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[2007-04-02 21:56:22] - as for the spirit of the game, that's subjective... I was operating under the assumption that the game was about connecting things topically, using wikipedia as a reference.  connecting things wikipedially is just as valid a game, we were just talking about two different games :) - pierce

[2007-04-02 21:54:08] - aaron: "random" isn't metadata, but it's outside the spectrum of what that article is about, just like "here's a list of things that get confused with what we're talking about" - pierce

[2007-04-02 21:12:26] - ehehe you can get from "bacon" to "kevin bacon" through a disambiguation page - aaron

[2007-04-02 21:07:25] - "random article" is metadata? I don't know what you mean. I don't think going from Prince (royalty) to Prince (disambiguation) to Prince (music artist) is that iffy, it uses 2 steps and it seems like a sound connection to me, it seems like it's in the spirit of the game - aaron

[2007-04-02 21:05:50] - pierce: hahaha. that's pretty great - aaron

[2007-04-02 21:02:32] - pirece:  nope.  i used up all my luck.  ~a

[2007-04-02 18:26:41] - a: wow, how convenient and not at all suspicious! one in about 1.7 million chance, you should go play the lottery. - pierce

[2007-04-02 18:09:50] - pierce:  i was even luckier:  Normative -> (random) Kevin Bacon.  ~a

[2007-04-02 18:03:37] - argh, my brain... alanis morissette covers "My Humps": http://youtube.com/watch?v=W91sqAs-_-g (it's actually pretty funny) - pierce

[2007-04-02 17:51:22] - although I'll admit it was blind luck that I happened to get a film-related random article :) - pierce

[2007-04-02 17:50:49] - like, I got Normative -> (random) Dunia Ayaso and Félix Sabroso -> Film director -> Oliver Stone -> JFK (film) -> Kevin Bacon. - pierce

[2007-04-02 17:44:54] - aaron: one could argue that using a disambiguation page is invalid, since that link is metadata (like using the search box or "random article" - pierce

[2007-04-02 16:49:05] - dav: wow, that does suck .( -amy

[2007-04-02 16:43:07] - paul: yeah, i'm sad =/ it's like 40% of my income to taxes -dave

[2007-04-02 16:41:11] - self-employment taxes -amy

[2007-04-02 16:41:05] - I have to pay taxes on money I have not yet made (not to mention WITH money that I have not yet made), thanks to quarterly

[2007-04-02 16:32:20] - Dave: On top of federal taxes? Ouch. You might as well not invest it at all. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-02 16:24:37] - man, I can't believe MD gets a cut out of my capital gains. A whopping 7.8% -dave

[2007-04-02 16:03:56] - title: nice - aaron

[2007-04-02 15:40:15] - Gurkie: Even if we do something Saturday, we'll probably be done by the evening (assuming that's when you were going to drink) so Adrian could still join you. -Paul

[2007-04-02 15:38:58] - Dave: Oh, I know. I still find it to be somewhat coincidental. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-02 15:31:34] - aaron: i used to use pandora. it's how i heard bananarama's 2005 release. -amy

[2007-04-02 14:20:57] - paul: well, i dunno if all music will be drm-free, just the EMI ones i guess -dave

[2007-04-02 14:17:15] - a: or u can go and i can drink with lori ;-) want to tell her to call me? ~gurkie

[2007-04-02 14:07:27] - a: paul's ideas suck u guys should drink with me instead... (im kinda kidding...) ~gurkie

[2007-04-02 12:28:50] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normative -> search for "Kevin Bacon" -> Kevin Bacon

[2007-04-02 12:17:26] - Sam: She's not bad looking, but I wouldn't necessarily call her super hot. -Paul

[2007-04-02 12:11:40] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normative -> Political Science -> The Prince -> Prince (disambiguation) -> Prince (Musician) -> Batman -> Jack Nicholson -> A Few Good Men -> Kevin Bacon - aaron

[2007-04-02 12:10:56] - a: listen to it again, it's got that reggae keyboard thing going - aaron

[2007-04-02 12:10:27] - paul: well, i watch it because of candace parker <3  she is super hot -sam

[2007-04-02 12:08:36] - i guess i don't see how the sign could be mistaken for raggae.  ~a

[2007-04-02 12:06:02] - haha does anybody use pandora radio? my pair-programming-buddy punched in some reggae bands he's into, and 2 hours of reggae later we heard "ace of base - the sign" because of its slight reggae-ness. i thought that was really funny. - aaron

[2007-04-02 12:04:01] - a: Oh, I was just wondering if you would be interested in either biking or trying to organize some frisbee thing. If you have something else to do, don't worry about it. -Paul

[2007-04-02 11:50:52] - gurkie:  and sunday is easter.  i think lori is forcing me to do something that day though probably just for lunch or just for dinner.  i'll ask her.  ~a

[2007-04-02 11:49:11] - gurkie:  paul might be planning something saturday though he hasn't yet told me what it is.  ~a

[2007-04-02 11:33:42] - Although I will say that I saw a pretty awesome block from a player defending against a two on one. -Paul

[2007-04-02 11:33:11] - Gurkie: In addition to what Dave said, they just didn't seem to be as good. The play was really sloppy and both teams missed a bunch of wide open layups. -Paul

[2007-04-02 11:31:59] - Dave: That's funny, because this weekend I was doing research into how easy it is to remove the DRM from AAC files downloaded from iTunes and whether or not I would be able to play those files on my Xbox360. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-02 11:30:57] - a: steve jobs had a pretty high-profile statement a few months ago saying the only reason they don't sell stuff DRM-free is that the labels won't let them -dave

[2007-04-02 11:30:20] - gurkie: women's basketball just doesn't have as much of the exciting athleticism that you see in the NBA -dave

[2007-04-02 11:13:49] - a: do you and lori want to do something this weekend? (not that you guys going away affects me since i never see you anyways.) But give me a call if you guys want to hang out... ~gurkie

[2007-04-02 11:13:23] - the wikipedia... uhh... twelve degrees of kevin bacon game? we started with a random article and got there OK - aaron

[2007-04-02 11:12:55] - paul: why is women's basketball hard to watch? ~gurkie

[2007-04-02 11:12:51] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquie_O%27Sullivan -> 1991 in music -> Britney Spears -> Crossroads -> Dan Aykroyd -> 50 First Dates -> Adam Sandler -> Anger Management -> Jack Nicholson -> A Few Good Men -> Kevin Bacon - aaron

[2007-04-02 10:52:29] - dave:  wow!  i thought apple was refusing to do such things.  cool.  ~a

[2007-04-02 10:48:18] - http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/internet/04/02/emi.apple.ap/index.html iTunes to sell EMI songs without copy protection -dave

[2007-04-02 10:43:39] - a: Because Altria and Kraft split. For each share of MO (Altria) that you own, I think you get a certain amount of Kraft stock as well today. -Paul

[2007-04-02 10:40:02] - paul:  why did they drop that much?  ~a

[2007-04-02 10:39:18] - wow, i think 24% is the most i've seen a stock drop in one morning.  ~a

[2007-04-02 10:28:23] - Sam: Yeah, I watched some of the game. Women's basketball is hard to watch. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-02 10:27:52] - a: I own shares of Altria (MO) in the CNBC challenge. I really hope I get the shares of Kraft because of the spin off or else I just lost a ton of money. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-02 10:15:21] - so two days after pierce gets here.  ~a

[2007-04-02 10:15:08] - gurkie:  the 12th (a week from thursday)  ~a

[2007-04-02 10:13:48] - a: when do you and lori leave for ireland? ~gurkie

[2007-04-02 09:46:00] - paul: just in case you didn't know, your girl's team lost to my girl's team last night :-) and candace parker is now going to play for the national title! -sam

[2007-04-02 09:36:18] - mig:  hahahaha.  the distance.  ~a

[2007-04-01 11:39:21] - more spam!  yay.  ~a

[2007-03-30 16:02:42] - xpovos: thank you! *bows* (and yes, i realize this only works because all of my buttons have distinct display text.) -amy

[2007-03-30 15:30:54] - Xpovos: http://www.thestreet.com/_googlen/markets/metals/10347552.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA One of my favorite stocks recently has been FCX, and I think it could be good for another couple months too. -Paul

[2007-03-30 15:27:36] - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070330-high-schoolers-turn-in-plagiarism-screeners-for-copyright-infringement.html mclean, va hs students accuse company of copyright infringement. Company sells plagiarism screener to HS's. I'm vastly amused -dave

[2007-03-30 15:23:58] - amy: That is a classic hack-job if I've ever seen one. Bravo! -- Xpovos

[2007-03-30 15:21:53] - dave: Oh, I know.  I invested in this stock hoping for growth.  That hasn't materialized (but it also hasn't declined nearly as much as my other stocks, it's holding pretty steady) but it did give the dividend, so all-in-all it's performing OK. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-30 15:01:26] - xpovos: well if you're going for dividends, there are several bond ETFs that give 8-9% dividends over a year. They pay monthly i believe -dave

[2007-03-30 14:36:50] - hahaha i fixed it. every time the form is submitted, i call this: function fixIESubmitValue($submitvalue) {  if($submitvalue == "Next -->") { return "next";}      return($submitvalue); } -amy

[2007-03-30 14:28:08] - here's another interesting solution: http://narayanraman.blogspot.com/2006/12/button-tag-problems-and-ie-6.html yeah it is looking like i will have to rewrite a bunch of stuff no matter what. -amy

[2007-03-30 14:24:52] - amy:  amen to that.  ie. ie sucks.  ~a

[2007-03-30 14:23:39] - a: yeah, that's probably a good idea. i kind of have to rewrite everything though. it's kind of my fault for only testing this in firefox until now, when the application is basically done .p i still hate IE though .p -amy

[2007-03-30 14:21:58] - i'm rereading your initial question and i'm not sure if that's what you were asking.  let me know if i'm off in left field.  ~a

[2007-03-30 14:19:30] - i know that doesn't solve your problem exactly, but it solves it in a different way?  ~a

[2007-03-30 14:18:59] - http://aporter.org/tmp/amy.html

[2007-03-30 14:18:39] - does the value really matter?  can't you use a different name?  for example:  <input type="submit" name="previousaction" value="<-- previous" />  <input type="submit" name="nextaction" value="next -->" />  ~a

[2007-03-30 14:15:12] - amy:  i understand your question.  hmmm...  thinking.  ~a

[2007-03-30 13:37:02] - i want to be able to have two different values for what shows up on the button, and for the "value" that gets processed by the form... is that too damn much to ask? -amy

[2007-03-30 13:36:10] - so... does anybody know of a way to have a button display something other than its "value" like in the attribute of the tag? i have this button that says "Next -->" and in the button tag, value ="next" and that works great in firefox but in IE when i submit the form, it thinks the value is "Next -->" sigh did that make any sense at all? -amy

[2007-03-30 13:34:41] - *** amy hates IE. @#$(*@#($

[2007-03-30 11:46:25] - dave: No, I was speaking of another stock: PTSC, which did give a dividend.  And has said it will give another in 6mo, pending.  So: [0.02 * (6/12)]/PTSC = ~6%.  As much as I hate the stock, it's got the best chance of making me money out of the ones I own right now. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-30 11:38:30] - http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=Fairbanks,+AK&daddr=athens,+greece yay I can finally make that long drive from fairbanks to athens. I like how the alaska highway drive is like half the distance of the atlantic ocean swim! I can't imagine staying on one road for more than a thousand miles - vinnie

[2007-03-30 11:34:56] - aaron: lol i like how  they say it takes 29 days. -amy

[2007-03-30 11:13:19] - paul: maybe he means 6% rise in the stock, because that company you posted doesn't give dividends. It loses money actually -dave

[2007-03-30 11:06:25] - heh.  if you want to get accross the ocean, you MUST go to that "long warf".  even if you're coming from florida or california.  ~a

[2007-03-30 11:02:23] - aaron:  haha.  did you find google's april fools joke two days early?  you probably know that i'm going to ireland in two weeks.  ~a

[2007-03-30 10:50:36] - http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=new+york,+ny&daddr=Dublin,+Ireland anybody want to go to ireland - aaron

[2007-03-30 10:46:44] - Xpovos: 6% dividend yield is pretty good. What stock? -Paul

[2007-03-30 10:42:58] - Paul: Wow.  Here I am pleased by the fact that I got a 6% dividend yeild. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-30 10:35:51] - http://finance.google.com/finance?q=DNDN So I guess pharma is the way to go for risky speculative stocks. :-) -Paul

[2007-03-30 10:12:54] - paul: and it's what most of the apps we'd be trying to port are already written in -dave

[2007-03-30 10:12:35] - paul: from what I know, you can use C++, C#, and Visual Basic. We'd probably be using C++ as it's what all the developer's know already -dave

[2007-03-30 09:40:58] - Dave: Wouldn't it be mostly C# and not C++? Having said that, I sadly do not know of any good .NET reference books. I will check around the office and see what coworkers think. -Paul

[2007-03-30 09:14:30] - does anyone know of a good .NET reference book? Would be using C++ for the most part probably -dave

[2007-03-30 08:46:47] - author takes exception to the statement by pelosi in the recent war funding bill "Our bill calls for the redeployment of U.S. troops out of Iraq so that we can focus more fully on the real war on terror, which is in Afghanistan" -dave

[2007-03-30 08:46:15] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/29/AR2007032901987.html?hpid=opinionsbox1 Argument on why war in Iraq is more important than war in Afghanistan -dave

[2007-03-30 08:36:33] - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=444860&in_page_id=1770 uk is starting to take minority report a little too seriously... - mig

[2007-03-30 08:17:23] - a:  i would say it is more accurate to say that the mccain people  were "leehcing" his site. - mig

[2007-03-29 23:09:00] - mig:  the daily show covered the mccain myspace story but they got it all wrong.  they called the guy a hacker which he wasn't.  it was the mcain webmasters that were inadvertantly "hacking" his site.  ~a

[2007-03-29 16:52:00] - I don't think I can come today :( - vinnie

[2007-03-29 16:31:51] - aaron:  mkay.  i'll be late.  6:45ish.  ~a

[2007-03-29 16:21:33] - ddr_people: sfm today? - aaron

[2007-03-29 15:03:53] - happy to oblige. - pierce

[2007-03-29 15:01:14] - wow, the family guy joke makes a LOT more sense now.  thanks pierce.  ~a

[2007-03-29 15:00:42] - he's a pederast, dude. - pierce

[2007-03-29 15:00:07] - isn't that the pedophile from the big lebowski?  ~a

[2007-03-29 14:58:57] - i saw the wikipedia article on frankincense referring to jesus but i had never heard of him.  ~a

[2007-03-29 14:53:30] - what kind of christian are you? - pierce

[2007-03-29 14:53:22] - a: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_wise_men - pierce

[2007-03-29 14:51:28] - ???  i don't get it.  ~a

[2007-03-29 14:46:11] - a: no, I'm trying to get you to bring me some frankincense - pierce

[2007-03-29 14:05:28] - :'(  ~a

[2007-03-29 14:05:14] - you mock me?  ~a

[2007-03-29 14:03:06] - you're a wise man, mr. porter. - pierce

[2007-03-29 13:57:24] - pierce:  it is greedy.  as you suggest, i can't always be greedy, that's why the parens are not in the list of greedynesses:  $urlmatch = '(?:[^\\s\\"()| ]|\\&amp;)';  (the & is there for a legacy reason; & in the past were escaped because of their special meaning in html).  preg_replace_callback("#(?:\w+)://$urlmatch+#", ...  ~a

[2007-03-29 13:54:19] - pierce

[2007-03-29 13:38:14] - but as you get into languages which focus more on ease of development/maintenance than runtime performance, that kind of ambiguity becomes a bit vestigial. - pierce

[2007-03-29 13:35:35] - as for C++, it had to do it that way in order to maintain compatibility with C code.  it was also designed in a much earlier era of software development, where the advantages of using booleans as numeric primitives outweighed the disadvantages. - pierce

[2007-03-29 13:33:25] - a: I'd suggest that your URL parser should be greedy until it reaches a non-URL character, but I can imagine a number of annoying "common sense" counterexamples like following a URL with a comma or period or at the end of a parenthetical (like here http://aporter.org/msg). - pierce

[2007-03-29 13:07:19] - pierce:  c++ lets you use boolean values in numeric contexts.  ~a

[2007-03-29 13:05:55] - pierce.  i agree with your "flimsy hack" assesment.  that's why i labeled it as "the thing i hate most about php".  ~a

[2007-03-29 13:05:07] - pierce:  it's not a bug.  people often use parens outside of a url context.  i.e. they'll put a url and then they'll put a parenthesized comment about the url without a space in between.  ~a

[2007-03-29 12:07:54] - xpovos: http://imdb.com/title/tt0115101/ ? - pierce

[2007-03-29 12:00:32] - I was more expecting a flame about whether you should be allowed to use boolean values in numeric contexts :) - pierce

[2007-03-29 12:00:04] - Hmm, apparently you are not only pierceless, you are r-less. Apologies. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-29 11:59:33] - piece: No flame.  I'm fine with it returning -1 instead of FALSE.  That'd be pretty simple to fix in legacy code too. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-29 11:41:28] - *** pierce awaits a retaliatory flame

[2007-03-29 11:39:19] - furthermore, it seems like we should be at the point in software development where high-level languages don't let you use boolean values in a numeric context.  "false + 1" is a type conflict, not "true", unless you're at a really nitty-gritty level like assembly. - pierce

[2007-03-29 11:36:05] - but the whole problem with the === and !== operators seems to be that they're a flimsy hack to deal with a poorly designed API.  a single function shouldn't have two different possible return types, particularly if those two types can be easily confused via the language syntax. - pierce

[2007-03-29 11:31:14] - erm, (java.lang.String) should be part of the URL there.  is that a bug in the message board URL parsing, or are parens supposed to be replaced with encoded URL characters? - pierce

[2007-03-29 11:30:02] - in other words, like java does it: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/lang/String.html#indexOf(java.lang.String) - pierce

[2007-03-29 11:27:47] - ...or (for convenience and/or due to language limitations) return a value that can be represented by the data type returned by strpos but isn't within the set of valid results (integers >= 0).  -1 seems like a good choice. - pierce

[2007-03-29 11:26:00] - which leaves two possibilities, as I see it.  either consider it an error condition when $needle isn't a substring of $haystack, and throw an exception (if PHP even has exceptions) - pierce

[2007-03-29 11:24:43] - IMO, it should follow the convention of the function name.  "strpos" suggests that it's returning a numeric position, not a boolean result, so it shouldn't be returning FALSE in the first place... - pierce

[2007-03-29 11:07:27] - turn around!  ~a

[2007-03-29 11:07:14] - you're going the WRONG WAY!  ~a

[2007-03-29 10:27:04] - d'oh, it doesn't bode well for prompt delivery when your package takes two days to make this journey on its way to seattle. - pierce

[2007-03-29 10:15:29] - a: I use those a lot too.  Which I agree is painful.  Still, for a language, I find PHP to be quite workable and with relatively few of these issues, compared with what it does. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-29 09:39:32] - === is in my php directory 115 times.  and !== 29 times.  ~a

[2007-03-29 09:31:15] - xpovos:  well sadly i don't know the answer.  i just know it's annoying as hell.  and strpos isn't the only example.  there are tons of times where i've found myself using === to the point that i start using it in replace of ==.  ~a

[2007-03-29 07:50:53] - a: I understand the confusion that arises from strpos(), but I like that function a lot, as it is very easy and understandable.  How would you change it to make it less error-prone?  Would you change strpos 0 to 1, and start the count there, or would you try to return something other than FALSE, e.g. maybe an error? -- Xpovos

[2007-03-28 17:03:52] - amy:  yes, i like glue and pieces too.  it's a great mental picture every time i call the function.  ~a

[2007-03-28 17:00:46] - in other words:  this php script prints out true, true, true, false, false, false.  ~a

[2007-03-28 16:58:27] - amy:  well the stupid stupid thing in php is this:  strpos($haystack, "needle")  returns 0 if "needle" is at the beginning of $haystack.  returns FALSE if "needle" doesn't exist in $haystack.  well FALSE == 0.  :(  ~a

[2007-03-28 15:48:06] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032602088_pf.html good luck getting a bank loan or a car or even an apt if any part of your name sounds remotely middle eastern. - mig

[2007-03-28 15:31:27] - a: you're right, this isn't as useful as the regular expression. i guess i will stick to preg_match() for now. -amy

[2007-03-28 15:30:36] - i love these function definitions: string strstr ( string $haystack, string $needle ) string implode ( string $glue, array $pieces ) -amy

[2007-03-28 15:29:42] - a: thanks. what are === and !==? -amy

[2007-03-28 14:48:10] - god, the thing i hate most about php:  the === and !== operators.  ~a

[2007-03-28 14:46:42] - strpos does a similar search.  ~a

[2007-03-28 14:44:03] - yes, but i never use it.  i rarely ever want to find an instance of something that isn't a regular expression.  anyways, it's (checks php.net) strstr (looks just like the c function strstr).  ~a

[2007-03-28 14:38:33] - a: hmm... is there a similar php equivalent to preg_match? (as preg_split is to explode) -amy

[2007-03-28 14:30:38] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/27/AR2007032702357.html New Drive Afoot to Pass Equal Rights Amendment. -Paul

[2007-03-28 13:18:11] - aaron:  i'm also not sure exactly how they found me because the referrer field (the field that usually tells you what link somebody came from) was intentionally blank.  ~a

[2007-03-28 13:17:18] - aaron:  they have their own search engine.  i don't know how their search engine works or how they access it, but almost three weeks ago a spider hit my page from the domain name of free.ispsystem.net.  don't go there, there isn't any webpage there.  the machine might even have been illegaly hijacked for the spammer's use.  ~a

[2007-03-28 13:13:14] - http://mike.newsvine.com/_news/2007/03/26/633799-hacking-john-mccain -- Xpovos

[2007-03-28 13:04:27] - a: yahoo.com has it - aaron

[2007-03-28 13:04:08] - a: how did they find it? i don't see it indexed on google - aaron

[2007-03-28 11:53:36] - amy:  yep, explode is faster if you don't need to use a regular expression.  EXPLODE!  ~a

[2007-03-28 11:45:37] - (i was going to use preg_split(), but explode is way better!!) -amy

[2007-03-28 11:43:10] - hee hee hee. i just used the php function explode(). i love that it is called explode. -amy

[2007-03-28 11:42:46] - Paul: I saw that.  Looks sexy.  I'll probably buy one in a few months when prices drop and I've got some spare cash. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-28 11:42:24] - a: Once the cat is out of the bag, it gets bad.  I had a spam problem crop up too, I locked it down, but in the 2 days I was working on the problem, I had hundreds of spam blasts. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-28 10:26:15] - wow, the spammers have really gone crazy on the message board.  they tried to post 1055 messages on sunday alone.  ~a

[2007-03-28 10:24:29] - http://www.cnbc.com/id/17828594 A new version of the Xbox360 for those thinking about buying one. -Paul

[2007-03-28 10:10:24] - pierce:  patrick stewart really loves cheap comedy doesn't he?  ~a

[2007-03-28 08:38:39] - a: Also, when I started using it, the place I used it most, AIM, wouldn't allow those kinds of characters.  So: Xpovos it is. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-28 08:24:40] - a: It is more correct, but it's almost infinitely faster for me to type Xpovos than it is to type χρóνος. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-28 06:17:31] - contextless youtubery!  saw this linked, if you've never seen Extras this is why it's a hilarious show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGf9Hc-KpAA - pierce

[2007-03-28 00:41:07] - i love this show

[2007-03-27 17:13:58] - xpovos:  if you had been saying χρóνος this whole time, i might have known what you meant.  ~a

[2007-03-27 17:13:14] - gurkie: cool!  thanks much..... it didn't show around dc when it opened.  i guess it had strong enough box office earnings that other locations picked it up later.  -  aba

[2007-03-27 17:05:01] - xpovos:  why don't you use the greek alphabet to spell it?  wouldn't that be more correct?  ~a

[2007-03-27 15:54:24] - a: Aaron is right.  It's a transcription of the greek word for time, which transliterated reads "chronos". -- Xpovos

[2007-03-27 15:38:44] - eh: i think it's kro-nos - eh-run

[2007-03-27 15:31:32] - xpovos:  i forget the "right" way to pronounce xpovos.  ~a

[2007-03-27 14:28:26] - eh-me: Thanks! -- eks-po-vos

[2007-03-27 14:24:58] - eks-po-vos: happy birthday ^_^ -amy

[2007-03-27 14:02:21] - vinnie: Nope.  I'm staying the coures.  However, I do smile every time I do hear eks-po-vos. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-27 13:56:57] - Amy: Sorry, I really can't tomorrow. The bosses from New York are coming down and I imagine it'll be a late night for us. -Paul

[2007-03-27 13:39:35] - aba: http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/theater?id=4276&date=20070327 ~gurkie

[2007-03-27 13:39:33] - happy b'day xpovos! (just curious, have you started pronouncing xpovos like 'eks-po-vos' like the rest of us yet?) - vinnie

[2007-03-27 13:38:54] - aba: its showing at cinema arts in va ~gurkie

[2007-03-27 13:35:04] - ooh, but seattle was and it's showing near my apartment, cool - pierce

[2007-03-27 13:08:12] - gurkie:  yeah, it was only released in a few major cities (and dc wasn't one of them).  :(  -  aba

[2007-03-27 12:29:59] - ...err, interested in coming to support me. or perform, of course. either one. .) -amy

[2007-03-27 12:28:37] - I'm planning on performing at open mike tomorrow in Herndon. Let me know if you're interested. -amy

[2007-03-27 11:39:30] - aba: wait... the movie came out already? now i feel out of the loop... ~gurkie

[2007-03-27 11:29:31] - gurkie:  it was pretty good.  i'd recommend it.  i'm bummed that the movie wasn't really released to a lot of theatres.  guess i'll have to rent it later.  -  aba

[2007-03-27 10:46:30] - aba: I heard really good things about that book... ~gurkie

[2007-03-27 10:06:14] - aba: Agreed, especially considering that the article seems to be about how serious he is about acting. -Paul

[2007-03-27 09:56:45] - paul:  i find it amusing that the article makes no mention of his recent more serious work in the namesake (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0433416/).  -  aba

[2007-03-27 09:36:46] - http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=256269>1=7701 "He recently finished shooting 'Harold & Kumar 2' with Cho." Nice. -Paul

[2007-03-27 09:34:16] - "Hooray" just sounds like a made up word to me. -Paul

[2007-03-27 08:01:22] - pierce: Hooray beats out even hurrah, but not as badly as it beat hurray. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-27 07:32:32] - a: i don't know if it totally bastardizes the factory design pattern but you could make your constructors protected - aaron

[2007-03-26 23:35:45] - i just found out something really annoying.  the factory design pattern really makes it impossible for other people to inherit from your classes.  since none of the constructors are public that means they can't extend anything.  ~a

[2007-03-26 21:45:26] - http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=hooray&word2=hurray - pierce

[2007-03-26 20:53:31] - Amy: Hurray! -Paul

[2007-03-26 20:46:15] - hooray micro center saves the day and my computer works again ^_^ -amy

[2007-03-26 19:05:16] - by the way, "pierce: OK fine butt and legs" is my new personal motto. - pierce

[2007-03-26 19:03:25] - amy: heh, point taken.  most parts of the body would be creepy when presented absent an accompanied face.  I guess, for the purposes of the question, imagine that there was a way to judge "neck down" and "waist down" in such a way that the omitted data would be automatically assumed to be "average" (so as to avoid bias) - pierce

[2007-03-26 18:47:20] - gurkie: OK thanks, i will probably go tonight. -amy

[2007-03-26 18:47:04] - pierce: OK fine butt and legs. personally i think i would find a pic of someone's butt + legs to be creepy. maybe that is just me ,) -amy

[2007-03-26 18:41:44] - i would say neck up... and i would probably have to go with waist up too... cause like amy said how cute are a pair of legs... and my knees are kinda ugly... ~gurkie

[2007-03-26 18:40:01] - amy: try microcenter i think they possibly have a lot of stuff like that ~gurkie

[2007-03-26 18:27:37] - my answer, btw, neck up, waist down.  I'm not a huge fan of my torso. - pierce

[2007-03-26 18:26:47] - Amy: Yeah, that's rough. I heard not all the stores are closing. Maybe you could find one close by which isn't closing and buy it there? -Paul

[2007-03-26 18:26:43] - amy: maybe you're using a different definition, but to me "waist down" very notably includes more than just the legs. - pierce

[2007-03-26 18:15:36] - Paul: thanks for the suggestion... i'm annoyed that compusa is going out of business; i found a power supply that would most likely be perfect, but since i can't return it, i won't know until i'm stuck with it... i already got one from best buy that didn't fit. -amy

[2007-03-26 18:04:22] - Amy: You might be able to find something at a Radio Shack, but I don't know of any places around here that would contain a part like that except CompUSA. -Paul

[2007-03-26 17:52:28] - also i'd say neck down but waist up... i mean how attractive is a pair of legs going to look on its own? .p -amy

[2007-03-26 17:51:23] - i went to compusa but it is closing so no returns, and best buy's selection is crap... so are there any computer parts/hardware stores around here that people know of? thanks... -amy

[2007-03-26 17:50:50] - if anybody is still around... where would you go to get a power supply? i need something like 300-350W with SATA connector and i need to be able to return it or at least try it out to make sure it fits in my computer and i ALSO need it basically ASAP, so ordering online is not really an option -amy

[2007-03-26 15:24:56] - Neck and waist down.  The closer you get the floor, the better I look.  Except my feet. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-26 15:19:00] - <poll> if you had to choose between being judged on attractiveness from the neck up or from the neck down, what would you choose?  what about from the waist up versus the waist down?

[2007-03-26 15:14:20] - a: I think photoshop could make me look good. You can drag a completely different picture of somebody over mine, right? :-) -Paul

[2007-03-26 14:30:50] - not even photoshop can make me look good.  ~a

[2007-03-26 14:06:37] - aaron: it all depends how hot is the person who thinks ur an 11. Actually the whole thing is kinda sick. Numbers are mean, plus pics can totally be photoshopped/edited to make people look good. ~gurkie

[2007-03-26 12:59:59] - gurkie: i thought about that, how hot would you have to be for another "10" to rate you as a "10"? you'd have to be at least an 11 - aaron

[2007-03-26 12:44:04] - although that site in general you are being rated by the people society deems "hot" so they are likely to be stricter than your average joe....~gurkie

[2007-03-26 12:43:12] - vinnie: i think she was belittling the website because she failed to make the cut... thinking you are an 8/9 and being rated under a 6 has to sting...~gurkie

[2007-03-23 17:17:16] - a: I'll check that out. Thanks. -Paul

[2007-03-23 17:00:20] - usually the error log on the server says why something failed where as the error message reported to the user is intentionally vague (for security considerations and to avoid confusing users or whatever)  ~a

[2007-03-23 16:59:29] - paul:  check for an error log on the server.  ~a

[2007-03-23 16:55:47] - a: This guy is getting "Bad Request (Invalid Header Name)" when trying to use our webservice. -Paul

[2007-03-23 16:30:00] - paul:  what isn't working?  ~a

[2007-03-23 16:11:43] - well nine now.  ~a

[2007-03-23 16:11:30] - paul:  mispelled/ing/ings has seven hits.  :-P

[2007-03-23 16:09:12] - aamy: Thanks, I'm trying to find out what's wrong with some php code that somebody else wrote and it's hard since I don't know any php myself. :-) -Paul

[2007-03-23 16:08:09] - i've seen people use both and i'm having a hard time figuring out what the difference is.  ~a

[2007-03-23 16:06:52] - i think maybe you're supposed to use socket_write with sockets.  ~a

[2007-03-23 16:06:41] - although, i'm not sure if you're supposed to use fputs or fprintf with sockets.  ~a

[2007-03-23 16:05:40] - paul, that looks right to me.  ~a

[2007-03-23 16:04:43] - php!  woooo!@!#  ~a

[2007-03-23 15:50:18] - Amy: So if $host = "HappyLand", the result from that should be:        Host: HappyLand\r\n        ? -Paul

[2007-03-23 15:48:46] - Paul: I think it should work because you have the \ right after it, so it should know that is the end of the var name. -amy

[2007-03-23 15:46:06] - people who know php: If you do something like: fputs($socket, "Host: $host\r\n"); Does that look like it would work? In other words, will it replace the $host with it's value or will it take it literally? -Paul

[2007-03-23 15:24:01] - "But she also reasoned: "You cannot make a relationship by being arm candy."" then what was she doing applying to the site? :P - vinnie

[2007-03-23 15:18:05] - aba: ha ha ha. good call. - aaron

[2007-03-23 14:44:13] - aaron:  well for one, it switches between using .org and .com for the domain.  i mean, don't they have editors/proof readers for that kind of thing?  -  aba

[2007-03-23 13:43:22] - aba: what's wrong with it? you couldn't interview two people in 10 minutes you liar - aaron

[2007-03-23 13:28:41] - (I give no assurance of the accuracy of those lyrics) - vinnie

[2007-03-23 13:26:52] - pierce: http://wiki.aporter.org/index.php?title=Emerald_City - vinnie

[2007-03-23 13:24:21] - aaron:  wow, that was really awful journalism.  i could write a better article in 10 minutes.  ><  -  aba

[2007-03-23 12:36:13] - http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/internet/03/22/hot.enough.ap/index.html dating site asks, "are you hot enough?" - aaron

[2007-03-23 12:35:40] - aaron: Just like an e-mail, but without the hyphen. -- Xpovos

[2007-03-23 12:34:44] - pierce: Spellings tend to come from the root words, foremost though, so since we have Greek roots there, it gets fun. a- "without" theo- "god".  Similarly, we can look at misspell, mis- "bad" (again Greek) spell "story, or speech" (Old English). -- Xpovos

[2007-03-23 12:28:12] - paul: what's an email - aaron

[2007-03-23 12:27:36] - err, I guess it's not a problem since it leads me to the correct spelling.  YOU have a problem. - pierce

[2007-03-23 12:26:37] - paul: ah, see I have amy's problem.  I see "athiest" and I imagine it as a superlative (I believe in no god the MOST!), which seems wrong.  "Atheist" reminds me of "capitalist" or "fascist" or "darwinist" or any of the other related agreeing-with-a-system-of-belief words. - pierce

[2007-03-23 12:19:57] - Pierce: I think probably the first ("ist"). Despite that, I still think "Athiest" phonetically just looks more correct. "Atheist" seems like it should have the "ei" pronounced like neighbor or something. -Paul

[2007-03-23 12:14:50] - what's up with the seattle district names in the title, btw? - pierce

[2007-03-23 12:12:43] - as a rule, I use "theater" when I'm referring to a location ("we're going to a movie theater") and theatre when I'm referring to the art form ("he was active in his church's theatre program") although I may sometimes slip between the two. - pierce

[2007-03-23 12:10:29] - Paul: do you pronounce it "ay thee ist" or "ay thee est"?  I'd probably have a hard time distinguishing them auditorily but that probably has a large part in forming your mental image of the word's spelling. - pierce

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