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[2005-08-19 10:47:35] - a: okey doke everything appears to be in order. thanks. - mig
[2005-08-19 10:40:53] - how ironic. ~a
[2005-08-19 10:40:37] - dave: it's because you were negatives of eachother. ~a
[2005-08-19 10:39:55] - paul: hey! we switched colors! I want my old one back! <shakes fist> -dave
[2005-08-19 10:39:34] - paul: <nod nod> -dave
[2005-08-19 10:35:10] - mig: That's very true, and it's something I really need to work on. Too often I am swayed by the things that politicians say instead of what they do. -Paul
[2005-08-19 10:34:40] - Dave: What's funny/sad is that some people out there are probably cheering because they see that as ammunition to use against him. -paul
[2005-08-19 10:29:07] - oh i thought i had the right one in the cron file. - mig
[2005-08-19 10:27:24] - mig: well it seemed like you moved the directory jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9 to tomcat so you need to change @reboot $HOME/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9/bin/startup.sh to @reboot $HOME/tomcat/bin/startup.sh. basically @reboot just runs that command when the computer boots up. ~a
[2005-08-19 10:25:34] - paul: when it comes to political figures, saying the right things is almost meaningless. - mig
[2005-08-19 10:24:33] - a: what do i need to change the crontab entry to? - mig
[2005-08-19 10:23:26] - from Paul's article "argued that promotions and firings in the workplace should be based entirely on merit, not affirmative action programs." <cheering> -dave
[2005-08-19 10:13:56] - mig: did you see my messages about tomcat? ~a
[2005-08-19 10:13:38] - mig: True, there is probably no finer example than Alan Greenspan. We have no idea how he'll act if he gets the job. But at least he seems to be saying (have said?) the right things. -Paul
[2005-08-19 10:07:53] - The entire theme of the Bush administration these last 6 years has been the illusion that they are actually conservatives. Roberts IMO is just another attempt to keep this illusion alive. - mig
[2005-08-19 10:06:01] - i seriously doubt Bush would really nominate someone who will actually work towards limited constitutional government. - mig
[2005-08-19 10:04:59] - paul: beware though. despite his past, people change. remember that it was fashionable to be for limited government in the reagan years. - mig
[2005-08-19 10:03:53] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/18/AR2005081802041.html The more I hear about Roberts, the more I like him. -Paul
[2005-08-19 10:00:59] - "Card playing, it seemed, like sex and drinking, was one of those adult pursuits that no one teaches you." From an article I read. So true. I wish somebody had taught me how to drink and have sex.
-Paul[2005-08-19 09:58:08] - Dave: Or the message board.
-Paul[2005-08-19 09:24:37] - mig: <nod> like in the majority of academic circles -dave
[2005-08-19 09:23:28] - a: in some crowds, yes it is. - mig
[2005-08-19 09:23:26] - a: hmm, you're right, I guess not fashionable -dave
[2005-08-19 09:22:47] - I guess with anti-semiticism (that a word?) it might be more understandable since being Jewish borders on a race though -dave
[2005-08-19 09:21:14] - it's fashionable to be anti-christian? ~a
[2005-08-19 09:20:51] - dave: or didn't do. ~a
[2005-08-19 09:20:43] - it's like it's fashionable to be anti-christian but an unpardonable sin if you're anti-semitic - this from the nation which prides itself on impartiality to religion -dave
[2005-08-19 09:19:11] - a: what I can't fathom is how people seem to be fine with people accusing others of being "an orthodox priest", but at the same time get incensed if people "accuse" others for being Jewish, Muslim, etc -dave
[2005-08-19 09:13:51] - a: yeah, the article speculates that the investigator wants to embarrass the Smithsonian for what they did -dave
[2005-08-19 09:08:23] - and yes, i know that goes both ways. ~a
[2005-08-19 09:07:52] - it's kindof hard to support your side when your accusors don't confront you. ~a
[2005-08-19 09:07:08] - well somebody forgot to give smithsonian the investigation's report. ~a
[2005-08-19 08:58:24] - a: in other words, that he was\is an extremely respected scientist, and that all those rumors were false -dave
[2005-08-19 08:57:16] - a: an independent govt agency setup to investigate instances such as those investigated it and came up with the info I listed -dave
[2005-08-19 08:56:25] - a: I'm not trying to, like I said, my problem is with how they reacted, not the actual theories -dave
[2005-08-19 08:56:14] - dave: maybe he deserved it. who knows? maybe sternberg IS a shoddy scientist and a closet bible thumper. i've seen no facts either way. ~a
[2005-08-19 08:55:52] - a: You'd think scientists would be scientific and publish another paper refuting whatever points there were, instead of personally attacking the guy, saying he's a wacko, closet priest, sleeper agent, and not a scientist (he has two PHDs for heck's sake) -dave
[2005-08-19 08:54:55] - every scientist knows that darwin's theories were full of holes. that's why it was proposed as a theory. gosh we probably shouldn't rehash this argument AGAIN should we? ~a
[2005-08-19 08:54:06] - a: besides, my beef really isn't with the evolution / intelligent design aspect of it, it's what the Smithsonian (govt agency, right?) did to him in retaliation. -dave
[2005-08-19 08:53:01] - a: hence why the guy is publishing the article, to educate others about potential questions -dave
[2005-08-19 08:52:27] - i agree that i am also not convinced by intelligent design. however, i don't know of any questions that they have brought to the fore. ~a
[2005-08-19 08:51:56] - all the colors are weird O_o -amy
[2005-08-19 08:51:26] - what questions?! ~a
[2005-08-19 08:49:22] - ""I am not convinced by intelligent design but they have brought a lot of difficult questions to the fore," Sternberg said. "Science only moves forward on controversy." -daev
[2005-08-19 08:48:11] - poor guy, I feel for him. apparently it's devastated his life [the editor's]. His marriage has collapsed too apparently -dave
[2005-08-19 08:47:36] - haha -daev
[2005-08-19 08:47:26] - "The rumor mill became so infected," James McVay, the principal legal adviser in the Office of Special Counsel, wrote to Sternberg, "that one of your colleagues had to circulate [your résumé] simply to dispel the rumor that you were not a scientist." -dave
[2005-08-19 08:47:03] - "The allegations against you were later determined to be false." -dave
[2005-08-19 08:46:45] - "The U.S. Office of Special Counsel, which was established to protect federal employees from reprisals, examined e-mail traffic from these scientists and noted that "retaliation came in many forms . . . misinformation was disseminated through the Smithsonian Institution and to outside sources. " -dave
[2005-08-19 08:45:36] - a: they have no comment. apparently an independent agency was called on to do a review of the situation, and that's where the info that the washpost gives (and that i copied) comes from -dave
[2005-08-19 08:43:52] - dave: what's smithsonian's side of the story? ~a
[2005-08-19 08:43:36] - "He mailed Meyer's article to three scientists for a peer review. It has been suggested that Sternberg [the editor] fabricated the peer review or sought unqualified scientists, a claim [that has been] dismissed. "-dave
[2005-08-19 08:42:54] - mig: and you need to fix your crontab entry or else tomcat won't startup when the computer is rebooted. ~a
[2005-08-19 08:42:35] - paper was written by "Cambridge University-educated philosopher of science who argues that evolutionary theory cannot account for the vast profusion of multicellular species and forms in what is known as the Cambrian "explosion," which occurred about 530 million years ago." -dave
[2005-08-19 08:41:39] - hmm, apparently they're bashing the editor who just published the paper of the other guy -dave
[2005-08-19 08:40:12] - "They were saying I accepted money under the table, that I was a crypto-priest, that I was a sleeper cell operative for the creationists," said Steinberg, 42 , who is a Smithsonian research associate. "I was basically run out of there." -dave
[2005-08-19 08:39:46] - he has two PHDs in evolutionary biology. -dave
[2005-08-19 08:39:33] - they spread all sorts of false rumors about him and junk. -dave
[2005-08-19 08:39:07] - apparently they fund a journal that he is an editor for -dave
[2005-08-19 08:38:52] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/18/AR2005081801680.html Smithsonian bashes scientist for publishing paper raising intelligent design questions -dave
[2005-08-19 08:19:38] - mig: echo $JAVA_HOME ~a
[2005-08-19 08:18:45] - mig: "iptables -P INPUT DROP" that includes "-i lo". which is why you couldn't connect to it from my machine locally. i've opened 8080 though. ~a
[2005-08-18 22:25:47] - pierce: filesharing networks. it's called "do you want to". now that I have heard it a few times I can say it is ridiculously catchy, just like "take me out" - vinnie
[2005-08-18 22:16:59] - quickly took a look at the tomcat logs and everything seems to be fine on its end... - mig
[2005-08-18 22:03:00] - a: it only requires 8080 to be open. i've gotten it running but i can't connect to it at all. even trying to connect to it from your machine locally doesn't work...... strange. - mig
[2005-08-18 21:44:40] - a: i guess i should have asked this sooner, but what v. of java do you have on your machine? - mig
[2005-08-18 17:32:04] -
[2005-08-18 17:31:19] - pierce: what? ~a
[2005-08-18 17:30:16] - a: did you compensate for the desaturated colors of the message board over the last few days by oversaturating the colors now? - pierce
[2005-08-18 17:27:37] - vinnie: vere did joo get ze mp3? I've not heard it. - pierce
[2005-08-18 17:26:57] - Dave: Adrian had it right, it's Xpovos. Y'know, I suspected that you might mis-read that, but I can never figure a better way to say it. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-18 17:09:24] - sam: that's cruel. ~a
[2005-08-18 17:09:00] - the last part (crontab) is so it will startup tomcat every time the comptuer boots up. make sure to tell me what ports to open up (adrian grumbles). ~a
[2005-08-18 17:07:33] - Dog powered scooter... This is actually for sale... http://www.dogpoweredscooter.com -sam
[2005-08-18 17:07:31] - then "unzip -q jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9.zip; unzip -oq jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9-compat.zip" then "crontab -e" and add "@reboot $HOME/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9/bin/startup.sh" to the file it edits. ~a
[2005-08-18 17:06:56] - mig: i started up tomcat and it didn't open port 8080 by default. i'm guessing you'll have to add in configuration. here. what you can do, is this as YOUR USER: "wget http://apache.seekmeup.com/jakarta/tomcat-5/v5.5.9/bin/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9.zip http://apache.seekmeup.com/jakarta/tomcat-5/v5.5.9/bin/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9-compat.zip" ~a
[2005-08-18 15:54:07] - I have to say, yahoo launch's dance channel has been on fire today. Lots of good songs. -Paul
[2005-08-18 15:29:31] - pierce: have you heard the new Franz Ferdinand single? I have ze mp3 and am liking it a lot - vinnie
[2005-08-18 14:46:26] - dave: i know. but i had to leave in the middle of my depth research. ~a
[2005-08-18 14:26:00] - a: ahh, well that's not exactly what I was referring to, but that would definitely make their insurance worse too -dave
[2005-08-18 14:17:54] - dave: alcohol / drugs i believe. ~a
[2005-08-18 14:10:45] - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050815/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/no_fly_babies babies caught on no-fly list - aaron
[2005-08-18 13:39:53] - Dave: Children make for more impressive protests.
-Paul[2005-08-18 13:39:23] - what I found amusing was an article about them organizing it. Apparently they told everyone to bring pictures of children, even if they didn't have any -dave
[2005-08-18 13:38:32] - so maybe -dave
[2005-08-18 13:38:30] - paul: I think moveon.org organized a buncha candlelight vigils etc yesterday -dave
[2005-08-18 13:22:18] - Dave: On the topic of Sheehan, I saw some people gathered around a sign in Reston yesterday that said "The war is a lie". I wonder if that had anything to do with her. -Paul
[2005-08-18 12:55:06] - in the context of the study I mean -dave
[2005-08-18 12:54:46] - a: what's impaired? -dave
[2005-08-18 12:51:21] - dave: i know this isn't what i was looking for, this is all i have so far "Ross, Howard, Ganikos, and Taylor (1991) conducted a literature search on ethnic/ racial group involvement in impaired driving and found that African Americans and Hispanics are disproportionately more likely to be impaired drivers." ~a
[2005-08-18 12:49:04] - person in my net sec group last year had his email address as alias@vt.edu, thought it was hilarious -dave
[2005-08-18 12:46:48] - dave: i'm going to guess it's xpovos. ~a
[2005-08-18 12:44:33] - a: that's killed though, I wonder if that mirrors just accidents -dave
[2005-08-18 12:43:59] - xpovos: haha, is your email the typica first.last@gmail.com? I sent it to youcanguessthe etc @gmail.com and it got bounced, hehe -dave
[2005-08-18 12:42:51] - (adrian looking for race crash statistics finds) more people are killed in crashes in alabama per year than virginia. ~a
[2005-08-18 12:40:50] - paul: <nod> -dave
[2005-08-18 12:40:42] - a: <shrug> just as scientific as you polling your friends to see how much they pay for insurance -dave
[2005-08-18 12:37:31] - dave: seriously though, i think your study is highly dubious. every time i jerk on the wheel, slam on the breaks, and scream "asshole" all at the same time, it's never an african american. i'd like to see some real numbers. (/me looks for real numbers) ~a
[2005-08-18 12:35:43] - dave: sounds very scientific. ~a
[2005-08-18 12:35:43] - Dave: I suspect her goal is much more to just raise a ruckus than to meet with Bush. -Paul
[2005-08-18 12:35:41] - but I see the latter much less frequently than the former -dave
[2005-08-18 12:34:56] - a: all the aggressive female drivers I have seen are either black, or young women driving really expensive cars/suvs -dave
[2005-08-18 12:34:42] - a: Interesting, because I just got an email from them saying my bill is ready.
-Paul[2005-08-18 12:33:55] - a: well, because amy is asian, isn't she? and black females are notorious for being aggressive drivers, at least IMO -dave
[2005-08-18 12:29:52] - i mean it's kind of weird to see you say that. if it's a fact, then it's one i've never seen evidence of. ~a
[2005-08-18 12:29:20] - dave: why asian vs. black? ~a
[2005-08-18 12:26:58] - amy: yeah, I don't know either. I can understand why the locals would be upset though. Apparently they've made traffic horrible over there. Someone in that article also cited that they were scared for their kids waiting for schoolbuses etc - demonstrators are generally not the friendliest of crowds -dave
[2005-08-18 12:24:08] - a: race goes into it too, like asian females probably get much lower rates than black females -dave
[2005-08-18 12:23:48] - dave: oh, i was just reading an article about that: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/16/politics/main780687.shtml i don't really understand why people are driving over the crosses and stuff though. -amy
[2005-08-18 12:22:35] - a: absolutely. i was surprised the quote was that low, too. but i have probably the state minimum. -amy
[2005-08-18 12:22:05] - like does she think what he says the second time around will make her feel any better? -dave
[2005-08-18 12:21:26] - so what, she wants him to meet with her again? -dave
[2005-08-18 12:20:55] - meaning, she's protesting to get Bush to meet with her - but he met with her before she started the protest -dave
[2005-08-18 12:20:23] - you know, I entirely support Cindy Sheehan's right to protest and all, but the practicalities of what she's doing are rather silly IMO. -dave
[2005-08-18 12:15:07] - a: i wouldn't be surprised if it was per year, women have drastically lower rates than guys our age -dave
[2005-08-18 12:14:03] - amy: are you sure it isn't 700 per 6months? ~a
[2005-08-18 12:12:44] - paul: yes, i have geico. ~a
[2005-08-18 12:10:05] - paul: err, I meant much lower car-insurance cost than men -dave
[2005-08-18 12:09:37] - paul: just like young women usually have much higher medical costs than young men, because they can get pregnant -dave
[2005-08-18 12:09:07] - paul: women have always had much lower cost than men -dave
[2005-08-18 12:08:32] - or you had, rather -dave
[2005-08-18 12:08:22] - Paul: it's also partially because you have a new car. I think your car's bluebook value is higher than mine -dave
[2005-08-18 12:07:40] - a: I want to say mine is 300-400, but I'm still grouped in with my parent's plan -dave
[2005-08-18 12:06:59] - amy: Wow, only $700 or so per year? That's pretty good. Do women get a 50% discount or something?
-Paul[2005-08-18 12:06:31] - dave: I actually don't think so (but I don't remember) which is why I listed it just in case. -Paul
[2005-08-18 12:05:06] - Paul: did you report the "slight accident" to the insurance company? -dave
[2005-08-18 12:04:52] - a: 700-something/yr, and i had 1 traffic violation at the time i got the insurance. -amy
[2005-08-18 11:50:40] - a: max 300! - aaron
[2005-08-18 11:46:39] - a: Do you, by any chance, have Geico? -Paul
[2005-08-18 11:43:01] - a: That's what my parents keep telling me but it still doesn't make me feel much better. My insurance better go down by a lot or else it'll be clobbering time. -Paul
[2005-08-18 11:39:21] -
~a[2005-08-18 11:39:11] - paul: you'll be 25 soon enough. ~a
[2005-08-18 11:36:29] - It bugs me to no end that I have a cheap car and a nearly spotless driving record (no speeding tickets and just a slight accident where the front of the car hit a support pole in a parking garage when I was backing up) yet still have to pay so much for insurance. -Paul
[2005-08-18 11:35:04] - a: I pay about $720 for six months for my car insurance which I think is entirely too much even though I know it's probably lower than average. -Paul
[2005-08-18 11:31:52] - amy: i dunno. mostly just red (plus factor in the supersecret greyness) ~a
[2005-08-18 11:29:57] - insurance = car ~a
[2005-08-18 11:29:40] - you_people: how much do you people pay for insurance? (everything is for 6 months) mine is 600ish with everything (subtract 200ish if you don't have collision, and comprehensive is very cheap so it really doesn't factor in much). i thought that was a lot until i went to esurance and saw 1000+ for the same thing. ~a
[2005-08-18 11:25:44] - dave: yeah. except i keep misspelling bluray. ~a
[2005-08-18 11:12:00] - a: oh wow, you gave vamy is own color ^_^; a cross betw pink and blue? .) -amy
[2005-08-18 11:08:25] - a: how useful, the blueray search thingie ^_^ -dave
[2005-08-18 10:59:49] - i'm still going. ~a
[2005-08-18 10:59:26] - ddr_ppl: no ddr for us today. we need to unvacation. -vamy
[2005-08-18 10:57:42] - xpovos: http://aporter.org/msg/blueray.html ~a
[2005-08-18 10:02:52] - Assuming that fries are counted as a side item, I'm not too surprised that the double cheeseburger is the most popular item. I think I actually know more people who order double cheeseburgers consistently than those who order quarter pounders and big macs consistently. -Paul
[2005-08-18 09:42:45] - Dave: I'm behind on the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD thing. Can you e-mail me any decent articles on it (preferably with a basic breakdown of the technology) since you seem to be up on it. youcanguessthehandle@gmail.com --Xpovos
[2005-08-18 08:46:55] - aaron: yeah, i woulda said french fries. maybe those aren't included since it's kinda a side item -dave
[2005-08-18 08:34:53] - dave: The double cheeseburger is mcdonalds most popular menu item? I would have guessed the quarter pounder or big mac. Or maybe french fries. - aaron
[2005-08-18 08:16:19] - another amusing thing is that they state that salads in many fast food restaurants have more calories (both fat and otherwise) than the burgers, but people like them because they think they're healthy -dave
[2005-08-18 08:15:36] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/17/AR2005081702063.html interesting article on health food in the restaurant industry. Apparently it doesn't sell well -dave
[2005-08-18 07:59:28] - dave: "mail loaded remote images despite a user's preference" that shouldn't even be a preference. ~a
[2005-08-18 07:51:52] - I checked and my printer costs $55 with a mail-in-rebate deal. A new toner cartridge costs $78 -dave
[2005-08-18 07:51:35] - Hehe, did you know that it generally costs less to buy a new (entry level) laser printer than it is to buy replacement toner cartridges? Apparently even if you factor in the fact that manufacturers put less toner in starting cartridges, it's generally worth it. -dave
[2005-08-18 07:24:47] - http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=24746 apple patches 20 security flaws -dave
[2005-08-18 07:23:51] - http://www.mobiledia.com/news/34588.html urine powered batteries -dave
[2005-08-18 07:21:12] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050817-5218.html Blu-Ray wins two more backers. Lookin bad for HD-DVD -dave
[2005-08-18 07:19:15] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050817-5217.html some employers becoming anti-phishing phishers sending fake fake emails -dave
[2005-08-17 15:38:36] - i always wondered why somebody didn't write a compiler for c++ to jvm bytecode. like . . . so we could get c++ code to compile into an applet. ~a
[2005-08-17 15:28:28] - sweeet. ~a
[2005-08-17 15:28:19] - "by separating the parsing from the compilation and the runtime, [perl 6 will] open the doors for multiple languages to cooperate . . .write your program in perl 6, perl 5, tcl, python, or any other language that there's a parser written for. interchangable runtime engines let you interpret your bytecode or convert it to something else." ~a
[2005-08-17 15:19:15] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050817-5214.html MS announces Xbox 360 pricing -dave
[2005-08-17 14:50:07] - i thought adrian changed the color to grayscale because it was raining yesterday... -sam
[2005-08-17 14:26:29] - a: if you're going by stock price alone, it's been a year since the Google IPO, and the share are over 3x what they were at the beginning -dave
[2005-08-17 14:25:31] - a: to give you an idea, dividends on index funds for the Dow and S&P for the past few years have been like .3 to 5.7%, so 8% is quite large compared to that -dave
[2005-08-17 14:23:20] - a: and like andrew said, they're generally reinvested, making your gains even larger -dave
[2005-08-17 14:20:59] - a: the dividends are entirely different from the stock price going up or down -dave
[2005-08-17 14:20:42] - a: 5.61 / 286 is roughly 2%. Since there are four quarters in a year, that means for a given year, you would get dividends (money flat out given to you) of 8%, which is huge -dave
[2005-08-17 13:24:31] - Yes, but that's in addition to the potential gain of the stock price continuing to climb. Also, dividends are typically reinvested, which is a big factor in compounding. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-17 13:23:31] - It results in a P:E roughly 2.5 times higher than comparative stocks, according to lastest Yahoo Finance figures. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-17 13:18:01] - $5.61 on 10 shares (which requires a $3000 investment) is only $56. ~a
[2005-08-17 13:17:32] - well $5.61 dividends still isn't very high. ~a
[2005-08-17 13:13:42] - a: You're just too used to Amazon type earnings, where they never produce dividends. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-17 13:13:17] - a: You
[2005-08-17 13:12:58] - a: I don't think the number that Dave quoted (income per share) is the same thing as the cost for a share of the stock. -paul
[2005-08-17 13:12:49] - xpovos: hehe. i had to look at the source to convince myself it wasn't totally gray. - aaron
[2005-08-17 13:11:50] - ok, i'm probably wrong. i guess net income per share is a pretty weird concept. i'm not making sense. ~a
[2005-08-17 13:11:32] - a: That's $5.61 earnings per share. That's the dividend rate. Which is indeed insanely high. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-17 13:11:00] - It's kinda like technicolor. If you know what color it's supposed to be, you can make it out still, but it's definitely washed. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-17 13:09:54] - dave: google is at $286 right now, so reaching $5.61 would be quite a drop. ~a
[2005-08-17 13:08:44] - err, me -dave
[2005-08-17 13:08:39] - lori: nah, looks weird to em too -dave
[2005-08-17 13:08:27] - a: $5.61 not $561 -dave
[2005-08-17 12:30:07] - maybe ~a
[2005-08-17 12:24:40] - a: it's not grey anymore - but the color still looks wierd to me. Maybe it's just my comp... - lori
[2005-08-17 12:13:22] - dave: ha ha! story-oriented engineering! agile development is big on that kind of thing - aaron
[2005-08-17 12:12:05] - dave $561 a share? ~a
[2005-08-17 11:34:02] - Dave: Maybe
-paul[2005-08-17 11:22:03] - Paul: you mean anyone else? ^_^ -dave
[2005-08-17 10:57:14] - Dave: Not sure if anybody is going to get that joke.
-Paul[2005-08-17 10:49:54] - obviously they're behind the times since MTG players have had classification names for awhile ^_^ -dave
[2005-08-17 10:49:27] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/16/AR2005081601906.html Best Buy profiling customers and tailoring each store to a certain group -dave
[2005-08-17 10:06:06] - Google is expected to double its net income this year to $5.61 a share. That's more than tech heavyweights Microsoft Corp. (MSFT: news, chart, profile) , Intel Corp. (INTC: news, chart, profile) , Apple Computer Inc. (AAPL: news, chart, profile) and Cisco Systems Inc. (CSCO: news, chart, profile) are expected to earn -- combined -dave
[2005-08-17 09:58:27] - Pierce: I hadn't seen Transporter 1 so I can't comment on how bad it is, but if you're right about his involvement in the fifth element, then it must've been bad indeed.
-Paul[2005-08-17 09:26:12] -
[2005-08-17 08:55:44] - i hadn't noticed. ~a
[2005-08-17 08:49:57] - a: hehe, your msg board no longer has any color. it's all shades of grey -dave
[2005-08-17 08:43:23] - nope. ~a
[2005-08-17 08:19:49] - a: you're kidding right? - lori
[2005-08-17 08:13:54] - Besson also wrote Unleashed which was another excellent film in a similar vein. But I must agree, "The Transporter" was sub-par for him. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-17 07:38:38] - what do you guys think is an avg salary for a graduating cs undergrad to get in the NoVA area? -dave
[2005-08-17 07:17:27] - pierce: what do you mean? ~a
[2005-08-16 23:19:56] - pierce: ok, now i know i'm not the only one who noticed that.... - mig
[2005-08-16 20:54:48] - so um, why is the message board in glorious black-and-white? - pierce
[2005-08-16 20:53:36] - purists: I know the title's not really "Leon the Professional"... I was using it as a catchall for the international variants of the title. - pierce
[2005-08-16 18:34:48] - btw, both transporters credit Luc Besson (fifth element, leon the professional, la femme nikita) as a writer, which is why I was shocked by the mediocrity of the first one. - pierce
[2005-08-16 18:33:33] - paul: transporter 1 didn't look half bad, and it wasn't. It was about 7/8ths bad. I'm not sure what would be different about this one, but I'll give it a shot if it gets reasonable reviews. Who'da thought Jason Statham would be an action hero-type? - pierce
[2005-08-16 18:33:18] - Phone sex for nerds skit from Saturday Night Live. http://kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=2502&rtn=index-topten -sam
[2005-08-16 18:02:43] - i use, i like. it suits my purposes. - mig
[2005-08-16 17:45:59] - Does anyone use OpenOffice? If so, do you like it? -sam
[2005-08-16 17:18:50] - iostream SUCKS. ~a
[2005-08-16 17:04:34] - a: most people probably just install it using the binary distribution. - mig
[2005-08-16 16:20:47] - mig: basically it seems like nobody in the world is trying to build tomcat as non-root. ~a
[2005-08-16 16:20:28] - mig: for some reason tomcat tries to write over java's license files. why is that? jakarta-tomcat-5/build.xml:1757: cp LICENSE /usr/share/java/LICENSE. glad i didn't run this as root. ~a
[2005-08-16 15:43:06] - Dave: I've seen the preview for it. Doesn't look half bad. -Paul
[2005-08-16 15:19:46] - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388482/ woah, Transporter 2. Didn't know they were makin a sequel -dave
[2005-08-16 15:17:38] - mig: i hate to hyperbolize, but that was the coolest story ever. ~a
[2005-08-16 14:34:50] - dave:
~a[2005-08-16 14:30:43] - http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050816/ap_on_re_us/computer_frenzy oops, link before was bad. - mig
[2005-08-16 14:25:06] - http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050816/ap_on_re_us/computer human stampede at used laptop sale. - mig
[2005-08-16 14:22:13] - dave: oh joy. - lori
[2005-08-16 14:18:30] - http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/15/real_estate/buying_selling/markets_set_to_fizzle/index.htm?cnn=yes woohoo, you made the overpriced housing market list! -dave
[2005-08-16 13:41:37] - Aaron: Heh, same with me. I'm hoping some can overlap.
-Paul[2005-08-16 13:12:27] - paul: guys need 11 friends? uh oh i'm screwed - aaron
[2005-08-16 12:11:24] - Dave: That' pretty respectable of him. I have to say, The more I hear about Roberts, the more I like him. I may not agree with his positions on all (most?) of the issues, but he seems like a genuinely good guy. -Paul
[2005-08-16 12:08:42] - http://www.askmen.com/fashion/austin_100/140b_fashion_style.html 11 Friends Every Guy Needs. -Paul
[2005-08-16 11:58:29] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/15/AR2005081501387.html somewhat amusing article about Roberts memos advising that requests for letters from the President to Michael Jackson be turned down -dave
[2005-08-16 10:03:43] - Dave: I guess Miami looks like the team he'll go to, although I think the Suns and Nuggets might be able to use him more. -Paul
[2005-08-16 09:34:48] - lol. mswindowsupdate just installed and ran mswindowsmessenger. mswindowsupdate also told mswindowsmessenger to run and popup itself every time i bootup my computer in windows. damn you microsoft and your evil tactics to strongarm stupid users into becoming mswindowsmessenger users. ~a
[2005-08-16 09:14:55] - a: creepy! - aaron
[2005-08-16 07:53:21] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050815-5206.html does Google want to be an ISP? -dave
[2005-08-16 07:45:17] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2135306 any bets on where Finley will end up? -dave
[2005-08-15 17:36:48] - a: I guess it's like George trying to charge the doctor a fee for cancelling his appointment less than a day before on Seinfeld. -Paul
[2005-08-15 17:23:07] - pierce: of the 50 flights i've had to or from alabama, 100% of them didn't start boarding until WAY after the boarding time, 98% of them didn't depart until WAY after the departure time, and a good half of them didn't BOARD until AFTER the DEPARTURE time. departure time policies only limit us, the customer, never the airline. ~a
[2005-08-15 17:18:42] - I got to the gate at 8:28 for my 8:35 flight and they wouldn't let me on. I hope those three minutes they wouldn't even have really lost anyway (since I would've gotten seated in less than seven minutes) are worth never voluntarily having me as a customer again. - pierce
[2005-08-15 17:17:33] - note to everybody: united has a policy of closing the aircraft doors and apparently welding them shut ten minutes before takeoff. This is not documented on your ticket anywhere, and is not subject to any checkin irregularities (such as 7/10 self-checkin kiosks being down, causing a huge line). - pierce
[2005-08-15 17:16:03] - glarrrrghenfrrrmph! what an awful day of travel. nine and a half hours to fly somewhere that I could've driven to in four. - pierce
[2005-08-15 17:02:24] - a: We probably were. I still don't understand why some athletes being stupid makes you not want to watch professional sports though. -Paul
[2005-08-15 16:51:45] - paul: oh i think we're talking apples and oranges. i was talking about mike cameron. ~a
[2005-08-15 16:50:51] - I haven't seen much to indicate that he's comically but disappointing stupid. I don't agree with some of his opinions (particularly on the NBA) but he seems to be fairly intelligent. -Paul
[2005-08-15 16:49:11] - s/loveable and funny/comically but disappointingly stupid/ ~a
[2005-08-15 16:46:26] - a: The Sports Guy? But he's so loveable and funny.
-Paul[2005-08-15 16:44:30] - paul: that is reason number 268 why i don't watch professional sports. ~a
[2005-08-15 16:42:05] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/quotes/archive "The sun has been there for 500, 600 years ... " -Paul
[2005-08-15 16:28:20] - they'd probably fire me. ~a
[2005-08-15 16:28:06] - i'm wondering who would get mad if i stripped down to my boxers. ~a
[2005-08-15 16:27:36] - mig: that's the problem. most days at work, the ac is set at ~45 degrees. so i come in wearing long sleeved shirts and long pants. today the ac is set at ~80 degrees so i'm dying. ~a
[2005-08-15 16:23:24] - a: try turning on the ac. - mig
[2005-08-15 16:22:10] - *** a oinks.
[2005-08-15 16:17:13] - a: oink? - lori
[2005-08-15 15:41:16] - i am sweating like a stuffed pig. ~a
[2005-08-15 15:30:13] - mig: In fact, I think the Heat are at best the third best team in the east for next year. As for the west, what teams are going to beat the Pistons or the Heat besides the Spurs? -Paul
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