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[2001-07-24 12:28:00] - Me cago en el coño de la madre de dios
[2001-07-24 12:12:00] - http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/07/23/genoa/index.html
[2001-07-24 11:40:00] - doesn't change the fact that adobe is the reason he's in jail in the first place. - mig
[2001-07-24 11:40:00] - this is just a pathetic pr ploy so that they don't look like they're responsible if he gets convicted. - mig
[2001-07-24 11:36:00] - dewey: adobe are dickholes because they're backing out of prosecuting doesn't do squat. dimitry is still in jail. - mig
[2001-07-24 10:46:00] - jdb: Webmail has been working fine for me and I have checked my email at least 10 times today
-paul[2001-07-24 10:38:00] - is webmail acting flakey for anyone else? seems to work good for me in spurts, then gets unbearably slow (sometimes times out). -jdb
[2001-07-24 10:13:00] - judge how expensive things are vs. how much people make too though - but that's still partly economy -dave
[2001-07-24 10:13:00] - aba: it's not the end all or be all, true. but the people are generally happy if the economy does well - because they can make money and buy the stuff they want - which in turn makes "standard of living" go up. i suppose you have to judge how..-dave
[2001-07-24 10:12:00] - aba: It's not, but according to your own article, the US has the best standard of living and has the best economy. -paul
[2001-07-24 10:12:00] - anyway, i have a pile of papers here calling my name. bye. - aba
[2001-07-24 10:11:00] - bleh. i dont understand your point of view because i dont think the health of the economy is the end all and be all of life. - aba
[2001-07-24 10:10:00] - dave: Exactly, too little caloric intake is bad but so is too much -paul
[2001-07-24 10:09:00] - aba: I'm pretty certain he was talking about the USSR and other Soviet style communist countries in Eastern Europe -paul
[2001-07-24 10:09:00] - paul: the us would win hands down if it was based on that, haha - we're a country full of obese people -dave
[2001-07-24 10:09:00] - it has to do with whether the population is starving - aba
[2001-07-24 10:09:00] - aba: They may be doing quite well in terms of this vague standard of living, but their economies are stagnant compared to the US -paul
[2001-07-24 10:08:00] - "their state-dominated systems have failed—failed in absolute terms as billions of people remained mired in grinding poverty" is what the original guy said. i was just pointing out that that was false. - aba
[2001-07-24 10:08:00] - "daily caloric intake of each country's population"? What does that have to do with Standard of living? -paul
[2001-07-24 10:08:00] - and it's also very hard for you to get promoted from your own job. hard to find internships as a college student too -dave
[2001-07-24 10:07:00] - when you look at overall quality of life, instead of failing, socialist countries are doing very well. that guy misrepresented them in his article. - aba
[2001-07-24 10:05:00] - paul: you should reread my original comment. it had nothing to do with the us at all. - aba
[2001-07-24 10:04:00] - aba: It says the United States is still the best place to live and the US is arguably less socialist then Europe -paul -paul
[2001-07-24 10:04:00] - there's very little room for improvement and it's very hard to fire someone - you have to pay lotsa money to get rid of people - talk about horrible for business efficiency -dave
[2001-07-24 10:02:00] - another comment they make when i talk to them is that you can get anything you want here. i'm not sure what you can't get there, but that's what they said (shrug) -dave
[2001-07-24 09:58:00] - taxes are like 60% if you make 30k a year -dave
[2001-07-24 09:57:00] - incidentally, we have a lotta french people here at work - schooling may be free and other perks like that - but taxes are huge, you make squat, and it's hard to find a job. -dave
[2001-07-24 09:47:00] - finland and sweden being those other countries not on the top ten list. my bad. - aba
[2001-07-24 09:46:00] - um, sorry, not on that list, but in the article. the others were highly ranked. - aba
[2001-07-24 09:45:00] - "while the United States may come out near the top in every category in our Index, it wins in only one (Economy). In other words, the United States does everything pretty well (relatively speaking). But other countries do particular things better."
[2001-07-24 09:44:00] - canada, France, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden are all on that list. - aba
[2001-07-24 09:40:00] - aba: so you're talking about france? what other countries? -dave
[2001-07-24 09:33:00] - (oh, and you have to scroll to the bottom of the article to get the true rankings of the countries) - aba
[2001-07-24 09:31:00] - many of the top countries in terms of quality of living standards are socialist or socialist leaning countries. - aba
[2001-07-24 09:31:00] - ugh. try: http://www.dailyreckoning.com/home.cfm?loc=/body_headline.cfm&qs=id=878 - aba
[2001-07-24 09:30:00] - sorry, i was doing something else. unfortunately international living doesnt let you see the current qol index, but i found a reference in another article (http://www.dailyreckoning.com/home.cfm?loc=/body_headline.cfm&qs=id=878) - aba
[2001-07-24 09:09:00] - aba: What socialist countries are kicking ass? -paul
[2001-07-24 09:00:00] - dave: I like "If you aren’t protesting, you aren’t cool." More
-paul[2001-07-24 08:58:00] - aba: france? -dave
[2001-07-24 08:57:00] - aba: really? i honestly didn't know there were many socialist countries out there? which ones are? -dave
[2001-07-24 08:55:00] - hehe, i like that last sentence: "Hey kids, want to help make the world a better place? Then grow up: Start a business or get a job. Want to help the poor? Hire them. “Corporate greed” has helped far more people than big puppets ever will." -dave
[2001-07-24 08:52:00] - uh, that guy has it all wrong. communist countries are doing unsuccessfully, but socialist countries are kicking ass. - aba
[2001-07-24 08:43:00] - http://www.cato.org/dailys/04-20-01.html Short article on why anti-globalization protesters havi it all wrong -paul
[2001-07-24 08:20:00] - adobe article, i meant to say - vinnie
[2001-07-24 08:20:00] - yeah, that adobe puts them in a good light - vinnie
[2001-07-24 08:18:00] - a: er.... I mean the point that many people try to make... -paul
[2001-07-24 08:17:00] - a: Political polls are suppose to be the opinion of the people. I think the point is that politicians shouldn't listen to political polls because the people don't know what's best for them -paul
[2001-07-24 08:16:00] - mig: I'm confused as to where that article makes Adobe out to be 'dickholes.' Seems everything is as it should be. - dewey
[2001-07-24 08:08:00] - i'm not decided on this issue, but it seems like the govt should be able to keep some secrets about its info-tech -dave
[2001-07-24 08:07:00] - up to this point, many govt officials, including bush, have denied their existence -dave
[2001-07-24 08:07:00] - there's a govt bill that is in the works that would make it mandatory for govt officials to answer direct questions about software / equipment like that -dave
[2001-07-24 08:06:00] - anyone know anything about carnivore or dcs1000? supposed high-power fbi programs used for tracking people / collecting information from the net -dave
[2001-07-24 07:19:00] - aren't the political polls the opinion of the people? or is that the point? ~a
[2001-07-23 20:15:00] - http://woozle.org/pipermail/seattle-sklyarov/2001-July/000136.html ugh, adobe are such dickholes. - mig
[2001-07-23 19:01:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,45346,00.html
[2001-07-23 17:09:00] - http://newsaskew.com/va5/trailer3.shtml theatrical trailer for jay and silent bob strike back
[2001-07-23 17:05:00] - this was after an interview with the pope if you were wondering -dave
[2001-07-23 17:04:00] - bush on the stem cell debate: "It's also an issue that has got serious moral implications. I, frankly, do not care what the political polls say. I do care about the opinions of people, particularly someone as profound as the Holy Father" -dave
[2001-07-23 16:23:00] - aaron: funny, I had visited not my desk a month ago and didn't find a single funny thing. i guess I wasn't looking in the right places because the stuff you've posted is great - vinnie
[2001-07-23 16:08:00] - by giving a third point of view, fair illustrated stossels weak points pretty well. im not saying that his basic theme was totally wrong, but i do think he should have been much more careful when creating the show. - aba
[2001-07-23 16:06:00] - http://www.fair.org/whats-fair.html plus, fairs missions statement very plainly says that they are trying to stop the media from being biased. this leads me to agree with them more than i would say the green party or such. - aba
[2001-07-23 16:04:00] - if stossel hadnt had a history of skewing statistics and misrepresenting people, i wouldnt think it was a big deal. - aba
[2001-07-23 16:03:00] - in my opinion (obviously slightly skewed), fair did a good job of pointing out where stossel was wrong. its one thing to fight the establishment and its another thing to fight the establishment well. - aba
[2001-07-23 15:38:00] - http://www.reason.com/9704/fe.stosselint.html
[2001-07-23 15:37:00] - Masturbation in my car? - aaron
[2001-07-23 15:35:00] - http://www.notmydesk.com/words.html - Here's some things people search for, to find the "Not My Desk" web site... - aaron
[2001-07-23 15:31:00] - http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,417%257E57574,00.html
[2001-07-23 15:30:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54461-2001Jun27.html
[2001-07-23 15:23:00] - fair is awesome
[2001-07-23 15:23:00] - http://www.fair.org/activism/stossel-tampering.html
[2001-07-23 14:45:00] - i find that quote very amusing - that we spent more then them all combined -dave
[2001-07-23 14:44:00] - article from which that quote is from: http://www.weeklystandard.com/magazine/mag_6_39_01/glassman_baliunas_feat_6_39_01.asp -dave
[2001-07-23 14:44:00] - looks like it
- vinnie[2001-07-23 14:43:00] - Bush said: "United States had spent $18 billion on climate research since 1990—"more than Japan and all 15 nations of the EU combined"—but that this wasn't enough" -dave
[2001-07-23 14:41:00] - vinnie: interesting, i guess that article i posted could be considered in direct oppositoin then -dave
[2001-07-23 14:40:00] - on bush, kyoto, and global warming: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/7/2/185108.shtml -dave
[2001-07-23 14:37:00] - that group thinks not signing will hurt our economy - vinnie
[2001-07-23 14:36:00] - an interesting counterpoint to the argument that signing will hurt the economy: "Industries that emit carbon 'won’t have access to the worldwide permit trading system' for emissions, noted Phil Clapp, head of the National Environmental Trust." - vin
[2001-07-23 14:36:00] - mig: i agree, i think clinton accepting all that support / money from china was pretty low -dave
[2001-07-23 14:34:00] - dave: of course everyone is bought out to some extent. but then there are the whores. - mig
[2001-07-23 14:31:00] - dave: i was wondering about the same thing. what tech was being developed to counteract the problem - vinnie
[2001-07-23 14:30:00] - and i also heard that the us has gotten colder in the past 100 years -dave
[2001-07-23 14:30:00] - and as soon as india and china have the right kind of infrastructure to bring their emissions down to us levels they will. not everyone is on the same level. those who can improve should improve. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:30:00] - ironically, since most of the world's reduced pollution tech comes from the us, slowing the us economy would discourage research in that area -dave
[2001-07-23 14:28:00] - yes, but that was naturally caused, right? we human beings are causing unnatural changes in the earths atmosphere without even knowing the full consequences. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:28:00] - another thought: India uses three times the energy and emits four times the carbon dioxide per unit of GDP than the U.S., and China use five times the energy and emits eight times the carbon dioxide.... -dave
[2001-07-23 14:27:00] - the bush administration wants to be reactive instead of proactive. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:27:00] - aba: wasn't the earth really really warm during teh jurassic period? much warmer than it is now methinks -dave
[2001-07-23 14:27:00] - or we could try to avoid the whole mess altogether. whatever. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:26:00] - aba: we just wouldn't have as much land. and that's more of problem when it comes to humans putting houses and such on coastline. so in a twisted way, global warming would return more to nature (wipe out human buildings on some coast) -dave
[2001-07-23 14:25:00] - dave: and that makes fucking with the environment ok? - aba
[2001-07-23 14:25:00] - aba: i agree that it is relatively important that we aren't signing it -dave
[2001-07-23 14:24:00] - vinnie: ahh, ok, thanks -dave
[2001-07-23 14:24:00] - aba: incidentally, the world would become a much greener place, and plants would thrive more if there was global warming -dave
[2001-07-23 14:23:00] - aba: he needs all the help he can get from the euro leaders? i agree it's nice to have good relations, but we need them for? -dave
[2001-07-23 14:23:00] - actually, it says they agreed to a compromise and will try to get usa to sign in the future - vinnie
[2001-07-23 14:22:00] - vinnie: it is an important factor, but i think most countries put their own economies at a higher precedence than international relationships -dave
[2001-07-23 14:22:00] - many of the european leaders are not too happy with bush right now because of his stance on so many different issues. he needs all the help he can get in gaining influence with them and this treaty was one way to accomplish that. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:22:00] - i think japan did agree in the end - vinnie
[2001-07-23 14:21:00] - i hardly think this is bending over backwards. considering the number of countries entering this treaty, its really a big deal that america is refusing to sign it too. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:20:00] - i think i agree with dave overall, but that's a point I hadn't though of, aba. the trust between countries is an important factor - vinnie
[2001-07-23 14:20:00] - aba: and why do we need to bend over backwards to create a bond with all the other countries of the world? btw, last i heard, japan wasn't going to sign it either -dave
[2001-07-23 14:19:00] - aba: no they aren''t, but they are an integral part of a politician's life -dave
[2001-07-23 14:19:00] - dave: thats not it at all. but i do feel that he needs to do something about this problem and this treaty is a way to accomplish that as well as creating a bond between america and other countries in the world. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:19:00] - aba: and politicans hardly ever think the way you are saying they should. i would even venture to say almost never -dave
[2001-07-23 14:18:00] - aba: who says the treaty is the right thing? -dave
[2001-07-23 14:18:00] - polls and surveys arent everything. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:18:00] - aba: you seem to assume that this specific treaty is the doorway to a utopian world and a better way of life -dave
[2001-07-23 14:18:00] - if he wanted to do the right thing, he would know that the public would come around to his way later on. *shrug* - aba
[2001-07-23 14:17:00] - aba: i find your statement mildly insulting -dave
[2001-07-23 14:16:00] - aba: this treaty is the cure-all for global warming huh? -dave
[2001-07-23 14:16:00] - people need to strive to better the world.
why does everyone only seem to think of themselves and their immediate surroundings? - aba[2001-07-23 14:15:00] - aba: yeah, but if the american people dont' support him, he's not going to be there very long is he? -dave
[2001-07-23 14:15:00] - and you seem to think that that is acceptable? - aba
[2001-07-23 14:15:00] - dave, bush has taken the stance that he will never sign the treaty. this is what bothers me a great deal. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:15:00] - aba: because even if something is better in the long run, you also have to think about the short run. in truth, i think almost all politicians tend to think of the short run more -dave
[2001-07-23 14:14:00] - aba: you really think that the majority of the american public would give environmental issues higher precedence over the economy? i highly doubt it -dave
[2001-07-23 14:13:00] - look, im sure people said the same kinds of things when they banned ddt and all the other chemicals that were poisoning our environment. i dont understand why people are against such things when they are clearly the best in the long run. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:12:00] - i mean, in one sense, what's a year or two of not going along with the treaty going to do in the long run? not much, but it might be a great help for our economy -dave
[2001-07-23 14:11:00] - btw, clinton wasn't elected by a majority either -dave
[2001-07-23 14:11:00] - aba: arguably, it's better not to kick the economy when it's down. after awhile (hopefully not too long) when the economy recovers, he could feel free to sign the treaty -dave
[2001-07-23 14:10:00] - "economic ruin"?? thats going a little far. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:09:00] - sorry, phrased too strongly - rephrase as "if they were facing economic trouble" -dave
[2001-07-23 14:09:00] - considering that the majority of voters didnt elect him, i find him a poor reflection of the american people.
plus i dont understand how he thinks that the economy will be hurt by this in the long run. - aba[2001-07-23 14:09:00] - i think you'd be surprised about how many people would ditch environmental issues if they were facing economic ruin -dave
[2001-07-23 14:07:00] - aba: frankly, i think he is reflecting the american people. more are worried about the economy right now then global warming -dave
[2001-07-23 14:06:00] - his priorities are veryveryvery different from mine. he feels that he needs to do what is better for the country right now rather than what will be better for the world in the long run. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:05:00] - aba: the only case where i would accept that statement was if you agreed that gore and just about every other politician is completely bought out as well -dave
[2001-07-23 14:05:00] - yes. he is not supporting something because he thinks the economy and big business is more important than the environment and the earths future. - aba
[2001-07-23 14:04:00] - aba: i think that's an unfair statement about bush -dave
[2001-07-23 14:03:00] - after all, he's doing it because he thinks supporting the treaty would be detrimental to the us economy -dave
[2001-07-23 14:03:00] - aba: if you thought that not supporting the treaty was right, you might think he had "backbone" for not giving in -dave
[2001-07-23 14:02:00] - heh. yeah, too bad bush is completely bought out.
- aba[2001-07-23 14:02:00] - unsigned: here ya go: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37501-2001Jul23.html -dave
[2001-07-23 13:58:00] - aba: everyone is "bought out" by their supporters to a certain extent -dave
[2001-07-23 13:58:00] - maybe "disney is buying out fox family -dave"? it wasnt me that asked though. - aba
[2001-07-23 13:58:00] - dave: "disney is buying out fox family "
[2001-07-23 13:57:00] - aba: Dave, Ricky and Andrew are all online. You can discuss it with them -paul
[2001-07-23 13:57:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36450-2001Jul23.html bleh. the bush administration sucks a lot when it comes to foreign relations. i mean i cant believe they let themselves get booed by the europeans. - aba
[2001-07-23 13:56:00] - unsigned: url for what? -dave
[2001-07-23 13:56:00] - hehe, one of my coworkers said that some lady rented a car, and when she was driving it, and stopped, a boa constrictor fell into her lap -dave
[2001-07-23 13:53:00] - paul: aw. discussing is fun anyway. and im not the one who called you a wimp. - aba
[2001-07-23 13:52:00] - wimp
[2001-07-23 13:50:00] - aba: Nope, I am not going to delude myself into thinking that I am going to change anybody's mind about anything -paul
[2001-07-23 13:48:00] - paul: youre not going to contend that he hasnt been bought out by big business?? - aba
[2001-07-23 13:45:00] - aba: Ok. Sorry, for the misunderstanding. -paul
[2001-07-23 13:39:00] - paul: the point of the cartoon was not to mock the possibility of nuclear war, but to point out that bush is ridiculing other dangers just because he has been bought out by big business. - aba
[2001-07-23 13:37:00] - aaron: yes, i read all of the other job descriptions too. it was so hard to keep from laughing out loud (my desk is in the open). - aba
[2001-07-23 13:33:00] - great, looks like we'll need that fucking passport to do anything now, right? - mig
[2001-07-23 13:27:00] - dave: url?
[2001-07-23 13:26:00] - http://www.microsoft.com/switzerland/de/officexp/library/images/30sekdt01.mpeg
[2001-07-23 13:26:00] - about the "threat" of nuclear attack. if someone really wanted to nuke us, they would have done it already. - mig
[2001-07-23 13:25:00] - aparna: So you read the part about him being a cameraman? Alex and I cracked up when we read that part... - aaron
[2001-07-23 12:53:00] - paul: you sure do pick the articles. that napster one was certainly unique -dave
[2001-07-23 12:45:00] - Disney is buying out Fox Family -dave
[2001-07-23 12:39:00] - mig: Very well then, I admit defeat. We should certainly protect ourselves from possibly raising the temperature of the earth one degree in the next century but ignore the threat of a nuclear attack -paul
[2001-07-23 12:37:00] - i think the left wins this round paul. - mig
[2001-07-23 12:34:00] - http://huberspace.com/cartoons/cartoon.php3?toon=blackout.gif&year=2001 Rebuttle to Tom Tomorrow's cartoon -paul
[2001-07-23 12:25:00] - http://www.notmydesk.com/guide/deskless_jobs1.html very funny link from aaron's profile. ugh. i almost burst out laughing at work. - aba
[2001-07-23 12:23:00] - http://www.teoma.com/ google clone search engine. - mig
[2001-07-23 12:18:00] - i wish i had work to do.
- aba[2001-07-23 12:13:00] - i'm here, just don't have anything interesting to post. - mig
[2001-07-23 12:09:00] - maybe they found another message board. ~a
[2001-07-23 12:09:00] - i'm here. ~a
[2001-07-23 11:48:00] - where is everyone today??? - aba
[2001-07-23 11:14:00] - http://www.salon.com/tech/col/rose/2001/07/20/napster_diaspora/index1.html this article has a lot of links to file sharing applications - aba
[2001-07-23 11:13:00] - http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2792260,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1tp02 - mig
[2001-07-23 11:09:00] - http://www.webbyawards.com/main/webby_awards/nominees.html webby awards winners - aba
[2001-07-23 10:40:00] - http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2001/07/23/tomo/index.html go tom tomorrow! - aba
[2001-07-23 10:08:00] - if anyone cares, here is the status of reconfiguration of the cgi scripts on the server: http://aporter.dhs.org/cgi-bin/cgi.cgi ~a
[2001-07-23 09:39:00] - http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/07/napster_strike.html Judge OKs Nuclear Strike on Napster -paul
[2001-07-23 09:31:00] - http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/20545.html
[2001-07-22 16:51:00] - (i can mail it if you want) ~a
[2001-07-22 16:51:00] - lots of changes on my computer this weekend. let me know if i broke something of yours. ssh access is possible for anyone who cares ( http://aporter.dhs.org/ssh.html ) but you need to get a password over the phone or something. ~a
[2001-07-21 01:54:00] - *mean
[2001-07-21 01:54:00] - i did not meen for the message board to be down all of friday. i fixed the problem in 4 minutes on thursday night and accidentally left the message board down. cry. ~a
[2001-07-19 23:35:00] - "ypi? did you miss, with your right hand? i type "ypi" sometimes when i try to type "you" but my right hand is in the wrong place - aaron" hehe
[2001-07-19 23:35:00] - ypi
[2001-07-19 22:48:00] - *pushed
[2001-07-19 22:48:00] - yay. message board new break date is pused back from 25000 messages to 65536 messages as of now. ~a
[2001-07-19 22:29:00] - i dunno.
no one *I* know. - mig[2001-07-19 22:27:00] - lets see. who do i know who uses "kids" "mexicans" and "indian" a lot? ~a
[2001-07-19 20:22:00] - http://www.elynews.com/2nvely/inn_front/photo.jpg
[2001-07-19 19:14:00] - I'd better not get grammar nazi'd either. Any of you kids seen final fantasy?
[2001-07-19 19:02:00] - I just have a question to the mexicans: Who the fuck do you think you are to question the indian nationalists?
[2001-07-19 19:00:00] - I see
[2001-07-19 18:58:00] - dave: i have no idea. i'm not very well versed in german law other than what i read on slashdot. - mig
[2001-07-19 18:57:00] - but to support andrew, i also see most "copyright" tools as just a hinderence to legitimate use. - mig
[2001-07-19 18:54:00] - xpovos: so, do you think web browsers are terrible? after all, they're just a document viewer? - mig
[2001-07-19 18:53:00] - i just have to ask a question to the indian nationalists: who the fuck do you think you are to make those kinds of demands? - mig
[2001-07-19 18:48:00] - http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6604515.html hope no one here is running on microsoft's iis web server. - mig
[2001-07-19 17:52:00] - http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2001/07/19/bush_cat/index.html Indian Nationalists demand removal of reference to Bush's cat from the White House web-site. -paul
[2001-07-19 17:51:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17938-2001Jul18.html Washington Post article/interview with Patricia Ireland which may or may not appeal to Aaron. -paul
[2001-07-19 16:26:00] - there are always ways of editing copyrighted material on the computer using third party tools. ~a
[2001-07-19 16:26:00] - there are ways of editing copyrighted pdf files using third party tools. ~a
[2001-07-19 16:17:00] - japan would be on the us side, they hate the chinese, hehe -dave
[2001-07-19 16:16:00] - hmmm, germany has to weigh in on this somewhere, lol -dave
[2001-07-19 16:15:00] - i can see it, ww3, taiwan declares independance, russia sides with china and the us sides with taiwan. -dave
[2001-07-19 16:05:00] - Anyway, I'm getting used to people not agreeing with me. I've gotta run anyway. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-19 16:03:00] - If people modify my resume it is no longer my resume. So it no longer bothers me. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-19 16:02:00] - how would you like it if someone modified your resume and then sent it off to the world? PDF resumes are excellent tools. - dewey
[2001-07-19 16:01:00] - worky work work. bye bye. - aba
[2001-07-19 16:00:00] - you dont believe in intellectual property? - aba
[2001-07-19 15:58:00] - I don't see those "copyright" tools as an advantage, I see them as a hindrance to legal use. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-19 15:57:00] - sure there should. if i want to create a copyrighted document that people can view but cant really edit, then pdf is totally the way to go. - aba
[2001-07-19 15:56:00] - im an idealist when it comes to this, but i believe that this global arms race is definitely not the way to go. - aba
[2001-07-19 15:56:00] - aba: There should be no difference between the two. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-19 15:56:00] - we do all kinds of nasty stuff to counteract the russians and chinese, so why do people do think they are evil when they do the same exact things we do??? - aba
[2001-07-19 15:55:00] - xpovos: I would use pdf if I was publishing something. If I was still in the editing process, I would use Word because of the coloboration tools it has. I agree with Aparna about the copyright features of PDF being an advantage. - dewey
[2001-07-19 15:54:00] - they do an awesome job of that, but they pale in comparison to doc files or rtf files when it comes to being able to edit stuff. *shrug* - aba
[2001-07-19 15:54:00] - i think you are confusing a document editor with a document viewer, andrew. pdf was designed to be a universal format for viewing documents. - aba
[2001-07-19 15:53:00] - "the treaty, which has a duration of 10 years, did commit Russia and China to unite wherever possible to work against "hegemonism," a code word for the United States" -dave
[2001-07-19 15:52:00] - and they already had a contract with russia for 70 air attack fighters for 1.8 billion -dave
[2001-07-19 15:51:00] - dang, china is buying 38 ground attack fighters from russia for 2 billion -dave
[2001-07-19 15:46:00] - mig: and if they are supposed to be paid, what billing rate do they get? -dave
[2001-07-19 15:46:00] - mig: and how much would the lawyer get? or are they just supposed to be crusading justice lawyers? -dave
[2001-07-19 15:43:00] - ... if I want to edit and save my changes to a document, I should be able to do that too. I disaprove of their settings which disable editing, saving, printing, or any of a hundred feature basic and inhereint to documents. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-19 15:41:00] - Should've figured, no one ever agrees with me on anything. Pdfs are bad, in my opinion, because of the features it offers, and sometimes forces on viewers. If I want to view a document in windings, I should able to... -- Xpovos
[2001-07-19 15:39:00] - That whole german killustrator law suit is hilarious! - aaron
[2001-07-19 15:37:00] - what's so terrible about .pdf format anyway, andrew? - mig
[2001-07-19 15:36:00] - the good thing about pdfs is that someone can publish an article with very little chance of someone else editting it and rereleasing it. documents are the exact opposite. plus pdfs dont have stupid macro viruses, etc etc as extra baggage. - aba
[2001-07-19 15:36:00] - i don't really like the .doc format. i would like .pdf more if i knew more on creating them. - mig
[2001-07-19 15:35:00] - dave: i would assume they would have to give at least any damages won to the company that was "damaged". - mig
[2001-07-19 15:33:00] - uh, the taliban are not in india. they are islamic fundamentalists in afghanistan. india is a hindu nation anyway. - aba
[2001-07-19 15:15:00] - And yeah, I like how the PDF looks, I don't like not being able to edit them without adobe's editor program, but I guess that's not really any worse than how microsoft word is... - aaron
[2001-07-19 15:14:00] - aba: Sorry, I remembered reading something about someone banning internet. I thought it was the taliban, and I thought it was in india - aaron
[2001-07-19 15:03:00] - I never said word was good, I just said pdf was worse. The free bit is the only thing worthwhile in there, image layouts are better done in non-text documents to begin with. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-19 15:02:00] - and yeah, it looks the same on every screen. Word will reformat your document so it looks good on your printer, wheras PDF just scales it down directly instead of repagnating. - dewey
[2001-07-19 15:00:00] - Word can't do image layouts very well. And pdf lets you fill out forms in the program and send the results off to a mail server. And PDF reader is free, whereas you have to pay for Word - dewey
[2001-07-19 14:42:00] - xpovos: eh, pdf's aren't all that bad. -dave
[2001-07-19 14:42:00] - aba: uh, ok, hoooooray for india, lol -dave
[2001-07-19 14:39:00] - i agree with dewey. pdf is great. with pdf things can actually look the same on every screen. -jdb
[2001-07-19 14:32:00] - dewey: I must seriously disagree, pdf is a terrible format IMHO. I mean even Microsoft Word's .doc format is better. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-19 14:16:00] - dave: exactly. i was saying that india doesnt have harsh internet laws (as opposed to those other countries). - aba
[2001-07-19 13:43:00] - pdf is a good format. I want to see it live. - dewey
[2001-07-19 12:32:00] - Go Dmitryi. Death to the Pdf. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-19 12:15:00] - mig: and who would get the money? -dave
[2001-07-19 11:48:00] - by the company that has it's trademark "infringed" that is. - mig
[2001-07-19 11:48:00] - http://slashdot.org/articles/01/07/04/013249.shtml apparently in german law, lawyers can sue companies for trademark infringement without being hired by those companies. - mig
[2001-07-19 11:44:00] - and that's why i'll never get xp. - mig
[2001-07-19 11:40:00] - mig: it's less annoying, but yeah, they still know what hardware you put in your computer -dave
[2001-07-19 11:40:00] - aba: i don't understand? was india in that list? -dave
[2001-07-19 11:39:00] - mig: yeah, but you don't have to call them up to get a new activation code if you change some of your hardware now -dave
[2001-07-19 11:34:00] - ... and they're still dictating what you can and cannot do with your own fucking computer! - mig
[2001-07-19 11:25:00] - i don't see how this "softer" anti-piracy is any better. they still want to know all the hardware that's running on your computer. - mig
[2001-07-19 11:06:00] - "countries like the united arab emirates, saudi arabia, myanmar, china and north korea" have harsh internet laws. - aba
[2001-07-19 11:05:00] - india doesnt have harsh internet laws. - aba
[2001-07-19 10:54:00] - I can just imagine all these people having nightmares now, about coming to america and being handcuffed because of an mp3 encoder they wrote in college, or something... - aaron
[2001-07-19 10:50:00] - Ha ha. I wonder if other countries look at the US's harsh copyright laws in the same way we look at, say, the harsh internet laws in India and such places - aaron
[2001-07-19 10:37:00] - more on the story: http://www.planetebook.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=165 -dave
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