taste. ;-) -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:43:47] - haha.  I like Travis' pic better,  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:39:50] - Travis: I like my picture better. -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:37:06] - travis: oooh.  cool.  I'll have to save gthat link for when I really want to get mesmerized.  :-)  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:36:27] - ah.  they are both owned by Time Warner, I think.  Sometimes it blows me away how a few big companies dominate the entertainment industry.  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:34:56] - http://cs-netlab-01.lynchburg.edu/users/briggs_w/sciencegang/mesmerize.gif be mesmerized - travis

[2004-06-08 12:34:29] - Mel: If not owned, then at least closely affiliated with. -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:33:17] - Mel: Ah, ok. I think I have a higher tolerance for silly/stupid stuff than most people. -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:32:59] - Paul: so is sports illustrated is owned by the same people who own cnn? -mel

[2004-06-08 12:32:26] - Paul: well I didn't like it because I thought it got too ridiculous, without being funny to make up for it..  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:32:12] - Mel: http://www.cnnsi.com Is mostly a website about sports, but they're always trying to sell you stuff (the swimsuit edition being one of them). -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:31:34] - Mel: Was that the only reason you didn't like it? Because it stereotyped European people? -Paul

[2004-06-08 12:31:01] - are they really about sports?  or swimsuits?  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:30:23] - Paul: so what other kind of interesting stuff can be foound on the sports illustrated site?  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:29:50] - sorry.  I don't know what happened with my browser.  :-(  -mel

[2004-06-08 12:29:26] - Paul: well I thought Eurotrip got ridiculous.  Their trips to different European countries jyst seemed to reinforce stereotypes.

[2004-06-08 12:29:27] - Paul: well I thought Eurotrip got ridiculous.  Their trips to different European countries jyst seemed to reinforce stereotypes.-mel

[2004-06-08 12:29:26] - Paul: well I thought Eurotrip got ridiculous.  Their trips to different European countries jyst seemed to reinforce stereotypes.

[2004-06-08 12:18:23] - Mel: Yeah, I thought it was funny. There were a couple of silly moments, granted, but even those I thought were pretty funny. -Paul

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