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[2009-02-05 08:36:51] - pierce: Would you still recommend it knowing that I absolutely despire Firefly? Although I haven't seen Dexter and though the premise was interesting. -- Xpovos
[2009-02-05 03:04:05] - a: I thought I saw three messages, which is three more messages than I usually see. - pierce
[2009-02-04 22:14:25] - amy: aaaaah i loled at Dow Jones... - aaron
[2009-02-04 21:24:10] - kaleb: that's cool. and i understand the reasons, but it's still a pain in the ass. i have a pathalogical situation (the message board, actually), where it's a pain that i can't ever override a tag-level style. ~a
[2009-02-04 20:48:05] - also . . . i don't think two messages really constitutes a "spammy" day. many days the filters see 50-100 messages. ~a
[2009-02-04 19:24:28] - pierce: yeah, the spammers are getting past my filters. one of these days i'll need to up the ante. ~a
[2009-02-04 19:16:18] - wow, spammy today. - pierce
[2009-02-04 18:15:57] - gurkie: I'm surprised you didn't like it. I really would've expected you would. - pierce
[2009-02-04 18:13:49] - as far as paul and xpovos, I'd recommend you watch the first two episodes. the pilot is pretty representative of the quality of the rest of the first season, but bears a lot of the burden of introducing characters and having a "hook". - pierce
[2009-02-04 18:11:03] - and arrested development, although that's kind of apples to oranges. - pierce
[2009-02-04 18:10:16] - the first season of friday night lights is the best tv show I've seen in the last ten years, although it's within the margin of error of firefly and the first season of dexter. - pierce
[2009-02-04 17:42:50] - amy: thank you! - aaron
[2009-02-04 17:42:34] - friday night lights is the best tv show i've seen in at least 10 years. not sure that'd convince paul or xpovos that it's good though.
- aba[2009-02-04 16:45:41] - aaron: cubeecraft.com the cube thing website! -amy
[2009-02-04 16:45:21] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-BZfFakpzc "economic crisis" graphs put to music using songsmith -amy
[2009-02-04 15:52:22] - pierce: OK. Easterbrook likes it too, but I'm not convinced. Still. Was a good book. -- Xpovos
[2009-02-04 15:04:14] - Pierce: I think I'll pass. I've heard good things about it, but everything I've seen has just looked boring to me. Besides, I have enough stuff on my plate right now to keep my busy anyway.
-Paul[2009-02-04 14:54:00] - pierce: I was unimpressed, I streamed it a bit ago watched the first episode or maybe 2 and decided not to bother watching the rest... ~gurkie
[2009-02-04 14:53:20] - Kaleb: welcome back, long time no see... ~gurkie
[2009-02-04 14:45:23] - (which is excellent) - pierce
[2009-02-04 14:45:12] - xpovos: I'm talking about the TV show, dude. - pierce
[2009-02-04 14:37:11] - Friday Night Lights was not a particularly fun nor good movie. Nor was it an accurate rendition of the journalistic novel. Read the book, as almost always, it was significantly better. -- Xpovos
[2009-02-04 14:19:00] - a: As pierce kinda mentioned, tag-level styles are highest precedence in CSS, and they can not be overridden by a style sheet, even with !important declarations. - Kaleb
[2009-02-04 13:28:27] - paul: and don't forget friday night lights if you haven't already watched that. - pierce
[2009-02-04 12:23:21] - aaron: I thought that was funny too. I wonder if he just left or if he at least yelled at the clerk and chased him around or something. -Paul
[2009-02-04 12:19:23] - Pierce: Already on my queue, just haven't gotten around to it yet. Too much 30 Rock to catch up on. -Paul
[2009-02-04 12:14:13] - to vinnie's point: if you folks haven't seen the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster* I highly recommend it. it's available for free streaming if you have netflix. - pierce
[2009-02-04 12:00:44] - paul: we don't mind your kind of bias. ~a
[2009-02-04 11:11:57] - paul: the second clerk said "no", so he just left? that's kind of lame, i wonder if the sword was sharp - aaron
[2009-02-04 11:04:11] - mig: More often than not, that's why I try to do so I can refute claims of bias.
-Paul[2009-02-04 10:54:38] - paul: that's a lame excuse. - mig
[2009-02-04 10:41:07] - mig: I just copied and pasted the headline
-Paul[2009-02-04 10:40:03] - paul: i'm ashamed of you. calling it a sword. - mig
[2009-02-04 10:22:03] - mig: the funniest is when the drugs actually make them into winners
- vinnie[2009-02-04 09:34:21] - http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/18637190/detail.html Man Robs Convenience Stores With Klingon Sword. -Paul
[2009-02-03 15:44:51] - btw, i revel in the fact that the motto "winners don't do drugs" can be proven to be utter bullshit from time to time. - mig
[2009-02-03 15:44:02] - oh nm, reading now. - mig
[2009-02-03 15:43:16] - I thought I heard that at least half his endorsers accepted his apology, but a couple were still on the fence ~gurkie
[2009-02-03 15:41:00] - paul: charges in britain or here? - mig
[2009-02-03 15:12:47] - I'm reading that Phelps could be facing criminal chrages. That would be awesome PR, throwing him in jail. -Paul
[2009-02-03 15:05:58] - I know in all practicality he has to protect his endorsement deals, but I think if anyone's earned the right to relax it's him. - pierce
[2009-02-03 15:04:34] - plus, hell, it's not like the 2009 championships are what's going to propel him to stardom or anything. he already took home tons of medals in the 2007 championships if that was his goal, not to mention... the olympics. - pierce
[2009-02-03 15:03:28] - aba: I think I read in one of the articles that he's been preparing for the 2009 world championships. nevertheless, I agree with a that it's probably an insignificant impact unless he's doing it frequently. - pierce
[2009-02-03 14:22:31] - i don't think he is swimming competitively right now, and i doubt he was smoking pot when he was training for and competing in the olympics. - aba
[2009-02-03 12:17:30] - i would think the main negative impact for swimmers would be lung capacity, but that only really applied to cigarettes; not marijuana - aaron
[2009-02-03 11:07:01] - maybe or maybe not. it probably depends on frequency and quantity of the consumption. ~a
[2009-02-03 10:56:15] - a: Fair enough, but does it outweigh, for instance, the positive effects of shaving your body?
-Paul[2009-02-03 10:29:19] - paul: i'm sure it does. but the negative effects, in general, are often overstated. ~a
[2009-02-03 10:26:06] - a: Not really, although I do wonder if it has any kind of negative effect on his swimming abilities. -Paul
[2009-02-03 10:24:42] - xpovos: michael phelps. paul: correct. so, are you surprised? ~a
[2009-02-03 09:41:54] - http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/02/skydiving.death/index.html Skydiving instructor dies during tandem jump. -Paul
[2009-02-03 09:09:24] - Anybody know when the polls close today for the special election and if we vote at the same place that we voted in the national elections? -Paul
[2009-02-03 09:09:02] - a: Do you mean who is surprised that a 23 year old well-off male in America smokes pot? -Paul
[2009-02-03 09:08:22] - Pierce: Thanks, I'll give that a try and see if that fits my needs. -Paul
[2009-02-03 08:50:50] - a: Insufficient data. Who are we talking about? Do I agree that he's one of the healthiest people in the world? Does smoking 'up' mean tobacco, or marijuanna, or other? Other factors, such as his age and genetics are far more important on a first order analysis. -- Xpovos
[2009-02-03 08:45:18] - so, who is surprised that one of the healthiest people in the world smokes up? ~a
[2009-02-02 23:34:21] - gurkie/a/pierce/title: thanks! .D -amy
[2009-02-02 20:13:47] - christian bale yells at a photographer for 4 minutes on the set of terminator 4 (nsfw, audio only) ~a
[2009-02-02 19:43:26] - a: yeah, "important" seems designed to override other things at the same precedence level. there may not be a way to override tag-level style declarations. sorry. - pierce
[2009-02-02 18:33:55] - pierce: i tried !important and it didn't work. it wouldn't override the "span style" but it would override other stuff. ~a
[2009-02-02 18:33:43] - paul: I use a program called Handbrake which has a lot of decent presets (like ripping DVD to a single iPod-compatible video file). decent quality. - pierce
[2009-02-02 18:32:48] - wow. one of the three writers of the new transformers movie (2009) went to tj. it's the same guy who wrote Arlington Road. ~a
[2009-02-02 18:32:41] - a: "span { color: black ! important }" should be the way to do that, but I'm not totally certain... also, I think it may not work in IE<6 - pierce
[2009-02-02 17:27:51] - who knows the most about css? i have a <span style="color: white">...</span> and i want to override that (with color: black) from a .css file. what do i do? ~a
[2009-02-02 17:21:55] - no no, compression is possible without losing noticeable quality (indirectly, many of these encoding systems use a library called ffmpeg). i don't really know enough about that though to give you any suggestions. ~a
[2009-02-02 17:15:21] - a: Well, I was somewhat hoping that there was a more efficient method of compressing the video so that I could get smaller file sizes without a noticable loss in video quality. I guess that's asking a lot. -Paul
[2009-02-02 17:06:08] - are you hoping to compress or down-sample the files? you can do that, but i usually don't bother unless i have a reason. ~a
[2009-02-02 17:05:21] - yes, the discs are typically 4-8 gb. ~a
[2009-02-02 17:03:42] - like i hinted before, you can create an .iso from the VIDEO_TS directory (so you have one huge file) or just rip directly to an .iso and some programs will accept that format as well. ~a
[2009-02-02 17:02:58] - a: Hmmm, for whatever reason I remember the .vob files as being unwieldy. Maybe I am just remembering how large they were. -Paul
[2009-02-02 17:00:45] - paul: ummm. i don't think so, but to be honest, i rarely deal with the individual vob files by themselves. i'm usually leaving the whole directory (VIDEO_TS) intact. ~a
[2009-02-02 16:58:40] - a: Hmmmm, does it have any kind of companion file it needs or else it doesn't work? -Paul
[2009-02-02 16:57:11] - paul: no the vob (i believe) includes the audio. ~a
[2009-02-02 16:47:48] - Oh no! My attempted quick edit failed! -Paul
[2009-02-02 16:47:32] - I was hoping there was an easy way to get a single file (If I recall, those .vob files had an accompanying audio file of some sort) which also isn't enormously huge. -Paul
[2009-02-02 16:47:30] - I was hoping there was an easy way to get a single file (If I recall, those .vob files had an accompanying audio file of some sort) which also isn't enormously huge. -Paul\
[2009-02-02 16:47:01] - yes, .vob is the file extension that is used on the mpeg-2 files. ~a
[2009-02-02 16:45:38] - Xpovos: I think that's what I had done a couple of years ago when I wanted to rip some DVDs to put on my iPod (ripped to .vob and then converted to whatever format the iPod demanded). -Paul
[2009-02-02 16:37:39] - This talking about .vob? -- Xpovos
[2009-02-02 15:39:14] - a: Ah, ok. I guess I'll have to look into DVD rippers to see what kind of options I have available. -Paul
[2009-02-02 15:11:44] - mplayer understands the dvd format, and i assume others do too. ~a
[2009-02-02 15:11:03] - paul: no it's neither. the directory structure is as it's stored on the dvd. it is a very hard to understand the directory structure so i treat the whole directory as a movie and let the movie player figure it out. (technically speaking, the ISO 9660 file system doesn't allow files greater than 4gb, so the movie is split up into 1gb chunks). ~a
[2009-02-02 14:39:07] - a: Huh, I wasn't aware that was even possible. So it's a single mpeg-2 file? That's pretty sweet. Are they broken down by chapter or is it just one mammoth file? -Paul
[2009-02-02 14:34:13] - i don't re-encode it into any specific video format. i keep the files encoded as they are on the disc (according to wikipedia, dvds are typically encoded as mpeg-2) ~a
[2009-02-02 14:32:03] - i just copy the files off the disc. in other words, it's basically just a recursive file copy. . . . i sometimes create an iso from those files, but that is an unnecessary step. ~a
[2009-02-02 14:09:03] - a: Well, you might still be able to help. What video format do you rip DVDs to? -Paul
[2009-02-02 14:00:53] -
you could install ubuntu on your desktop. ~a[2009-02-02 14:00:11] - i know that doesn't help you since you have no optical drive on your ubuntu machine. ~a
[2009-02-02 13:59:28] - paul: i've only ripped dvds in ubuntu. ~a
[2009-02-02 13:57:46] - Does anybody here have experience ripping DVDs? I'm interested in ripping some on my desktop (windows) for viewing on later on my netbook (ubuntu). -Paul
[2009-02-02 13:20:15] - amy: happy birthday. - pierce
[2009-02-02 11:07:15] - amy: peace. ~a
[2009-02-02 10:59:06] - Amy: Happy Birthday ~gurkie
[2009-02-01 11:11:09] - vinnie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1GUk1SBmY Creep by microsoft soundsmith - aaron
[2009-01-30 16:23:43] - Hey, Shipwreck! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kWk20eUpeY Maybe you won't find it quite as amusing if you don't have a naval background, but it's still fun. 6 minutes, gets going in the second minute. -- Xpovos
[2009-01-30 15:16:27] - yeah they are wracked with guilt every time they play their game... really, they are the victims here. they could put together a strong class action suit - vinnie
[2009-01-30 14:06:29] - xpovos: "Those who pirated the game, as usual, continue to play with no issues" that's not true! there are so many moral issues! - aaron
[2009-01-30 13:25:54] - aaron: no, it's 30 Rock's impersonation of Cathy. - title
[2009-01-30 10:31:48] - vinnie: Comment from the second one made me laugh. "Clearly better than St. Anger". -- Xpovos
[2009-01-30 10:22:20] - a: BLAAAH, yea now I feel dumb... I meant cube! ~gurkie
[2009-01-30 10:16:00] - Gotta love that wacky DRM. -- Xpovos
[2009-01-30 09:54:13] - last one, which actually sounds pretty decent! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V1DuHUs22Q - vinnie
[2009-01-30 09:50:43] - and another good one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmC28cXWqLc - vinnie
[2009-01-30 09:48:42] - have you guys heard any Microsoft Songsmith songs? it takes vocals or instruments and tries to create a backing track for them. once you've heard a few it's not that interesting, but the results are pretty funny sometimes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJcg3l2ZXNI - vinnie
[2009-01-30 09:47:57] - gurkie: yes. well, a cube but yeah. ~a
[2009-01-30 09:42:17] - oops that was me... ~gurkie
[2009-01-30 09:42:08] - aaron/amy: isnt that image have all the same colors on it? Is the point to make it a square?
[2009-01-30 08:03:14] - a: Is this related to the facebook thing? I'm pretty booked this weekend, and I think next weekend too, sorry. -Paul
[2009-01-30 07:22:47] - amy: bump cube! I got to play with it last weekend, it was pretty easy but it turns kind of tough. It's got a keychain cube as the core. - aaron
[2009-01-30 00:44:29] - a/aaron: cool rubik's cube! http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001AS8TJA check out this view: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/images/B001AS8TJA/ref=dp_otherviews_2?ie=UTF8&s=toys&img=2 -amy
[2009-01-29 23:16:14] - aaron: daily show? ~a
[2009-01-29 18:09:07] - anybody want to go skiing this weekend or next weekend? ~a
[2009-01-29 16:13:49] - title: is that your impersonation of the comic strip "cathy"? - aaron
[2009-01-29 16:12:36] - vinnie: yay! okay i'll go - aaron
[2009-01-29 15:06:40] - paul/gurkie: the "no-fee mortgage plus" is BoA's original mortgage offering for account holders where they pay all of your closing costs. it is apparently much harder to get them to pay closing costs if you are doing a refi. not sure about other companies. - aba
[2009-01-29 14:59:31] - a: I'm pretty I'm using a modified version of 8.04. -Paul
[2009-01-29 14:57:16] - paul: if you have ubuntu 8.10, this looks like a MUCH better solution: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/23/encrypted-private-directory-in-ubuntu-810/ though i haven't tried it myself. ~a
[2009-01-29 14:56:14] - also, both of those forums are from 2006 (which is an eternity ago in ubuntu time) so there are probably lots of outdated suggestions. ~a
[2009-01-29 14:54:36] - paul: short answer is: i don't know. to encrypt/decrypt a file, i use a program called ccencrypt (which comes with ccencrypt, ccdecrypt and ccat). here are forums: 1 & 2 both forums sound HARD (i *wouldn't* recommend them to new users) ~a
[2009-01-29 14:08:34] - vinnie: Yay! for your knee feeling better. -- Xpovos
[2009-01-29 13:32:46] - I'm gonna try DDR again this week if you all are up for it - vinnie
[2009-01-29 13:28:19] - mig: nope... ~gurkie
[2009-01-29 13:26:03] - a: is the "real name" badge required for writing reviews? it just boggles my mind that the thought just didn't occur to him that someone would find out that he's the vp of the company that is selling the product. - mig
[2009-01-29 12:40:28] - Anybody have any advice on an easy way to password protect a folder in ubuntu? I checked online but couldn't find any good information. -Paul
[2009-01-29 11:07:00] - aba: hrmm, do other companies pay closing costs for you? When I bought I had a really nice morgage broker my mom was thinking it would be nice to go through her again to reward her for being very helpful/nice previously. plus I like having the direct debit setup through BofA, I could probably set it up elsewhere but its easy this way... ~gurkie
[2009-01-29 09:33:04] - aba: I thought BoA's big deal was there were no closing costs. I guess things are different for refinancing? -Paul
[2009-01-29 09:27:32] -
- vinnie[2009-01-29 09:23:36] - vinnie: joking? ~a
[2009-01-29 09:20:08] - I talk about loganh all the time with my co-workers, just not on the mboard - vinnie
[2009-01-28 23:24:02] - a: I mentioned anarchocapitalism just the other day! Oh, wait, that was my journal... A lot of those are clearly college things, newspaper, clubs, anime, etc.-realted. So that explains it. We're all grown up now. *sniff* -- Xpovos
[2009-01-28 19:36:27] - well really, what more is there to say about that addictive cybersquatting anarchist taliban game boy, vihao? - pierce
[2009-01-28 19:22:13] - ... anarchocapitalism, wtc, snowday, slaves, shamanic, roanoke, monkeyfist, gifs, ghettos, ashcroft, arguement, animefest, unamerican, propaganda, kristin, kkk, heehee, gameboy, cybersquatting, armageddon, anarchist, addictive, vihao, taliban, sciences, realms, rammstein, objectionable, keller, freedomforum, ecpe, anthrax, unfairly, somethingawful, shrek, punitive. ~a
[2009-01-28 19:14:29] - things we used to talk about on the message board but now we don't (sorted by how often): collegiatetimes, civilized, aimster, treaty, moomoo, confederate, goodnight, win2k, trigun, 9786, conversatron, freedoms, schooling, dailyradar, 9787, naacp, escaflowne, ctonline, anarchy, webmail, viewheadlines, sonicnet, headlineid, cityid, 12858, mandrake, geforce, vh1, squires, mwt, dietrick, w3, truemeaningoflife, seanbaby, redpath, manson, lpnews, loganh, decay, smj, roles, privatization, objectivists, nudity, mickeyj, gba, fda, cslab, topid, swordfish. ~a
[2009-01-28 18:46:16] - gurkie: i'm trying to refi through BoA right now, and while they are giving me an awesome interest rate (4.875), they want me to pay most of the closing costs. i'm trying to negotiate with them, but it's probably not going to be worth it if i have to sink in so much money up front. - aba
[2009-01-28 16:11:33] - aaron: Is Charlotte Quinn a mortgage person (broker?) at Bank of America? If so please email me her email addy... ~gurkie
[2009-01-28 16:00:48] - mig: they must use their real name if they want the amazon "real name badge". ~a
[2009-01-28 15:29:00] - http://ftothefourth.blogspot.com/2009/01/question-of-trust.html if you are going to write an astroturf review of one of your products on amazon, you might want to not use your real name. - mig
[2009-01-28 14:26:05] - gurkie: was it charlotte quinn? i have her e-mail at home if you need it - aaron
[2009-01-28 13:13:43] - aaron: house prices in my complex are about what they were 12 months ago. however, when looking at individual sales the prices fluctuate wildly (some apts are selling for +15% their 08 assessment and some are selling for -10% their 08 assessment). ~a
[2009-01-28 13:12:01] - aaron: did u get ur mortgage through someone Dianne recommended? I am thinking of refinancing and my mom and I really liked the BofA rep that she recommmended, but I cant remember the reps name... ~gurkie
[2009-01-28 13:05:41] - or... have housing prices done anything in the past eight months? nothing nearly as drastic as the stock market, i'm pretty sure - aaron
[2009-01-28 13:05:05] - a: well, he moved it into his house. which is probably reasonably stable right now - aaron
[2009-01-28 13:03:20] - aaron: Although there was no way I would've held the stock past when I sold everything for my downpayment anyway. -Paul
[2009-01-28 13:02:54] - aaron: Yeah, not moving actually isn't a bad thing in this market.
-Paul[2009-01-28 12:34:36] - aaron: "i thought it was funny that it still hasn't moved since then" so i assume this was your implication but . . . paul would be better off if he had kept his money in sai because he probably moved it into a stock that dropped. ~a
[2009-01-28 12:22:06] - aaron: i still have sai stock. not much though. ~a
[2009-01-28 12:21:10] - paul: http://finance.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:SAI i know you dropped your SAIC stock because it wasn't moving... i thought it was funny that it still hasn't moved since then - aaron
[2009-01-28 11:33:43] - dark templar maelstorms all the mutalisks, regular templar psi storms to his hearts content. - mig
[2009-01-28 11:16:43] - why do you even need the dark templar? as a buffer? ~a
[2009-01-28 10:58:00] - mig: Oddly enough, that website you linked to appears to be blocked for me because: "The Websense category "Gambling" is filtered". -Paul
[2009-01-28 10:57:14] - mig: I hate you. -Paul
[2009-01-28 10:40:04] - http://www.tumeroks.com/starcraft-course-opened-for-college-earn-credits/ cal offers a course on starcraft. also included is a lecture on how to hold of swarms of mutalisks with 1 dark templar and 1 regular templar. - mig
[2009-01-28 10:21:20] - on the 13th: it'll be friday the 13th; it'll be unix timestamp 1234567890 around dinner time; i'll be in jamaica; it'll be the day before valentines day on which i'll be the best man at a wedding. ~a
[2009-01-28 09:31:54] - Not sure what happened, but the directional pad was working fine last night (maybe it required a restart). Thanks for the help. -Paul
[2009-01-27 15:09:18] - xpovos: yea... I can see having that large of a sale having a lot more to do with the increase in sales than distributing the videos on youtube... ~gurkie
[2009-01-27 12:33:40] - Hmm. Personally I bought the DVD collection (2 copies, one for me one as a gift) because it was deeply discounted on Amazon, not because of YouTube. $120 at store, $80 at Amazon, or $45 on super special. Hmm, indeed. -- Xpovos
[2009-01-27 12:23:20] - mig: Hmmm, that's a good point. Maybe that's wrong. I'll have to check tonight. -Paul
[2009-01-27 11:50:15] - of course I haven't owned a gamepad in a really long time. - mig
[2009-01-27 11:49:51] - most pc gamepads have a switch between the analog and directional. - mig
[2009-01-27 11:20:52] - a: Yeah, what Andrew said. It's an SNES emulator, which means it doesn't need the analog sticks, but the directional pad is pretty important and while looking for alternatives, I discovered that the analog sticks don't seem to register either (which might be by design). -Paul
[2009-01-27 11:11:52] - aha. ~a
[2009-01-27 11:06:17] - a: I think the issues is more tha the directional pad doesn't work, and the analog sticks (which might serve as an alternative, depending on driver-software communications) aren't helping. -- Xpovos
[2009-01-27 11:01:56] - paul, the analog sticks don't register in an NES emulator? i don't get it; should they? (keep in mind that i'm a pretty lame gamer) ~a
[2009-01-27 10:47:09] - mig: my statement was meant to indicate that I had no idea how to take the statement that they were shooting 3s... That I could see it as an argument for either side. ~gurkie
[2009-01-27 10:37:17] - a: Well, I can get it running fine, but I am having trouble getting my gamepad (Logitech Dual Shock) to work properly. It recognizes the buttons but the directional pad and analog sticks don't register in the emulator. -Paul
[2009-01-27 10:30:54] - i'll try it tonight. ~a
[2009-01-27 09:46:09] - Anybody here use the zsnes emulator in ubuntu? -Paul
[2009-01-27 08:00:33] - I've seen many an NBA blowout end with the winning team passing the ball around for 23 seconds and then shooting a 3. -Paul
[2009-01-27 08:00:06] - It's hard to tell if shooting 3's meant that they were trying to run the score up, or trying to take it easy on the opposing team. Oftentimes the easiest way to lay off the gas in basketball is to run the shot clock out and then take whatever shot you have (which is usually a 3 pointer). -Paul
[2009-01-26 16:21:01] - I could certainly see them just randomly chucking 3s and just happening to get enough of them in to keep stready scoring going. - mig
[2009-01-26 16:13:28] - while it probably doesn't exist, but I would like to see a box score for this game. Would certainly settle a lot of curiousities about it. - mig
[2009-01-26 16:12:44] - it could have been reserves in their excited for an opportunity to play. - mig
[2009-01-26 16:11:48] - simply saying they were shooting 3s without any context doesn't really mean anything one way or the other. - mig
[2009-01-26 16:11:24] - gurkie: would it be better if they ran set plays to get easy layups in? - mig
[2009-01-26 15:55:42] - the article said they were still shooting three pointers in the second half, to me that reads they were trying to bury the other team,,, Then again its possible they thought they would make less if they were shooting threes. ~gurkie
[2009-01-26 15:50:50] - At the very least there should have been an appropriate division for them to play in. - mig
[2009-01-26 15:43:21] - pierce: yeah I am surprised the school went on fielding a team for that long. While that particular game stung, I can't imagine the average losing margin being very good for them. - mig
[2009-01-26 15:30:51] - I realize that sports are supposed to be good motivators and teach all sorts of useful socialization, but I doubt those benefits outweigh the demoralizing factor of loss after loss after loss after loss. - pierce
[2009-01-26 15:28:42] - as I said, I think firing is too strong a response. the person I think should be fired is the one who is allowing the losing school to have a women's basketball program after four winless seasons. has it not occurred to them that maybe a school of 20 girls total should not be in this league at all? - pierce
[2009-01-26 15:25:56] - maybe that's what they were doing and the losing team still couldn't stop them from scoring, but that's not what it sounded like from the coach's statement. - pierce
[2009-01-26 15:25:36] - mig: that's a fair point, although I think you're overly hard on the "dogging it" approach. there are plenty of stages between 110% and "dogging it" where you're still putting out a reasonable amount of effort but allowing a badly outmatched team a chance. - pierce
[2009-01-26 15:08:09] - now granted I can't say I know the details of this situation, but it seems to me that if there were some really damning circumstances (kept playing starters for instance), i'm surprised it wouldn't have been mentioned in the article. - mig
[2009-01-26 15:04:34] - but, it seems like in these cases, the only alternative these coaches had was to either keep playing or intentionally play poorly, or just stop playing, which the latter 2 no sane coach would ever do. - mig
[2009-01-26 15:02:52] - that doesn't go against the "always do your best" philosophy. - mig
[2009-01-26 15:02:23] - a: well yeah, which is why they usually bring in reserves once it gets bad, which isn't all that bad because 1) you're not asking starters to dog it, 2) you're getting players who wouldn't normally get playtime the opportunity to do so. - mig
[2009-01-26 14:59:54] - mig: and yes, it's what I personally believe. I recognized that mine is not the only valid opinion here, but I hope you'll admit it's at least reasonable even if you disagree. And if it's reasonable, then it makes the school's position not stupid... just one you disagree with. You can still think their reaction (the firing) was stupid. - pierce
[2009-01-26 14:57:23] - mig: well obviously at least some people (the school, people nationwide offended by this situation) hold coaches to a higher standard than that. the simple sound bites ("give 110%") are fine under 99.9% of circumstances but when the 0.1% occurs the coach should know to react differently. 59-0 at the half is one of those 0.1% cases. - pierce
[2009-01-26 14:52:52] - mig: no no, not always. not if they're in middle/high school going up against a team that's half of their skill level. the coach (if the coach is a good one) will tell them to play a clean game and not to bully the other team. ~a
[2009-01-26 14:45:42] - The coach (if the coach is a good one) is always going to tell their players to do their best when they're playing for him/her. - mig
[2009-01-26 14:40:10] - pierce: well it seems that's what you personally think, but I'm talking about it more from a coaching standpoint. I doubt you'll find many coaches who'll say that. - mig
[2009-01-26 14:33:30] - (although even then, I'd say the same basic tenets hold albeit for different reasons). - pierce
[2009-01-26 14:32:17] - I understand that that gets complicated at the professional or olympic level, but since that's not what we're talking about here we can ignore that issue. - pierce
[2009-01-26 14:31:01] - in the end, it's just a game. you do the best you can (within the rules) to win. if victory is assured at the half, then it's not self-evident that doing the best you can, period, is the ideal or in anyone's interest. - pierce
[2009-01-26 14:30:09] - pierce: if it's not than what is? - mig
[2009-01-26 14:23:24] - mig: I disagree that that's the #1 mantra. If an NFL linebacker plays a pickup game with his family over labor day weekend, should he play his best? No, because someone might get injured. - pierce
[2009-01-26 14:21:44] - To tell them to do so otherwise kind of messes with their heads. - mig
[2009-01-26 14:20:49] - mig: right, which is why I also gave an explanation for how their actions are arguably not stupid (or at least, arguably right-minded but an overreaction). - pierce
[2009-01-26 14:19:25] - And I understand why they don't. It's the #1 mantra of sports, particularly something you want to instill in young athelets: always do your best. - mig
[2009-01-26 14:18:19] - the only thing left for them to do essentially, was not play, which the coach said he wasn't going to tell them to do. - mig
[2009-01-26 14:17:22] - I remember a similar situation a while ago that paul linked where a team essentially played all their reserves and only allowed those reserves who hadn't scored to shoot the ball and still crushed their opponent by a similar amount. - mig
[2009-01-26 14:15:48] - pierce: of course it's their perogative. that doesn't make their actions any less stupid. - mig
[2009-01-26 14:13:38] - a: while they are focusing on the coach and the ref, the statement of the coach seems to imply that it is indeed a reflection on the players of his team. - mig
[2009-01-26 13:55:33] - according to one of the commenters on that article, they didn't score in the last four minutes. there's no source and I hadn't heard that, so grain of salt and whatnot. But if it's true, then it's kind of damning to the "principle" they're claiming to champion. - pierce
[2009-01-26 13:48:24] - Well, they were up 59-0 at the half, so it looks like they did let up a little bit in the second half (maybe played their reserves more?) -Paul
[2009-01-26 13:29:50] - even not trying to score as much would probably make the team feel bad. like if they tried going slower or missing intentionally. everyone would know what was up - vinnie
[2009-01-26 13:28:59] - like mig said, what do they do if not try to score? I guess it's one thing if they're really showboating, like passing the ball to the opponents and stealing it back, but it sounds like they weren't doing that. if they just stand there and don't dribble and don't score, that seems like bad sportsmanship too - vinnie
[2009-01-26 13:18:37] - I agree that both sides of this issue are valid and I think firing is too strong a response, but it's the school's prerogative to say that there's more nuance to their competitive spirit than "win, by as much as you can" and the coach is the person they should expect to enforce that nuance. - pierce
[2009-01-26 13:16:00] - I guess it comes down to this question... once you realize that you outmatch the other team to that extent, do you feel pity for them, or is it like smelling blood in the water? winning a 100-point shutout tells me that that team saw the opportunity to not just beat, but crush their opponents and the school may not want that to be their reputation. - pierce
[2009-01-26 11:52:59] - well i think the focus has been on the coach and the ref. both the coach and the ref should have done something though i think this has been blown WAY out of proportion. the mistake was a very small one. ~a
[2009-01-26 10:06:53] - And I also think it's horrible to make the girls on the winning side feel ashamed of simply playing to their level of ability. - mig
[2009-01-26 10:03:27] - While I understand that it sucks for the team being shut out, but what precisely, is the other team supposed to do? not play? let them score? - mig
[2009-01-26 09:18:54] - http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/basketball/girls/news/story?id=3859935 Coach of the winning team in 100-0 game is fired for refusing to apologize. -Paul
[2009-01-23 17:13:19] - mig: this. - pierce
[2009-01-23 17:11:37] - lsd
[2009-01-23 17:04:29] - http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/obama-sides-wit.html horray for change! - mig
[2009-01-23 13:30:58] - a: new keyboard http://www.woot.com/ ~gurkie
[2009-01-23 13:30:03] - Aerobed should totally be kicking arse! Its awesome! ~gurkie
[2009-01-23 12:18:40] - Shamwow is in the running! -Paul
[2009-01-23 12:18:31] - http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/News_And_Analysis/__Story_Inserts/graphics/__SPORTS/A/_AS_SEEN_ON_TV_BRACKET/as_seen_on_tv_bracket_lg5.jpg I'm amused by this "competition" that cnbc is running about the best "as seen on tv" product. -Paul
[2009-01-23 12:15:38] - Xpovos: I would agree, but I would also suggest that these teams were not of remotely close ability. -Paul
[2009-01-23 11:50:55] - Paul: Hmm. Fine. But still, it has to be statistically highly improbable to have a shutout in a basketball game between teams of even remotely close ability. -- Xpovos
[2009-01-23 11:27:51] - Xpovos: There could also be a ton of unforced turovers. I imagine after getting so many steals and blocks against them, they might've had a lot of balls thrown out of bounds. -Paul
[2009-01-23 11:12:56] - And they didn't get fouled once in a game where the opponents are running up the score? -- Xpovos
[2009-01-23 10:57:32] - I'm a terrible basketball player, and I can probably average one in eleven, even contested, shots. And I assume they're playing with a women's regulation ball, so that would help. -- Xpovos
[2009-01-23 10:56:40] - Paul: Yeah, but not physically handicapped. Figure they had the ball stolen away half the time, and half their shots blocked, and the other team shot 75% FT, to get 100 even with three point shots, the terrible team gets off 11 clean shots. -- Xpovos
[2009-01-23 09:22:25] - Xpovos: I think by being from a school with only 20 girls (we're talking about a woman's basketball team) and also being from a "special" school. -Paul
[2009-01-23 09:00:12] - it's actually quite understandable. ~a
[2009-01-23 08:59:33] - xpovos: have you ever watched high school sports? ~a
[2009-01-23 08:23:25] - How do you get shut out in a basketball game?! -- Xpovos
[2009-01-23 08:22:03] - Paul: When I saw the score I figured it was a football game. Then I read the article. I totally understand the anti-running up the score bit, no complaints. Classless, and the apology doesn't really help much. Fortunately the other side seems not to care much. The real question, though, I think is: -- Xpovos
[2009-01-22 19:06:44] - http://www.splitreason.com/product/636 i thought this was pretty hilarious. - mig
[2009-01-22 17:25:06] - paul: i'm surprised they don't have mercy rules. - mig
[2009-01-22 17:23:05] - paul: you mean like an "official" list or just your local list of repositories? - mig
[2009-01-22 17:20:47] - Playing Madden just might make you a smarter NFL fan http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Playing-Madden-just-might-make-you-a-smarter-NFL;_ylt=AlOs2csmqSvBccxP7A3UC2Y5nYcB?urn=nfl,135840 -sam
[2009-01-22 16:22:31] - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/highschool/01/22/covenantschool100.ap/index.html Dallas school apologizes for 100-0 win, will seek to forfeit victory. -Paul
[2009-01-22 16:12:05] - Killer decapitates Va. Tech student http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/22/virginia.tech.death/index.html -sam
[2009-01-22 13:13:27] - i guess. i've never used it though so i'm not sure what exactly it all means and what effects it has. ~a
[2009-01-22 12:55:06] - a: Is that where the repositiories are essentially listed? -Paul
[2009-01-22 12:54:33] - Sam: No idea, I don't follow college basketball too much. It looks like we have a pretty solid record, though, so I think we have a good chance of being ranked after the upset. -Paul
[2009-01-22 12:35:23] - well i've never used it before, but ubuntu has something called "software sources". it's under system -> administration -> software sources. (that is a gui frontend for /etc/apt and /etc/update-manager and /etc/update-notifier) ~a
[2009-01-22 12:20:15] - paul: i didn't watch it but i heard that VT beat #1 WF. I wonder how high we would be ranked... -sam
[2009-01-22 11:47:24] - a: I don't have a standard install, I don't think (is there something called Ubuntu Mini OS or something?), although I am pretty sure I have gotten some updates because I've been told when it has downloaded them. -Paul
[2009-01-22 11:35:48] - if you want to confirm, then check /etc/apt/sources.list . if you have the newest ubuntu (as of january 2009), then you should see intrepid, intrepid-updates, universe, multiverse, and intrepid-security. if you have trouble reading that file, then i can explain further. ~a
[2009-01-22 11:32:46] - paul: if you have a standard install of ubuntu (which you might not), then you will already be checking for upgrades. ~a
[2009-01-22 11:30:33] - a: I mostly just want to make sure that I have the appropriate repositories on my netbook. -Paul
[2009-01-22 11:27:26] - a: I meant subscribe in that you need to "install" (for lack of a better term) a repository before your computer will check it for updates/new software. -Paul
[2009-01-22 11:10:29] - hmmm, i guess by "flavors", i'm not sure exactly what you mean. are you referring to universe and multiverse? or are you talking about medibuntu? ~a
[2009-01-22 11:08:43] - . . . it will get updated assuming you click on that thing that tells you to update the software (it's yellow if there are normal upgrades and it's red if there are security upgrades). ~a
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