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[2001-08-02 09:04:00] - suxx0rz = suckers
[2001-08-02 08:59:00] - i've never understood this weird symbol talk. how does it work? what does this mean? “suXX0rz” -dave
[2001-08-02 08:46:00] - http://www.ugo.com/channels/music/default.asp?SectionID=37&ArticleId=6023 here's ugo's take on it. - mig
[2001-08-02 08:45:00] - oh, the mariah carey article is really funny. - mig
[2001-08-02 08:36:00] - i went to her website, but i couldn't find the two messages she was supposed to have left - vinnie
[2001-08-02 08:31:00] - dave: if I recall correctly she and I were born on the same day (though not the same year...) -- Xpovos
[2001-08-02 08:25:00] - paul: oh ok, i didn't know that. and i went to mariahcarey.com and i guess she's not too bad
-dave[2001-08-02 08:24:00] - the account of a renowned asheron's call character "animal" is changing hands for the second time. but this time....it's for $10,000.....who on earth would pay that much?... -dave
[2001-08-02 08:23:00] - dave: You didn't know there were fuel-efficiency requirements for cars? I find that to be surprising -paul
[2001-08-02 08:21:00] - dave: Thats the reason I brought it up. That quote I sent you was from an article talking about that -paul
[2001-08-02 08:11:00] - paul: coincidence? i think not
-dave[2001-08-02 08:11:00] - paul: after what you told me yesterday, i thought this headline was interesting. "Mariah Carey Being Treated For Emotional Breakdown " -dave
[2001-08-02 08:09:00] - hmm, maybe i should just post the article instead of posting all these snippets: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16582-2001Aug1.html -dave
[2001-08-02 08:08:00] - "The House rejected 269 to 160 a proposal by Boehlert and Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) that would have required the combined passenger and light truck fleet to achieve an average of 26 mpg by 2005 and 27.5 mpg by 2007" -dave
[2001-08-02 08:07:00] - people are pushing bush to make the req for suv's higher. - it'd be nice to have more efficient suv's, but after a point, they're just bigger cars and are going to consume more fuel, right? -dave
[2001-08-02 08:06:00] - i didn't know there was a required efficiency lvl for cars: "Whereas passenger cars must get an average of 27.5 miles per gallon, SUVs, minivans and light trucks must meet a requirement of only 20.7 mpg." -dave
[2001-08-02 08:03:00] - aba: that's about the drilling in alaska -dave
[2001-08-02 08:03:00] - aba: this should make you a little happier: "to help win backing for the drilling plan, the chamber limited the amount of land available for exploration to 2,000 acres from Bush's proposed 1.5 million acres." -dave
[2001-08-02 08:00:00] - "In the interviews, Bush received credit from both supporters and critics for picking capable associates -- with Vice President Cheney drawing the most praise. Cheney has a 60 percent favorable rating, 3 points higher than (mccain)" -dave
[2001-08-02 07:59:00] - the article also says people really like bush as a person, but a good number of people disagree with his agenda or his political priorities -dave
[2001-08-02 07:59:00] - the lewinsky thing didn't happen till after august '93, right? -dave
[2001-08-02 07:58:00] - "The latest survey shows Bush is faring much better so far than his predecessor. A Post-ABC poll in August 1993 found President Bill Clinton's negative job approval rating outweighing his positive score, 51 percent to 45 percent." -dave
[2001-08-02 07:57:00] - "Bush has a 63 percent personal favorability rating in the poll and a 59 percent job approval score" -dave
[2001-08-02 07:57:00] - washington post article on bush's approval: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19424-2001Aug1.html -dave
[2001-08-02 01:50:00] - http://www.theonion.com/onion3726/video_game_character.html more funny stuff. - mig
[2001-08-02 01:04:00] - http://www.seanbaby.com/news/cow.htm my god this is funny shit. - mig
[2001-08-02 00:03:00] - "My man Rico, a Puerto Rican rapper from the group Prophets of Rage explained it best. He noted that by suddenly change the meaning of the N word we are implying that racism and racial problems no longer exist."
[2001-08-01 23:32:00] - the double meaning of the word "nigger"(depending on who says it) is just ingrained into our society pretty deeply thanks to hip-hop. - mig
[2001-08-01 23:31:00] - anyway, i guess to the actual point. i don't know really what to think about it. the author has a good point that this is *not* a good thing, but there really isn't very much that can be done about it. - mig
[2001-08-01 23:27:00] - i mean, i don't get why this is being made out to be such a big deal. so, jennifer lopez *might* be a racist. who the fuck really cares? - mig
[2001-08-01 23:23:00] - i guess this is the culture thing i've never really "gotten". black rap artists call themselves "niggers" all the time, but then they get really, really, angry when a non-black person says it. - mig
[2001-08-01 23:10:00] - mig: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11268 what do you think of this? -jdb
[2001-08-01 22:47:00] - hehehe. "Yes, there is a need to protect school computers. No, this bill doesn't do that." ~a
[2001-08-01 22:35:00] - http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,45752,00.html don't we have better things to do?? like maybe punish real criminals. - mig
[2001-08-01 22:30:00] - http://aporter.dhs.org/cox.html ~a
[2001-08-01 20:16:00] - http://www.suntimes.com/output/eb-feature/cst-edt-ebert01.html
[2001-08-01 16:20:00] - That bush thing was very funny
Who posted it? - aaron[2001-08-01 16:17:00] - http://www.notmydesk.com/tinytemps.html Ah, ha ha ha.... If you haven't seen this "tiny temps" section of "notmydesk" it's worth your time... Lots of funny stuff... - aaron
[2001-08-01 16:15:00] - http://www.theonion.com/onion3726/bush_finds_error.html
[2001-08-01 15:46:00] - it's technical feasibility, I think the English system, both a natinal health plan, and private health care for those who want and can afford it, works better. Just a thought. -- Xpovos
[2001-08-01 15:45:00] - aba: On your comments on socialized medicine and privitized retirment funds. I can almost go along with a mandatory privite retirement fund, so long as there is a choice, as for the national health care, it's an ok idea, but I'm unconvinced of ...
[2001-08-01 15:24:00] - aba: also true. but pawning it wouldn't get a lot of money, and I was more worried that it had been crushed in the stampede of bodies. All in all, I still got lucky. -- Xpovos
[2001-08-01 15:23:00] - you can pawn stuff like that i guess. either that or take it apart and play with the insides.
- aba[2001-08-01 15:17:00] - a: i got my password, so you can take down my name now - vinnie
[2001-08-01 15:15:00] - a: That's true, I was very lucky, but no one has any incentive to keep a cell phone like that for more than a month, we would have cancelled the plan and it would have been essentially a useless chunck of plastic. -- Xpovos
[2001-08-01 15:13:00] - my password isn't working.... - mig
[2001-08-01 15:11:00] - andrew, you are lucky someone was nice enough to give it to the security guard. and you are lucky the security guard was nice enough not to keep it. ~a
[2001-08-01 15:10:00] - miguel, you can ssh to aporter.dhs.org or mickeyj.dhs.org . . . it's all the same. just remember, if you are using linux's default ssh client (openssh) to use -lmiguel ~a
[2001-08-01 14:39:00] - mig: then all the people who now clog up the NOVA roads would clog up the montana roads, only they have less of them so it'd be even worse. -- Xpovos
[2001-08-01 14:37:00] - http://www.cato.org//pubs/pas/pa-162.html Very long Cato article about government funded mass transit. Most of the interesting stuff is in the first 12 paragraphs -paul
[2001-08-01 14:28:00] - we should put the capital somewhere inside montana. - mig
[2001-08-01 14:28:00] - Oh, right, DC! Now I remember. I bet that's also why all the illegally imported DDR machines are nowhere in Northern Virginia - aaron
[2001-08-01 14:26:00] - aaron: can't do that, too much government work being done in D.C. get the gov out of D.C. and the bad traffic around here will shrivel away real fast. -- Xpovos
[2001-08-01 14:25:00] - Maybe if northern virginia was more like southern virginia (i.e sucky) it wouldn't have all these traffic problems - aaron
[2001-08-01 14:22:00] - a: what's the address of your ssh server? - mig
[2001-08-01 14:17:00] - "We are going to have a very aggressive approach . . . to reducing the traffic congestion in Northern Virginia, both by getting cars off the road and by building new roads," Earley said.
[2001-08-01 14:17:00] - why would you build new roads if you are trying to focus on getting cars off the road? wouldnt you spend the money on bettering public transportation instead? - aba
[2001-08-01 14:12:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16424-2001Aug1.html Earley plans to borrow money to fix northern virginia's transportation problems -paul
[2001-08-01 14:10:00] - a: yeah, a security guard at the door had it, someone must have handed it to him. I demonstrated it was mine (another guard called the number I gave and it rang) so they handed it over. That happened about 10 minutes after you guys left. -- Xpovos
[2001-08-01 14:08:00] - aaron: It's less then 50%, that's all that matters... -paul
[2001-08-01 14:05:00] - Sheesh, 48.8 percent of virginians said that oral sex between two men should be illegal? I guess virginia is still a rather conservative state... - aaron
[2001-08-01 14:05:00] - vinnie, no, not really; just out of everybody with a page on my server, you are the only one who has not gotten your password. not like anyone is using their accounts or cgi anyways
~a[2001-08-01 14:03:00] - universal health coverage! yuck. ~a
[2001-08-01 14:02:00] - vinnie: If I recall correctly, the only scenes in which you can see the cover of the book is when they are protecting something that everyone wanted to see -paul
[2001-08-01 13:51:00] - http://www.indegayforum.org/articles/miller39.html
[2001-08-01 13:47:00] - i ask you, how could anyone have been paying attention to what book she was reading during that scene?
- vinnie[2001-08-01 13:47:00] - ha ha, people magazine notes that halle berry was reading stephen hawking's "brief history of time" during her sunbathing scene in swordfish - vinnie
[2001-08-01 13:47:00] - Yeah, ditto, at least not until the fall, I think - aaron
[2001-08-01 13:46:00] - a: do i need the password or whatever? i'm not gonna be doing anything with cgi on your server - vinnie
[2001-08-01 13:43:00] - aba: Nope. I just wanted to figure out what you thought (can't believe you agree with Bush about Social Security). You are entitled to your own opinion. -paul
[2001-08-01 13:42:00] - paul: i was just joking. sheesh.
i figured you would at least try to prove to me that i am wrong. - aba[2001-08-01 13:36:00] - Well if it's only a problem in taxachusetts, then I think it's silly to reduce taxes on a national level - aaron
[2001-08-01 13:35:00] - hmm.... it seems that this movement is misdirected though. it should be the federal income tax that should be opposed, not the state income tax. - mig
[2001-08-01 13:33:00] - Tee hee. Taxachusetts. - aaron
[2001-08-01 13:31:00] - aba: I'm shocked to discover that you think I would kill somebody just because I disagree with them. I'm a harmless little man, really. -paul
[2001-08-01 13:28:00] - paul: pretty much.
are you going to kill me now? - aba[2001-08-01 13:27:00] - http://www.boston.com/dailynews/212/region/Proposed_ballot_question_would:.shtml Article about the movement to abolish the income tax in Mass. -paul
[2001-08-01 13:24:00] - aba: So you think we should reform medicare by replacing it with universal health coverage and you think social security can be reformed by partial privatization? -paul
[2001-08-01 13:21:00] - aba: email ~a
[2001-08-01 13:20:00] - paul: i like canada.
- aba[2001-08-01 13:20:00] - paul: youre going to kill me for saying this, but i think medical coverage should be handled by the government. as for social security, the idea of being able to direct your investments is appealing. - aba
[2001-08-01 13:14:00] - aba: What kind of reform do you suggest for stuff like social security and medicare? -paul
[2001-08-01 13:13:00] - aba: How do you know if she has a history of protecting business instead of consumers? Didn't that article say she voted with the majority 90% of the time? -paul
[2001-08-01 13:12:00] - paul: i wont deny that there are problems with social security and medicare, but i think fundamentally they have the right ideas. there just needs to be a little bit of reform. - aba
[2001-08-01 13:12:00] - http://www.reason.com/sullum/073101.html Interesting article talking about the popularity of the v-chip and how much it is being used -paul
[2001-08-01 13:11:00] - paul: i didnt say i didnt agree with her views. i just said that if she has a history of protecting businesses instead of consumers then maybe she isnt right for the job. - aba
[2001-08-01 13:09:00] - aba: What money that the government collects isn't being used wisely? Are there other governments that use their money more wisely? -paul
[2001-08-01 13:07:00] - aba: You don't agree with her views because she voted against it in the first place or because she changed her mind after reading the new report? -paul
[2001-08-01 12:49:00] - paul: i believe in governmental reform. i dont mind paying high taxes if the government provides me with equivalent services. here, the government takes your money and most of it isnt used wisely. - aba
[2001-08-01 12:33:00] - http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/7/31/164950.shtml is russia going back to communism on a grass roots level? - aba
[2001-08-01 12:27:00] - what's my zipper code? ~a
[2001-08-01 12:27:00] - it's nice that she encourages personal responsibility, but she takes it to an unacceptable extreme. - mig
[2001-08-01 12:26:00] - http://www.iht.com/articles/27784.html the bush administrations stubborn insistence that abstinence only programs are the only good counseling programs to fund also pisses me off greatly. - aba
[2001-08-01 12:23:00] - ugh. i mean democrats. i am too tired to be at work today. - aba
[2001-08-01 12:21:00] - i dunno. if she has a record of stuff like this, deomcrats may have a valid complaint. - aba
[2001-08-01 12:20:00] - "...new evidence showed some seats tipped over and caused near-drownings even when parents were on hand."
[2001-08-01 12:20:00] - "That same year, Gall also voted against banning baby bath seats, arguing that babies had drowned because parents left children unattended. Two months ago, when the commission reconsidered regulating the seats, Gall changed her views, saying new...."
[2001-08-01 12:13:00] - mig: I thought that was pretty amusing myself
Obviously they don't consider athiests to be people worthy of consideration -paul[2001-08-01 12:12:00] - "I don't find 'In God We Trust' excluding anyone except atheists," in other words, it's ok to exclude atheists. - mig
[2001-08-01 12:09:00] - "Failure to post the motto for our students to see ... is most unpatriotic," always diverting to irrelevant arguments to get their agenda across. - mig
[2001-08-01 12:08:00] - tax cuts are fine, because they get us closer to what we should be paying(umm... 0) - mig
[2001-08-01 12:01:00] - http://www.naplesnews.com/01/07/naples/d663595a.htm "In God We Trust" May be placed in public schools -paul
[2001-08-01 11:44:00] - aba: Ok, tax rebates are bad. What do you think about the tax cuts? (The lower taxes everyone has to pay next time) -paul
[2001-08-01 11:42:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13802-2001Jul31.html Bush nominee runs into trouble with Democrats -paul
[2001-08-01 11:41:00] - a: i think you are in 11 because i seem to recall you debating about voting for or against tom davis. - aba
[2001-08-01 11:40:00] - paul: its because bush is a crappy president.
seriously though, he never should have enacted the tax rebates because its going cause the govt serious debt and its not giving individuals enough money to spend and revitalize the economy. - aba[2001-08-01 11:27:00] - my zip code spans three districts
~a[2001-08-01 11:23:00] - paul: excuse me while i laugh from the irony. - mig
[2001-08-01 11:22:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16362-2001Aug1.html Government borrowing money -paul
[2001-08-01 11:17:00] - i'm absolutely amazed that patents can be bought after the person/company that owns them no longer exists. i thought it would just go into the pd after that happened. - mig
[2001-08-01 11:00:00] - vinnie: It could also be that the turnout was so low that the normally small amount of libertarian votes was just a large percentage... -paul
[2001-08-01 10:59:00] - vinnie: Yeah, I wonder what he spent that $25 on? Lunch for his staff? Pens and paper? Gas for his car? -paul
[2001-08-01 10:59:00] - i suppose 10% might - vinnie
[2001-08-01 10:59:00] - do people feel that comfortable voting for a random candidate just because they're not republican? - vinnie
[2001-08-01 10:57:00] - vinnie: Local libertarian candidate usually don't have enough money for signs and I think in the case of District 10 the libertarian got a lot of votes from Democrats since there was no Democrat challenger... -paul
[2001-08-01 10:57:00] - cheapskate
- vinnie[2001-08-01 10:56:00] - http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/dist_total/VA08.htm Hehehe, Ron Crickenberger (the libertarian candidate) spent $25 of his own money on his campaign
-paul[2001-08-01 10:54:00] - i never even saw any signs for him. i guess the libertarians vote in record numbers or something
- vinnie[2001-08-01 10:53:00] - Vinnie: I've never heard of him either. -paul
[2001-08-01 10:53:00] - there must be a better example than that. like beck, or someone - vinnie
[2001-08-01 10:52:00] - http://www.law.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=law/View&c=Article&cid=ZZZV4RVSSPC&live=true&cst=1&pc=3&pa=0&s=N yay for people who say "down with software patents." - mig
[2001-08-01 10:52:00] - ha ha ha, i laughed so hard at that limp bizkit statement when i read the article - vinnie
[2001-08-01 10:50:00] - frank wolf took 84% of the vote, unsurprisingly - vinnie
[2001-08-01 10:49:00] - have any of you heard of brian brown? he's the runner-up with 10% of the votes in my district, district 10, and he's a libertarian. i've never heard of him - vinnie
[2001-08-01 10:45:00] - i agree with the statement but they used a terrible example. - mig
[2001-08-01 10:44:00] - aba: wtf, indeed? Limp bizkit is the epitome of "selling out". - mig
[2001-08-01 10:42:00] - aba: "The zip code "22152" spans more than one congressional district" Great... I am either in district 8 or district 11 then. Thanks for your help though -paul
[2001-08-01 10:38:00] - i am in district 11. you can enter in your zip code ( http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/index.asp ) and check which district you are in. - aba
[2001-08-01 10:30:00] - a: I suspect that it's my dad. I seem to remember my mom telling me she voted (for or against, can't remember) Moran and I think my Dad remembers Davis only because he is somewhat well-known around here -paul
[2001-08-01 10:28:00] - one of them is smoking too much crack. ~a
[2001-08-01 10:26:00] - aba: Are you in district 11? Because my parents can't seem to agree which district I am in. My mom remembers Moran being on the ballot and my Dad remembers Davis being on the ballot... -paul
[2001-08-01 10:26:00] - fortune
[2001-08-01 10:23:00] - When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
[2001-08-01 10:22:00] - http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/dist_total/VA11.htm here are the numbers for va district 11. - aba
[2001-08-01 10:16:00] - aba: I think it's shocking that he got that much. Most people are mindless lemmings that always vote Democrat or Republican even if they don't know who the person is. -paul
[2001-08-01 10:13:00] - http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/2001/08/01/maher/index.html an in depth look at the political stance of bill maher. - aba
[2001-08-01 10:12:00] - its so shocking that he only got 77% of the vote when he spent almost 2500 times more money.
- aba[2001-08-01 10:01:00] - aba: What is so shocking about that? -paul
[2001-08-01 10:00:00] - vinnie: Now you know to trust my jusdgement when it comes to these articles
-paul[2001-08-01 09:55:00] - both theirs and mine - vinnie
[2001-08-01 09:55:00] - paul: you weren't kidding. the top 25 libertarian songs was a waste of time - vinnie
[2001-08-01 09:55:00] - http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/dist_total/NY31.htm wow. this is pretty shocking. - aba
[2001-08-01 09:42:00] - aparna, you have your double quotes and single quotes backwards. ~a
[2001-08-01 09:42:00] - http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2001/07/31/dates/index.html Study says girls victimized by dates -paul
[2001-08-01 09:39:00] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13834-2001Jul31.html this is the article that that quote is from. - aba
[2001-08-01 09:39:00] - '"There was once some nervousness about MTV, but I think bands like Limp Bizkit proved that you can be a rock band and be part of the MTV fabric and be cool and not sell out," Calderone said.' wtf?????? - aba
[2001-08-01 09:25:00] - and the chocolate cows. ~a
[2001-08-01 09:24:00] - the green, the purple, and even the red colors are artificially added. ~a
[2001-08-01 08:45:00] - http://www.lp.org/lpnews/0108/libertysongs.html A list of the top 25 songs for liberty. Those libertarians have too much time on their hands... -paul
[2001-08-01 08:26:00] - heh, that reminds me of that dumb ad with the strawberry cows - vinnie
[2001-08-01 08:25:00] - does green ketchup come from green tomatoes? if so, where does purple ketchup come from? - vinnie
[2001-08-01 08:06:00] - what's an iis server? -dave
[2001-08-01 08:05:00] - "The arrow’s path as it ripped through the Iceman’s body can be traced on the bones - starting at the tiny puncture of the entry wound in the skin of his left chest, said radiologist Paul Gostner." -dave
[2001-08-01 08:04:00] - how the iceman really died! - "The flint arrowhead, less than an inch long, was found in the Iceman’s left shoulder last week with a technique called computerized tomography, which uses X-rays to produce a multidimensional image. " -dave
[2001-08-01 08:00:00] - ata 133 coming to a vendor near you! -dave
[2001-08-01 07:53:00] - i passed out on the floor before taking a shower in the same clothes i wore to the concert and right after drinking a cup of coffee. man was i tired. ~a
[2001-08-01 07:29:00] - who is the main character in the du riechst so gut video? it isn't that main guy, i don't think. ~a
[2001-08-01 07:27:00] - aparna, you said the ringing always stops in the morning. well not for me
~a[2001-08-01 07:24:00] - i have seen the green ketchup. it is in every giant. ~a
[2001-08-01 07:24:00] - you found it?!? i saw someone holding up a cell durring the concert. when i heard you lost yours i figured it was gone forever. ~a
[2001-08-01 02:25:00] - mig: I thought Crossbreed was a fairly big dissapointment, they've got a long way to go. Godhead was ok, I liked their cover of Eleanor Rigby. -- Xpovos
[2001-08-01 02:02:00] - mig: the green ketchup is yummy.
comes in a slightly smaller bottle, squirts out a smaller bead of ketchup (more fun maybe?). -jdb[2001-08-01 01:56:00] - "The tremendous success of Heinz EZ Squirt Blastin' Green showe" ???? I have yet to see this "green ketchup" in any store so far. maybe i just haven't been looking hard enough... - mig
[2001-08-01 01:41:00] - xpovos: that's great! did you enjoy the other bands? - mig
[2001-08-01 01:36:00] - Well, Rammstein just rocked last night, it was a very cool concert. To aparna, miguel and adrian, thanks for your concern, I was, and am fine, and I found the cell phone too! -- Xpovos
[2001-08-01 00:36:00] - * * * MUTTER * * *
[2001-08-01 00:34:00] - * * * mutter * * *
[2001-07-31 22:07:00] - hacked by chinese
[2001-07-31 17:20:00] - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_363236.html
[2001-07-31 17:12:00] - dave: That's nothing, you should hear about some of the things going on in Africa that nobody seems to care about -paul
[2001-07-31 17:02:00] - miguel, were you able to get on? ~a
[2001-07-31 16:52:00] - http://news.excite.com/news/r/010731/11/odd-ketchup-dc ew. - aba
[2001-07-31 16:26:00] - i knew they were very hostile to one another, but i didn' t know this much violence was going on -dave
[2001-07-31 16:25:00] - man, what a mess. israelis and palestinians really going at it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11341-2001Jul31.html -dave
[2001-07-31 15:47:00] - . . . then the instillation of mod_perl and mod_php is suggested because it is faster and more efficent. ~a
[2001-07-31 15:47:00] - yes, that is true if you want to use cgi (which is required for a shared server). however, if the server is not shared (only one person or one trusted group of people). ~a
[2001-07-31 15:30:00] - dewey: thanks, that's what i wanted to know. i'll probably ask for your or adrian's help again when we get down to college and my comp is on a steady internet connection - vinnie
[2001-07-31 15:21:00] - vinnie: apache supports Perl, you just have to mime-map it. But along with that, you download the ActivePerl program which is what runs it for apache. I assume it is the same for php. - dewey
[2001-07-31 15:20:00] - a: well, yeah that's true. But Netscape asks if you trust this source and says aporter.dhs.org is verifying that aporter.dhs.org is who they say they are. Just seems funny. - dewey
[2001-07-31 14:58:00] - i'll have to check when I get home - vinnie
[2001-07-31 14:55:00] - and if so, I might be already be set up - vinnie
[2001-07-31 14:54:00] - does my version of apache have php and perl support? i didn't think it did, but it might - vinnie
[2001-07-31 14:43:00] - do you mean a self signed certificate? all data is still encrypted and can't be decrypted (reasonably) ~a
[2001-07-31 14:34:00] - dewey: hehehe -dave
[2001-07-31 14:31:00] - does a security id mean anything if you issue it to yourself? - dewey
[2001-07-31 14:24:00] - paul: it's up to you. not if you have other work to do -dave
[2001-07-31 14:20:00] - dave: Sorry about that, would you like me to log back on? -paul
[2001-07-31 14:17:00] - vinnie: php is really simple to install. - mig
[2001-07-31 14:08:00] - paul: you logged off just as i was about to message you. d'oh! -dave
[2001-07-31 14:04:00] - you don't need a compiler to install perl or php. all recent versions of apache are going to support perl and php. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:45:00] - aba: No, I'll be meeting you there, I guess. If we see each other at all that is. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-31 13:44:00] - vinnie: Now when you say you don't have it installed, do you mean you don't have a compiler or your apache doesn't support it? -paul
[2001-07-31 13:44:00] - andrew, will you be going with us or are you going to meet us there? - aba
[2001-07-31 13:43:00] - http://play.rbn.com/?dowjones/wsj/demand/wsj_vid/american_legacy_ammonia.rm
[2001-07-31 13:43:00] - http://play.rbn.com/?dowjones/wsj/demand/wsj_vid/american_legacy_dogwalker.rm
[2001-07-31 13:43:00] - vinnie: Well, I don't care. It's your own time that you wasted
-paul[2001-07-31 13:43:00] - paul: i don't have php or perl installed, which is what i meant - vinnie
[2001-07-31 13:42:00] - a: excellent, excellent. i was actually gonna ask you when we got back - vinnie
[2001-07-31 13:42:00] - paul: ha! I read the whole article - vinnie
[2001-07-31 13:36:00] - vinnie, i can show you how to install perl & php on your computer when we get to school. both of them are freely available for win32. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:34:00] - vinnie: What do you mean switch it over to a non-cgi machine? Your machine can't handle cgi? -paul
[2001-07-31 13:32:00] - *drool* cgi works... i might not use it though, because perl and php aren't installed on my machine yet and it'd be annoying to switch my page over to a non-cgi machine when we go back - vinnie
[2001-07-31 13:31:00] - http://frontpagemag.com/columnists/locke/2001/locke06-29-01.htm Somewhat interesting article on dead-beat dads. Don't read it all, just skim through it -paul
[2001-07-31 13:31:00] - As for Rammstein, I couldn't get anyone else to come, Katie's parents threw a fit (German Heavy metal = evil) and so it went, on down the line. I'll be there though. -- Xpovos
[2001-07-31 13:30:00] - doh!
[2001-07-31 13:30:00] - 5 : 30 ~a
[2001-07-31 13:29:00] - 5:30. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:29:00] - and you took at least three semesters of classes in the csl; and you took that crappy freebsd class. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:28:00] - a: aparna's at 5 or aparna's at 5:30, don't rememeber which it was? - mig
[2001-07-31 13:28:00] - if you know c++ (and don't tell me you don't) then perl and especially php are very easy languages to learn. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:27:00] - a: Ok, thanks. That's all I needed to know (or not know)
-paul[2001-07-31 13:26:00] - because, then, the answer would be yes. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:25:00] - dave: ah. the "one angry person". i hate it how it takes just one person to get mad for this kind of shit to happen. - mig
[2001-07-31 13:25:00] - you aren't ignorant, paul. i think the question should have been "a: so if i don't care to learn perl or php or practice the use of linux then i don't need this, right?" ~a
[2001-07-31 13:22:00] - a: So if I am ignorant and don't know anything about java or perl or php then I don't need this, right? -paul
[2001-07-31 13:22:00] - if you want. you can even sell ms stock to buy it perhaps. - mig
[2001-07-31 13:22:00] - when i said "upload access to your cgi directory is also denied" i was referring to insecure ftp upload access. i don't want hackers who know your ftp password (which isn't hard to get) access to upload and run programs on my computer
~a[2001-07-31 13:20:00] - miguel, do you think i should buy some? ~a
[2001-07-31 13:20:00] - upload access to your cgi directory is also denied because it is again unsafe. if you want to discuss why i think it is unsafe, i can. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:19:00] - http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/07/30/2348248 be happy adrian. - mig
[2001-07-31 13:19:00] - because regular telnet access is denied because it is unsafe. you would want to connect to my computer using a secure telnet if you are like vinnie, aaron, or miguel, and you specifically asked for cgi capabilities. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:18:00] - hehe nucken futz ~a
[2001-07-31 13:14:00] - a: Why would I want to connect to your computer using a secure telnet? -paul
[2001-07-31 13:13:00] - paul, your ssh password is for using ssh (ssh is a secure telnet). i gave lots of links to sites that distribute free ssh clients. you can also use http://aporter.dhs.org/ssh.html if you want to use the java ssh client i set up. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:11:00] - miguel, i just responded. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:11:00] - but yeah, it seems ridiculous that they couldnt' change a single character's name -dave
[2001-07-31 13:10:00] - mig: to give ms the benefit of the doubt, the name could have been reported to them by some other player who was offended, and not through searching their database -dave
[2001-07-31 13:10:00] - aaron: yeah, that was people speculating on the boards -dave
[2001-07-31 13:09:00] - then the rep. changed, and a year later, a different rep. wants to delete his char. -dave
[2001-07-31 13:09:00] - the part that i don't like is that when he originally named his char, he went through a lot of effort to get the consent of the microsoft rep. at the time -dave
[2001-07-31 13:08:00] - mig: By the way, we still don't know if changing a name in "ac" is actually a hassle or not, dave said that was just a rumor... - aaron
[2001-07-31 13:06:00] - a: What's an ssh password for? -paul
[2001-07-31 13:05:00] - i mean, adrian, did you get my email. - mig
[2001-07-31 13:05:00] - did you get my email(it could use a response if you're not too busy)? - mig
[2001-07-31 13:03:00] - a: I just hand crafted a new machine, it's running Corel Linux (CLOS). -- Xpovos
[2001-07-31 13:02:00] - everybody, you can get your ssh passwords here: https://aporter.dhs.org/cgi-bin/restricted/pass.cgi if you get an error, let me know and i can tell you what is wrong. ~a
[2001-07-31 13:02:00] - horray, thank you. - mig
[2001-07-31 13:01:00] - of course, ms doesn't have a very good record of being truthful, so it doesn't surprise me all that much. - mig
[2001-07-31 13:01:00] - miguel, http://aporter.dhs.org/cgi.html ~a
[2001-07-31 13:00:00] - Yeah I find it hard to believe that they really couldn't change a character's name, if they really wanted to - aaron
[2001-07-31 12:59:00] - if they want to do it to set an example, then say "We're going to be harsh because we want to set an example." - mig
[2001-07-31 12:59:00] - i certainly don't buy their bullshit that it's "too much of a hassel" - mig
[2001-07-31 12:58:00] - But yeah, I'm surprised MS won't just change his character's name. I suppose it's important to set an example though, so that other people don't try to register characters with objectionable names - aaron
[2001-07-31 12:56:00] - You could just as well say that he was rewarded for his cleverness, because he was allowed to play for a year with a vulgar name, whereas most characters with vulgar names would not be allowed to play Ashryn's Call at all - aaron
[2001-07-31 12:54:00] - actually he's being punished for ms's stupidity. letting him change his name would have been nicer. but then again, i'm not the one making the call. - mig
[2001-07-31 12:53:00] - miguel, https://aporter.dhs.org/cgi-bin/restricted/pass.cgi ~a
[2001-07-31 12:42:00] - On "AC" microsoft's decision is, no doubt, final... Obviously microsoft wasn't punishing cleverness, they were punishing the player's choice of an intentionally vulgar name - aaron
[2001-07-31 12:41:00] - It's obviously a very vulgar name if you can understand it. It's the equivalent of having a license plate of something like, "STIFF1I"... Only difference is that with license plates, you can go to court - aaron
[2001-07-31 11:34:00] - it's a shame cleverness gets punished now a days. - mig
[2001-07-31 11:32:00] - oh wait, i get it now. - mig
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