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[2005-04-15 10:43:30] - dave: that was a more "thinking out loud" statement. nothing more. - mig
[2005-04-15 10:25:38] - if you go to maps.google.com and put in your address, then click on the far-right link that says satellite, and zoom in, you can get some pretty close overhead pictures -dave
[2005-04-15 10:23:59] - mig: the most readily available possibility that comes to mind is putting it into research done by academics at universities, a lot of pure research gets done there -dave
[2005-04-15 10:22:37] - mig: you mean the student loan stuff? I didn't really think about whether I would support it or not, I just thought it was something interesting. If I had to say atm, I would say that I would rather them use the money to promote US tech advancement in a different way -dave
[2005-04-15 10:09:11] - dave: Well whatever happened, it seems like it's well-known now so i doubt car companies will be tricked again.... I guess i can see the appeal of selling your car to a 1*10^9 people market, but now that they understand their policies it seems like no car companies will do business with china (or... computer companies or...) - aaron
[2005-04-15 10:06:00] - dave: that's funny, i thought republicans were against using taxpayer money for social engineering projects.... (i guess i'm beating a dead horse here though
) - mig[2005-04-15 10:04:10] - aaron: or maybe they didn't know about the law, which, if that's the case, I'm sure someone got fired over it -dave
[2005-04-15 10:03:05] - aaron: yeah I don't know. maybe it makes it easier to market / gain marketshare in China -dave
[2005-04-15 09:50:57] - dave: Why would anybody enter a joint venture with a chinese firm then? It just seems like a very bad deal - aaron
[2005-04-15 09:47:36] - ahh maybe i should have read the whole article before commenting .) -amy
[2005-04-15 09:46:44] - dave: yeah, I was speaking to this: "Proponents say the changes are needed to end abuses by people who shirk their financial obligations." ...I really don't think that is really the case. -amy
[2005-04-15 09:44:02] - amy: yeah, I don't think the companies care at all about the person, they just care about making as much money as possible -dave
[2005-04-15 09:43:14] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050414-4810.html?94567 student loan interest breaks proposed for science and engineering students -dave
[2005-04-15 09:41:52] - ...because it seems that it is just giving companies more opportunity to make money off of people rather than giving people a chance to own up to their "financial responsibility." -amy
[2005-04-15 09:41:10] - dave: i have heard this before; the credit card companies make enough off the interest that they don't even care if you file for bankruptcy. though i am not sure about this supposed new policy... -amy
[2005-04-15 09:36:23] - http://motortrend.com/features/news/112_news59/ Chinese laws let Chinese firms do whatever they want with partner's IP. This kind of links into the whole IP argument -dave
[2005-04-15 09:26:51] - a: I'm not sure what you are referring to. -Paul
[2005-04-15 09:22:52] - dave: Makes total sense.... someone who is likely to get in debt again and guaranteed not to shirk on it for 8 years, that's such a great deal - aaron
[2005-04-15 09:22:23] - http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20050414-1713-ephedrasuit.html federal ban on ephedra lifted. - mig
[2005-04-15 09:07:04] - aaron: haha, that's great -dave
[2005-04-15 09:04:14] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54745-2005Apr14.html apparently, people who declare bankruptcy are prime targets for credit card companies -dave
[2005-04-15 09:04:13] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/14/mit.prank.reut/index.html MIT students accepted to a scientific conference, based on a paper which is actually computer-generated gibberish. The title, "Rooter: A Methodology for the Typical Unification of Access Points and Redundancy" - aaron
[2005-04-14 23:03:14] - xpovos: no backups of your data? i'll host your site until your computer gets back up (assuming you have a backup of the data) ~a
[2005-04-14 23:00:40] - paul: the evolutionary biologist theory seems pretty good if evolution is taken as a prerequisite. ~a
[2005-04-14 21:34:40] - Xpovos: I don't think I can fix that, sorry. -Paul
[2005-04-14 21:33:02] - Xpovos: Well, your away messages from a week or so ago were talking about hard drive problems so I figured you were having computer problems. -Paul
[2005-04-14 20:40:40] - And no, you can't help, unless you can repair a hard drive that has probably had a head crash. -- Xpovos
[2005-04-14 20:40:17] - Paul: Away messages? I havn't been on AIM in a few days.
-- Xpovos[2005-04-14 16:39:20] - Xpovos: Is there anything I can do to help? -Paul
[2005-04-14 16:39:11] - Xpovos: I had noticed, and had also read some of your away messages, so I put two and two together and figured you were just blocking me from your journal.
-Paul[2005-04-14 16:36:10] - In case anyone was wondering, Xpovos.org is obviously down right now, and it's a result of computer failure. It may not be returning any time soon, either, so no new journal entries for a while. -- Xpovos
[2005-04-14 15:51:44] - aaron: hehe i know, i saw your office .) -amy
[2005-04-14 15:42:15] - amy: I have two roommates and my screen is at a 20 degree angle to his line of sight! i win - aaron
[2005-04-14 15:39:45] - mig: clever clever .)
[2005-04-14 15:39:31] - Paul: lol, it's no big deal .) don't worry about it .) -amy
[2005-04-14 15:39:13] - amy: that's why i ssh to my comp from home and use links. it just looks like i have an xterm up! - mig
[2005-04-14 15:36:33] - Amy: Sorry
I have my own office right now so I guess I sometimes forget that other people at work have that problem. I'll try to make my links more wholesome from now on. -Paul[2005-04-14 15:32:25] - well the headlines were... ... anyway, i have an officemate and my screen is at a 90-degree angle to his line of sight so... -amy
[2005-04-14 15:29:12] - At least it didn't have any horribly inappropriate (for work) pictures. I've had that problem with wikipedia before while at work. -Paul
[2005-04-14 15:28:09] - Amy: Heh, sorry. That's about on the edge of what I feel comfortable searching for while at work but that's because I think (hope?) that they aren't monitoring me in any way.
-Paul[2005-04-14 15:24:17] - Paul: i know, i figured that's what you meant ,) I feel weird reading your link here, as it is only my 4th day at this job... then again i had no problem with contributing to this discussion .p -amy
[2005-04-14 15:21:42] - Amy: No good THEORY. I'm sure most women would maintain there is a good reason. -Paul
[2005-04-14 15:21:03] - Aaron: As if having our young be totally helpless for the first couple years of their lives wasn't bad enough. It's a miracle we survived as a species. -Paul
[2005-04-14 15:20:48] - paul: no good reason? bah. ,) -amy
[2005-04-14 15:20:26] - aaron: i think that the 9-month thing would affect that more? though maybe you are right, b/c without such a short ovulation period ppl would just have kids every 9 months right? -amy
[2005-04-14 15:20:11] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_orgasm It sounds like wiki claims that there is no good theory as to why the female orgasm exists. -Paul
[2005-04-14 15:18:30] - amy: imho the 48-hours-out-of-28 thing sounds like something that might have evolved to prevent humans from having too many children. Just one of the many hacks god threw in while trying to hit that magic "2.1" population replacement number - aaron
[2005-04-14 15:15:52] - Paul: Hehe yes I agree. It would be interesting to see some scientific evidence or articles on this subject -amy
[2005-04-14 15:14:09] - Amy: Conceptually, that all makes sense to me, although I wonder if that necessarily means it is true.
-Paul[2005-04-14 15:09:57] - so it makes sense that there would have to be specific conditions for optimal chance of conception, e.g. the female climaxing. -amy
[2005-04-14 15:08:43] - ...however once impregnated, the body goes through a lot of effort to develop the child healthily -amy
[2005-04-14 15:08:25] - the more i think about it... the more it makes sense that the female body is not optimally designed for conception. ovulation occurs what, 48 hours out of a 28-day period? and it takes many tries to conceive, sometimes years...
[2005-04-14 15:06:57] - lasting longer. -Paul
[2005-04-14 15:06:51] - "if the woman climaxing is a variable in conception, then premature ejaculation is evolutionarily undesirable" Agreed. When I first made the statement about premature ejaculation being a good thing, I wasn't considering the other potential variables. The more I think about it, though, the more I think that there could be benefits for... -Paul
[2005-04-14 14:59:31] - ...secondarily? -amy
[2005-04-14 14:59:28] - I think that based on anatomic/biological design, it is harder or takes longer for women to climax than for men, so if the woman climaxing is a variable in conception, then premature ejaculation is evolutionarily undesirable. I do think that the design of female reproductive anatomy seems to be primarily for childbearing and perhaps conception...
[2005-04-14 14:44:50] - I wonder if the same thing would've been said had the races been reversed. This is one of those times I AM posting an article intending to make a point.
-Paul[2005-04-14 14:44:17] - http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/3540562 Rourke was white and the suspect is black, but "racism had nothing to do with it," Trevino said. "This is a behavior problem not a racial problem." -Paul
[2005-04-14 14:42:04] - So you think it has more to do with the downside of having to give birth than having to do with signaling when is the prime time for best chances at conception? -Paul
[2005-04-14 14:35:13] - paul: if you think about it biologically it makes sense... without going into too much detail, it is the same part of the anatomy for women that also has to bear children, so there is a limit to how sensitive that area can be
[2005-04-14 14:28:06] - As to what that reason is, I really couldn't say, other than maybe it somehow indicates the prime time to initiate "fertilization", for lack of a better term. -Paul
[2005-04-14 14:27:09] - Amy: I really have no idea, having not done any research into the topic. I would have to guess, though, that there has to be some evolutionary reason why (supposedly) it takes women longer to orgasm on average than it takes men. -Paul
[2005-04-14 14:24:42] - Oh man, I've become as dumb as an anti-oil crusdader.
-Paul[2005-04-14 14:21:14] - Also, apologies if I have led our conversation into a weird territory 0.) -amy
[2005-04-14 14:20:33] - Obv. there is more chance of the woman climaxing if it lasts 8 min as opposed to 2 but acc. statistics doesn't it take 15-20 min on avg for women anyway? -amy
[2005-04-14 14:19:36] - Paul: *points to title* (in re: super vision) .) -amy
[2005-04-14 14:12:43] - Well, other than the obvious. -Paul
[2005-04-14 14:07:35] - Amy: I'm less sure than you, but I wouldn't be surprised if something positive (in regards to increased chances of conception) happens during intercourse. -Paul
[2005-04-14 14:05:45] - Damn, I re-used the term "super vision", obviously I don't have super originality catch-phrase generating. -Paul
[2005-04-14 14:00:56] - Paul: Honestly I am not sure how common it is for women to climax during the latter 6 minutes anyway, so it may be moot .p -amy
[2005-04-14 14:00:22] - Vinnie: I have to agree with Paul. *shakes fist at Vinnie and all ppl who wear lenses* ,) -amy
[2005-04-14 13:55:01] - Amy: I was wondering about that, if there was something about 7-8 minutes that increased the chance of conception. No idea what that would be, but I'm guessing you're right. -Paul
[2005-04-14 13:53:39] - Vinnie: Too true. All you bastards with your glasses, preventing us super vision people from passing on our superior genes so that future generations will have super vision. -Paul
[2005-04-14 13:49:55] - paul: i have also heard there is a higher chance of conception if the woman climaxes also -amy
[2005-04-14 13:49:46] - paul: hah, we've been trying to fight evolution for a looooong time - vinnie
[2005-04-14 13:33:50] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/04/14/health.ejaculation.reut/index.html I wonder, shouldn't premature ejaculation be a good thing in terms of evolution? You would think that the faster you could impregnate a female, the better. Are we trying to fight evolution here? -Paul
[2005-04-14 13:03:44] - Aaron: Yeah, I guess it makes sense that too much of anything is bad for you but I'm still surprised about things about being unable to drink a certain amount of milk or something as harmless as drinking too much water being deadly. -Paul
[2005-04-14 12:38:19] - paul: I know where you're coming from, i remember in college when i first learned about Vitamin C poisoning and i was like, "what?? it's poisonous?! that smoothie place tricked me" - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:35:49] - amy: you're hypowelcome - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:34:24] - Aaron: Yeah, it's weird. I've heard about problems during surgery where people have died because they were accidentally pumped too full of water but I never thought the same thing could happen just from drinking too much. -Paul
[2005-04-14 12:31:00] - aaron: thanks for the link on hyponatremia and contributing to my hypochondria ,) (seriously, it's interesting) -amy
[2005-04-14 12:30:26] - paul: As long as you're eating your body is taking on new sodium, so I think that helps. I don't know if going to the bathroom matters or not honestly, it just struck me that the runners were keeping all of that water in their bodies for the duration fo the marathon - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:29:00] - paul: Hmm okay that's cool. I don't remember that consensus although I think i agree with it - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:28:50] - Aaron: So would you be ok if you ate and went to the bathroom while drinking three liters of water during a short period of time? -Paul
[2005-04-14 12:27:45] - Aaron: It seems to me that they usually try to go with whatever is popular in their local area unless a big enough fuss is raised by an outside force (like the ACLU or a comparable Christian organization). Although I think non-conservative free speech is usually given precedence over popularity. -Paul
[2005-04-14 12:27:21] - paul: If you think of marathon conditions, these are people who drink 3L of water (six bottles?!) and don't eat or go to the bathroom for 4 hours, which is pretty extreme. I can't imagine doing that accidentally while sitting around - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:26:26] - paul: It can happen whether or not you're active, I've heard of a case where a woman died overnight from drinking a lot of water in her home. Being physically active might contribute to the problem, because I suspect there's sodium in sweat - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:26:06] - http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7494200/ -mel
[2005-04-14 12:25:57] - new NASA chief chosen. He is/was the head of the space department at Johns Hopkins University’s Applied Physics Laboratory. -mel
[2005-04-14 12:25:50] - Aaron: Oh, ok. I just wanted to make sure since I think lots of times people think I post articles to make a point (which is sometimes true). I don't think everybody came to a consensus last time, but I think most people agreed that it was legal for schools to ban whatever they want, but not necessarily constitutional. -Paul
[2005-04-14 12:25:02] - paul: i find that school reactions typically just follow a bandwagon pattern. - mig
[2005-04-14 12:24:26] - paul: I think they generally tried to side with the parents as much as possible, don't they? - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:24:19] - Aaron: Whoa, how does that work? Is it because they are drinking too much water while running or could it happen if you drink too much water while just sitting around? Is there something better than water to drink instead? -Paul
[2005-04-14 12:22:35] - paul: I wasn't trying to take a side either, I can understand both sides of that argument. I was just trying to remember how that resolved last time - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:21:04] - Again, not that I'm trying to choose sides. It just seems like public schools are such perfect little locations for crazy rules and rebellions like this to happen. -Paul
[2005-04-14 12:20:02] - I'm probably the only one, but I am always amused by how public schools handle issues like this. Go with public opinion? Go with the seemingly more logical side? Go with the ACLU? Go with the overreaction? There really doesn't seem to be a consistent way that public schools handle things like this. -Paul
[2005-04-14 12:20:02] - http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=139853658&p=y39854364 recent study on hyponatremia, a condition brought on when you drink too much water. This was brought up recently so i thought it was postworthy - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:19:30] - aaron: the difference is that you choose where to work, so you understand all the rules and such. you can't exactly "choose" to go to school or not, which is why people get riled up when schools suspend kids for stuff like this. - mig
[2005-04-14 12:18:25] - Aaron: Are we talking about the school article? btw, I don't know how the first characters of those quotes got so messed up. I wasn't taking a side, just posting the article for information purposes. -Paul
[2005-04-14 12:17:30] - Also, the location and shape of the "ABC 7" logo makes it look like he has neck bolts at a glance - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:16:40] - paul: A lot of businessplaces have similarly "discriminatory" laws regarding what can and can't be worn. We've talked about this right? - aaron
[2005-04-14 12:13:31] - amy: Excellent - ddr_people
[2005-04-14 12:04:56] - ddr_people: i called lori and talked to vin so it looks like we are doing 5.45 today. yay! -amy
[2005-04-14 12:02:33] - http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/041305_ns_suspended.html "oy Suspended For Wearing Makeup?" I found it amusing that they said, " Herndon, who is repeating his second year at the school"
-Paul[2005-04-14 12:00:40] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7492730 Maybe it's beating a dead horse, but "Audit finds poor service at the IRS" -Paul
[2005-04-14 11:44:52] - Aaron: I don't know how the estate tax affects businesses, but I do know that government ownership of companies is generally a big no-no in a free market. Even in the quasi-free market that the United States has, it's still a big taboo thing. So I doubt the government ever really owns a part of a company. -Paul
[2005-04-14 11:44:11] - aaron: yeah, it hits small businesses harder because more of the "ownership" is concentrated among smaller number of individuals, usually just one person in a lot of cases. - mig
[2005-04-14 11:03:42] - Is it possible for companies to fall under estate tax laws? Like if someone like Bill Gates died, and if he were a US citizen, is it possible the government would own %45 of microsoft? I ask because I've read about how the estate tax hits small businesses hard - aaron
[2005-04-14 11:01:09] - paul: I just realized this morning that "South Park" has an ooold episode where a kid finds a finger in a bowl of chili - aaron
[2005-04-14 10:38:26] - Is there a reason I capitalized the word "Chili"? -Paul
[2005-04-14 10:35:27] - http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/04/13/state/n095153D92.DTL Could the whole story about a woman finding a finger in her Chili be made up by the "victim"? -Paul
[2005-04-14 10:31:11] - http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/ESTATE_TAX?SITE=ININS&SECTION=HOME Some more information about the estate tax, including arguments against it and how it's been phased out over the past 3 years. -Paul
[2005-04-14 09:45:12] - http://www.detnews.com/2005/business/0504/13/B03-148928.htm congress exercises their all-important constitutional authority to decide how efficient ceiling fans should be. - mig
[2005-04-14 09:17:12] - aaron: i also got said email about land, elephants, floating, etc. ,) -amy
[2005-04-14 08:55:45] - amy: I just got an e-mail from Adrian. He's off playing an imaginary DDR mix in the land of floating fairy elephants. I don't think he'll be here until the weekend or maybe later - aaron
[2005-04-14 08:53:59] - amy: "5:45" sounds good to me.
- aaron[2005-04-14 08:19:14] - ddr_people: i'm just gonna throw a time out here and let me know if you can or can't make it... 5.45 today? is adrian around? -amy
[2005-04-13 18:04:02] - Aaron: I guess so. It's just odd to hear a scientist giving praise to somebody for being stubborn and not willing to change their mind about things.
-Paul[2005-04-13 17:56:11] - You mean, because he attributes success partially to the romantics? Yes i guess that is kind of unusual. - aaron
[2005-04-13 17:02:51] - It seems unusual for one of them to admit that some of their follows are stubborn not only that, but he seems to think it's a good thing too. -paul
[2005-04-13 17:02:20] - Aaron: I know, but usually you hear about how science is so good because it's willing to change it's mind when it's wrong and that's why religion is bad. Usually environmental scientists try to tou how open minded they are. -paul
[2005-04-13 16:52:25] - paul: Anyways true scientisty types shouldn't base their opinions of people on the viewpoints they hold, or how stubborn they are - aaron
[2005-04-13 16:52:04] - paul: Well as long as they're on his side i'm sure he doesn't mind them as much - aaron
[2005-04-13 16:43:37] - Aaron: I guess, although I was surprised that he had such kind words for the "romantics". I wouldn't normally think a scientist type would think very favorably of people who don't like changing their minds. -Paul
[2005-04-13 16:41:20] - paul: He must be on the scientific side of it then
- aaron[2005-04-13 16:32:32] - Aaron: I was surprised about a lot of the stuff in the article. The author clearly still believes strongly in environmentalism and everything, yet he's going out and making points that run counter to a lot of environmentalist beliefs. -Paul
[2005-04-13 16:26:22] - paul: Urbanization is a surprising one for me there. I like the story that goes along with it too. - aaron
[2005-04-13 16:13:07] - http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/05/issue/feature_earth.asp "Over the next ten years, I predict, the mainstream of the environmental movement will reverse its opinion and activism in four major areas: population growth, urbanization, genetically engineered organisms, and nuclear power." -Paul
[2005-04-13 15:30:13] - Yeah, there are certainly people who DO eat there every day, but at one point in the movie they classified a group of people as the "Heavy Eaters" or something like that (basically, the group that eats at McD the most) and the group on average only went there like 4-6 times a week I think. -Paul
[2005-04-13 15:25:08] - amy: maybe to put on a pretense of objectivity, i guess. - mig
[2005-04-13 15:24:02] - paul: i think there were some extreme cases, and i remember reading about some kid who ballooned to like 400+ at age like 15-16 because he ate there for all his meals since he was like 5 or 6. but those are helluh rare cases.
[2005-04-13 15:19:04] - In super size me -- and I don't know why they had this -- there was a clip of a guy who went there every day, i believe he was even wearing mcdonald's paraphernalia, he was fanatical. anyway he was skinny and seemed to be in perfectly good health. seems counter-productive to put it in the movie but it was interesting. -amy
[2005-04-13 15:14:41] - As for whether or not I would be more willing to accept it if it's only for the rich, I believe people know my position on that.
-Paul[2005-04-13 15:14:06] - There's been a lot of talk about getting rid of the "death" tax so I wouldn't be surprised at all if the rules have been relaxed a lot lately. -Paul
[2005-04-13 15:13:13] - Aaron: I hope it's just scientists being scientists. I saw a part of Super Size Me and even in that movie, it sounded like even the "worst" group of McDonald's eaters didn't usually eat there more than 4-6 times a week. -Paul
[2005-04-13 15:09:46] - it used to affect a lot more people before, if i'm not mistaken. - mig
[2005-04-13 15:09:28] - aaron: it was changed before, i just don't remember when. - mig
[2005-04-13 15:08:56] - dave: Okay, so that's for this year..... The way it's worded, it sounds like the laws may have changed recently. - aaron
[2005-04-13 15:08:18] - dave: it doesn't make any difference to me whether it's just rich people getting effected by it. Liberals try to justify these kind of taxes using that reasoning, though. - mig
[2005-04-13 15:03:50] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/13/house.estatetax.ap/index.html Currently if it is less than 1.5mil for an individual or 3 mil for a couple you don't get taxed. Supposedly by 2009 it's supposed to change to 3.5 mil and 7 mil respectively. -dave
[2005-04-13 14:57:18] - dave: What? I thought "estate tax" meant that when you die, like %55 of your net worth is owed to the government in taxes or they repossess your stuff... and i thought it was more or less a flat rate. Are you sure you don't get taxed at all if you own less than 3,000,000 worth of stuff? That seems dubious - aaron
[2005-04-13 14:55:52] - paul: I consider myself a habitual person but I can't imagine eating the same thing more than 10 times a week... your body just gets sick of it. Is this an actual health problem or just scientists being scientists? - aaron
[2005-04-13 14:55:01] - apparently, currently only estates above something like 3 or 4 million get taxed. The number is supposed to up to like 5 or 6 mil in the next year or so. Does this change anyone's opinion? Are we more willing to accept it if it's only for the rich? -dave
[2005-04-13 14:53:57] - mig: Well, like all taxes (except lottery winnings tax) it helps bridge the gap between those who invest their money wisely and those who throw their money away - aaron
[2005-04-13 14:28:53] - not too mention the fact that i find it very morally repugnant to essentially say, "Sorry for your loss. You owe us $x now. Pay up or go to jail." - mig
[2005-04-13 14:27:58] - dave: i dislike it because it further reinforces the notion the government actually owns all our possessions and money, and that it lets us use them in its "generosity." - mig
[2005-04-13 14:26:24] - http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-04-13T073943Z_01_JON327475_RTRIDST_0_OUKOE-HEALTH-HONGKONG-DIMSUM.XML There is another food besides McDonald's food which will cause health problems if you eat it every meal of the day. -Paul
[2005-04-13 14:06:21] - dave: estate taxes = bad. - mig
[2005-04-13 14:01:27] - Dave: I could probably give you the arguments FOR the estate tax if you like, even though I don't believe it's a good idea. -Paul
[2005-04-13 13:59:42] - Paul: heh heh, thx. ^_^ -dave
[2005-04-13 13:41:17] - Dave: I think there are some people who sometimes post to the message board who might think it's a good idea but I don't think they're reading right now.
-Paul[2005-04-13 13:37:05] - Paul: on the msg board -dave
[2005-04-13 13:18:09] - Dave: You mean anyone on the message board or anyone in general? -Paul
[2005-04-13 13:06:41] - does anyone think that the estate tax is a good thing? -dave
[2005-04-13 13:00:46] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/08/earth.trading.carbon/index.html heh heh, in Kyoto Protocol, countries can sell their excess allotment of greenhouse gases to other countries -dave
[2005-04-13 12:57:21] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/13/daughters.sold.ap/index.html woman hawks 12 year old daughter as prostitute and sold 14 year old daughter for a car -dave
[2005-04-13 12:54:53] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/04/13/afghanistan.rumsfeld/index.html Afghans want longterm security ties to the US (translate = keep US troops here). Kinda ironic in the face of other countries wanting the US to leave -dave
[2005-04-13 12:54:27] - dave: it does not consider itself part of china either ,) -amy
[2005-04-13 12:53:31] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/04/13/new.sat.ap/index.html 3 sections to the SAT now, so top score is 2400 -dave
[2005-04-13 12:52:41] - http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/7249078/britneyspears?pageid=rs.News&pageregion=double1&rnd=1113411139271&has-player=true&version=6. britney is pregnant -mel
[2005-04-13 12:52:31] - Aaron: The McAfrika thing? I don't think so. It's like the pink jersey thing from before. I'm surprised anybody got offended by this. -Paul
[2005-04-13 12:49:54] - incidentally, the huge downturn in the US manufacturing area is probably also a somewhat direct result of those factors -dave
[2005-04-13 12:49:19] - amy: if you look at raw materials like copper, aluminum, etc. They have skyrocketed in price too. If you're talking about retail/end products, I would say they haven't really gone up in price much. Probably because most of manufacturing for large quantities is done in China, where labor is cheap. -dave
[2005-04-13 12:45:56] - amy: yeah, taiwan too, I don't really consider it part of China though -dave
[2005-04-13 12:43:56] - paul: is it that blatant? I wouldn't have figured that out on my own - aaron
[2005-04-13 12:42:01] - http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article385648.ece McDonald's sorry for burger blunder -Paul
[2005-04-13 12:01:04] - It's been like that for overpopulation, global warming, AIDS, oil... You just never know when (or if) things are going to reach critical mass and go out with a big bang. -Paul
[2005-04-13 11:58:40] - I'm not saying that we'll never run out of oil or the housing "bubble" won't burst, just that things that seem like they're going to happen soon like this often go on longer than expected. -Paul
[2005-04-13 11:57:48] - (erm. i meant about the leaving alone, not necessarily the relatives .) ) -amy
[2005-04-13 11:57:39] - This seems a whole lot like the situation with housing prices. If you examine the system, it certainly does seem like it can go on forever and that it's doomed for an immediate and very bad ending, but the dire prediction never seems to pan out for whatever reason. -Paul
[2005-04-13 11:54:27] - dave: ooh. taiwan, too i hope .) -amy
[2005-04-13 11:53:45] - i don't really understand all this oil/economy stuff... if this is truly the demise of our economy then shouldn't we be seeing prices of everything rise, not just gas? -amy
[2005-04-13 11:48:34] - mig: I second the motion! Except you gotta leave Hong Kong alone cuz I have relatives there unfortunately -dave
[2005-04-13 11:48:09] - aaron: that coupled with the fact that oil production doesn't change all THAT much from year to year, and you get really high prices -dave
[2005-04-13 11:47:47] - dave: so the solution is obvious now: nuke china! - mig
[2005-04-13 11:46:32] - aaron: the reason oil prices (and many other natural resources) have skyrocketed in the past few years is because China has been consuming it like there's no tomorrow. I don't know specific numbers, but they increase their intake by some crazy amount like 20% each year for the past 5-10 years -dave
[2005-04-13 11:45:14] - aaron: there could be gobs and gobs of oil available, but if we can't produce enough to keep with demand then prices will go up, no matter how much oil is really available. - mig
[2005-04-13 11:44:37] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050412-4804.html?5401 kinda interesting. apparently overclocking causes windows crashes that don't seem to necessarily point back to oc'ing. What's more is that a lot of people have OCed machines without knowing it -dave
[2005-04-13 11:39:48] - Aaron: Yeah, but I'm not sure that has anything to do with us running out of oil. So many things influence oil prices and there have been huge spikes and declines before. -Paul
[2005-04-13 11:38:14] - title: that's not funny! he's just saying what you do when you go skiing - stewie
[2005-04-13 11:33:32] - paul: And instead, prices just doubled - aaron
[2005-04-13 11:20:13] - I remember doing a "science project" in grade school where I was presenting alternative forms of energy and at the time it was widely believed that we would run out of oil sometime in 2004 or something like that. -Paul
[2005-04-13 11:16:58] - I mean i'm "sure" there's replacements for things like pesticides and fertilizers and plastics that aren't as oil-dependent as what we're using now - aaron
[2005-04-13 11:11:17] - I love the arguments about (seemingly) how oil is impossible to replace. economists and politicians insist we can have c without a. But a is used to create b which is used to create c, therefore we can't have c without a. - aaron
[2005-04-13 11:04:22] - aaron: oh i know! i was goign to quote that .D
[2005-04-13 11:03:46] - favorite sentence: "As we slide down the downslope slope of the global oil production curve" - aaron
[2005-04-13 11:01:10] - (sorry, that was me) - amy
[2005-04-13 11:00:38] - don't know if this has already been posted yet, but i found an interesting site: http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
[2005-04-13 10:02:30] - Dave: Yeah, I've been told that the Prius uses it's electrical motor more during city driving which is why it actually does better in terms of gas mileage in the city than on the highway. -Paul
[2005-04-13 08:32:32] - Paul: but that's true for "normal" cars too, getting bad mileage when it's cold -dave
[2005-04-13 08:32:00] - Paul: amusingly, the Prius gets worse gas mileage on the highway. Also, my parents said that it seemed to get bad mileage when the weather was really cold as well -dave
[2005-04-12 21:34:41] - http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/10510.html enterprise is now officially dead after this season. - mig
[2005-04-12 17:25:40] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/12/killing.wildcats.ap/index.html counties in wisconsin consider legalizing cat hunting - aaron
[2005-04-12 10:36:49] - mig: It hovers right around 45-51 if i'm not mistaken. - aaron
[2005-04-12 10:22:18] - aaron: did paul o. ever say how much mpg he was getting on his hybrid? - mig
[2005-04-12 10:10:27] - Aaron: 44 mpg? I think my Echo has gotten that on a trip to Ohio before. -Paul
[2005-04-12 10:04:31] - http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-06-10-diesel-vs-hybrid_x.htm found this indirectly off of paul's page, an interesting article comparing diesel-fueled cars versus gas-electric hybrids - aaron
[2005-04-12 09:46:54] - ah, kobe bryant, too. - mig
[2005-04-12 09:42:16] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050411-4798.html "Toyota Prius owners laugh all the way to the bank" -Paul
[2005-04-12 09:41:07] - heh, and i completely forgot about amare stoudamire, also. - mig
[2005-04-12 09:39:20] - if the nba gets rid of guaranteed contracts, i think the whole age problem will settle itself out as a result. - mig
[2005-04-12 09:37:49] - honeslty i don't know how it's hurt the sport, really. Sure they're have been a lot of busts, but i think the positives from some of the players taken that have superstars has outweighed the disadvantages. - mig
[2005-04-12 09:36:32] - dave: i think a lot of o'neal said was nonsense, but ... isn't the cat out of the bag already for this age thing? It seems kind of silly to roll it back, and it might get harder if another kg/tmac/lebron/dwhoward type player comes around. - mig
[2005-04-12 09:29:54] - dave: Tsk. I seriously hope people criticizing bush's music collection are doing it tongue-in-cheek. "My Sharona" is a good song! - aaron
[2005-04-12 09:26:36] - a: If you search for Samba De Amigo within 50 miles of 22033, that arcade in Tijuana comes up. Tijuana's "zip code" or whatever it is, happens to correspond to a US zip code which is somewhere in NW VA - aaron
[2005-04-12 09:24:21] - amy: I can cut out earlier, definitely - aaron
[2005-04-12 09:09:27] - ddr_people: if 6.30 is really the earliest ppl can make it, that is fine, i will just stay the 2 extra hrs and maybe i can get out of work early on fridays .) or go to work late after a crazy thursday night of DDR shenanigans -amy
[2005-04-12 09:06:57] - amy: i wouldn't have a problem with that but I'm imagining aaron and adrian might - at least adrian would have to make it to work earlier than usual
- lori[2005-04-12 08:51:03] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/04/09/kid.counterfeiting.ap/index.html 6th grader accused of counterfeiting -dave
[2005-04-12 08:48:15] - -dave
[2005-04-12 08:48:12] - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/basketball/nba/04/12/bc.bkn.pacers.o.neal.racism.ap/index.html?cnn=yes O'Neal thinks age limit in the NBA is racist? 0_o
[2005-04-12 08:45:51] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/12/bush.ipod/index.html playlist of "iPod One" revealed -dave
[2005-04-12 08:26:26] - DDR_people: (is there a color for that too?) would it be possible to move the time earlier? I am not sure but I think I was the one who originally said 6.30 'cause I used to work in Dulles... now to make it to DDR at 6.30 I either have to stay at work 2 extra hours or spend those 2 hrs driving home and back. thoughts? -amy
[2005-04-11 20:28:09] - "7AM a 10 PM , Toda la semana!" ~a
[2005-04-11 20:27:40] - aaron: HUH?! i think (hope) your link got broken. i just (8:25pm) clicked on your link and it took me to a 7th mix in mexico that costs 3 pesos. i don't think mexico is 40 miles away
~a[2005-04-11 18:29:16] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/11/people.shelton.ap/index.html Apprentice's "chris" arrested on a disorderly conduct charge - aaron
[2005-04-11 16:39:05] - a: http://www.ddrfreak.com/locations/locations.php?action=displayLocation&locationID=4200 they have samba de amigo here, and it's only 40 miles away! we should go here and play sometime - aaron
[2005-04-11 16:36:17] - a: Also, it's worth noting they have a Playstation release scheduled to release soon. - aaron
[2005-04-11 16:35:47] - I have never played it but from what I heard it's pretty professional, although in classic stepmania fashion, some of the step sets are stupid-impossible. - aaron
[2005-04-11 16:35:16] - a: Hehe. Some people reverse-engineered the DDR software and figured out how to make their own version, with their own music and steps and everything. Kid Whatever aka Disko Zombie has 2 songs on the current version and 6 songs in the upcoming release of ITG2 - aaron
[2005-04-11 16:32:36] - aaron: what the heck is the ddr-version called "in the groove" (my ddr locations) ~a
[2005-04-11 16:20:52] - mig: I think it's a combination of a lot of things but having the killer app seems very important. Halo has played a huge role in allowing the Xbox to survive. -Paul
[2005-04-11 16:19:26] - it's not about who gets released first, it's mainly who has the most "killer apps", which playstation has had more of. - mig
[2005-04-11 16:17:32] - Aaron: Right, but there are also compelling reasons to want to release your console before your competitor too. Easier to get market share when you're running unopposed. -Paul
[2005-04-11 16:16:39] - aaron: i don't think that's true. i think ps2 has had a slight edge in the war and it did come out sooner than both the x-box and gamecube. - mig
[2005-04-11 16:16:04] - Aaron: True, but I think the Dreamcast was too underpowered for it's time. The Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 when it came out but it didn't kill off the PS2 like the PS2 did to the Dreamcast. -Paul
[2005-04-11 16:14:52] - paul: It's like the whole "gas station" problem if you ever heard that one - you always want to put your gas station just a little bit in front of your competitors. With consoles, you always want to release your console a little bit after your competitors (cheaper prices for better hardware) - aaron
[2005-04-11 16:13:57] - paul: And the problem with the sega genesis, and the problem with the sega master system, it's something they do a lot. No matter how top of the line your system is, the later system will always* win a hardware war - aaron
[2005-04-11 16:10:40] - Sega's problem was that the Dreamcast wasn't powerful enough to compete with the other consoles that came out soon afterwards. I don't think MS will be making that same mistake considering how much more powerful the original Xbox was over the PS2. -Paul
[2005-04-11 16:09:22] - Mig: Probably they saw what PS2 did to the XBox last time and they don't want a repeat. -Paul
[2005-04-11 16:03:55] - aaron: i do believe microsoft's strat is rushing to be first out. - mig
[2005-04-11 15:48:14] - mig: Is it too soon to be revealing a new next-gen system?? I hope microsoft's not pulling a Sega here. When are the other next-gen systems due? - aaron
[2005-04-11 15:35:36] - http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/603/603130p1.html?ui=rssFeed xbox 2 to be revealed on live tv on mtv on may 12th. - mig
[2005-04-11 14:34:34] - lori: i called you a few times. ~a
[2005-04-11 14:22:53] - In reality, very loud infrasonic tones are rumored to have this effect (cause loss of bowel control) - aaron
[2005-04-11 14:22:17] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_noise - aaron
[2005-04-11 14:06:54] - paul: Well now I have to watch more episodes and try and spot him... That is very strange - aaron
[2005-04-11 13:54:28] - a: Denver? For how long? I used to have a cousin there until a few eeks ago... - lori
[2005-04-11 13:54:19] - amy: sorry, that was me - lori
[2005-04-11 13:53:30] - amy: sounds like a good idea to me
[2005-04-11 13:51:33] - a: Aaron and I thought it was weirder than usual when we were watching an episode where the Dog with Meat makes an appearance. -Paul
[2005-04-11 13:41:29] - paul: weird. i never noticed that. ~a
[2005-04-11 13:16:29] - Aaron: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invader_Zim See the section labeled "Dog (of Madness/with Meat)". -Paul
[2005-04-11 13:16:23] - a: i am able to identify colorado on a map. - amy
[2005-04-11 13:03:13] - i third saturday afternoons. - aaron
[2005-04-11 12:38:16] - or better yet . . . do i know anybody who lives in denver? ~a
[2005-04-11 12:37:33] - hey, i might travel to denver tomorrow ( as i found out about it like ten minutes ago! ) . . . does anybody know anybody who lives in denver? ~a
[2005-04-11 11:59:47] - i like saturday afternoons. - mig
[2005-04-11 11:32:53] - saturday afternoons are good for me. ~a
[2005-04-11 11:31:44] - ultimate_people: bi-weekly means every other week, at least that's how i meant it to mean .) - amy
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