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[2001-03-22 22:52:00] - Ayn Rand? Now there was a messed up lady. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 22:52:00] - yeah, but they are very similar. - mig

[2001-03-22 22:51:00] - Not really, Paul, objectivism is a philosophy of the mind, libertarianism is a philosophy of politics. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 22:51:00] - i actually don't know that much about objectivists.  :[  -  aba

[2001-03-22 22:51:00] - Because Rand hated libertarians, and objectivists aren't allowed to disagree with Rand. :P -logan

[2001-03-22 22:51:00] - I also admit to being neo-anarchical. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 22:51:00] - And if you think libertarians are weird, you haven't seen these objectivists.... -paul

[2001-03-22 22:50:00] - But objectivists have views that are very closely related to libertarians.... -paul

[2001-03-22 22:50:00] - I gladly admit to being weird. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 22:50:00] - libertarians border on anarchy.  people don't like that in general.  -  aba

[2001-03-22 22:49:00] - libertarians are for freedom for all, people don't like that in general. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 22:49:00] - because libertarians are weeeeeird.  ;)  -  aba

[2001-03-22 22:47:00] - The TAs that grade your projects are not competent coders. -logan

[2001-03-22 22:47:00] - I still don't understand how they could support Bush over Browne, and why they hate libertarians so much -paul

[2001-03-22 22:47:00] - What was the meeting about, Josh? -logan

[2001-03-22 22:47:00] - <><  here fishy fishy fishy ><>

[2001-03-22 22:46:00] - those objectivists really don't mix their ideas very well. - mig

[2001-03-22 22:43:00] - Yeah, I don't want to insult homosexuals by saying the CS dept is like them -paul

[2001-03-22 22:42:00] - I think objectivism might have good ideas, but I dislike the objectivists.... -paul

[2001-03-22 22:42:00] - flaming?  -  aba

[2001-03-22 22:41:00] - i mean to say they are not competent programmers. - mig

[2001-03-22 22:41:00] - Faggy is an innappropriate term.  We need something much more degrading.  Buggy. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 22:40:00] - this is just my opinion, but if someone can't figure out what my code does with the way i do comments, then they are competent programmers. - mig

[2001-03-22 22:40:00] - logan: i think they loved objectivist club meeting. :-) -jdb

[2001-03-22 22:40:00] - it's because cs is so faggy.  :D  -  aba

[2001-03-22 22:39:00] - i never really understood the whole "place comments everywhere" policy. - mig

[2001-03-22 22:38:00] - yeah, i never liked the tests they gave in 1044.  a lot of it seemed very opiniated to me. - mig

[2001-03-22 22:35:00] - if you read the notes, you can figure almost everything in that class on your own.  the only problems that i ever had on the exams were with the stupid vocabulary.  that stuff can be very subjective.  -  aba

[2001-03-22 22:32:00] - Not that they really even told us how to do functions in class.  I'm just lucky I've got a large groupd of CS major friends to pull my ass out of the fire. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 22:31:00] - Yep. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 22:30:00] - One of those deals where they give you a minimum number of functions you must imlement? -logan

[2001-03-22 22:29:00] - yes, the cs dept is pretty faggy. - mig

[2001-03-22 22:27:00] - I'm upset with them for making me use functions for -this- program, not functions in genreal.  I already wrote this program without functions, and it works better without. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 22:13:00] - http://truemeaningoflife.com/wisdom.php?topid=15653&responses=1  haha.  mocking people is always fun.  -  aba

[2001-03-22 21:52:00] - hehe.  or things like "dolphin sex".  :P  -  aba

[2001-03-22 21:49:00] - Thank you for the search capability adrian. It is fun to type in things like "macs" or "all your base" and see who has referenced them in the past - aaron

[2001-03-22 21:43:00] - And yes - Scheme for example is purely functional. I think the concept is interesting and fun - aaron

[2001-03-22 21:37:00] - there are only like 5 of 85 classes offered that allow non cs majors to enroll and those are restricted to cpes and acct majors (i think).  -  aba

[2001-03-22 21:36:00] - non cs majors are not allowed to enroll in their classes.  -  aba

[2001-03-22 21:34:00] - What new rule? -logan

[2001-03-22 21:33:00] - the followers of dave have emailed me too.  :O  -  aba

[2001-03-22 21:33:00] - You know, there are programming languages that consist of nothing but functions. -logan

[2001-03-22 21:33:00] - i already took 1044, but now because of their new rule, i am screwed for all my higher level classes.  i am not a smart programmer like the rest of you.  :'(  -  aba

[2001-03-22 21:30:00] - Well the followers of Dave - aaron

[2001-03-22 21:29:00] - Well okay maybe not stalking but still it was funny. Obviously vinnie wasn't expecting them, because he wasn't here - aaron

[2001-03-22 21:29:00] - dave people? -logan

[2001-03-22 21:29:00] - they just came by and asked if he was here, and when he would be back, said they had been corresponding with him by e-mail - aaron

[2001-03-22 21:28:00] - YAY the dave people are stalking vinnie - aaron

[2001-03-22 21:26:00] - You can always just cbe 1044. :P -logan

[2001-03-22 21:22:00] - Adrian, if there are more than 15 "accesses" within one minute, the red portion of the bar seems to be too high

[2001-03-22 21:19:00] - same here.  i think the only bad things about functions are the gazillion comments that 1044 makes people write up for each function.  a lot of the time you have more comments than actual code.  -  aba

[2001-03-22 21:11:00] - Some things, like a "Knights Tour" program, would just be an absolute headache without functions - aaron

[2001-03-22 21:10:00] - I like functions. I can't perceive writing any sizable program without them. - aaron

[2001-03-22 21:01:00] - and logan, i am sure you have got through most of your four years with barely anyone knowing who you are.  ;)  -  aba

[2001-03-22 21:00:00] - aren't they supposed to be a good thing?  -  aba

[2001-03-22 21:00:00] - what's so bad about functions?  -  aba

[2001-03-22 20:53:00] - xpovos is apparently upset because the cs department is making him use functions in his program - just cluing you folks in - aaron

[2001-03-22 20:45:00] - I managed to go most of my four years with barely anyone in the CS Dept. knowing who I am. *grin* -logan

[2001-03-22 20:35:00] - the cs dept is faggy.  we already determined that.  -  aba

[2001-03-22 20:34:00] - the library is scary because they only have imacs and crappy computers.  oh, wait.  those are the same.  never mind.  :D  -  aba

[2001-03-22 20:04:00] - I would like to say, once and for all, on the record: FUCK THE COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT  It's really a shame you don't have caps, adrian. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 18:42:00] - Christine Jefferies? -logan

[2001-03-22 18:38:00] - christine jefferies

[2001-03-22 17:39:00] - Because it rhymes with scary. -logan

[2001-03-22 17:13:00] - and how can the rest of your day be busy? it's almost over. -dave

[2001-03-22 17:13:00] - why's the library scary? -dave

[2001-03-22 17:10:00] - hope you guys have fun at your objectivist meeting and at the cohen thing.  post your responses please!    -  aba

[2001-03-22 17:09:00] - anyway.  off to the rest of my busybusy day.  -  aba

[2001-03-22 17:09:00] - the library is a weird and scary place.  ;)  -  aba

[2001-03-22 17:09:00] - hm.  i didn't mean to double post that.  -  aba

[2001-03-22 17:04:00] - http://www.forum3000.org/matrix/forum_std_answers?cookie=forever&lm=985283478

[2001-03-22 17:01:00] - http://www.forum3000.org/matrix/forum_std_answers?cookie=forever&lm=985283478

[2001-03-22 17:01:00] - ack, ok.... vinnie, logan: i got a ticket for each of you. -jdb

[2001-03-22 16:31:00] - josh logan

[2001-03-22 14:57:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/?a=4&d=paul+is+gay

[2001-03-22 14:47:00] - this link might help - http://www.aynrand.org/objectivism/essentials.html - vinnie

[2001-03-22 14:46:00] - ok, planning on getting 4 tickets (me, logan, vinnie, another friend) -jdb

[2001-03-22 14:37:00] - It is a meeting of objectivists. -logan

[2001-03-22 14:31:00] - test  ~a

[2001-03-22 14:27:00] - what's an objectivist meeting? -dave

[2001-03-22 14:24:00] - what's an objectivist meeting? -dave

[2001-03-22 12:50:00] - http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2001/03/22/guys/  yay for the american military!

[2001-03-22 12:25:00] - if you still haven't left josh, I'd be interested in getting a nader ticket - vinnie

[2001-03-22 11:39:00] - http://www.forum3000.org/matrix/forum_std_answers?cookie=nerdy&lm=985277852

[2001-03-22 11:33:00] - ok paul and i are going to be at both the objectivist meeting and cohen talk. we'll be going out to eat afterwards. if you're interested in joining us, just show up. :-) -jdb

[2001-03-22 11:26:00] - paul: i can do that -- or.. we could wait till after cohen to eat 8:30ish. would you want to eat on campus or downtown? -jdb

[2001-03-22 11:23:00] - Ok, cool. Thanks for the info. Is anybody interested in meeting early for dinner and then going to hear both speakers? -paul

[2001-03-22 11:20:00] - paul: i'm going to leave the objectivist meeting early if it's not done in time (i don't think there will be a speaker, more organizational -- possibly a video). tickets are required for nader. tickets are not required for cohen (i think). -jdb

[2001-03-22 11:12:00] - http://truemeaningoflife.com/wisdom.php?topid=15570&responses=1

[2001-03-22 11:08:00] - http://truemeaningoflife.com/wisdom.php?topid=15491&responses=1

[2001-03-22 11:07:00] - Will this objectivist speaker be done by 7:15 or whatever time is necessary to hear Cohen speak? Also, are tickets required for either speaker? -paul

[2001-03-22 10:53:00] - http://www.aynrand.org/ -jdb

[2001-03-22 10:50:00] - http://www.forum3000.org/    ayn rand and objectivism.  -  aba

[2001-03-22 10:49:00] - paul: the objectivist club is meeting at 6:00pm in Squires 232. the cohen talk is at 7:30pm in burruss hall. i'll be at both. :-) -jdb

[2001-03-22 10:24:00] - Is Ohen and Objectivist club speaker at the same time tonight? -paul

[2001-03-22 10:21:00] - i think most of us already got ours.  slacker.  ;)  -  aba

[2001-03-22 09:58:00] - Josh, grab me one. :P -logan

[2001-03-22 08:57:00] - if i were to go to squires today to see about nader tickets, how many of you would be interested in having me pick up one for ya? -jdb

[2001-03-22 08:46:00] - also, there is an objectivist club meeting this evening -- something many of you libertarians would enjoy. :) -jdb

[2001-03-22 08:45:00] - everyone going to hear cohen speak tonight? -jdb

[2001-03-22 08:20:00] - Well, I'm too lazy to go through the archives, and even if I did I'd end up upsetting someone somehow, so I'll just let it all slide for now. -- Xpovos

[2001-03-22 03:24:00] - also, I wish i'd sat in on the capitalism discussions. the idea of anarchocapitalism actually seems like it might work, but I haven't fully thought it through yet - vinnie

[2001-03-22 03:22:00] - boy, it's been ages since I've been here! Cool design, adrian :) me like - vinnie

[2001-03-22 00:17:00] - And wearing revealing clothing most likely increases the chances of rape, so maybe we should tax all dresses that are cut above the calf. :P -logan

[2001-03-22 00:06:00] - Ping Pong at squires at 3:00 Thursday -paul

[2001-03-21 23:53:00] - I am offended that book are being left out of this tax, women are often portrayed as objects of sexual gratification in books, why not tax them? -paul

[2001-03-21 23:40:00] - so it does 2 things.  it punishes something that is not responsible, and it doesn't solve the problem they are trying to address(stopping sex violence). - mig

[2001-03-21 23:39:00] - i'll just answer you question logan with this:  "if you go out and shoot someone because some shithead with a guitar told you to, then you're a shithead too and you would have done it anyway." pete townshend. - mig

[2001-03-21 23:15:00] - http://www.angolarodeo.com/ -jdb

[2001-03-21 23:11:00] - I say even if there exists a correlation between a product and supposed harm that that is no justification for taxes -paul

[2001-03-21 23:07:00] - http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story109221.html -jdb

[2001-03-21 23:00:00] - I should patent that model, so that the government would have to pay me royalties on any revenue they make from such taxes. -logan

[2001-03-21 22:49:00] - So what do you think of the practice of drawing a questionable correlation between a product and a supposed harm and using that as justification for levying taxes on said product? -logan

[2001-03-21 22:48:00] - What a moronic idea from an otherwise sensible state. -logan

[2001-03-21 20:41:00] - http://www.dailyradar.com/news/game_news_7387.html -paul

[2001-03-21 20:35:00] - Yay Bob Jones University! -paul

[2001-03-21 16:21:00] - http://www.bju.edu/faith/vol2num5/false.html -jdb

[2001-03-21 16:18:00] - Women suck, misogynists suck, canada sucks.... Can't we all just get along? -paul

[2001-03-21 16:10:00] - now we really have a reason to say canada sucks! - mig

[2001-03-21 16:08:00] - http://www.stomped.com/published/jcal985046342_1_1.html  booooo! - mig

[2001-03-21 15:02:00] - http://www7.scu.edu.au/programme/fullpapers/1921/com1921.htm  <-- here is how google works  ~a

[2001-03-21 14:41:00] - misogynists suck  ~a

[2001-03-21 14:40:00] - "boo to women!" ?!?!  ~a

[2001-03-21 14:02:00] - Especially since the "second" elevator he came to (and all the ones afterward) would already be clean! -logan

[2001-03-21 13:37:00] - Maybe he cleaned the outside, too

[2001-03-21 13:30:00] - even if he had to wait for the elevator to come to each floor to clean it, it shouldn't have taken 4 days. -dave

[2001-03-21 13:29:00] - yeah, i told you that i had to force add OO and would have to force add Data II. you then said that data I might be different. -dave

[2001-03-21 13:20:00] - Yeah, there are always lots of non-CS majors who are trying to force-add the class at the beginning of the semester -paul

[2001-03-21 12:57:00] - He apparently thought that each floor had a different elevator and cleaned the same elevator 12 times. - Aaron

[2001-03-21 12:57:00] - "There are twelve of them, one on each floor, and sometimes some of them are not there."

[2001-03-21 12:56:00] - A janitor at a Marriott Hotel was fired for taking four days to clean an elevator. When asked why it took so long, before his dismissal he said:

[2001-03-21 12:53:00] - http://www.voiceone.com/html/strange.html This site has lots and lots of very funny stuff - aaron

[2001-03-21 12:32:00] - my advisor said to wait until the first day of class and then try to force add.  :\  and i am sorry dave, but i don't remember that.  are you sure you told me?  -  aba

[2001-03-21 11:22:00] - don't you remember? i think it was at lunch yesterday -dave

[2001-03-21 11:21:00] - i told you that already aparna. that the cs classes were cs majors only -dave

[2001-03-21 11:02:00] - You'll get no argument from me, the CS dept sucks big time. -paul

[2001-03-21 10:48:00] - boo to women!

[2001-03-21 10:44:00] - boo to cs! - mig

[2001-03-21 10:41:00] - logan is someone that josh knows, and he and some other people had a huge discussion last night.  -  aba

[2001-03-21 10:39:00] - the cs dept really sucks.  i just found out that they made almost every single course they offer into a cs major only class.  :(  -  aba

[2001-03-21 10:31:00] - Whut the? Who is logan, how and how did she get in first place without me noticing? -- Xpovos

[2001-03-21 03:31:00] - http://www.lileks.com/institute/interiors/bhg/index.html :P -jdb

[2001-03-21 02:58:00] - i don't think i said that very well. so it goes, it's late. -dave

[2001-03-21 02:57:00] - so the government just has to decide whether it thinks the benefits microsoft gives outweigh the problems it brings -dave

[2001-03-21 02:56:00] - i think you're right, but it's all a balance. all companies get people mad at them.  -dave

[2001-03-21 02:40:00] - and they have. - mig

[2001-03-21 02:39:00] - the problem with businesses like microsoft, they </i>can</i> bend rules quite a bit, and get people mad at them, but there are still so many people dependant on microsoft - mig

[2001-03-21 02:36:00] - yeah, it doesn't really make sense.  i mean debt is a problem, but i don't see how this is supposed to solve it. - mig

[2001-03-21 02:31:00] - i mean, they're supposed to do all those credit checks and stuff as well as determine how much your assets are worth -dave

[2001-03-21 02:30:00] - it's almost the credit card companies' own fault if they lose money from someone declaring bankruptcy -dave

[2001-03-21 02:29:00] - what you said about big business bending and violating consumer rights may be true, but if they do that too much, they'll lose business and become a small business once again -dave

[2001-03-21 02:26:00] - there's a bill being proposed that makes it harder to declare bankrupcy, and guess who's heavily supporting it.... credit card companies. - mig

[2001-03-21 02:25:00] - my main problem with big business is that often times consumer rights get bent or violated, and since the businesses are what decide what public officials get into office, so no one cares.  - mig

[2001-03-21 02:24:00] - i preferred fatbrain until they were bought out by b&n. i never buy things from amazon, see http://isbn.nu/ , but it's a good resource for reviews, info, etc. -jdb

[2001-03-21 02:08:00] - http://www.noamazon.com/

[2001-03-21 02:08:00] - amazon.com is bad, mmmmmkay?  ~a

[2001-03-21 01:52:00] - speaking of, i really need to read http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060900075/ -jdb

[2001-03-21 01:46:00] - I don't think that it is possible to be content 100% of the time without some massive mind-inducing drugs :-) -paul

[2001-03-21 01:45:00] - i don't think it might be possible to be content 100% of the time.  but then again it might be.  - mig

[2001-03-21 01:42:00] - Not all the time, but I am sure everyone has their moments -paul

[2001-03-21 01:40:00] - hmmm, i wonder if anyone out there is truly content -jdb

[2001-03-21 01:38:00] - We always want more -paul

[2001-03-21 01:35:00] - then again, i guess human nature doesn't let us be content with what we have. - mig

[2001-03-21 01:29:00] - and in the end, it sometimes turns out to be the process of getting more that they like and not the actual stuff itself -dave

[2001-03-21 01:28:00] - i think perfect competition doesn't exist because people always want more than what they have -dave

[2001-03-21 01:28:00] - Because perfect comptetition requires homogenous products, you know that from econ miguel :-) -paul

[2001-03-21 01:28:00] - what? money isn't happiness? awwww -dave

[2001-03-21 01:26:00] - yes, but i don't understand why we can't have a perfect competition situation - mig

[2001-03-21 01:24:00] - Because there are a finite number of consumers, and they aren't going to buy one product from every producer.  So, unless you have something unique, you have to destroy everyone else. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:23:00] - Same reason why you play diplomacy cut-throat, to win -paul

[2001-03-21 01:22:00] - i mean i like competition, but i don't understand why everyone has to play cut-throat - mig

[2001-03-21 01:20:00] - In pure capitalism, though, only the truly lazy would have trouble making a living -paul

[2001-03-21 01:20:00] - I don't think that capitalism is a zero-sum game. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:19:00] - i don't agree with survival of the fittest capitalism. - mig

[2001-03-21 01:17:00] - And I think that's a pretty fair way to run things... Yay for capitalism. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:17:00] - I desire money only as a means to give myself the resources to pursue what really makes me happy... if that consisted of something that was of value to someone, I could simply let them support me, and I would not need money. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:16:00] - I forget, what are we arguing about right now? -paul

[2001-03-21 01:15:00] - In any country, money is power.  But what is the most fair method of obtaining money? :P -logan

[2001-03-21 01:14:00] - neither do i.  this whole concept of money = happiness is not something i'm very comfortable with. - mig

[2001-03-21 01:14:00] - Really?  I see society telling people just the opposite, usually. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:13:00] - Because money can buy people happiness for the most part -paul

[2001-03-21 01:13:00] - in this country, money is pretty much the absolute power.  if you take away the government, that won't change. - mig

[2001-03-21 01:13:00] - I think the number of people for whom money is an end is relatively few.  Maybe it's my poor upbringing, and I simply haven't been around many people who simply desire money for itself. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:12:00] - our society has pretty much told us that money is all that matters. - mig

[2001-03-21 01:11:00] - that might be true for you, but what about all those people who work at jobs they hate,people in the stock market, and all the bill gates of the world? - mig

[2001-03-21 01:11:00] - And this sometimes leads to some people exercising their control over other people in bad ways -paul

[2001-03-21 01:10:00] - Most people's ultimate desire is to be happy.  Unfortunately for some people, attaining power over others makes them happy and money is a way to attain that power -paul

[2001-03-21 01:08:00] - You could just as easily say our lives revolve around urination. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:08:00] - I go to work to earn money, but that is not my ultimate desire. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:08:00] - Good point, libertarianism hasn't struck a balance. But I believe that if implemented, it would be a good balance -paul

[2001-03-21 01:07:00] - Goodnight Aparna. -paul

[2001-03-21 01:07:00] - Good night aba -logan

[2001-03-21 01:07:00] - why do we go to work each day?  why do we go to school?  to earn money. - mig

[2001-03-21 01:07:00] - I don't believe people live for money.  Money is just a means.  People live for their ends... whether it be a nice house, a computer, sex, food, or whatever.  Money is just the means. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:06:00] - I don't think libertarianism has struck any sort of balance, as we do not have a libertarian society.  The question is how much anarchism will maximize the "libertarianness" of a society. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:06:00] - i have my super long day of class tomorrow, so i need to get to bed.  hope to see you stick around, logan.  :)    gnight all.  -  aba

[2001-03-21 01:05:00] - How do our lives revolve around money? -logan

[2001-03-21 01:04:00] - Sounds good, but the question is how far to take it, I think libertarianism has struck a pretty good balance between government and individual freedom.... -paul

[2001-03-21 01:04:00] - Order comes from nature (as does everything else), unless you believe life was put here through supernatural means or something. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:04:00] - but you see, that doesn't solve the problem that our entire lives revolve around money.  - mig

[2001-03-21 01:04:00] - but you see, that doesn't solve the problem that our entire lives revolve around money.  - mig

[2001-03-21 01:03:00] - The idea of anarchocapitalism isn't to replace government with corporations.  It's to get rid of government altogether (or as much as possible).  It is a maximization of individual freedom. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:02:00] - Pillage is profitable for the pillager... -paul

[2001-03-21 01:02:00] - aba, that's a good point... it could be that enough people realize the necessity to fund a national defense that people wouldn't have to be forced to pay... -logan

[2001-03-21 01:01:00] - Whether or not it is profitable is not the point, because nobody is going to want to spend money to protect someone else, so we are left with a fragmented and weak defense against invasion -paul

[2001-03-21 01:01:00] - If, because of human nature, it is not possible to profit, then a minimal government might be necessary to force people to fund an unprofitable venture. -logan

[2001-03-21 01:01:00] - the problem is without government, then it's basically whoever has the money makes the rules. and i have huge problems with that. - mig

[2001-03-21 01:01:00] - um, i consider rape and pillage to definitely not be profitable.  ;)  -  aba

[2001-03-21 01:00:00] - nature is a great thing, but it's very unpredictable.  therefore it is chaos. - mig

[2001-03-21 01:00:00] - Perhaps... the question of public goods... It is questionable whether a profit can be made by defending against foreign threats. -logan

[2001-03-21 00:59:00] - nature is chaos.  nature isn't order.  ??  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:59:00] - but if someone seized power in a nation with no government(say, a big corporation), who would stop them from abusing their power.  if someone abuses power within a democratic government, we can vote him out. - mig

[2001-03-21 00:58:00] - Well, nature in general, upon which human nature is derived. -logan

[2001-03-21 00:57:00] - Don't you think a government would be necessary for national defense though? -paul

[2001-03-21 00:56:00] - human nature sucks.  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:56:00] - discordianism  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:56:00] - I don't care for chaos.  I'm an anarchist because I believe that order comes from human nature, not government.  Sort of like the concept of natural law. -logan

[2001-03-21 00:55:00] - i agree with a lot of libretarian ideas, but there still should be some form of government. - mig

[2001-03-21 00:55:00] - if you ever get around to it, you could pick up the illuminatus trilogy.  weirdweird book.  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:55:00] - What is weird? -paul

[2001-03-21 00:55:00] - live = love, sorry :-( -paul

[2001-03-21 00:54:00] - oh.  hm.  it is weird.  i tried to figure it out once.  i got a headache.  :D  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:54:00] - Discordia was the goddess of strife, I think she is asking if you live chaos :-) -paul

[2001-03-21 00:54:00] - I don't really know what discordianism is. -logan

[2001-03-21 00:53:00] - And even then I don't know if it would work that well, since I am paranoid of an alien invasion :-) -paul

[2001-03-21 00:52:00] - Anarchism is nice, but it would only work on a worldwide scale, and that isn't happening anytime soon -paul

[2001-03-21 00:52:00] - are you a discordian or something?  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:51:00] - The public schools I went to sucked royally, and I hear of very few good ones.  Maybe in rich white neighborhoods... (; -logan

[2001-03-21 00:50:00] - Paul, now I simply have to turn you to the ways of anarchism... -logan

[2001-03-21 00:50:00] - egypt does indeed have public schools, but they pretty much sucked back then (dunno if they still do).  there was no middle ground between the public schools and the private schools (whereas in america the public schools don't suck for the most part)

[2001-03-21 00:50:00] - I don't think it is worthwhile to generally fuck over the populace, which is why I think capitalism works. -logan

[2001-03-21 00:49:00] - I used to be a republican until I realized there were people out there just like them except more tolerant and more freedom loving -paul

[2001-03-21 00:49:00] - http://www.nadersucks.org/ -logan

[2001-03-21 00:48:00] - Question: Does that affect your opinion on libertarian stances on the issues? -paul

[2001-03-21 00:48:00] - i dunno.  i used to be a libertarian until i stopped being so naive as to think that the private industry would have enough morals not to fuck over the entire populace if the govt wasn't around.  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:48:00] - Does Egypt have public schools?  The existence of government subsidized schools pushes cheap private schools out of the market. -logan

[2001-03-21 00:46:00] - I don't know any rich white libertarians, because I don't know any rich white people. :P -logan

[2001-03-21 00:46:00] - I wish I was a rich... :-( -paul

[2001-03-21 00:46:00] - i dunno about that logan.  before i moved here, i lived in egypt where all the good schools were private and cost a fuckload of money.  :\  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:45:00] - not free totally.  you pay taxes.  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:44:00] - my problem with libertarians are that far too many of them are rich white people who sit in their nice neighbourhoods and wonder people are complaining about the state of the world.  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:44:00] - aba, I think if we weren't taxed to support government schools, the private sector would step in and there would be education that is just as cheap, but better. -logan

[2001-03-21 00:43:00] - Doesn't cost too much? They're free.... -paul

[2001-03-21 00:43:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33971-2001Mar20.html -paul

[2001-03-21 00:43:00] - Isn't Nader irrationally paranoid regarding anything to do with radiation? -logan

[2001-03-21 00:43:00] - the reason why i think govt run schools are good is because (in most cases) it is a decent education which doesn't cost all that much.  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:42:00] - Still far too many for my liking.... :-) -paul

[2001-03-21 00:42:00] - paul, even *i* can't do that.  ;)  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:41:00] - hah.  fewer commies than libertarians.  -  aba

[2001-03-21 00:41:00] - Now you have to take over #1 in total posts.... ever :-) -paul

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