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[2005-06-02 13:17:05] - a: I struggle to make my resume a whole page. No idea how many words it is. -Paul

[2005-06-02 13:13:13] - a: I was always taught that it should never be more than 1 unless you are specifially asked by the company to provide more information. - lori

[2005-06-02 13:08:26] - i just read a resume that is SIX pages long and solid text (1700 words).  by contrast, most resumes are one or two pages (*maybe* 3 if you're senior senior).  my resume is one page and 300 words.  ~a

[2005-06-02 12:28:15] - Aaron: Yeah, I'm not sure the exact reason why they limited it to the past two centuries. Maybe because there are a lot of old things that would be influential only because they are so old? -Paul

[2005-06-02 12:05:45] - did we ever have a msgboard discussion about the supreme court "looking to international law" controversy? - pierce

[2005-06-02 12:05:15] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/06/01/internet.shopping.ap/index.html Study: Shoppers naive about retail prices online. - aaron

[2005-06-02 11:07:15] - a: Blocked by pragmatics inc. :-p - aaron

[2005-06-02 11:01:35] - $60/year is still pretty low.  ~a

[2005-06-02 10:54:48] - lori: hooray ^_^ -amy

[2005-06-02 10:52:58] - for people who watch The Shield: http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/the_shield_s4/weblog_2.html I can't tell if he's doing a character study or whether they cast someone as Julien who basically wouldn't even have to act.  Weird blog entry. - pierce

[2005-06-02 10:31:58] - a: you would think if the goal was to "help families screen out porn" they wouldn't include the name price-hike.  Then again, maybe you would... - lori

[2005-06-02 10:29:35] - ddr_people - I'm planning on it...finally!  - lori

[2005-06-02 10:11:53] - ddr_people: sfm? 5.45? aval?

[2005-06-02 09:22:57] - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050602/ap_on_hi_te/internet_pornography .xxx was finally approved.  ~a

[2005-06-02 09:05:47] - aaron:  49,48?  ~a

[2005-06-02 08:49:47] - what is the ascii value for the number 10 - aaron

[2005-06-02 08:28:49] - bikes go faster than cars  ~a

[2005-06-02 08:04:39] - paul: Ohhhh wait - 19th and 20th centuries. That makes a little more sense. I guess that raises the questions of what books would make their list, that were not written in those two centuries? It seems like 99% of all literature ever was released in the last two centuries (and probably close to 99.9% of known literature....) - aaron

[2005-06-01 23:15:32] - paul: charles darwin's descent of man? hahahaha. Surprised the kur'an didn't make the list :-p - Aaron

[2005-06-01 18:14:06] - a: Ok. I think it's safe to say that she truly believes that particular statement then. :-) -Paul

[2005-06-01 18:10:37] - well i was just bringing up the "out of context" discussion, not the "labeled as controversial" discussion.  ~a

[2005-06-01 18:01:01] - a: Possibly, although I only remember saying that one quote was slightly taken out of context. Either way, I don't think I ever said she wasn't controversial, just that I couldn't see how she got labeled controversial when other people didn't. -Paul

[2005-06-01 17:34:52] - no, but you did say that i was taking her quotes (quotes i might add, that many people would consider controversail) out of context.  ~a

[2005-06-01 17:09:00] - a: Ah, ok. Well, I never said that she didn't have views that you would consider controversial. -Paul

[2005-06-01 17:01:43] - i know you weren't.  neither was i.  i'm just laughing because it's impossible to take that quote out of context.  it has "[here's my old quote].  it's true."  basically saying that it wasn't taken out of context.  ~a

[2005-06-01 16:58:09] - a: ? I assume that's directed at me but I'm not the one that was taking things out of context... -Paul

[2005-06-01 16:48:21] - "I am often asked if I still think we should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity. The answer is: Now more than ever"  haha.  take that out of context, will you?  ~a

[2005-06-01 16:35:37] - LOL.  the kinsey report.  :-P  ~a

[2005-06-01 16:24:37] - http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7591 Ten Most Harmful Books of the 19th and 20th Centuries. Based on the selections (among other things), I think this is a conservative website but I think it's an interesting read nonetheless. If nothing else, liberals can look to it as a list of must-read books. :-P -Paul

[2005-06-01 13:05:30] - Where do you see chocolate mouse on that menu? It's chocolate mousse, fool. - charles

[2005-06-01 13:03:54] - Aaron: I don't know about homework, but I think kids are in school longer in Japan than in the US. -Paul

[2005-06-01 13:02:15] - I got it backwards - school days are generally longer in countries (like Japan) that don't assign homework, right? - aaron

[2005-06-01 13:01:54] - mig: That's not entirely fair - isn't the school day generally longer in countries (like the US) that assign homework, as compared to countries (like Japan) that don't? Obviously if your children are in school for 18 hours a day you can't assign much homework... that might be partially responsible for a lack of a correlation - aaron

[2005-06-01 11:17:11] - http://www.euroresidentes.com/Blogs/2005/05/spanish-scientists-use-maths-to-cure.htm math used to cure cancer?  ~a

[2005-06-01 11:14:07] - http://clintcam.com/barkley/ The wisdom of Sir Charles Barkley. -Paul

[2005-06-01 10:11:17] - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1414086.html?menu= mugged three times in an hour -amy

[2005-06-01 09:12:06] - http://physorg.com/news4333.html down with homework! - mig

[2005-05-31 16:44:24] - mig: Mayhaps. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Nets struggle next year and/or see the Raptors do well. -Paul

[2005-05-31 16:40:19] - the nets seem like they're going to at least be a playoff team.    can't really say the same about the raptors. - mig

[2005-05-31 16:35:14] - mig: It's tough to say. The Raptors have the pieces in place to be a decent team next year but they seem to still be in too muhc turmoil. Kinda like the Blazers. -Paul

[2005-05-31 16:26:17] - paul:  i don't think vince carter prediction will pan out either.  in fact, the opposite might be happen (nets getting better while raptors get worse), but i guess we'll see next season. -mig

[2005-05-31 16:11:35] - Aaron: He was VERY right about Drew Bledsoe though. -Paul

[2005-05-31 16:11:13] - Aaron: No, it didn't, although I can definitely see why he predicted it. I probably would've agreed had I read the article back then. -Paul

[2005-05-31 16:08:39] - paul: That vick prediction didn't really pan out eh? - aaron

[2005-05-31 15:57:28] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/010509a The Ewing Theory (for sports fans). -Paul

[2005-05-31 10:17:01] - i really like the uncyclopedia logo .D

[2005-05-31 09:41:36] - no, we're outta bear claws

[2005-05-31 09:41:33] - wait a minute, i'll go check.

[2005-05-30 23:20:52] - GRRRAWR

[2005-05-27 13:29:19] - http://uncyclopedia.org/uncyclopedia/index.php?title=Zork - aaron

[2005-05-27 13:25:54] - no maam.  it didn't let me know anything.  i'll go check it.  ~a

[2005-05-27 13:21:33] - a: did you get the voicemail? - lori

[2005-05-27 13:15:49] - and eat me  ~a

[2005-05-27 13:15:27] - yay.  read me  ~a

[2005-05-27 12:51:59] - a: i am free for whatever tonight. - mig

[2005-05-27 12:25:13] - from tjpeople comm: "pickup frisbee/ultimate/disc/thing tomorrow afternoon; all welcome; "isolated t-storms" be damned; if rain, cleats might help; friday 5pm practice field (unless dislodged to weyanoke)..." - aba

[2005-05-27 11:51:36] - mig: yeah, I agree. I just thing people who do things like that are really annoying though -dave

[2005-05-27 11:11:52] - dave:  to be fair, not all U guys become headaches.  Take ray lewis and ed reed, for example. - mig

[2005-05-27 10:32:35] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/22/AR2005052200928.html spot on -dave

[2005-05-27 08:40:46] - oh, it says that in the article.  ~a

[2005-05-27 08:36:48] - dave:  heh.  linux has had 64 bit support for like a decade.  ~a

[2005-05-27 08:35:03] - http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=xpx64&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1 Windows XP for 64-bit processors -dave

[2005-05-27 08:04:11] - is anyone doing anything fun tonight?  i'm free for whatever.  ~a

[2005-05-27 07:59:11] - paul:  as opposed to what?  isn't 23 correct?  ~a

[2005-05-27 02:44:08] - pierce: I thought it said fall 2006? It's going to be an excruciating wait that's for sure. And yeah tweety was pretty cool. What evolutionary benefit would that many mouths offer?! - aaron

[2005-05-27 00:08:43] - aaron: I loved tweety bird. :) - pierce

[2005-05-27 00:07:44] - aaron: and it's not even due for release until 2007!  it's already looking that f'n good, and it still has over a year and a half until release.  which is fortunate, because I could easily see that as dethroning world of warcraft as my primary timesink, so that gives me another year and a half of warcraft :) - pierce

[2005-05-26 22:45:29] - pierce: Will Wright just blew my mind! I have to buy this game. - aaron

[2005-05-26 17:22:39] - a: http://aporter.org/me/ Only 23 years old? -Paul

[2005-05-26 16:57:06] - on the door, baby? -amy

[2005-05-26 16:47:28] - BANG BANG BANG BANG  ~a

[2005-05-26 16:47:21] - BANG  ~a

[2005-05-26 16:38:12] - pierce: ah, the other definition of the exclamation point .) -amy

[2005-05-26 16:04:11] - http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7978360/?GT1=6542 A 124-pound blue catfish caught by an Illinois man died on its way to an outfitter store here, where it was to be displayed in an aquarium. -Paul

[2005-05-26 15:56:07] - in other words, no reason.  I was just reading my own handwriting and I wondered who else did that. - pierce

[2005-05-26 15:51:41] - amy: ! - pierce

[2005-05-26 15:11:20] - pierce: ? -amy

[2005-05-26 15:09:49] - amy:  my poll was because of pierce's poll.  ask him :)  ~a

[2005-05-26 15:06:11] - pierce: oh and i also went through a phase where the a had deformed-D syndrome, but that was a long while ago -amy

[2005-05-26 15:03:18] - a: since you asked a million years ago, my T's have tails. I draw the horizontol part first, left to right, then the vertical part, up to down, then the tail goes into the next letter (or is just a tail if there is no next letter). why the poll? .) -amy

[2005-05-26 14:17:38] - in windows anyways.  ~a

[2005-05-26 14:17:29] - dave:  not usually.  usually they're binaries that are instantiated from registry keys.  ~a

[2005-05-26 13:58:08] - pierce: or in cooperation with other people. that might even be more interesting - vinnie

[2005-05-26 13:57:21] - http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05140/507736.stm court case deciding on whether sperm donors are able to held liable for child support.  brilliant! - mig

[2005-05-26 13:51:31] - aaron: well in a way, it seems like this will be massively multiplayer, albeit asynchronously so.  Your world/galaxy can be automatically populated by creatures that other people have created on their own copy of the game.  And who knows, they might make a synchronous multiplayer mode as well, against other people in real time. - pierce

[2005-05-26 13:50:27] - a: yeah, you're right, they're more than just cookies. But a lot of times they're just registry keys, yes? -dave

[2005-05-26 13:37:25] - pierce: I had the same idea, although I was envisioning it as massively multiplayer as well. "hey, don't zone a mall in that residential part of town, i have ants there!" - aaron

[2005-05-26 13:36:24] - pierce: there's always http://www.bugmenot.com/ - aaron

[2005-05-26 13:32:44] - dave:  also spyware does "spread" (in a different manner) to other parts of your system.  like generally it writes itself into the registry and plays around with protected dlls how they please.  in linux, your potential spyware application doesn't have the authorization to muck around with system stuff.  ~a

[2005-05-26 13:31:02] - if everything is as dynamic as he made it seem with the demo, my mind is completely blown as to how they programmed something of this complexity and magnitude. - pierce

[2005-05-26 13:30:13] - it seems like I successfully transmitted that idea to Will Wright telepathically, because that's essentially what Spore is... an almost completely dynamic universe, defined on different scopes (from petri-dish level to galactic). - pierce

[2005-05-26 13:28:47] - in the 90s, when Maxis was releasing simthis and simthat every few months, I always thought it would be cool if they merged them.  So you control the individual animals like simant, the species like simlife, the sentient creatures like the sims, the development of their civilization like simcity, their environment like simearth, etc. - pierce

[2005-05-26 13:26:25] - dave:  yes yes, "spread" was the wrong word.  spyware, however, DOES reinstantiate itself on a regular basis like when you restart your computer it starts itself up again (generally).  ~a

[2005-05-26 13:25:53] - btw, you can register with any information, it doesn't do any checking or validation email or anything. - pierce

[2005-05-26 13:25:27] - http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=5570 absolutely STUNNING presentation of Will Wright's upcoming game, Spore. - pierce

[2005-05-26 13:25:18] - dave:  well spyware is more than just a cookie.  a cookie is just a file that your browser (at your request) carries around and sends to authorized parties.  spyware is software whereas a cookie is unexecutable data.  ~a

[2005-05-26 11:55:28] - a: to my knowledge, spyware doesn't "spread" or replicate itself like a virus etc -dave

[2005-05-26 11:53:38] - a: like to get a history of what websites you've visited -dave

[2005-05-26 11:53:20] - a: you may be right, but my perception of spyware was that it's not really a malicious running process. It's just like a cookie or a registry key that stores info that a website picks back up again when you visit it -dave

[2005-05-26 11:11:54] - i for instance never let closed source software run on my linux box without severely restricting its rights.  like if it's not supposed to access network resources, then it can't.  and there's no way a piece of spyware could reinstantiate itself without actually knowing about a linux security hole.  ~a

[2005-05-26 11:10:07] - dave:  are you sure?  with efficient user management, spyware has a hard time spreading.  ~a

[2005-05-26 10:32:29] - a: I would imagine you'd have the same spyware problems on a mac -dave

[2005-05-26 10:32:01] - aaron:  if the home users aren't using windows, then they're using os x (which isn't intel).  ~a

[2005-05-26 10:29:03] - a: That's (obviously) not really an intel problem, although he is kind of beating up on windows (they're hitched, right?) - aaron

[2005-05-26 10:20:05] - "I am coming to the belief that there is a much easier, more secure way to use computers. Since I have spent several years focusing my security work on Ma, Pa & The Corporate Clueless, I have also come to the conclusion that if I and my kind (reasonably fluent) are having such problems, what about the other 98% of humanity who merely want a computer for e-mail and multi-media (Porn)."  so true.  ~a

[2005-05-26 10:13:10] - "paul otellini, the new ceo of intel, confesses that not only does he spend an hour a week removing spyware from his daughter's [windows intel] pc, but that if users want a quick security fix, they should probably buy something other than a pc."  wtf, the intel ceo is saying not to buy intel?  ~a

[2005-05-25 17:38:15] - I don't think I ever use a tail. -Paul

[2005-05-25 17:32:12] - if it's going into a connected letter (like in "th"), I do "t"s as up-to-down, up-and-to-the-left lightly (so it doesn't really mark), then right-and-transition into the next char.  If it's a disconnected letter (like "poptart") or the last letter, I do a tail. - pierce

[2005-05-25 17:26:51] - no.  how about "t"s?  do you make a simple cross, or do you use a tail?  ~a

[2005-05-25 17:00:59] - pierce: No, but i went through a phase. I never did the gs that look like 8s though. - aaron

[2005-05-25 16:49:14] - No. -Paul

[2005-05-25 16:37:40] - poll: do you handwrite lowercase "a"s with the tail thingy on top that makes them look like hunchbacked lowercase "d"s? - pierce

[2005-05-25 15:59:56] - I wish there was a font just like Georgia, except numbers were all the same height and had the same baseline.  It's a perfect font for screen reading except for that, IMO. - pierce

[2005-05-25 15:49:32] - pierce:  nope.  php tried to get away from perl's quick and dirty syntax.  ~a

[2005-05-25 15:24:23] - yeah typically simply using "student" or "unknown" would have sufficed. - mig

[2005-05-25 15:03:17] - err, minus that last semicolon, which would make the eqivalent statement incorrect in java. - pierce

[2005-05-25 15:01:24] - a: JSP has a <%= %> tag for just outputting a scripting variable's contents to the document... does PHP have an equivalent?  It seems <?echo $msg->msglimit;?> is slightly less pretty than <?=$msg->msglimit;?>, especially if you're doing a lot of those sorts of things. - pierce

[2005-05-25 14:46:49] - vinnie: wow, assuming they're telling the truth and it was just meant as a placeholder (not that that entirely excuses it), how embarrassing! - pierce

[2005-05-25 14:46:10] - Vinnie: That's a pretty unfortunate mistake. I wonder if anybody is going to get fired over that. -Paul

[2005-05-25 14:39:38] - http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/0523yearbook-mistake23-ON.html black girl listed as... "black girl" in yearbook - vinnie

[2005-05-25 14:22:23] - a: I could've known that if I'd paid more attention. - pierce

[2005-05-25 14:19:17] - you didn't know that the text box was inside of a table that wasn't width="100%"  ~a

[2005-05-25 14:18:58] - pierce:  i fixed it.  ~a

[2005-05-25 14:14:59] - and fyi, it's maxlength="<?echo $msg->msglimit;?>"  ~a

[2005-05-25 14:14:13] - i think it takes 75% OF 65.  ~a

[2005-05-25 14:13:40] - pierce:  ~a

[2005-05-25 14:10:29] - a: <input name="post" value="" size="65" style="width: 75%" maxlength="350" /> - pierce

[2005-05-25 14:09:08] - The donuts thing sounds like me though. :) - pierce

[2005-05-25 14:08:10] - I said "darnit"?!  That seems uncharacteristic. - pierce

[2005-05-25 14:07:18] - pierce:  like for instance you probably don't remember the pre-message-board:  "Darnit, Adrian!  Why don't html tags work?      Oh, and bring some donuts to techlab, too."  ~a

[2005-05-25 14:06:34] - _ - mitch

[2005-05-25 14:06:29] - dammit, the quotes from mitch hedberg made me not the average-post-length leader anymore. :( - pierce

[2005-05-25 14:06:00] - Pierce: I'm not sure what point I was trying to prove other than that I thought it was dangerous to give government the power to track people it considers diseased. -Paul

[2005-05-25 14:05:01] - a: bully for you, then. - pierce

[2005-05-25 14:03:23] - pierce:  actually, the history of the internals of the message board are quite interesting . . . to me . . . and nobody else.  ~a

[2005-05-25 14:01:50] - Paul: correct. I don't think you proved your point the right way, but in this case we have some level of agreement on the conclusion. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:57:24] - Pierce: "my point being that you didn't really show that it's a bad idea in this case other than by the general premise that given gov't power is a bad thing." ?? -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:56:01] - Paul: no, I think this is (potentially) an example of it being a bad idea.  This guy, who hadn't moved and wasn't necessarily doing anything wrong, has now essentially been arrested for wanting to see Star Wars reaaaallly bad. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:54:17] - Pierce: You're saying that this ISN'T an example of it being a bad idea? :-P -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:51:34] - Paul: the star wars guy. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:50:52] - Pierce: "in this case" And which case is that? -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:50:37] - which is why the times from back then have dates like:  5:35:00p  and  10:02:00a  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:50:15] - Pierce: Well, I think it's a bad idea in my opinion. I don't think it's an absolute bad idea. -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:49:48] - paul: my point being that you didn't really show that it's a bad idea in this case other than by the general premise that given gov't power is a bad thing.  Which I don't necessarily disagree with on this principle, in this case... hence my original position that these were extenuating circumstances. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:49:30] - 8800k . . . although back in 2001, the year and second weren't stored in the date field.  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:48:29] - a: what is it now? - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:48:09] - Paul: okay, let me rephrase: dangerous, sure.  a bad idea? not necessarily. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:47:54] - heh.  the mb was 506k back in 2001.  how times have changed.  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:47:51] - Pierce: I guess I understand, but it seems to be a different issue entirely. Are we still talking about businesses vs government in terms of preventing contamination or are we talking about defining diseases now? -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:47:20] - a: no need, I was just curious. :) - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:46:57] - with detailed statistical analysis, i can judge about when such changes occurred.  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:46:50] - Pierce: Hence why I didn't say it was unreasonable for the government to track people with diseases. Just that I didn't think it was a good idea. -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:46:36] - paul: ??? ...I said how it relates.  I wasn't trying to come to a conclusion, if that's what you're confused about.  I was just exploring the issue. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:45:58] - no because i don't have a listing of what the max post length was at a given time.  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:45:14] - a: do you have a way of correlating the length of a comment with what the maximum comment length was at the time? - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:44:40] - Pierce: Ok, I understand what you're saying, but I have no idea how it relates to your point. :-P -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:44:12] - pierce:  i have :-/  i wish it didn't do that since i use escape to mean stop.  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:44:06] - Paul: dangerous, sure.  unreasonable? not necessarily. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:43:46] - "we should try to equalize the average amount men are paid as the average amount women are paid  ~a"  (feburary 2001)  "how silly i was ~a"  (may 2005)  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:43:31] - hmm, never noticed this... in firefox, if you press escape twice in a text field (not a textarea) it erases the contents. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:42:28] - Pierce: Sure, it's a case by case basis, all I'm saying is that it's dangerous to give the government that kind of power because you never know how the next administration is going to use it and chances are that the power will eventually be abused. -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:41:48] - pierce:  $charlimit=150;  in 2001.  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:41:10] - Paul: aha, you've caught the catch of my metaphor, which was what I was trying to get at.  If you look at pedophilia as a disease, which many people (on both sides of the pedophiliac-rights debate) claim, then you may end up with one result.  If you don't, you may end up with another. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:39:27] - and what's reasonable for one case may be unreasonable for the other. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:39:17] - pierce:  cut -f1 -d\; 0000.txt |egrep '^.{350}$' |grep -c pierce 21  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:39:11] - Paul: is there no room for case-by-case bases?  Infection of a viral or bacterial disease is very different from social engineering, both in the reality of the "spread" of the undesired thing, and in the effects of that spread. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:38:47] - pierce:  yes.  tons of times.  it was like 100 something in the beginning.  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:37:14] - Pierce: And there is one for pedophiles? -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:36:52] - Pierce: That gays have a disease which threatens the community. -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:36:51] - if you're saying that the argument could be made that "gay people have a disease that could affect the health/safety of the the community at large", then that's a very distinctly different statement in an obvious way: there is no biological basis for an assumption that gay people endanger others' safeties. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:36:29] - Pierce: It's entirely possible that the most effective way of containing something would be to have an all powerful government track everybody, but that doesn't mean that any steps short of that mean you don't care about containing diseases at all. -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:35:38] - paul:  especially when some people have the mindset of gays = pedophile. - mig

[2005-05-25 13:34:59] - Paul: what same thing could be said of gays? - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:34:33] - Pierce: The same could be said of gays too. Giving the government power is a dangerous thing... -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:33:05] - a: also, how many of those have been mine? :) - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:32:41] - only 77? in the whole history of the message board?  seems like it would be more.  did you increase the character limit in the recent past? - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:31:35] - Paul: name such a step which would be more effective than tracking contagious individuals, and notifying the people with whom they come in contact? - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:30:41] - A very similar argument can be made about pedophilia: this person has a disease which could affect the health/safety of the community at large, therefore by the same reasoning most people would consider it reasonable to track that person. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:29:52] - anyway, the reason I brought it up was that I think most people would say the government is justified in tracking people who have a contagious disease, because such a person could potentially affect the health of the community at large. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:28:40] - Pierce: You CAN take steps to control contagion without having information about everybody. -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:28:24] - pierce:  cut -f1 -d\; 0000.txt |egrep -c '^.{350}$'  77  ~a

[2005-05-25 13:28:03] - Pierce: I don't see how saying that not all apartment complexes would need to collect everybody's medical data can be interpretted as meaning that it's abandoning the goal of predicting and controlling contagion... -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:25:21] - a: how many posts have been exactly 350 characters in length? - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:24:02] - Paul: okay, if you're saying that the collection of medical data by an apartment complex would be (for all practical purposes) optional, then you already abandoned the goal of predicting and controlling contagion, so I'm going to go ahead and interpret your answer to my original question as an absolute "no" rather than a conditional "no". - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:20:09] - Pierce: I would also say that the government is more likely to use the information for evil, but I know you wouldn't agree so you can just ignore this message. -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:19:35] - Pierce: Because with the government it would be required, whereas it might not be for an apartment complex and the government is also much larger and more powerful than an apartment complex. -Paul

[2005-05-25 13:18:49] - In other words, to paraphrase: I don't see how having a single government know your medical information is any worse than having any apartment complexes or employers know it. - pierce

[2005-05-25 13:17:53] - Paul: well the argument was that an apartment complex would be justified in making you get a physical in order to protect its residents from contagious diseases.  So "a single apartment complex" isn't the whole story, because the same argument could be made for employers, which could apply to everyone. - pierce

[2005-05-25 12:50:51] - Pierce: Not to mention that I don't see how having an entire government know your medical information is any better than a single apartment complex knowing it. -Paul

[2005-05-25 12:19:53] - Pierce: I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that the business is going to collect your medical information without your knowledge? -paul

[2005-05-25 12:09:40] - Not to mention that you're much more likely to be socially involved with someone at your apartment complex than with an employee of the CDC, so their having knowledge of that information would seem more likely to come up. - pierce

[2005-05-25 12:07:46] - Paul: I understand that much, but your "vote with your dollars" approach doesn't seem to work as well with medical information.  In theory, you could switch apartments if your complex abused knowledge of your medical information, but they'd still have your information. - pierce

[2005-05-25 12:01:47] - Pierce: And I think that's the big difference between us. You trust government more than businesses and I trust businesses more than the government. -paul

[2005-05-25 12:00:52] - Seriously, the house of representatives is starting to seem like local car commercials.  They don't care if they appear intelligent or charismatic, but only how loud they are (figuratively speaking). - pierce

[2005-05-25 11:59:11] - "Asked by a reporter about the name-change campaign, he replied: 'HEY LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I WANT ATTENTION!'" - pierce

[2005-05-25 11:56:11] - http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1491567,00.html?gusrc=rss republican congressman who led the "freedom fries" name change now says iraq war not justified. - mig

[2005-05-25 11:55:30] - I'm not sure I understand why it's preferable for your apartment complex to have your personal medical information, rather than for the government to have it.  I honestly think the former is far more likely to abuse its access to that information. - pierce

[2005-05-25 11:50:02] - mig: There's a number of reasons to worry about it. Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I want the government to know everything about me. -Paul

[2005-05-25 11:45:05] - paul:  also there is distrust on whether the information it has is even correct. - mig

[2005-05-25 11:42:41] - pierce: that could easily be solved by the apartment owner requiring a medical checkup or something like that for their tenets.  government need not get involved. - mig

[2005-05-25 11:39:31] - Pierce: This may surprise you, but I've got a general distrust of the government and I generally tend to think that the less information it has about it's own populace, the better. -Paul

[2005-05-25 11:38:17] - Pierce: Well, it might be a reasonable thing to do, but I don't think it's something that I would want to government to be tracking. -Paul

[2005-05-25 11:27:14] - Paul: just out of curiosity, would you consider it reasonable for the government to keep track of someone infected with TB, and/or notify neighbors of their condition if they were to move into a new apartment building? - pierce

[2005-05-25 11:17:41] - mig: Of course they do. Don't you know that the government has the right to know where all of us are at any given time? -Paul

[2005-05-25 11:14:37] - paul:  i would of course, question whether they had an entitlement to know that information anyway. - mig

[2005-05-25 11:08:32] - Pierce: Possibly they were concerned that he was spending two weeks in such close proximity to so many people who didn't know that he was a convicted sex offender. -Paul

[2005-05-25 11:01:04] - Especially since they arrested him two hours before it would have become a nonissue anyway. - pierce

[2005-05-25 11:00:37] - Paul: yeah, like if he'd stayed at his girlfriend's place right across from an elementary school for two weeks, people would probably be bothered.  Still, this is a pretty obvious special case. - pierce

[2005-05-25 10:56:13] - Pierce: I guess the duration of time he spent there mattered more than what kind of place he was "living" in. -Paul

[2005-05-25 10:54:51] - Lori: Thank you. :-P -Paul

[2005-05-25 10:51:01] - Paul: that is pretty ridiculous, it really seems like they were looking for a reason to go after this guy.  A pitched tent in a line does not resemble a "permanent residence" in any reasonable way. On the other hand, maybe it's in the public interest to take people who would wait in line for two weeks for a movie off the streets. :) - pierce

[2005-05-25 10:46:57] - Paul: you always seem to have the oddest collection of links - lori

[2005-05-25 10:46:25] - I mentioned it a while back... Lisa and I were going to go to The Ritz-Carlton Resort in Rose Hall, Jamaica for seven nights in late June. - pierce

[2005-05-25 10:28:13] - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1595494,00.html Husband makes cheating wife pay for time spent raising lover's child. -Paul

[2005-05-25 10:26:38] - http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/46786.htm  A New Jersey woman is trying to make legal history as she divorces her hubby of 17 years — by suing the impoverished man's parents for alimony. -Paul

[2005-05-25 10:25:02] - http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/05/20/news/californian/23_02_225_19_05.txt Convicted sex offender arrested for 'living' in 'Star Wars' line -Paul

[2005-05-25 09:50:07] - pierce: Yeah what trip? - aaron

[2005-05-25 08:39:16] - pierce: Personally I thought it was one of the best yet. It had like six or seven jokes I thought were very funny, most e-mails have one or sometimes zero - aaron

[2005-05-25 07:36:24] - pierce:  what trip?  ~a

[2005-05-25 00:21:03] - for fucking out fuck! the hotel we were going to stay at has decided that its repairs, which were going to go until May 15 and then until June 1, has now decided to close until July 1!  Our trip is screwed! - pierce

[2005-05-25 00:17:51] - aaron: I love when homestar dives down to eat the change off the floor.  overall, a pretty good email but the quality of the emails in general has gone down IMO.  Or maybe the novelty's worn off. - pierce

[2005-05-24 17:31:05] - aaron: rockin - aba

[2005-05-24 17:21:20] - aba: fixed - aaron

[2005-05-24 16:43:26] - why are the current events listed with the year 2004?  -  aba

[2005-05-24 15:34:44] - pierce: Did you see the H*R where homestar poses as the cheat? opinions? - aaron

[2005-05-24 15:17:46] - a: Not really that I can see. It sounds like the only thing he said is that the army is full of some not-so-great people. Not sure there is anything particularly treasonous about that. -Paul

[2005-05-24 15:16:31] - no.  those are the only two flags.  sysop (can delete,undelete,protect,unprotect,block,unblock) and bureaucrat (grant and revoke rights from users).  ~a

[2005-05-24 15:13:20] - a:  can i have a title other than bueraucrat? - mig

[2005-05-24 15:11:56] - everybody:  just for fun, i made everybody into sysops/bureaucrats  ~a

[2005-05-24 15:06:43] - paul:  ot:  do you think maher did anything that was borderline treason?  ~a

[2005-05-24 15:03:07] - Pierce: I guess I just disagree. If something is "borderline treasonous", then it seems like you're saying that it's not serious enough to be prosecuted as actual treason, but is still pretty serious. Therefore I think saying that you want him prosecuted might be a bit of an overreaction. -Paul

[2005-05-24 14:42:10] - Paul: treason is a strong word to throw around, even with "borderline" as a modifier, if nothing even illegal has happened.  The "I don't want him prosecuted, just off the air" quote tells me that he's just blustering to get attention, rather than actually thinking Maher is clearly guilty of something treasonous. - pierce

[2005-05-24 12:54:57] - Pierce: Not that I agree with what he said, but it actually sounds like a reasonable response if you consider what he said to only be borderline treasonous. Would you be happier if he said that he wanted Maher executed? -Paul

[2005-05-24 12:54:05] - Pierce: I'm not sure how that's not standing by his convictions. He said it was borderline treasonous, not blatantly treasonous. -Paul

[2005-05-24 12:36:20] - did anybody see the daily show with the town hall footage and tony blair?  in some countries, people are allowed to speak ill of their leaders.  ~a

[2005-05-24 12:32:07] - stupid people:  not everybody needs to love their government or their country.  if we don't like it, we don't have to get out.  if we don't like it, it's our responsability to talk about it.  ~a

[2005-05-24 12:30:13] - well in general, the us populace generally elects idiot politicians.  some places elect more idiotic ones than others. - mig

[2005-05-24 12:29:11] - But what do you expect... it's a house representive from alabama.  Everybody knows that generally, alabama elects idiot politicians. :) - pierce

[2005-05-24 12:28:18] - or in this case accusations.  ~a

[2005-05-24 12:27:22] - I love how he simultaneously claims that it's "borderline treasonous" AND that "he doesn't want him prosecuted".  Way to stand by your convictions. - pierce

[2005-05-24 12:27:05] - padme, i mean bill maher, is sounding like a seperatist.  ~a

[2005-05-24 12:25:00] - a:  silly adrian, of course criticizing usgov is treason. - mig

[2005-05-24 12:23:35] - treasonous?  how is that treasonous?!  ~a

[2005-05-24 12:21:08] - http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=84467 Controversial talk show host, Bill Maher. -Paul

[2005-05-24 12:18:26] - Pierce: I think that's the point I'm trying to make. :-) -Paul

[2005-05-24 12:17:55] - a: What do you mean? There are biological differences between men and women and I'm not sure what birth has to do with them. -Paul

[2005-05-24 12:13:00] - a: oops, I thought your comment to paul was directed towards me.  my mistake. - pierce

[2005-05-24 12:12:30] - However, when we are trying to determine whether women are equally competitive in a modern environment, we have to factor in the possibility that those biological factors may not apply anymore, so our generalization may no longer be valid. - pierce

[2005-05-24 12:12:05] - Paul: that line is much less clear, you could make a reasonable argument (using that expression a lot today) that that stereotype does have a biological basis. - pierce

[2005-05-24 12:11:23] - paul:  what biological differences (other than birth)?  ~a

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