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[2001-04-23 10:22:00] - too bad they can't make it like the game boy, that would be totally awesome. stupid big cds. - mig
[2001-04-23 10:21:00] - http://www.dailyradar.com/news/game_news_7641.html
[2001-04-23 10:11:00] - http://www.ugo.com/channels/features/napsteralts/
[2001-04-23 10:01:00] - quote from random perosn after a school shooting: "You know, this would have never happend if we didn't take *god* out of our schools." - mig
[2001-04-23 10:00:00] - and we must crush all the infidels. kill them all. ~a
[2001-04-23 09:59:00] - there are exceptions of course, but i've generally found that to be the case. - mig
[2001-04-23 09:59:00] - the average christian does think atheism is heathen-istic though, dave ~a
[2001-04-23 09:57:00] - dave is alive! ~a
[2001-04-23 09:51:00] - we do not! -dave
[2001-04-23 09:37:00] - that's what christians try to feed into everyone's brains, hence the association. - mig
[2001-04-23 09:36:00] - it's because atheism is santanism in disguise. all religions that are not chrisitanity(or philosophies that reject chrisitianity) are just tools of the devil. - mig
[2001-04-23 09:09:00] - why do people associate atheism with anti-christianity. i think christianity much more anti-atheism than atheism is anti-christian. ~a
[2001-04-23 00:54:00] - http://www.well.com/user/abs/curriculum.html -jdb
[2001-04-23 00:44:00] - just for pretend
-jdb[2001-04-23 00:38:00] - i did guaranteed housing, so i can't really try to live with her. - aba
[2001-04-23 00:38:00] - i have a home on campus.
- aba[2001-04-23 00:27:00] - aba: call her up and tell her you're an atheist, but need a home. -jdb
[2001-04-23 00:20:00] - i wonder if the person who posted the ad tore off those two bits or if someone else did. - aba
[2001-04-23 00:17:00] - i think the fish are funny
~a[2001-04-23 00:11:00] - pierce had some good ideas about automatic picture posting. i'll look into it but don't expect it in the near future. ~a
[2001-04-23 00:10:00] - if anyone ever wants to post a picture, im me the url and i'll post it. ~a
[2001-04-23 00:09:00] - i know some devout christians have their preferences, but they're usually not that overt about it. - mig
[2001-04-23 00:08:00] - how odd. - mig
[2001-04-23 00:06:00] - ###/pics/temp/christian.jpg
[2001-04-23 00:06:00] - isn't this scarry? ~a
[2001-04-22 22:16:00] - oh okay. that's mooseful to know - aaron
[2001-04-22 22:14:00] - <br> simply specifies where to put a break in between words. You can't lead with it. I suppose <br> might work, but you'd need something on both sides. -logan
[2001-04-22 22:12:00] - That was me by the way, I use frontpage for my HTML - aaron
[2001-04-22 22:11:00] - What about <br>?
[2001-04-22 22:11:00] - i'll get to it soon
~a[2001-04-22 22:11:00] - munch munch (eating) ~a
[2001-04-22 22:11:00] - Also, if you want a vertical spacer, <p> </p> often works real well for me. -logan
[2001-04-22 22:09:00] - a: Have you considered putting the sidebar inside the message table cell, with an align="right" to have it sit nicely on the right side (and below it, messages can use the full width)? -logan
[2001-04-22 22:07:00] - I'm skeptical of accusations of racism, because 99% of the time they are baseless. -logan
[2001-04-22 22:05:00] - you are correct, i might be leaping to conclusions, and there is not enough information, but i'm typically skeptical of organizations that have done questionable things in the past. i guess that's just how i am. - mig
[2001-04-22 22:02:00] - I don't have enough information to agree or disagree with their means. I'd rather not leap to conclusions about motivation (unlike most people). -logan
[2001-04-22 21:55:00] - i disagree with their means. - mig
[2001-04-22 21:52:00] - a: Thanks. -logan
[2001-04-22 21:52:00] - mig: The article read more to me like they were cracking down on violence around night clubs. What's wrong with that? It's where the violence is. -logan
[2001-04-22 21:49:00] - the police have no right to be on your back simply because of what type of music you are affliated with, or your lifestyle, simply because you "might" commit crimes in the future. - mig
[2001-04-22 21:48:00] - done ~a
[2001-04-22 21:47:00] - a: You should put a link to me at http://www.loganh.com
-logan[2001-04-22 21:46:00] - a: Yes. -logan
[2001-04-22 21:45:00] - And I'm interested in hearing a justification for your claims of unconstitutionality.
-logan[2001-04-22 21:44:00] - is substantiated a word?
~a[2001-04-22 21:44:00] - But there is no evidence that the motivation is racist. Nor was there any evidence presented that the operations focus only on hip hop artists/clubs. The article wasn't very heavy on detail, just hyperbole. -logan
[2001-04-22 21:43:00] - Neutral viewpoint? It started off making outrageous, unsubstantiated claims. To give it credit, it quoted an authority a few times. But it also quoted a bunch of people whose credibility is unestablished. -logan
[2001-04-22 21:38:00] - they are obviously going to say they're going to monitor the "entire music industry", since if they said "we are going to monitor everyone in the hip-hop community" that definitely would raise a few eyebrows. - mig
[2001-04-22 21:33:00] - my assessment, given the past incidents involving the nypd, is that this initiative is racist in origin, and even if it wasn't, extremely unconstitutional. - mig
[2001-04-22 21:27:00] - as for mtv, the article didn't seem "muckraking" at all. it seemed to have a neutral viewpoint. - mgi
[2001-04-22 21:21:00] - to put it one way, you won't be seeing me to new york at any point in my life. - mig
[2001-04-22 21:18:00] - If the music industry is correlated to violence, and hip hop is one of the largest segments of the industry, what does it have to do with race? -logan
[2001-04-22 21:17:00] - And it was MTV. I don't know who is harder to believe, MTV or the NYPD. -logan
[2001-04-22 21:16:00] - Well, there was no evidence in that heavily biased, poorly-written article that anything racist is occurring. -logan
[2001-04-22 21:14:00] - that and given it's also the nypd. - mig
[2001-04-22 21:14:00] - and they may say, "the entire music industry" but i suspect that's just to make it seems less focused on hip-hop people. - mig
[2001-04-22 21:13:00] - the quotes i used were to denote sarcasm. - mig
[2001-04-22 21:12:00] - People are so quick to point out (nonexistant) racism that real racism gets perpetuated. -logan
[2001-04-22 21:11:00] - mig: I think you've fallen for MTV's muckraking. -logan
[2001-04-22 21:10:00] - Where did the quote "predisposed to be involved in crime" come from? Yay for hypersensitivity. I did find this quote: "It's not just hip-hop; it's the entire music industry." -logan
[2001-04-22 21:09:00] - logan: i have had valign set to top before and didn't like it ~a
[2001-04-22 21:07:00] - well, the nypd's little initiative is targetting the hip-hop community(which are close to almost all black) on the grounds that they are "predisposed to be involved in crime". - mig
[2001-04-22 21:05:00] - a: How about a valign="top" on the left table cell here? -logan
[2001-04-22 20:57:00] - Where is the racism? -logan
[2001-04-22 20:50:00] - http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1443027/20010420/jay_z.jhtml?headlines=true some real racism going down this time. - mig
[2001-04-22 19:49:00] - call it what you want. ~a
[2001-04-22 19:49:00] - i just didn't understand why he left is all. ~a
[2001-04-22 19:45:00] - Seems kinda silly. -logan
[2001-04-22 19:44:00] - eh. whatever. paul just doesn't want to post and i guess that is ok with me. ~a
[2001-04-22 19:43:00] - It was that big of a deal? -logan
[2001-04-22 19:38:00] - i meant to leave a=2 open but i seriously considered closing a=0 ~a
[2001-04-22 19:37:00] - I'm just glad you didn't block the a=2 mode. -logan
[2001-04-22 19:36:00] - Josh already had his own form, from before the incident. I went into my browser cache on ender to get them for my own form (not that "msg" would have been very hard to guess
). -logan[2001-04-22 19:34:00] - i guess it was logan ~a
[2001-04-22 19:33:00] - and without the form variables i figured no one would have memorized them. which one of you figured it out? ~a
[2001-04-22 19:28:00] - Muahaha! -logan
[2001-04-22 19:28:00] - .
[2001-04-22 19:27:00] - boy was i wrong ~a
[2001-04-22 19:27:00] - i figured no one would try ~a
[2001-04-22 19:27:00] - thanks, guys. i wish i had disabled posting
~a[2001-04-22 19:27:00] - Now I wish I hadn't posted that big long message.
-logan[2001-04-22 19:26:00] - Oooh, we can post normally now! -logan
[2001-04-22 19:25:00] - jdb: Try my page now... -logan
[2001-04-22 19:15:00] - jdb: I was actually thinking of that... I've seen it before in other forms (like, forms for sending messages to GSM phones). -logan
[2001-04-22 19:09:00] - logan: checkout the form at the very bottom of http://mirror.subotnik.net/jkorpela/forms/textarea.html ; that's what sort of javascript I was thinking of. -jdb
[2001-04-22 19:09:00] - Hmm... you could have it automatically append your signature.
-logan[2001-04-22 19:08:00] - Yeah, textarea is a good idea... look at all the mistakes I make.
-logan[2001-04-22 19:07:00] - logan: i actually created my page before the board was down -- for that very reason
-jdb[2001-04-22 19:06:00] - logan: i like textarea better, as i can see everything i'm typing -- no scrolling back and forth. -jdb
[2001-04-22 19:04:00] - Hmm, perhaps <textarea> doesn't do maxlength. -logan
[2001-04-22 19:04:00] - logan: that doesn't work on text boxes... does it? -jdb
[2001-04-22 18:55:00] - jdb: You don't need javascript! maxlength=250... just look at Adrian's own html (if you have it cached).
-logan[2001-04-22 17:58:00] - yay!
--> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1288000/1288080.stm -jdb[2001-04-22 17:05:00] - logan: hehe, here's mine --> http://www.acm.vt.edu/~jbaugher/aporter.html ; I should put some sort of javascript length checker on submit form though. -jdb
[2001-04-22 17:00:00] - Later, I'm off to go skate. -logan
[2001-04-22 16:53:00] - jdb: Not completely convenient, because you have to keep scrolling back or reloading to see the messages again.
-logan[2001-04-22 16:52:00] - jdb: Check out http://www.loganh.com/~logan/post.php -logan
[2001-04-22 16:37:00] - I think I'll skate to the mall and back today. Though I'm probably too out of shape to make it. -logan
[2001-04-22 16:36:00] - jdb: Regarding victimization -- it's not that I advocate squashing the recognition of victimization. I simply advocate not participating in a system that victimizes you, because in a way that is self-victimization. -logan
[2001-04-22 16:33:00] - jdb: I would've been no good in class... I never speak up. I've been quiet in Ethical Theory all semester; it took a long discussion of Nozick v. Rawls (anarchocapitalism vs. egalitarianism) for me to speak up a few times.
-logan[2001-04-22 16:32:00] - jdb: Well, the thing is, my view of meritocracy is not very sophisticated, because I haven't given it as much thought as, say, capitalism. But I do think my views require a meritocracy of some sort. I think I'd be happiest in a meritocracy. -logan
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[2001-04-22 16:25:00] - logan: I wish you had been in my class last semester.
we discussed meritocracy (in the school environment) extensively. in short, you and i have different views of meritocracy, hehe -- or rather, at what level where meritocracy comes into play. -j[2001-04-22 16:23:00] - If no one believes in classes, then no one is exercising any sort of class prejudice, or setting up any sort of unfair infrastructure, are they? I think I'd like to see more of a meritocracy. -logan
[2001-04-22 16:22:00] - logan: ah, see, i believe in class and race and all of that-- so the classic marxist view of the class struggle works out just fine for me. -jdb
[2001-04-22 16:21:00] - logan: ah, if there are no "victims," then there isn't a problem, right? -jdb
[2001-04-22 16:02:00] - The way I see it, the issue of class is an issue that should not exist at all. Your solutions all deal with modifying the relationship between classes. That's attacking the symptoms and not the cause. -logan
[2001-04-22 15:58:00] - So why is normal usage of this board contingent upon paul's return? why did he leave? -logan
[2001-04-22 15:55:00] - That's why I believe according special rights and priveleges based on race is just another form of racism (call it "positive racism," if you will), and will only lead to perpetuating the idea that race matters. -logan
[2001-04-22 15:54:00] - Yes. So many people believe and participate in the fantasy that it becomes a problem. A lot of society is a "fantasy", in that regard. -logan
[2001-04-22 15:53:00] - I believe you can only truly be a victim of classes if you believe class means anything at all. And if there are no victims, who is to benefit? -logan
[2001-04-22 15:52:00] - so is racism a fantasy social construct also? -jdb
[2001-04-22 15:51:00] - I view "classism" in the same way that I view racism, and I view the efforts to modify "class differences" in the same way as I view ill-conceived efforts to modify racial prejudices. -logan
[2001-04-22 15:50:00] - interesting... not believing in class-based societal structure... -jdb
[2001-04-22 15:49:00] - jdb: I don't really believe in classes, anyway. I think they are artificial constructs in the minds of those that want to see them. -logan
[2001-04-22 15:48:00] - jdb: A restaurant could also charge you $100 for a hamburger, but they'd be fools if they did. -logan
[2001-04-22 15:47:00] - jdb: They could -- but would they have enough customers if they did that? -logan
[2001-04-22 15:46:00] - logan: you don't think there would be even more class difference in forest usage? if someone has a monopoly on land, they could charge $100/car for a day's visit, etc. -jdb
[2001-04-22 15:42:00] - jdb: It simply doesn't follow that, just because it's privately owned (and even operated for profit) that it will have an exhorbitant cost. -logan
[2001-04-22 15:41:00] - jdb: If there is a price to be paid in maintaining that forest, then you are paying it, even when the government owns it. You're paying the price now, in all the evil things that government does to you. -logan
[2001-04-22 15:39:00] - logan: i actually like ted turner, but i love being able to go out and visit a national forest, etc., without having to pay a huge price. -jdb
[2001-04-22 15:38:00] - logan: hehe, i think you and i must be the only ones with alternative posting schemes.
-jdb[2001-04-22 13:20:00] - Hmm, I should post a few hundred times to turn this message board blue. -logan
[2001-04-22 13:19:00] - I like private ownership because I do not believe that wealth is something that you can pin down. I'm unconcerned by accumulation of wealth because I don't think of it as something that really lends itself to accumulation. -logan
[2001-04-22 13:18:00] - I don't know, Ted Turner seems like a nice enough guy.
-logan[2001-04-22 03:46:00] - logan: my beef with private ownership is even more class war in land ownership. lots of ted turners.
-jdb[2001-04-21 16:14:00] - Ok, this isn't as much fun without anyone here to tell me that I'm wrong. If anyone wants me I'll be on IRC.
-logan[2001-04-21 16:12:00] - jdb: I read Neal Stephenson's Zodiac last night... it's a slightly different style than his other material -- kinda more to the point. The subject matter is interesting too (I bet particularly to you). I think you'd like it. -logan
[2001-04-21 16:11:00] - jdb: The tragedy of the commons; if no one owns a piece of land, no one has any incentive to maintain it. Hence the argument that private ownership is probably much better for the environment than letting the government hog all the land. -logan
[2001-04-21 16:07:00] - However, at times unions don't constrain themselves to capitalist actions (just like corporations sometimes don't either). -logan
[2001-04-21 16:07:00] - As for labor unions -- I see nothing inherently wrong with them. The concept of works organizing and setting their own terms is fully in-line with my caplitalist beliefs. -logan
[2001-04-21 16:06:00] - Haha! I can monopolize the message board now! -logan
[2001-04-21 16:02:00] - Testing my hax0r abilities. -logan
[2001-04-21 13:53:00] - mig: what are your opinions of labor unions? i'm pretty mixed. i see the necessity, but they can sometimes be a pain in the ass. -jdb
[2001-04-21 13:43:00] - logan: so how did that sierra club article show that government should not own land? -jdb
[2001-04-21 13:05:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,43213,00.html -jdb
[2001-04-21 11:40:00] - http://www.presstube.com/james/born/art+drugs+prince.htm -jdb
[2001-04-21 11:25:00] - http://www.blasphemymovie.com/ -jdb
[2001-04-21 10:27:00] - http://www.sweetsecretions.com/ -jdb
[2001-04-21 10:24:00] - http://formenmedia.ign.com/media/news/image/hardcore/karatechimp.mpeg -jdb
[2001-04-21 04:41:00] - I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that CT editorial was rather pathetic and ironic.
-logan[2001-04-21 03:44:00] - jbd: i did
- mig[2001-04-21 02:08:00] - (not that the article is about vt's program...) -jdb
[2001-04-21 02:08:00] - (not that the article is about vt's program...) -jdb
[2001-04-21 01:57:00] - http://www.oreilly.com/news/bioinformatics_0401.html <-- vt's bioinformatics program sounds neat. -jdb
[2001-04-21 01:55:00] - aaron: http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/fred20f.html -jdb
[2001-04-21 01:44:00] - mig: you should write a response!
-jdb[2001-04-21 01:22:00] - http://www.collegiatetimes.com/ctonline/article.php3?388023 this is one of the most blantant displays of ignorance i have ever seen. -mig
[2001-04-21 01:20:00] - do you think labor unions are bad, logan? - mig
[2001-04-20 18:36:00] - *sigh* i always forget to sign. -kris
[2001-04-20 18:35:00] - jdb: when he gets too descriptive i skim (in cryptonomicon)
[2001-04-20 18:14:00] - Heh, the LP can be such whores when it comes to celebrities: http://www.lp.org/lpnews/0105/parker.html -logan
[2001-04-20 17:54:00] - Check out this great argument: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/columnists/orl-oped-reese15041501.column and http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=658&FS=Capitalism+and+the+Columnist -logan
[2001-04-20 15:48:00] - So are we watching freddie got fingered today? and if so, which showing? - aaron
[2001-04-20 15:19:00] - Just goes to show that government should not be involved in research and should not own land. -logan
[2001-04-20 14:40:00] - http://www.sierraclub.org/politics/bush/budget.asp -jdb
[2001-04-20 14:24:00] - aaron: intentional communities -- describes some of the things i have been posting lately, about cohousing, communes, etc. -jdb
[2001-04-20 14:23:00] - aba: i did find it interesting... but his overly-descriptive style (which creates a wonderfully painted atmosphere) drags out too long for me (short attention span). -jdb
[2001-04-20 14:06:00] - lsdls
[2001-04-20 11:25:00] - really?? i thought cryptonomicon was really interesting. it had some really cool ideas in it. - aba
[2001-04-20 10:56:00] - Sorry that was me, forgot to sign - aaron
[2001-04-20 10:56:00] - What was that ic link you posted, jdb? It seemed really boring
[2001-04-20 09:53:00] - i'm a loser. i couldn't make it all the way through cryptonomicon (before getting bored). -jdb
[2001-04-20 09:27:00] - mapinfo
[2001-04-20 06:48:00] - and yes, neal stephenson does rule. i think i liked snow crash the best. though cryptonomicon was good too. i didn't really like the diamond age much at all. - aba
[2001-04-20 06:46:00] - it's a photo of a television. the guy on the television is tom green. i think he's actually talking about his testicular cancer at this point. on mtv. heh. - aba
[2001-04-20 02:59:00] - Why is there a distorted picture of a guy in a suit pointing at the ceiling? -logan
[2001-04-20 02:49:00] - Neal Stephenson rules. -logan
[2001-04-20 01:29:00] - paul, i love you too.
- aba[2001-04-20 01:28:00] - paul, we love you. ~a
[2001-04-20 01:00:00] - tom green is sooo funny
~a[2001-04-19 23:55:00] - http://www.ic.org/ -jdb
[2001-04-19 23:52:00] - i am forever tainted with imagery of tom green making tongue-love to a mouse. -jdb
[2001-04-19 23:49:00] - ###/pics/temp/tom.jpg
[2001-04-19 23:49:00] - tom green movie comes out tomorrow! ~a
[2001-04-19 23:41:00] - hehehehehe
-jdb[2001-04-19 23:34:00] -
[2001-04-19 23:34:00] - silly?! ~a
[2001-04-19 23:07:00] - don't invest too many emotions into this silly board, paul.
-jdb[2001-04-19 23:03:00] - http://freeweb.pdq.net/headstrong/
[2001-04-19 23:03:00] - You know what then? Nevermind, I've had enough of the same old crap also. I'll just go wallow in my ignorance. Goodbye -paul
[2001-04-19 23:02:00] - how many times do i have to say the same crap? -jdb
[2001-04-19 23:01:00] - Humor me -paul
[2001-04-19 23:01:00] - is it possible for me to have an opinion outside of the context of being a u.s. citizen? sure, in fairly-land... -jdb
[2001-04-19 23:01:00] - Well, I'm a pretty ignorant person -paul
[2001-04-19 23:00:00] - I didn't ask if you like China or not. Hell, I love Chinese food and find Chinese culture interesting. That doesn't mean I don't consider them to be a very real threat to the United States -paul
[2001-04-19 22:59:00] - i think black or white answers are pretty ignorant. -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:59:00] - My question was: Do you consider China to be an enemy of the United States. I don't see how you can consider that to be a confusin question -paul
[2001-04-19 22:58:00] - no, i, joshua d. baugher like china, i loved my visit there --- they are one of our oldest civilizations, and they make yummy food! -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:58:00] - yes, i, the united states of america hate china, but hell, i figure i can make a few bucks trading with them -- and when i finally suceed in converting them to a wonderful, godly, capitalistic society, i figure they might buy a few things. -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:58:00] - paul, it is impossible for me to ignore context when answering a question. so these are straight answers. -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:53:00] - Fine fine, I'll stop trying to get a straight answer out of you -paul
[2001-04-19 22:48:00] - paul, i am not a country, so it really doesn't matter whether i view them as an enemy -- it matters what my country views them as. personally, no contries whatsoever are my enemy. -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:40:00] - I asked you whether you thought China was our enemy -paul
[2001-04-19 22:34:00] - paul: i'm being completely serious. we (the u.s.) hate communism. -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:32:00] - I was talking to you, Josh -paul
[2001-04-19 22:31:00] - if that is the case, then i'm suprised we don't as actively pursue other countries that violate "human rights" -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:30:00] - you think that we care more about the human rights issues then communism? -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:28:00] - well yeah, i guess you're right. we don't really hate china that much for being communist though. - mig
[2001-04-19 22:27:00] - hehe, i seem to know a lot of people that get hot whenever castro is mentioned, etc.
-jdb[2001-04-19 22:25:00] - well it's calmed down a lot in the last decade. - mig
[2001-04-19 22:24:00] - paul: who are you addressing?
[2001-04-19 22:24:00] - mig: hmmm, i think the "red scare" won't be over till there are no more communist countries. -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:17:00] - Are you being sarcrastic? -paul
[2001-04-19 22:15:00] - i think we're not friends because of the human rights violations stuff. - mig
[2001-04-19 22:14:00] - but i think we've gotten over the "red scare" when the ussr fell. - mig
[2001-04-19 22:13:00] - that is true. - mig
[2001-04-19 22:13:00] - well, sure, every communist country is the good-ol-u-s-of-a's enemy. -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:12:00] - So you see them as our enemies now? Or am I assuming too much? -paul
[2001-04-19 22:11:00] - befriend means they aren't our friends now, but i'd like to see them be our friends. -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:03:00] - I asked you whether you considered them our friends or enemies. I think everybody would agree that being friends with them is good. That's like saying "I want world peace" -paul
[2001-04-19 22:02:00] - what is confusing about my answer. "i'd like to see us befriend the chinese." -jdb
[2001-04-19 22:00:00] - I have to assume stuff when you answer my question with vague thoughts -paul
[2001-04-19 21:59:00] - Alright then, give me a straight answer! -paul
[2001-04-19 21:59:00] - don't assume so much! -jdb
[2001-04-19 21:54:00] - I'm sorry, I guess it's more like we should treat them as friends because it's not their fault their government disagrees with ours? -paul
[2001-04-19 21:51:00] - I know, but it's kind of implied by your statement -paul
[2001-04-19 21:46:00] - i didn't say that... -jdb
[2001-04-19 21:41:00] - I dunno, I just think it's kind of naive of some people to think that no country could mean us harm just because their population is made up of people "just like us" -paul
[2001-04-19 21:33:00] - true. -jdb
[2001-04-19 21:24:00] - Except for the "over a billion people" thing -paul
[2001-04-19 20:57:00] - That's nice in theory, but you could say that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were exactly the same -paul
[2001-04-19 20:56:00] - http://news.yahoo.com/h/eo/20010418/en/fonda_files_for_divorce_1.html -jdb
[2001-04-19 20:53:00] - i think of china as two things: a country of over a billion people, very similar to you and me -- and a few thousand others that run the place. i'd like to see us befriend the chinese. they're essential to our existence. -jdb
[2001-04-19 20:37:00] - Whoops, that was me -paul
[2001-04-19 20:37:00] - So do you consider China an enemy or a friend?
[2001-04-19 20:34:00] - something like that, but of course there has to be a certain balance... -jdb
[2001-04-19 20:30:00] - So we shouldn't trade with countries that are our enemies and we shouldn't perform surveillance on our allies? -paul
[2001-04-19 20:27:00] - yes, well... i think we have to pick one side or the other. either be trade friends and stop surveillance fights, or don't be their friend and spy on them all ya want. -jdb
[2001-04-19 20:25:00] - Were you in favor of stopping surveillance flights over China or not? -paul
[2001-04-19 20:21:00] - well, sure, i think we should have a strong defense -- but then again, we have more nuclear warheads than any other naiton... -jdb
[2001-04-19 20:10:00] - Americans for a strong defense? Do you agree with what they say Josh? -paul
[2001-04-19 19:55:00] - http://www.djiab.org/ <-- i'd consider setting up something like this. -jdb
[2001-04-19 19:54:00] - http://emptytreeseedy.sourceforge.net/ <-- neat -jdb
[2001-04-19 19:47:00] - yay, i have redhat 7.1 cds burned now. -jdb
[2001-04-19 19:44:00] - http://www.protectamericansnow.com/ <-- 24060 is at risk to at least 15 different types of missles (from china and russia). -jdb
[2001-04-19 19:43:00] - i wonder if there are prequels? i couldn't find a homepage for it. -jdb
[2001-04-19 19:37:00] - weird, worked just fine for me w/ IE 5.5sp1. -jdb
[2001-04-19 19:36:00] - Right clicking and saving doesn't work
-paul[2001-04-19 19:33:00] - or, hehe, right click and save that. -jdb
[2001-04-19 19:32:00] - wget http://banners.stilenet.com/site/fight3.swf -jdb
[2001-04-19 19:32:00] - wget eh? Sounds complicated -paul
[2001-04-19 19:30:00] - sure there is... wget the .swf!
-jdb[2001-04-19 18:57:00] - There were also some choice porn banners and links on his main page
-paul[2001-04-19 18:57:00] - Cool, video. I don't suppose there is a way to download it? -paul
[2001-04-19 18:42:00] - ignore the porn ad, this is cool! http://www.thestileproject.com/kungfu.html
[2001-04-19 18:33:00] - Sounds like it was a lot of fun -paul
[2001-04-19 18:26:00] - not much of a debate, just a lot of barking.
-jdb[2001-04-19 18:16:00] - Aw nuts, I missed the debate on reparations and affirmative action
-paul[2001-04-19 17:32:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,43080,00.html -jdb
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