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[2004-08-06 14:46:14] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/movies/varsityblues The sports guy reviews Varsity Blues. -Paul
[2004-08-06 14:26:04] - Paul: yeah, it got kinda backwards / confusing saying the parents telling them not to do something was extreme if it wasn't an extreme thing for a kid to do ^_^ -dave
[2004-08-06 14:20:32] - Dave: Ah, ok. I misunderstood. Sorry. -Paul
[2004-08-06 14:01:20] - Paul: hence why it may do some good for the parent to tell them not to do drugs even if the kid doesn't listen to them about abstaining from sex -dave
[2004-08-06 14:00:27] - Paul: that's exactly my point. it's harder for the kid to abstain from sex, so it is more extreme for the parent to tell them not to have sex (than not doing drugs) -dave
[2004-08-06 11:49:59] - Dave: Hard to say. I think abstaining from drugs is easier than abstaining from sex.
-Paul[2004-08-06 11:20:38] - Paul: meaning, a kid is probably more likely to obey the parent about the drugs than about the sex- dave
[2004-08-06 11:20:19] - Paul: it's probably about how "extreme" the statement is, that the parent gives the child. Like "don't have sex" is probably more extreme than "don't do drugs" -dave
[2004-08-06 11:03:20] - I didn't know "lez" was good. That's a great z-word. - aaron
[2004-08-06 10:56:59] - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/08/05/national2230EDT0803.DTL Three-letter word sparks Scrabble scramble -Paul
[2004-08-06 10:27:39] - http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/smith/smith6.html A good article on why the Fed is a bad thing. -Paul
[2004-08-06 09:58:03] - Vinnie: Maybe that's what they should be suggesting. I'll bet that does a better job at preventing sex than a lot of sleep.
-Paul[2004-08-06 09:57:19] - http://www.fredoneverything.net/Mexicanas.shtml Another reason to move out of the country. -Paul
[2004-08-06 09:51:30] - hahaha, a "clear head about sex". is that what happened in something about mary? - vinnie
[2004-08-06 09:49:51] - paul: hey, don't ask me, I don't agree with that! people aren't always right. or even often right
- vinnie[2004-08-06 09:46:01] - Vinnie: So then why do we continue to tell kids to not use drugs instead of teaching them to use drugs safely?
-Paul[2004-08-06 09:45:26] - Oh, and I know this is from awhile ago, but I'm not so sure Ralph Fiennes can pull of Voldermort. He seems too famous and good.
-Paul[2004-08-06 09:41:32] - paul: it's the same difference between parents telling kids to use seat belts vs. avoiding cars altogether. one is unreasonable to most people, the other isn't; one cuts off a lot of potential fun in your youth, the other doesn't
- vinnie[2004-08-06 09:38:04] - http://www.reason.com/sullum/080604.shtml This is why private ownership and state ownership cannot coexist. -Paul
[2004-08-06 09:19:47] - If kids aren't going to listen to their parents/teachers about not having sex, what makes anybody think they're going to listen to them about using a condom (or birth control or whatever)? -Paul
[2004-08-06 09:13:39] - hmm it ate a part of the link http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/08/05/texas.textbooks.reut/index.html - aaron
[2004-08-06 09:13:20] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCA"a good way a teen-ager can prevent a sexually transmitted disease is to get plenty of rest so he or she can have a clear head about sex and choose abstinence." - aaron
[2004-08-06 09:00:03] - Dave: Doesn't have to be a free agent. I know there were grumblings of a Peja for Artest deal. -Paul
[2004-08-06 08:26:30] - pierce: why, you a fan of Fischers? -dave
[2004-08-06 08:14:39] - I didn't realize Fischer was an anti-semite. It's more than a little disappointing. - pierce
[2004-08-06 07:44:24] - http://www.forbes.com/business/2004/08/04/cz_dl_0804sco.html haha, just after the SCO CEO said there would be no more lawsuits, they are considering adding another lawsuit against IBM -dave
[2004-08-06 07:40:56] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/08/06/fischer.japan/index.html Fischer trying to renounce US citizenship -dave
[2004-08-06 07:34:07] - http://entertainment.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=166016 reality show....with prize being a year's worth of help from lawyers in getting a green card -dave
[2004-08-06 07:31:33] - http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=166020 Halle wants another Catwoman. Bratt's attempt at cracking the whip ended with him smacking the back of his head -dave
[2004-08-06 07:22:59] - travis: they don't have a listing somewhere of who was in a music video? -dave
[2004-08-06 07:20:45] - Paul: wow....that would be pretty amazing if peja was traded. I wonder what they would get back in return? Most of the big players have already been dealt, yes? -dave
[2004-08-05 21:41:42] - does anyone know how to find actors from music videos? there's a hot chick in an earshot video but i can't find out who she is (and she's not in the band) - travis
[2004-08-05 20:15:52] - http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpNWZic251BF9TAzI1NjY0ODI1BHNlYwN0aA--?slug=ap-kings-stojakovictrade&prov=ap&type=lgns Peja wants to be traded by the Kings? -Paul
[2004-08-05 18:25:21] - Mig: Nope.
-Paul[2004-08-05 18:15:37] - anyone else think the cowboys are going to severely regret cutting Qunicy Carter? - mig
[2004-08-05 15:47:47] - http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BB0C5FCDF%2DFC03%2D42F1%2DB966%2DDC05B5EAB6AD%7D&siteid=mktw Nintendo denies Microsoft offer (to buy) -dave
[2004-08-05 12:49:03] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42199-2004Aug5.html Sean Taylor being held as backup right now -dave
[2004-08-05 12:46:52] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41820-2004Aug5.html hehe, 911 operator falls asleep...apparently after he had started talking to the woman -dave
[2004-08-05 12:44:43] - Dave: Argentina, I think. -Paul
[2004-08-05 12:43:16] - Paul: Ginobili isn't from Italy? -dave
[2004-08-05 11:54:07] - For instance, I tried accessing my bank of america investments page through firefox last night and the menu system didn't even show up. The site map didn't even work for some reason as clicking on the links did nothing. -Paul
[2004-08-05 11:53:25] - Travis: Yeah, I've noticed that with ign.com a lot. I can tolerate that, at least. Even the bug with the text on the ESPN chat pages. What really bothers me is that a lot of the functionality of some web pages aren't even there. -Paul
[2004-08-05 11:50:19] - especially the first time you go to that page, stuff jumps all over the place for a while - travis
[2004-08-05 11:49:51] - paul: i've noticed problems with firefox on pages like http://www.gamespot.com that have a lot of graphics and code behind it - travis
[2004-08-05 11:45:51] - mig: ahh, nm, you're right -dave
[2004-08-05 11:45:21] - mig: you sure? I thought they did? -dave
[2004-08-05 10:43:10] - Mig: Italy doesn't even have any NBA players. -Paul
[2004-08-05 10:30:35] - jesus, the USA team is pretty sad. germany didn't even qualify for the olympics. - mig
[2004-08-05 09:34:11] - Vinnie: Ok, maybe that's the thing that ties it all together. Do you think they are going to fix that with the final release? Otherwise I might have to go back to IE. -Paul
[2004-08-05 09:28:34] - paul: I've noticed many pages with javascript are basically unusable with firefox - vinnie
[2004-08-05 09:23:51] - The first time a defense attorney has donned tiger gloves to defend his client against molestation charges? - aaron
[2004-08-05 09:16:16] - Has anybody else noticed a bunch of annoying little bugs with firefox? There are at least three sites that I can think of off the top of my head which seem to have problems with firefox and sometimes those problems make the page impossible to use. -Paul
[2004-08-05 09:09:14] - Whenever a guy is accused of some sort of sexual offense against a woman, he's guilty until proven innocent (and even then, he is often still assumed guilty). -Paul
[2004-08-05 08:25:30] - http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer04/basketball/news/story?id=1852137 Iverson hits buzzer-beater for win against Germany -dave
[2004-08-05 08:24:42] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41323-2004Aug5.html Ralph Fiennes = Voldemort -dave
[2004-08-05 08:15:37] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/08/04/tainted.meat.ap/index.html about 500k lbs of beef recalled for having e-coli in them -dave
[2004-08-05 08:10:17] - poor guy still has been fired from his job -dave
[2004-08-05 08:10:07] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/08/04/tigger.trial.ap/index.html man acquitted of fondling 13 year old while in tigger costume -dave
[2004-08-05 07:47:59] - jeez, 200 mph? you don't even see tennis serves getting that high -dave
[2004-08-04 17:19:14] - Aaron: Same. It also seems crazy that the air conditioning can affect the birdies when they are getting hit back and forth so fast. -Paul
[2004-08-04 17:18:02] - I never realized people could birdies so fast. I always kind of thought they chose that unaerodynamic design and material to slow down the play/make it safer for kids or something. - aaron
[2004-08-04 17:05:43] - http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer04/badminton/news/story?id=1845228 Badminton is a tougher sport than you might think. -Paul
[2004-08-04 16:27:11] - Dave: I agree with most of those myths and realities, although I think some of the stats they quoted can be deceiving. -Paul
[2004-08-04 16:16:57] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/08/04/colleges.ebay.ap/index.html colleges selling surplus on ebay -dave
[2004-08-04 16:13:39] - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/ncaa/specials/preview/2004/mainbar/index.html?cnn=yes interesting article on the myths and realities of what you need to win a national championship in college football -dave
[2004-08-04 16:07:06] - Aaron: I wonder how much truth there is to those stories. My natural tendency is to doubt the validity of them and the fact that they came from Michael Moore doesn't help much. -Paul
[2004-08-04 15:52:11] - Going by what I saw on "The Awful Truth" he's probably rolling in crabs - aaron
[2004-08-04 14:57:11] - Dave: And you know if he was working as tigger that he's not exactly rolling in dough. -Paul
[2004-08-04 14:53:43] - Paul: yeah, it seems pretty reasonable to me too. Poor guy, fired from his job, and now he has to pay lawyer fees -dave
[2004-08-04 13:14:07] - Travis: Yeah, his defense argument seems pretty reasonable to me. I have no idea what it's like to move around in a tigger suit but I imagine it would be pretty easy for him to accidentally rest his hand on a girl's breast without even realizing it. -Paul
[2004-08-04 13:09:08] - that's almost what his defense argument is
- travis[2004-08-04 13:01:09] - Travis: You also have to wonder what the guy in the tigger suit had to gain from groping her. Could he even feel anything through the suit? -Paul
[2004-08-04 12:48:58] - dave: i actually wound up liking catwoman although i have no real explanation as to why except it was fun to watch - travis
[2004-08-04 12:47:49] - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=816&e=1&u=/ap/20040803/ap_on_fe_st/britain_druid note to self: become druid, buy sword - travis
[2004-08-04 12:47:00] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/08/03/tigger.trial.ap/index.html ya gotta wonder how well developed this 13 year old girl is to be complaining about being groped - travis
[2004-08-04 12:42:41] - Those last two posts were supposed to go together, btw.
-Paul[2004-08-04 12:42:28] - "That's like if US Weekly decided their next 25 covers ahead of time last March, then couldn't adjust when Lindsay Lohan and her breasts had their breakout spring." -Paul
[2004-08-04 12:42:22] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040804
[2004-08-04 12:40:15] - dave: It's probably the same thing with how construction workers feel comfortable walking around on scaffolding and stuff. People like us would be petrified under those circumstances but i guess you get used to it if you prune regularly - aaron
[2004-08-04 12:37:50] - i mean, those things are definitely not light, and I'd be scared that the person would drop it -dave
[2004-08-04 12:36:27] - actually, it's kinda stupid in the first place to be anywhere near where someone on a ladder with a chainsaw could fall on you. -dave
[2004-08-04 12:14:49] - Dave: I'm not sure why I saw it, but I did. -Paul
[2004-08-04 11:56:59] - paul: well I didn't see it cuz I didn't think i'd like it at all -dave
[2004-08-04 11:42:52] - Aaron: My guess is that she didn't even have enough time to react. -Paul
[2004-08-04 11:37:27] - that tree-trimming situation is really freaky... I mean your husband falls from 15 feet while holding a chainsaw, what's your instinct? do you try to catch him or try to get out of the way? what a disturbing way to die - aaron
[2004-08-04 11:11:00] - Dave: Well, I thought it was pretty horrible, but I also have a reputation for not liking movies so maybe you would like it.
-Paul[2004-08-04 11:05:36] - Paul: what's that mean? so was it worth seeing? -dave
[2004-08-04 11:01:42] - Dave: This was a little more intense than simple yelling. As for what I thought of the movie, let's just say that it was pretty much what I expected. -Paul
[2004-08-04 11:00:37] - Paul: wow, you saw the movie? what'd you think? -dave
[2004-08-04 10:59:36] - Paul: don't you watch tv? so many kisses happen right after two people are fighting each other ^_^ -dave
[2004-08-04 10:56:57] - Dave: That's true, but there was only really one scene in the entire movie where the two were alone together and not trying to kill eachother so I think it would've been a little out of place.
-Paul[2004-08-04 10:50:20] - Paul: don't you think lesbian kiss' fit anywhere? ^_^ -dave
[2004-08-04 10:40:54] - http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39783 Another reason to want Bush out of office.
Seriously, though, I can't imagine how a lesbian kiss would've fit within the movie at ALL. -Paul[2004-08-04 10:36:32] - Dave: Not since I last checked. That link reminds me of a scene from the Dawn of the Dead remake (or was it Day of the Dead?) -Paul
[2004-08-04 10:33:30] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/04/uk.chainsaw.death.reut/index.html man falls while trimming a tree with a chainsaw and kills his wife who was gardening below -dave
[2004-08-04 10:32:03] - Paul: you're not a penniless hippie? -dave
[2004-08-04 10:26:18] - So in other words, no. I don't agree with that.
-Paul[2004-08-04 10:26:00] - Dave: I'm more of a Professor Farnsworthian, I can own land because I'm not a penniless hippie. -Paul
[2004-08-04 10:24:51] - Paul: the geo guys -dave
[2004-08-04 09:45:14] - Dave: The article as a whole or the position of the georgists (or whatever)? -Paul
[2004-08-04 09:43:01] - Paul: is that something you agree with? -dave
[2004-08-04 09:42:51] - I find it interesting that he says this "because of its limited nature, cannot be privately owned in the same unqualified sense that other capital, labor, or goods can be owned" -dave
[2004-08-04 09:36:26] - http://www.rationalreview.com/guest/080404.shtml A libertarian's opinion on which differences among libertarians are acceptable and which aren't. -Paul
[2004-08-04 09:22:04] - aaron: hehe yeah, but apparently it's the second season, so musta done well enough to survive -dave
[2004-08-04 09:21:28] - http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17639 copy music to Ipod illegal in Australia -dave
[2004-08-04 09:19:03] - way to break new ground, nbc - aaron
[2004-08-04 09:18:35] - dave: wow so it's like the miss america pageant, only televised! - aaron
[2004-08-04 09:15:51] - http://news.com.com/Army+supercomputing+drafts+Intel%2C+AMD/2100-1006_3-5294109.html?tag=nefd.top Army Research Lab buys supercompters, one Intel based and one AMD based. Amusing comments following the article included a suggestion that they have the two play chess -dave
[2004-08-04 09:13:07] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37327-2004Aug3.html Kinda like American Idol, except for swimsuit models -dave
[2004-08-04 09:11:20] - It's interesting that Kerry supports abolishing this ban (which I can understand) but also supports putting protectionist measures into place to support US businesses in other areas. At least I'm pretty sure he supports the latter. Feel free to correct me -dave
[2004-08-04 09:09:44] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37705-2004Aug3.html Cato institude opposes drug import ban -dave
[2004-08-04 09:07:13] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38303-2004Aug4.html DVD-copying software company folds. Ironically / unfortunately, I own their software -dave
[2004-08-04 09:05:21] - "To "prove" a captive is an enemy combatant, the government need only present "credible evidence." Once this is accomplished, the burden shifts to the detainee -- who must then prove that he was not affiliated with either al Qaeda or the Taliban." -dave
[2004-08-04 09:04:51] - from what I can tell, the Supreme Court ruled that there is in fact a "war on terrorism" and that people can be detained. -dave
[2004-08-04 09:02:58] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38134-2004Aug3.html Interesting commentary on the Supreme court rulings on detaining people (US citizens included) who are thought to be affiliated with al Quaeda or the Taliban -dave
[2004-08-04 09:01:36] - Paul: yeah, I agree to a certain extent with your viewpoint that the media has a huge part in spinning the information one way or another. I'm undecided as to which side they would come down on, though I wouldn't be surprised if they criticized Bush rather than supported him if something like that happened -dave
[2004-08-04 08:52:09] - Dave: Very well, I'll take your word for it that's what the article says. I was just trying to offer my own viewpoint. -Paul
[2004-08-04 08:47:58] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38167-2004Aug3.html Operator abandons metro train in the middle of rush hour, catches train going in the opposite direction -dave
[2004-08-04 08:19:55] - http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/02/HNscoforumnosue_1.html SCO CEO says no more lawsuits to be filed -dave
[2004-08-04 08:07:01] - anyone wanna guess as to what Team USA will win, if anything? -dave
[2004-08-04 08:06:49] - http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer04/basketball/news/story?id=1851520 Team USA loses to Italy 95 to 78 -dave
[2004-08-04 08:02:44] - Paul: at least that's what I got from the article -dave
[2004-08-04 08:02:23] - Paul: I understand that how the media covered it would make a difference, but just in GENERAL the event would be positive for Bush and negative for Kerry -dave
[2004-08-04 08:01:21] - Paul: hehe, this is kinda funny, all I was trying to say was that politcal people from both camps thought it would benefit Bush, meaning, Kerry doesn't want an attack to happen because it would be more difficult for him to deal with than Bush who it would probably benefit -dave
[2004-08-03 21:21:17] - and a fourth. ~a
[2004-08-03 16:56:02] - looks like chapelle's having a third season after all! http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/03/television.chappelle.reut/index.html - aaron
[2004-08-03 16:10:22] - Dave: I'm not even saying that there will be any bias, and even if they stick to reporting the facts there are different possible ways to portray things. Are they going to report the facts of what went wrong or the facts of the motivations of the terrorists? -Paul
[2004-08-03 15:56:46] - Paul: not that I don't think they will put a spin of some sort on it, but for the sake of judging whether just the event would help Bush or Kerry more -dave
[2004-08-03 15:55:44] - Paul: I would think the "even" way for them to portray it would be to just report the facts, such and such a train blew up at such and such a time killing X number of people etc -dave
[2004-08-03 15:35:33] - Dave: Well, that's just it. I don't know what the "even" way for the media to portray such a thing would be. Will the media focus on why the government didn't stop the attack or will they focus more on the possiblity of terrorists trying to influence elections? Both are valid ways of covering the event I think. -Paul
[2004-08-03 15:30:44] - Paul: probably, I mean any issue would be subject to other factors, but given everything else being even... -dave
[2004-08-03 15:27:02] - Dave: I think a lot also depends on how the media portrays it. -Paul
[2004-08-03 15:19:37] - the politicos being "Peter D. Feaver, a political scientist at Duke University who studies national security and public opinion" and an anonymous Kerry adviser -dave
[2004-08-03 15:18:27] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35372-2004Aug2.html article that brings up the issue and has both repub and dem. politicos saying that it would create a "rally around the flag" mentality and quite probably push Bush through the election, given that he didn't "politicize" the even too much -dave
[2004-08-03 15:17:26] - (°,
[2004-08-03 15:17:22] - I remember that we discussed the impact of a terrorist attack before the election, with me initially saying it would be good for Bush, but then some other people commenting that it would be bad. -dave
[2004-08-03 12:32:41] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/08/02/maggot.medicine.ap/index.html if you're faced with amputation or the maggots, I think most people would try the maggots. - aaron
[2004-08-03 11:43:22] - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/ncaa/08/03/marcus.vick.ap/index.html?cnn=yes Marcus Vick suspended for season -dave
[2004-08-03 11:40:44] - aaron: heh heh, kinda funny, although it doesn't really surprise me. Probably fairly practical -dave
[2004-08-03 11:28:15] - So if you copy a folder with 100-character path names into a folder which has a 200-character path name, very weird things happen... you can't navigate to certain folders, you might double-click them and nothing happens. - aaron
[2004-08-03 11:27:26] - I just found out windows path names are restricted to being 255 characters long - aaron
[2004-08-03 11:08:05] - Dave: Then let's compare how much money she makes from posing for magazines and doing commercials compared to how much money I make from those things.
-Paul[2004-08-03 10:58:49] - Paul: Although, if you go by how catwoman did, she may be right that looks don't help ^_^ -dave
[2004-08-03 10:52:49] - Damn firefox bug!
-Paul[2004-08-03 10:52:37] - ww.msn.com
[2004-08-03 09:47:54] - Dave: Because everybody went to see Catwoman because of her sterling acting ability.
-Paul[2004-08-03 09:46:40] - Paul: yeah, I was rather skeptical and thought the same thing. Something like "yeah, and I'm sure you coulda made just as much money as an ugly person" -dave
[2004-08-03 09:21:54] - Dave: Of course she really wouldn't know that for sure unless she's spent some time as an ugly person like the rest of us.
-Paul[2004-08-03 08:45:49] - http://entertainment.msn.com/celebs/article.aspx?news=165845 Halle Berry says beauty has "spared me nothing in life" -dave
[2004-08-03 07:48:49] - http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=22679 IBM puts 85 mil worth of code out to open source -dave
[2004-08-03 07:43:51] - 27 of which are held by Microsoft.. OSDL stands ready to change any portions of infringing code that are pointed out -dave
[2004-08-03 07:40:52] - http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5291403.html 283 POTENTIAL patent infringements found in Linux -dave
[2004-08-03 07:40:00] - http://www.mozilla.org/press/mozilla-2004-08-02.html Mozilla Foundation giving out $500 to anyone reporting a new serious security flaw in Mozilla -dave
[2004-08-03 07:39:34] - Paul: nope ^_^ -dave
[2004-08-02 16:14:00] - Dave: And the 20 year old sushi bar waitress doesn't raise him at all?
-Paul[2004-08-02 16:01:35] - Paul: Yeah, I like him as an actor. As a person, the multiple failed marriages thing lowers him a notch in my book -dave
[2004-08-02 15:12:39] - https://www.ipo.google.com/ Google launches IPO site. -Paul
[2004-08-02 15:04:16] - Pierce: I'm looking for eleven and a half year old girls. Let's not get perverse here. -Paul
[2004-08-02 15:01:41] - did you appreciate that awful alliteration? - pierce
[2004-08-02 15:01:24] - did you like that little leap of logic? - pierce
[2004-08-02 15:01:06] - Paul: is it a proportion thing? Are you looking for 11-year-old girls? - pierce
[2004-08-02 14:50:12] - Dave: And because he seems like a really cool guy in general. But yes, mostly because he married a girl half his age.
-Paul[2004-08-02 14:30:43] - Paul: why, just because he married a 20 year old sushi-bar waitress? -dave
[2004-08-02 14:24:28] - http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=165738 I want to be Nicholas Cage.
-Paul[2004-08-02 13:19:23] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/02/directedenergyweapons.ap/index.html Directed-energy weapons -dave
[2004-08-02 11:41:43] - Dave: Although I will say that I believe that the Republican party has more libertarian leaning people than the democratic party. -Paul
[2004-08-02 11:40:52] - Dave: It's hard to say since I think most libertarians are of the opinion that the Republicans and Democrats are essentially the same. My guess is that, barring extraordinary cases like Ron Paul , Republicans and Democrats would be low on the voting list for most libertarians. -Paul
[2004-08-02 11:34:16] - Paul: nah, your comment was interesting, I just got all confused -dave
[2004-08-02 11:33:54] - Paul: so you would say that libertarians would vote republican over democrat more often than not? -dave
[2004-08-02 11:33:31] - Dave: Sorry about that, I'll try to stay on topic more in the future.
-Paul[2004-08-02 11:32:16] - Paul: yeah, I guess it would have changed the meaning. I suppose I was just thinking that your comment had more relevance to my statement then it did, since I was talking about Nader in specific, and then you gave some info on libertarians -dave
[2004-08-02 11:31:14] - Paul: yeah, I agree -dave
[2004-08-02 11:25:06] - Dave: It does seem silly, but I'll bet that most of the people who are registered but don't vote are only registered because people encouraged them to register even if they didn't want to. -Paul
[2004-08-02 11:24:00] - Dave: Well, saying third party candidates would have changed the meaning. -Paul
[2004-08-02 11:21:49] - Paul: yeah, I'll agree that tons of them don't. I just thought at first-glance that it was rather silly -dave
[2004-08-02 11:21:20] - Paul: that's what had me confused -dave
[2004-08-02 11:21:11] - Paul: ahh, you should have said third-party candidates to being with, and not libertarian -dave
[2004-08-02 11:20:55] - Dave: Tons of registered voters don't vote. -Paul
[2004-08-02 11:20:37] - Dave: No, Nader is almost the opposite of a libertarian. I can see why my comment confused you though, since it does seem to imply that Nader was a libertarian. I was just saying that "common knowledge" about what third party candidates hurt which major party candidates is often false. -Paul
[2004-08-02 11:19:41] - vinnie: no it doesn't, but off the top of my head, I thought it was kinda funky that someone would register to vote, and then not vote -dave
[2004-08-02 11:18:51] - Vinnie: Well, think of it this way. Most people who graduated from TJ were registered voters since most government classes forced people to sign up. -Paul
[2004-08-02 11:18:46] - Paul: yeah I did ask that. I didn't think he was, but then your comment made it sound like he was, so (shrug) -dave
[2004-08-02 11:13:43] - yeah, it doesn't take much to be a registered voter, does it? - vinnie
[2004-08-02 10:56:46] - Dave: There is a big difference between registered voters and those likely to vote in the election so I'm not surprised at all that they would make a big deal about the difference. -Paul
[2004-08-02 10:55:10] - Dave: Did you just ask me if Nader is a libertarian?
-Paul[2004-08-02 10:30:57] - Paul: the stats I posted were among registered voters. What I find mildly amusing was that the article made a distinct difference between registered voters and those that said they were likely to vote in the election -dave
[2004-08-02 10:29:35] - Paul: so you're saying that the "norm" has been that libertarians (Nader you're talking about?) draw more from the Republican side, but that recently, polls have shown them drawing more from the liberal side? -dave
[2004-08-02 09:13:05] - Since they oppose the war in Iraq, unlike Kerry and Edwards. -Paul
[2004-08-02 09:12:54] - Dave: Without taking sides, I will say that it's "common knowledge" that libertarians draw people away from the Republican vote but many polls have shown that libertarians mostly draw from people who normally wouldn't vote and some polls show libertarians drawing more support from liberals these days. -Paul
[2004-08-02 08:27:26] - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/abouttn/subscriptions/flash/promo/realstories/topten.mspx Top 10 funny IT stories. -dave
[2004-08-02 08:07:52] - http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/01/polls.bounce/index.html -dave
[2004-08-02 08:07:44] - mig: I seem to remember you saying that Nader doesn't detract from Kerry. In a recent poll from CNN, when Nader was included as an option, he detracted 3% from Kerry to bring him even with Bush among registered voters -dave
[2004-08-01 16:35:40] -
[2004-07-31 02:14:30] - either way, i'm not sure when i'll get everything done to prevent access to Adrian. Or you don't mind having businesses do not drive after having sex with an underage girl - travis
[2004-07-30 16:43:02] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/3939249.stm Vegan landlord bans meat-eaters -Paul
[2004-07-30 16:38:06] - http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/07/30/squirrels_043007.html Squirrels stealing golf balls. -Paul
[2004-07-30 16:30:15] - Mel: They would probably agree that they have an unbalanced life, but they would probably say it's worth it or some such. -Paul
[2004-07-30 16:26:06] - paul: what would the other people at your office say? -mel
[2004-07-30 16:25:21] - Mel: Then you clearly have an unbalanced life.
-Paul[2004-07-30 16:23:41] - Paul: well what if you just like your job that much? -mel
[2004-07-30 16:22:39] - Mel: I strongly disagree with that quote. Who wants a job that WILL consume 100% of you? -Paul
[2004-07-30 16:22:02] - mig: cool. I talked to my boss and it looks like he wants to try out gtk. I think based on price. So I'm going to write something simple in gtk and see if I like it. -mel
[2004-07-30 16:20:56] - great microserfs quote. "Who'd want a job that can't consume 100% of you?" I disagree with the quote now, but I can see the point. I think it's very well put.
-mel[2004-07-30 16:13:37] - It sure is obssesed about these book clubs and online newsletters. -Paul
[2004-07-30 16:13:11] - "Wiki is the World Book Clubs, Inc. All Rights of the World Book Clubs, Inc. All Rights of the World newspapers Online Insider Newsletter! The World newspapers Online Insider Newsletter! The World News and more. about the World Book Clubs, Inc. All Rights of the World newspapers Online Shopping, Online. Insider Newsletter! The World Book" -Paul
[2004-07-30 16:05:32] - I'm going to skip basketball today - don't wait up for me - aaron
[2004-07-30 16:05:12] - http://douweosinga.com/projects/googletalk what a fun little toy! My favorite one is, "Michael Jackson looks like a girl in a little canoe." It doesn't return the same result anymore - i guess google has changed since then - aaron
[2004-07-30 15:46:10] - mel: i think it would depend on what functionality. if you're just doing complex gui stuff, you might want to use qt. gtk is a litte more light weight. - mig
[2004-07-30 15:45:34] - yeah, I think basketball is still a go - vinnie
[2004-07-30 15:41:20] - I won't be at basketball, sorry. Going to my folks' place. - pierce
[2004-07-30 15:35:20] - Mig: I should be there. It's slow at work today so I'm hoping I can get out by 5:30 and show up a little early at the court to get changed before others how up. -Paul
[2004-07-30 15:34:37] - so is basketball on for today? - mig
[2004-07-30 14:15:25] - pierce: wiki knows everything.
-mel[2004-07-30 14:11:21] - Mel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_toolkit seems to imply that the old licensing restrictions of Qt are moot now, since it's released under the GPL. You might want to doublecheck that though, if you want to compile in Win32. - pierce
[2004-07-30 14:10:34] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040730 I think this is funny and interesting but people who don't follow sports might not agree. -Paul
[2004-07-30 14:09:09] - Pierce: I suppose you're right. -Paul
[2004-07-30 14:09:09] - pierce: so it matters that you liked the Qt interface more than the gtk interface (as a user). -mel
[2004-07-30 14:08:23] - pierce: user interface is definitely important. Learning curve doesn't matter so much, since we don't seem to be in a particular rush. But tehre seem to have been a lot of user problems with the command line interface we had before. so I think we want to improve to something more graphical. -mel
[2004-07-30 14:06:44] - Paul: it's not that that was an invalid usage... I understood what you meant. But the expression is an oxymoron nonetheless. - pierce
[2004-07-30 14:06:06] - mel: I usually have better user interface experiences with QT than GTK even now, if that's a priority. If you're more concerned about ease of development/learning curve, I don't know which is better. - pierce
[2004-07-30 14:06:04] - a: I was reading the glut documentation. You're right, just open gl is probably not what I want. -mel
[2004-07-30 14:05:34] - Pierce: I can see how it could be thought of as a contradiction, but I think the phrase still works. -Paul
[2004-07-30 14:05:26] - a: as far as I know, just 2d. -mel
[2004-07-30 14:04:58] - mel: I wouldn't take my GTK experience to heart. It was senior year in high school, now that I think about it. I'm sure it's progressed a great deal since then. - pierce
[2004-07-30 14:04:42] - pierce: some type of compatibility with C and Fortran. I'll look at SWT too. I want to find out about what's out there before I charge into development with any particular gui tool. -mel
[2004-07-30 14:03:48] - or both. ~a
[2004-07-30 14:03:19] - mel: glut and glaux only do opengl, which is not what you want (probably). are you doing gui programming (2d), or are you doing 3d graphics? ~a
[2004-07-30 14:03:14] - mel: is it an opengl application? - pierce
[2004-07-30 14:02:08] - a: yup, I just saw that too. ok, I'll find out about glut instead. -mel
[2004-07-30 14:01:58] - mel: are there language restrictions? I've heard good things about java with SWT for user interface development. - pierce
[2004-07-30 14:01:52] - pierce: they were for opengl only which is not what you want. you want something that supports opengl as an option (like fltk
) ~a[2004-07-30 14:01:29] - a: thanks, I'll check it out. -mel
[2004-07-30 14:01:04] - - pierce
[2004-07-30 14:01:02] - Paul: you don't?
[2004-07-30 14:00:49] - a: do glut and glaux provide significantly more functionality now than they did in high school? Because back then it seemed like (from a user interface standpoint) they were a cruddy hack. - pierce
[2004-07-30 14:00:45] - their page seems down
~a[2004-07-30 14:00:27] - Pierce: You think the phrase "strangely normal" is a contradiction? -Paul
[2004-07-30 14:00:22] - fast light toolkit. http://www.fltk.org/ ~a
[2004-07-30 13:59:19] - a: what is fltk? -mel
[2004-07-30 13:58:49] - pierce: haha. beautiful comma usage, definitely. -mel
[2004-07-30 13:58:36] - i've never used either. i prefer fltk over wx or glut/glaux. ~a
[2004-07-30 13:58:12] - pierce: cool. do you remember what you didn't like about gtk? I haven't used eaither yet but I'm going to download one of them and start playing with it. I have a windows box but I'm running vmware with a redhat virtual machine.
-mel[2004-07-30 13:58:07] - I, for one, think I used my commas far, far more awkwardly than I, or anyone else, should have, in that last post, don't you agree? - pierce
[2004-07-30 13:56:49] - mel: although, I think you actually can compile qt in windows, through cygwin, but it's not fully supported and it makes it perform a lot worse. - pierce
[2004-07-30 13:54:36] - "strangely normal"? Paul, you [oxy]moron.
- pierce[2004-07-30 13:53:06] - Mel: That's ok, I find that most girls dislike most other girls for no particular logical reason, so it's strangely normal. -Paul
[2004-07-30 13:53:04] - I've used GTK a bit and hated it (though it was admittedly several years ago). I usually hear that QT is better, but that the license terms don't allow you to compile it for Windows. - pierce
[2004-07-30 13:51:48] - Mel: I definitely think you'd like Buffy. Do you use netflix? - pierce
[2004-07-30 13:51:05] - all: hey have you guys used Qt or GTK? Which do you prefer? -mel
[2004-07-30 13:49:15] - Paul: you know, I think I might like Buffy. I used to dislike Sarah Michelle Gellar. Not for any particularly logical reason. -mel
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