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[2009-01-22 11:07:54] - in a manner of speaking yes (the nomenclature is wrong, but the concepts are correct).  you don't need to "subscribe" to the software.  if you install it, it will get updated.  ~a

[2009-01-22 11:01:44] - So... linux repositories. I'm assuming they're just collections of patches/software for various flavors of linux that I can "subscribe" to in order to make sure my system is up-to-date and to easily install new applications? -Paul

[2009-01-22 09:12:42] - Sam: Nice. Pre-season #6 so far. It'll be sweet if we can knock off Alabama in our first game next year. That should vault us up quite a bit. Did you see that our basketball team beat the #1 team last night? -Paul

[2009-01-21 21:52:11] - Also it's kind of cool to read about the stuff he's already done in office... Like apparently he had a campaign promise that was like "On my first day in office, I will do x...." and he actually did that on his first day. Maybe that was one reason why he had to go back to work in between his inaugural speech and the parade - aaron

[2009-01-21 21:48:52] - Also, their explanations are very thorough so you can apply your own judgment as to what does and doesn't constitute a lie. - aaron

[2009-01-21 21:48:23] - xpovos: Yes, I was worried about objectivity too, like they could easily just cherry pick stuff to tell whatever story they felt like telling. I looked at a few democrats and republicans though and they both had a lot of red stuff, so it looked fair to me. - aaron

[2009-01-21 20:24:42] - Also, truth in degrees? Isn't it a black/white kind of thing? -- Xpovos

[2009-01-21 20:24:31] - aaron: Nifty site... I wonder though about some of it.  I mean, I don't recall Ron Paul ever talking in the third person.  Also, on his page, even some of the truth meters seem slanted (though mostly in his favor) so I also wonder about objectivity.  -- Xpovos

[2009-01-21 18:26:03] - http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/personalities/barack-obama/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/ i thought these two pages on politifact were kind of cool; a list of promises/statements some candidates make and whether they're true or false. for obama it also has a list of promises he made and whether he's delivered on them - aaron

[2009-01-21 16:55:12] - college football pre-spring rankings for 2009 http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=902748 -sam

[2009-01-21 16:35:52] - aaron: I dont know how the data is transferred but when paul updated his maps they sent him a cd... I was thinking my bro in law could maybe use it but he doesnt have the 350 so I am not sure if it would work properly. I just assumed that if they sent a cd to update the garmin's software then there was a way to run it on multiple garmins... ~gurkie

[2009-01-21 16:34:48] - a: legal? possibly not... ~gurkie

[2009-01-21 14:46:14] - gurkie:  is that legal?  either way, i know my garmin can be mounted like a normal usb drive.  ~a

[2009-01-21 13:41:21] - Aaron: I know mine has a flash card reader on it, although I'm not sure how easy it is to remove something from it's internal memory to place on a flash card. -Paul

[2009-01-21 13:38:22] - gurkie: does it use a standard kind of memory? like a flash card or something? if so, that's a good idea - aaron

[2009-01-21 13:15:51] - you garmin owners should share maps with each other... Especially cause I think all three of you have the Nuvi 350. ~gurkie

[2009-01-21 12:48:05] - aba: I have a garmin too, the "detour" feature is great, it got my mom and I around some really bad traffic on 95. We didn't know the area at all, but it was just like "oh, get off on this exit, drive on this other road for 12 miles, and get back on 95". We saved a ton of time - aaron

[2009-01-21 12:44:25] - a: Oh! Geosautus, yeah he had some pretty cool levels. Miguel and I played his "world of color" level the first day he had the game - aaron

[2009-01-21 12:39:11] - xpovos: tomtom seems to give free updates (from what i saw on their website) but their units seem to review less well than the others.  -  aba

[2009-01-21 12:03:45] - aaron:  slashdot has an article about littlebigplanet level creation.  ~a

[2009-01-21 10:12:48] - ... but none of the brands give free updates, and they all seem about on par with the Garmin for cost of updating. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-21 10:12:20] - aba: Also, read the fine print, you get a free update (one) if they make a change to the maps within 6 months after you've purchased it, if you register the product.  So in a sense, you've got maps that are guaranteed to be accurate for a year, or close to it, and if not, you get an update for free.  Future upgrades are unneccesarily expensive, though.  -- Xpovos

[2009-01-21 09:40:49] - mig: I don't know how I missed that +/- button. I swear that wasn't there before. It worked wonders, though. Thanks. -Paul

[2009-01-21 09:28:36] - aba: Dee is right about the maps, though. Map updates cost money, although I haven't felt the need to get any updates yet. The mixing bowl is a little out of date, but I can handle that. -Paul

[2009-01-21 09:27:53] - aba: I'll second Xpovos' recommendation of the Nuvi 350. That's the brand I have and I've had very few complaints. It was $300 when I bought mine over a year ago, but I'm sure it's cheaper now (although there might be a better version out too). -Paul

[2009-01-20 21:42:13] - The only problem with Garmin is in a year your maps are out dated and you need to pay 69.95 on the Garmin website for an update. It's ridiculous. ~Dee

[2009-01-20 21:22:30] - aba: I just went through the same agonizing decisions myself.  After much research I went with a Garmin because their maps and routing software (currently) give the best results.  Magellin did OK, and Tom Tom was the worst of those three, causing several minutes of delays even on relatively short routes.  For under $200, I got a nuvi 350, which works well for me. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-20 18:54:58] - i'm thinking of buying a vehicle gps unit (<$200), and i was wondering if anyone had any recommendations about brands or specific models.  i've been doing some research but figuring out all the different map updating systems and costs has been a pain.  -  aba

[2009-01-20 17:29:47] - paul: on my thunderbird there is a +/- button on the message header that will compress the header. - mig

[2009-01-20 15:43:34] - mig: If there is a way to make it (specifically the message header section of the preview pane) more compact. -Paul

[2009-01-20 15:28:03] - s/a/paul

[2009-01-20 15:27:55] - a:  what do you need to know about thunderbird? - mig

[2009-01-20 14:15:16] - zing! - vinnie

[2009-01-20 14:14:40] - say what you will about John Roberts, at least he's consistent about misreading the constitution. - pierce

[2009-01-20 14:05:04] - i use mutt at home.  at work i've bounced between mutt and my work's webmail (zimbra).  i've never used sun/thunderbird, but i've heard good things.  what's more, i can't help but commend the usage of oss.  ~a

[2009-01-20 13:58:05] - Anybody here use Thunderbird and/or Sunbird? -paul

[2009-01-20 13:53:55] - From what I've heard on WTOP, the metro is an absolute mess. Maybe everybody stayed off the roads and decided to take public transit? -Paul

[2009-01-20 13:18:34] - a:  i was just going by what i was hearing on the radio this morning at around 8:30ish.  They were saying 66 was clogged past the 123 exit, which i took to get into work today so I don't know if that was actually true or not. - mig

[2009-01-20 12:51:40] - gurkie:  but the beltway is open.  why isn't anyone on the beltway?  ~a

[2009-01-20 12:43:41] - a: they closed all the bridges into the city except to busses so no cars should be on the roads... ~gurkie

[2009-01-20 11:34:00] - mig:  well i can't speak for later on, but right now there isn't a soul driving 66 inside or outside the beltway.  i'm not sure if 66 is closed inside the beltway, but i see one car every 10 seconds or so.  ~a

[2009-01-20 11:08:00] - a: Yeah, my commute to work today was the easiest I've had for a Tuesday in a long time. Practically no traffic whatsoever. -Paul

[2009-01-20 10:55:06] - according to traffic reports just stay away from 66. - mig

[2009-01-20 10:04:04] - maybe i will go into work.  ~a

[2009-01-20 10:03:11] - wtf?  there is like nobody on the roads.  i thought the roads today were going to be busy.  ~a

[2009-01-17 19:27:55] - Hey guys if you get a chance can you please create a user name and vote for a video that our friends' entered into the Avocado Video Bowl, their's is the Secret Life of Avocados. I'm thinking its worth 5 out of 5 stars :) They are currently in 3rd place for the grand prize. Thanks! http://avocadofiesta.com/contest/play.php?vid=204  ~Dee

[2009-01-16 14:59:14] - http://movies.ign.com/articles/945/945797p1.html Keanu as Spike in Cowboy Bebop movie? -Paul

[2009-01-16 12:26:25] - http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/store/product.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302028401&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442193327&bmUID=1231727688895 kind of ironic that hot topic is selling  tee shirts based on the "ungroundable" episode of south park - aaron

[2009-01-16 09:03:04] - a: She was a name actor, though, somehow.  As was Liam Neeson, but you might not have seen much he was in either. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-16 08:50:15] - god, i feel like i knew who portman was when i first watched star wars 1.  but i wouldn't have remembered her from leon and i had not seen anything else she was in.  ~a

[2009-01-16 08:47:12] - a: Yeah, but Transporter 2 sucked, so I'm not  convinced.  But so does Darren Aronofsky (Wrestler), it's like a smörgåsbord out there right now of good directors. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-16 08:43:58] - a: Sounds pretty accurate. actualy.  Except for any implications that said space fart is organic in nature. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-15 23:22:55] - xpovos:  fyi the writer and director of léon has a movie in theaters.  ~a

[2009-01-15 22:59:40] - according to slashdot, this is a space fart.  ~a

[2009-01-15 22:58:24] - Ignore the 'life' claims, they're meaningless.  This is fascinating science.  Particularly from a chemical point of view. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-15 16:57:27] - but what are you going to do about it?  ~a

[2009-01-15 16:24:39] - a:  ok, so i have reason to have major issues about the cost then. - mig

[2009-01-15 15:54:15] - aaron:  no, sorry.  i'll wait until vinnie is better :-P  ~a

[2009-01-15 14:53:20] - a: are you coming to pump it up? - aaron

[2009-01-15 14:23:51] - omg.  there are only .5 million residents of dc.  we may quintuple the people in dc?  ~a

[2009-01-15 14:19:02] - mig:  "Most of this new federal funding will be to deal with the huge influx of people, estimated 1.5 million to 2 million."  ~a

[2009-01-15 14:04:16] - i assume this inauguaration money is from tax money, yes? - mig

[2009-01-15 13:54:57] - Don't forget that the first inauguration came after a bitter court battle over the Florida recount. He probably didn't want to draw a ton of attention to his "victory" and also probably didn't have a ton of time to plan anything. -Paul

[2009-01-15 13:44:31] - it's also not really all that surprising that bush's 2nd inauguaration was more lavish, because a lot of people saw it as "vindication" for his unpopular policies. - mig

[2009-01-15 13:42:35] - mig: but accusing them of something is different then publishing it to the world, if they are wrong its better that the world doesnt know what they were accused of. ~gurkie

[2009-01-15 13:41:59] - paul: yea I saw that after posting my first comment... ~gurkie

[2009-01-15 13:41:59] - gurkie:  if they've gone through the steps to actually take the kids away, I think it's really obvious that thay are accusing them of something. - mig

[2009-01-15 13:41:31] - mig: yea I hadnt read the second article when I said that ... I assumed the second inauguration would be cheaper (but apparently it was the most expensive prior to Obama's) since no one would really care much that he had been re-elected... oops...~gurkie

[2009-01-15 13:41:25] - Gurkie: So it sounds like the second cost more than the first. -Paul

[2009-01-15 13:41:03] - Gurkie: "The festivities surrounding your inauguration later this month are slated to cost $40 million – making this the most expensive inauguration in history" From the article from 2005. -Paul

[2009-01-15 13:40:19] - but i suppose it's not surprising.  politicians rarely are frugal when they are celebrating themselves. - mig

[2009-01-15 13:39:24] - gurkie:  it's possible the 2nd inauguration was more expensive than the 1st, perhaps?  - mig

[2009-01-15 13:22:16] - The only reason the article was even printed was because of the shoprite incident... I doubt they ever give much information out to third parties. What if Child Protective Services falsely accuse parents of something, they would be sued... ~gurkie

[2009-01-15 13:12:33] - Why are they comparing Obama's inauguration costs to the cost of Bush's second inauguration.... I think looking at the cost of Bush's first inauguration would be a much better comparison. ~gurkie

[2009-01-15 12:43:53] - I suppose I have to admit that i do have some bias because I don't hold social services in general in high regard, but still, it seems like they could elaborate at least a tiny bit. - mig

[2009-01-15 12:41:23] - i realize that obviously they can't elaborate on all the details because of confidentiality, but there is really hardly any explanation whatsoever.  sounds really fishy. - mig

[2009-01-15 12:05:46] - yeah that's what i meant.  i could believe that.  ~a

[2009-01-15 11:57:53] - a: Well, I could see there being multiple allegations if a bunch of neighbors got together and said, "Something weird is going on in that house, we should probably call somebody.". -Paul

[2009-01-15 11:53:04] - "[DYFS] removes a child only if there is an imminent risk to the safety of child"  it sounds like they need more evidence than a single allegation though it's entirely possible they went above protocol.  it's also possible they had multiple (possibly false) allegations and went based on that alone.  anyways, the article doesn't really say.  ~a

[2009-01-15 11:44:13] - a: Oh, I have no idea. I'm just completely guessing. Although I will say it would be kinda dumb for abusive parents to have drawn so much attention to themselves. :-) -Paul

[2009-01-15 11:16:29] - so you don't think there was any abuse?  ~a

[2009-01-15 11:07:20] - a: Sounds like the neighbors were suspicious (kids didn't want to go home). I'm guessing the names and supposed odd behavior made some people concerned and so they called child services. -Paul

[2009-01-15 11:03:02] - interesting.  why do you think they were removed?  ~a

[2009-01-15 10:47:24] - http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6648877&page=1 Adolf Hitler and JoyceLynn Aryan Nation are taken away from their parents. -Paul

[2009-01-15 10:32:17] - Xpovos: Besides, what's $40 million when billions of dollars have been thrown about at every little whim lately? :-) -Paul

[2009-01-15 10:00:16] - vinnie: I note the difference, and agree.  I hardly think even $150M is an extravegant expenditure on this innauguration.  But the second article's position that $40M (which admittedly was a record at the time) was too much is faulty. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-15 09:56:43] - eh, I see the relation, but the second letter doesn't make that much sense to me. I'd guess most of the cost of the inauguration is really just handling the millions of people that will show up, which is something that needs to be done short of cancelling the inauguration. if a lot of the money is being spent on entertainment or whatever, that's different - vinnie

[2009-01-15 09:25:03] - how are those related?  the articles are written by different people.  what's more, obama didn't get us into the war in iraq (or at least not directly) but bush junior did.  ~a

[2009-01-15 08:45:33] - So, here's a fun little juxtaposition: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/14/barack-obama-inauguration-cost and http://weiner.house.gov/news_display.aspx?id=404 -- Xpovos

[2009-01-14 23:15:52] - Paul: At least the BCS uses some computers... -- Xpovos

[2009-01-14 19:58:43] - aaron: yay! ~Dee

[2009-01-14 11:40:38] - Despite how it might sound, I don't necessarily mean to bash the playoffs. I just hate it when people treat playoffs as they're some holy grail of perfection when I feel like it's actually far less acurate at determining the best team than the BCS is. -Paul

[2009-01-14 11:38:35] - Aaron: I think I agree, and that's something I've heard a lot (particularly with that most recent article I posted). Everybody complains that it would be boring to just throw the Giants and Titans into the super bowl whereas the playoffs produce tons of drama BECAUSE of the upsets. -Paul

[2009-01-14 11:32:15] - aaron:  the idea is to produce the best team, because you don't really know whether team A is actually the best out of teams B,C,D,E when they are only separated by a couple wins and with the uneven schedules they play. - mig

[2009-01-14 11:27:23] - aaron:  that's not necessarily true.  there are seasons where there's no clear best team.  The better teams are given various advantages for the playoffs.  They get a week off while other teams have to play, they are given home field advantage.  It allows the possibility for the supposadly better teams to lose, but it's not easy. - mig

[2009-01-14 11:23:19] - paul: i thought the point of things like playoffs, and the superbowl, and stuff like that was to prevent the best team from winning all the time. people like things to be unpredictable, if you just base the outcome on "who has the best record" or "who wins the most games out of five" then that's less exciting  - aaron

[2009-01-14 11:08:52] - mig: Give any team enough shots at another team and eventually they'll win a game. -Paul

[2009-01-14 11:08:19] - mig: What if we played chess against each other 5 times and you won the first four matches but I won the last one? Does it make any sense to say that I'm the best? No, it's ridiculous, but that's basically what the NFL does. -Paul

[2009-01-14 11:06:36] - http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/for_the_record/posts/40541-nfl-proves-even-playoffs-arent-perfect?eref=fromSI Here's another one about how it's hard to believe the playoffs produce the "best team". -Paul

[2009-01-14 11:04:22] - paul:  the regular season doesn't count as much as the playoffs, obviously.  So what if the Cowboys beat em twice in the regular season.  Given numerous advantages (bye week, home field), they lost to the Giants.  - mig

[2009-01-14 10:54:06] - paul: it's not like certain losses count more than others in the BCS either. - mig

[2009-01-14 10:53:02] - /shrug.  That's why the play the games.  I maintain that New England was not neraly as good as everybody thought they were either. - mig

[2009-01-14 10:51:50] - mig: The arguement against the BCS is always that people want things "settled on the field", but if that were the case, then how come when the Cowboys beat the Giants twice in the regular season, that didn't seem to count? -Paul

[2009-01-14 10:49:56] - mig: Look at the Giants schedule in 2007-2008. The vast majority of their wins came against crappy teams (49ers, Lions, Dolphins, Falcons). They went 0-4 against the teams they played in the playoffs (Cowboys, Packers, Patriots). Everybody thought it was one and done for them. -Paul

[2009-01-14 10:41:46] - mig: Also, I think even the most biased Giants fan has to admit that it took a few lucky plays for them to barely beat the Patriots (the miracle Eli escape and subsequent helmet catch). -Paul

[2009-01-14 10:41:00] - mig: They barely beat a Cowboys team (which had beaten them twice in the regular season, btw) and the reason they beat the Packers in OT was because Favre gift wrapped an INT for them. -Paul

[2009-01-14 09:59:50] - and i don't know how you can consider a 10-6 in the NFC east where both the wildcards came from to be mediocre. - mig

[2009-01-14 09:53:28] - paul:  i don't think winning 3 road games in a row and then adding another win on a neutral site is luck. - mig

[2009-01-14 09:45:06] - mig: The Giants were thoroughly mediocre for the first 17 weeks of the season and got rewarded by going on a nice little run (where they weren't even particularly dominant, just lucky) over the last 4 weeks or so. -Paul

[2009-01-14 09:43:28] - mig: And I don't see any way anybody can claim that the Giants of last year were better than they Patriots. Not only were the Patriots clearly more dominant in 18 out of 19 games, they also beat the Giants previously in the season. -Paul

[2009-01-14 09:41:44] - mig: I find it hard to believe that the NFL regular season has any significant meaning when crappy teams in horrible divisions like the Chargers and Cardinals are allowed in the postseason. -Paul

[2009-01-14 09:37:49] - :-D  ~a

[2009-01-14 08:57:05] - a: lol at your Appendix B joke. well done - vinnie

[2009-01-14 04:42:09] - aaron: it's probably best you steered clear of a doctor named A Alda - pierce

[2009-01-13 20:03:39] - aaron: Cool! Thanks, I hadn't seen anything new from them for years. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-13 18:51:24] - xpovos: http://www.peroxide-mocha.com/ peroxide mocha has a new album out. also, a bunch of free singles. their christmas album is very nice - aaron

[2009-01-13 17:51:46] - i think gurkie was suggesting that you find the "best" doctor within 10 miles instead of just any doctor within 10 miles.  ~a

[2009-01-13 17:49:51] - gurkie: I would have just picked the first one alphabetically but I was like, wait, they're going to be very busy with all of the lazy patients like me!!! so I found the doctor with the funniest name - aaron

[2009-01-13 17:49:11] - gurkie: no, Aetna (my insurance provider) had a search function, and i was like "ok, list me doctors within 10 miles" and it was like, 3,000 matches. so i was like "ok, doctors within 1 mile" and it was like, 300 matches... A Abrams, A Alda, etc... - aaron

[2009-01-13 17:32:41] - /s/record/argument argh, need to proofread before hitting enter. - mig

[2009-01-13 17:31:50] - Keep in mind that records are also not the definitive notion that team A is better than team B.  NE last year had a ridiculously soft schedule (and a really weak division) and even then was kind of shaky games against bad teams like the ravens.  You could make a record that they simply were not as good as their record made them out to be. - mig

[2009-01-13 17:29:16] - The way I think of it is that the NFL playoffs takes candidates who could vie for the title of best team.  They then give the teams who had the better regular seasons advantages (byes, home field), and if the lesser teams over come that, well maybe they are indeed better. - mig

[2009-01-13 17:25:34] - I also find the notion that teams like NY and Pittsburgh aren't the best team, just hot at the right time to be a bit of bullshit.  They aren't the best teamon paper but they prove it through the postseason. - mig

[2009-01-13 17:24:25] - the regular season DOES have meaning in the NFL.  You need a good season to even get in.  Occasionally you'll get an 8-8 team like this year, but for the most part the teams that make the playoffs are usually good teams. - mig

[2009-01-13 17:22:30] - paul:  there are some issues highlighted about the nfl playoffs that i certainly have an issue, but i really disagree with it being more wrong than the BCS. - mig

[2009-01-13 16:00:16] - mig: http://cfn.scout.com/2/829503.html This is kinda what I was getting at about the NFL playoffs. -Paul

[2009-01-13 15:21:40] - gurkie:  they might find Appendix B.  ~a

[2009-01-13 15:10:57] - I made an appointment with my doctor for tomorrow afternoon. Thanks for the advice, guys. :-) -Paul

[2009-01-13 15:06:05] - aaron: I think your method for picking a doctor leaves something to be desired... I am sooo picky with drs I would never just be like... hmm You! Did you check reviews or anything first? ~gurkie

[2009-01-13 15:05:22] - aaron: nor is he likely to as you no longer have an appendix... Unless of course he tells you that you have appendicitis in which case you might need a new dr. ~gurkie

[2009-01-13 12:39:11] - mig: no,  Dr Khan is my new doctor. he hasn't misdiagnosed my appendicitis yet - aaron

[2009-01-13 11:29:15] - mig: Well, it really only hurts if I move it or am laying down. :-) -Paul

[2009-01-13 11:25:31] - paul:  does your jaw still hurt or does it just feel funny? - mig

[2009-01-13 11:24:33] - Aaron: Yeah, I'm fine with the pain, the thing that bothers me is that sometimes I feel odd pressure on one side when closing my mouth or opening it wide. -Paul

[2009-01-13 11:24:13] - aaron:  was that the same doctor that said you were fine before your appendix burst? - mig

[2009-01-13 11:21:50] - paul: if you're lucky, it's just a tendon or ligament thing and it'll go away on its own. there's a lot of ligaments there - aaron

[2009-01-13 11:17:47] - Aaron: I think I know the building you're talking about, and I wonder if I can walk in there and just get somebody to check out my jaw, because I think there's a good chance there's nothing structurally wrong. -Paul

[2009-01-13 10:59:45] - bahaha.  that's a great story.  ~a

[2009-01-13 10:57:28] - I think there's literally like, 300 doctors less than a mile from your house. I remember going through the list and I ended up just arbitrarily picking "Dr Khan" because of Salute Your Shorts - aaron

[2009-01-13 10:56:43] - paul: and yes, you should get a regular MD. You're like a mile from Inova hospital, there's 100s of doctors there. That's where my doctor is. There's also some doctors in a building where 50 hits West Ox, which is even closer. - aaron

[2009-01-13 10:55:10] - dee: yes! i am definitely going i just want to coordinate with adrian so that i know what kind of room to get - aaron

[2009-01-13 10:52:43] - at the very least you want an MD.  ~a

[2009-01-13 10:32:06] - i don't think you want a chiropractor.  they mostly focus with the back and spine.  you especially don't want a "straights" chiropractor (i.e. witch doctor).  i'm not even sure which chiropractors are required to have medical licenses.  i don't know your doctor, but my doctor would be able to figure out what's wrong with my jaw.  ~a

[2009-01-13 10:22:12] - a: My doctor is a doctor of internal medicine, I wonder if he would be the right person to go see or if I should just schedule an appointment with a specialist (chiropractor)? -Paul

[2009-01-13 10:14:19] - hahaha.  no, but seriously, make an appointment with your doctor.  ~a

[2009-01-13 10:13:30] - if it happened in bed, don't file for disabilities at work.  ~a

[2009-01-13 10:11:15] - Anybody here ever have a dislocated jaw and/or have any suggestions on what to do if you think you might have one? -Paul

[2009-01-13 09:45:29] - dee: I don't think I will be able to, sorry. -Paul

[2009-01-13 09:45:19] - aba: Ah ha! I knew they had tried to do something shady. Thanks. -Paul

[2009-01-12 19:22:51] - paul:  http://consumerist.com/5112577/turbotax-price-hike-reversed-after-online-outcry  -  aba

[2009-01-12 16:48:38] - Is anyone planning on coming on this cruise with Dewey and I ? ~dee

[2009-01-12 16:21:27] - oh yeah i forgot about dividends.  ~a

[2009-01-12 16:08:59] - But as was noted below, you don't need to upgrade unless you sold stocks in the calendar year, or are applying stocks sold within the appropriate time to an adjacent calendar year.  Buying or holding stocks doesn't require forms unless your stocks paid you a shit-load of dividends. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-12 16:07:48] - gurkie: Stocks are complicated, because while it's strictly a capital gains, and so therefore you'd think should be covered by the same forms, which are included with the Basic, you have to provide proper documentation for sale of stocks, which removes it from basic. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-12 15:58:49] - eep, totally my bad. I thought that Turbotax Deluxe WAS Turbotax Basic. yeah I've been using Deluxe, which handles buying and selling of stocks. no clue on Basic. sorry for the misinformation :-/ - vinnie

[2009-01-12 14:24:06] - vinnie: if I sold my shares of a stock then you think the basic version of turbo tax handles it? From their webpage it doesnt look like they do... Are the versions that you buy online and software different? ~gurkie

[2009-01-12 14:09:22] - Vinnie: I really thought we were able to get Turbo Tax for cheaper previous years. I also saw mention of an increase in the cost on amazon when I read the customer reviews. Could be wrong, I guess. -Paul

[2009-01-12 14:08:21] - a: Good point. -Paul

[2009-01-12 14:08:02] - Gurkie: Ah, sorry. I misunderstood your question. Vinnie said the basic version of Turbo Tax handles taxes. I don't know what version my Dad and I have gotten in the past, but I was thinking we would get the deluxe version this year if we bought it. -Paul

[2009-01-12 14:05:50] - paul/gurkie:  you only need to worry if you're SELLING stocks.  the government doesn't care if you're buying stocks.  ~a

[2009-01-12 14:03:54] - paul: there are like 5 different versions of turbotax the housing one is seperate from the basic one, but then there is the next one up that appears to have stocks in it... I doubt the govt has any part in the pricing schema turbo tax uses on their different versions. ~gurkie

[2009-01-12 14:00:19] - I've been using the phrase "for a while now" for a while now - vinnie

[2009-01-12 13:59:12] - I've used Turbotax for a while now. I think you're only supposed to use the same copy if you live at the same address but there's no check within the app (I split with my dad). it's been $50 for fed + state for a while now. also, regular turbotax does do capital gains. I don't believe any of this has changed this year - vinnie

[2009-01-12 13:42:48] - aba: Yeah, I've heard from a few people who do it online and that definitely appeals to me, I just want to make sure I choose a good web application since I obviously would like to maximize my refund. -Paul

[2009-01-12 13:32:45] - paul: i used the h&r block web application last year and it was pretty painless.  i've used their in-person services in the past and while they did a good job, it was rather expensive.  -  aba

[2009-01-12 13:32:19] - I think the reason is that the government wants people to own houses, but doesn't necessarily feel the need to encourage investing. -Paul

[2009-01-12 13:31:40] - As to why you have to pay more... that's a question to ask the government and not me. :-) -Paul

[2009-01-12 13:31:14] - Gurkie: I don't know, I would have to look into it more, but I would guess that capital gains are not covered by the basic Turbo Tax. -Paul

[2009-01-12 13:27:28] - paul: do I need premier if I started buying stocks???? Why do I have to pay more for having stocks than for having a house... ~gurkie

[2009-01-12 10:46:30] - a: All I can tell you is that we've done it with no problems the past few years. -Paul

[2009-01-12 10:27:59] - i thought you could only split a copy if you lived at the same address.  ~a

[2009-01-12 10:26:55] - a: I thought it used to be obtainable for around $30 but now it seems like it's closer to $50. Also, I am worried about reports of only being allowed to submit one state return (my parents and I generally split the cost for a copy of Turbo Tax). -Paul

[2009-01-12 10:08:49] - what's the old price and the new price?  the only other software thing i know about is h&r block (because of the commercials).  ~a

[2009-01-12 10:06:18] - I also don't want to just do it myself because I just don't want to deal with the headache and uncertainty of everything considering I just bought my place last year and everything. -Paul

[2009-01-12 10:05:17] - Anybody have any recommendations on how I should get my taxes done this year? I usually use Turbo Tax but I heard they increased the price and added a bunch of fees. -Paul

[2009-01-11 19:19:03] - aba:  you're just jealous.  ~a

[2009-01-11 18:47:57] - *** Paul cries

[2009-01-09 21:36:47] - paul: fatty!  :P  -  aba

[2009-01-09 15:28:39] - a: By the time spring/summer rolls around (and I am inevitably still a fatty), then it's too late to care anymore so I can binge on ice cream until next winter. :-) -Paul

[2009-01-09 15:28:07] - a: Ironically, I tend to care more about nutrition in the winter because (a) I know I am far less active and (b) I start thinking about what I need to do to not be (to coin aba's term) a fatty during spring/summer. -Paul

[2009-01-09 15:26:49] - :'(  ~a

[2009-01-09 15:23:42] - a: just kidding.  you're not a fatty.  -  aba

[2009-01-09 15:23:22] - a: people who don't like being fatties!  fatty!  -  aba

[2009-01-09 15:01:40] - i only care about nutrition in the spring/summer.  who the heck cares about nutrition in the winter when you're all bundled up?  ~a

[2009-01-09 14:31:50] - a: Also, I wonder if some of the food items listed there are a little misleading. For instance, I think the Pei Wei entries are referring to one serving, but I'm guessing you get more than one serving with each order. -Paul

[2009-01-09 14:31:23] - a: yeah, it's a new website.  going specifically to a restaurant's website can be more useful if you already know where you're going..... i thought this website was neat because you could pull up listings by category (like "french fries") and compare across restaurants.  -  aba

[2009-01-09 13:50:58] - aba:  there aren't that many restaurants there.  i usually go to the company's website (and companies that don't have their nutrition information get an email from me)  ~a

[2009-01-09 13:23:05] - http://fatburgr.com/  -  aba

[2009-01-09 10:54:26] - a: or yeah, ok let's say 7:30, that works for me - aaron

[2009-01-09 10:53:12] - a: hmm. do you want to come over first? - aaron

[2009-01-09 10:47:01] - aaron:  ummm, i'm getting out of work at 5:00.  ~a

[2009-01-09 09:15:31] - but any time after 3:00 works - aaron

[2009-01-09 09:15:26] - a: well i'll probably get out of work around 2:30 so... some time like 3:00 would be ideal - aaron

[2009-01-08 16:27:27] - what time is best for you?  ~a

[2009-01-08 16:01:44] - a: wait, really? on friday? what time? i can go tomorrow if that's better - aaron

[2009-01-08 14:57:37] - i'll play pump it up tomorrow.  ~a

[2009-01-08 14:56:59] - i've noticed a healthy progression.  you need to pull out the root account to do crazy stuff.  the progression is:  what is "crazy" today, will be done automatically tomorrow.  ~a

[2009-01-08 14:54:58] - ddr_people: piu? - aaron

[2009-01-08 14:49:46] - aaron:  yeah there aren't a lot of differences (6 months of development between the two).  even with 8.10, when things inevitably break you have to pull out the sudo.  most of the time it's me that's breaking things though.  ~a

[2009-01-08 14:46:09] - a: hmm alright i think i'm running 8.04 right now. - aaron

[2009-01-08 14:33:18] - metro is selling Barack Obama inauguration commemorative SmartTrips... ~gurkie

[2009-01-08 14:17:02] - a: Miguel gave me something to try, though, so I will do that when I get home. -Paul

[2009-01-08 14:15:43] - a: I am trying to overwrite the icons which came with "web browser" with the firefox icons so that I can rebrand firefox myself. -Paul

[2009-01-08 14:13:12] - paul:  send me an email explaining the problem.  ~a

[2009-01-08 14:11:35] - gurkie:  what url was he using?  http://test.w.aporter.org/msg/ might work.  ~a

[2009-01-08 14:11:21] - a: he is trying to fix firefox, he is having trouble with the rebranding thingamabobber ~gurkie

[2009-01-08 14:10:31] - a: well then maybe thats not what the question was about, just something ive heard him talking about... I often tune him out ;-) ~gurkie

[2009-01-08 14:09:07] - i told paul to just plug in the mouse.  plugging in the mouse should just work (if it doesn't then that's a different story).  ~a

[2009-01-08 14:02:47] - also I think he wants to install a mouse... but i could be mistaken ~gurkie

[2009-01-08 14:02:32] - a: paul no longer has access to the msg board from work... the url you gave him stopped working ~gurkie

[2009-01-08 13:19:30] - plus, don't forget that paul got ubuntu pre-installed.  so it was already configured for his hardware and the proprietary drivers if there were any were probably already turned-on.  ~a

[2009-01-08 13:15:53] - however the dual monitors and the graphics driver did require me to type in my password.  in other words, root action was needed, but the work was done transparently.  i didn't have to open up a shell to perform those actions.  ~a

[2009-01-08 13:15:05] - aaron:  they're getting a bit better with that (i installed 8.10 on a few machines recently).    i did not need to use sudo to do any of those things.  i'm using a sound card and dual monitors with a proprietary graphics driver.  ~a

[2009-01-08 11:44:57] - in ubuntu, i had to sudo to do pretty much anything hardware related... setting up my dual monitors, my graphics card, my wireless card, and turning sound on all required me to mess with files that only root could touch - aaron

[2009-01-08 09:59:57] - mostly becuase i'm not sure why you'd want to copy something to a place only root can write too.  perhaps the write permissions on that directory shouldn't be root only. - mig

[2009-01-08 09:58:54] - i'd have to echo a's  question.  what exactly are you trying to do? - mig

[2009-01-08 08:57:11] - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,477450,00.html  This quote seems poorly phrased. "We're worried about hate speech. We're worried because hate speech eventually leads to pain and suffering and death." All I can think of is Yoda. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-08 08:47:57] - sudo make me a sandwich.  Or sudoku solve a puzzle? -- Xpovos

[2009-01-08 00:52:51] - if you want to go down this rabbit hole, you're looking for sudo . . . but you have to be careful using sudo, because you can damage your system if you do use it.  "sudo cp FILE1 FILE2"  ~a

[2009-01-08 00:51:53] - why do you want to copy a file you don't have the permissions to copy?  ~a

[2009-01-08 00:48:46] - paul:  can you describe what you're trying to do?  ~a

[2009-01-07 22:57:26] - God, I hate linux. How do login as root (or whatever I have to do) so I have proper permissions to copy files? :-P -Paul

[2009-01-07 15:34:07] - I'd love to see a more expensive flat-rate thing which would solve the transaction fee issue... like "pay $10, convert up to 250 songs to DRM-free!" - pierce

[2009-01-07 15:32:15] - I also agree that $0.30 is high for that, although charging *something* for it is consistent since they have to pay for the bandwidth to send you a new file.  it's sure as hell not $0.30 worth of bandwidth, but with transaction fees they'd probably end up giving 50% of their money to the credit card companies if they went much lower. - pierce

[2009-01-07 15:25:24] - given the title, "give us money and we'll remove drm from your music", I agree that it's sarcasm. - pierce

[2009-01-07 15:19:48] - a: i'm pretty sure that's sarcasm.  -  aba

[2009-01-07 15:12:21] - a: i know, i'm really annoyed they're charging for that service. i'm torn between just paying it, or pirating all of the songs i already purchased - aaron

[2009-01-07 14:59:13] - ". . . offering to remove their DRM from music you already bought for the low, low fee of $0.30 per song"  i hope that's read with sarcasm.  if not, i believe .30 is very very high.  ~a

[2009-01-07 14:49:51] - itunes is dropping drm    http://consumerist.com/5125362/apple-give-us-money-and-well-remove-drm-from-your-music  -  aba

[2009-01-07 12:39:29] - pierce:  in other words, a little bit of #2 and a little bit of #3.  ~a

[2009-01-07 12:36:36] - pierce:  yeah i agree and disagree with you.  i think language standards (and web standards and programming standards) need to be living things that change at an appropriate speed (not too slowly and not too quickly).  following standards needs to be done appropriately also (not too strictly and not too loosely)  ~a

[2009-01-07 12:15:11] - slang and new vocabulary which can be adopted through #3 quite a bit more judiciously then by saying, "Everyone is saying 'rad' all the time, therefore it's important that we codify this new word." -- Xpovos

[2009-01-07 12:14:23] - You can never go wrong with a simpsons reference.  I think choice number 2 is both the best and most likely, but not as extreme as you're presenting it.  Certainly there will always be non-standard language, but if the majority of people are educated and agree to abide by the standard and only change it when warranted, then the area outside of the standards is just (...)

[2009-01-07 12:08:51] - ...and (3) is kinda like saying you have a well trained dog because when "sit!" failed you started going "take a walk! sniff that other dog's butt!" - pierce

[2009-01-07 12:06:23] - xpovos: your solution can only have one of three results... (1) language never changes over time, (2) the chasm between standards and popular usage widens over time, or (3) the updates we make to the standards "just happen" to reflect popular usage... - pierce

[2009-01-07 11:07:24] - xpovos:  there was a spike of activity.  ~a

[2009-01-07 11:05:23] - a: Msg board 1/2009 like 1/2008 in what sense? -- Xpovos

[2009-01-07 10:25:23] - and by "this" i mean the meeting on march 25th in wallingford, not the url.  ~a

[2009-01-07 10:23:28] - pierce:  go to this and report back plz.  ~a

[2009-01-07 10:12:44] - i wonder if january 2009 will be anything like january 2008 on the message board.  ~a

[2009-01-07 09:22:23] - i didn't attack your "singular they" because i didn't notice.  it fit so well.  :-P  ~a

[2009-01-07 09:09:29] - Perhaps we should go 'post facto'? My solution fixes both 'rickroll' and 'he'.  "Rickrol"l is a non-word, though one that has cultural semantic value, just as "D'oh!" does.  "He" is the default pronoun in such cases as are being discussed, and use of "he or she", "they" "s/he", etc. are wrong until the standards are changed. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-07 09:07:34] - pierce: the purpose of standards is to establish rules, not reflect the mish-mash of reality.  It seems we disagree on that fundamental point, which will probably make the rest of this conversation difficult.  We've reached the premises, and we don't have the same starting points, therefore logic isn't going to help. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-07 02:04:26] - xpovos: the standards should reflect usage, not establish it.  some level of inertia is desirable so that the language doesn't become littered with trendy short-term words (like "rickroll"), but the problems with "he" as a gender-neutral are longstanding at this point. - pierce

[2009-01-06 23:48:44] - Also, I'm mildly disappointed no one attacked my sarcasm and use of a singular they.  -- Xpovos

[2009-01-06 23:48:14] - If you want to believe that the use of  he as a grammatical construct in those situations is an archaic, sexist, or even confusing in its own right problem that should be fixed; I can't fault that.  But the method for fixing it would be to change the standards--not to just stop using it because it's not PC, or is out of favor. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-06 23:46:37] - E.g.: it's = its; you're = your and other maladies of contractions.  To say nothing of the text speak ur = you're = your.  As the spelling of those words also affects the grammar, it also is a structural issue too.  -- Xpovos

[2009-01-06 23:44:55] - pierce: If by tolerant of variation you mean in flux because they're alive, I have to agree.  New words are created, old are lost, and spellings change frequently enough.  We're rapidly changing our language in many regards, though, IMO, few good. -- Xpovos

[2009-01-06 17:45:42] - xpovos: as examples go, you seemed to support our side of the argument by comparing it to programming languages.  we're more than happy to change programming languages to fix certain issues or meet specific needs, and human languages are only more tolerant of variation. - pierce

[2009-01-06 15:18:24] - I lol'd.  I told it to someone else.  They didn't think it was funny. -- Xpovos

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