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[2005-04-11 11:31:21] - vinnie: weekends are a good idea, more daylight hours etc. I like sat afternoon for ultimate. -amy
[2005-04-11 11:31:20] - does bi-weekly mean once every other week or does it mean twice a week? -ultimate_people
[2005-04-11 11:30:53] - aaron: "might"?? you mean *will* .) -amy
[2005-04-11 11:21:32] - amy: saturday afternoons might work well. I'd prefer to not do it on fridays because we normally do basketball then - vinnie
[2005-04-11 11:20:26] - amy: I might go next time - aaron
[2005-04-11 11:01:24] - ultimate_people: (wow it gets its own color!) would there be any interest in making ultimate a regular thing? maybe bi-weekly? i thought last friday was a lot of fun... thoughts? -amy
[2005-04-11 10:34:35] - http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/lifestyle/la-me-bitplayers8apr08,0,245297.story?coll=sfla-entertainment-headlines There's nothing quite like the environment of a Star Trek convention. -Paul
[2005-04-11 10:03:00] - at least with achilles you can model it in mathematics and physics. fyi, the original problem was here: supertask ~a
[2005-04-11 10:02:15] - aaron: i think this problem is a little different. it can't really be modeled in physics (as time approaches one, electrons will probably erratically pass through the switch and may or may not have enough time to reach the light bulb's filament) or mathematics (any equation you use will probably be undef at t=1). ~a
[2005-04-11 09:29:48] - http://www.angryflower.com/schrod.gif - aaron
[2005-04-11 09:19:30] - isn't that like the basis of quantum theory? you don't need to know which state it's in and you treat it like it's in both states at the same time? - aaron
[2005-04-11 09:19:00] - yes
[2005-04-11 01:33:03] - a lamp can be either on or off. begin with it on at time t = 0. at time t = 1/2, switch it off; at time t = 1/2 + 1/4, switch it on again; and so on. is the lamp on or off at time t = 1?
[2005-04-09 21:04:25] - dave: have my baby
[2005-04-08 17:33:55] - Paul: true, true. But everyone loves duckies ^_^ -dave
[2005-04-08 17:10:36] - Damn those batteries and those alcoholics... -Paul
[2005-04-08 16:58:04] - dave: for once, we are in agreement about something (AA). actually i hate both AA's, to be honest. - mig
[2005-04-08 16:57:50] - Dave: Maybe not, but I imagine if a SS agent used some rails to keep abortion protesters away from an abortion clinic while on duty, it would cause a bit of a stir. -Paul
[2005-04-08 16:52:09] - I hate AA -dave
[2005-04-08 16:45:56] - Paul: and besides you don't buy that our Govt should be protecting defenseless animals? heheheheh ^_^ -dave
[2005-04-08 16:44:49] - Paul: yeah, that's a good point, but I don't think they meant to do what they did in a governmental capacity -dave
[2005-04-08 16:10:43] - paul
- aaron[2005-04-08 16:09:36] - Looks like somebody is going to have to eat a pie. -Paul
[2005-04-08 16:05:10] - I don't think amy has one. I don't have one either. my parents do though, I think, as a last resort - vinnie
[2005-04-08 15:57:08] - a: i may buy one on the way anyway. if nothing else for sentimental reasons. - mig
[2005-04-08 15:56:17] - a: i might, but i don't have the time to sift through all my shit at home to find it. - mig
[2005-04-08 15:51:46] - i just figured you had one. ~a
[2005-04-08 15:51:41] - mig: amy might already have one. ~a'
[2005-04-08 15:43:17] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7432555/ Spammer sentenced to 9 years -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:39:42] - Aaron: That's often been a knock on AA, that it devalues the race/gender that is trying to be helped. Especially when everybody assumes that they only got the job because the company needed 40% women (or whatever). -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:34:29] - paul: One thing i hate about this type of AA is that like - it really devalues women. It's like, "ok so we hired the 10 engineers we need, and now let's get the 2 extra women we need to even out the numbers." But i guess if the norwegian business world is really sexist, maybe drastic measures like that are necessary. - aaron
[2005-04-08 15:34:27] - I know that's an incredibly vague story, but the point is that there's a difference between what a private citizen does and what a representative of the government does. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:33:44] - It's like when some mayor of some city awhile ago signed a petition of some sort saying homosexuality was immoral (or something like that). He was sued because a representative of the government shouldn't be saying such things but he argued that he signed it as a private citizen and not as mayor or governor or whatever. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:32:16] - Dave: Right, right. It's not so much that they're wasting money, it's that they acting as officials of the government and not just random citizens. It's not Joe Schmoe being cute and putting up rails for the duck. It's technically the United States government doing it. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:30:55] - Aaron: Yup, although it sounds like they left plenty of wiggle room in terms of when companies have to comply by and what the punishments will be. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:30:43] - Paul: so instead of lounging, they went and setup some rails -dave
[2005-04-08 15:30:00] - Paul: yeah, but so's the SS lounging around just chatting with one another, which I'm sure they do all the time -dave
[2005-04-08 15:29:53] - Dave: Ok, good. For the record, I know I'm sounding very petty here. The truth is I really don't care much either way, I just trying to express why I wasn't as amused with it as most people probably were. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:28:43] - Dave: Right, but that's still using government time and government resources for something incredibly silly, at best. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:28:39] - a: i guess i can try to buy one on my way over there. - mig
[2005-04-08 15:28:31] - Paul: I don't think you really have to try to explain it to me, I fully understand where you're coming from, or at least I believe I do. I don't even really think there's anything wrong with your viewpoint, I was just trying to explain why I thought they did it, and how much effort they expended -dave
[2005-04-08 15:27:35] - paul: Hehe. Great. %40 of each gender eh? Hmm. That's a pretty tight gap actually - aaron
[2005-04-08 15:26:32] - Paul: I'm sure the SS have a mountain of rails / materials to cordon off areas. They probably just got some and set them up. They were probably on-duty though and just not really doing anything important at the time -dave
[2005-04-08 15:25:52] - paul: gross exaggerations and bizarre metaphors are my territory - aaron
[2005-04-08 15:24:47] - I was trying to come up with an analogy where the church would be spending resources on something relatively harmless, but also something that Dave didn't think they should be spending resources on. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:23:56] - Dave: But where did they get the rails from? Did they buy it themselves? If it's just a bunch of off-duty SS people and the government had nothing to do with this whatsoever, then I take back most of what I said. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:23:04] - Aaron: Well, your analogy is actually probably a little more accurate but it doesn't explain my point very well.
-Paul[2005-04-08 15:22:54] - aaron: yeah, that fits fairly well -dave
[2005-04-08 15:22:16] - http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04/05/norway.women.reut/ Women forced onto Norway boards -paul
[2005-04-08 15:21:38] - Paul: but see, I don't think they "got involved" at all. I bet some SS people probably just saw it, and then were like, we've got nothin to do, why don't we put up some rails so it will be ok. Maybe after asking/making sure that their superiors didn't mind -dave
[2005-04-08 15:21:15] - paul: and i don't think he would be terribly against that, it would probably make the church bulletin and make everybody a little bit happier - aaron
[2005-04-08 15:20:51] - paul: I think a situation applicable to dave would be if a duck laid eggs on the front lawn of a church, and if they cared for it. - aaron
[2005-04-08 15:19:19] - Dave: Wouldn't you think that goes beyond the amusing kind of silliness and into the realm of stupidness? -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:18:29] - Dave: I guess maybe something that might be applicable for you would be if your church sent a minister to the duck to try to convince it to marry the father duck or something. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:17:51] - Dave: Right, I understand all that, I really don't have a problem with silliness like this done by normal people. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:16:08] - Dave: I can understand the cuteness of it and if it was just some random person doing it then I wouldn't have a problem at all. Even if I knew for sure it was just some off-duty SS people. What bothers me is that it really sounds like the government is getting involved here. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:15:46] - Paul: besides, people need things like that in their everyday life, otherwise they go insane. It's just like how most people at work could be 500% more productive if they worked all the time, but then they'd go insane without some relaxation at work -dave
[2005-04-08 15:14:32] - Paul: the people saw it, thought it was cute, and so put forth some minimal effort to try to keep it safe -dave
[2005-04-08 15:14:03] - Paul: I think the matter is much less a logical reaction and just a emotional / social reaction to the duck -dave
[2005-04-08 15:13:16] - Paul: It's completely understandable why you would think it is stupid, in fact, if someone asked me how you would react beforehand, I would probably have said you would think it is stupid and a waste of time -dave
[2005-04-08 15:12:57] - Aaron: I'm not saying they should chase away the duck at all. I'm saying they should treat it like every other duck and just not make a big fuss over it. -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:08:41] - paul: Well I'm saying PETA might be upset if the government chased away the duck. I guess they could just ignore the duck, i'm not sure how they would react to that - aaron
[2005-04-08 15:06:58] - Aaron: Are you saying that since PETA does it, it's ok for the government to do it? -Paul
[2005-04-08 15:03:45] - paul: four letters, peta - aaron
[2005-04-08 15:01:02] - Because either the government is (presumably) wasting money on some meaningless "protect the duck" thing that is only for show, OR they are saying that they're protecting this specific animal from a species we regularly kill and eat, for no good reason other than it chose to nest in front of a government building. -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:58:16] - I know you all probably think I'm overreacting and I agree to a certain extent, but I'm just trying to explain why I find it more stupid than silly. -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:56:48] - ultimate_people: i sent you an email. ~a
[2005-04-08 14:56:45] - I guess I would have to see exactly what the SS is doing, but I have to think that some government funds are being spent on this in some way. And why? Either to protect some random duck or to try to get some good PR for the Deptartment of Treasury and the SS. -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:54:37] - Paul: The duck probably ranks as high as the Bush family dog -dave
[2005-04-08 14:54:36] - Dammit! "willing to go JUST for the duck"... -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:52:36] - Aaron: Well, my point is exactly how far the SS is willing to JUST for the duck. Basically, is the full force of the government behind them? Or is it just all for show? Either way, I think it's silly bordering on stupid. -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:50:08] - paul: I think they'd be reprimanded for deliberately trying to annoy the SS guards if nothing else. I mean if i went up to the white house gates and started a conga line or something i'd expect to get yelled at for that too, i don't see how this would be different - aaron
[2005-04-08 14:47:44] - Dave: I guess. -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:42:13] - Paul: yes, it's incredibly silly, which is why it's so amusing -dave
[2005-04-08 14:41:28] - Paul: they shoot him in the leg -dave
[2005-04-08 14:40:20] - Tell him to stop? Ok. what if he doesn't? Are they going to arrest this guy? For what? Disturbing a duck? We eat ducks! -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:39:47] - Hypothetical situation: Somebody comes up and starts trying to chase the duck away DESPITE the almight rails put in position to thwart him. What does the SS do? -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:39:08] - intended... geez... -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:38:52] - Well, that statement sounded a lot dumber than I inteded.
-Paul[2005-04-08 14:38:36] - Aaron: I wouldn't say it's logical at all. In fact, I can't quite figure out the logic in it at all. -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:36:49] - paul: Terrorists everywhere are surely taking note of this loophole in U.S security for cute animals - aaron
[2005-04-08 14:35:43] - paul: Heheh. It's silly but all very logical at the same time. Did you see how cute the duck looks! - aaron
[2005-04-08 14:34:46] - Daaron: Just so you know, I'm not really all that upset about all this. I think it's incredibly silly, though, on very many levels. -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:34:30] - aaron: at any rate, yeah, he probably got really bored just standing there -dave
[2005-04-08 14:34:14] - aaron: hehe, I remember visiting DC once and seeing an SS person just standing on guard in front of some museum or something. We all walked up and talked to him. What was funny is he had a uniform and an SS badge, you'd think they'd be more secret ^_^ -dave
[2005-04-08 14:32:58] - paul: And "dog duck wars". Shame on you. - aaron
[2005-04-08 14:31:22] - Paul: just that the SS probably thought why not let the duck live in peace -dave
[2005-04-08 14:30:50] - Paul: random people, or maybe police, thinking that the duck was defacing the property or that it shouldn't be there. the rails give it a kind of officiality. Nothing necessarily wrong with chasing it away -dave
[2005-04-08 14:29:57] - paul: I don't know if it's money wasted, unless it forces them to hire more SS. I'm (possibly incorrectly) presuming that if they don't have a duck to monitor, the SS are probably just standing around waiting for something bad to happen - aaron
[2005-04-08 14:29:49] - mig: now, if the story talked about the Bush family setting up a small house for them and giving them food and stuff, then I'd agree with you -dave
[2005-04-08 14:28:53] - Dave: Who would try chasing the duck away and why is that such a terrible thing that rails need to be put up to prevent it from happening? -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:28:27] - mig: and I'd bet you that no one told the SS to do it, that they just did. It's kinda like if you have a family of birds make a nest in a tree in your yard. You kinda want to protect them (unless birds annoy you) -dave
[2005-04-08 14:26:51] - Paul: I think they just put up the rails so someone wouldn't try chasing the duck away or something -dave
[2005-04-08 14:25:41] - mig: the SS is there regardless of what party is in power =P -dave
[2005-04-08 14:24:15] - Vinnie: Exactly. Are we taking sides in the dog/duck wars now? We're willing to let some poor starving dog die instead of letting him have a fair shot at catching and eating the duck? -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:22:52] - But perhaps the best question is: Why is the government spending money protecting some random duck? -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:22:44] - paul: use brutal force - vinnie
[2005-04-08 14:21:12] - Or, if we want to get really silly, what if somebody wants to cook the duck for dinner? What are the laws like for animals who aren't owned by somebody? -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:18:52] - Mig: I'm mostly wondering what happens if some large dog (or basically any animal intending harm upon the duck which can't be easily restrained) tries to attack the duck. What does the SS do? -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:17:56] - Aaron: I figured they might, but I wasn't sure. -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:14:30] - paul: precisely, what is the point, here? you could just have a groyou could just get a grounskeeper or some equivalent to look after the duck if you were really concerned about it though. is there any real reason to bring the secret service into it other than drawing media attention? - mig
[2005-04-08 14:12:10] - paul: Dogs and cats terrorize ducks. - aaron
[2005-04-08 14:08:02] - dave: who does the secret service work for again? - mig
[2005-04-08 14:07:06] - And I mean predators that might exist in DC. -Paul
[2005-04-08 14:05:52] - I wonder, what eats ducks? I mean, besides humans. Are there any natural predators that the duck has to watch out for? -paul
[2005-04-08 14:04:32] - mig: that's pretty dang cynical, seeing as the only politico mentioned was John Snow, who was appointed, not elected -dave
[2005-04-08 13:55:28] - *** a calls amy
[2005-04-08 13:52:58] - amy: adrian cannot go to frisbee if adrian doesn't know when or where it is ocurring. ~a
[2005-04-08 13:40:37] - a: miguel cannot go to frisbee if miguel doesn't know where it is ocurring. - mig
[2005-04-08 13:39:46] - a: Yes! - aaron
[2005-04-08 13:39:11] - aaron: pro-mop, anti-horse? ~a
[2005-04-08 13:37:11] - aaron: hey, at least i'm open about it. - mig
[2005-04-08 13:13:47] - mig: Your pro-baseball anti-duck agenda has been clear for some time. - aaron
[2005-04-08 12:53:33] - wow, that's one of the most pathetic cases of self-serving vote-whoring i've read about in a while. - mig
[2005-04-08 12:52:57] - dave: Ha ha! "He had been briefed on the duck" is one of the funniest sentences i've heard today - aaron
[2005-04-08 12:49:44] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/08/treasury.duck.ap/index.html Secret Service protects expecting duck -dave
[2005-04-08 12:48:14] - http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/07/news/fortune500/walmart_dating/index.htm?cnn=yes Wal-Mart has dating service ^_^ -dave
[2005-04-08 11:25:56] - aaron: i play ultimate in the rain. ~a
[2005-04-08 11:01:47] - a: Why do you care? It's not like you were going to show up anyway.
-Paul[2005-04-08 10:55:37] - a: oh don't worry, it's going to rain - aaron
[2005-04-08 10:54:05] - which conflicts with ultimate
~a[2005-04-08 10:19:24] - For those who won't get around to checking their email, basketball is scheduled for this afternoon at 6:00 at the regular place. -Paul
[2005-04-08 09:48:13] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7424693/ Immigrant protests border volunteers’ actions -Paul
[2005-04-08 09:14:20] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/07/tv.cookie.lessmonster.ap/index.html cookie monster advocating more healthy eating habits - aaron
[2005-04-08 09:11:01] - a: Those instructions are actually printed on the vacuum, too - aaron
[2005-04-08 08:24:29] - http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/3524664 Jackson watches Lakers lose to Rockets -dave
[2005-04-08 08:03:34] - aaron: this is how it says to clean it: http://aporter.org/pics/camera/2005/p4080049.jpg ~a
[2005-04-08 07:47:58] - aaron: there something special about those filters? -dave
[2005-04-07 23:13:05] - a: Hey! My vacuum cleaner has a hepa filter - i'm so surprised! It looks completely clean to me. - aaron
[2005-04-07 17:09:54] - I didn't really have a point, other than it seems like we are just as quick to start throwing people in jail after an arial attack on US soil today as were were back then. -Paul
[2005-04-07 17:08:44] - Aaron: I was also thinking of the people who have been sent to Guantanamo Bay. -Paul
[2005-04-07 17:02:18] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Registration i guess this is the 9/11 counterpart, 82,581 citizens from predominately muslim countries were forced to undergo some kind of background check, and 13,153 of those were deported - aaron
[2005-04-07 16:57:57] - paul: Well, it definitely sounds like it was much more of an issue after Pearl Harbor then - aaron
[2005-04-07 16:46:29] - I guess it makes more sense to refer to Pearl Harbor and the 9/11 attacks instead of relating it to WW2. -Paul
[2005-04-07 16:45:53] - Aaron: I'm sorry, it wasn't after WW2, I meant during WW2. -Paul
[2005-04-07 16:45:30] - Aaron: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_internment_in_the_United_States -Paul
[2005-04-07 16:41:10] - paul: Was it actually an issue after WW2? Germans/japanese people just being unjustly jailed because of their race? I don't remember reading about it - aaron
[2005-04-07 16:40:35] - paul: I have no idea. I somehow got the impression it didn't happen much after 9/11, though. - aaron
[2005-04-07 16:39:46] - dave: 15 seconds - 5 minutes long actually. It definitely seems very gimmicky to me but we'll see. - aaron
[2005-04-07 16:39:32] - I wonder, were we faster to throw people in jail because of their race after WW2 or 9/11? -Paul
[2005-04-07 16:34:04] - mig: One flaw i find in the article, is he compares this language pamphlet to US getting involved in world war 2, as evidence that we're getting slower at producing things - it seems totally like apples and oranges. The 19-page language pamphlet thing was launched in reaction to military operations which resulted from the US's retaliation - aaron
[2005-04-07 15:51:29] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050407-4787.html Al Gore presents new cable channel bought by "like minded individuals". Seems kinda strange, programming segments to be 5-15 mins long -dave
[2005-04-07 15:36:05] - Mig: I'm not sure if you were just referring to Arabic or language training in general... -Paul
[2005-04-07 15:35:44] - Mig: There have been a couple of languages that at one point I was interested in trying to learn but I had trouble finding a way to get lessons in them. -Paul
[2005-04-07 15:29:03] - http://slate.msn.com/id/2116330/ usgov takes 21 months to make 19-page guide on how to teach arabic to soldiers. < 1 page/month. quite a new low for governemnt efficiency, especially given that language training is readily avialable in the private sector. - mig
[2005-04-07 13:00:30] - Lori: The only reason I thought it was amusing was because Breast Cancer is not something I normally automatically associate with the color pink. -Paul
[2005-04-07 12:56:59] - lori: paul went to lunch. so i'll respond for him. "mm-hmmm" ~a
[2005-04-07 12:48:31] - Paul: Geez. Can you say over-reaction? That said, I'm glad to hear that the actual organizations weren't being so petty. - lori
[2005-04-07 12:33:32] - http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-arkansas-pinkjerseys&prov=ap&type=lgns Seems like there is more fallout from the whole pink jersey fiasco. -Paul
[2005-04-07 12:20:06] - i love you too ~a
[2005-04-07 11:44:24] - a: I hate you. - lori
[2005-04-07 11:44:05] - lori: tell it again. ~a
[2005-04-07 11:38:22] - I had a $2 bill once when I was in elementary school but i accidently ripped it in half, so I used it to buy ice cream in the cafeteria. Yeah, I know, pathetic story but there you have it. - lori
[2005-04-07 10:26:40] - aaron: $2 bills pass the smudged ink test . . . most of the time. i have a $2 bill where the ink doesn't smudge. ~a
[2005-04-07 10:17:10] - Do $1 bills pass the smudged ink test? - aaron
[2005-04-07 10:14:11] - mig: yeah! they didn't need to arrest him. the police officer could have just asked him to come with him to the police office. ~a
[2005-04-07 10:12:22] - aaron: well, to be fair it wasn't so much the $2 bills than the fact that they did sort of have some reason to believe they were counterfeit with the smudged ink and sequential numbering ... still, was a bit heavy-handed of them to treat the guy like that. - mig
[2005-04-07 09:58:30] - Aaron: I can understand that. It's not something that comes up very often so when you encounter it, it takes an extra second or two to process it and by then you've already driven right by the bus anyway. -Paul
[2005-04-07 09:23:44] - dave: What a depressing article! $2 bills are the coolest. Who would turn those down! - aaron
[2005-04-07 09:20:53] - paul: No, I was blatant - i just passed a school bus on the left when it was stopped and kids were getting out on the right. It was my first time dealing with those school bus stop signs, that's my excuse! - aaron
[2005-04-07 07:58:20] - I didn't know you could get $2 bills from your bank, that's pretty cool, hehe -dave
[2005-04-07 07:57:33] - http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=38&threadid=1562162&enterthread=y My word, man stages minor protest against a Best Buy installation fee by paying with 57 $2 bills, he gets arrested and handcuffed and legironed to a pole -dave
[2005-04-07 07:51:41] - it's all theoretical though, nothing's been built or tested -dave
[2005-04-07 07:51:24] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050407-4785.html Sony patents brain manipulation technology. Envisioned uses are beaming sensory data (sounds, feelings, sights, etc) directly into your brain -dave
[2005-04-07 07:25:53] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32639-2005Apr6.html Gattaca, here we come. "Firms say they can identify diabetes, blood clots, liver disease or dementia in a person's future." -dave
[2005-04-07 07:23:28] - did you know that convertibles are usually heavier than their hardtop counterparts? Apparently because the bottom of the car needs to be strengthened to make up for the loss of rigidity by not having a top -dave
[2005-04-07 07:20:23] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/06/starwars.fanatics.ap/index.html Star Wars fans start lining up...but at the wrong theatre -dave
[2005-04-06 18:01:01] - Ok, then I think I'm safe in terms of not having broken the school bus stopping law.
-Paul[2005-04-06 17:55:47] - if there's a median I don't think you're supposed to stop... - vinnie
[2005-04-06 17:38:31] - if there's a median you MUST keep going (you MUST not stop) ~a
[2005-04-06 17:28:20] - Aaron: I don't know if I've done it or not. Are you supposed to stop if you're going the other way and there is a median? -Paul
[2005-04-06 17:04:15] - paul: That is, people who pass a school bus in either direction when it is picking up or letting off kids. I know i did that once without thinking (and got away with it) - aaron
[2005-04-06 17:03:26] - paul: If nothing else, it will at least help them identify school bus stop violators. - aaron
[2005-04-06 16:12:17] - paul: s/
/ /[2005-04-06 16:11:43] - trafficland.com ~a
[2005-04-06 16:11:23] - Yup, that metal detector sure made the school a lot safer.
-Paul[2005-04-06 16:11:12] - Like the issue we talked about before, when the kid who shot up his school just walked up and shot the person manning the metal detector. -Paul
[2005-04-06 16:10:36] - Dave: Oh, I'm not really complaining about the invasion of privacy. I just find it amusing when people think that something is going to make them safer when there is no good reason to think it will. -Paul
[2005-04-06 16:09:14] - Paul: You can go to news websites that will let you bring up on your computer the output of any of a ton of traffic cams. You can see traffic along virtually any major highway. -dave
[2005-04-06 16:08:15] - Paul: although I think it's a pretty horrible loss for privacy advocates, in all fairness, much of the area that the schoolbus cams will view (outside of the bus) are already viewed by other cams (traffic, etc) -dave
[2005-04-06 16:06:58] - a: QED. -Paul
[2005-04-06 16:06:04] - paul: nope. it must be working. ~a
[2005-04-06 16:05:51] - "Somebody has to step forward and do some things [any things] to protect these children and make the school situation safer for them." Again, why is nobody thinking about the children?
[2005-04-06 16:04:54] - a: You don't see any terrorists around, do you? -Paul
[2005-04-06 16:03:27] - The release cited the 1999 Columbine High School shootings, the 2001 terrorist attacks, the 2002 sniper shootings in the Washington area and the 2004 school hostage crisis in Chechnya as reasons for parents and educators to take new safety measures. But it was unclear how school bus cameras might have helped authorities in any of those cases.
~a[2005-04-06 15:53:36] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28302-2005Apr5.html
[2005-04-06 15:53:32] - Pr. George's Country testing wifi connected video cams mounted on school buses to look inside and outside -dave
[2005-04-06 15:28:35] - http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/3514498 Man brings family, friends, et. al. to the Masters (big golf tournament) but forgets his golf clubs. -dave
[2005-04-06 15:16:32] - and you can do crazy function pointer CASTING . . . which i'll leave up to you because i don't know anything about funciton pointer casting. ~a
[2005-04-06 15:15:22] - a: ahhh, gotcha ^_^ -dave
[2005-04-06 15:12:22] - dave you can also declare function pointers that take (or return) things. typedef int (*functionptr2)(); must point to a function like int moo2() and typedef void (*functionptr3)(int); must point to a function like void moo3(int) ~a
[2005-04-06 15:06:57] - a: thanks! -dave
[2005-04-06 15:06:32] - OK weather aside it sounds like friday is better for most ppl; I know vinnie has a magic tourney thing on Sat too. Time and place? And maybe next wknd we can try for Sat if it's better for Paul? -amy
[2005-04-06 15:06:06] - http://aporter.org/tmp/dave.txt ~a
[2005-04-06 15:04:36] - to use the function pointer in it's simplest form . . . then do something like void moo() {...} and then later functionptr a = moo; and a(); will call moo. ~a
[2005-04-06 15:03:07] - typedef void (*functionptr)(); will create a type called functionptr that will point to a function that takes no arguments and returns no arguments. ~a
[2005-04-06 15:02:39] - a: or I guess my question is, what does a function pointer declaration look like, and then how do you call a function from that? -dave
[2005-04-06 15:01:28] - a: ok, so how do you call a function from a function pointer? I guess I've never dealt with them before -dave
[2005-04-06 15:00:56] - do you have to switch to assembly to do something like that? -dave
[2005-04-06 15:00:49] - the hash table's value field (you know, in a hash table, you have a KEY and a VALUE field) you put a function pointer. ~a
[2005-04-06 15:00:27] - dave: function pointers. (seriously) ~a
[2005-04-06 14:59:40] - so we're trying to hash the command, but then how do you go from a hash table entry to calling an appropriate function without a string of if-else statements? -dave
[2005-04-06 14:59:02] - basically, our program has a buncha commands you can give it, but we don't want it to have to go through a big if-else tree to figure out what command you put in and run an appropriate function -dave
[2005-04-06 14:58:09] - Does anyone know how to make a function call based on a variable without doing if/else trees or switch statements in C? -dave
[2005-04-06 14:55:37] - btw, if Friday is more convenient for everybody, don't try to plan for me. Go ahead and plan it for Friday then. -Paul
[2005-04-06 14:54:49] - As for where to play, I don't have many good ideas. Maybe Adrian would know? -paul
[2005-04-06 14:53:40] - my: I might be able to make Saturday (Friday is pretty much out unless you're playing indoors and it rains outside). If you could let me know somehow when you know what time and where to meet, that would be great. I'll do my best to show up. -Paul
[2005-04-06 14:51:40] - amy: fyi friday AND saturday are supposed to be rain. ~a
[2005-04-06 14:50:13] - ~a
[2005-04-06 14:50:10] - saturday is very busy for me. that's why i prefer friday.
[2005-04-06 14:48:57] - miguel will work with either friday or saturday (in the afternoon) for ultimate - mig
[2005-04-06 14:38:38] - paul: and a: (does that work?) we could do fri or sat or both; i have friends from out of town visiting on those days who really like ultimate. but even if we don't get to this weekend, *i* really like ultimate. so we should play sometime ^_^ also where is a good place around here for ultimate? -amy
[2005-04-06 14:37:48] - Paul: yeah, i saw the other pic of the gf ^_^ -amy
[2005-04-06 14:10:54] - Same thing with homosexual sex, sodomy, oral sex, etc. -Paul
[2005-04-06 14:10:39] - It's the same reason masturbation is frowned upon. Sexual gratification without procreation. -Paul
[2005-04-06 14:09:45] - Dave: I'm pretty sure. At least that's what I remember from Catholic school. -Paul
[2005-04-06 13:52:06] - i don't know many catholics who actually take that seriously, but it is still the official church position nonetheless. - mig
[2005-04-06 13:51:24] - dave: nope, in catholicism sex for any other purposes other than procreation is indeed frowned upon. - mig
[2005-04-06 13:50:26] - Paul: You sure about the sex should not be done for enjoyment part? Granted, extra-marital sex is frowned upon, but most protestant doctrines say sex is and should be great within certain confines -dave
[2005-04-06 13:36:01] - every sperm is sacred! every sperm is great! when a sperm is wasted, god gets quite irate.
[2005-04-06 13:28:25] - Dave: The reasoning is that Catholics believe that sex should be done only for procreation and not for enjoyment. So birth control's only purpose would be to allow people to have sex without procreation, which is "wrong". -Paul
[2005-04-06 13:21:08] - a: not very convenient that's for sure -dave
[2005-04-06 13:20:00] - a: I believe it pulls up a keyboard you can navigate around on the screen? Kinda like in current console games? Not 100% sure but I think that's what it does -dave
[2005-04-06 13:19:03] - a: no, I really didn't know that. Birth control after the fact yes, stuff like condoms and "the pill" no -dave
[2005-04-06 13:10:11] - Dave: It would be awesome if Michael Bay directed The Transformers movie. -Paul
[2005-04-06 13:09:49] - Amy: Did you move your mouse over the girlfriend's picture on that page? -Paul
[2005-04-06 13:08:09] - Amy: I could do ultimate but if it's Friday I'm probably either at work, playing basketball, or not going to do something outside because it's raining. -Paul
[2005-04-06 13:05:36] - how do you do "online chat" without a keyboard? ~a
[2005-04-06 13:02:22] - dave: please tell me you're being sarcastic. ~a
[2005-04-06 12:57:24] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/04/05/pope.contraception.reut/index.html Catholicism bans contraception? I didn't know that -dave
[2005-04-06 12:55:47] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/diet.fitness/04/06/overweight.california.ap/index.html California loses 21.7 billion to obesity in medical bills, injuries, and lost productivity. Apparently half of the people there are overweight -dave
[2005-04-06 12:54:34] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/06/film.transformers.reut/index.html Director of "Bad Boys" "Pearl Harbor" "Armageddon" and "The Rock" slated to direct Transformers movie -dave
[2005-04-06 12:52:53] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.games/04/05/psp.hackers.reut/index.html Hackers add Web and Chat to PSP -dave
[2005-04-06 12:50:20] - There's a title of an article on CNN.com that is "New Flexibility for No Child Left Behind." I found this quite amusing. Now we can leave SOME children behind? -dave
[2005-04-06 12:25:22] - "Funny stories on this website. I could spend hours reading this stuff... -paul" ~a
[2005-04-06 12:25:02] - amy: actually, paul already posted that link . . . but it was almost two years ago so i don't think anybody is complaining
~a[2005-04-06 12:23:31] - amy: i would love to play ULTIMATE! . . . and i would prefer friday. ~a
[2005-04-06 12:05:26] - Also, Aaron requested that I post this, about a million weeks ago: http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/ -amy
[2005-04-06 12:04:09] - ULTIMATE FRISBEE. Anybody up for it on Fri or Sat? -amy
[2005-04-06 11:08:08] - mig: Sorry, I've had those days before. They're no fun. My suggestion is to read up on something interesting on the internet. -Paul
[2005-04-06 11:03:15] - everybody is busy today but me
- mig[2005-04-06 00:40:00] - pierce: +1 informative ~a
[2005-04-05 18:18:14] - Pierce: Very informative, thank you. -Paul
[2005-04-05 18:11:07] - aba: eep, I also wish you a belated happy birthday. Sad part is (and you'll have to take my word for it on this), I remembered on the second but I thought "no, I won't wish her an early happy birthday, I'll remember tomorrow and it will be much more apt." - pierce
[2005-04-05 18:05:33] - Paul: watch that knee, you jerk. http://www.pcaawareness.net/pins_ribbons.html - pierce
[2005-04-05 17:51:32] - vinnie: yes. i am now 23. :o - aba
[2005-04-05 16:51:39] - Vinnie: Are there any positive effeminate connotations?
-Paul[2005-04-05 16:45:07] - paul: yes me too. and all the negative effeminate connotations associated with it
- vinnie[2005-04-05 16:42:46] - Vinnie: Well, I for one refuse to be brainwashed and will continue to associate pink with women before I associate it with breast cancer.
-Paul[2005-04-05 16:39:30] - which is unfortunate - vinnie
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