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[2006-04-10 17:30:10] - a: well, not unless you want to run asp or asp.net -sam
[2006-04-10 17:15:38] - i suggest using apache http server. it's what most internet companies rely on. ~a
[2006-04-10 17:11:35] - also, as if it couldn't get any worse, microsoft has a bad habit of dropping support for software it can't make money on anymore (so you'll probably have to keep upgrading; and trust me, the enterprise versions of microsoft's operating systems are very expensive). ~a
[2006-04-10 17:10:13] - and i'm sure you don't care that iis is not open source. ~a
[2006-04-10 17:10:03] - i have a bad feeling that your version of iis limits the number of continuous users. ~a
[2006-04-10 17:09:15] - well i have many problems with iis. iis is well known for its security problems which created huge problems back in 2001. also, unlike all of the other major webservers (apache http server, apache tomcat, lighttpd, thttpd, ncsa httpd, zeus) iis will not run in solaris, iis will not run in bsd, iis will not run in mac osx, iis will not run in linux. also ... ~a
[2006-04-10 17:05:09] - a: why? what's wrong with IIS? -sam
[2006-04-10 16:58:05] - sam: iis? eww. ~a
[2006-04-10 16:48:38] - a: it should be up now... apparently zone alarmed turned off windows firewall when it first started... i turned both windows firewall and zone alarm and it's working now. -sam
[2006-04-10 16:34:22] - a: actually it still is down... i just installed zone alarm and i'm trying to figure out how to open certain ports. -sam
[2006-04-10 16:21:44] - a: yay! .D -amy
[2006-04-10 16:20:59] - a: i just restarted my computer. it should be up now -sam
[2006-04-10 16:19:21] - sam: your site is down. ~a
[2006-04-10 16:13:45] - amy: apparently i made up enterprise server beans. i think i just meant enterprise java beans (ejb). ~a
[2006-04-10 16:10:17] - amy: so am i! i refer to my earlier post: "i hate application servers, and netbeans, and servlets, and enterprise server beans ... they all suck. oh and .net sucks too." ~a
[2006-04-10 16:07:04] - err no. web server applications is the one that i know. application server is the one i don't. ahh i am so easily confused by terminologies .) -amy
[2006-04-10 16:06:16] - a: OK, thank you. that does make sense. i think i am not familiar with web server applications, then. -amy
[2006-04-10 16:05:55] - sam: i'll link to it later on
~a[2006-04-10 16:05:45] - amy: like there are four categories in my mind: web server applications (perl, php, cgi, jsp, servlets, tomcat, apache, etc) regular applications (cpp, java pojo, etc), applets (java), and application servers (j2ee, ejb, jboss, sunas) ~a
[2006-04-10 16:03:50] - a: yea it is my webpage. i'll put more stuff later on. -sam
[2006-04-10 16:03:16] - i could. but why would i? is this your webpage? if so, then i ask why your webpage is so blank. ~a
[2006-04-10 16:02:26] - an application server is different. inherently there are no web servers when you use an application server. ~a
[2006-04-10 16:02:24] - a: could you put http://www.this-is-good.info:60/ to the links? -sam
[2006-04-10 16:01:41] - ummm. no. apache or tomcat use web server applications (applications that run on a web server). ~a
[2006-04-10 16:01:11] - ummm. you'd probably know if you used an application server to write code. this is because you need to deploy code (through magic?) to the application server. you're reaching the extent of my knowledge regarding j2ee though. you might want to ask aaron or mig. ~a
[2006-04-10 15:59:50] - a: okay so j2ee would fulfill some of the same functions as apache or tomcat? -amy
[2006-04-10 15:59:30] - luckily you didn't ask me about java beans (or enterprise java beans or enterprise server java beans) because i know nothing about them. ~a
[2006-04-10 15:59:21] - actually a better way of putting it is that i don't understand what the terminology refers to, but i probably understand how it is used and possibly have used those things but just did not know what they were called. (unless it's one of those things where you'd know it if you used it.) -amy
[2006-04-10 15:58:10] - amy: j2ee is a whole different animal. part of j2ee is the application server (jboss or sunas are the only ones i've used). the application server holds your applictions and sends them (through magic?) to a user who wants to run your application. i know FAR less about application servers than anything else. ~a
[2006-04-10 15:57:30] - a: oops i replied too soon. -amy
[2006-04-10 15:57:20] - a: thanks, that much makes sense. can you expl anything about what j2ee and servlets? are they environments, application servers, do you code in Java and run stuff on them ... like i really don't understand the basic way in which they are used? -amy
[2006-04-10 15:56:50] - amy: java (often called pojo: plain old java objects) are sometimes loaded by applets and sometimes loaded as plain java applications. ~a
[2006-04-10 15:55:49] - amy: java servlets and java server pages (afaik) are web server applications much like perl/php. think of them like cgi scripts (although they're more like php because they're often loaded IN the webserver instead of BY the webserver) ~a
[2006-04-10 15:54:34] - amy: i can give a partial answer. javascript is very different from all the other javas in that it's a special language of its own that only somewhat resembles java. it's basically its own language. and it can be loaded natively (i.e. no need for a plugin or extension) by the web browser. ~a
[2006-04-10 15:40:39] - specifically, I have used java, jsps, js... how different are these things from j2EE and servlets? what additional things would i have to know? -amy
[2006-04-10 15:39:44] - Can somebody explain the relationship between Java, J2EE, Java Servlets, Java Server Pages (JSPs) and JavaScript? -amy
[2006-04-10 15:27:40] - even if you hate scp for some reason, there are still better things than ftp. secure ftp would be what i would use if i didn't want to use ftp. ~a
[2006-04-10 15:21:47] - sam: don't use ftp. use scp/ssh. ~a
[2006-04-10 14:32:30] - s/does/would - mig
[2006-04-10 14:32:15] - ssh works i don't see why ftp does not. - mig
[2006-04-10 14:32:00] - sam: as far as i know only port 80 is actively blocked. - mig
[2006-04-10 14:24:11] - a: what about port 21 for ftp? -sam
[2006-04-10 14:15:25] - how much extra i don't know. - mig
[2006-04-10 14:12:09] - a: fios actually you can, you just gotta pay extra for it. - mig
[2006-04-10 14:10:35] - aba: http://dvd.ign.com/articles/700/700666p1.html Brisco County on DVD. -Paul
[2006-04-10 14:04:01] - aba: yes, but routing your website through a port other than 80 can be annoying. ~a
[2006-04-10 14:01:07] - a: well, you can run a webserver on another port right? - aba
[2006-04-10 13:59:01] - sam: cox and verizon fios both block port 80. if you care about running a webserver EVER in the future, you can't move to a neighborhood that requires you to use cox or verizon fios. ~a
[2006-04-10 13:44:45] - sam: fyi: you can't run a webserver because you use cox as your broadband provider (cox sucks; cox blocks port 80) ~a
[2006-04-10 13:43:42] - sam: done. ~a
[2006-04-10 12:32:31] - a: sure i can wait -sam
[2006-04-10 12:21:11] - sam: yes, i'm busy now, can it wait? ~a
[2006-04-10 11:35:19] - a: you can email me at sampatton@gmail.com -sam
[2006-04-10 09:27:44] - sam: you want me to post the ips here? ~a
[2006-04-10 07:36:28] - a: can you look at the messages i posted on sunday and tell me what the ip address was? -sam
[2006-04-10 07:23:55] - a: can you see if you can view http://68.100.31.113 ? -sam
[2006-04-10 07:23:42] - a: if you can view http://68.100.31.113 ? -sam
[2006-04-09 22:20:10] - http://abcd123456789/ -sam
[2006-04-09 22:15:20] - a: it's a person bowing down or a person in dispair. -sam
[2006-04-09 17:26:56] - title: overtime loss, over the line, or oracle template library? ~a
[2006-04-07 23:20:55] - kobe bryant 30 points at the half -sam
[2006-04-07 16:33:55] - Sam: Well, it doesn't start until 7:00 and I imagine people wouldn't be too upset if you were playing while we did poker, but you might have to play without any sound. -Paul
[2006-04-07 16:18:55] - a: i love starbucks' white mocha.. i get it almost every morning -sam
[2006-04-07 16:17:24] - paul: i meant saturday... but i got your email about poker. so no xbox360? -sam
[2006-04-07 14:37:08] - Sam: And yes, I went to the party.
-Paul[2006-04-07 14:36:36] - Sam: Tomorrow? Saturday or Friday? -Paul
[2006-04-07 14:27:01] - paul: did you go to the party in NY last night? -sam
[2006-04-07 14:26:21] - paul: can i come over sometime tomorrow after 6pm? -sam
[2006-04-07 13:55:32] - Hooray for getting back home at 7:00am this morning!
-Paul[2006-04-07 13:19:55] - i have done so as well, thankfully my company has an office in the adjacent building that doesn't have a sucky web filter. - mig
[2006-04-07 13:03:50] - I have purchased a lawn ticket. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-07 12:16:15] - aba: saic's web filter sucks. - mig
[2006-04-07 11:55:49] - http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/15003C67AC89B880?artistid=735762&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60 - aba
[2006-04-07 11:43:10] - i woul also see nin - mig
[2006-04-07 11:38:50] - xpovos: i probably have an old/wrong number.
- aba[2006-04-07 11:38:27] - xpovos: i probably have an old/wrong number.
- aba[2006-04-07 11:36:48] - aba: Worked fine for me, I left a voicemail, since he didn't answer. Probably has it off at work. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-07 10:59:18] - also: i just ordered my ticket. - aba
[2006-04-07 10:54:25] - i just tried calling the number i have for him and got a weird automated message (he doesn't have his voicemail set up?). know how else to get in touch with him? - aba
[2006-04-07 10:44:07] - I figure Travis'd be interesting in going too... -- Xpovos
[2006-04-07 10:40:11] - let's all get lawn tickets and work out meeting up later? - aba
[2006-04-07 10:35:23] - subway. ~a
[2006-04-07 10:35:18] - i'd see nin. ~a
[2006-04-07 10:33:53] - sam: Both. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-07 10:33:37] - aba: I'm interested in going, but am in a similar boat to you. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-07 10:29:40] - i would eat at subway, but that's just me. - aba
[2006-04-07 10:00:38] - At the place I work at, there is a subway and a mcdonald's. I like subway's food better but don't like their customer service. I like mcdonald's customer service but don't like their food. if you were me, where would you rather go? -sam
[2006-04-07 10:00:22] - xpovos: are you going? i really want to go but i didn't know anyone else who was interested. which tickets are you getting? - aba
[2006-04-07 08:53:24] - Paul: Looks like today will be another good Sirius day. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-07 08:53:10] - NIN tickets for the Nissan Pavillion go on sale today. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 16:41:31] - a: (e^|) - aaron
[2006-04-06 16:41:04] - a: either one - aaron
[2006-04-06 15:44:24] - sfmonvcc? ~a
[2006-04-06 15:19:28] - the circuit is sad!
~a[2006-04-06 14:28:40] - a: at least i think that's what i remember from intro to psych - aaron
[2006-04-06 14:28:18] - a: as far as fear goes, i know the brain makes a distinction. people tend to fear things they can affect more than things that are out of their control - aaron
[2006-04-06 13:16:05] - ah, so the brain can't distinguish between things we can affect and things we cannot affect? that sounds reasonable. ~a
[2006-04-06 13:12:52] - a: Like when I hope that the Redskins win, it crosses over as an artifact from events we can change, I would say. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 13:11:27] - i.e. i look at my starbucks stock and "hope" that it goes up. i'm not sure why i do this, because hoping won't change the outcome. ~a
[2006-04-06 13:10:36] - xpovos: dogs can hope! my dog voices his hopes pretty often. ~a
[2006-04-06 13:09:59] - dave/xpovos: hmmm. i'm just now realizing that the same person didn't make all three posts. (the all-purple confused me). ok, what about things where you can't change the outcome. i.e. where hoping won't change the outcome. ~a
[2006-04-06 12:46:13] - a: in other words, i guess someone who is hoping for something will try harder for it than someone working towards the same goal, but not hoping for anything -dave
[2006-04-06 12:44:24] - a: Speaking strictly in evolutionary terms, it's a higher brain function. Dogs don't hope. Humans hope because it provides motivation. Having higher brain functions gives rise to such counter-evolutionary elements such as idleness. Cats sleep, but humans engage in sloth. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 12:44:11] - a: I don't think your axiom is true, from one perspective at least. If people don't hope for something, then they generally aren't going to try to get it. So whether you're hoping for something does kinda change whether you will try to get it or not -dave
[2006-04-06 12:42:57] - a
[2006-04-06 12:42:15] - vamy: Is this a recognized name still? -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 11:57:47] - (and yes, i changed the behavior of the "recipient:" field; now it will only highlight if it's a recognized name) ~a
[2006-04-06 11:57:03] - axiom: "hoping" for something doesn't change its outcome. question: what's the purpose of "hoping" for something? is it an evolutionary way of getting our brain to remember goals? or is it just an evolutionary deprogression of intelligence? ~a
[2006-04-06 11:50:16] - Paul: Only other thing I saw was yesterday they announced they'd get baseball too, which is huge, but the stock actually continued to fall after they annouced it, so-- -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 11:42:21] - Xpovos: I suppose that could help. -Paul
[2006-04-06 11:31:13] - I guess maybe their brokerage charges an extra commision fee for transactions over 1000? -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 11:30:38] - Why do so many people sell in bundles of 999? -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 10:48:52] - But this couldn't hurt: http://www.sportsfeatures.com/index.php?section=pp&action=show&id=30640 -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 10:41:02] - Paul: I've found the whys and wherefores of the movement of individual stocks often don't correlate to news too well. Let's just hope it continues in this vain. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 10:38:04] - Xpovos: I wonder why, not that I'm complaining. -Paul
[2006-04-06 10:37:17] - Sam: Sure, I think I should be home most of Friday evening and I'll probably be home later in the day on Saturday too. Just let me know when you think you'll want to come over. -Paul
[2006-04-06 10:26:31] - Paul: Sweet Jesus, there Sirius goes. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 10:24:11] - paul: can i come over sometime tomorrow or saturday to try out the xbox360? -sam
[2006-04-06 09:30:32] - sam: hotel india, sierra alpha mike -title
[2006-04-06 08:54:43] - sam: it depends on the earphones. i used to have a pair that i couldn't wear because they were so awkward. ~a
[2006-04-06 08:12:37] - sam: i have no problems with earphones, my headset that i wear for online games can get a bit unconfortable after a long while. - mig
[2006-04-06 08:08:22] - a: No problem. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-06 07:49:52] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060405-6526.html PS3 projected $500 - 600 -dave
[2006-04-05 23:10:54] - paul: nevermind, that was a bad question -sam
[2006-04-05 23:10:19] - Sam: I agree that it's weird that it's on a Thursday. We're allowed to come in late on Friday (12:00) because we likely won't get back to Virginia until 2:00 in the morning or so. -Paul
[2006-04-05 23:09:38] - Sam: I have a higher tolerance for earphones, but they do get uncomfortable after long periods of time. -Paul
[2006-04-05 23:07:43] - paul: i wonder why they have it on thursday night... are they taking friday off? -sam
[2006-04-05 23:06:07] - i can't seem to wear earphones or headphones for more than 30 minutes. my ears get very uncomfortable. do you guys have the same problems? -sam
[2006-04-05 22:45:57] - Sam: As for what kind of party it is, I'm not sure. I think it's at some kind of club so my guess is a not so formal party. -Paul
[2006-04-05 22:45:25] - Sam: I think around 12 people are going from my company, which is probably over 60% since it's a small company. -Paul
[2006-04-05 22:32:08] - paul: how many people from your company are going to the party? what kind of party is it? -sam
[2006-04-05 22:27:02] - title: what the f*ck ?!?! -sam
[2006-04-05 17:06:46] - a: Yeah, it won't really be much work on my part, so I'm not really worried about anything. I just think it's a little crazy.
-Paul[2006-04-05 17:05:18] - Amy: I doubt it will be for me since I hate parties. But I'm going to try to have fun. -Paul
[2006-04-05 16:41:10] - oh, you'll have a bus? that's even more acceptable. ~a
[2006-04-05 16:40:41] - Paul: That party better be damn fun. -amy
[2006-04-05 16:39:36] - Amy: Not entirely sure. Our parent company (I think that's an accurate term) is based in NYC and I guess decided to have a party Thursday night for some reason and we decided (just today) to rent a bus and go to the party.
-Paul[2006-04-05 16:38:49] - Amy: Yeah, NYC. The place where the party is at is called Pressure. -Paul
[2006-04-05 16:38:12] - paul: what the hell kind of party is this anyway? O_o -amy
[2006-04-05 16:37:30] - paul: so where in ny? -amy
[2006-04-05 16:37:26] - also depends where in new york... is it NYC? even NYC spans a fairly large area, esp. time-wise, what with all the water and all. -amy
[2006-04-05 16:34:28] - a: a little further than richmond?? I'm not sure of the distances but I can barely believe that. the longest it's ever taken me to drive to richmond (except the time our car broke down) is two hours, whereas the shortest time I've ever made it to NYC is like 4.5 hours - vinnie
[2006-04-05 16:29:33] - a: didn't a few of us once drive from bburg->dc and back for a concert? - aba
[2006-04-05 16:18:09] - oops, right, whisky, my bad. thank you, mr-title-fixing-person. ~a
[2006-04-05 16:08:58] - a: Yeah, craziness, like I said.
-Paul[2006-04-05 16:06:12] - oh wow! ~a
[2006-04-05 16:02:35] - a: Well, I think we're planning on leaving here around 3:00 in the afternoon so... -Paul
[2006-04-05 15:54:39] - depends on traffic, but 95 goes pretty fast (without traffic, i average about the same on 95 and 81; and i average much slower on 66 than either 95 or 81) ~a
[2006-04-05 15:53:15] - a: Maybe not in terms of distance, but in terms of time I think it might take as long to get there as it does to Blacksburg. -Paul
[2006-04-05 15:52:35] - although i'll admit i've never been to-and-back-from any of the listed places in one day. ~a
[2006-04-05 15:51:50] - new york is not that far away. not as far as blacksburg or virginia beach or pittsburgh. it's a little further than richmond. ~a
[2006-04-05 15:44:14] - Holy crap, I think the company is actually planning on going to New York tomorrow afternoon for a party in the evening and then driving back the same day... -Paul
[2006-04-05 15:41:37] - xpovos: yeah, i'm not making a comment on sirius at all, just price targets -dave
[2006-04-05 15:25:23] - dave: Naturally, people are optimistic. And there's a lot to be said for a buyer's bias, but I feel confident that Sirius stock over the course of the year should not drop below a reasonable loss threshold and has a strong potential for significant gain, since the subscriber base is solidified and they're pretty well set with content. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-05 14:08:44] - xpovos: like IBM is currently at around 84 and it has an average analyst target of 96 -dave
[2006-04-05 14:06:28] - xpovos: be careful about those target numbers. Almost every stock has a target that is above what it currently is. -dave
[2006-04-05 14:05:09] - amy: woah, something is voluntarily freeing up space on your drive? That can't be good, hehe -dave
[2006-04-05 14:03:09] - I'm more concerned about cash-flow than radio content. But the potential for 78% growth is not to be mocked. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-05 13:56:59] - Xpovos: Yeah, I still think Sirius has a good shot of overtaking XM because of the content they have lined up (and not just Stern) and that's why I still believe in it. -Paul
[2006-04-05 13:39:37] - Paul: Everything I read still says longterm growth for Sirius, with predictions ranging from 7.50 to 9 per share. Growth is acceptable. Patience is rewarded. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-05 13:38:19] - Paul: Sheesh, glad I didn't invest in CREAF after all, it's down almost 10% today. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-05 13:18:02] - Xpovos: Well, if it makes you feel any better, I have Sirius stock as well so if it goes down, we both lose.
-Paul[2006-04-05 13:17:38] - a: That page actually seems a little short to me. Maybe it's because the income tax is so talked about among libertarians.
-Paul[2006-04-05 13:16:07] - a: Yeah, I've read a lot about how the income tax is illegal and whatnot. Regardless of whether their arguments make sense, the courts have roundly rejected them so the point is kinda moot. -Paul
[2006-04-05 12:39:46] - Paul: Don't worry, I don't blame the messenger for bad advice. Plus, if I take a capital gains loss, it can help offset a possible gain later. Besides, static is not decrease, I've lost very little so far. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-05 12:32:25] - ~s/unbearably/unusably/ -amy
[2006-04-05 12:31:56] - dave: well... yesterday it started becoming unbearably slow. e.g., when i left the office at 5 PM, the clock had been displaying "4:40 PM" for twenty minutes. to abbrv the story, we discovered lack of free space on my hard drive, i cleared about 3 GB so there were 3 gigs free... and then i looked again and now there are 30 gigs free. -amy
[2006-04-05 12:30:57] - even worse... i have a feeling i broke my computer with the stuff i wrote -_- -amy
[2006-04-05 12:19:00] - amy: what's it doing? -dave
[2006-04-05 12:13:53] - income tax witholding didn't start until ww2. so our current system as it is today is barely 65ish years old. - mig
[2006-04-05 12:09:05] - i think there is something wrong with my computer ;_; -amy
[2006-04-05 12:03:45] - paul: yeah, the 16th amendment page of wikipedia is pretty interesting, especially the controversy section. ~a
[2006-04-05 12:00:06] - a: You didn't know that? Yeah, the income tax is a relatively recent thing, especially the income tax as it is today. -Paul
[2006-04-05 11:51:16] - we've had federal income taxes for less than a hundred years?! in 2013, we should boycott federal income taxes for the centenial. ~a
[2006-04-05 11:50:00] - Davos: Right on both accounts about the pr0n. -Paul
[2006-04-05 11:49:28] - Xpovos: I accept no blame if Sirius goes down.
-Paul[2006-04-05 11:37:58] - the FCC has been trying to get regulatory control over cable content, but they haven't been successful yet. - mig
[2006-04-05 11:05:02] - Paul: I would think so, isn't there a Playboy channel? -dave
[2006-04-05 10:50:55] - Paul: It is, which is why you can get porn channels, and softcore on HBO, etc. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-05 10:50:12] - Paul: Siris has been essentially stagnant since I purchased it, but some of my other stocks have been losing. The ~7% gain is my prior investments for which I can claim little personal ability other than in selecting the correct mutual fund blend. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-05 10:46:50] - aba: Which would seem to mean that cable is allowed to play uncensored stuff to their heart's content. -Paul
[2006-04-05 10:46:22] - aba: Ok, well, if I understand things correctly (which I may not), I don't think the FCC has the authority to regulate cable because the signal is carried over a private network as opposed to public airwaves. -Paul
[2006-04-05 10:43:32] - paul: i have no clue. that's why i asked here.
- aba[2006-04-05 10:35:26] - a: Ah, you're right, AMD isn't down much this quarter. It's probably not as drastic as 20% then. It's probably more around 5-10%. Symantec, sirius, valueclick and others haven't been kind to me yet.
-Paul[2006-04-05 10:23:35] - apple's stock went up 6% today. ~a
[2006-04-05 10:22:58] - oh, yeah. that's a big difference. ~a
[2006-04-05 10:22:43] - dave: over how much time? ~a
[2006-04-05 10:22:34] - a: errr, a 4% for this month return. so if you can do that every month of the year it's a 48% return -dave
[2006-04-05 10:20:38] - a: it costs me 2.5k worth of margin to sell those, meaning I get a 46% return on that margin -dave
[2006-04-05 10:19:46] - paul: really, what did you lose on? amd stayed flat this quarter (although they lost 20% in the past two months, grumble) ~a
[2006-04-05 10:18:53] - a: meaning, sold someone (for $100) the ability to sell me 500 shares of AAPL at 47.5 per share between now and 4/21 -dave
[2006-04-05 10:17:18] - dave: ah, options. how don't i understand thee. ~a
[2006-04-05 10:14:46] - Xpovos: Especially since I think my portfolio is down something like 20% in 1Q06
-Paul[2006-04-05 10:14:41] - a: yeah, i watch it every day cuz I sold the 47.5 puts on it. -dave
[2006-04-05 10:14:08] - Xpovos: ++ to what a said. -Paul
[2006-04-05 10:05:48] - dave: and their stock jumped 6% this morning. ~a
[2006-04-05 10:04:23] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060405-6524.html Apple unveils official support for booting Windows -dave
[2006-04-05 09:47:34] - aba: Well, cable television isn't regulated by the FCC, right? (An actual question since I'm not sure whether it is or not). -Paul
[2006-04-05 09:44:53] - http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/04/paperweight.explosion.ap/index.html exploding paperweight costs teacher his hand - aaron
[2006-04-05 09:15:42] - http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060405/od_nm/clash_dc singing along to the Clash makes you a potential terrorist. - mig
[2006-04-05 09:05:58] - mig: well i just looked at the program description and it says "electronica (uncensored)" so i guess it is OK for them to not bleep out words. - aba
[2006-04-05 08:57:15] - aba: maybe no one has complained yet. - mig
[2006-04-05 08:56:16] - http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060404/netflix_blockbuster.html netflix sues blockbuster for violating its patents with its competing service. amazing that business models can be patentable. - mig
[2006-04-05 08:34:32] - i'm listening to one of the music stations from my cable provider, and i just noticed that the songs are completely uncensored. are these channels not regulated by the fcc? - aba
[2006-04-05 08:22:39] - 7% on your stocks? that's pretty good. that's 31% per year if you can keep it up. ~a
[2006-04-04 23:17:18] - 1Q06 = 6.99%. Not too shabby. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-04 17:33:59] - some dude playing harmonica and doing beat box at the same time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5XCH8KCUGc&search=harmonica%20beat%20box -sam
[2006-04-04 13:31:42] - dave: i think it means that they still get their money withheld from their paychecks. or it may mean stuff like medicare and social security. - mig
[2006-04-04 13:25:08] - wiki < hitchhikers guide. ~a
[2006-04-04 13:24:43] - dave: nope. ~a
[2006-04-04 13:05:02] - a: that section of the wiki article doesn't really explain at all what those taxes are, hehe - whether they end up paying more or less taxes -dave
[2006-04-04 12:25:28] - it's even more fun (for some reason i can't explain) to revert the vandalism that i agree with. iraq war: he/she changed "ongoing conflict" to "illegal, endless war" and "Coalition of the willing" to "axis of evil". ~a
[2006-04-04 12:21:53] - ah, i love reverting vandalism on wikipedia. it's so much easier for me to revert than it was for the dumbass to add it. ~a
[2006-04-04 12:04:38] - dave/paul: "Residents of the island do not pay federal income tax on income from island sources, although they pay federal payroll taxes, which have a particularly heavy impact on Puerto Rico's relatively low-income workers." (wikipedia) ~a
[2006-04-04 11:30:58] - Dave: Freeloading bastards.
-Paul[2006-04-04 11:28:41] - those who want their money back: move to puerto rico. US citizens, but no income tax etc cuz they're not a state -dave
[2006-04-04 11:24:40] - i would also like my money back ... however much it is. - mig
[2006-04-04 11:24:35] - it's geared towards very active traders though - $10 monthly min commission. However, all the commissions are a ton cheaper. -dave
[2006-04-04 11:21:33] - interactive brokers gives 4% yearly interest on everything over 10k -dave
[2006-04-04 11:03:50] - a: Heh, I want my $30k or whatever. -Paul
[2006-04-04 10:43:23] - paul: heh. i want my $5000. ~a
[2006-04-04 10:42:52] - a: That's not bad. -Paul
[2006-04-04 10:42:18] - paul: no not per year. total. 2003-present. ~a
[2006-04-04 10:26:22] - a: Per year? -Paul
[2006-04-04 10:21:08] - of course that doesn't take into account lots of things (the first one that comes to mind is that many non-tax-payers end up shouldering the burden of the war through costs from corperate taxes) ~a
[2006-04-04 10:19:06] - or, in reality, after the added interest on the national debt, it'll probably end up being at least twice that. ~a
[2006-04-04 10:18:17] - by my rudementary calculations (total costs / tax returns * (apx taxes we pay / avg tax return size)) we each have paid over $5000 total, to be in iraq. ~a
[2006-04-04 08:29:15] - \title 06:06:06 06/06/06
[2006-04-03 15:03:06] - xpovos: i think it's on your average daily balance. ~a
[2006-04-03 14:57:32] - a: Unfathomable. I had done the calculation a few times and it never came out right, that would be why. But $0.15 doesn't make any sense on the full balance, either, unless it's closer to a tenth of a percent than a percent (annaul). So I'm still stumped. Maybe the interest transaction thingie will tell me tomorrow. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-03 14:55:58] - 15c on $10 in one month would be 18% per year (since they usually amortize these kinds of things per month, it's not 19.5%, which is 101.5%12-100%) ~a
[2006-04-03 14:53:18] - xpovos: i was talking about per year. ~a
[2006-04-03 14:45:04] - Looks like about a point and a half, since I had $10 left over after my purchases, and that would account for the 15c. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-03 14:40:25] - a: I was fully expecting 0% myself, which is why the mystery $0.15 freaked me out. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-03 14:37:26] - considering many stock brokers charge monthly fees, 0% would actually be a good thing. ~a
[2006-04-03 14:35:10] - xpovos: the rate isn't fixed but it's usually less than 1%. it kicks the boa and bb&t savings account interest rates' butts but not really in competition with the "real" savings account rates. not to shabby considering i would have accepted 0%. ~a
[2006-04-03 14:12:28] - It's not dividends because I havn't had anything long enough, and I figured there'd be a message if it were an overcharge, plus I can't see how that could happen, since it was limit orders, and the prices charged were accurate. So: interest on the balance. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-03 14:07:25] - Alright, it's interest then. I couldn't find any indication that they gave interest, though. Any clue what the rate is? Because all my transactions occured right around the end of the month, I can't tell what the balance was when they applied the interest. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-03 14:03:08] - xpovos: so: it could be dividends, or interest on your balance, or it could (also) be a refund on an overcharged stock exchange fee (i've seen that before) ~a
[2006-04-03 14:02:26] - xpovos: you get interest on your account. ~a
[2006-04-03 13:50:19] - Xpovos: Not entirely sure, do you have any stocks which give dividends? Maybe they gave you some interest for money you've had with them that wasn't invested in stocks... -Paul
[2006-04-03 13:47:45] - Paul: There's $0.15 extra in my Scottrade account that I cannot figure. What is going on? -- Xpovos
[2006-04-03 13:46:36] - There are no images, so we don't know how accurate they are. If they're only mildly representative, then I can see people (even gamer-type people) not getting the reference. And gamer-types are still a minority. The rest is just hysteria. -- Xpovos
[2006-04-03 13:14:18] - aba: What if you saw a bob-ombs scattered around?
-Paul[2006-04-03 13:11:35] - xpovos: i was surprised that tons of people didn't recognize the boxes! it would make my day if i was walking around and saw super mario blocks scattered around. - aba
[2006-04-03 12:01:38] - http://nytimes.com/2006/04/02/world/asia/02robot.html?hp&ex=1144036800&en=d4364be9077f01e1&ei=5094&partner=homepage an article about korea's plan for robotics in the future, which also has some interesting info about korea's technology that i didn't know - aaron
[2006-04-03 10:54:44] - aba: God bless America(n paranoia) -- Xpovos
[2006-04-03 10:19:37] - dave: don't you mean wednesday of THIS week? ~a
[2006-04-03 10:10:11] - Sam: Firstly, she was injured. Secondly, how far did Parker get in the tournament? -Paul
[2006-04-03 10:05:05] - dave: actually in a month (minus a day), we'll get that again in european time .p -amy
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