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[2005-07-20 11:46:38] - paul: that is true but people who are pre-disposed to oppose him will probably not see it that way .) -amy

[2005-07-20 11:45:43] - amy: Well, from everything I've read, it sounds like he doesn't have a well-defined stance on a lot of issues and stuff like abortion he was representing a client who was opposed to Roe v Wade and so it's his responsibility to represent his client's interests. -Paul

[2005-07-20 11:43:10] - Paul: I thought he was anti-environment, pro-corporations, anti-abortion, etc. Also has little experience as a judge (appointed in 2003?) -amy

[2005-07-20 11:38:55] - It looks like Bush did a good job of picking somebody that it will be hard for the democrats to attack. -Paul

[2005-07-20 11:38:34] - amy: I think I pretty much agree, although I was a bit surprised he nominated a white male. I also think that the anti-Bush people who will be pissed off at Roberts will mostly be pissed off because he was nominated by Bush and not necessarily because of the man himself. -Paul

[2005-07-20 11:35:51] - anyway that is my simple understanding of the situation; i don't usually pay that much attn to politics but i'm trying to learn -amy

[2005-07-20 11:34:39] - oops. he seems to share a lot of views with bush (afaik) and will probably piss off the anti-bush people. but why wouldn't bush nominate somebody conservative like himself? -amy

[2005-07-20 11:33:44] - amy: oh, just that he seems to share a lot of views with bush af

[2005-07-20 11:33:08] - OH! Crap. I just re-read it and realized that I misunderstood the sentence. Nevermind. :-P -Paul

[2005-07-20 11:32:32] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/19/AR2005071901868.html "At hearings in May, the Kansas Board of Education, which has a conservative majority, supported teaching alternatives to evolution, a theory accepted by the vast majority of the scientific establishment." Is that true? -Paul

[2005-07-20 11:16:46] - Amy: Why are you not surprised? -Paul

[2005-07-20 11:13:58] - Paul: No strong opinion, but I'm not particularly surprised -amy

[2005-07-20 10:50:16] - So, does anybody have any opinions on John G. Roberts Jr's nomination to the Supreme Court? -Paul

[2005-07-20 10:40:33] - a: I want driving directions to the mon - aaron

[2005-07-20 10:23:57] - a: lol! -amy

[2005-07-20 10:19:06] - ok . . . why is it that when you zoom in (all the way) on moon.google, it shows cheese?  :-P  ~a

[2005-07-20 09:51:26] - Aaron: It's so great! I actually like the first Shatner the most, although the third one is pretty groovy in his own right. -Paul

[2005-07-20 08:23:05] - paul: the third shatner is even worse! aaaaaa - aaron

[2005-07-20 08:21:06] - paul: OUCH! that is so painful to watch! he's like overacting every word - in a song with like 200 of them! At least on star trek they kept his lines short - aaron

[2005-07-19 17:46:48] - aaron:  maybe not  ~a

[2005-07-19 17:33:00] - http://www.milkandcookies.com/links/21099/ William Shatner does Rocketman. This is where that Family Guy joke with Stewie came from. -Paul

[2005-07-19 17:21:30] - i.e "i haven't used that printer in a long time, its toner was low last time i used it" - aaron

[2005-07-19 17:21:01] - a: I've never made "that" possessive in my whole life - can you use it in a sentence? It seems like "its" would usually be more appropriate - aaron

[2005-07-19 17:00:41] - amy:  yeah!  and i hate it not only for its misuse, but for its correct usage too.  ~a

[2005-07-19 16:59:27] - a: i got it .) interesting article, too. i still hate that phrase though. -amy

[2005-07-19 16:05:51] - assert( (~a).hates(english) )

[2005-07-19 16:00:12] - I hate English. -Paul

[2005-07-19 15:46:19] - amy_the_grammar_nazi:  i was just trying to poke fun at the phrase which i referenced in my next post "the exception that proves the rule" but i was basically saying that "its" is possessive (which breaks the rule that possessives should have one of those apostrophe things).  ~a

[2005-07-19 15:43:12] - paul:  people don't make "that" possesive very often.  but when they do, they probably just ambiguously use "that's" (ambiguous because it conflicts with "that is")  ~a

[2005-07-19 15:40:12] - a: Is that the proper thing to do? -Paul

[2005-07-19 15:35:42] - when adrian makes "that" possesive, he says "thats".  ~a

[2005-07-19 14:41:24] - paul: yeah it seems like an exception, though i don't know about it proving anything .) -amy

[2005-07-19 14:36:53] - amy_the_grammar_nazi: That's interesting. I guess it's an exception to the rule (like Adrian implied)? -Paul

[2005-07-19 14:33:16] - Paul: "Its" is possessive. "It's" can only mean "it is." -amy_the_grammar_nazi

[2005-07-19 13:13:19] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/18/AR2005071801467.html At Comic-Con, Nerd Mentality Rules the Day. Hollywood Now Woos Once-Scorned Genre Fans. -Paul

[2005-07-19 13:05:53] - I think Bush was already moderately popular in India so it likely won't help him much there either. -Paul

[2005-07-19 13:05:14] - Aaron: I agree that it seems unlike Bush but I don't know if it will make him more popular in the world or not. It could be seen as helping to spread nuclear weapons. -Paul

[2005-07-19 13:01:52] - a: So it IS supposed to be "its" in that case even though it seems like it should be possessive? -Paul

[2005-07-19 12:58:31] - paul: At least, to me, it really doesn't sound like the bush I knew - aaron

[2005-07-19 12:58:08] - paul: That kind of action sounds like it could strongly influence the american/world opinion of bush (for the better) - aaron

[2005-07-19 12:19:19] - i hate this phrase and it plagues me.  i've had disagreements with like eight people about it.  ~a

[2005-07-19 11:31:13] - paul:  yep.  its is an exception that disproves the rule.  ~a

[2005-07-19 11:15:21] - it's = its? -Paul

[2005-07-19 10:00:09] - "The agreement does not formally recognize India as a nuclear power" I understand that it's a semantical thing but that just sounds silly. I'm envisioning the U.S. with it's eyes closed and fingers in it's ears saying "You're not a nuclear power". -Paul

[2005-07-19 09:58:53] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/18/AR2005071801646.html U.S., India May Share Nuclear Technology -Paul

[2005-07-19 09:44:14] - http://pc.ign.com/articles/634/634535p1.html EA Picks Up Half-Life 2 -Paul

[2005-07-18 14:25:43] - i don't think longhorn will cause the end of mankind.  i do, however think since xp, people have started to move FROM the mentality that ms is the only os maker in town.  ~a

[2005-07-18 11:04:48] - a: That's pretty much the reason I am also taking it with a huge grain of salt. Every time a new version of Windows comes out the whole anti-MS crowd dreams up all these reasons why it will cause the end of mankind. -Paul

[2005-07-18 11:04:06] - a: It might never come right out and say it's going to be a major problem but the tone of the article is unmistakable to me. The author definitely thinks this is a big problem IMHO. -Paul

[2005-07-18 10:56:57] - i'm taking it all with a grain of salt because i remember all of the "major" problems that there was going to be with XP that didn't really pan out to be a problem at all (that said, i don't run xp  . . .  but not because of its policies).  ~a

[2005-07-18 10:55:09] - paul:  the article doesn't make a prediction either way (that it will or won't be a major problem).  you're the only one making predictions.  ~a

[2005-07-18 10:52:57] - a: Of course it doesn't. But just because the article says something doesn't make it true either. I've read a bunch of doom and gloom predictions from internet articles about things that never pan out and this just sounds like another one of those things to me. -Paul

[2005-07-18 10:51:08] - paul:  just because you say it doesn't make it true.  ~a

[2005-07-18 10:41:28] - FYI - my email has once again decided that functioning is an optional thing and short of going to the college and complaining, I may not be able to get it up and running again.  I'll let you know (should you care) as soon as I do the new way to reach me.  - lori

[2005-07-18 10:25:12] - Vinnie: Obviously I only have the barest understanding of what the article is talking about, but it just seems to me that this is one of those things that only the real videophiles are going to notice. -Paul

[2005-07-18 09:41:40] - paul: if it's anything like the fuzziness that happens when you try to copy video tapes or send DVD signals through a VCR, it's basically unwatchable. also I watch DVDs on my computer - vinnie

[2005-07-18 09:37:14] - pierce: did you ever get that issue with the water bill resolved? or are we just gonna get charged twice? :) - vinnie

[2005-07-17 21:36:16] - SUNDAY

[2005-07-15 16:50:04] - Of course, I assume that creating a device which takes DVI as an input, indicates to the system that it has HDCP, and then passes through the video data without protections would be illegal to make/distribute/buy/use. - pierce

[2005-07-15 16:45:33] - aaron: he managed to get something with the word "dynamite" on it onto an airplane?!  I call terrorist shenanigans. :-P - pierce

[2005-07-15 16:44:32] - what I don't understand is why the resolution of an already-existing product is being considered a product in and of itself.  I know this is just an extension of the discussions we've had before about having to rebuy movies with every new medium, but at least the obvious one - VHS to DVD - came with the addition of special features. - pierce

[2005-07-15 16:38:13] - paul: On my flight to seattle the guy to my right was watching Napoleon Dynamite on his laptop. - aaron

[2005-07-15 16:28:33] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050715-5101.html Promotional firefox community site hacked. -Paul

[2005-07-15 15:41:11] - a: Don't bring blu-ray Babylon 5 DVDs into this, you're just trying to make me mad by association. :-P -Paul

[2005-07-15 15:32:03] - but if you're watching your newly bought bab5 bluerays and the quality of your image is lower than your old bab5 dvds, how happy are you going to be?  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:31:10] - of course it depends on what the downsampled resolution is.  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:26:47] - paul:  that sounds pretty horrible to me.  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:26:36] - "If you’re “lucky”, the content will go through a resolution constrictor. The purpose of this constrictor is to down-sample high-resolution content to below a certain number of pixels. The newly down-sampled content is then blown back up to match the resolution of your monitor. This is much like when you shrink a JPEG and then zoom into it. Much of the clarity is lost."  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:24:16] - paul:  yes they do.  and i'm not just taking huntsville (a fairly technical town) into account.  i'm taking flights to iowa, denver, and lax into account too.  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:23:08] - right.  who knows if "fuzzyness" will be visable or not.  if the fuzzyness of REGULAR video wasn't visable, then content providers wouldn't be pushing for higher quality video!  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:21:19] - a: People watch DVDs on their computers on airplanes? I'm not doubting you, I just didn't think it would be all that common... -Paul

[2005-07-15 15:20:24] - a: I think most people don't watch DVDs on their computers and I also think that most people wouldn't notice the "fuzzy" picture that the article talks about. The article makes it sound like Longhorn is going to make your monitor not work at all when in reality it will probably just make some types of activities look a little worse. -Paul

[2005-07-15 15:20:09] - like when i'm on an airplane, and people sitting around me are watching dvds, only one or two of them have dvd players that aren't computers.  yes yes, i know that an airplane isn't a random sample of the world, but at the same time: very few of the people sitting around me were techies.  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:14:29] - paul:  watching dvds on your computer?  people do that.  i do that and i know a few people at my company that do that.  i've met people in alabama that watch dvds on their computers too.  also, people watch live videos on their computers too, right.  isn't that pretty much the only way to watch live media on your computer?  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:08:07] - a: Unless I'm misunderstanding, that article is only an issue for people who wish to view television signals, DVDs or other types of similar media on their computer. Not that I'm saying that what it's doing is a good thing, but it sounds like that won't be an issue for most people. -Paul

[2005-07-15 15:02:59] - what i don't understand is who the heck would possibly WANT OPM.  it provides nothing to content providers unless all major operating systems support it.  it provides nothing to microsoft unless it's getting kickbacks from the content providers.  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:02:26] - beware buying a monitor if you want to ever run longhorn: http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000143050582/ .  so either buy an apple, don't install longhorn, or hope it's easily crackable.  ~a

[2005-07-15 15:00:12] - paul: i think we (+ vinnie's parents) will be able to manage all of my things since we managed all of vinnie's. thanks for the offer though ^_^ -amy

[2005-07-15 14:52:48] - Vinnie: Ok, well, the offer extends to Amy as well. -Paul

[2005-07-15 14:47:41] - thanks for the offer, guys, but my moving is done. I'm eating dinner with my parents today and then we're gonna try to move amy, weather permitting - vinnie

[2005-07-15 13:39:21] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/050715 A very odd Harry Potter story written by the ESPN folks. -Paul

[2005-07-15 13:38:55] - vinnie: you're moving today?  I second the help offer. - pierce

[2005-07-15 13:34:33] - Vinnie: How is the moving going? Need any help? -Paul

[2005-07-15 13:28:32] - Pierce: There is no excuse for Vinnie to not be able to answer your question. Unacceptable behavior on his part. -Paul

[2005-07-15 13:24:56] - paul: nice of you to take my side with respect to vinnie's failure to answer my javascript question. :) - pierce

[2005-07-15 10:59:57] - http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/mediahassan WWE airs controversial Arab-American themed segment on same day as London bombings. -Paul

[2005-07-15 10:34:36] - *** Paul shakes fist at Vinnie in furious anger

[2005-07-15 10:27:53] - basketball_geeks: skipping again. I am a lameoid - vinnie

[2005-07-15 10:27:12] - pierce: suxor. sorry - vinnie

[2005-07-15 10:20:02] - vinnie: yeah.  I tried every permutation I could think of of document.close(), document.clear() (just in case), document.open(), and document.write() (with both an empty string, as in the example, and with the contents of the new page I'm creating).  No dice. - pierce

[2005-07-15 09:13:23] - pierce: I thought you needed a document.open too, in their workaround, before the document.write. did you try that? - vinnie

[2005-07-14 15:34:35] - aaron: agreed. i like your idea too. we should build this keyboard! -amy

[2005-07-14 15:17:41] - a: Even cooler is (i think) that programs like Excel could react to someone pressing "control", and then replace all of the key representations with textual representations of the shortcuts attainable via the control key (i.e x = cut, g = goto) - aaron

[2005-07-14 15:16:47] - a: Come on that would be an awesome keyboard! Imagine switching to dvorak, and having all the keys actually change the letter they're showing. Your friends could even gradually learn dvorak on your keyboard that way, and then switch to qwerty if they had to type something longer - aaron

[2005-07-14 15:09:17] - waaay off topic, anyone here a javascript person?  IE doesn't seem to support document.clear(), but the workaround they mention doesn't seem to clear the document either.  How do you clear a document without playing with window.location? - pierce

[2005-07-14 15:07:09] - basically, the same as what they have but without changing the main keyboard around.  that would make it so that people wouldn't start relying on hunt-and-peck for the bulk of their typing, but would still give the benefit of customizeability. - pierce

[2005-07-14 15:05:55] - I'd love to see a version of that keyboard that was normal (or blank) for the main part of the keyboard, but had a side keypad with the led screens. Then the side keypad could be configured to have a programming context (making parens, braces, angle brackets, and other symbols one-touch) or a word processing context (essentially a toolbar) - pierce

[2005-07-14 14:50:42] - a: i believe i have seen keyboards where you can flip a switch for dvorak/qwerty and it also changes the display of the keys somehow. or did i just make that up? i swear it exists, though. that would be pretty sweet. -amy

[2005-07-14 14:49:51] - *** amy remembers to sign her name. 0.)

[2005-07-14 14:49:13] - /me drools on the expensive keyboard. oops.

[2005-07-14 14:46:50] - a: Yeah, I really only look at my keyboard when I get disoriented somehow and just need to get my fingers oriented again. When that happens, it's actually probably easier if I just have a normal keyboard layout in front of me since that's what I'm used to. -Paul

[2005-07-14 14:32:52] - paul:  good point!  i remember looking at a keyboard that specifically had *nothing* on the keys.  ~a

[2005-07-14 14:06:51] - a: That's an awesome keyboard. At first I thought it would be really cool to have, but then I wondered how often I find myself looking at my keyboard. -Paul

[2005-07-14 14:04:28] - http://www.nailbiter.net/gman/ A Half-Life 2 adaptation of a scene from the movie A Few Good Men. -Paul

[2005-07-14 14:01:52] - cool keyboard has an led screen on every key  ~a

[2005-07-14 10:06:15] - aaron: me, though I can't be there until 6:15ish - lori

[2005-07-14 09:49:25] - a: 5:45? - aaron

[2005-07-14 09:47:27] - what time?  ~a

[2005-07-14 09:47:02] - aaron:  ME...  ~a

[2005-07-14 09:41:17] - ddr_people: not we! today is finish-moving-vinnie day -vamy

[2005-07-14 09:30:59] - ddr_people: so who's coming today? - aaron

[2005-07-14 09:25:00] - lori: thanks... I do run on, don't I. - pierce

[2005-07-14 09:00:04] - pierce:  I felt the need to respond to you if only to break up the grand pierce monologue you have going ;) - lori

[2005-07-13 17:34:50] - furthermore, why do we really need a mobile tld?  wouldn't it make more sense to provide a subdomain on the main site?  like w.slashdot.org or something? - pierce

[2005-07-13 17:33:25] - oops, screwed up the italics.  Anyway, mobi is doubly stupid because the "m" and "o" are on the same key on numeric keypads, so it's superannoying to type. - pierce

[2005-07-13 17:31:24] - And why did they choose one of the few four-letter TLDs for a category intended to be accessed by people <i>using cell phone keypads<i>?  Who really associates "mobi" with mobile technology anyway?  Why not "wifi", if they must use four letters, or maybe shorten it to "wi" or something. - pierce

[2005-07-13 17:28:51] - What pornographer is going to use the .xxx domain?  I see two camps: the ones that consider themselves too "legitimate" for such an unseemly TLD (such as playboy), and the ones that understand that they're pornographic but still won't want to put themselves in an obvious category for firewall blocking.  Really, what would they gain? - pierce

[2005-07-13 17:26:12] - I don't understand ICANN.  Some of their choices for TLDs are very strange.  What respectable business person is going to want to use a pseudoleetspeek TLD ".biz" for his or her organization?  It's too slangy, doesn't look professional... - pierce

[2005-07-13 16:15:36] - because at least if the estate tax comparison is more hyperbolic to a conservative, I can say it's partially a difference of magnitude rather than just my personal bias. - pierce

[2005-07-13 16:14:31] - So someone who's a conservative (or maybe more conservative than me): which would you say is a more glaringly hyperbolic comparison?  Estate Tax Logic to Holocaust Logic, or Soviet Gulag conditions to Gitmo conditions? - pierce

[2005-07-13 16:13:05] - However, if it's somebody that I agree with, I tend to overlook it and focus on the fact that the principles may be the same even if they are to very different degrees. -Paul

[2005-07-13 16:11:56] - Pierce: I think I'm somewhat guilty of the same thing. When it's somebody I disagree with, I often frown upon what I see as exaggerated comparisons to Nazis and the like. -Paul

[2005-07-13 15:52:18] - okay... to continue my monologue, I suppose I wasn't giving the benefit of the doubt to the positions, I was giving the benefit of the "I already agree with them to some extent" - pierce

[2005-07-13 15:48:18] - of course, my original comment was tongue-in-cheek, but I do genuinely hate it when hyperbole is used as an argumentative tool (though I've occasionally been guilty of it myself), so it's odd that I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to the positions of hyperbolists, if not the hyperbolists themselves. - pierce

[2005-07-13 15:46:35] - however, I've recently found myself commenting that just because certain democrats make exaggerated statements (comparing guantanamo to soviet gulags, for example), it doesn't mean we shouldn't pay attention to the issue that elicited such a comparison in the first place (allegations of prisoner abuse at gitmo). - pierce

[2005-07-13 15:44:36] - "I agree that she missed the point, but I think that is a fitting punishment for anyone who so recklessly uses hyperbole: miss their point, and it takes away the value of their having used it in the first place." (referring to a conservative who compared the estate tax to the holocaust) - pierce

[2005-07-13 15:44:03] - hmmm, it bothers me when I see examples of my own bias (or at least, how my opinion changes over time, but I think it's bias).  I was reading back through some message board entries, and came across this comment: - pierce

[2005-07-13 14:49:35] - lori: thanks ^_^ -amy

[2005-07-13 14:49:21] - heyyy .( -amy

[2005-07-13 14:32:41] - *** Paul whistles innocently

[2005-07-13 14:32:30] - *** Paul trips Amy as she walks away

[2005-07-13 14:30:18] - amy: run.  run fast.  I'll cover you.  (Btw, good luck with moving today) - lori

[2005-07-13 14:20:24] - a: technically, you probably only need 1 or 2 accidents to create a ton 0.) *ducks* -amy

[2005-07-13 13:15:09] - aaron: driving void where prohibited. - pierce

[2005-07-13 13:12:29] - aaron:  if you run the study with a couple hundred people in a densly populated area over a year, you'll get TONS of accidents.  ~a

[2005-07-13 12:57:01] - pierce: contact your physician to see if driving is right for you. pregnant women or children under five should not use driving. - aaron

[2005-07-13 12:55:54] - a: I guess you could measure things like reaction time, or weaving, things which contribute to accidents. If you simply measured accident count, your experimental conclusion would probably be that accidents never occur - aaron

[2005-07-13 12:55:09] - and you should be prepared for some drivers to experience nausea, fatigue, or anal leakage. - pierce

[2005-07-13 12:53:49] - a: So what you're describing is the procedure to conduct an experiment proving the theory, "using a cell phone while driving causes people to drive worse" - aaron

[2005-07-13 12:30:29] - exactly.  ~a

[2005-07-13 12:28:22] - a: You also need to give some people cell phones which are just entirely made of sugar to make sure there isn't a placebo effect. :-P -Paul

[2005-07-13 12:17:26] - and the argument:  "a really safe driver wouldn't want to talk on a cel phone while driving"  (like you)  ~a

[2005-07-13 12:16:42] - basically, you're solving the argument:  "what about all the unsafe drivers that talk on cel phones BECAUSE they're unsafe drivers and they just don't care"  ~a

[2005-07-13 12:14:42] - with the scientific method, you have to take "people" and "force" some of them (some of which may not otherwise like to talk on cel phones) to use cel phones when driving.  and you have to "force" some of them (some of which may otherwise LIKE to talk on cel phones) to not talk on cel phones.  ~a

[2005-07-13 12:13:43] - what they've done (which is the only thing you can do with correlational studies) is seperated the "people who use cel phones" and "people who don't use cel phones" into seperate groups...  ~a

[2005-07-13 12:09:29] - a: okay, what would a control group be? - aaron

[2005-07-13 11:45:09] - aaron:  nope.  ~a

[2005-07-12 16:06:22] - a: Doesn't the "four times more likely than xxx" imply that they had a control group? (non cell-phone users?) - aaron

[2005-07-12 16:04:01] - a: Oh, I'm sure the survey is flawed in a few ways. -Paul

[2005-07-12 15:09:33] - paul:  it didn't say anything about hands free dialing AND it didn't have a control group.  ~a

[2005-07-12 15:08:23] - aaron:  governments like overlapping (redundant) laws.  you get better coverage that way!  (sarcasm)  ~a

[2005-07-12 15:01:31] - a: I feel like a hazard driving while looking for a CD, or driving while trying to see if my registration is in the glove compartment, or driving while trying to eat a bean burrito without getting it on my shirt. I think these all just fall under general negligence though, I'm not sure why cell phone driving shouldn't be the same - aaron

[2005-07-12 14:21:24] - a: I would tend to agree. I do think it's very telling that hands free phones don't seem to make a difference, though. -Paul

[2005-07-12 14:04:58] - they probably haven't done any studies on [driving with kids] vs. [driving while talking on the cel phone] or [driving when having a conversation in person] vs. [driving while talking on the cel phone].  it seems like driving while talking on a hands free phone (WITH hands free dialing) is no more dangerous than the other things we consider acceptable.  ~a

[2005-07-12 13:41:42] - Aaron: I'm somewhat surprised too. You would think driving with one hand would be more dangerous than driving with two hands. -Paul

[2005-07-12 11:59:16] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/12/cells.drivers/index.html Study: Tigers dangerous when agitated. Seriously though, I'm surprised at the note about hands-free phones offering no safety benefit. - aaron

[2005-07-12 11:27:04] - When Best Buy offers me their protection plan whenever I buy an expensive item from them I don't think they're offering it to me because it's normal and good for me to buy it. I think they're offering it because they want my money. -Paul

[2005-07-12 11:26:06] - Pierce: I don't know if they're necessarily implying that it's normal. I think McDonald's is in the business of making money and they do that by selling food so obviously they're going to try to sell you as much food as you'll buy. That doesn't mean they think it's necessarily good for you. -Paul

[2005-07-12 10:57:37] - (and by "normal", I mean "within the realm of normality") - pierce

[2005-07-12 10:56:53] - in other words, by offering a super-sized drink, and suggesting it to a person buying a meal for one, they're implying that the super-sized drink is a normal serving size for a single person. - pierce

[2005-07-12 10:55:42] - Paul: in all fairness, the movie was supposedly an investigation of the effects of McDonald's suggestion in our society.  Sure, McDonald's doesn't say you should eat there every meal, but they purport that their food is perfectly within the realm of "normal" food... - pierce

[2005-07-12 10:08:59] - a: If you go through life always answering every question with a 'yes' then you're going to have a lot of problems, including eating unhealthily. -Paul

[2005-07-12 10:08:19] - a: Well, I HAD forgotten that he said he would supersize everytime he was asked if he wanted to but that doesn't change my point. He didn't HAVE to come up with his arbitrary rule to supersize every time somebody asked him to. -Paul

[2005-07-12 08:45:48] - he also admitted in the movie at the end that what he was doing was a wee bit ludicrous. - mig

[2005-07-12 03:08:35] - pierce:  despite my disagreement-sounding-statement i totally agree with you.  i mean "vegan chef" made me laugh!  if his gf was a vegan XOR a chef he'd already be way too unused to greasy processed foods.  ~a

[2005-07-12 00:46:15] - omg, this is SO COOL.  http://mnt.is-a-geek.org/tron/  ~a

[2005-07-12 00:41:20] - pierce:  why not?  spurious arguments are the reason our nation is in this bind in the first place.  ~a

[2005-07-12 00:05:47] - ... because it's what happened to a body with little to no tolerance for the type of food McDonald's serves.  As much as I'd like to see people eat healthier food, I don't want it to happen because of spurious arguments. - pierce

[2005-07-12 00:04:34] - let's also keep in mind that Super Size Me was not just anecdotal, it was unrepresentative.  This was a guy whose girlfriend was a vegan chef.  To say his body would be unused to greasy processed foods would be an understatement. The representation of "this is what McDonald's food does to a healthy body" is not very accurate. - pierce

[2005-07-11 22:30:33] - paul:  i think you missed what aparna said.  she said that he could only supersize things whenever people offered it to him (as opposed to every time)  ~a

[2005-07-11 17:31:41] - The tone of the movie placed a great deal of blame on McDonald's even though I think it's reasonable to assert that a lot of blame rests with him for eating far more calories per meal than is healthy. -Paul

[2005-07-11 17:30:06] - aba: I think that was the woman's point. The way he ate food in Supersize Me was very misleading since most people don't eat at McDonald's every meal and supersize everything. There was no reason why he HAD to supersize every meal. -Paul

[2005-07-11 17:20:44] - paul: in supersize me, the guy was obligated to try different things on the menu and to supersize whenever offered (thus making it very hard to limit his calorie intake).  i think this woman is one of the few people out there who actually knows how to choose what she is eating at mcdonalds.  -  aba

[2005-07-11 17:13:49] - pierce: so you're telling me you're allowed to beat a man to a bloody pulp with a bright purple dildo the size of a baseball bat, but the instant you stick it in his ass you've crossed some kind of line - aaron

[2005-07-11 16:43:20] - it also explains why acceleration was so jerky.  ~a

[2005-07-11 16:39:35] - a: :)  feels nice to be right once in a while huh?  I've forgotten that feeling myself... :P - lori

[2005-07-11 16:33:29] - lori:  san fran cable cars  . . . they were called "cable cars" because there was (i was right) moving cables below the road.  ~a

[2005-07-11 16:21:51] - whoa!  hadn't refreshed the window in a while, I guess.  sorry about the late response. - pierce

[2005-07-11 16:20:25] - aaron: sex is "supposed" to make a game rate AO (adults only).  Because stabbing a woman in the neck and taking her money is okay for anyone over 17, but having consentual sex with her is damaging to anyone under 18.  Isn't it obvious? - pierce

[2005-07-11 15:13:56] - Unsigned: Long enough for the guy, it seems. :-P -Paul

[2005-07-11 14:53:45] - Of course it's not that long either.

[2005-07-11 14:44:39] - Unsigned: I didn't think so either. -Paul

[2005-07-11 14:43:59] - http://www.freep.com/features/food/mcdonalds11e_20050711.htm McDonald's diet works for her. -Paul

[2005-07-11 14:43:06] - ddr: agreed, thurs at whenever end up showing up, because it seems that's what happens regardless of the time we set .p -amy

[2005-07-11 14:42:24] - paul:  That's actually not that short.

[2005-07-11 14:41:56] - why is the water bill 48 dollars?

[2005-07-11 14:41:53] - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8124-1687113,00.html  7.3 minutes.This is the average length of time between penetration and orgasm for a man. -Paul

[2005-07-11 14:41:17] - it only makes me love you more

[2005-07-11 14:32:39] - ddr_folks: so we are staying on thurs at 6:15?  Just for clarification... - lori

[2005-07-11 14:24:29] - a: I can go any day but tuesday, including today if you guys wanted to move it to monday - aaron

[2005-07-11 14:10:32] - besides tuesday, I think thursday is the next best day so let's just keep it there. wednesday and friday there's no chance I can make it - vinnie

[2005-07-11 14:09:28] - lori: and yeah, i figured it wouldn't be so bad for me to skip out on ddr thurs in favor of lifting heavy objects, in terms of getting a work out. so i am sitll undecided if i want to go on thurs. -amy

[2005-07-11 14:08:38] - lordripaul: wow, you guys are so sweet. i don't think we will need help but we will let you know this weekend? thanks! ^_^ -amy

[2005-07-11 13:50:27] - vamy: I could also help, assuming you guys are still moving when the weekend rolls around. -Paul

[2005-07-11 13:46:20] - vamy:  yeah, i'll help!  ~a

[2005-07-11 13:41:29] - amy: are you going to be in need of help moving?  I could see that being a potential workout oppertunity that wouldn't suck ;)  - lori

[2005-07-11 13:30:34] - a: wed, thurs, fri will be moving days... actually, i could probably make it thursday since i will be moving all this weekend, but tuesday would have been better is all. but i don't want to move it if not everyone can go -amy

[2005-07-11 13:27:07] - amy:  is there a day that everybody can do it?  what days can you do it besides tuesday?  ~a

[2005-07-11 13:02:49] - ddr_ppl: OK if aaron can't make it then let's not move it.. you guys can go on thursday and i'll just skip this week -amy

[2005-07-11 13:02:23] - aaron: OK i thought it seemed like a misheard lyric

[2005-07-11 13:00:41] - Aaron: There is a higher rating, though. It's called 'Adults Only' and supposedly if those things were a part of the game (and not just a mod) then it would push it into that higher rating. -Paul

[2005-07-11 12:39:11] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.games/07/11/video.game.sex.gta.ap/index.html controversy over GTA mod which allegedly unlocks in-game pornographic material.. .. wait, wasn't this game already rated 'M'? - aaron

[2005-07-11 12:24:21] - I can't go on tuesday - aaron

[2005-07-11 12:24:16] - amy: it's a dumber "scuse me while i kiss this guy" kind of thing - aaron

[2005-07-11 11:30:49] - i don't actually care what time it's at . . . i just need to know what we've settled on.  ~a

[2005-07-11 11:30:30] - ddr/tue/615/sfm?  ~a

[2005-07-11 11:12:10] - I would prefer tuesday too, as I will be helping her move, and possibly still moving myself :p - vinnie

[2005-07-11 11:09:27] - whoever_set_the_title: hmm, i always thought it was "wrong addiction that i can't deny?" or something? or am i completely misinterpreting? .) -amy

[2005-07-11 10:38:13] - ddr_people: Tuesday is fine with me. - lori

[2005-07-11 10:22:01] - ddr_ppl: would it be OK if we moved DDR to tuesday this week? i will be moving on thursday and prob would not be able to go; it is up to you guys -amy

[2005-07-11 09:38:21] - it's 7 eleven

[2005-07-08 14:20:56] - pierce:  i just thought of a secound solution that's even better than my first one!  next time that you FORGET to REOPEN outlook . . . make sure to FORGET FOREVER.  ~a

[2005-07-08 13:40:16] - aba: That's probably true. I thought it was a good idea to quiz them on how well they knew each other but I agree that learning things like how to spell their names or what their middle names were didn't seem like the best questions to ask. -Paul

[2005-07-08 13:31:05] - http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh07072005.html democrats ... the other war party. - mig

[2005-07-08 13:27:13] - paul:  i felt like some of the final round questions were very arbitrary and not particularly a good measure of how well you really knew your partner.  -  aba

[2005-07-08 13:16:32] - Pierce: I just don't think I'll ever really understand why communism and people like Che Guevara are considered cool. -Paul

[2005-07-08 13:11:05] - as for the obits, I don't really care if bad people (however we judge that) get kindly obits.  if they were bad enough, history will remember.  we don't need to use the obits as an opportunity to get revenge. - pierce

[2005-07-08 13:07:34] - but the contrast to the reaction to nazi symbolism is apt, I'll admit that.  And generally, I think the whole thing is in poor taste. - pierce

[2005-07-08 13:06:47] - not that it really excuses it, but I can't think of anything more insulting to the ideas behind communism than kids wearing designer t-shirts with soviet iconography because of the ironic value.  Obviously, I doubt these kids are advocating gulags (just as people with patriotic U.S. t-shirts may not be advocating guantanamo bay), - pierce

[2005-07-08 12:58:12] - a: fancy that.  where did that menu option come from? :) thanks! - pierce

[2005-07-08 12:32:44] - pierce:  they don't have a "close all" ?  ~a

[2005-07-08 12:26:57] - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/06/30/do3001.xml  Why do these mass-murdering commies get such a good press? -Paul

[2005-07-08 12:05:03] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8506245/ Man faints, dies after seeing epidural. Wife sues California hospital for wrongful death. That has got to suck, delivering a baby while not knowing what happened to your husband and finding out later that he died. -Paul

[2005-07-08 12:03:15] - Pierce: Or I'll open a link in a new tab and forget to visit it until I see the tab up there an hour later. -Paul

[2005-07-08 12:02:41] - Pierce: I don't know how similar you consider this, but I have opened a new tab in firefox with the intention of going somewhere and have forgotten where I intended to go in the milliseconds between deciding to open the tab and thinking about what URL to put in. -Paul

[2005-07-08 12:01:25] - Pierce: Oh, wow, you really are a huge window packrat. :-P -Paul

[2005-07-08 11:51:21] - paul: it automatically closes every message window at the same time, so emails I opened ages ago that I don't even care about anymore get closed. - pierce

[2005-07-08 11:41:37] - Pierce: I must be missing something here, how does closing Outlook and reopening it solve any problems? -Paul

[2005-07-08 11:37:36] - that's probably not a problem anyone else has, but it's quit annoying. - pierce

[2005-07-08 11:37:10] - ...but in that two second timeframe, I apparently go into a trance and completely forget the "reopen it" part, so I'll go for like an hour without notifications of new messages and I won't even know it.  You'd think I could keep track of my intent for two seconds, but noooo. - pierce

[2005-07-08 11:36:23] - gah! happened again.  anyone else have this problem?  I'm a huge window packrat, I almost never close them.  With outlook in particular, this clogs up the taskbar very quickly so periodically I'll just close outlook altogether, intending to reopen it after it finishes closing... - pierce

[2005-07-08 09:58:17] - a: You might've sent me a link to there before but I haven't been reading it a lot until recently. It's got some high quality articles in there. -Paul

[2005-07-08 08:00:46] - thanks whoever did that...grrr - lori

[2005-07-07 21:52:52] - i have a spare tire loose in my trunk - lori

[2005-07-07 19:27:29] - paul:  didn't i send you that link?  i go to that page monthly.  ~a

[2005-07-07 17:37:24] - http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Main_Page Best. Wiki. Ever. -Paul

[2005-07-07 16:46:58] - ddr_people:  Well, that tears it.  Dad just got called into a meeting and needs me to pick up my mother at the airport - sadly that means I'm missing DDR no matter what time it happens.  Let me know if folks are doing anything tommorrow though!  Sorry! - lori

[2005-07-07 16:31:45] - paul: I'm with you on that. - pierce

[2005-07-07 16:10:17] - vinnie - well, i'll be ther when I can but barring a miracle it won't be until 6:15 at the earliest - and if yesterday's traffic is any indication it will be closer to 6:30.  Maybe I'll just not come... - lori

[2005-07-07 15:50:10] - lori - I guess we never figured out a time. I'll probably end up showing up at 5:45 - vinnie

[2005-07-07 15:49:07] - Pierce: True. I just think that it's a bit over the top to compare this kind of situation where the worst part of the job seems to be boredom. It seems to lessen real sweatshops. -Paul

[2005-07-07 15:09:10] - a: I will stump it!!! - aaron

[2005-07-07 15:01:02] - paul: well I imagine the reality of playing the same video game every day as your job would be maddeningly tedious.  regardless, this doesn't even count as "playing" the game, since they're just watching for hostile players and GM messages.  Not saying it's a lot of work, but it's hardly a dream job. - pierce

[2005-07-07 14:46:08] - aaron:  i fixed the program.  it exhaustively solves your puzzle in a couple hundred milliseconds.  ~a

[2005-07-07 14:29:43] - Getting paid money, as little as it is, just for playing a game doesn't seem like it's all that bad. -Paul

[2005-07-07 14:29:03] - Pierce: I suppose so. Just seems like the term has more of a negative connotation than is appropriate here. There are some people who might consider those jobs to be close to a dream job. -Paul

[2005-07-07 14:22:30] - paul: these days it's more generically used to refer to factory-like environments where the bottom-line workers get paid a pittance compared to the revenue of the company. - pierce

[2005-07-07 14:04:06] - I think it's a bit crazy how the term "sweatshop" is thrown around these days. The article even admits that there is hardly any work to be done by these people. How do you justify calling it a sweatshop? -Paul

[2005-07-07 14:00:42] - http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3141815 From sweatshops to stateside corporations, some people are profiting off of MMO gold. -Paul

[2005-07-07 13:12:30] - lori: None yet, but i plan to show up - aaron

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