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[2004-07-07 17:07:21] - Travis: Oh, no. I think those are different things (although I could be wrong). My Dad has had one of those put in his artery before I think. -Paul

[2004-07-07 17:04:41] - here's what i'm talking about: http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4721 they're called stents - travis

[2004-07-07 17:03:20] - Travis: I guess I'm just trying to imagine how they would work and I can't picture it. -Paul

[2004-07-07 17:02:17] - paul: don't ask me, i read the first page of an article about them in fortune magazine (johnson & johnson tried to buy out the company that makes them and now they're rivals) - travis

[2004-07-07 16:50:17] - Travis: Wouldn't that also tend to clog up the arteries since blood vessels wouldn't be able to pass through them? -Paul

[2004-07-07 16:39:36] - dave: are those nanotubes the things they put into your bloodstream to prop open clogged arteries? - travis

[2004-07-07 16:27:20] - Dave: Then who reported it to the cops? -Paul

[2004-07-07 16:19:07] - Paul: well, I think they're implying that she wanted them dead. -dave

[2004-07-07 16:10:04] - Strange that her first instinct was to get her boyfriend and not to get the babies out of the toilet. -Paul

[2004-07-07 16:07:06] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/07/07/bathroom.deaths.ap/index.html Woman charged with murder after giving birth to twins...into the toilet and leaving them there -dave

[2004-07-07 15:55:26] - travis: Yeah, I read that some company made nanotubes 10 atoms long -dave

[2004-07-07 15:50:28] - a: Nobody who should be interested. I suppose it was mostly a joke. -Paul

[2004-07-07 15:50:02] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3869379.stm Cough medicines 'have no benefit' -Paul

[2004-07-07 15:49:20] - paul:  who is left to be interested?  ~a

[2004-07-07 15:35:12] - http://www.apartments.com/search/oasis.dll?page=summary&lookup=101970.263&mode=8 Anybody interested? -Paul

[2004-07-07 15:30:20] - Travis: Yeah, it baffles me how we make stuff that small. Seems like we would need to make tiny robots which build smaller robots which build smaller robots which finally go about making those glass spheres. -Paul

[2004-07-07 15:26:43] - paul: i'm still amazed they can make stuff that freakin' small, like that pill with a video camera in it or any other nanotechnology - travis

[2004-07-07 15:18:40] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5343023/ A future for glass in a hydrogen economy? -Paul

[2004-07-07 14:56:28] - Dave: True enough, I suppose. -Paul

[2004-07-07 13:47:46] - Paul: this guy video-taped the whole thing and then tried to show the video to his teammates... I think his relative stupidity is already established -dave

[2004-07-07 13:42:46] - Dave: Possibly, but it seems like if the police start asking you questions about sexual acts involving underage girls that even the most stupid people should realize to shut up until their lawyer arrives. -Paul

[2004-07-07 13:40:44] - Paul: well, he probably just admitted to the act without knowing it was a crime -dave

[2004-07-07 13:39:11] - I re-read the article and it says that he admitted to sodomy, which seems like a silly thing to do in this instance. -Paul

[2004-07-07 13:37:19] - Pierce: Good point. That's an important distinction to make. -Paul

[2004-07-07 13:36:31] - dave: yeah, he could.  or he could take the more traditional route of trying to argue that he's not guilty of sodomy.  Or he could try both. - pierce

[2004-07-07 13:35:50] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/07/07/britain.genghis.dna.ap/index.html hehe, London restaurant gives people a shot at discovering whether they are descended from Genghis Khan through DNA testing. If they are, they win a free meal -dave

[2004-07-07 13:33:10] - Paul: Yeah I don't know how they found out. He probably admitted to it or the other partner admitted to it (shrug) -dave

[2004-07-07 13:32:48] - Pierce: so if this kid really wanted to, he could challenge the sodomy law eh? -dave

[2004-07-07 13:30:39] - The supreme court decision in Lawrence v. Texas means that laws against sodomy and whatnot will not pass judicial scrutiny... but the actual laws aren't negated until they're actually challenged. - pierce

[2004-07-07 13:27:47] - Dave: What I want to know is why he is being charged with sodomy. They said it wasn't on the tape. So did the girl tell them? Did the guys? -Paul

[2004-07-07 13:26:58] - Vinnie: I thought that the Supreme Court had ruled that states cannot make laws against sodomy. -Paul

[2004-07-07 13:17:59] - dave: gay marriage isn't legal in utah, and I suspect sodomy is still a crime there - vinnie

[2004-07-07 13:15:55] - Paul: but you'd think that'd be covered under stat-rape or something -dave

[2004-07-07 13:15:36] - Paul: or maybe it's because the other boy may have been under-age -dave

[2004-07-07 13:15:05] - Paul: what's also curious about the Utah case, is that one of the boy's is charged with Sodomy. That's pretty weird that that's illegal.  How can that be illegal if gay marriages are legal? -dave

[2004-07-07 13:13:22] - Paul: yeah, he really sucked it up. -dave

[2004-07-07 13:02:42] - Dave: No, I think he's getting a raise. I think he is sticking around because he realizes that there isn't a big demand for his services after his performance in the playoffs. -Paul

[2004-07-07 13:02:07] - Dave: and the girl is charged with nothing. Which legally I suppose makes sense, but still doesn't seem right to me. -Paul

[2004-07-07 13:01:21] - Paul: I wonder why Gary Payton is staying?  Is he going to still get paid the rock-bottom salary? -dave

[2004-07-07 13:00:19] - Paul: wow, they were charged and stuff for just owning the tape? and it was all consensual? weird -dave

[2004-07-07 13:00:00] - Dave: I could see it happening if they got a lot of good players in return for Shaq or something, but I think it's fairly unlikely. -Paul

[2004-07-07 12:59:10] - Dave: I know. A lot of the studies about gender relations tend to be from Australia and Britain and the like. -Paul

[2004-07-07 12:58:18] - paul: wouldn't it be hilarious if Gary Payton was the only holdover from the old team...and then they won? -dave

[2004-07-07 12:57:45] - Paul: about the girls molesting young boys, that's a study done in New Zealand, so may not apply to the US -dave

[2004-07-07 12:49:07] - http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6779 Really only the first half of a paragraph is what interests me. If Jessica Lynch had such a big deal made out of her I can only imagine what media circus would result if a female soldier is captured and beheaded on television. -Paul

[2004-07-07 12:45:41] - http://166.70.44.66/2004/Jul/07022004/utah/utah.asp *Sigh* -Paul

[2004-07-07 12:42:45] - http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/thepress/0,2106,2957934a6009,00.html Study finds girls molest young boys -Paul

[2004-07-07 12:02:04] - Dave: Gary Payton. -Paul

[2004-07-07 11:55:11] - Paul: leaving the Lakers with.... what? -dave

[2004-07-07 11:36:25] - Dave: I wouldn't be too shocked to see Kobe leave but I still think Shaq will be gone. -Paul

[2004-07-07 11:34:23] - travis: haha, that's hilarious -dave

[2004-07-07 11:31:01] - Paul: I think the chances are in favor of Kobe going somewhere else actually / of him accepting a contract somewhere else -dave

[2004-07-07 11:29:56] - mig: yeah, Shaq said that his problem is with the LA management so he wants out regardless -dave

[2004-07-07 11:27:11] - Travis: Some people have too much time on their hands. -Paul

[2004-07-07 11:26:56] - mig: Perhaps. I just think the Laker management is going to be crazy about keeping Kobe since the rest of the team has fallen apart and so they might rush to trade Shaq if they think that would help them keep Kobe. -Paul

[2004-07-07 11:24:01] - http://www.scarysquirrel.org/special/profiles/chipper/ beware chipper the ripper! - travis

[2004-07-07 11:20:47] - paul:  that's true, but there's no way he's getting traded if they lose Kobe. - mig

[2004-07-07 11:19:40] - mig: Shaq wants out of LA despite what Kobe does. -Paul

[2004-07-07 11:18:46] - and like i said before, I think Kobe is going to leave, so I think the whole shaq trade talks will be officially done after that. - mig

[2004-07-07 11:16:59] - so what?  just because he wants out doesn't mean the Lakers are going to move him, and besides there's no deal really available that'd be in the lakers best interest. - mig

[2004-07-07 11:08:36] - mig: well he almost definitely wants to go somewhere. he's stated that clearly for the past week or two -dave

[2004-07-07 10:25:25] - even if he does want to go there's just nowhere to move him to. - mig

[2004-07-07 10:18:53] - paul: yeah me either -dave

[2004-07-07 10:07:33] - Dave: I suppose, but I also can't envision Shaq staying in LA after everything that has gone on there. -Paul

[2004-07-07 10:06:58] - Vinnie: Very well then, I shall plan without you in mind. -Paul

[2004-07-07 10:00:42] - Paul: I don't really either, but I don't think the Mavs will...so that leave him at LA -dave

[2004-07-07 09:59:25] - paul: there's simply too many movies is the problem. I don't mind missing one or two that I don't really really want to see, like these two - vinnie

[2004-07-07 09:58:13] - paul: yeah, I understood. that seems fine with me. I don't really have a preference which one to see either - vinnie

[2004-07-07 09:57:53] - Dave: Hard to say. I just can't imagine any other teams stepping up to do the deal though. -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:56:46] - Vinnie: Well, I would rather not leave you out if possible. People are fairly split over which one they want to see so I figured maybe we could watch one on Saturday and one on Sunday if there was one you DIDN'T want to see but if you want to see both maybe we can just see one next weekend. -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:55:50] - Paul: You think the Mav would send Nowitski tho? They keep on adamantly saying that they won't -dave

[2004-07-07 09:54:36] - paul: ah, I see. I don't have to see either - vinnie

[2004-07-07 09:47:36] - Dave: Well, it would probably require sending Dirk now that they lost Nash but I think they could do it. I just don't know what the Kings would send in order to get Shaq. -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:47:30] - I don't know if Weber would like the prospect of playing with Shaq though. - mig

[2004-07-07 09:47:22] - jeez, it turned it into a smiley -dave

[2004-07-07 09:47:01] - hehe weird, the Dow is 60 points down and the S& is 2 points up -dave

[2004-07-07 09:46:10] - Paul: I just don't see how the Mavs could leverage enough to trade for Shaq -dave

[2004-07-07 09:45:35] - Paul: well the Spurs have money, but I doubt he will go there. The reason I said Sacramento was because Shaq said he would like playing for them -dave

[2004-07-07 09:43:40] - Dave: I cannot imagine Shaq going to Sacramento or the Spurs. -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:39:29] - Paul: I think seeing Shaq go to Sacramento or the Spurs would be fun / amusing -dave

[2004-07-07 09:38:53] - Paul: really? but Nash is gone, and Dallas doesn't want to trade Nowitski (sp?) -dave

[2004-07-07 09:38:23] - vinnie: yay, I wouldn't want to see any of those movies either -dave

[2004-07-07 09:38:19] - Dave: Traded to Dallas. -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:38:06] - I think it's more likely kobe is going to be gone. - mig

[2004-07-07 09:37:48] - Vinnie: Heh, sorry. I meant between King Arthur and Anchorman. -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:37:44] - WI think shaq is staying put. - mig

[2004-07-07 09:37:08] - anyone want to give their opinion on whether Shaq will get traded, and to who? -dave

[2004-07-07 09:34:50] - paul: we tried to figure that out, remember? looking at the currently playing movies I see four. white chicks, garfield, soul plane, new york minute - vinnie

[2004-07-07 09:33:14] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5359395/site/newsweek?GT1=4244 The secret lives of wives. -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:31:54] - Vinnie: Is there one movie that you wouldn't mind NOT seeing? -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:31:31] - Vinnie: I read an article that made a joke based on her last name but it was in reference to "nightly" instead of "knight". -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:30:42] - Dave: Oh, that makes a lot more sense, and explains why everybody kept on forgetting "on". -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:27:46] - how come we haven't seen more jokes about keira's last name? these articles are letting me down - vinnie

[2004-07-07 09:26:05] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/07/06/wife.carrying.reut/index.html estonians win "wife carrying" contest...they get wife's weight in beer and a sauna -dave

[2004-07-07 09:24:50] - http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/06/news/newsmakers/homedepot_playboy/index.htm?cnn=yes women of Home Depot pose for Playboy -dave

[2004-07-07 09:22:59] - paul: i wouldn't mind seeing either, but I don't think saturday will work. much prefer sunday - vinnie

[2004-07-07 09:18:03] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/07/07/australia.kangaroo.reut/index.html killer kangaroos! -dave

[2004-07-07 09:15:31] - paul: ummm, the "hit her male co-stars" was physically hitting them in their weapons training I think. Not hitting on them like flirting with them -dave

[2004-07-07 09:07:43] - Dave: It could be funny, but the fact that she realizes and even pointed out (it seems) that they can't flirt back seems to indicate she knows that it's cruel as well. -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:06:37] - Vinnie: If you're reading this, are you interested in seeing King Arthur or Anchorman and if so, will you be free anytime on Saturday? -Paul

[2004-07-07 09:03:24] - Paul: but yeah, if the guy's didn't like it, then it wouldn't have been so good -dave

[2004-07-07 09:02:46] - Paul: well actually I think the guy's would have thought it was funny too. I think I would have -dave

[2004-07-07 08:48:10] - Dave: *Shrug* I'm sure SHE sees it as good fun, and that is the problem IMHO. -Paul

[2004-07-07 08:41:33] - Paul: but I can imagine a situation where it would be annoying and not in good-fun -dave

[2004-07-07 08:39:35] - Paul: I was really amused about her hitting them. It seems to me like it was done in good-fun, not mean-spirited or anything. -dave

[2004-07-07 08:37:06] - Dave: Well, I guess I have no problem with the quote (since it seemed light hearted like you said) but more about the fact that she had no problem (and enjoyed) hitting on her co-stars while knowing they couldn't do so back. -Paul

[2004-07-07 08:36:09] - Dave: Right. I think he's a victim of his own popularity and bad timing. I'm sure thousands of people in America has probably gone 20+ mph over the speed limit while having marijuana in their car at the same time but you don't see harsh penalties levied against them. -Paul

[2004-07-07 08:35:24] - Paul: You have a problem with what Keira said? Most extreme feminist statements don't sit well with me, but I didn't really have any problems with what she said.  It came across as a more light-hearted statement. -dave

[2004-07-07 08:34:05] - http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/morris/2004/morris070604.htm Libertarian Lessons of "Fahrenheit 9/11" -Paul

[2004-07-07 08:33:58] - Paul: well, probably the only reason his latest escapade got so much attention is because it was like a week after he got convicted of giving alcohol to 14-15 year old girls and encouraging them to strip -dave

[2004-07-07 08:31:42] - Dave: And as for Keira, well, the sad thing is that I'll bet most people have no problem at all with what she said. -Paul

[2004-07-07 08:29:31] - I mean, if I were a little more outgoing and was a popular football player I could easily see myself in his shoes. -Paul

[2004-07-07 08:29:05] - Dave: I feel a little sorry for Marcus Vick. I know he broke the law, but none of the violations have seemed to be too extreme in my mind (mostly victimless) and in one case is something I'm sure I've done (20+ mph over the speed limit). -Paul

[2004-07-07 08:23:28] - "Knightley loved being able to hit her male co-stars while they were prohibited from hitting her. Indeed, she's all about female empowerment. "Women are stronger," she says with a laugh. "We have to go through childbirth. Please! Not a question! Women are stronger." " -dave

[2004-07-07 08:22:33] - http://entertainment.msn.com/celebs/article.aspx?news=163343 interview with Keira on Aurthur -dave

[2004-07-07 08:16:19] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31453-2004Jul6.html marcus Vick caught gong 88 in a 65 zone and with marijuana in his car. -dave

[2004-07-07 08:09:35] - it sounds like he made some inflammatory / extreme remarks 20 years ago and people are holding those against him. This is supported by the fact that some of the democrats seem to think he will be fair -dave

[2004-07-07 08:08:04] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32206-2004Jul6.html somewhat bizarre article about the electing of an extremely conservative judge. oddly enough, some democrats voted for him and some repubs voted against him. -dave

[2004-07-07 08:04:08] - the fact I like is that the current salaries of the women in the case range from 100k to over a million -dave

[2004-07-07 08:03:40] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32607-2004Jul6.html Equal Employment Opportunity Commission bringing case against Morgan Stanley, claiming the women are discriminated against. -dave

[2004-07-06 20:54:58] - vinnie: did you get my note about those celebrity poker showdown episodes? - pierce

[2004-07-06 14:37:51] - dave: good to know for ze future - vinnie

[2004-07-06 14:31:30] - I keep a disposable camera in my glove compartment so I can take pictures if I get into an accident, but someone told me that those cameras don't "age" too well, so I don't know how well it will work if it's been in there awhile -dave

[2004-07-06 14:29:17] - get some proof that it was his fault. If it was his fault and he doesn't want to admit it or something, then call the cops -dave

[2004-07-06 14:28:56] - vinnie: be careful about calling the cops. If you call them for an accident, they are required to give out a reckless driving ticket. So if it is your fault, just exchange information if you can. If it's the other guy's fault, I would get him to put in writing that it's his fault and have him sign it or something, or take pictures, or -dave

[2004-07-06 14:27:16] - vinnie: what you're "supposed" to do is check for damage, and then if something is broken or needs to be fixed, get the person's information (insurance, name, phone, etc). If there's no dmg then I don't think there's any reason to exchange information -dave

[2004-07-06 14:04:47] - The best thing to do is to look for damage on the outside of your car, make sure you can open your trunk, and pull the carpet up in your trunk and make sure there is no buckling - Lisa

[2004-07-06 14:03:06] - If you are rear ended you can have a lot of damage to your car without really even knowing it...even if it is at a slow speed - Lisa

[2004-07-06 13:59:09] - aaron: you didn't get out of your car? heh, I guess the other person really didn't need to in my case either - vinnie

[2004-07-06 13:55:23] - I completely froze up, it was very bad slow-moving traffic and you know Tysons. It's all very busy 2-lane roads. I didn't even get out of my car. I feel bad about it now. - aaron

[2004-07-06 13:54:39] - vinnie: I rear-ended someone near Tysons at low speed about three years ago. We didn't bother exchanging information because we couldn't find any damage. - aaron

[2004-07-06 13:50:34] - Vinnie: And he's already Chinese so he has the eyebrows for it. -Paul

[2004-07-06 13:47:32] - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1008940.html?menu= sci-fi fan gets spock ears - vinnie

[2004-07-06 13:37:37] - Vinnie: I've been in at least two major accidents (neither time I was the driver) and I still don't know for sure what to do. -Paul

[2004-07-06 13:36:42] - maybe xpovos can enlighten us, since the accident I'm referring to is his - vinnie

[2004-07-06 13:36:06] - but yes, I'd be baffled in an actual accident I think, despite being in a car that had a major accident - vinnie

[2004-07-06 13:34:51] - paul: well, it clearly wasn't my fault, and the other person admitted as much, but we didn't do anything past that. so this unremarkable incident is over - vinnie

[2004-07-06 13:24:46] - Vinnie: I would be the same way, though. I would have no idea what to do if I got into an actual accident requiring insurance and police to get involved. All I know is you're supposed to make sure everybody is ok, call the police, exchange insurance info, and not say it's your fault. -Paul

[2004-07-06 13:20:57] - paul: good, that's what I wanted to hear - vinnie

[2004-07-06 13:20:11] - Vinnie: No suggestions regarding the mysterious chipped paint though. -Paul

[2004-07-06 13:19:29] - Vinnie: Well, it sounds like if there didn't appear to be any damage and you both agree that everything is ok then I can't think of any reason why you both can't just drive off. -Paul

[2004-07-06 13:17:49] - oh yeah, we inspected our cars. mine had chipped paint but the outline of the mark didn't match her car! so either she has a shapshifting car or I got hit some other time and didn't know it! - vinnie

[2004-07-06 13:16:46] - Vinnie: Did you at least get out of the car and talk to the other person? -Paul

[2004-07-06 13:13:43] - if the collision felt pretty low speed and there appeared to be no damage, can you both just drive off? I didn't really know what the hell to do - vinnie

[2004-07-06 13:12:46] - Vinnie: What happened? -Paul

[2004-07-06 13:12:38] - Vinnie: Your car got rear ended today? -Paul

[2004-07-06 13:12:07] - my poor car. towed on saturday, rear-ended ten minutes ago. which brings me to my dilemma of the day... - vinnie

[2004-07-06 12:16:14] - Travis: Yeah, and I think there was one or two others that were either wrong or intentional. -Paul

[2004-07-06 11:57:06] - the "error" about harry drinking from a glass after breaking his is wrong, i saw him get another glass although i expected him to drink from the bottle - travis

[2004-07-06 11:47:13] - http://www.moviemistakes.com/film3843 Spider Man 2 mistakes (contains spoilers). -Paul

[2004-07-06 10:54:03] - Vinnie: http://198.70.231.94/Journal/ Give that a try. -Paul

[2004-07-06 10:31:38] - xpovos: what's your new url? (since I'm not on AIM) - vinnie

[2004-07-06 10:25:38] - Whoa, I updated my journal.  Freaky. -- Xpovos

[2004-07-06 09:47:00] - Vinnie: Less gay. -Paula

[2004-07-06 09:46:18] - except that now television has a show making us more gay to impress women and another making us less gay! which is it?? - vinnie

[2004-07-06 09:45:31] - oh, they're not really gay? that makes the show make a little more sense - vinnie

[2004-07-05 23:34:35] - Well actually i guess the guys they reform aren't supposed to be gay - they're straight people who are very very effeminate. - aaron

[2004-07-05 23:31:49] - a: I only saw like one episode, but that was the impression I got too. I guess Adam Corrola and Co. don't know so much about picking up gay guys. - aaron

[2004-07-05 23:07:28] - http://www.engadget.com/entry/2475140959436826/ bio-scan atm like device - travis

[2004-07-05 10:54:26] - 23?

[2004-07-05 10:45:23] - mel:  happy birthday.  ~a

[2004-07-05 10:11:29] - a: that's the joke - vinnie

[2004-07-04 23:28:06] - sex is awesome

[2004-07-04 23:21:59] - queer eye for the strait guy was a bunch of gay people teaching strait guys how to better pick up chicks (i've never seen the show; but that's what i've heard).  strait plan for the gay man was a bunch of strait guys teaching gay guys how to better pick up chicks.  what's the deal?  ~a

[2004-07-03 10:22:19] - impetrate perborate operculate

[2004-07-03 02:11:27] - permeate pervade interpenetrate

[2004-07-03 02:10:50] - FART

[2004-07-03 00:24:22] - hey hey hey hey hey hey hey.  ~a

[2004-07-03 00:23:00] - i am a robot.  ~a

[2004-07-02 15:36:15] - i wouldn't mind updating my info but it seems they have no way to recover a lost password, and even if they did, they would send the password to my dead account. - mig

[2004-07-02 15:33:03] - a: I logged in and updated my e-mail to soriano@alumni.caltech...  But I haven't gotten an e-mail about the reunion.  Or not as of an hour ago anyway.  I'm planning on coming to VA for Thanksgiving weekend though  -mel

[2004-07-02 15:31:27] - Pierce: Thanks, I guess I didn't put one in way back when. -Paul

[2004-07-02 15:31:08] - a: Because I don't know what email address they have me down for. -Paul

[2004-07-02 15:29:01] - ok, well that email has been dead for a very long time. - mig

[2004-07-02 15:28:41] - hrm.  Don't know why I mentally substituted Dave for Paul.  Paul: you don't have an email listed, though they may have one in the system. - pierce

[2004-07-02 15:27:33] - miguel: you're listed as el_mono@nettaxi; dave: you're listed as d_tsou@hotmail. - pierce

[2004-07-02 15:23:07] - paul&mig:  why do you have no way of knowing if your email on the alumni site is up to date?  ~a

[2004-07-02 15:07:58] - a: I'm in the same position as Miguel. -Paul

[2004-07-02 14:59:16] - Miguel: you got it at your vt account, at least.  Dewey forwarded it there. - pierce

[2004-07-02 14:57:26] - i haven't gotten anything yet.  though i have no way of knowing if my e-mail on the alumni site is up to date. - mig

[2004-07-02 14:52:38] - did anybody not get an email about the reunion?  ~a

[2004-07-02 14:41:12] - Mel: Enjoy your beach-style work environment while you eat your lunch then. -Paul

[2004-07-02 14:40:27] - gotta go to lunch.  Paul, I wanted to tell you that the guy I share an office with (he's over 30) is wearing jean shorts and flip flops.  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:39:45] - pierce:  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:32:18] - Mel: heh... I meant more in the context of the prehistory-postmortem statement, rather than as a literal bookend.  I didn't even realize how confusing that would sound. - pierce

[2004-07-02 14:29:47] - pierce:  it would be funny if reviews were written like that.  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:29:31] - pierce: a good bookend?  :_

[2004-07-02 14:28:56] - Don't buy it, though... it has little to no rereadability. - pierce

[2004-07-02 14:28:52] - Mel: Probably, but I'm not going to bother looking for it. -Paul

[2004-07-02 14:28:29] - I wouldn't recommend it as much as I did Microserfs, but it serves as a good bookend. - pierce

[2004-07-02 14:27:02] - Mel: I think Microserfs and 21 Dog Years serve as a good prehistory and postmortem of the dotcom naivete, respectively.  The latter is a guy recounting his time at Amazon.com.  It's interesting, but kind of comes off as bitter rather than insightful a lot. - pierce

[2004-07-02 14:26:17] - paul:  hmm, good point.  I wonder if those statistics exist.    -mel

[2004-07-02 14:23:10] - Mel: I'm probably equally skewed. I think D.C. probably has a lot more people in suits per capita than most other areas. -Paul

[2004-07-02 14:22:21] - Paul: Actually I really think I have a skewed perspective on this, because of my location.  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:20:39] - I would love to be able to wear jeans and a t-shirt to work. -paul

[2004-07-02 14:20:09] - Mel: Well we must have very different work environments then. I might be able to get away with a nice pair of jeans and a polo shirt on casual Friday but I wouldn't try it any other time here. -Paul

[2004-07-02 14:17:19] - Paul: Hmm.  well I didn't think that was until pretty recently.  When I worked at Intel (in Austin) everyone wore jeans and T-shirts.  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:16:12] - Paul: haha  website and company name have become almost interchangable.    -mel

[2004-07-02 14:16:10] - Mel: Well, for me work clothes and school clothes are like two entirely seperate beasts. I wouldn't dream of wearing my school clothes (mostly jeans and t-shirts) to work. I've always considered work and home clothes to be essentially seperate wardrobes. -Paul

[2004-07-02 14:14:41] - Pierce: Heh, the name isn't "www.intwine.com", the name is just "intwine". That is their website. -Paul

[2004-07-02 14:14:25] - paul: The other thing is that the neighborhood I work in is very different from the neighborhood I live in.  If I wear my work clothes to the store around home, I don't fit in well.  But if I wore my hoem clothes to work, I wouldn't either.  so its like two entirely seperate wardrobes.  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:14:20] - Pierce: www.intwine.com -Paul

[2004-07-02 14:13:34] - was=were    -mel

[2004-07-02 14:13:22] - paul: that's cool.  I've had to overhaul my entire closet since graduating.  I'm still not done.  None of my school clothes was good for work.  Work clothes in general is expensive.  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:12:25] - pierce: haha.  yes.  let me know if you have any other suggestions about stuff to read.  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:12:14] - Paul: what's the name of the company? - pierce

[2004-07-02 14:11:55] - server uptime days = 088.8... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 8 a forbidden digit in octal? - pierce

[2004-07-02 14:11:35] - Mel: If I had my choice I wouldn't be wearing a suit either but it's a requirement for the job, which is in Reston. -Paul

[2004-07-02 14:11:04] - mel: I'm glad... it's just one of those things that I think anyone who calls themself a geek should read. - pierce

[2004-07-02 14:09:15] - mention

[2004-07-02 14:09:09] - mig: I think I have a rather skewed perspective, now that you mwntion it..  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:08:30] - mig: good point.  In Austin people don't wear suits either but its hotter than california.  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:07:57] - pierce: I forgot to mention that I really enjoyed Microserfs.  I laughed out loud many many times and thought of Intel.    -mel

[2004-07-02 14:07:30] - mel:  considering where you live, that's not all that surprising. - mig

[2004-07-02 14:05:30] - Paul: a suit.  wow.  No one I know wears a suit.  so where is your new job at, Paul?  -mel

[2004-07-02 14:04:28] - Pierce: Yes. -Paul

[2004-07-02 13:55:52] - pierce:  yes.  ~a

[2004-07-02 13:51:45] - paul: do you have to wear a suit for your new job? - pierce

[2004-07-02 13:42:04] - Vinnie: It would be awesome if we could get enough people to do full court consistently. Seems like we're already adapted to half court so we don't tire out as fast as we should. -Paul

[2004-07-02 13:38:07] - paul: well as it stands, we still only have five for bball, so let's work on getting 3-on-3 first - vinnie

[2004-07-02 13:36:12] - went = gone. -Paul

[2004-07-02 13:36:00] - Has anybody here ever went shopping for ties? Holy crap they are too expensive for what they are. -Paul

[2004-07-02 13:27:56] - Mig: Well, I'm starting on the 12th and my last day of work at my current job is the 9th. -Paul

[2004-07-02 13:24:01] - paul:  is intwine making you come start on monday? - mig

[2004-07-02 13:23:00] - Dammit, now I feel bad about missing such a big gathering of people for basketball. If Aaron and Adrian and I could come we could've possibly had 5 on 5. -Paul

[2004-07-02 13:21:43] - Mig: Oh, right. Excellent point. -Paul

[2004-07-02 13:16:56] - possibly ryan too - vinnie

[2004-07-02 13:16:47] - *** pierce is showing up.

[2004-07-02 13:16:35] - travis: pierce and my brother both said they were interested in playing bball today - vinnie

[2004-07-02 13:16:00] - marlon brando dead at 80 http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20040702_810.html - vinnie

[2004-07-02 13:14:26] - this monday = holiday. - mig

[2004-07-02 13:11:25] - Mig: Aren't you worried about getting to work on Monday then? -Paul

[2004-07-02 13:08:53] - Well i'm busy saturday, but I was looking to maybe reserving sunday for heavy drinking. - mig

[2004-07-02 13:02:36] - Does anybody have any ideas for fun stuff to do this weekend? My parents are going to be gone and this will be one of the last weekends I have before starting my new job so I want to enjoy it. -Paul

[2004-07-02 12:54:30] - Travis: Sounds like it, unless Pierce or Tim or Sam shows up. -Paul

[2004-07-02 12:38:13] - so is basketball just gonna be vinnie, miguel, and me today? - travis

[2004-07-02 12:26:40] - paul:  nothing.  i'm dropping it.    ~a

[2004-07-02 12:25:48] - finally  http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,64065,00.html  ~a

[2004-07-02 12:25:09] - a: It would be like if you told me that White Chicks sucked because the jokes were all stupid and then I told somebody else I didn't think I would like White Chicks because the jokes are probably stupid. Is there anything wrong with that? -Paul

[2004-07-02 12:24:32] - a: But I didn't say I hated it. I only said that I probably wouldn't like it for the same reasons that that guy didn't like it. -Paul

[2004-07-02 12:20:15] - mig:  "and what have i been talking about?"  ~a

[2004-07-02 12:18:52] - Do I have to see White Chicks all the way through to know that I probably wouldn't like it , just in order to have an "open mind". - mig

[2004-07-02 12:13:52] - that's totally different.  ~a

[2004-07-02 12:13:46] - i understand that opting out of opportunities is what life is all about.  if i spent time reading every piece of spam that came to my mailbox, just so i could keep an "open mind" and keep from missing any opportunites, then i would be very misserable.  on the other hand, if i claim publicly that i hate something that i know nothing about, then ...

[2004-07-02 12:13:17] - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=74&e=3&u=/cmp/20040702/tc_cmp/22103407  !*%&@(*#$!^#$*&$#@&  ~a

[2004-07-02 12:09:47] - a:  i do not hear paul saying that he thinks F9/11 sucks.  Just that he probably woulnd't like it if he saw it. - mig

[2004-07-02 12:09:06] - paul:  yes.  yes i do.  if you told people that you didn't want to see the movie because it might not make sense to you, then that would be fine.  but you're saying that you probably hate this movie that you've never seen because you're sure it wouldn't make sense to you.  ~a

[2004-07-02 12:00:55] - a: Do you feel the same way about my thoughts on movies like Donnie Darko where I tell people I probably wouldn't like a movie because it wouldn't make sense to me even though I haven't seen it? -Paul

[2004-07-02 11:54:21] - i don't think that i have a problem with you not seeing the movie because you think that you wouldn't like it.  i have a problem with you telling people (not explicitly) that you didn't like the movie and it sucked even though you didn't see it.  ~a

[2004-07-02 11:52:54] - paul:  sigh.  i dunno.  ~a

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