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[2001-02-20 11:39:00] - i'm fine with win2k i don't need another upgrade for awhile - mig

[2001-02-20 11:38:00] -

[2001-02-20 11:38:00] - Sounds like a horrible mix of Win2K and win me -Paul

[2001-02-20 11:38:00] - "Windows XP, built on the dependable Windows engine"  don't make me laugh - mig

[2001-02-20 11:37:00] - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/

[2001-02-20 11:35:00] - Hey, you and Miguel brought it up :-) -paul

[2001-02-20 11:35:00] - http://conversatron.com/convers.py?topic=29750

[2001-02-20 11:34:00] - yuck.

[2001-02-20 11:33:00] - ANimal porn is easy to find, you can always find a stray cat wandering around -Paul

[2001-02-20 11:33:00] - http://conversatron.com/convers.py?topic=29700

[2001-02-20 11:32:00] - http://truemeaningoflife.com/

[2001-02-20 11:32:00] - to = 2

[2001-02-20 11:32:00] - :P

[2001-02-20 11:32:00] - tmol? -Paul

[2001-02-20 11:32:00] - i bet you like make animal porn in your spare time  -  aba

[2001-02-20 11:31:00] -

[2001-02-20 11:31:00] - apparently the wanted to pieces of data to be put in their own class.  i didn't think it was that necessary but they apparently did . - mig

[2001-02-20 11:31:00] - and where do you come up with things like that paul?  -  aba

[2001-02-20 11:30:00] - *conversatron

[2001-02-20 11:30:00] - coversatron > tmol  -  aba

[2001-02-20 11:30:00] - that is so gross

[2001-02-20 11:30:00] - I suck at CS, what does encapsulate mean again? -Paul

[2001-02-20 11:30:00] - ewwwwwwwwwwww

[2001-02-20 11:30:00] - http://conversatron.com/convers.py?topic=29689

[2001-02-20 11:30:00] - You get a lot of them and glue em together in the shape of a donut. They're naturally lubricated too -Paul

[2001-02-20 11:30:00] - i didn't "encapsulate" 2 linked lists that were defined in my main func - mig

[2001-02-20 11:29:00] - worms move.  how exactly would that work?  -  aba

[2001-02-20 11:29:00] - You said you lost 20 points out of 100 on the program? -paul

[2001-02-20 11:28:00] - http://conversatron.com/convers.py?topic=29681    hahahahaha.  electric jesus.

[2001-02-20 11:28:00] - "Anything that moves" :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 11:28:00] - so i'm really pissed at him - mig

[2001-02-20 11:27:00] - he was insanely anal on our first project. - mg

[2001-02-20 11:27:00] - i can't imagine fucking pigs being very fun or comfortable.  but then again i'm not a guy.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 11:26:00] - why is keller a pig-fucker?  -  aba

[2001-02-20 11:25:00] - Really? That must make for an interesting family -Paul

[2001-02-20 11:24:00] - Did I say dead body? I meant totally still alive but willing to be #2 body -paul

[2001-02-20 11:24:00] - keller is a pig-fucker - mig

[2001-02-20 11:23:00] - that can be arranged - mig

[2001-02-20 11:22:00] - You can be #1 over my dead body! -Paul

[2001-02-20 11:22:00] - my bar needs to be fatter - mig

[2001-02-20 11:21:00] - i need blood - mig

[2001-02-20 11:21:00] - no, i don't hate you paul.  i just want to be number one.  :-*  -  aba

[2001-02-20 11:20:00] - http://www.geocities.com/vihaopham/fr17.jpg

[2001-02-20 11:19:00] - Maybe i should stop hanging out with you guys since you are all paul-gynists :-( -paul

[2001-02-20 11:18:00] - Hey, I am monitoring this thing... No killing of me while I am King -Paul

[2001-02-20 11:17:00] - :P

[2001-02-20 11:17:00] - then i will be the undisputed ruler of the board!  -  aba

[2001-02-20 11:16:00] - i think i need to kill paul.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 11:16:00] - yeah, it was sucky.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 09:10:00] - anyone notice the i-net connection has gone down? - mig

[2001-02-20 08:05:00] - Wow, after last night's frenzy. I'm in third.  Yeah. Let's see if this lasts through my long bloc of classes. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 07:32:00] - to not co-op  ~a

[2001-02-20 07:20:00] - job fair today! to co-op or to not co-op, that is the question -dave

[2001-02-20 01:15:00] - Haha, that's funny "I pity the fool who doesn't dial 1-800-collect!" :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 01:14:00] - i just saw! - mig

[2001-02-20 01:14:00] - Really? :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 01:13:00] - NOOOO!!!! Mr. t is doing 1-800-collect commercials! - mig

[2001-02-20 00:54:00] - Sounds good to me -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:54:00] - after commenting this program, that is - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:53:00] - actually, it's something I'd like to read more about, so I think I'll try to find some stuff on the web - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:52:00] - Actually, I don't care too much about whether Britain helped India or not, so I am willing to concede the point for now -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:51:00] - Same here :-) Goodnight Adrian -paul

[2001-02-20 00:50:00] - oots = roots :) - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:50:00] - India is a lot better off then it was before the british in terms of economy and stuff I think -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:50:00] - whether this oots back to the british days or not though is probably debatable. i'm not knowledged enough on the subject to argue - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:50:00] - i guess i'll make the third a to say good bye to  ~a

[2001-02-20 00:49:00] - india's not in the best of shape now though, paul. i'm not exatcly sure if they did help - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:48:00] - Goodnight Aparna and Andrew -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:48:00] - good night a and a - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:48:00] - goodnight everybody  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:48:00] - i'm gonna go to bed too

[2001-02-20 00:48:00] - I think Britain did a lot to help India, but they also messed around with it's culture -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:47:00] - fuck.  can't type.  :\  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:47:00] - *andrew

[2001-02-20 00:47:00] - goodnight adnrew

[2001-02-20 00:47:00] - ha.  the improved standard of living applies to such a small segment of the indian population.  there are so many people now who are very badly off in comparison to the middle class.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:46:00] - God, when did it get to be 1AM.  Bedtime for this forensics expert. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:46:00] - fuck no.  they were doing fine before the damn british had to come and fuck around with our culture.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:45:00] - It's a trade off. Britain "civilized" other countries by taking away their cultural identity but also improving their standard of living -paul

[2001-02-20 00:45:00] - the brits set up the indian culture to feed them with natural resources.  india was left with some industry, but nothing that can deal with supply for the whole country.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:45:00] - pass = past - mig

[2001-02-20 00:45:00] - They could barely support themselves before.  Culture doesn't help everyone.  It only helps those who help themselves. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:45:00] - the point is, that brits aren't oppressing people anymore.  it's in the pass.  nobody is ripping on germany, who has a worse track record btw, because it's in the past and it doesn't matter anymore - mig

[2001-02-20 00:44:00] - That's what I said.  Just so happens the two go hand in hand.  As often happens in the real world.  Good follows bad, and vice versa. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:44:00] - what good is technology to the indians when they can barely support themselves?  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:44:00] - exposure to other cultures is good, oppression is bad - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:43:00] - Really, back to the days of the Mughal emperors and the wonderful religious battles, the lack of technology, I think not. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:43:00] - they still can't deal with all the changes that the british imposed.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:43:00] - britain really messed india up royally.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:43:00] - New journal is posted, btw -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:43:00] - i think you'd find a lot of them who would.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:42:00] - They also served as the culture-bearers for most of the world.  That had some negative aspects attached, such as the oppression, but I think you'll be hard put to find a single Indian who -really- wants to go back to pre-Brit days. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:42:00] - i agree, and I'm glad they've returned control of most of their (all of their?) seized countries - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:42:00] - Britain actually has a better track record in terms of bad things then a lot of other countries -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:41:00] - yesyes

[2001-02-20 00:41:00] - yeah, i guess they did ruin the rest of the world.  but they're not doing it anymore - mig

[2001-02-20 00:41:00] - i assume that's what whoever made the comment was referring to - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:41:00] - Can someone translate that, I don't speak spainish.. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:40:00] - Who hates the British now? -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:40:00] - the brits, while having a multitude of good bands, have also served as oppressors for most of the world at some time - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:40:00] - Radiohead has a few good songs, but their politics suck. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:40:00] - *they

[2001-02-20 00:40:00] - the ruined the rest of the world.

[2001-02-20 00:39:00] - http://conversatron.com/convers.py?topic=29480    haha!

[2001-02-20 00:39:00] - How so? -paul

[2001-02-20 00:39:00] - but they given us radiohead and the beatles - mig

[2001-02-20 00:39:00] - yeah, I was wondering what just happened - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:39:00] - the brits suck big dick

[2001-02-20 00:38:00] - it is dangerous work editing code as people are using it  ~a

[2001-02-20 00:38:00] - :'(  ~a

[2001-02-20 00:38:00] - It is difficult to hate someone you don't personally know. That is why I cannot be a misogynist -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:37:00] - hate is bad

[2001-02-20 00:36:00] - There are a few select individuals I don't hate.  I think a large percentage of them are reading this message board. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:36:00] - D'oh -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:36:00] - Reparations: Bad idea. QED <i>-Paul</i.

[2001-02-20 00:36:00] - i want spain to pay reparation for my decendant's oppresion in south america. - mig

[2001-02-20 00:36:00] - Conversation has died :-( -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:36:00] - http://www.findarticles.com/m1355/23_97/62298398/p1/article.jhtml

[2001-02-20 00:34:00] - i see - mig

[2001-02-20 00:33:00] - me too  ~a

[2001-02-20 00:33:00] - You have fallen from grace Miguel :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:33:00] - what's going on?  i'm confused - mig

[2001-02-20 00:33:00] - damn it.  that news slut comment was me.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:32:00] - ha

[2001-02-20 00:32:00] - Me neither, there are at least 4 females that I don't hate -paul

[2001-02-20 00:32:00] - i'm a news slut

[2001-02-20 00:32:00] - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010213/od/australia_dc_1.html

[2001-02-20 00:31:00] - We like making fun of andrew and his weird beliefs :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:31:00] - i personally have no idea what you are talking about aparna and do not dislike you or females in general - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:31:00] - I'm sorry, it's such an interesting thing to debate though -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:31:00] - i was joking about not being liked, but i guess you were serious.  :\  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:30:00] -

[2001-02-20 00:30:00] - No, this entry will be on Ars Magica. -- Xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:30:00] - that may come up more when the environment really starts to be hit hard - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:30:00] - i think i really should stop hanging out with you guys  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:30:00] - I think it is wrong, and it hurts their cause -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:30:00] - ugh.  they're talking about repaying every single black with a reparation check for slavery.  what kind of fucked of shit is that? - mig

[2001-02-20 00:30:00] - on a slightly different topic, have people heard about the extinct species they are trying to resurrect? my k&r teacher talked briefly about it - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:30:00] - *cry*  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:29:00] - Make another entry about how you hate females :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:29:00] - "better" is a subjective measure - aba

[2001-02-20 00:29:00] - Way to go Andrew! :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:29:00] - I think what they are doing is worse then nothing at all -paul

[2001-02-20 00:28:00] - Doing nothing certainly is better than what they're doing. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:28:00] - Multi-var is done, so I'll be heading to bed soon... may make another journal entry first, though. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:28:00] - thank you paul :) - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:28:00] - i said before that i am not justifying the elf's actions as the best.  i just think that what they are doing is better than nothing at all.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:27:00] - Wow, silence falls after the mad period of typing. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:27:00] - ha

[2001-02-20 00:27:00] - Opposite of left. -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:26:00] - no  ~a

[2001-02-20 00:26:00] - whoa.  where'd dave come from?  i think adrian adjusted stuff again.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:26:00] -

[2001-02-20 00:26:00] - But elf is still using harm to ammend for harm, that's pointless.  Realize this, please. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:26:00] - that may be, but don't act as if it's no big deal what they do - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:26:00] - define right - aba

[2001-02-20 00:25:00] - That might be true, but it doesn't make it right -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:25:00] - the damage they cause to the environment costs more money to fix than anything the elf has done so far.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:25:00] - I sympathize with the environment, but ELF is going about it entirely the wrong way, I don't even think they are helping at all -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:25:00] - the companies that are targeted cause more harm than the elf does.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:24:00] - blarg!

[2001-02-20 00:24:00] - Alanis Morissette on SNL! -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:24:00] - that's a poor justification, aparna. people are still being morally harmed - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:24:00] - I am most certainly not being opressed by industry and I resent them claiming their actions are for me -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:23:00] - If they're insured it's even worse because they're spreading that burden across millions of innocent people who are also insured, and who likely never built ski lodges through native lands. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:23:00] - It's not that simple, insurance companies raise their premiums then and everyone feels it.. -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:23:00] - we are  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:23:00] - all the people that they target are insured.  they always recover their losses.  it's just a huge hassle.  it makes a statement.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:22:00] - Who is being oppresed? The environment? -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:22:00] - Indeed I have, and I have actually leaned more away from the environment because of it actually -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:22:00] - no, it's about people being oppressed by tyrannical industries.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:21:00] - this is not about people being oppressed by a tyrinical government - mig

[2001-02-20 00:21:00] - Legality has nothing to do with stuff being right, look at drugs... -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:21:00] - i am sure that you have thought about their cause a lot more since you heard about the speaker than before.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:21:00] - you're totally right. they are morally reprehensible for what they do and I assume are willing to face the consequences - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:21:00] - If you take my calculator and ruthlessly destroy it because I'm hurting the environment for some reason, you have impared my ability to do math, and hence have hurt me.  Financial destruction is similar to physical violence to a person. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:21:00] - Thanks adrian :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:21:00] - War is never legal, doesn't mean it isn't right -paul

[2001-02-20 00:21:00] - i fixed $ problem  ~a

[2001-02-20 00:20:00] - I dunno, I think their actions have made me close my mind to their thoughts and opinions -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:20:00] - why not?  the revolutionary war sure wasn't legal when it occurred.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:20:00] - Property destruction is not the way to make a point -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:19:00] - how are they hurting people?  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:19:00] - and kudos to them for actually making all of us open up our minds to their cause.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:19:00] - And their response is to hurt still more people? That's simply illogical. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:19:00] - Which is all good, but when your opinions require blowing stuff up that doesn't belong to you, that crosses the line -paul

[2001-02-20 00:19:00] - that's true.  but your opinions don't give you the right to commit violence. - mig

[2001-02-20 00:19:00] - indirectly, in this case - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:19:00] - well, they're mostly doing it to make a point.  they're trying to say that they won't take this bullshit quietly.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:19:00] - i'm just saying they believe that people are being hurt - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:18:00] - i'm not saying it's right at all, everyone has their own opinions - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:17:00] - I could go burn down Owens and say I was saving you from the styrofoam they pollute the environment with, does that make it right? -paul

[2001-02-20 00:16:00] - I like to make that decision for myself thank you very much -paul

[2001-02-20 00:16:00] - elf is arguing though that they are hurting us through losing the environment - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:15:00] - The ski resort was already built, what good did burning it down do? Did it restore the trees and homes to the little wood-land creatures? No! It was pointless violence. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:15:00] - the point is that the logging companies that they target have usually logged in one area as much as they can and then are moving to places with laxer laws (ie south america).  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:15:00] - Celebrity Jeopardy on comedy central! -paul

[2001-02-20 00:15:00] - yes.  in all of their activities, not one person has ever been hurt.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:15:00] - And that's productive how? Logging companies are good for the environment so long as they don't strip clear, which they're not allowed to do anymore.  Laws laws laws. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:14:00] - When you hurt someone who has done nothing to you, I think that is wrong -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:14:00] - a ski resort that was building new trails through the habitats of many native species.  they were killing of whole sections of the surrounding mountain.  :\  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:14:00] - have they gone out of their way to make sure no one gets hurt?  if they make at least that effort, then it might be ok i my book - mig

[2001-02-20 00:14:00] - no, it depends on what gets accomplished in the end - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:14:00] - Think about what you are saying: us agree? :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:14:00] - They also like burning secluded houses -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:13:00] - i dunno about that.  i am sure there are a lot of things that we can agree on as the basis of an ideal government.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:13:00] - $ 12,000,000 damage caused when they burned down a ski resort -paul

[2001-02-20 00:13:00] - who's to say what a bad action is?  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:13:00] - Our ideas of ideal governments are very different though -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:13:00] - basically the elf goes around to things like logging companies and blows up their equipment etc.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:12:00] - No action is argueably better then bad action -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:12:00] - sure there is.  the ideal of one exists at the very least.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:12:00] - Damn, can't post now :-) -paul

[2001-02-20 00:12:00] - i dunno, what kind of bombs were they using? - mig

[2001-02-20 00:12:00] - So am I, I'm doing my best to reduce the goverment for them, by not giving a damn. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:12:00] - They like burning stuff... -paul

[2001-02-20 00:12:00] - jinx, paul. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:11:00] - i am not saying that what they are doing is totally right, but at least they are taking action.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:11:00] - There is no perfect goverment, no more than there is a perfect universe. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:11:00] - So a perfect government can solve all our problems eh? Can a perfect government ever exist? The answer is 'no' -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:11:00] - what kind of damage to the elf people do to the environment, out of curiousity? - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:10:00] - yeah, i agree that there is probably too much red tape to use peaceful means, but in the end, they may be destroying what they wish to save - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:10:00] - it can.  but we don't really have the perfect government now, do we?  ;)  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:09:00] - Can't government solve all our problems though? -paul

[2001-02-20 00:09:00] - You know what solves that? 1) don't go to the gov'ment to solve your problems 2) eliminate the red tape in the gov'ment. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:09:00] - I guess I fail to see how blowing stuff up and burning stuff helps the environment... -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:08:00] - but there's so much red tape in the government that by the time you get anyone to act through peaceful means, it's basically too late.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:08:00] - many times peaceful methods don't work  ~a

[2001-02-20 00:07:00] - laughing at paul's dollar problems - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:07:00] - And depending on the bombs they're using they could be damaging the environment even more.  Hell, Cows are the wosrst polutants of all, they release more methane per year than any other sources of ozone damaging gas. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:07:00] - Perhaps go about this using peaceful methods? -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:07:00] - ha ha ha - vinnie

[2001-02-20 00:07:00] - $ 12,000,000 -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:07:00] - what else should we do?  ~a

[2001-02-20 00:06:00] - Ack!

[2001-02-20 00:06:00] - Exactly how does causing $12,000,000 worth of damage in arson help people? -paul

[2001-02-20 00:06:00] - By stopping research into cloning and genetic engineering? Or by blowing stuff up and defacing property? -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:06:00] - yes, and i agree.  but going around bombing things isn't going to help the current situation - mig

[2001-02-20 00:05:00] - and a lot of that fucking up could be prevented.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:05:00] - i think that we are seriously fucking up our environment in a lot of ways.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:04:00] - Nah, they probably want to waste gov'ment money on funding for a cure to mad cow's disease -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:04:00] - >:o

[2001-02-20 00:03:00] - Thank god we didn't engineer animals without the disease, then it might have gone extinct! :-) -paul

[2001-02-20 00:03:00] - Is this what ELF is fighting for? Natural sheep so we can be blessed with mad cow disease? -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:02:00] - that is another reason for me not to eat meat.  -  aba

[2001-02-20 00:02:00] - I like my women to be just the way they are :-) -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:02:00] - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010215/sc/vermont_sheep_dc_1.html

[2001-02-20 00:01:00] - I like my women taller, bustier, and wider in the hips and waist. -- xpovos

[2001-02-20 00:01:00] - Lucky for us we have the government to protect us -Paul

[2001-02-20 00:01:00] - Tomatoes are poisonous. -- xpovos

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