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[2005-08-26 13:32:55] - mig: well from one point of view, he's probably much more for conservative policies than a liberal candidate would have been -dave
[2005-08-26 13:25:52] - mig: i agree. it's funny -- and it's sad. -amy
[2005-08-26 13:22:23] - i mean, it's absolutely hilarious how groups like the afa bitch and moan about potty-mouth movies and music and at the same time hail bush as the second coming. - mig
[2005-08-26 13:18:10] - Xpovos: Yes, that was my intention all along. Clearly.
-Paul[2005-08-26 13:17:37] - amy: oh don't get me wrong, i don't really care if the president does swear or flip the bird. i just find it funny that this is the same person that the christian right reveres as a "good christian man". - mig
[2005-08-26 13:16:08] - OK, not that i wasn't frightened enough already, but: all too typical of an alcohol-abusing bully who is ruled by fear. This about our president? That's scary. -amy
[2005-08-26 13:14:47] - xpovos: i noticed that. how weird, huh? ~a
[2005-08-26 13:13:41] - mig: heh, it's not like we don't all use cuss words but for the president (and for britney spears) it would probably be more wise not to do things like flip the bird where people can snap photos of it. .) -amy
[2005-08-26 13:11:55] - a: yes i have also done AC, and i have tried very loud singing but i think AC works better somehow. .) -amy
[2005-08-26 13:05:48] - Paul: here's a reason for you to claim that you linked to page 2. Page two doesn't require a login to see. Page 1 does. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-26 12:59:54] - amy: i do the AC thing too when i'm driving and aaron once said that he did the screaming thing (it's never worked for me) ~a
[2005-08-26 12:59:22] - http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_7267.shtml somehow i'm less than surprised bush has a big potty mouth. - mig
[2005-08-26 12:54:54] - lori: my sister says on road trips when she is falling asleep she turns on the AC too cold and screams as loud as she can. prob not going to work at your office though .) -amy
[2005-08-26 12:53:56] - lori: water can help sometimes. esp. cold water. run around the office a few times .p loud music (headphones?) yeah not that i ever have this problem... -amy
[2005-08-26 12:42:36] - sooo tired. any ideas, short of caffienne, to help me keep my head off my desk? - lori
[2005-08-26 12:25:53] - a: Ah, good point. I should've linked to page one, eh? -Paul
[2005-08-26 12:16:26] - paul: you linked to page 2? ~a
[2005-08-26 12:04:30] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/25/AR2005082501818_2.html "Kill the whiteness inside". I think it's funny that I can't figure out if the people that are quoted LIKE this movement or think it's offensive.
-Paul[2005-08-26 11:48:02] - http://www.polandspring-rivalry.com/faceoff.asp I don't think this is a fair competition. Vote for the cute girl.... or the fat guy.
-Paul[2005-08-26 11:27:40] - a: Vox might come close, but I don't think he is nearly well-known enough to count and he considers himself more of a libertarian anyway (and I would tend to agree). -Paul
[2005-08-26 11:25:14] - a: Yes, and I've always said that Ann Coulter is one of the few conservatives I know who can match the typical media-liberal in terms of that kind of talk. -Paul
[2005-08-26 11:22:55] - i took the side that i know nothing about roberts. ~a
[2005-08-26 11:22:37] - "The only way a Supreme Court nominee could win the approval of NARAL and Planned Parenthood would be to actually perform an abortion during his confirmation hearing, live, on camera, and preferably a partial birth one." paul: don't you usually bash libs for hyperbole? ~a
[2005-08-26 11:22:22] - a: I actually don't recall us talking much about Roberts. Which side did you take?
-Paul[2005-08-26 11:21:02] - paul: hadn't we already talked about this? "Stealth nominees have never turned out to be a pleasant surprise for conservatives. Never. Not ever." ~a
[2005-08-26 11:16:31] - i find it interesting. maybe the wnd folks deserve a little more credit than i've given them. - mig
[2005-08-26 11:09:19] - http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45363 I might be the only person who finds this interesting, but it seems like Ann Coulter does not approve of John Roberts' Supreme Court Nomination. -paul
[2005-08-26 10:15:06] - a: note to self, never "source .bash_history"
[2005-08-26 10:11:56] - paul: booooo, what pussies red sox management is. - mig
[2005-08-26 10:08:59] - http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/4808948 Red Sox doing away with 'Yankees Suck' shirts. -Paul
[2005-08-26 10:08:53] - a: that's the story. - mig
[2005-08-26 10:03:37] - a: No problem. It's a mistake I almost made myself yesterday. -Paul
[2005-08-26 09:59:01] - mig: where's the rest of the story? ~a
[2005-08-26 09:58:09] - paul: thank you
~a[2005-08-26 09:57:57] - dave_xpovos: heh. i was confusing the purple "xpovos" with the purple "dave". ~a
[2005-08-26 09:57:25] - a: That was Andrew. Their colors are the same. -Paul
[2005-08-26 09:52:59] - http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050826/ap_on_fe_st/smoking_chimp chinese chimp handlers trying to get chimp to quit smoking. - mig
[2005-08-26 09:33:38] - http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?siteid=mktw&guid=%7BAF27981B-E1C3-4FDF-8D57-AAF5AA744838%7D& hehe, Atari sells unit called Humongous Entertainment Studio -dave
[2005-08-26 09:04:02] - a: eh? I didn't say anything about moving to quantico -dave
[2005-08-26 09:03:34] - it says this "move south to the self-contained Fort Belvoir in Fairfax County and the Quantico Marine Corps base in Prince William." -dave
[2005-08-26 09:03:16] - dave: you want to move to quantico? ick. ~a
[2005-08-26 09:03:10] - a: I think they were maintly talking about Arlington, but put down that Arlington (along with Alexandria) was going to lose 20k jobs. Although, if Ft Belvoir really is part of Alexandria you wouldn't think they would exactly be losing jobs -dave
[2005-08-26 08:35:49] - Yeah, people seem to be confused about the makeup of the Washington D.C. area. Anyway, this is good news for me. Time to get back to applying for jobs at Quantico. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-26 08:30:55] - a: <shrug> just repeating what the article said -dave
[2005-08-26 08:15:34] - wait wait wait. fort belvoir IS alexandria. ~a
[2005-08-26 07:52:07] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/25/AR2005082501715.html 20k defense related jobs moving from Arlington/Alexandria to Fort Belvoir/Quantico -dave
[2005-08-26 07:44:48] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/25/rare.coins.ap/index.html US mint seizes 10 double eagle coins after being asked to authenticate them -dave
[2005-08-26 07:42:46] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/25/motel.killings.ap/index.html 15 year old girl robs and murders two men -dave
[2005-08-26 07:19:49] - mig: posted an article on that earlier =p -dave
[2005-08-26 07:19:22] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2141490 down to Miami, Phoenix, and San Antonio for Finley -dave
[2005-08-25 17:23:03] - vinnie: correct - lori
[2005-08-25 16:07:35] - http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=9463750&src=rss/oddlyEnoughNews no good can come from this. - mig
[2005-08-25 15:51:00] - lori: so I am not needed anymore? I assume that's what your call was about (sorry, was in meeting) - vinnie
[2005-08-25 15:45:33] - mig: Why thank you.
-Paul[2005-08-25 15:42:50] - heh, crap sorry, hit enter by accident. -amy
[2005-08-25 15:42:26] - y
[2005-08-25 15:42:26] - is that adrian kissing aaron? the triangle is complete
[2005-08-25 15:42:18] - paul: that was pretty bad. - mig
[2005-08-25 15:42:15] - *** amy squints at a's emoticon.
[2005-08-25 15:40:34] - a: Get it? "a" weight. -Paul
[2005-08-25 15:40:08] - a: That's a weight off my shoulders. -Paul
[2005-08-25 15:33:31] - aaron:
~a[2005-08-25 15:33:25] - for anyone who's curious, aaron (aaron the great i shall call him) agreed to pick me up ~a
[2005-08-25 15:28:29] - *** a washes his hands
[2005-08-25 15:25:06] - a: ok call vinnie and/or aaron... I wash my hands
- lori[2005-08-25 15:10:57] - i can go at 4:30 today, i don't care. i've done my work for today now. ~a
[2005-08-25 15:10:23] - ok, i'm here. what's up? ~a
[2005-08-25 14:12:15] - lori: heh, i can pick him up if he wants to go to tyson's after work and sit through a meeting with me ^_^ poor timing -- sorry i couldn't help out this week. -amy
[2005-08-25 14:09:35] - mig - alexandria. Don't worry about it. I'll call vinnie in a bit and if he can't - i really can. we'll just be rather late. - lori
[2005-08-25 14:02:59] - wait, where does he work. i thought it was in mclean but i have a feeling i might be wrong about that. - mig
[2005-08-25 13:55:19] - i can drive him if he gets off of work around 5pm. - mig
[2005-08-25 12:34:31] - aaron: thanks, but i think he has a pretty full workday. i'll let you know if i hear otherwise. I really appreciate it though! l ori
[2005-08-25 12:29:06] - lori: I can also pick up adrian if he wants to show up really early (~4:30) - aaron
[2005-08-25 11:01:15] - vinnie: can you call me? i can give you directions - it sounds like adrian is _very_ busy at the moment. - lori
[2005-08-25 10:51:08] - vinnie: only if it's not that out of your way. I don't mind doing it - it's just that he doesn't have a car because he's getting mine fixed and I didn't want him to miss out because he's doing me a favor. - lori
[2005-08-25 10:44:34] - oops, live = work
[2005-08-25 10:44:28] - lori: he doesn't live that far from SF mall right? I can pick him up - vinnie
[2005-08-25 10:07:38] - amy: nuts, i was going to ask if you could pick up adrian... Is anyone else coming from out his way? I didn't want him to miss out on DDR more than he has to and I'm already always late... - lori
[2005-08-25 09:54:53] - ddr_people: no ddr for me today but i can hang out after! -amy
[2005-08-25 09:42:11] - mig: <nod> or at least with the knowledge we have. I'm sure there are tons of people where we would agree it would also be justified, but the intel's just classified or we don't know it etc -dave
[2005-08-25 09:23:12] - dave: i don't disagree about bin laden. probably right now he's the only case where an assasination would be considered justified. - mig
[2005-08-25 09:16:05] - mig: or assassinating osama bin laden could be construed as self-defense -dave
[2005-08-25 09:15:34] - mig: well, not that this is the case with Chavez, but assassinating someone in another country who is trying to launch an ICBM attack against the US would be self-defense IMO -dave
[2005-08-25 08:55:53] - regardless i find it humorous he was apoligizing for calling for an assasination after whining to news outlets that his quotes were "misinterperted". - mig
[2005-08-25 08:51:45] - i really odn't see how killing some guy who lives a thousand miles away could be considered an act of self-defense by any stretch of the imagination. - mig
[2005-08-25 08:46:04] - "At the same time, Robertson continued to argue that Chavez is a danger to the United States and to suggest that assassinations are not always immoral." i don't remember jesus ever saying that...... - mig
[2005-08-25 08:35:33] - dave: and don't get me wrong, i don't feel all the spectacular about having to pay for his security detail either (or just about anything else that he spends our money on.) - mig
[2005-08-25 08:34:18] - xpovos: i'm not shocked by it at all. but it does piss me off quite a bit. - mig
[2005-08-25 08:22:31] - I'm still amazed high(er) gas prices come to shock to anybody. Or that we pay for the President's gas consumption. Some things just seem obvious to me. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-25 08:01:38] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082401470.html Robertson apologizes -dave
[2005-08-25 08:00:24] - mig: paying the secret service agents around him alone I'm sure is several orders of magnitude higher -dave
[2005-08-25 08:00:01] - mig: I'm sure the gas bill is miniscule compared to other things, like his security bill -dave
[2005-08-25 07:59:14] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082401362.html vote for panda cub's name -dave
[2005-08-25 07:56:34] - ok, so let me get this straight. not only do we have to pay higher gas prices because of bush's illegal war, not only do we have to subsidize gas for iraqis, we also have to pay for this fucker's obscene gas bill? fan-fucking-tastic! - mig
[2005-08-25 07:56:25] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082402318.html hackers attack US through Chinese websites -dave
[2005-08-25 07:52:12] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/08/24/bush.gas.guzzlers.ap/index.html Presidential travel takes a lotta gas. No kidding, who in their right mind is going to fault this? -dave
[2005-08-25 07:46:02] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/producer.death.ap/index.html man has heart attack and collapses on his 9-year old daughter, suffocating her -dave
[2005-08-25 07:37:02] - paul: it's too bad you don't get dates on some of the quotes, because you wonder whether her opinion has changed on some of them -dave
[2005-08-24 21:17:08] - a: btw, what's the beef with java? it's got its downsides i know but it suits my purposes a lot more i'm finding than php and perl do now. - mig
[2005-08-24 18:14:12] - Pierce: I guess it's possible. I was just shocked when I read that because it certainly LOOKS like she pays a lot of attention to her body in terms of diet and exercise. -paul
[2005-08-24 18:06:49] - Paul: she might be anorexic or bulemic... the quote doesn't address those possibilities. I hope not, though... I hope she just has an excellent metabolism. Maybe she plays lots of sports? Those wouldn't necessarily be classified as "going to the gym". - pierce
[2005-08-24 17:56:52] - http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Keira_Knightley "I don't think about nutrition. The very thought of a diet makes me want chips and ice cream. And I just hate going to the gym. I cannot stand it." Is anybody else highly skeptical? -Paul
[2005-08-24 16:03:52] - http://www.google.com/talk/ google IM client... need to have a gmail account. Anyone else curious? Add me if you sign up, my account is firstname.lastname @ gmail. - pierce
[2005-08-24 15:48:39] - Dave: True, but they didn't. And it's not like Miami was terrible before Shaq arrived either. If I recall correctly, they made the playoffs the year before. So for all the attention they got in the press, they weren't a whole lot better. -Paul
[2005-08-24 15:47:16] - Xpovos: Having not had any Russian cuisine that I can recall, I must agree.
-Paul[2005-08-24 15:45:57] - mmm, Yum Yum -dave
[2005-08-24 15:41:23] - Paul: to give them credit though, the Heat almost did make it to the championships though -dave
[2005-08-24 15:36:46] - Paul: Good point, they cook better. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 15:27:54] - But everybody always seems to forget Detroit and Indiana. Barring another crippling brawl, I'll put my money on one of those teams representing the east instead of Miami. -Paul
[2005-08-24 15:27:14] - Dave: I don't know about the whole "Pat hates Stan" thing, but I agree with the premise that the Heat aren't necessarily this monstrously good team all of a sudden. Everybody picked them as the favorites in the east last year and everybody is doing it again for next year. -Paul
[2005-08-24 15:16:38] - http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=bucher_ric&id=2140182 Heat critique -dave
[2005-08-24 14:59:38] - xpovos: try sharapova ^_^ -dave
[2005-08-24 14:50:22] - Xpovos: Thailand. Yum yum. -Paul
[2005-08-24 14:48:14] - Dave: Right, my speeding ticket was 4.25 years ago. The accident was only 2.5, so that'll hurt more longer, but I'm hoping the 25-y.o. bonus helps. Or maybe I can find some Russian girl who wants citizenship and get the marriage bonus. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 14:39:38] - Dave: They all sound decently acceptable to me. -Paul
[2005-08-24 14:32:48] - http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B0997E17C%2D9E50%2D41CE%2D9C2A%2DE1FCE52FC277%7D&siteid=mktw&dist= Greenspan replacements -dave
[2005-08-24 14:16:59] - starting PHD salary is probably 80-150k -dave
[2005-08-24 14:15:27] - it's slightly more of a computer engineering field though - even though all they probably do is code -dave
[2005-08-24 14:14:34] - like my advisor in grad school had plenty of students who went to work in companies doing testing and verification and got paid 80-100k right off the bat -dave
[2005-08-24 14:13:33] - sam: I dunno, wouldn't be surprised if that was starting. But you have to be someone that peeps are actively trying to recruit -dave
[2005-08-24 14:09:18] - dave: how many years of experience do u need to make more than $150,000 a year as a programmer? -sam
[2005-08-24 14:08:01] - Xpovos: $450 still sounds like too much for me, but it's at least closer to what I think is reasonable so I probably won't complain as much. -Paul
[2005-08-24 14:06:32] - xpovos: geico asked for info for the past 5 years tho - even tho the dmv only keeps track for the past 3 -dave
[2005-08-24 14:05:49] - sam: you didn't read the google article? "A sought-after computer programmer can now expect to make more than $150,000 a year." -dave
[2005-08-24 14:05:32] - past the statute of limitations -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 14:05:25] - Paul: Yes, your insurance (and esp. mine) should come down next year. But I don't think you can expect reasonable rates, from what I've seen anytime soon. If you're only paying ~600 now, you may get as low as 450, but that's pretty much your floor. I'm hoping to knock a few hundred off mine next year as I turn 25, and the speeding ticket goes...
[2005-08-24 14:02:52] - Xpovos: I don't mind paying what I consider to be a lot now because I've been told it should go down when I reach 25 years old. -Paul
[2005-08-24 14:02:22] - a: I agree, but it still sucks that they have no way of telling who is actually a decent driver and who is a bad one over who are lucky and who are not. -Paul
[2005-08-24 14:01:10] - What do you guys think is the most money you can make as an IT professional (programmer, network engineer, etc)? And how many years of experience do you think you will need? -sam
[2005-08-24 14:01:10] - Xpovos: See, I always thought the only guaranteed money was the signing bonus and that the salary could be ended as soon as the team cut a player. Of course, I hardly know what I'm talking about so you're probably right.
-Paul[2005-08-24 13:59:21] - Paul: I agree. I don't mind paying more. For now. I mind paying this much because I know there are much worse drivers than me (in terms of accidents and tickets). And yet I'm still at the very high end. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:57:34] - sam: other options include become a lawyer, become a doctor, win the lottery, and play the stockmarket ^_^ -dave
[2005-08-24 13:57:31] - Paul: I'm not entirely sure, but I think they still get the salaried money then, it just doesn't got against the cap. But they won't get incentives, and likely have to pay back a portion of their signing bonus (if any). -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:57:03] - paul: plenty of horrible drivers are able to just barely squeek by without getting tickets or accidents (like me!). therefore, there's a bunch of first time claims so insurance companies must also charge a bunch of money (but obviously less) to people who have clean records. ~a
[2005-08-24 13:56:19] - Dave: I will admit to being quite unlucky with cars. I had my car about 5 weeks when I got rear-ended. That didn't go on the record though, because I was struck in the rear as I pulled over to let an ambulance past. Not even GEICO will mess with me on that -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:56:11] - $225,000 minimum salary for a rookie in the NFL... I will probably never make that kind of money unless I become an executive of a company or own a business... -sam
[2005-08-24 13:54:03] - Sam: The NFL salary situation is really crazy, though. I don't pretend to know how it works, but I'm guessing that a lot of players don't see all the money from their salaries. Teams have a lot of power to cut people and just end contracts when they want. -paul
[2005-08-24 13:52:26] - Xpovos: Honestly, though, if you're going to charge anybody a lot of money for car insurance, I think it makes more sense to charge those with the tickets and the accidents than those with the clean record. -paul
[2005-08-24 13:51:42] - The minimum salary scale in NFL. http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayton_john/1210115.html They make a lot of money... -sam
[2005-08-24 13:51:36] - Xpovos: I'm guessing you also drive more than I do (which makes a difference), have a more expensive (and newer and likely sportier) car and might possibly also live in a higher insurance cost area than Reston. I agree that 2x sounds a little high, though. -Paul
[2005-08-24 13:51:02] - xpovos: yeah, I'm with you, I don't really agree with them -dave
[2005-08-24 13:50:40] - xpovos: statistics probably back it up too - meaning, someone who has gotten into one accident is probably a lot more likely to cost them money in the future than someone who hasn't been in any (not that you in particular would) -dave
[2005-08-24 13:50:04] - Grr... wasn't even my fault. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:49:20] - Dave: anon was me, ran out of room. I can handle the argument that small companies can be more innovative than big ones, but I definitely don't see it as a requirement. And Google hiring lots of smart people indicates to me that it's very open to innovation. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:49:18] - xpovos: don't think the speeding tickets make that big a diff. the accident probably does though - and unfortunately I'm not too surprised it makes it 2x -dave
[2005-08-24 13:48:07] - Paul: Tickets (2) Speeding [getting close to dropping off] , Following too closely. Accidents (1) The following too closely issue. So yeah, I expect to pay more than someone with a clean record, like you. But 2x? -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:44:58] - So it can be hard to define what it means to say that you play in the NFL. -Paul
[2005-08-24 13:44:24] - Dave: I guess it kinda depends on the context. There are stories of people who are in and out of the NFL though. I think just last year the eagles signed some guy who was driving trucks to a contract for a few games. -Paul
[2005-08-24 13:43:29] - Dave: Still, unless he is a starter or a young back-up who people think is eventually going to start, his job probably isn't too secure. -Paul
[2005-08-24 13:42:50] - Paul: yeah, I could see that - i just wouldn't have thought those people counted when you say that someone "plays in the NFL" -dave
[2005-08-24 13:40:16] - paul: my cousin's husband didn't last too long due to injury. - mig
[2005-08-24 13:40:05] - Xpovos: How many accidents/tickets are on your record, though? -Paul
[2005-08-24 13:39:01] - Dave: A lot of players don't last too long after being drafted. I thought it was low too when I heard it (and I suppose it could be wrong) but it sounds reasonable when you think that a bunch of low round picks probably only last a couple of months at most. -Paul
[2005-08-24 13:38:18] - anon: I don't agree with them, but I think they're viewpoint is that less innovation happens at large corporations than small startup companies. so if the large companies hire all the really smart people, less innovation happens -dave
[2005-08-24 13:37:31] - xpovos: ahh because state farm gave me a quote that was around that. I was flabbergasted -dave
[2005-08-24 13:37:16] - "("Google is doing more damage to innovation in the Valley right now than Microsoft ever did," said Reid Hoffman, the founder of two Internet ventures, including LinkedIn, a business networking Web site popular among Silicon Valley's digerati. "It's largely that they're hiring up so many talented people")" WTF?! How is that harming innovation?
[2005-08-24 13:36:21] - xpovos: I was thinking "playing in the NFL" meant actually playing, or being a reserve, not being weeded out in a training camp -dave
[2005-08-24 13:35:52] - xpovos: ohhh, you're counting people who never actually end up playing -dave
[2005-08-24 13:35:49] - Dave: Yes. I have GEICO, and pay ~1200 every 6 months. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:35:30] - xpovos: yeah, but I just think of people starting after college and lasting awhile. Even if it's only till they're like 30, that's still like 5-6 years. I know there are injuries etc, but I still would have thought more -dave
[2005-08-24 13:35:17] - But, yeah, 3 years is the reported average. Which makes sense, since many don't even complete their first year. Training camps, and the fairly small roster weed most people out. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:34:26] - xpovos: wait, it's double, and you use Geico? -dave
[2005-08-24 13:34:18] - Dave: depends on position, too. You can spend a lot of seasons as Bret Favre's backup pulling in a nice paycheck and doing absolutely nothing -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:33:33] - paul: just three years? I would have thought longer -dave
[2005-08-24 13:33:13] - xpovos: very true. he flies her out there to see him though -dave
[2005-08-24 13:32:46] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/08/24/military.laser.reut/index.html laser guns on aircraft? maybe soon -dave
[2005-08-24 13:31:07] - Paul: for comparison's sake my insurance (despite coming down this past 6-mo period) is still just a touch shy of double yours. Slightly newer car, minimums on all required insurance. GEICO (everyone else is more). Go me. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:30:22] - Dave: Hmmm, ok. One thing to keep in mind, though, is that the average length of an NFL career is like three years or something so even though lots of players make a lot of money, that money has to last the rest of their lives OR they need to find another source of income afterwards. -Paul
[2005-08-24 13:29:57] - Plus dating != marriage. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 13:26:39] - paul: nope, it didn't sound like she really wanted to elaborate so i didn't push -dave
[2005-08-24 13:17:48] - Dave: Any idea what position or how many years of experience or anything? -Paul
[2005-08-24 13:15:09] - paul: dunno, didn't ask his name. think he's in tennessee though -dave
[2005-08-24 13:13:11] - of course even though they assure it's easy to do, they provide no guidance on what to actually do. - mig
[2005-08-24 13:11:47] - Dave: Depends on which NFL player it is.
-Paul[2005-08-24 13:10:23] - a: actually, according to the mysql forums i can somehow change the source of the mysql jdbc connector to not use tcp/ip sockets. but yes, it's because java has no native support for unix domain sockets. - mig
[2005-08-24 13:06:35] - http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B0D298D7F%2D6217%2D4DED%2DB192%2DEBF9AAB7D96B%7D&siteid=mktw&dist= hey, you guys are having an impact on stock -dave
[2005-08-24 12:55:49] - hehe, I just met this girl at lunch who apparently is dating an NFL player. This guy in our group was like, why on earth are you working if you're going to be married to an NFL player -dave
[2005-08-24 12:12:57] - Dave: I don't necessarily disagree, I'm just saying that I feel like some people could find the article to be controversial. -paul
[2005-08-24 12:05:44] - Paul: well, I think you could send them to other schools for other reasons - like simply choosing the school that has the best academics, regardless of whether it is inner city or not - but I would think that it's fairly irrefutable that not sending your kids there is detrimental to their integration -dave
[2005-08-24 11:59:43] - a: One country indivisible? -paul
[2005-08-24 11:59:01] - Dave: Mainly how he implies that not wanting to send your kids to an inner city school is equivalent to not wanting to integrate the public schools. -Paul
[2005-08-24 11:58:59] - paul: yeah, what do you mean? the one country indivisible? ~a
[2005-08-24 11:54:08] - Paul: what exactly? -dave
[2005-08-24 11:53:35] - "It's hard to believe it, but 10 short years ago today saw the launch of Windows '95 ... As part of the launch, Microsoft paid $12,000,000 for the rights to use the Rolling Stones' song "Start Me Up" (containing the prophetic line 'You make a grown man cry'). "
~a[2005-08-24 11:53:01] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/08/24/sony.psp.reut/index.html sony adds web-browser to PSP -dave
[2005-08-24 11:44:14] - it's because you're using java, isn't it? ~a
[2005-08-24 11:42:04] - Dave: I suspect others would think that some of the stuff in the article (particularly at the end) is controversial and wrong. -Paul
[2005-08-24 11:40:33] - Dave: I think lots of people just dislike anybody or anything that is too popular (regarding google being the bad guy). -Paul
[2005-08-24 11:39:50] - god how i knew you were going to ask that question. ~a
[2005-08-24 11:34:48] - a: is it going to be too much to ask to allow mysql to accept tcp/ip socket connections. i don't think it's much of a security issue as long as it's restricted to accept them only from localhost. - mig
[2005-08-24 11:23:15] - Paul: i don't really see anything that surprising or controversial about that article -dave
[2005-08-24 11:15:51] - http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/technology/24valley.html?hp&ex=1124942400&en=e92eec83a68ff448&ei=5094&partner=homepage Relax, Bill Gates; It's Google's Turn as the Villain -dave
[2005-08-24 11:10:01] - http://www.fredoneverything.net/Slavery2.shtml I thought this was a fairly insightful look at slavery and race, but others might disagree. -Paul
[2005-08-24 11:06:31] - mig: it's not a nightmare. php does it automatically. ~a
[2005-08-24 10:57:19] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/24/dutch.sperm.reut/index.html yeesh, reality show where woman searches for a sperm donor among candidates -dave
[2005-08-24 10:54:53] - a: and yeah, php has native support for unix sockets, but it's an absolute nightmare to have to maintain. - mig
[2005-08-24 10:54:01] - a: ok, i understand the socket issue now. sorry for being a retard. - mig
[2005-08-24 10:25:47] - Dave: Gotcha. Makes sense to me. -Paul
[2005-08-24 10:24:14] - paul: or even say, your jobs vs mine. You probably don't have many, if any subcontractors for stuff you do. So if your job relocated, would probably be just you. Stuff I work with has tons of subcontractors, so if my job moved, we might subcontract to peeps in our new area vs this one -dave
[2005-08-24 10:21:51] - paul: I guess I was trying to point out the difference than say losing 20k manufacturing jobs, which generally would just be 20k jobs. -dave
[2005-08-24 10:21:00] - dave: i agree that contractors for the dod subcontract much more than other contractors in the private industry. ~a
[2005-08-24 10:19:46] - paul: I guess stuff like that isn't limited to defense work, but more that defense work tends to be that way -dave
[2005-08-24 10:18:55] - paul: it may not, since plenty of people subcontract to people far away from them, but people also like having people close to them too <shrug> -dave
[2005-08-24 10:18:19] - Paul: well, I guess what I meant is that generally defense contracts are rather large, so they require a given company to subcontract a decent bit. So if many of those 20-30k jobs are from companies near the top of the contracting chain, they may take more jobs/business with them than just the work they personally do -dave
[2005-08-24 09:51:32] - Dave: How exactly does defense work trickle down any more than normal jobs? -Paul
[2005-08-24 09:50:38] - Xpovos: Yeah, I was stating six month quotes. -Paul
[2005-08-24 09:42:45] - mig: i have to go. but i will mention this off hand, i have a bad feeling that you're going to be not using php. php (and perl, c++, python, shell scripting, and many others) are wonderful languages because they support named sockets. ~a
[2005-08-24 09:36:45] - mig: your old webpage used it just fine. nucleus/libs/globalfunctions.php: $connection = @mysql_connect($MYSQL_HOST, $MYSQL_USER, $MYSQL_PASSWORD) ~a
[2005-08-24 09:35:16] - mig: run mysql -u miguel -p ~a
[2005-08-24 09:34:40] - a: i cannot read the file. period. cannot vim or cat it. of course if i wasn't a retard and knew how to use netstat... - mig
[2005-08-24 09:34:05] - it's a socket, not a file. catting it won't do you any good. ~a
[2005-08-24 09:33:04] - mig: how so? ~a
[2005-08-24 09:28:10] - a: your computer disagrees. - mig
[2005-08-24 09:24:20] - mig: sure you do. srwxrwx--- mysql mysqlsock /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ~a
[2005-08-24 09:21:51] - xpovos: you still might be right that it won't affect things that much tho -dave
[2005-08-24 09:21:16] - xpovos: and on top of the contractor work, there's the other incidental things as well. Like if VA Tech or UVA relocated, a large portion of the area would die, not just the university -dave
[2005-08-24 09:21:10] - no read permission to mysqld.sock
- mig[2005-08-24 09:19:44] - xpovos: how many of those jobs are related to DoD work though? Defense work kinda trickles down and affects like everything -dave
[2005-08-24 09:16:06] - mig: nope. /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock. ~a
[2005-08-24 09:13:58] - xpovos: yes. 6mo. ~a
[2005-08-24 09:11:54] - Paul: Are you and adrian comparing 6-mo quotes? If so I'm getting ripped. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 09:11:45] - a: is the mysql server on your machine running on port 3306? - mig
[2005-08-24 09:07:41] - I really don't think of Fort Belvoir as a military base in an 'outlying suburb'. Any according to the latest job indecies I've read, we're supposed to get 1.6M new jobs over the next 20 years (non-military) which makes the shuffle of 20-30K really insignificant. -- Xpovos
[2005-08-24 08:37:14] - "The Pentagon has adopted anti-terrorism standards that will require leased sites to be set back at least 82 feet from surrounding traffic, citing the threat of truck bombs. The rule will take effect this fall, and virtually no leased sites in the region satisfy it." -dave
[2005-08-24 08:36:49] - "The District, Arlington and Alexandria stand to lose about 30,000 jobs by 2011...including 23,000 workers in...Northern Virginia. Maryland and Virginia would gain more than 20,000 jobs on military bases in outlying suburbs, including Fort Belvoir, Fort Meade and Aberdeen Proving Ground" -dave
[2005-08-24 08:34:42] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/23/AR2005082301537.html Sen. Warner challenging base closings -dave
[2005-08-24 08:11:42] - http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/08/23/japan.supersonic.ap/index.html Japan to test supersonic jet. Travels at twice the speed of sound - would make Japan to LA take 4 hours -dave
[2005-08-24 07:26:10] - although it was published in the opinion section - and yet at the same time it says "us" instead of "me" or something of that sort -dave
[2005-08-24 07:25:25] - that from a NYTimes article on the editor publishing an intelligent design paper -dave
[2005-08-24 07:25:11] - "But those who see no place for intelligent design in the realm of science - and that includes us - will ruefully give him credit for maneuvering a brief for intelligent design into a peer-reviewed scientific journal, although how rigorous that review was remains a point of contention." -dave
[2005-08-23 23:38:57] - sam: ha ha! bean bag!
[2005-08-23 23:17:51] - pierce: yeah, was it "wow" because of the article or the author? ~a
[2005-08-23 23:13:39] - pierce: wow indeed. also did you see who the article was written by? - vinnie
[2005-08-23 22:14:52] - sam: not really. that's why they were cups. - mig
[2005-08-23 21:49:50] - OWNED! OUCH! http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~raza/owned-baseball.jpg -sam
[2005-08-23 16:52:44] - wow. - pierce
[2005-08-23 16:47:37] - paul: yeah, there ya go -dave
[2005-08-23 16:04:08] - miguel, you're not supposed to be compassionate to heathens.... don't you know anything?
- pierce[2005-08-23 15:59:17] - Interesting. It seems like changing my address and driving habits reduces my quote to $545.10... -Paul
[2005-08-23 15:35:34] - paul: then don't complain to us that your insurance is too high (j/k) ~a
[2005-08-23 15:30:31] - http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050823/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_robertson_assassination pat robertson reminds us again just how big of a compassionate christian he is. - mig
[2005-08-23 15:27:14] - Dave: Well, mine costs $619 total. I also have mechanical breakdown insurance or something. -Paul
[2005-08-23 15:23:16] - paul: so what you complaining about? -dave
[2005-08-23 15:23:06] - paul: I don't get it, when you add your numbers up, you get $577, that's the same -dave
[2005-08-23 15:20:59] - Bodily $25,000 / $50,000 $112.30 Property $20,000 $118.90 Personal Injury Option A $11.30 Uninsured Motorist Bodily $25,000 / $50,000 $7.40 Uninsured Motorist Property $20,000 limit / $250 ded $1.80 Comprehensive(COMP) $500 ded $71.40 Collision(COLL) $500 ded $251.20 -dave
[2005-08-23 15:19:10] - Maybe I should go through the stuff and make some changes. Because I do travel a lot shorter distance to work now. -Paul
[2005-08-23 15:18:32] - Dave: Wonderful.
-Paul[2005-08-23 15:17:50] - paul: I take it back, putting in your numbers, I get $574 -dave
[2005-08-23 15:15:30] - paul: if it makes you feel any better, I think for the same coverage as you, I'd probably have to pay more -dave
[2005-08-23 15:15:15] - a: yeah, the amt of driving may be what the diff. was. -dave
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