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[2004-07-30 13:33:50] - Vinnie: Except other than those two kinda strange choices for adjectives, there didn't seem to be any overt bias in that article. -paul

[2004-07-30 13:33:12] - Mel: Oh, ok. I thought you had watched a decent amount based on the previous conversation. You should, it's a good show. My favorite season is probably the 5th. -Paul

[2004-07-30 13:31:42] - paul: that's why I made that joke about bias. it just seemed like the writer had some weird grudge against him or something - vinnie

[2004-07-30 13:27:24] - Paul: Actually, I haven't watched too much Buffy.  I don't have a favorite season.  How about you?  -mel

[2004-07-30 13:12:05] - Mel: I assume you've watched a lot of Buffy? Which season is your favorite? -Paul

[2004-07-30 12:43:07] - Paul: I don't know, it is -definitely- unprofessional.  I am very amused.  -mel

[2004-07-30 12:42:05] - Mel: Yeah, it seems so unprofessional to refer to somebody as roly-poly. I couldn't tell if they were trying to be mean or nice. -Paul

[2004-07-30 12:40:47] - Paul:  haha!!  You're right about that article on Kangaroo Jack.  I like their choice of adjectives.  Who uses roly-poly in everyday life anymore?  -mel

[2004-07-30 11:26:54] - Well, it's good that our new superintendent is taking a firm stance on homosexual sex. -Paul

[2004-07-30 11:19:05] - Hehehe, funny typo on the tjhsstalumni.org main page.  They mistyped the title "No Easing Into Job for New Superintendent" in an amusing manner. http://www.tjhsstalumni.org/ - pierce

[2004-07-30 11:16:04] - Smells like sperm? -Paul

[2004-07-30 11:09:53] - ack, pride = prude

[2004-07-30 11:09:44] - travis: well, the person that says the quote is married. she doesn't want to appear like a pride either - vinnie

[2004-07-30 11:06:42] - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=816&e=1&u=/ap/20040728/ap_on_fe_st/dentist_semen i think this might just be updating an old story, about a dentist having patients swallow semen, it's kinda funny how the women say they recognize smell/taste of semen when normally that would be considered slutty or something - travis

[2004-07-30 11:00:31] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/3936597.stm manhunt being removed from some stores cause people thought of the stupid children - travis

[2004-07-29 19:47:02] - paul:  i think i'm free all friday.  after that i'm busy till kd weekend.  http://aporter.org/cal.html  ~a

[2004-07-29 17:33:02] - http://www.elliottwave.com/features/default.aspx?cat=mw What's the REAL Reason McDonald's Will Take Your Plastic? -Paul

[2004-07-29 17:05:09] - Vinnie: I can't tell if you're joking or not, but I don't detect any noticeable bias from the author which would indicate which side he/she believes. -Paul

[2004-07-29 17:00:01] - paul: I agree. now make the connection that you know which side the author believes - vinnie

[2004-07-29 16:39:51] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21957-2004Jul28.html Doesn't there seem to be at least one too many references to the actor's shape in this article? -Paul

[2004-07-29 14:35:45] - Vinnie: Sweet. Too bad that's all I remember about her from Buffy. -Paul

[2004-07-29 14:35:14] - paul: I think so - vinnie

[2004-07-29 14:34:50] - travis: I'll start saying "the guy who directed 'dude, where's my car?'s 'harold and kumar go to white castle" to balance it out - vinnie

[2004-07-29 14:12:08] - Vinnie: I knew it, was she the vampire that was one of the Master's big  henchmen until Angel killed her? -Paul

[2004-07-29 14:11:41] - Travis: Because that's how the movie is pitched. Actually, I was kinda doing that tongue-in-cheek since my original TV acronym didn't sound right. -Paul

[2004-07-29 14:09:24] - why does everyone put shyamalan's name in front of his movies?  most peole don't go around saying "john carpenter's halloween" or "wes craven's new nightmare" or any other movies that include the director's name - travis

[2004-07-29 14:05:39] - paul: yes, do that - vinnie

[2004-07-29 14:05:29] - oh btw, darla was from buffy. she was in several S1 episodes. I don't remember her at all though - vinnie

[2004-07-29 14:04:23] - Vinnie: Ok then. Hopefully you don't mind if I just go ahead and plan movie trips without you three in mind? -Paul

[2004-07-29 14:03:24] - paul: no, not necessarily. we'll possibly be here for the first part of the day. sorry I'm as sketchy on the details as you are - vinnie

[2004-07-29 14:00:03] - Vinnie: Hmmm, ok. But you're busy all day Saturday? -Paul

[2004-07-29 13:56:37] - paul: I won't know. but I'll probably be back by 3:00 (that goes for ~a and aaron too). I guess I'd rather see H+K - vinnie

[2004-07-29 13:35:57] - And he spells his name "Night", doesn't he? -Paul

[2004-07-29 13:35:34] - Errr. know when you are free Sunday. -Paul

[2004-07-29 13:35:26] - Vinnie: Ok, well, which movie would you rather see (H+K goto WC or MKS's TV) and when will you know? -Paul

[2004-07-29 13:30:22] - after 3:00? I'm really not sure - vinnie

[2004-07-29 13:29:18] - Vinnie: What time in the afternoon? Anytime? -Paul

[2004-07-29 13:28:36] - paul: friday, if that counts. probably sunday afternoon should be OK too - vinnie

[2004-07-29 13:22:24] - a: And are you free any day this weekend? -Paul

[2004-07-29 13:21:40] - Vinnie: You said you were busy sometime this weekend? -Paul

[2004-07-29 11:47:23] - Vinnie: I love it when that happens. -Paul

[2004-07-29 11:46:49] - Vinnie: Yeah, that's mostly what I thought they focused on. -Paul

[2004-07-29 11:46:32] - haha, answered your question without reading it - vinnie

[2004-07-29 11:46:28] - Vinnie: That would be cool if it's true. I've heard that from far too many people (Bill Maher, Will Wheaton, Larry Elder) who ended up not meaning it for me to get too hopefuly about it though. -Paul

[2004-07-29 11:46:01] - although, I should say the majority of their episodes take on easier, less politically-divided targets (ESP, feng shui, alien abductions, diets) - vinnie

[2004-07-29 11:44:50] - Vinnie: Ok, I thought they only tended to go against causes which were generally unpopular. It just doesn't strike me as particularly good for a show to mock the beliefs that most of it's viewers hold. -Paul

[2004-07-29 11:44:30] - I think I remember them basically owning up to being libertarians in one episode - vinnie

[2004-07-29 11:43:33] - paul: no, they rail against a number of traditionally liberal (global warming, anti-smoking, PETA, recycling) and conservative causes (christian science, anti-profanity, anti-drugs) - vinnie

[2004-07-29 11:27:07] - Vinnie: Wow, I'm surprised. For some reason I would've thought Penn and Teller would've come out on the anti-smoking side. -Paul

[2004-07-29 11:22:28] - the EPA document that article references - vinnie

[2004-07-29 11:06:08] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/espn25/story?page=moments/44 I'm sure I'm wrong about this, but I could've sworn that every other moment on this list had a poll when it was first introduced asking whether you would rate this moment higher, lower or just right. Except I never saw such a poll for this moment. -Paul

[2004-07-29 11:00:26] - Vinnie: Which document? The article I posted or a document that article references? -Paul

[2004-07-29 10:53:49] - paul: there's a whole episode of penn and teller's "bullshit!" about the damage that document has caused - vinnie

[2004-07-29 10:43:15] - http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/bsmith/2004/07/29 What kind of effect has the anti-smoking crusade had on the integrity of science? -Paul

[2004-07-29 09:55:36] - Vinnie: Ah, ok. I gotcha now. I dunno, I almost considered her bisexual anyway considering that she had a fairly deep relationship with Oz. I guess she never had sex with a man, though. -Paul

[2004-07-29 09:53:42] - whereas if they gave her another boyfriend later on it could be seen equally as a) she's actually bi or b) she's done with her lesbian phase. there's greater ambiguity with bisexuals - vinnie

[2004-07-29 09:53:14] - paul: it isn't different. I think I meant to say lesbian phase anyway. the fact that she never had any more boyfriends indicates that a) she's still in a lesbian phase (an unlikely scenario) or b) she's actually a lesbian (more likely scenario) - vinnie

[2004-07-29 09:44:26] - Mig: Maybe I don't know how the president acts, but that doesn't seem like it would explain much at all. -Paul

[2004-07-29 09:41:38] - Vinnie: How is going through a bi phase any different from going through a lesbian phase? -Paul

[2004-07-29 09:28:28] - http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml if this is true, it sure does explain a lot. - mig

[2004-07-29 09:28:02] - the other interesting thing they talked about on the thread, btw, was that willow was originally meant to be bi, but was made gay as not to make it seem like she was going through a bi phase. joss hasn't owned up to that one though - vinnie

[2004-07-29 09:25:31] - the TWoP forums where the whole sexuality thing was discussed is overwhelmingly female from what I can tell. and it's not an especially cliquish site - I don't see many regulars - vinnie

[2004-07-29 09:23:36] - Mig: Hehe, your company's CEO has been a Redskins Ticket. -Paul

[2004-07-29 09:21:36] - s/been//

[2004-07-29 09:21:16] - Attn:  My company's CEO has been Redskin tickets (no idea wether he's giving away or selling them).  I'm not interested in going but I probably get one (and it looks like, unfortunately one) to whoever wants it. - mig

[2004-07-29 08:50:59] - Pierce: I know, but it's the only thing I could find. There was also mention in the first post about the poster reading a couple of articles saying that 70% of Buffy fans were female. -Paul

[2004-07-29 01:16:40] - In other words, a particular forum for Buffy fans that happened to get several female readers would tend to get more female readers, since people would spread around the link to their friends, and people tend to have friends of the same gender. - pierce

[2004-07-29 01:13:48] - Paul: I'm not sure you can point to one forum's informal poll and derive any information about viewers as a whole.  You know how these things go, forums tend to have very cliquish regulars.  Case in point... - pierce

[2004-07-28 22:54:55] - Mel: http://forums.buffydownunder.com/archive/index.php/t-15201 -Paul

[2004-07-28 19:25:14] - ok time for me to leave soon.  see you guys tomorrow.  -mel

[2004-07-28 18:15:36] - travis: what kind of male/female breakdown do you think buffy watchers have?  -mel

[2004-07-28 18:15:06] - travis: yes, I think this is true.  The guy characters seem to be more real-life (somewhat geeky is ok) but the female characters are still very ideal (almost always beautiful, for example).  -mel

[2004-07-28 17:49:40] - it's sorta the same reason there's so much anime like tenchi and love hina, the male audience loves to see a bunch of pretty girls fight over a dorky guy - travis

[2004-07-28 17:46:52] - and i think pierce's theory is the correct one, that male viewers were supposed to identify with xander (kinda geeky, fumbles around a beautiful girl, etc) and females viewers with buffy (empowered, independent, etc) - travis

[2004-07-28 17:44:51] - there were a few instances of gay guys on buffy, but none of them were important or stuck around.  remember the jock that came out to xander (also an example of leaving the possibility xander was gay) and the member of the trio that was supposed to be in love with warren (he makes it obvious after the trio is broken up) - travis

[2004-07-28 17:30:22] - Paul: bye.    -mel

[2004-07-28 17:29:37] - Damn, the conversation starts to get interesting right as I have to leave for a meeting. Curse you all. -Paul

[2004-07-28 17:27:47] - Mel: I just thought that Buffy was already more slanted towards the female perspective than a lot of shows (just think how the female characters remained consistent while Angel, Riley, Oz etc came and went) and that changing the one heterosexual male element into another main character that is attracted to guys would be going a bit overboard. -Paul

[2004-07-28 17:26:13] - Pierce: I think who the viewers associated with was probably important.  Given the few male characters, it would be a bad idea to turn the male character that all the male viewers associated with into a gay character.  hey, are most of buff viewers male or female?  I would guess male.  -mel

[2004-07-28 17:24:49] - paul: Hmm, yeah, almost all female main characters and then a gay male character would have been pretty skewed.  -mel

[2004-07-28 17:24:08] - Pierce: ah yeah, I like the theory.  -mel

[2004-07-28 17:21:05] - Pierce: That could be true too. Barely related point: I wonder if more women associated with Willow or Buffy. -Paul

[2004-07-28 17:19:53] - And from my experience, it seems that those people are mostly male. - pierce

[2004-07-28 17:19:07] - Because it does seem like there are a lot of people who are ostensibly "okay" with homosexuality, yet are still insecure about or offended by perceived insinuations that they are gay. - pierce

[2004-07-28 17:18:08] - Whereas women seem to (generally) have a more mature opinion of the line between personality and sexual orientation, so the geeky girls who identified with Willow wouldn't be as offended. - pierce

[2004-07-28 17:17:44] - Just random speculation, but maybe they decided that too many of the geeky guys who were fans of the show identified with Xander, and would be vaguely insulted if it was implied that that personality type was "gay". - pierce

[2004-07-28 17:12:56] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/040728 Some good jokes in here for football fans. -Paul

[2004-07-28 17:02:34] - Heterosexual guy. -Paul

[2004-07-28 17:01:56] - So you would've had something like 6 characters who are all sharing stories about their relationships with men and one guy to counter balance it. -Paul

[2004-07-28 17:01:09] - Also, it probably would've schewed the dynamics a little bit too much towards the (for lack of a better way of putting it) female side. Without a heterosexual Xander, there wouldn't have been a character around to represent heterosexual males other than Spike. -Paul

[2004-07-28 16:59:08] - And who would have a relationship with Anya if Xander was gay? They would've needed to add probably two more male characters which would've made the cast probably a little too big. -Paul

[2004-07-28 16:57:27] - I likewise have no idea why I capitalized lesbianism there either. -Paul

[2004-07-28 16:56:48] - Mel: I've no idea. I think it probably worked better in terms of the characters introduced. Tara was introducing Willow to this whole new world of magic and so why not have her introduce the world of Lesbianism as well? -Paul

[2004-07-28 16:55:54] - Mel: I guess we read different stuff (what's the L Word?). I guess I recall hearing a little bit about female athletes being lesbians but it's nowhere near as prevalent as the gay male hair dresser stereotype (IMHO). -Paul

[2004-07-28 16:52:11] - Paul: so why do you think they decided not to make Xander gay?  Based on viewer feedback?  What was worth sacrificing the consistency of the show?  -mel

[2004-07-28 16:51:12] - Paul: It seems like I keep hearing about gay female athlete characters.  The L Word had a gay tennis pro.  Then the characters all went to some sort of lesbian getaway called the Dinah Shore weekend.  I think Dinah Shore was a golf pro.  Although I don't know if she was gay.  It's starting to feel stereotypical.  -mel

[2004-07-28 16:46:53] - I wonder if there would've been more male characters on the show if they decided to make Xander gay instead. There were some parts during seasons 5 and 6 where it seemed like Xander was the only consistent male presence on the show. -Paul

[2004-07-28 16:44:33] - Mel: I definitely agree. Oz left one episode and Willow is all depressed and seemingly by the next episode Tara was sleeping over. -Paul

[2004-07-28 16:42:47] - Mel: There's an assumption that female golf players are gay? I've never heard that before. -Paul

[2004-07-28 16:38:20] - Paul: It seems strange to me sometimes (like in Willow's case) that the writers don't plan ahead more.  I definitely think Willow's relationship with Oz made less sense after she became a lesbian.  -mel

[2004-07-28 16:37:17] - What's up with the assumption that female golf players are generally gay?  (Patty falls for a female golf player)  -mel

[2004-07-28 14:06:56] - Vinnie: Well, we are in agreement in thinking that making Xander gay would've been better. Making Willow a lesbian always seemed to undermine her relationship with Oz to me, especially considering how quickly she became a lesbian after breaking up with him. -Paul

[2004-07-28 13:59:55] - paul: yeah - vinnie

[2004-07-28 13:55:50] - Vinnie: Why would Nick have been more Taboo? Because Lesbians are more accepted? -Paul

[2004-07-28 13:52:55] - http://snpp.com/upcoming.shtml snpp seems to indicate it's patty. yawn - vinnie

[2004-07-28 13:18:09] - there isn't much to his thing with cordelia - vinnie

[2004-07-28 13:17:39] - the people on the thread said that you can really tell in the early seasons that nick acts a bit ambiguous. plus, he never has an oz-sized relationship with the opposite gender - vinnie

[2004-07-28 13:15:43] - one interesting thing I read on the TWoP forums about Buffy: Joss knew he wanted a gay character basically from the start and he apparently told as much to Alyson Hannigan and Nicholas Brendon. nearly all the fans think that Nick would have been the better (although more taboo) choice (and I agree) - vinnie

[2004-07-28 13:13:40] - yeah, I could see it being grandpa too. but he had a share of romances - vinnie

[2004-07-28 12:53:22] - I'm still sticking by groundskeeper Willy myself. -Paul

[2004-07-28 12:49:05] - Interesting... I'd completely forgotten about the old people.  I could actually see it being Grandpa. - pierce

[2004-07-28 12:41:48] - Grandpa Simpson? -Paul

[2004-07-28 12:40:49] - or maybe Kang or Kodos. - pierce

[2004-07-28 12:39:27] - Maybe Sideshow Bob... - pierce

[2004-07-28 12:39:14] - Paul: I was thinking about him, but it seems like he already has so much background development (his Jewish heritage, his daughter, the boozing and illiteracy and heart problems and rivalry with Sideshow Bob)... - pierce

[2004-07-28 12:36:12] - Krusty? -Paul

[2004-07-28 12:30:36] - ... (which negates Wiggum and Quimby, at least) - pierce

[2004-07-28 12:30:04] - Plus, I don't think it'll be someone who is already married... they wouldn't be able to get a gay marriage anyway without a divorce, making them ineligible for the primary plotline of the episode. - pierce

[2004-07-28 12:28:57] - Paul: I don't think it will be any of them, since they all seem to have obvious roles within the progression of that episode... Quimby playing the political role of legalizing (or banning) gay marriage, Wiggum enforcing it by arresting Homer, and Brockman doing a news report on Homer's antics. - pierce

[2004-07-28 12:25:02] - Pierce: How about people like Quimby or Wiggum or Brockman? -Paul

[2004-07-28 12:22:14] - Paul: ehhh, Snake is too much of a one trick pony.  I don't think it'll be any of the characters who have had no development beyond their primary joke.  So not Snake, not the pirate (isn't he already gay?), not Comic Book Guy, not Bumblebee Man... - pierce

[2004-07-28 12:19:17] - How about snake? Or whoever the criminal guy is. -Paul

[2004-07-28 12:18:49] - Vinnie: I was thinking of her too. I think she is just a little too small of a character though. -Paul

[2004-07-28 12:18:11] - I don't think it'll be Ms. Hoover... she's almost never mentioned in the show these days.  I'd suspect they'd pick someone that the audience "knows", and has preconcieved notions of. - pierce

[2004-07-28 12:14:44] - paul: yeah - vinnie

[2004-07-28 12:10:23] - Vinnie: Is she Lisa's teacher? -Paul

[2004-07-28 12:09:32] - as for the female characters thing, someone on another message board suggested ms. hoover - vinnie

[2004-07-28 12:09:07] - I agree with the asexual thing. there was an episode a few years ago that dealt with them growing up too fast and wanting to do kid things (the one with lisa kudrow, I think) - vinnie

[2004-07-28 12:08:23] - I don't see it being skinner. the fact that he started a secret relationship with edna almost seems to rule that out - vinnie

[2004-07-28 11:38:03] - I can kind of see it being Patty or Selma, but it seems too obvious and I can't really think of any other female characters that I think it might be. - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:37:27] - Here are my bets so far: 1. Milhouse's dad; 2. Principal Skinner; 3. Barney. - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:34:37] - I dunno, I wouldn't suspect it's a kid because all of the kids are presented as prepubescently asexual, and I think I like it better that way.  It kind of takes away from the creators' ability to deal with whimsical childhood problems (like bullies or homework) if the kids start talking about sexual issues. - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:32:56] - But yeah, it's something like that. - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:31:56] - Vinnie: I don't even know anymore. - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:30:47] - pierce: I was actually thinking that might be the reason they won't make it milhouse. isn't he still 10? - vinnie

[2004-07-28 11:29:49] - I mean, I know she looks like a baby, but how long has this damn show been on now? - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:29:31] - She's a minor, right? - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:29:03] - It's maggie. - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:27:29] - I'd hate it to be lenny or carl. part of what makes them funny right now is that they have this relationship that hasn't been acknowledged as homosexual. I too am hoping it's a more minor character, so that it won't greatly contradict stuff - vinnie

[2004-07-28 11:21:58] - But his dad is divorced, has all of Milhouse's personality traits that may have made you guess him, and we don't know of any womanizing on his part other than his failed marriage. - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:19:47] - Vinnie: or maybe Milhouse's dad... I'm guessing it's going to be presented within the context of the episode, which means that it's someone who is going to try to get married... which negates Milhouse. - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:19:18] - And it better not be Smithers, because that would just be too anti-climatic. -Paul

[2004-07-28 11:13:27] - I hope it's not going to be something that will seemingly contradict previous episodes. Like having it be Flanders would be strange considering all the female love interests he has had. -Paul

[2004-07-28 11:12:30] - Vinnie: Yeah, they left out a lot of seemingly more obvious ones. Carl and Lenny, Moe, Rod and Tod... -Paul

[2004-07-28 11:12:02] - My bet is Barney, but I'd be very amused if it was Flanders. - pierce

[2004-07-28 11:07:20] - paul: they don't list the character I guessed as soon as I saw the article: milhouse - vinnie

[2004-07-28 11:06:11] - Vinnie: Out of the choices listed there, I gotta go with groundskeeper Willy. -Paul

[2004-07-28 11:04:23] - http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail109.html one of the best sbemails in a while, IMO. - pierce

[2004-07-28 10:51:41] - http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/28/1090693989897.html?oneclick=true something gay, no doubt... - vinnie

[2004-07-28 09:32:00] - Mig: It's scary when doctor's become agents of the state as well. -Paul

[2004-07-28 09:25:19] - paul:  perhaps we should check up on the crazy laws that va has passed (or might pass).  I guess I might have to be careful on what I tell my doctor.... - mig

[2004-07-28 09:10:38] - haha, great interview. I wish I could hear it because I can't get a sense of the tone - vinnie

[2004-07-28 09:09:40] - Mig: That must've been hell to watch. -Paul

[2004-07-28 09:07:16] - http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Badnarik%20in%20Debates.htm 68% say Badnarik should be invited to debates. -Paul

[2004-07-28 09:06:09] - http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yes&id=4610 Not sure how true this is, but I think it's funny nonetheless. -Paul

[2004-07-27 23:10:15] - That's pretty good! Michael Moore can be pretty obnoxious. I'm impressed by how much random stuff they can both pull out of history, on the spot. I guess that's how it goes when you're arguing about something you really care about. - aaron

[2004-07-27 20:46:09] - http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc4.htm this is so hilarious confrontation between Michael Moore and Bill O'Reilly.  the no spin zone is in full gear! - mig

[2004-07-27 19:10:32] - http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/26/technology/26patent.html This sounds so incredibly cute! I want a person-car! - aaron

[2004-07-27 17:12:38] - the message board (and others) went down this time because comcast decided to change my ip.  no biggie.  vinnie and miguel, i sent you an email; you should update your dns accordingly.  ~a

[2004-07-27 10:28:23] - I already got that done, thankfully. otherwise, yes, the examination would have found much wrong with me - vinnie

[2004-07-27 10:24:05] - vinnie: I hope your doctor's appt isn't to get your blood pressure (or hearing) checked, then. - pierce

[2004-07-27 10:20:09] - i'm permanently on edge waiting for the next alarm. it's horrible - vinnie

[2004-07-27 10:19:35] - arrrrrrggghhhhh! they are testing the fire alarms today. it's been going on and off for an hour and a half! - vinnie

[2004-07-27 10:18:53] - what? that can't be legal, unless there's some sort of limit on how long you can keep the songs - vinnie

[2004-07-27 09:54:13] - http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1090665865995&call_pageid=968867495754&col=96 Bush wins big at Stupidity Awards -Paul

[2004-07-27 09:45:28] - http://www.cato.org/dailys/07-27-04.html Some interesting proposed drunk driving laws. -Paul

[2004-07-27 09:17:11] - Aaron: Well, I know it's legal for me. -Paul

[2004-07-27 07:59:14] - Like borrowing your transformers soundtrack, burning it to MP3, and then giving the CD back to you - that's legal - aaron

[2004-07-27 07:58:52] - paul: Copying or burning a copy of a CD, then giving back the CD. Usually "it" refers to the rightmost object in the sentence, although I guess in this context it could be vague because "CD someone else lets you borrow" might not be a separate object in this sentence - aaron

[2004-07-26 20:06:42] - no, i give you my cd, and you copy that cd and give me the original back.  that apparently is legal. -mig

[2004-07-26 19:03:43] - Mig: I'm a bit confused. So I give you a CD and you give me a copy of it in return and that's legal? -Paul

[2004-07-26 18:49:54] - paul:  yes, apparently as long as the medium you are copying physically changes hands then it's all legal. - mig

[2004-07-26 18:16:45] - aaron:  yeah!  and i'll never use the navigation toolbar ever again.  ~a

[2004-07-26 18:14:50] - Aaron: Giving what back? The original or the burned copy? -Paul

[2004-07-26 18:11:56] - a: Love opening a multitude of links with one big gesture. It's so much less tedious than clicking each one! - aaron

[2004-07-26 18:03:14] - how come nobody told me mouse gestures were so cool?  ~a

[2004-07-26 18:02:58] - what's the fair use act?  ~a

[2004-07-26 18:01:11] - One of my coworkers insists that copying or burning a copy of a CD someone else lets you borrow, and then giving it back is explicitly covered under the fair use act. Has anybody else heard of this? - aaron

[2004-07-26 13:43:17] - pierce:  "If you load up tabs in the background from a bookmark"  or any link in general.  ~a

[2004-07-26 13:42:43] - pierce:  the bug affects ff also.  ~a

[2004-07-26 13:40:34] - Vinnie: Their policies hurt women and minorities. -Paul

[2004-07-26 13:29:36] - paul: besides that, I meant - vinnie

[2004-07-26 13:28:00] - Vinnie: They are war criminals who are in the pocket of big oil and they are the dumbest rock band ever. -Paul

[2004-07-26 13:21:46] - what's wrong with the general public? they had a few good songs http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=GENERAL|PUBLIC&uid=CADMR0407261320&sql=11:v2jn7i5jg76r~T1 - vinnie

[2004-07-26 13:06:15] - Dave: I hate the general public. -Paul

[2004-07-26 13:04:57] - Paul: The general public is fairly stupid, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it swayed by knee-jerk reactions -dave

[2004-07-26 13:04:13] - Paul: Yeah, I know that you (and I too) hate knee-jerk reactions, but I couldn't have said whether the general public was affected the same way -dave

[2004-07-26 12:57:57] - Pierce: But I do see what you're talking about, it's not just with bookmarks. -Paul

[2004-07-26 12:57:16] - It would be really nice to be able to arrow down to an entry and hit "delete" to keep it from popping up every time you started typing in that field - aaron

[2004-07-26 12:56:42] - pierce: The really annoying thing is that even if it's a harmless mistake (typing your company password in a different secure field on the company's web site), there's no way to clear a specific entry in that "recent things entered in this field" mapping - aaron

[2004-07-26 12:56:29] - Pierce: Good thing I don't know how to load up tabs in the background from a bookmark. -Paul

[2004-07-26 12:56:06] - mig: There are probably legitimate reasons to hate every presidential candidate that ever was. -Paul

[2004-07-26 12:49:08] - well the difference in the bush-hating is that there are pretty legitamate reasons for bringing the hate on.  even conservatives are joining in on it. - mig

[2004-07-26 12:48:42] - jeez, what a dumb and potentially dangerous mozilla bug.  If you load up tabs in the background from a bookmark, and one of them autofocuses a field (like the message board), and you start typing and hit enter, the typing will go into that field (and the enter will submit it) even if you're not looking at that tab. - pierce

[2004-07-26 12:47:14] - this is a test. - pierce

[2004-07-26 12:45:24] - etflix.com

[2004-07-26 12:34:11] - Aaron: He's also the president of the moon. -Paul

[2004-07-26 12:31:30] - The 43d president? I didn't realize W had so many dimensions. And here i am only appreciating him on three. - aaron

[2004-07-26 12:30:05] - Dave: I know that I usually (but not always) get annoyed by people who seem to have a knee-jerk hatred of people. -Paul

[2004-07-26 12:03:20] - paul: I wouldn't have necessarily thought beforehand that having such an extreme reaction to a candidate would actually hurt the other side. But I suppose it makes sense on some lvl -dave

[2004-07-26 12:02:33] - paul: quite interesting article on bush-hating and candidate-hating effects -dave

[2004-07-26 09:35:12] - paul: not good but interesting - vinnie

[2004-07-26 09:24:55] - http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6876 I wonder if any good can come of Moore reporting on the Republican convention and Coulter reporting on the Democratic convention. -Paul

[2004-07-26 09:21:31] - http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20040723-082949-9397r.htm Somebody hasn't heard of line breaks. -Paul

[2004-07-26 09:20:09] - http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2004/07/25/bush_haters_do_kerry_no_favors/ Bush-haters do Kerry no favors -Paul

[2004-07-26 08:46:13] - I dunno, I feel like it's a joke because the page is so asinine in its design and wording. - pierce

[2004-07-26 08:44:45] - Oh, incidentally, here's the link for those who care, since I forgot to paste it. http://www.gigasociety.org/gigaweb.htm - pierce

[2004-07-26 08:27:49] - http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=165207 Episode III to be called Revenge of the Sith -dave

[2004-07-26 08:06:39] - http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20040722_153513.html 32 states sue wireless companies, prompt companies to provide trial period with no termination fee -dave

[2004-07-26 08:01:25] - http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=5761558 Trojan which displays pics of supposed bin Laden suicide is prompting people to knowingly infect themselves -dave

[2004-07-26 08:00:06] - http://news.com.com/RealNetworks+breaks+Apple's+hold+on+iPod/2100-1027_3-5282063.html?tag=nefd.top RealNetworks cracks Apple's Fairplay DRM. Claims songs downloaded from Real can be played on iPod. Expect legal hijinx to commence -dave

[2004-07-26 07:27:35] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1846193 O'Neal takes out full page ad in LA Times to thank fans -dave

[2004-07-26 07:25:41] - major setback for the prosecutors -dave

[2004-07-26 07:25:29] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1845483 accuser's sexual history to be allowed in Bryant case -dave

[2004-07-26 07:17:48] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1846361 Ricky Williams retiring from football, at 28 and at the peak of his career, surprising almost everyone -dave

[2004-07-26 07:02:49] - *gives adrian a rousing round of applause for getting the msg board back online* -dave

[2004-07-26 02:12:38] - pierce:  "How many continents the Earth?".  it's hard to believe this isn't a joke.  but i guess i believe it.  ~a

[2004-07-26 01:53:10] - Hehehe. Found this link on metafilter, to the Giga Society... like mensa, only you have to be in the 99.9999999th percentile (one-in-a-billion). The funny part is that their big "puzzle" on their page about the emblem of the society claims that the emblem is not reprinted on the page... except it is, as part of the phrase "An IQ of 196..." - pierce

[2004-07-26 00:36:03] - 1.5! = 3*Sqrt(Pi)/4.  why?  ~a

[2004-07-25 20:02:05] - http://www.apple.co.jp/quicktime/trailers/gaga/mach_large.html

[2004-07-25 04:20:09] - fyi, services were down due to firmware (linksys) malfunction.  firmware has since been rebooted.  ~a

[2004-07-21 21:35:40] - they did manage to sneak his actual name into the caption on the photo - travis

[2004-07-21 18:21:45] - Aaron: I'm not even sure where they get that acronym from. -Paul

[2004-07-21 18:09:32] - I like how they don't even mention his name in the article. "the jg". It's a lot easier to remember that's for sure - aaron

[2004-07-21 18:08:57] - Travis: Bye. -Paul

[2004-07-21 18:07:58] - peace i'm outta here! - travis

[2004-07-21 18:07:22] - too much haterade, obviously - travis

[2004-07-21 18:06:34] - Travis: Yeah, I don't really see where all the hatin' comes from. I chalk it up to him being a sports writer. -Paul

[2004-07-21 18:02:54] - man, so much hate for ken from that article.  he actually seems like kind of a cool guy (in a geeky way, of course) - travis

[2004-07-21 18:02:41] - Travis: Silly, they give you the answer. I don't think so, though. I think Alex had to read the 'question' off the card. -Paul

[2004-07-21 18:01:46] - Travis: I must've missed that episode. -Paul

[2004-07-21 18:00:12] - paul: didn't someone else ring in with the answer? - travis

[2004-07-21 17:59:45] - one of the people from work i watched it with got it right for the same reason - travis

[2004-07-21 17:59:11] - Travis: In that case, why didn't he have the answer to the $1,000 comic book question that one night? -Paul

[2004-07-21 17:59:02] - i remember that bald guy that actually challenged him, and the final jeopardy question being "what is leprosy?" because i knew it thanks to the simpsons episode where homer and bart think they have leprosy - travis

[2004-07-21 17:57:00] - paul: he's so funny and proud that he's a nerd, there was another comic book collector on the show last night and alex asked them about a character's name and ken said they'd have a nerd conference and report back - travis

[2004-07-21 17:26:25] - Travis: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040721 You might enjoy this. -Paul

[2004-07-21 17:10:00] - Dave: You'll love anchorman and dodgeball then. -Paul

[2004-07-21 17:06:35] - Paul: Incidentally, I love it when big stars do random small spots in movies -dave

[2004-07-21 17:06:00] - Paul: I thought it was pretty cool, very surprising at the least -dave

[2004-07-21 17:03:01] - Dave: Supposedly it wasn't planned. I heard that Dafoe was joking around with the director about making a cameo and so he threw him in at the last second. -Paul

[2004-07-21 17:02:11] - I was surprised as heck that they had that small part with Dafoe in it -dave

[2004-07-21 16:55:07] - Vinnie: I'm almost positive they had the same wording again. How could they not? They basically had the exact same type of scene where Peter is questioning his duty. Hell, they even brought the dead uncle back. -Paul

[2004-07-21 16:44:55] - I know the moral was the same - vinnie

[2004-07-21 16:44:41] - did they really have "with great power comes great responsibility" in SM2 word-for-word? I thought it was just something really similar like "with great strength comes great duty" - vinnie

[2004-07-21 16:40:17] - I think another spiderman movie would be cool...if it had venom in it. He's one of my favorite chars ^_^ -dave

[2004-07-21 16:32:24] - hahahaha - vinnie

[2004-07-21 16:29:51] - mig: That brings up an interesting point. There's only been one SuprerGIRL movie though. Shouldn't Title IX force producers to make a couple more Supergirl movies before making a new Superman movie? -Paul

[2004-07-21 16:26:33] - Do we really need another fucking superman movie?  We've had 4 already. - mig

[2004-07-21 16:25:12] - I swear, if I hear one more time about how "with great power comes great responsibility"... -Paul

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