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[2001-02-27 12:10:00] - http://www.feedmag.com/templates/default.php3?a_id=1626
[2001-02-27 12:10:00] - using your mentality, it's a leap of faith to assume anything - vinnie
[2001-02-27 12:09:00] - it's not a leap of faith to assume that 1+1=2. It's what we've defined them to be - vinnie
[2001-02-27 12:09:00] - im not' saying it is true. I just have an easier time believing something I understand and can see examples of - vinnie
[2001-02-27 12:05:00] - True, but it could be considered a leap of faith to assume that 1+1=2 -paul
[2001-02-27 12:05:00] - religion admits to being based mostly on faith, with a little bit of supporting evidence - vinnie
[2001-02-27 12:04:00] - the difference is that science and math is mostly based on observation of nature, with of course some guesswork - vinnie
[2001-02-27 11:45:00] - http://pemtropics.mit.edu/~jcho/spam/sex.html Spam sex haikus - aaron
[2001-02-27 11:45:00] - I dunno, I agree with that page. There really isn't that big a difference in believing in math and faith in a religion -paul
[2001-02-27 11:30:00] - go aaron. good for you. - aba
[2001-02-27 11:30:00] - http://www.whirledbank.org/church/confess.html haha - aba
[2001-02-27 11:27:00] - There are two people in my room, I can calculate... With my MATH brain... that if I leave, only one person will be here - Aaron
[2001-02-27 11:27:00] - I know, the guy's a moron. I've emailed him and posted to his message board - aaron
[2001-02-27 11:16:00] - so wouldn't that mean that at least some math is true, right? - aba
[2001-02-27 11:15:00] - the thing that i don't get about that math page is that we can come up with real world examples for things like addition and subtraction. - aba
[2001-02-27 10:46:00] - yay, it works! - vinnie
[2001-02-27 10:44:00] - let's see if this program really works - vinnie
[2001-02-27 08:49:00] - nifty program
[2001-02-27 07:33:00] - i don't want to go to class
~a[2001-02-27 02:45:00] - http://www.riaa.org/pdf/year_end_2000.pdf - mig
[2001-02-27 02:43:00] - http://www.arancidamoeba.com/mrr/problemwithmusic.html - mig
[2001-02-27 01:31:00] - why is it everytime i hear about the RIAA the more and more i hate them. - mig
[2001-02-27 01:27:00] - ok, if you didn't get the 2 reasons vader will cease to be the badest villian in the universe, here's a hint: who's in the picture? - mig
[2001-02-26 23:36:00] - Hurray for math! -paul
[2001-02-26 23:19:00] - http://members.nbci.com/Jynx723/math.html -jdb
[2001-02-26 23:14:00] - Nope, doesn't go very well with gray at all -paul
[2001-02-26 23:13:00] - Does it? - Aaron
[2001-02-26 23:12:00] - I know, it doesn't go well with gray, does it?
[2001-02-26 22:44:00] - Ew.... you need a new color Aaron -paul
[2001-02-26 22:42:00] - Stu - aaron
[2001-02-26 22:37:00] - What do you call a leper in a jacuzzi? - Aaron
[2001-02-26 22:37:00] - Divide and conquer eh? I'm surprised they didn't assign people of the opposite sex... -paul
[2001-02-26 22:30:00] - nope, her name was lindsey reed. maybe they paired us off with people? - aba
[2001-02-26 22:17:00] - Not Becky Darden by any chance was it? -paul
[2001-02-26 22:00:00] - i got that one too, but then i got another one from one of the girls there (i got it tonight). - aba
[2001-02-26 21:59:00] - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010226/od/stench_dc_1.html
[2001-02-26 21:33:00] - I got an email from Dan Hall, but that was 5 days ago -paul
[2001-02-26 21:12:00] - did anyone else receive a personalized email from one of the pizza people? i just did and thought it was kind of weird. - aba
[2001-02-26 21:12:00] - talk about how you thought it was bad that they kind of decieved people.
- aba[2001-02-26 20:44:00] - Anyone got any good ideas of what to talk about? -paul
[2001-02-26 20:44:00] - Hey everyone! I need help. I am getting interviewed tomorrow about what I think about the "I agree with Dave" campaign and I don't know what to say. -paul
[2001-02-26 20:42:00] - http://www.salon.com/sex/world/2001/02/26/tintin/index.html
[2001-02-26 20:20:00] - http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/ <-- veryvery strange
[2001-02-26 20:08:00] - http://research.studentadvantage.com/ <-- good research site
[2001-02-26 20:05:00] - http://conversatron.com/convers.py?topic=31464
[2001-02-26 19:56:00] - http://conversatron.com/convers.py?topic=31205
[2001-02-26 19:55:00] - http://conversatron.com/convers.py?topic=31184
[2001-02-26 19:39:00] - http://truemeaningoflife.com/wisdom.php?topid=13944
[2001-02-26 17:53:00] - adrian, you'll have to fix that one too - boing
[2001-02-26 17:53:00] - http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/02/26/1812213&mode=nocomment - boing
[2001-02-26 17:41:00] - i don't get that 2 reasons about vader thing. it says to click, but nothing happens. am i dumb or something? - aba
[2001-02-26 17:35:00] - yay for tmbg! - aba
[2001-02-26 17:33:00] - http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/02/25/pardonedkiller.ap/index.html
[2001-02-26 16:10:00] - http://www.dailyradar.com/features/directhit_feature_page_1284_1.html
[2001-02-26 16:06:00] - http://www.dailyradar.com/features/directhit_feature_page_2343_1.html
[2001-02-26 16:05:00] - http://www.dailyradar.com/features/directhit_feature_page_2356_1.html
[2001-02-26 15:18:00] - YAY Pierce is HOT! 7.6 is very good, good job Pierce!
[2001-02-26 15:14:00] - PAUL I am glad you got your project done! I knew you could do it - aaron
[2001-02-26 15:13:00] - http://www.airboard.com.au/frameset/seeit/see.html - aaron
[2001-02-26 14:57:00] - i am glad your thing works, paul . . . so the lower case 'a' was a segment, right? ~a
[2001-02-26 14:54:00] - pierce, "6083 - 2-19 11:25p" is all i have released regarding the program i have been working on (before you went into your whole win32 thing
) ~a[2001-02-26 13:38:00] - horray for paul! - mig
[2001-02-26 13:05:00] - It works! Thank you very very very very very very very very very very much Adrian and everyone else who helped! ! -paul
[2001-02-26 11:00:00] - i posted that one already! - mig
[2001-02-26 10:57:00] - That's nothing... http://www.dailyradar.com/peepshow/2001-02-12.html - boing
[2001-02-26 10:55:00] - http://www.dailyradar.com/peepshow/index.html - mig
[2001-02-26 10:54:00] - http://www.theonion.com/onion3706/nigeria_elects_black_pres.html - mig
[2001-02-26 10:14:00] - what is the opengl program you are working on, a? - boing
[2001-02-26 09:20:00] - It's due today actually
I have no choice in the matter though since my bread board is dead. -paul[2001-02-26 08:02:00] - i wouldn't risk the low grade. when is it due? i can help if it isn't due tomorrow. ~a
[2001-02-26 07:29:00] - Does anyone here know if it is ok to skip the entire wiring portion of on ECPE project? Is it possible to do that and still pass the class? -paul
[2001-02-26 03:51:00] - and because it is not and will not ever use any of the benifits of opengl, the seccond release will probably be using regular windows programming via pierce's new page ~a
[2001-02-26 03:50:00] - i will give out the source code to the opengl program i am working on when it comes out ~a
[2001-02-26 03:41:00] - http://boing.dhs.org/win32/ - boing
[2001-02-26 03:41:00] - I'm writing a page about learning the Win32 API, if you want to read it as I write it, or (even better) if you want to contribute, just tell me. - boing
[2001-02-25 23:46:00] - just remember, people, pass me links! i love reading all kinds of weird stuff on the net.
- aba[2001-02-25 23:45:00] - http://www.msnbc.com/news/535681.asp
[2001-02-25 23:09:00] - travis nemo mig boing paul vinnie xpovos a
[2001-02-25 18:05:00] - food is planned! - mig
[2001-02-25 18:05:00] - http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=103121 <-- listen to the asf files at the beginning
[2001-02-25 17:59:00] - someone plan food! -dave
[2001-02-25 17:59:00] - food! -dave
[2001-02-25 17:41:00] - hmmm... pretty inactive this weekend. - mig
[2001-02-25 10:47:00] - as soon as i get back, i'm going to send out an email about something my mom is planning at our house over spring break. - aba
[2001-02-25 09:41:00] - we should watch trigun! -dave
[2001-02-25 09:40:00] - i don't think anyone else is gonna be back home during spring break but us too, so we should def. do stuff -dave
[2001-02-25 09:39:00] - yes, you need to plan something paul! -dave
[2001-02-25 03:14:00] - Stupid ECPE project, we need to plan something to do this week before Spring Break (or maybe even during Spring Break) -paul
[2001-02-25 01:56:00] - You aren't even using my computer! -paul
[2001-02-25 01:55:00] - see, happened to me too - travis
[2001-02-25 01:55:00] - no, i think it's your computer - travis
[2001-02-25 01:55:00] - no, i think it's your computer - travis
[2001-02-25 01:55:00] - My computer does not stink, your messages posted twice because you pressed "enter" twice! -paul
[2001-02-24 22:27:00] - haha! - travis
[2001-02-24 22:27:00] - paul's computer stinks. posts everything twice -dave
[2001-02-24 22:27:00] - you gave away my color! -dave
[2001-02-24 22:27:00] - you gave away my color! -dave
[2001-02-24 22:26:00] - what's my color now?! -dave
[2001-02-24 22:26:00] - what's my color now?! -dave
[2001-02-24 22:25:00] - hehe, i'm not at uva - travis
[2001-02-24 20:41:00] - And this is a perfect time to move on up, while everyone else is away at UVA
-paul[2001-02-24 20:41:00] - I'm sorry, I forgot my pledge -paul
[2001-02-24 18:08:00] - paul?! number five? ~a
[2001-02-24 18:07:00] - not me ~a
[2001-02-24 13:28:00] - Anyone else here get an email from WTOB channel 2 about "I agree with Dave" ? -paul
[2001-02-24 12:19:00] - and why not?
[2001-02-24 03:46:00] - All is quiet on the message board today. Just as well, I'm in no condition to argue right now. -- Xpovos
[2001-02-23 23:04:00] - 7.5 now, thanks everyone - boing
[2001-02-23 19:32:00] - 7.2, not bad Pierce
-paul[2001-02-23 14:29:00] - rate me high, everyone!
- boing[2001-02-23 12:57:00] - i took that picture ~a
[2001-02-23 12:57:00] - hahahahaha . . . that is soo funny, pierce ~a
[2001-02-23 12:47:00] - i wanna be jenna's bitch too
- travis[2001-02-23 12:20:00] - dammit - boing
[2001-02-23 12:19:00] - http://www.amihotornot.com/r/?eid=OLOSNZ&key=VBN
- boing[2001-02-23 04:03:00] - http://www.salon.com/sex/feature/2001/01/17/jenna_1/index.html
[2001-02-23 03:39:00] - Night all - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:38:00] - i don't hate you i just disagree with you, and with that i go to sleep -mig
[2001-02-23 03:38:00] - i will leave on this final note: who decides these morals: individuals, with an opinion on what is right and wrong. so really there defined by one being and other beings adopt them. - mig
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[2001-02-23 03:35:00] - Just to take a score... anymore in the room hate me currently? - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:35:00] - Morals of society are defined by society. If you do not conform then within that society you are amoral. In america and most of the world beating an old lady with a club is amoral behaviour. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:34:00] - very well i will -mig
[2001-02-23 03:34:00] - morality is just a way to view right and wrong. what is right and what is wrong differs from being to being. - mig
[2001-02-23 03:34:00] - Mig- Andrew says sleep on it and think it over in the morning - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:33:00] - whoops no = yes - mig
[2001-02-23 03:33:00] - does that person have no morals. no, they just have different ones. - mig
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[2001-02-23 03:32:00] - maybe your morality says no. someone else might say yes it's ok. - mig
[2001-02-23 03:30:00] - Morality in that case says no. But Survival of the Fittest would say yes. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:30:00] - Decision are not always functions of morality. If I have eggs or pancakes it isn't a moral decision. If I go left or right it isn't a moral decision. A moral decision is whether I beat an old lady and take her purse for the money. -nemo
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[2001-02-23 03:28:00] - yes, but if animals can learn, then animals can therfeore make decisions, and if they can make decisions, therefore have to have some kind of moral system, since they don't react the same in all given situations - mig
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[2001-02-23 03:26:00] - Compassion and morality don't exist in animals. The cat doesn't let the mouse go. It eats it. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:25:00] - okay, it's been surreal
- travis[2001-02-23 03:24:00] -
[2001-02-23 03:24:00] - and animals can think. - mig
[2001-02-23 03:23:00] - Survival of the fittest is not a moral. It operates on a sub concious level. And by natural process. Morality is a function of concious thought. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:22:00] - Travis... I need to get to bed as bad as you. So lets just put this off for maybe another time? I had tons of fun. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:21:00] - some could say survival of the fittest is a moral - mig
[2001-02-23 03:21:00] - We have some instictual drives. Propigate, defend young, and such. But a large portion of what we are is moral fiber so to speak. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:20:00] - Because of morals. We are not instinctual creatures. We are moral creatures. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:20:00] - This has been tons of fun I do agree... - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:20:00] - right, so i'm saying why do we bother with keeping them around if it's against our intincts? - travis
[2001-02-23 03:19:00] - We keep the deformed and the inept we provide charity for them. This is not instinctual. Instict says to let them die and clean the gene pool of the deformity. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:19:00] - good night all - vinnie
[2001-02-23 03:19:00] - yeah, i'll head to bed also, have fun taking number one paul - travis
[2001-02-23 03:19:00] - animals have brains to. they have the capacity to learn, and thus the ability to make decisions, and thus the capacity for thought - mig
[2001-02-23 03:18:00] - i have to think about that some more, but for now, it's bedtime for me - vinnie
[2001-02-23 03:18:00] - Not killing is not an inflated instinct. What instict does it inflate? Instictually we should not care for the old. We should not let the old hold positions of power. We are backwards from instinct. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:18:00] - thanks vinnie - travis
[2001-02-23 03:18:00] - but who's to say we're not just putting a name to something because we have the speech to be able to, animals could still have the same ideas - travis
[2001-02-23 03:18:00] - i mean, with the inflated instincts comment - vinnie
[2001-02-23 03:18:00] - so animals don't have a large societal group? - mig
[2001-02-23 03:17:00] - you just blew my mind, travis, and I'm not joking - vinnie
[2001-02-23 03:17:00] - good point travis - mig
[2001-02-23 03:17:00] - Yes travis and our morals seperate us from the animals. They are a human invention, and what allow to have such a large societal group. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:16:00] - but in that way, all morals are just inflated instincts - travis
[2001-02-23 03:16:00] - for a brief time - vinnie
[2001-02-23 03:16:00] - Sad, sad day -paul
[2001-02-23 03:16:00] - I'm below PIERCE!? -paul
[2001-02-23 03:16:00] - was - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:16:00] - wow, travis taking the number 1 spot - vinnie
[2001-02-23 03:16:00] - Agreed -paul
[2001-02-23 03:15:00] - Protecting your young is not moral it is a function of survival and passing on your genes. That is instinctual not a moral concious decision.
[2001-02-23 03:15:00] - why do we care the elderly and weak? cause we have this weird morals that help the existence of people that drag down the overall health of the society, i know that sounds mean, but it's the truth - travis
[2001-02-23 03:14:00] - they may have different morals then us, but that doesn't mean the morals don't exist. - mig
[2001-02-23 03:14:00] - travis our society is not the same as animals. Animals don't care for the elderly or the weak. So while our societies are similar they are not equivical. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:13:00] - What came first? The thought, or the language it was framed in? -paul
[2001-02-23 03:13:00] - so now we're taking a sci-fi book as fact? - travis
[2001-02-23 03:13:00] - i did read 1984. people in there became dumber because vocabulary was the only thing they knew how to use. animals may use something else. - mig
[2001-02-23 03:12:00] - animals do have morals, like protect your kids and help the rest of your group - travis
[2001-02-23 03:12:00] - Who's to say we have morals? -paul
[2001-02-23 03:12:00] - Mig Thought is restricted by vocabulary... read 1984. Newspeak was created to limit the thinking capacity of the people. They are related. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:12:00] - as much as people like to decry it, might still makes right, somewhat, otherwise wars wouldn't happen - travis
[2001-02-23 03:11:00] - who's to say animals don't have morals? we can't make that assumption - mig
[2001-02-23 03:11:00] - morals may complicate the society, but the basis of our society is the same as animals - travis
[2001-02-23 03:11:00] - were not really more advanced societal, even if we wanna think so - travis
[2001-02-23 03:10:00] - We have more DNA.... whoppee -paul
[2001-02-23 03:10:00] - No... All I am stating is that you can't compare humans to other animals in a moralistic and societal sense because we are much more complicated then other animals. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:10:00] - nemo. i'm going to say this one more time. just because you don't understand a form of speech, or it isn't efficient does not mean you can make assumptions about it - mig
[2001-02-23 03:09:00] - i'll try to get back to my original point, that if a person is capable of having an advantage over someone else, they deserve to take full advantage of it, like animals do - travis
[2001-02-23 03:09:00] - vocabulary large enough. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:09:00] - Mig. I am going to say this one more time. The sounds that an animal can produce are not effective enough to create a vocabulary for extensive communication. No animals have exhibited a basis for a sign language extensive enough to create a - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:08:00] - I agree with Dave
-paul[2001-02-23 03:08:00] - i have to agree with travis - mig
[2001-02-23 03:07:00] - night - boing
[2001-02-23 03:07:00] - has it worked for us? like i said, we seem to be best at killing ourselves and everything else - travis
[2001-02-23 03:07:00] - I'm outta here... good talking to you all
:) - boing[2001-02-23 03:07:00] - so why base all animal skills against our supposed off kilter abilities? - travis
[2001-02-23 03:06:00] - not necessarily, but it's vorked for us, travis - boing
[2001-02-23 03:06:00] - but just because they don't doesn't mean they don't have a concept of some of the things we do. - mig
[2001-02-23 03:06:00] - ugh... the arrival of the CS-UNDG digest has signaled me that it is 3am. I should sleep. - boing
[2001-02-23 03:06:00] - well, does that imply that our higher intelligence is actually so good? - travis
[2001-02-23 03:06:00] - I think telepathy is more efficient -paul
[2001-02-23 03:05:00] - I don't mean to offend folks. Just the general scientific concensious is that while some animals are intelligent they don't think the way we do or communicate the way we do. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:05:00] - I agree that we are restricting our natural course of action, travis. what does that mean? - boing
[2001-02-23 03:05:00] - I am thinking of following suit. this conversation has lasted a lot longer than I expected - vinnie
[2001-02-23 03:05:00] - how do we know that? we don't understand animal communication. we don't know what animals think, but we know they think. if they can think they can form thoughts and ideas. we are making too many assumptions about animals here - mig
[2001-02-23 03:04:00] - I'm not saying it isn't valid. I am saying that animals don't sign in the way human sign language works. Also I am saying that speech isthe most effective and efficient form of communication. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:04:00] - I think Adrian is hot!
-paul[2001-02-23 03:04:00] - hahahaha
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[2001-02-23 03:03:00] - kinda funny that aaron's the only one asleep out of all of us - travis
[2001-02-23 03:03:00] - "~a" is cool, does that mean "a" is hot?
[2001-02-23 03:02:00] - thanks, vinnie
~a[2001-02-23 03:02:00] - Communicate the CONCEPT of god mig you misread. - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:02:00] - had we evolved somewhere where it was easier to transmit light than sound, we might have appendiges better suited to visual communication
[2001-02-23 03:02:00] - just because it is not as effective does not mean that it does not exist or is not a valid form of communication - mig
[2001-02-23 03:01:00] - i'm not saying animals are smarter, pierce, i'm just saying we need to remember that when we make rules for society, we're restricting our naturual course of action - travis
[2001-02-23 03:01:00] - nemo, I agree that sign language is not as efficient for humans, but that's because our special lineage evolved to communicate with sound in the dense brush of the jungle (where visibility was limited). - boing
[2001-02-23 03:01:00] - hey, the border changes based on who's in the lead! that's so cool! - vinnie
[2001-02-23 03:01:00] - Mig, they can communicate as well, however, they can't always communicate EVERY word that is in the spoken language. I mean without spelling it could a signer say zippidee do dah? - nemo
[2001-02-23 03:01:00] - can't use body language to communicate to god? i thought he was "all-knowing". guess not - mig
[2001-02-23 03:00:00] - you can't really communicate those ideas with speech very effectively either, as evidenced by thousands of years of debate - travis
[2001-02-23 02:59:00] - but if it's slower than it's not as efficient. just though i'd bring that up - vinnie
[2001-02-23 02:59:00] - a simpleton might only be able to burn down a building, while a genius may be able to build a bomb to destroy a city. that doesn't mean that the simpleton is smarter - boing
[2001-02-23 02:59:00] - hehe, right on paul, we just kill off the other animals so we're the only ones there
- travis[2001-02-23 02:59:00] - What we get from non verbal communication is minor and does not express extreme thoughts. Like you can't use body language to communicate god. Or to communicate king, at least not effectively. That is why charades is a challenge. - nemo
[2001-02-23 02:59:00] - just curious . . . nemo, how did you find this page? ~a
[2001-02-23 02:59:00] - but they do have a form of communication, we don't understand it, so we assume it's inferrior. - mig
[2001-02-23 02:58:00] - perhaps better was not what i meant to say. you have a point, travis - vinnie
[2001-02-23 02:58:00] - people who use sign language can communicate with people just as well without speech, albiet a little slower, but just as well. - mig
[2001-02-23 02:58:00] - Yeah. We're humans. We're better because we can kill more stuff! -paul
[2001-02-23 02:58:00] - Mig it isn't as effective as speech and animals do not exhibit any form of sign language and with the intensive studies we would of foudn somethingthat external The closest to thatis the bees - nemo
[2001-02-23 02:57:00] - I agree that just because we can't understand it doesn't mean animals don't speak. But believing it anyway is comparable to a religious belief
[2001-02-23 02:57:00] - how is speech the only effective way to communicate? so much of what we communicate comes from non speech stuff - travis
[2001-02-23 02:57:00] - yeah, I wish I had my psych book. it does support what nemo is saying - vinnie
[2001-02-23 02:57:00] - I need to get used to signing - nemo
[2001-02-23 02:56:00] - not all of those animals, and besides, we're doing a pretty good job of killing ourselves and the planet off, so how are we better than animals that have coexisted for millions of years? - travis
[2001-02-23 02:56:00] - so sign languages isn't a valid form of communicating? - mig
[2001-02-23 02:56:00] - The communication has to be speech travis because (unless you are proposing psi powers) speech is the only effective way to communicate.
[2001-02-23 02:55:00] - well, if you believe in evolution, it's because we were those animals at one point, travis - vinnie
[2001-02-23 02:55:00] - yeah, what do we know about death that animals don't? we created religion for that, and no one agrees on that - travis
[2001-02-23 02:55:00] - They might know more, but refuse to tell us
-paul[2001-02-23 02:55:00] - one of the occurances that many anthropologists believe defines the beginning of civilization was fossils of an ancient funeral ceremony - boing
[2001-02-23 02:55:00] - All we know about death is once we die we cease living. that's all we are certain about, and animals know this too. - mig
[2001-02-23 02:55:00] - my main point about us being animals is that they have been here for much, much longer than we have, so why are we assuming we're so much better than them? - travis
[2001-02-23 02:54:00] - They're probably saying the same about us
-paul[2001-02-23 02:54:00] - And instict is not concious thought mig. A horse runs into a burning building because of instinct. And brains don't tell it to leave. - nemo
[2001-02-23 02:54:00] - I agree with nemo that they "know" about the occurance. It holds no abstract meaning to them that anyone has been able to discern - boing
[2001-02-23 02:54:00] - who says all communication has to be speech? - travis
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