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[2006-01-04 15:48:12] - I just realized how creepy it is that if I one day have kids, they will probably be able to read about a billion things I wrote on the Internet any time they want - vinnie

[2006-01-04 15:37:56] - dave: I agree that kind of a test would be useful, if it worked like the SAT test, where it was organized by someone other than microsoft to say "how good is this person at X" - aaron

[2006-01-04 15:27:50] - a: well, not exactly take their word for it, but i mean it institutes a reference point that they can say, at least this guy knows this much, he can run our network -dave

[2006-01-04 15:26:26] - a: i would probably agree with the problem solving thing. at the same time, i do think it's somewhat useful to have some certification to say that this person at least knows how to do X, like setup some server or something. otherwise, companies kinda have to just take their interviewee's word for it -dave

[2006-01-04 15:25:00] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060104-5893.html so with this supposed transition to digital tv from analog tv, does that mean you'd have to get some sort of cable service to get tv? or somehow these converter boxes would get input from some existing line? -dave

[2006-01-04 14:24:52] - I took an MSCE pre-exam training session one summer.  It was mildly informative, but I fully expect most of us could pass the MSCE exam without breaking a sweat.  The hardest part would probably be remembering the names MS comes up with their tools. -- Xpvoso

[2006-01-04 14:23:32] - i'd prefer a test that focuses on problem solving independent of specific hardware/software vendors.  ~a

[2006-01-04 14:21:17] - dave/sam:  ok, point taken.  i still stand by my feeling that the mcse is a waste and yet another way ms is trying to push product buy-in.  ~a

[2006-01-04 12:53:01] - a: a lot of them are ex-military people. -sam

[2006-01-04 12:52:26] - a: but then, a lot of people i work with don't have college degree... -sam

[2006-01-04 12:50:57] - a: actually, mcse is valued in our company. -sam

[2006-01-04 12:49:10] - a: oops i meant 8- yr old,  not 8th grader -sam

[2006-01-04 12:43:19] - a: yeah, i don't think i would read too much into a 2nd grader being able to do it.  I would think there would be a decent chance that some genius kids can do a lot of things that we still find difficult -dave

[2006-01-04 12:28:23] - a: maybe that 8th grader is a rare genius? -sam

[2006-01-04 12:22:50] - sam:  no offense to 8 year olds, but if a 2nd grader can pass the mcse, i don't really put much faith in it.  ~a

[2006-01-04 12:21:44] - sam:  february, child of 8 passes the mcse:  "Later, as he prances about in the lawn with some other children without a trace of the earlier seriousness, it is difficult to believe he is the youngest Microsoft Certified Software Engineer ... What makes Mridul’s story even more interesting is that until four years ago he did not even know how to speak."  ~a

[2006-01-04 12:13:41] - sam:  why the hell would you want to be an mcse?  seems like a total waste of time and money to me.  ~a

[2006-01-04 00:39:26] - console rpg laws: http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html - pierce

[2006-01-03 19:55:18] - is anyone here MCSE certified?    if so, do you have any suggestions on the study guide?    -sam

[2006-01-03 17:04:49] - although my overall utilities aren't too bad.  ~a

[2006-01-03 17:04:34] - yeah.  me neither.  my cable bill is unusually high.  ~a

[2006-01-03 17:03:44] - a: We shall see. It would be a little useful but I don't really want to pay even more for my cable bill. -Paul

[2006-01-03 17:00:40] - dave:  that's why i said "a powerpc chip" instead of "the powerpc chip".  obviously none of them are the same powerpc chips that went into apple computers.  afaik, all three of them (sony with 8 cores, nintendo with ?, microsoft with 3 cores) are based on the ppc chip.  ~a

[2006-01-03 16:57:10] - paul:  sign up for a dvr service.  :-P  ~a

[2006-01-03 16:42:16] - I hope it's going to air on Thursdays instead of Wednesdays because I have basketball on Wednesday so it might force me to finally sign up for a DVR service. -Paul

[2006-01-03 16:41:42] - aba: Thanks. I don't think there is anything on the WB that I watch other than Beauty and the Geek but I'll definitely make sure to check the TV listings on the 11th and 12th. -Paul

[2006-01-03 16:19:40] - paul: the poster i saw said jan 11th, but the official wb website says jan 12th..... you might want to keep an eye on the wb for the tv ads.  -  aba

[2006-01-03 15:04:11] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Metafile_vulnerability if anyone's heard about the developing WMF vulnerability in windows, wikipedia has a nice comprehensive article - aaron

[2006-01-03 14:47:05] - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060103/ap_on_fe_st/rare_snake_sale 2-headed snake on sale for $150k. - mig

[2006-01-03 13:15:30] - Mig: I'm hoping that the fact the ND lost (and will end up with a worse record than us) will allow us to overtake them but I also could easily see people rationalizing why ND deserves to stay above us. -Paul

[2006-01-03 13:13:06] - i could see us moving past all the teams that lost yesterday ... but somehow i doubt it.  Still too many ND dick sucker voters out there i'm afraid :( - mig

[2006-01-03 13:04:59] - http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,276%7C99346%7C1%7C,00.html Best Unrequited Love: Pam and Jim on "The Office". Is it considered unrequited? -Paul

[2006-01-03 12:58:57] - We could also move above Oregon but I'm not sure if I would bet on that. -Paul

[2006-01-03 12:52:44] - Actually, I'm going to go with us moving up past Notre Dame, Auburn, Georgia and Miami to put us at #8. That's my official prediction. -Paul

[2006-01-03 12:43:03] - Sam: If you want to be optimistic, I could see us getting as high as #7 or #8, but I think Miguel is closer. -Paul

[2006-01-03 12:28:18] - they were #12 in both polls pre-bowl season, btw. - mig

[2006-01-03 12:27:00] - but i would think now that VT should secure a spot in the top 10 now, albiet barely.  I would say they'll be ranked #9 or #10 when all is said and done.  - mig

[2006-01-03 12:25:23] - sam:  BCS standings are not changed after bowls, only the ap and coach's polls are. - mig

[2006-01-03 12:24:50] - # 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 on the BCS standings lost their bowl games. #4 won its bowl game, #1, 2, 3 didn't play yet.  VT is currently #10.  When they come out with the final standings, what do you think VT will be ranked?  -sam

[2006-01-03 12:20:50] - a: in other words, the chips would have been too expensive for Apple because their sales volume is so much lower -dave

[2006-01-03 12:19:28] - a: I'm not sure the processors are PowerPC, but they are from IBM, so they may be. I think the processors are different from normal desktop PC parts though. Also, one purported reasons for the Apple switch was that they couldn't fund the research to come up with viable low/power/laptop solutions -dave

[2006-01-03 12:16:40] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/02/AR2006010201942.html US cedes duties in rebuilding Afghanistan -dave

[2006-01-03 12:05:00] - a: well as I recall, there was some speculation that apple couldn't get the number of Cell processors they wanted from IBM because the fab plants were going to be tied up with the consoles.  Don't ask me for a source, I think it was just rumor. - pierce

[2006-01-03 11:38:43] - ok, i was bumming around wikipedia and found out that all three nextgen consoles use a powerpc chip?  none of them use intel!  pretty interesting because apple is moving away from the ppc and towards intel.  ~a

[2006-01-03 11:23:42] - http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2006/1/3/2292 What makes things cute and why do we love them? -Paul

[2006-01-03 09:56:35] - how did this article make it past my work filter i wonder? hmmmm - aaron

[2006-01-03 09:51:17] - pierce:  yes i see that now too.  this time i won't explain why i was confused by that because i'm only digging myself deeper.  ~a

[2006-01-03 09:24:48] - a:  yeah the article itself seems very poorly written. - mig

[2006-01-03 09:13:07] - a: barry gay is not in the NFL.  he was trying to buy a fan-made shirt with his own name on it, like if I got a jersey that said "hanley". - pierce

[2006-01-03 09:10:09] - . . . in fact, that isn't that weird of an assumption since they say the name thing is only affecting one current player:  "Randall is the first Gay in the NFL since Ben Gay played for the Cleveland Browns in 2001".  like we just quoted.  i don't get it . . . barry isn't in the nfl anymore?  ~a

[2006-01-03 09:08:08] - ah.  i didn't realize this was affecting more than one current player.  ~a

[2006-01-02 12:20:53] - a: that quote is from Barry Gay, someone who was trying to buy a shirt with his name on it.  "Randall is the first Gay in the NFL" refers to "New England Patriots rookie defensive back Randall Gay". - pierce

[2006-01-02 02:56:02] - pierce:  scroll down.  "To add insult to injury, I just so happen to be gay, so it was all the more hurtful to learn that the NFL believes that God and nature conspired to make me naughty."  ~a

[2006-01-01 22:15:40] - a: are you being sarcastic?  I didn't read that anywhere in there, did I miss it? - pierce

[2006-01-01 18:56:39] - pierce:  but he is homosexual.  ~a

[2006-01-01 18:38:47] - aaron: I think miguel means it's confusing wording because "randall is the first gay in the NFL" would seem to suggest that randall is a homosexual, when in fact they mean that he's the first person with the last name "gay" in the NFL. - pierce

[2006-01-01 12:53:25] - hmmm maybe it's not a few exceptions..... now that i'm thinking about it there's a lot of exceptions.... i guess it's just certain groups for which it is considered demoralizing... - aaron

[2006-01-01 12:51:22] - a: the same reason you wouldn't say "so and so is the first black elected president"... With a few exceptions, people consider it demoralizing to nounify attributes like race/sexual orientation/religion - aaron

[2005-12-30 17:41:14] - mig:  very poor wording, why?  ~a

[2005-12-30 17:30:14] - Randall is the first Gay in the NFL ...... very poor wording.... - mig

[2005-12-30 17:02:50] - http://outsports.com/nfl/2005/0301nflshop.htm    scroll to the borrom  and look at some of the controversial names you can put on NFL jerseys. -sam

[2005-12-30 17:00:21] - This is the list of  "naughty" words not allowed on personalized jerseys at the NFL Shop. http://outsports.com/nfl/2005/0301nflshopnaughtywords.htm    -sam

[2005-12-30 16:55:46] - do you know if anyone has made fun of Randal Gay's name on TV? -sam

[2005-12-30 16:47:37] - Aaron: I guess so, but this really seems like stretching it to me. Seems a little overly sensitive to get upset because somebody says your name is hard to spell (and is seemingly saying it in a good natured way instead of just trying to be mean). -Paul

[2005-12-30 16:45:29] - Sam: Well, according to some BC players, it was. :-) -Paul

[2005-12-30 16:45:12] - paul: I don't know if it's disrespectful but it's always annoying hearing jokes about your name - aaron

[2005-12-30 16:43:45] - paul: it didn't sound insulting to me... -sam

[2005-12-30 16:07:11] - I wish you would quit carping on that subject. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 15:50:40] - puns related to fish stick better than other ones - aaron

[2005-12-30 15:19:08] - mig:  not to mention that he was making fun of his name while mispronouncing it.  ~a

[2005-12-30 15:18:30] - I'll see you fried on Friday for this. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 15:11:48] - paul:  well give who the person was ... it was a joke in rather poor taste. - mig

[2005-12-30 15:03:13] - a: looking to hammer heads? (yeah ok, this is getting dumb) - vinnie

[2005-12-30 14:54:43] - man am i punchy today.  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:54:32] - paul:  it's insulting to all democrats.  because all democrats are unable to hear anything but uber-PC language.  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:53:09] - vinnie:  mackerels are not seals, they're fish.  seals are mammels.  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:50:52] - http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls05/news/story?id=2275267 Is commenting that "Mathias Kiwanuka" is hard to pronounce really that insulting? -Paul

[2005-12-30 14:50:32] - a: I subscribe to a different school of humor - vinnie

[2005-12-30 14:39:23] - It's also quite tasty. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 14:27:42] - "The name "mahi-mahi" ("strong-strong" in Hawaiian) has been adopted in recent years to avoid confusing these fish with dolphins, which are mammals."  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:20:12] - Mahi-mahi is dolphin, yes, and is a fish.  I learned this on a Florida vacation.  Disney runs a lot of hotels.  One of them is called the Dolphin and the Swan.  Which is really two towers, each tower has a giant statue on the top.  A swan, obviously, and the other is a mahi-mahi.  Confused the heck out of me, since I was looking for a bottle-nosed. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 14:15:44] - Xpovos: Really? I had never heard that. -Paul

[2005-12-30 14:14:33] - according to wikipedia, all dolphins are mammals (unless you're talking about dolphinfish).  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:12:55] - and andrew is a chemist.  he knows what he's talking about :-P  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:11:57] - Paul: There are two species called dolphin.  Bottle-nosed dolphins are mammals, the other kind is a fish. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 14:08:19] - vinnie:  and you could have just argued that you were kidding and we would have bought it, hook line and etc.  now we don't believe you!  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:06:23] - paul: I was referring to the mackerels that sealed the ceremony. yes, because that's what makes this wedding out of the ordinary - vinnie

[2005-12-30 14:06:20] - a: Well, I would be a whole lot happier if taxes weren't going to take away a ton of my earnings. -Paul

[2005-12-30 14:04:32] - i'm christian btw.  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:04:32] - Vinnie: Dolphins aren't fish, they are mammals. -Paul

[2005-12-30 14:04:23] - vinnie:  and the man must be me.  always.  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:03:59] - wow.  150% is pretty good.  i'm only at like 40% this year and i'm on cloud nine.  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:03:50] - a: me too, but I'd like to stipulate that they also should both be christian. and white - vinnie

[2005-12-30 14:03:10] - a: I think I always use my middle finger to right click. -Paul

[2005-12-30 14:02:34] - a: I'm down about 0.5k from yesterday I think, but considering I'm at like 250% of my original investment, I'm happy. -Paul

[2005-12-30 14:02:31] - vinnie:  i believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman.  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:01:20] - . . . also scrolling then immediately clicking on things is way too slow when you only use your index finger on the wheel.  ~a

[2005-12-30 14:00:21] - http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3191923,00.html a fishy wedding (yeah, I'm as surprised as you that the article headline is not a pun, so here's mine) - vinnie

[2005-12-30 13:59:56] - people who use their index finger:  how do you select text while scrolling?  it's something i do very often and couldn't easily do it without using my middle finger.  ~a

[2005-12-30 13:58:19] - Hooray for having small hands! -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 13:57:21] - I use my index finger. using my middle finger feel uncomfortably, like my finger is too long or the button should be a few inches higher - vinnie

[2005-12-30 13:53:42] - But there is a mention of a trackball as well, which I'd forgotten about.  I used to use them all the time, and my trackball had a scroll wheel.  I'd use thumb for both right and left clicking, index and middle finger for tracking, and ring finger for scrolling.  I think that was the device everyone else hated to use. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 13:26:16] - Sam: AVG Free version.  Very powerful and free. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 13:25:59] - a: I'm the same way re: right clicking.  If I'm wheeling a lot, the middle finger is occupied, so it goes to the ring finger.  But I never seem to use my index for wheeling. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 12:32:37] - or does anyone know of any anti virus software that u don't have to pay yearly fee on? -sam

[2005-12-30 12:31:39] - does anyone have norton anti-virus corporate edition that we got as a free download from VT?  i think the installation file was like 8MB.  does anyone have this?  i used to have it and installed it on multiple computers.  i'm trying to find it so that i can install it on a new computer, but i think i lost it. -sam

[2005-12-30 11:58:12] - and sometimes i catch mysolf using my ring finger for right clicking (but not often).  ~a

[2005-12-30 11:56:05] - paul:  i figured out the pattern (if you care).  i use the middle finger for the wheel if i'm clicking on things a bunch (because the index finger is busy clicking).  i use the index finder for the wheel if i'm reading and scrolling as i'm reading (because the index finger is more accurate).  ~a

[2005-12-30 11:53:54] - i'm down about $.7k from my high four days ago.  ~a

[2005-12-30 11:53:41] - a: I never use my index finger and I don't know if I ever considered it. It just feels strange to me. -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:52:32] - a: My stocks are down today, but they were up for the two days before today. :-) -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:51:55] - paul:  i actually switch back and forth (i still haven't found out the pattern to why i use one vs. the other)  ~a

[2005-12-30 11:51:55] - Sam: I guess my point is that you can't really prove it either way. I think for the most part, I agree with the average computer rankings because they seem to do a good job of objectively ranking teams. -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:50:42] - http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/34709834/m/176002896731/showpollresults/Y Wow, do the majority of people really use their index finger for the mouse-wheel? -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:50:21] - if only i had known the week before new years was going to suck so much.  ~a

[2005-12-30 11:49:59] - paul:  yikes, apple has gone down almost 6% in the past three days.  and google has gone down almost that in the past four days.  ~a

[2005-12-30 11:47:44] - paul: i think people have to compare head to head matchs and "who beat who that beat who" kind of thing in ncaa football.  how else would you rank the teams?  -sam

[2005-12-30 11:39:45] - paul: also, if i said vt is good, that's just my personal opinion.  -sam

[2005-12-30 11:38:31] - paul: i said "they beat us AND beat the team that beat us (miami), so they are good" -sam

[2005-12-30 11:37:33] - paul: how do u want me to prove that vt is either good or not good? -sam

[2005-12-30 11:35:27] - Sam: But they beat the team that beat us, which is exactly the rationale you used to say that FSU was good. -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:34:52] - Sam: Right, as long as you understand that you're just assuming that VT was good and not proving it. -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:33:29] - paul: no, if i use my logic, uva is not a good team because they lost to us. -sam

[2005-12-30 11:32:19] - Sam: But you're still basing everything on the assumption that we're a good team and that beating us makes the other team a good team and that's not necessarily true. If you use that logic, UVA is a good team because they beat FSU (who beat us). -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:32:14] - paul: i'm trying to say VT was good this year. -sam

[2005-12-30 11:30:52] - paul: lol, i meant to say "they beat us and beat the team that beat us (miami), so they are good."  -sam

[2005-12-30 11:30:11] - Sam: What does this all mean? It means that I think Tech is a slightly better team but it's definitely just my (biased) opinion and you could make a very good argument that Miami is better, -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:29:58] - paul: it wasn't really "they beat us so they must be good."    i was trying to say that "they beat us and beat the beat that beat us (miami), so they are good."  -sam

[2005-12-30 11:29:11] - Sam: For instance, Miami and VT have similar records and both only have two losses. Our schedule strengths were also about the same. We both lost to FSU in decently close games (neither were blowouts). We lost to Miami head-to-head but we blew out a Georgia Tech team which beat them. -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:27:21] - Sam: For the most part, I go by a team's record unless I see a glaring difference in terms of strength of schedule and if there are ties (or the records are close) then I try to examine how many quality wins they had and how bad their losses were. -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:25:36] - od = of

[2005-12-30 11:25:17] - Sam: I don't think you can use the justification od "they beat us so they must be good" for FSU. :-P -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:24:42] - Sam: I guess my point is that you can't look too deeply into exactly who beat who and head-to-head matchups. All too often they just lead around in circles. Besides, college football is especially volatile in that the better team won't always win. -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:16:04] - paul: same for nortre dame vs. boston college -sam

[2005-12-30 11:15:24] - paul: i'm guessing during the texas christian university vs. southern methodist university's game, players and fans from the both sides were praying to the same god? -sam

[2005-12-30 11:13:48] - paul: apparently, god was on the "methodist" side, rather than the "christian" side..  :) -sam

[2005-12-30 11:10:50] - paul: about fsu beating miami and vt, i was trying to say that we lost to a good team -sam

[2005-12-30 11:09:18] - paul: but TCU lost to Southern Methodist!    -sam

[2005-12-30 11:08:24] - paul: oops, TCU beat oklahoma -sam

[2005-12-30 11:06:56] - paul: if you count the bowl game, oklahoma is 8-4 and oregon is 10-2 -sam

[2005-12-30 11:06:10] - paul: ok, then, let's change the subject a little bit...  let's look at the TCU, oklahoma, and oregon relationship.    TCU (10-1, conf champ) only lost to oklahoma (7-4) who beat oregon (10-1) who only lost to USC.  who is better?  -sam

[2005-12-30 11:03:25] - Sam: I'm not sure if I see your point. Saying that FSU beat us only seems to show that we're not that good. :-P -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:02:50] - Sam: You can go around in circles for a long time. Believe me, I've done it. We beat Georgia Tech so we should be better than them. Miami beat us so they should be better than us. But Georgia Tech beat Miami so they should be better than Miami but worse than us.... -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:02:28] - paul: yes, but fsu beat miami and VT -sam

[2005-12-30 11:01:25] - Sam: And Miami beat us. :-P -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:00:56] - Sam: And like Miguel said, Florida State lost to UVA. -Paul

[2005-12-30 11:00:37] - Sam: Well, it probably helped us out a bit in the computer rankings. -Paul

[2005-12-30 10:47:31] - paul: georgia tech beat miami! -sam

[2005-12-30 10:46:58] - paul: louisville lost to South Florida!    South Florida is 6-5  -sam

[2005-12-30 10:45:07] - paul: so if WV is a good team, then shouldn't we get some kind of a bonus for beating a quality team? -sam

[2005-12-30 10:42:35] - Sam: Sure, we beat them head-to-head, but we also have twice as many losses as they do. Did we play a tougher schedule? Probably, but I don't think our schedule was twice as hard. -Paul

[2005-12-30 10:41:24] - Sam: If you take out our head-to-head match-up, WVU beat a higher ranked team (Louisville) than we did (Boston College and Georgia Tech). -Paul

[2005-12-30 10:28:19] - Xpovos: but look at the teams that WV played.  http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/wwh/schedule    -sam

[2005-12-30 10:24:50] - WVU is probably under-ranked even at being a one-loss team.  They played very consistantly throughout the year.  Something we did not do. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-30 10:22:39] - mig: we beat WV.  WV only lost to us. miami beat us but lost to FSU and geogia tech.  -sam

[2005-12-30 10:19:47] - mig: who do you think were better this year?  VT, miami, or WV?  -sam

[2005-12-30 10:17:25] - mig: who do you think got luckier this year?  WV or FSU?  -sam

[2005-12-30 10:15:44] - I would've had a lot to say on the matter of the BCS and college football but it seems to be a little late to comment in depth on it now. I'll just say that I thought Oregon should've gotten a BCS berth instead of Notre Dame. -Paul

[2005-12-30 10:04:21] - I am in agreement that Notre Dame does not deseve to be in the BCS at all, but we don't either. - mig

[2005-12-30 10:03:38] - ... who lost to florida, maryland, clemson, and uva. - mig

[2005-12-30 10:01:34] - sam:  and we still lost to fsu. - mig

[2005-12-30 09:17:53] - Aaron: Sorry, I didn't catch your message until it was too late. I wouldn't have been able to do it anyway, since I was busy last night. -Paul

[2005-12-30 08:50:17] - heh.  the million dollar homepage certainly took off.  . . . and they just got covered by slashdot.  ~a

[2005-12-30 07:09:57] - did you know the VT's defense is #1 in least yards allowed and #3 in least points allowed in the nation?  -sam

[2005-12-30 06:46:03] - nevermind about georgia being #4 and losing to michigan state.. i'm wrong -sam

[2005-12-29 14:36:30] - a: yes, you are right. -sam

[2005-12-29 13:38:55] - isn't that an old title?  ~a

[2005-12-29 12:18:08] - mig: i think the big east was fine when miami, VT and BC were there -sam

[2005-12-29 12:05:17] - sam:  it varries greatly mostly depending on how much alcohol i drink in a given month.  also somewhat dependent on if i bring/buy lunch at work.  ~a

[2005-12-29 12:00:59] - mig: big east too weak compared to other conferences that have the automatic bcs bow bid -sam

[2005-12-29 11:55:32] - mig: ND also lost to michigan state -sam

[2005-12-29 11:54:15] - mig: and #4 georgia lost to michigan ST! michigan state is 5-6!  -sam

[2005-12-29 11:52:30] - mig: penn state lost to michgan. michigan isn't very good either -sam

[2005-12-29 11:50:46] - about how much do you guys spend on food each month? -sam

[2005-12-29 11:21:49] - and well there's no excuse for us losing to FSU ... so I don't think we should be in over WVU. - mig

[2005-12-29 11:21:12] - sam:  i hesitate to really harp on the fact that the BE has a bcs bowl bid because we could have very easily been in WVU's shoes as well... - mig

[2005-12-29 10:45:53] - a: Well, it is tangentially relevent to our work, but still, it diverted a good half hour away from the more pressing tasks. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-29 10:35:48] - like, if i worked at the rockefeller foundation or something, i might expect to talk about stuff like that.  ~a

[2005-12-29 10:33:43] - xpovos:  nope.  but where do you work?  ~a

[2005-12-29 10:32:12] - Does anyone else have conversations about Thomas Mann and ephebophilia with their bosses at work?  I find this most strange. -- Xpovos

[2005-12-29 10:30:38] - "it's the guy from 'big'.  tom hanks!  everything he says is a riot."  "i have aids"  ~a

[2005-12-29 10:03:53] - heh I was looking at Colin Hanks and saw he had a role in Orange County and then saw he had a guest credit in the O.C. I stupidly thought for a second, "jeez, he played two characters on the same show?" - vinnie

[2005-12-29 10:01:51] - I never knew he had a brother, only a son - vinnie

[2005-12-29 09:58:28] - vinnie: fun imdb moment.  you remember the drs. turner and hooch from scrubs?  dr. turner was played by tom hanks's brother - pierce

[2005-12-29 09:32:09] - my only crime was curiosity - vinnie

[2005-12-29 09:31:45] - pierce: oops I accidentally moved the dot around! I hope that doesn't change the GPS of everyone on New Zealand or something - vinnie

[2005-12-29 08:56:56] - paul: you should come to DDR today mr. has the day off! - aaron

[2005-12-29 08:55:01] - the champs of 6 eligible conferences and the next highest bcs ranked teams (#4 and #5) made it to the bcs games (#1, #2, #3 are all conference champs) -sam

[2005-12-29 08:38:11] - don't you think another team in ACC or SEC deserve to be in a bcs bowl instead of WV... like VT?

[2005-12-29 08:35:14] - WV is just lucky. they had really no competition in their little "Big East" conference. Their only loss was to VT -sam

[2005-12-29 08:33:54] - BCS Bowl Games: #1 USC (12-0) vs #2 Texas (12-0),    #22 Florida State (8-4) vs #3 Penn State (10-1),    #8 Georgia (10-2) vs #11 West Virginia (10-1),    #5 Notre Dame (9-2) vs. #4 Ohio State (9-2)  -sam

[2005-12-29 08:30:02] - there are only 4 bcs bowl games. -sam

[2005-12-29 08:28:29] - man, i feel bad for the small conferences... -sam

[2005-12-29 08:27:55] - "To the extent that such teams do not qualify to play in the national championship game, the conference champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pacific-10 and Southeastern Conferences. These teams are guaranteed berths." -sam

[2005-12-29 08:27:51] - "The teams ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings. These two teams will play in the BCS bowl hosting the national championship game." -sam

[2005-12-29 08:19:59] - #3 Penn State is playing #22 FSU in the 2nd best BCS bowl game?  Does that sound fair?  -sam

[2005-12-28 17:18:37] - aaron:  i think this stupid number category is not stupid at all!  "in base 10, no 21 consecutive integers are all Harshad numbers."  ~a

[2005-12-28 17:17:21] - also "In base 10, all factorials are Harshad numbers." seems pretty odd.  why only in base 10?  ~a

[2005-12-28 17:14:33] - "There are only four all-Harshad numbers: 1, 2, 4, and 6."  that seems pretty cool.  ~a

[2005-12-28 17:10:02] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harshad_number another stupid number category - aaron

[2005-12-28 17:04:31] - weird... admin vs. no admin - pierce

[2005-12-28 16:57:21] - a: and no cookies... you did a good job! - aaron

[2005-12-28 16:55:26] - vinnie:  what are you talking about . . . oh no!  somebody found my super-secret admin page?!  ~a

[2005-12-28 16:54:23] - a: you should have at least made me change one of the variables :) - vinnie

[2005-12-28 16:50:46] - http://aporter.org/msg/?action=admin

[2005-12-28 15:58:56] - a: parsing XML myself (didn't know the C# XML functions at the time, and needed a quick hack) and entering elements in a series manually rather than with a loop (don't ask, at the time I thought Visual Studio's designer mode was the only way to go) - vinnie

[2005-12-28 15:54:41] - vinnie:  which two?  ~a

[2005-12-28 15:53:58] - two of the things on the website, that is

[2005-12-28 15:53:42] - so I figured out I am guilty of at least two of these things, at some point in my career :$ - vinnie

[2005-12-28 15:49:07] - scrubs

[2005-12-28 15:35:26] - a: hehe yeah, I don't plan to try any of these functions out, but you're right, even looking might reveal something confidential :) - vinnie

[2005-12-28 15:34:42] - and the second one looks like you can use the admin functions! no pass or anything! I can't believe some developers - vinnie

[2005-12-28 15:33:17] - vinnie:  heh.  careful.  the law doesn't take kindly to such tests.  ~a

[2005-12-28 15:33:17] - a: yeah, there was a password box there which I imagine would need to be filled out, but I was still able to see the admin functions. they were hidden when admin=false - vinnie

[2005-12-28 15:32:07] - aaron: jesus! I went to the first hit on the search results and was able to access admin functions. that is crazy - vinnie

[2005-12-28 15:31:04] - aaron:  i'm not confident that all of those sites are actually doing what you think they are.  hypothetical:  i could immagine "admin=true" to mean the user is requesting admin privilages (so the code could then validate authentication credentials).  ~a

[2005-12-28 15:28:51] - http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl%3Aadmin%3Dfalse and wow that is done a lot of places - aaron

[2005-12-28 15:26:05] - vinnie: ha ha! - aaron

[2005-12-28 15:18:27] - hehe http://www.thedailywtf.com/forums/22659/ShowPost.aspx - vinnie

[2005-12-28 14:20:53] - aaron: mine too! - aaron

[2005-12-28 14:11:48] - >:o  ~a

[2005-12-28 14:11:34] - my favorite part of "pragmatically registering" is that my start button is at the top of my screen (because i like to be different) so it wouldn't even work.  ~a

[2005-12-28 14:11:10] - a: Oh okay - cool, that's one of my favorites too. I love the completely random things which would totally throw that code (moving your start menu to the top of the screen, or adding an item to your start menu that starts with the letter R) - aaron

[2005-12-28 14:09:03] - aaron:  heh.  by "first one" i meant "Pragmatically Registering" (which IS the start menu one you are talking about).  they went an updated their front page (in the past few minutes) after i posted that message.  ~a

[2005-12-28 13:57:37] - a: ahaha! that one is new! I hadn't seen it. I like the one after it - the one which is trying to find your start menu to run a shell script - aaron

[2005-12-28 13:55:41] - http://www.thedailywtf.com/forums/52996/ShowPost.aspx avast! stupid pop up messages! - aaron

[2005-12-28 13:55:26] - lol.  i like the first one best!  some code makes me hate the phrase "if it aint broke, don't fix it"    . . . it totally reminds me of the project i'm working on right now (#includes that don't work unless you #include something else also; externs that refer to data that doesn't actually exist; but works because isn't used)  ~a

[2005-12-28 13:50:47] - http://www.thedailywtf.com/forums/34879/ShowPost.aspx the great pyramids of div - aaron

[2005-12-28 13:50:39] - http://www.thedailywtf.com/ - aaron

[2005-12-28 12:09:05] - vinnie: Ditto, I found a site which seemed helpful and indicated my cell phone came with a ringtone composer... which is not the case. - aaron

[2005-12-28 11:39:17] - when I was looking for a cell phone in 2003 I found a very professional looking website with cell phone reviews, helped lead me to the piece of shit phone I have today. I don't even remember what site it was, which is probably for the best - vinnie

[2005-12-28 00:24:21] - Sam: If you find a good website for cell phone reviews, let me know (ie, I don't know of any). -Paul

[2005-12-28 00:23:51] - a: I've watched a couple of episodes of a couple of shows on that list (3 or 4) and Battlestar Galactica is something I've heard good things about and is something I want to watch eventually. -Paul

[2005-12-28 00:22:42] - aaaron: Ah, ok. Backwards compatibility isn't a big deal with me since I don't own any of the older games. I was just wondering if there were any plans to create dance pads and DDR games for the 360. -Paul

[2005-12-27 19:55:37] - interesting counterargument:  "The average urine output for adults is 1.5 liters a day. You lose close to an additional liter of water a day through breathing, sweating and bowel movements."  although i know the first part can't possibly be true.  ~a

[2005-12-27 19:43:23] - "One liter is the equivalent of about four 8-ounce glasses.  According to most estimates, that's roughly the amount of water most Americans get in solid food. In short, though doctors don't recommend it, many of us could cover our bare-minimum daily water needs without drinking anything during the day."  ~a

[2005-12-27 19:43:21] - "Kidney specialists do agree on one thing, however: that the [8 glasses of water per day] rule is a gross overestimate of any required minimum.  To replace daily losses of water, an average-sized adult ... needs no more than one liter of fluid, according to Jurgen Schnermann, a kidney physiologist at the National Institutes of Health." . . .  ~a

[2005-12-27 17:55:42] - does anyone know any good website for cell phone reviews? -sam

[2005-12-27 17:42:42] - I like Project Runway - i'm surprised Colbert Report made top 10 though, I don't particularly care for it, and I feel I'm squarely within the target demographic - aaron

[2005-12-27 17:34:34] - some guy names battlestar galactica show of the year.  is it sad, that of these top 10 tv shows, the only one i've seen a full episode of is "wonder showzen" ?  ~a

[2005-12-27 15:34:53] - a: a good question - vinnie

[2005-12-27 15:12:54] - how would we get the footage?  ~a

[2005-12-27 15:03:39] - you guys need to get that footage and send it to SA or fark or something. don't you want to be the next numanuma? - vinnie

[2005-12-27 14:58:56] - paul: http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=111769&highlight=& it sounds like a lot of DDR players are upset that XBox 360 is not backwards-compatible with any of the DDR games - aaron

[2005-12-27 14:52:37] - wait wait.  that's wrong.  third hand (or fourth hand if watching the news is already second hand).  ok now i'm just confusing myself.  how about N hand (where N is a number that was too high)  ~a

[2005-12-27 14:50:26] - paul:  i put "or something" because i was hearing about the segment second hand (or third hand if watching the news is already second hand).  i have no idea what they were actually talking about.  ~a

[2005-12-27 14:48:04] - a: Are they saying the Xbox360 doesn't support DDR now or that it never will? -Paul

[2005-12-27 14:47:38] - a: Now that you mention it, I have a coworker who smokes and I don't think she wears a seatbelt... -Paul

[2005-12-27 13:58:39] - amy: ha ha! i wonder if they'ved dubbed you with a wilhelm-esque clip name yet - aaron

[2005-12-27 13:34:14] - they never aired the original segment, right?  ~a

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