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[2008-07-10 21:03:59] - yay! 7th place
~a[2008-07-10 17:19:36] - I argue that voting "yes" on this bill probably bought Obama some political capital among the terrorism-focused swing voters at no cost to the causes he represents. That it seems to be coming at a significant cost to his reputation and following is notable, but not meaningful as a reflection of him as a candidate. - pierce
[2008-07-10 17:17:16] - I agree with Pierce. Nobody should bother voting unless their vote will determine the outcome of something.
-Paul[2008-07-10 17:15:58] - a: "(or at least he should be)" makes all the difference in the world. politicians aren't defined by their votes, they're defined by what they get done, and there's no way to measure that given all the horse trading and bureaucratic overhead in congress (not to mention that obama's career there is too short to draw conclusions anyway). - pierce
[2008-07-10 17:06:42] - the fact that it wasn't a tiebreaker is inconsequential. ~a
[2008-07-10 17:05:56] - pierce: a politician is defined by his votes (or at least he should be). if he had voted differently on the bill, then he'd obviously be "fighting" for change. ~a
[2008-07-10 16:30:53] - mig: and what, precisely, would have changed if he'd voted differently on this bill? it's not like he was a tiebreaker. - pierce
[2008-07-10 16:18:40] - and isn't he supposed to be the candidate for change? but when given the opportunity to fight for change, he'd rather submit to the status quo... - mig
[2008-07-10 16:12:09] - pierce: oh sure he *could* do good things. why should i believe he actually will. - mig
[2008-07-10 16:01:12] - a: I would argue that 'talking about good things' is not in the same subset of 'things' as 'doing good things'. Largely because 'talking about good things' is only barely overlapping with the 'things' category to begin with. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-10 15:59:25] - aaron: It's a good deck. Some of the others look pretty decent too. I'm actually seriously curious to see what kind of a combo deck could use "Mine Extraction". A crappy one, I know, but how bad is it? -- Xpovos
[2008-07-10 15:58:52] - Paul: Rings a bell, but not something I'm 'up' on. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-10 15:40:24] - pierce: "talking about good things" is in the subset of "doing good things". right? ~a
[2008-07-10 15:37:10] - *training. ~a
[2008-07-10 15:37:03] - gurkie: MagicDraw UML. usually my traning classes are on hla (which is completely unrelated to magicdraw uml) ~a
[2008-07-10 15:36:24] - Obama's a mainstream politician... the bad news is, that means he's not always going to stand up for what's right. The good news is, that means he can actually *do* good things instead of just talking about them. - pierce
[2008-07-10 15:33:28] - I think the retroactive immunity is wrong and Obama is doing the wrong thing voting for it, but if people wanted idealistic, uncompromising candidates then this race would be Paul vs. Kucinich. - pierce
[2008-07-10 15:32:44] - a: what was the presentation on? ~gurkie
[2008-07-10 15:02:55] - paul: no. - mig
[2008-07-10 14:53:06] - aaron: yesm ~a
[2008-07-10 14:52:02] - aaron: yes'r - vinnie
[2008-07-10 14:50:10] - ddr_people: itg to-day? - aaron
[2008-07-10 14:43:07] - xpovos: ha, they made my blue-red power of fire deck out of commons - aaron
[2008-07-10 14:24:17] - mig: Is it a PvP server? -Paul
[2008-07-10 14:10:39] - paul: skywall. - mig
[2008-07-10 13:48:02] - there was a second meeting scheduled that overlapped my presentation. so only 25 people showed up to my thing. yay. ~a
[2008-07-10 13:31:07] - mig: What Wow server do you play on? Bryan was curious. -Paul
[2008-07-10 13:05:34] - xpovos: Ever hear about the Council on Foreign Relations? -Paul
[2008-07-10 12:29:15] - Magic players: could be fun to play some of these in some casual games. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-10 12:04:20] - http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/07/10/obama_fisa/index.html?source=newsletter lol, obama. - mig
[2008-07-10 10:33:57] - a: 130? Pretty big crowd. The crowd atmosphere changes a lot with the number of people. Small group 10-30 will be more communicative. Larger crowds will tend to clam up. It may feel harder to give a presentation to a big group, but for the most part, they're just going to be sitting and staring, not really absorbing anything. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-10 10:27:38] - <sweats> i really don't know how many people are going to be there. it could be 30 it could be 130. ~a
[2008-07-10 10:23:05] - xpovos: my training presentations usually go well, but there's only like 10 people in the room. at work i've never had to present in front of more than 10 people. also this material is something i know much less about. ~a
[2008-07-10 10:19:15] - Aarvos: No to both, unfortunately. I've got some work around the house to do on Saturday, followed by poker, and then I will probably be going shopping and working on my resume on Sunday. Sorry. -Paul
[2008-07-10 10:18:28] - gurkie: it went really well, thanks! i probably got like 7th or 8th place and my time was the same as last week. ~a
[2008-07-10 10:09:21] - xpovos: wow I totally mis-understood sometimes when I get through a presentation I get super excited after and have lots of energy cause its such an adrenaline rush facing my fears et al... ~gurkie
[2008-07-10 10:06:10] - Vinnie: Yeah, that's the feeling. I've given a lot of my 4-hour training presentations. That's always rough. Not only is it 4 hours, but it's a very difficult topic for most people. If I do it on a weekend I'm pretty much done for the rest of that day. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-10 10:04:21] - xpovos: oh I think I know what you mean with the awful social high. I don't have a big problem with presentations, but afterward I feel really drained. almost embarrassed too, like I fooled the audience into thinking I was someone else. it's hard to describe - vinnie
[2008-07-10 10:00:12] - paul: are you coming to the eventide prerelease on sunday? -- Xpovos
[2008-07-10 09:59:49] - a: My advice on presentations: 1) Know your material front and back. 2) Project confidence--that's particularly important when you don't feel it. Audiences eat meek presenters alive. It's a good time to try your hand at acting. If all goes well you end up with an awful social high that takes hours (or many beers) to kill. Some people enjoy that crap. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-10 09:58:09] - paul: are you coming to the eventide preprelease on saturday? - aaron
[2008-07-10 09:57:23] - a: how was your race last night? ~gurkie
[2008-07-10 09:57:15] - paul: ur so not helpful, if he inadvertantly does that now u made it worse! ~gurkie
[2008-07-10 09:56:53] - a: hmm, sudoku sounds much more fun than seppuku... I wish I had some great advice, but everything people have told me never seems to help me much. I hate presenting. ~gurkie
[2008-07-10 09:34:16] - a: Just picture yourself naked in front of all of them. Or something like that. -Paul
[2008-07-10 09:26:26] - a: you can do it! - rob schneider
[2008-07-10 09:21:28] - jeebus, i am SO nervous. i have to do a presentation where there's likely to be 50+ people. if anything goes wrong, i'm going to go play sudoku or commit seppuku or something. ~a
[2008-07-09 13:02:08] - sytycd_people: 8:30 at mine. See you all there! ~gurkie
[2008-07-09 12:32:25] - aaron: depends on whether amy is planning on showing or not
[2008-07-09 12:30:14] - vinnie: is amy coming? Can she make it at about 8:45 ~gurkie
[2008-07-09 12:00:34] - gurkie: what time? like 8:30? - aaron
[2008-07-09 11:57:08] - gurkie: no dinner, yes sytycd - aaron
[2008-07-09 10:51:45] - I'll probably pass on dinner though - vinnie
[2008-07-09 10:51:31] - gurkie: yeah I'd like to watch - vinnie
[2008-07-09 10:25:46] - sytycd_people: let me know sooner rather than later as I might make other plans if people arent coming over... ~gurkie
[2008-07-09 10:08:18] - sytycd_people: mine tonight? any interest in dinner first... ~gurkie
[2008-07-09 10:07:52] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maglev_train wow, the highest recorded speed is 581 km/h. going to California would take ~8 hrs!
- vinnie[2008-07-09 10:03:22] - Gurkie: That's because you get into work hours later than me. You still check it soon after you get in, I'm sure.
-Paul[2008-07-09 09:59:35] - a: also, in reference to your comment about cross-country driving, high-speed trains are becoming a lot more viable. there are trains capable of going close to 400 km/h. at that speed, going to California can be done in like 11 hours. not too much worse than flying considering security lines and stuff - vinnie
[2008-07-09 09:57:49] - a: sorry, I was being hyperbolic. there will always be a use for planes, and if the industry ends up becoming that weak, I think some of the restrictions may get lifted. but I do think a LOT less people will take planes, I mean, it's already happening - vinnie
[2008-07-09 09:49:56] - Paul: UR OBSESSED!!! I havent even checked those sales... ~gurkie
[2008-07-09 09:38:53] - It looks like Amazon might have Angel on sale at 10am PDT today. If anybody is interested, they better make sure they check as soon as it starts since Buffy sold out in under 5 minutes. -Paul
[2008-07-09 08:32:01] - In reference to yesterday's Gold Box deal, I present the following. http://wondermark.com/d/423.html -- Xpovos
[2008-07-08 18:28:44] - a: "without riding planes, how do you suggest people will get long distances in short times?" given the state of the airline industry, i think it's safe to say people are indeed finding alternatives. - mig
[2008-07-08 16:03:29] - Cross-country training does take days, yes. That used to be the standard. Trans-Oceanic travel was weeks or if lucky several long days by sea. Airplanes are far from a necessity. A week long vacation to international exotic location is still possible, it just takes longer to get there. Add another week to the vacation for travel and enjoy it as well. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-08 15:49:37] - Xpovos: train? Cross-country? That would take DAYS! I for one would still fly, but how am I supposed to take week long vacations to international exotic locations without a plane? ~gurkie
[2008-07-08 15:49:29] - "Any hammock big enough to hold one person in comfort will accommodate two people, provided they're on very good terms."
[2008-07-08 14:24:26] - a: Particularly since you don't plan on doing anything wrong, correct? I flew to get to my honeymoon on time (and back) first time I'd flown in quite a while, having stopped on principle. Sadly, I'll be flying again in Dec. and then again Dec. 09. For cross-country, there's always train. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-08 14:09:58] - vinnie: without riding planes, how do you suggest people will get long distances in short times? i for one love driving, but wouldn't think of trying to drive from one side of the country to the other. although i'd probably stop flying in planes on principle, i would still prefer a shocky-bracelet to having to drive cross-country. ~a
[2008-07-08 13:58:50] - mig: lol, "lets put one on the president's private parts that goes off every-time someone in his administration does something stupid." - aaron
[2008-07-08 13:57:38] - Paul: Katie is a dealhunter, according to her, the GB deal on Buffy sold out (all copies reserved) within 3 minutes. Not bad for Amazon. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-08 13:56:52] - aaron: It heartens me to know that when Wikipedia gains sentience it should also be capable of writing it's own meaningful prose. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-08 13:54:03] - xpovos: lol that's my favorite tdwtf quote... the pig disgusting - aaron
[2008-07-08 13:52:49] - pretty soon no one's gonna ride planes. it seems like everything is going wrong for that industry - vinnie
[2008-07-08 13:10:07] - mig: yuck... that doesnt look fun... ~gurkie
[2008-07-08 13:01:28] - Looks like the gold box deal is the entire series of Buffy for $90. Not too bad, it ends up being about $13 per season. -Paul
[2008-07-08 12:50:44] - http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/aviation-security/2008/Jul/01/want-some-torture-with-your-peanuts/ dhs thought about using shock bracelts for airline passengers. - mig
[2008-07-08 12:42:35] - I mean, allow me to parse that... "Steven O. Black: Your wife|live-in-girlfriend is ugly. Americans are a bunch of Commies|Republicans. Isn't that right, IBM? - spam" -- Xpovos
[2008-07-08 12:40:33] - That spam is getting decidedly closer to genuine mboard conversation. Pig put foot. Grunt. Ketchup. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-08 12:32:39] - stevenoceanbblack you house ugly woman red are america right ibm
[2008-07-08 10:58:06] - paul: I saw that and was thinking of telling u but decided you dont need more buffy dvds... ~gurkie
[2008-07-08 10:10:29] - paul: it happens when you're with someone for long enough - amy, I mean, vinnie
[2008-07-08 10:01:40] - For anybody who is interested, it looks like Amazon's gold box lightning deals are going to include some Buffy DVDs at 10am PDT. (Yes, I realize I have become Gurkie). -Paul
[2008-07-08 09:10:41] - aaron: That looks awesome. I doubt I could solve it. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-08 03:16:17] - aaron: I'm not sure if you know this already... According to Wikipedia, Scrubs will return for an eighth season on ABC. - Kaleb
[2008-07-07 20:36:29] - a: http://cube4you.com/386_Black-Four-layer-Square-1.html
- aaron[2008-07-07 19:04:55] - Hmm never mind i was misinformed, that's a completely different measure, you're right BMI is pretty dumb - aaron
[2008-07-07 19:01:30] - a: some versions of BMI are dumb... there's a better version of BMI which involves measuring the sound your skin flaps make when they rub together, it's just not something you can calculate at home over the internet - aaron
[2008-07-07 17:11:20] - sam: yeah that's using bmi which is pretty dumb. according to bmi, i'm "overweight" ~a
[2008-07-07 16:47:41] - paul: comparison of relational database management systems. ~a
[2008-07-07 16:45:37] - Mississippi is the fattest state for 3rd straight year, Colorado still leanest... http://calorielab.com/news/2008/07/02/fattest-states-2008/ -sam
[2008-07-07 16:27:27] - Paul: Oracle is pretty similar, there are minot differences but its really easy to google the differences... at least in terms of querying. I think you do some more in depth db work than I do though... ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 16:09:46] - Anybody know how similr Oracle is to MSSQL? -Paul
[2008-07-07 15:34:01] - nah your first name is pretty common too, i think.... - aaron
[2008-07-07 15:31:14] - At least if I ever submit something to Alex, you'll all know it was me. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-07 15:30:41] - aaron: I don't know; I doubt it. Travis is not that uncommon a first name. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-07 14:54:25] - xpovos:
that's not really our Travis H is it? That would be awesome - aaron[2008-07-07 13:34:02] - That's funny ~Dee
[2008-07-07 12:10:19] - Hey, cool. Travis got DailyWTF'd.
-- Xpovos[2008-07-07 11:37:38] - hmmm, my link seems to be misbehaving when the referrer is unset. you need to click on the "Social Science Research Network" "New York, USA" link. ~a
[2008-07-07 11:31:13] - often times double-blind is the minimum. ~a
[2008-07-07 11:29:41] - gurkie: pdf on page 109&110 (second from the end) you can see her questionnaire. this would be a zero-blind experiment. blind experiments are usually better. ~a
[2008-07-07 11:25:13] - a: I never learned java, but I assume that I'm going to have to. Unfortunately my basic concepts aren't too solid either. -Paul
[2008-07-07 11:23:26] - a: i can expirement to figure out if that is what I did... I just saw the screen doing something odd and realized I had my finger on the wrong key... But expirementing would make the msg board even messier! ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 11:22:37] - a: okay lets say the pics under the wrestle tag ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 11:05:39] - not all of those pictures suggest paul is gay. one of them seems to imply otherwise. ~a
[2008-07-07 11:01:45] - it's pretty odd that holding down enter would do that. ~a
[2008-07-07 11:00:02] - a: yea those tags pretty much sum up why my sisters assume paul is gay. ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 10:59:24] - a: its her thesis I am guessing she had more to back it than a vague feeling that people were uncomfortable with how many asians are in a class... ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 10:58:43] - oops..................... I meant to hit shift not enter... ~gurkie
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[2008-07-07 10:56:46] - jenny tsai "wrote her thesis about what she perceived as a growing sentiment that 'too many asians' were at top magnet schools. ... she sensed 'a certain level of anxiety' as the portion of asian american students in the entering class grew from less than a third to more than half" isn't she probably projecting there? this sentiment might just be in her head. ~a
[2008-07-07 10:44:42] - gurkie: i did reduce many of the folder names. ~a
[2008-07-07 10:43:39] - paul: a lot about programming can be learned on the job. however, every technical interviewer will try to determine what basic concepts you know and if it isn't enough, you might not get the job. did you ever learn java? it seems like many of our friends are using java at work. ~a
[2008-07-07 10:32:41] - gurkie: click on the "(index)" link above. then scroll down past the people to the list at the bottom. ~a
[2008-07-07 10:27:47] - Gurkie: I'm guessing I will have to try to get back into programming, since I don't think there are a lot of jobs out there similar to what I'm doing now and I'm not really qualified for anything else.
-Paul[2008-07-07 10:27:45] - a: i really mean the folder names... sigh ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 10:25:51] - a: you kept the file names as I had them! some of them ought to be in other folders... ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 10:23:43] - a: im scared! how do I look at pics by tags... ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 10:22:06] - Paul: Or I can get it submited to CGI... They are really close to your house and pay fairly well and I think you could do well there... Although I dont know exactly what type of roll you would want... ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 10:21:18] - Paul: you should be able to get a raise... I could submit your resume to my company,,, but I dont really think you sell yourself enough to get a job here. My company is very all about confidence. If you dont believe you are a good programmer they probably wont want to hire you... ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 10:18:29] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/06/AR2008070602343.html TJ's frosh class is 45% asian and 42% white... ~gurkie
[2008-07-07 09:41:02] - Xpovos: Honestly, I would probably be fine with no raise, as long as my salary is not going down. It's more of an attempt to raise my standard of living. Not sure how I feel about a commute to SE D.C., but if I get my resume updated I might pass it on to you. Thanks. -Paul
[2008-07-07 09:34:18] - Paul: It'd be in the office I'm leaving, so S.E. Washington D.C., your pay would be based on your salary history, etc. I'm pretty sure Mark (my boss) would be able to offer you a slight raise. I just don't know how much; you may be making more (or much more) than I think/remember. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-07 09:01:43] - Xpovos: Where would the job be located and how much do you think it would pay? -Paul
[2008-07-07 08:40:17] - Paul: I'm pretty sure I could put your resume on my bosses desk. He'll be desperate for some brains here after I leave. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-07 03:11:08] - http://menwholooklikeoldlesbians.blogspot.com/
[2008-07-06 22:54:11] - So... is anybody's company looking for bad programmers or "business analysts"? -Paul
[2008-07-06 18:56:59] - a: you rock! ... see u in a few hours... ~Dee
[2008-07-06 16:37:34] - dee: sent. ~a
[2008-07-06 15:18:28] - I don't have everyone's email.Would u please? I don't even have YOUR number... (oh and just to specify thats fairfax towne center... it's not playing at fairfaxcorner) ~dee
[2008-07-06 15:07:51] - or i can if you want. ~a
[2008-07-06 15:07:38] - dee: you should probably send an email or something. people rarely come here on the weekend. ~a
[2008-07-06 14:35:57] - So wall-e at 8pm at fairfax towne center? ~Dee
[2008-07-04 05:04:05] - gurkie: thank you for new pictures! my newest favorite tags are "sex", "tongue", and "wrestle". ~a
[2008-07-03 16:56:23] - Aaron: ITG tonight? - Kaleb
[2008-07-03 16:32:38] - aaron: so, $100,000.00 to $107,946.02?
~a[2008-07-03 16:19:27] - paul: not me. "i'm going to my parents' house today" sorry! ~a
[2008-07-03 16:17:52] - aaron: you're using the same incorrect magic number andrew used. the magic number is 7.94602% ~a
[2008-07-03 16:09:07] - Would anybody here be interested in poker tonight? -Paul
[2008-07-03 16:05:05] - xpovos: i cracked the code. congratulations on your $796.02 raise! - aaron
[2008-07-03 16:04:40] - a: i=$10,000.00 j=$10,796.02 val=0 - aaron
[2008-07-03 14:57:35] - Xpovos: I figured as much when I arrived late and you guys hadn't joined yet. Its ok, I don't think Travis and I went significantly farther. -Paul
[2008-07-03 14:53:31] - oh i was using $66.7k to $72.0k as my guess, not $667 to $720
~a[2008-07-03 14:52:20] - http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Silent-But-Deadly.aspx silent but deadly... - aaron
[2008-07-03 14:47:34] - Paul: I wasn't aware we were back on TQ schedule this week. I worked late and Katie was out at the other Katie's. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 14:47:13] - $12.50 *2080 / 667 = 38.98. So we can assume the multiple to be somewhere between 40 and 200; since I'm clearly not making one gross thousand dollars per annum. The problem is that the multiple could be almost anything in there, and not necessarily a whole number, though a whole number fits the criteria best. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 14:44:05] - a: Yeah, I continued to tweak the code until it was fixed. It was all in the magic number. Well, we can take some previous data that I provided and rule out the fact that my ~8% raise was not from $667 to $720; but of some other amount at a higher multiple based on the previous discussion of my 25% raise from $10/hr to 12.50/hr. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 14:43:46] - Xpovos: So where were you and Katie last night? -Paul
[2008-07-03 14:40:58] - xpovos: no, you are correct, 667 & 720 is what i got. i assume, though, that's still not the "right" answer or you would have said something. ~a
[2008-07-03 14:38:44] - http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/A-Y2K-Holdover.aspx save up to 50% on War in Iraq! - aaron
[2008-07-03 14:01:39] - a: Or, maybe not. http://www.thelosthaven.com/magic2uxdel/adrian.php I wonder if I've still got an error in the magic number... -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 13:56:18] - a: Found it. Error in my magic number. My code had abs($j/$i - 1.079602) What a difference that 4 makes. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 13:47:49] - i meant to say "modern x86", not literally the 8086. ~a
[2008-07-03 13:42:23] - according to the manual, php uses 64 bit ieee format which is the same thing as double in c/cpp on 8086 chips. ~a
[2008-07-03 13:26:49] - it seems to work in php for me. <?php $min=100;for($i=1;$i<1000;$i++) {for($j=$i+1;$j<1000;$j++) {$val=abs($j/$i - 1.0794602);if($val<$min) {$min=$val;$mini=$i;$minj=$j;}}} echo "$mini $minj\n"; ~a
[2008-07-03 12:19:42] - a: Or, I guess since PHP doesn't define data types it may not be precise enough to do what C++ can do with doubles. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 12:08:12] - a: Secondarily, the program finds a good set of LCD, but it doesn't provide a good tool for a multiple. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 12:06:00] - a: OK, now I've got no clue. I programmed it in PHP, your code exactly unless I used the wrong function to translate fabs(). My processor kicked out 201 207. I mean, I know I suck as a programmer, but this is basic math! -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 11:40:03] - Xpovos: I wish I had some money in Scottrade right now, I would be really tempted to buy some nVidia stock. -Paul
[2008-07-03 11:30:38] - xpovos: mini=667 minj=720. ~a
[2008-07-03 10:57:12] - a: I figured out why I got the wrong numbers. When I did the code in my head, I didn't follow the second iteration loop properly. mini=201;minj-207; val=really small. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 10:56:51] - Gurkie: Your page says I should claim 11 allowances. That seems a little ridiculous to me. -Paul
[2008-07-03 10:56:15] - a: No, he never mentioned it. Fed only. I can ask him when I see him on Saturday next, if I remember, though. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 10:51:04] - Xpovos: I don't have dependents, but I do have interest that I can write off. -Paul
[2008-07-03 10:13:10] - paul: for some reason I think I might use 6 but I am really not certain... ~gurkie
[2008-07-03 10:12:39] - a: right, but the worksheet should tell him how many deductibles he should claim... ~gurkie
[2008-07-03 10:04:45] - of course none of this affects your virginia withholding. xpovos: your friend in the irs, does he say anything about state withholding? i always got mad about how much the virginia withholding form (va4) keeps you from increasing your allowances. ~a
[2008-07-03 10:01:23] - gurkie: (if i recall correctly) the worksheet is for your use only: you don't submit page 2. ~a
[2008-07-03 10:00:12] - paul: i use five. ~a
[2008-07-03 09:49:22] - paul: make sure you put the interest in on the second page under "other tax credits" ~gurkie
[2008-07-03 09:48:53] - paul: http://www.irs.gov/individuals/page/0,,id=14806,00.html if you have an estimate of how much you will be paying in interest this year this will tell you how many to claim. I believe I paid about 24K in interest the first year of my mortgage, but I could be making that up... ~gurkie
[2008-07-03 09:40:30] - Paul: Not unless you have two dependants I don't know about. On the other side of the equation, I have a friend who works for the IRS and his response is: get it as close to a zero return/zero owed as possible, regardless of what is stated on the forms. They don't care. So long as you don't end up owing substantially (penalties) or being owed substantially. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-03 09:39:17] - aaron: yes, last week was nvcc. i'm going to my parents' house today though. ~a
[2008-07-03 09:13:11] - ddr_people: is it SFM today? - aaron
[2008-07-03 09:12:17] - paul: it sounds reasonable to me, I actually think I have more than that listed... But I dont really know... ~gurkie
[2008-07-03 08:45:30] - Any people with mortgages here know if 4 allowances sounds reasonable for the w4? -Paul
[2008-07-03 00:26:12] - gurkie: thanks. ~a
[2008-07-02 23:20:09] - xpovos: you guessed the goal of the program! yay. but you didn't get the correct mini&minj values. ~a
[2008-07-02 17:54:14] - Title: Free the xpovos1314? -- Xpovos
[2008-07-02 17:45:01] - a: good luck at your race! ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 17:36:45] - gurkie: Yeah, I'm switching back to a company I worked for before to take over my old boss' job. It'd be a lot more impressive in terms of job-switch raise if my current company hadn't given me really big raises in the intervening time. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-02 17:35:22] - a: Uh... Return: val = 0.0025371 mini = 13; minj = 14; ? I think I gave the right number of sig figs. Now, I think you're trying to guess at the salary based on the precision of the raise, and I can see some of it, but in the end, I don't think it works. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-02 16:56:32] - aba: that makes sense... I guess I was thinking of a downloadable mini-expansion that they could make and have available for download free if they wanted to beat the record although it sounds as though they would have trouble beating it based on numbers... ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 16:55:07] - xpovos: i know you explained it before (and that there is a search box) but its a different company from where you are currently working right? 8% is so so for switching companies, while staying in a company it is really good... ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 16:51:48] - a: I was saying I would hang out at Barnes and Nobles in DC until you called at which point I would metro to a station close to you... If you would rather pick me up in DC and eat here that is fine... Or I would be good with Noodles & Co, I <3 that place... ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 16:39:55] - xpovos: just for fun: int i,j,mini,minj;double min=100;for(i=1;i<1000;i++) {for(j=i+1;j<1000;j++) {double val=fabs(double(j)/i - 1.0794602);if(val<min) {min=val;mini=i;minj=j;}}}
~a[2008-07-02 16:17:18] - gurkie: all wow downloads/patches are "free". only the expansion packs are purchased (and then there's the monthly $15 fee in the US). it's also hard to determine how many active players there are because china operates under a pay per hour business model instead of an unlimited play per fee model. - aba
[2008-07-02 16:14:58] - a: OK, 8% is pretty aweseome. But it's not actually a full 8%. It's 7.94602...% And I think we probably discussed it over poker, but while a 25% raise sounds really nice, when it's from $10.00/hr to $12.50/hr it's not nearly as impressive. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-02 16:05:05] - xpovos: 8% is stellar especially after double digit percent raises. i've never had a double digit percent raise. ~a
[2008-07-02 15:56:46] - oh no. i can't eat there! ~a
[2008-07-02 15:48:05] - a: From the context, I would guess Gurkie means BN to be Barnes and Noble. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-02 15:09:48] - i won't have eaten, so it's up to you. what is bn? i trust that i'll like bn's food, but i'm not sure if i'll be appropriately dressed or appropriately clean. ~a
[2008-07-02 14:58:29] - a: my last statement was poorly worded I meant I can see a higher percentage of WoW users downloading than Firefox users, not that they would actually surpass in numbers... You didnt reply about dinner, should I eat before getting out there or do you have any interest in grabbing food? ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 14:49:19] - The time for kicking me in the cojones has passed, I'm afraid. I'm safely married, and 7 months in. No turning back now--cojones kicks or not. Raise works out to be about 8%. Not stellar, but I think my days of double digit percent raises are behind me. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-02 14:31:11] - in the cojones? ~a
[2008-07-02 14:18:37] - a: It's ok, you can still kick Andrew. -Paul
[2008-07-02 14:05:43] - gurkie: you're still assuming that 83% of the users are as rabid as david and david. some of the users may go months without logging on and when they do log on, the might not even find out about this hypothetical game. ~a
[2008-07-02 14:04:51] - paul: shakes fist. you beat me to the punch. ~a
[2008-07-02 14:04:22] - xpovos: congrats. here comes a big salary increase? ~a
[2008-07-02 14:04:11] - Xpovos: Congrats? I assume this is a good thing, right? -Paul
[2008-07-02 13:51:46] - OK, it's semi-official, I'm taking the new (old) job. -- Xpovos
[2008-07-02 13:49:18] - a: right, but I can see more people downloading it if it is free that day only and you have to pay for it another day... I am not saying they could do it, but I do think its feasible... Although WOW could probably just make money off a mini-release instead of bothering with a world record... ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 13:46:56] - as a comparison, only like 2%-3% of firefox users downloaded firefox3 on download day. ~a
[2008-07-02 13:33:08] - "As of 22 January 2008, World of Warcraft has surpassed 10 million subscribers worldwide" (source) that would only work if they got more than 83% of their subscribers to download the mini-release. 83% seems impossible to me. some of the subscribers are inactive, right? ~a
[2008-07-02 12:54:25] - anyone have any clue how many users wow has? I wonder if they could beat firefox's download numbers by having some sort of free mini release that is only available for a day... ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 12:08:56] - aaron: yeah. i use the harder version all the time for pretty much any web page that has searching and i use it for bookmarking every web page i use on a daily basis. thanks for the easier version, that's cool! ~a
[2008-07-02 11:53:52] - I knew the search-keyword feature was always there it was just harder to use before - aaron
[2008-07-02 11:47:16] - Hey cool, in firefox 3 you can right click a text box and say "add a keyword for this search"... so i can post to the message board from my URL bar if i feel like it - aaron
[2008-07-02 11:27:54] - gurkie: i like the new plan. i'll call you around 700-730. ~a
[2008-07-02 11:26:13] - a: going home takes like an hour plus so it feels pointless since then you would have to drive to mine to get me. I could wait til you are done with ur race and u could call me then I leave DC and meet you at the metro... there is a BN right around the corner! ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 10:41:05] - i've never been in the used book store, but i've often thought about it. it closes at 9, which should be ok. link ~a
[2008-07-02 10:39:15] - gurkie: there's a used book store on your way home from the king street metro stop. the king street metro stop is about 1/2 mile from the book store (which is about 1/2 mile from my house). ~a
[2008-07-02 10:36:05] - gurkie: you can't go home? ~a
[2008-07-02 10:35:49] - a: also which are the metro stations near your place? I think I remember there are two that are close to your house... ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 10:34:56] - a: I work in DC, I cant imagine picking me up here would be fun... Is there a book store near one of the metro stations near your place? Cause then i could just chill at a book store until you are done... Also do you want to grab dinner? ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 10:29:29] - sam: lots of board games seem to have been ported to xbox360: ticket, carcassone, settlers, lost cities (which i havent actually played)... ~gurkie
[2008-07-02 10:00:25] - ticket to ride video game http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/tickettoride/index.html?tag=tabs;summary -sam
[2008-07-01 23:08:14] - http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/35665588 i think vinnie mentioned something about g-g about a month ago but kaleb just linked me again today - aaron
[2008-07-01 19:20:34] - a: i don't think there's a character in waitress who doesn't have a flaw. none of the women are really that good either.
- aba[2008-07-01 18:03:24] - "a: AMD has taken a big hit lately but they have also been on quite a run this past month or so. Normally the stock dropping so much would've made me cry but it's still up a huge amount from when I bought it so I don't mind so much. -Paul" Ah... good times. -Paul
[2008-07-01 17:37:55] - search search
[2008-07-01 15:44:54] - mig: yes, i was being sarcastic. ~a
[2008-07-01 15:29:55] - a: are you actually serious about that, because it does border on complete and utter ridiculousness if that's actually true. - mig
[2008-07-01 15:25:13] - and so am i for responding to myself. - mig
[2008-07-01 15:24:43] - mig: good god, france is fucked up. - mig
[2008-07-01 15:07:58] - mig: to sell your car in france, you need to get the agreement of peugeot. to sell your house in france, you have to talk to all the previous owners of the house before you can resell it. ~a
[2008-07-01 14:47:04] - http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202422673041 all your luxury goods are belong to us. - mig
[2008-07-01 14:41:15] - aaron: I have updated the wiki page for the so you think you can dance pool if you want to see who everyone guessed.. ~gurkie
[2008-07-01 14:39:09] - Aaron: I really wish I could see what the appeal of scientology is. Maybe Adrian and I had a unique experience but when we went it really seemed pretty dumb and unimpressive. -Paul
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