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[2007-04-10 16:08:57] - hmm what is wrong with this regular expression: "/<div class=\"listtextbox\">(^(<\/div>)*)<\/div>/s" i'm trying to find what's inside a div tag with class "listtextbox", but i have to make sure that it finds the matching </div>  tag, not some other one... -amy

[2007-04-10 15:48:46] - Of course, I also think hair gel is a little weird so... :-) -Paul

[2007-04-10 15:48:15] - Amy: Well, I dunno, I remember finding it interesting that there was a product which essentially made "black" hair more like "white" hair. -Paul

[2007-04-10 15:43:28] - Paul: expl? -amy

[2007-04-10 15:17:41] - Paul: When my hair was longer I considered using hair straighteners, but figured it wasn't worth the hassle. -- Xpovos

[2007-04-10 15:17:10] - aba: Nappy is also an adjective generally meaning 'not clean', with no specific racial pejoratives attached. -- Xpovos

[2007-04-10 15:15:33] - Amy: I remember I used to deal with hair straightening products when I worked at Giant and thinking that it was a little odd. -Paul

[2007-04-10 15:07:09] - a: yea xbox360 supports usb keyboards.  but i thought this new add-on looked neat. -sam

[2007-04-10 14:56:01] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjy9q8VekmE here is a student-made documentary featuring young african-american girls talking about issues, incl. how their natural hair is viewed as unattractive, and how many women get their hair straightened (to look more like "white hair") because of this -amy

[2007-04-10 14:54:53] - Ugh.  One quote too few... --- Xpovos

[2007-04-10 14:54:32] - <a href =http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/10/news/economy/drhorton_warning/?postversion=2007041009">"The worst declines [in the housing market for new homes sold by D.R. Horton] were in California, where volume was down 59 percent, and value of the homes sold fell 56.8 percent." </a> -- Xpovos

[2007-04-10 14:52:19] - aba: Yeah, the wikipedia page made it sound like a strictly descriptive term with seemingly no negative connotations. That's why I was confused. -Paul

[2007-04-10 14:46:17] - but that would just be my guess.  -  aba

[2007-04-10 14:46:02] - i think it has a negative connotation due to associations with slavery, the attempt of many african americans to fit in more with "white culture", etc, etc.  -  aba

[2007-04-10 14:43:34] - paul: "nappy hair" is a term to describe the quality of hair that is very curly and knotted (predominently present in people of african ethnic background).  -  aba

[2007-04-10 14:30:19] - Sam: I am a little confused about that. Is there something offensive about "nappy"? I had never heard of the word before and my quick glance through wikipedia didn't make it look like an inherently offensive term. -Paul

[2007-04-10 14:30:17] - sam:  doesn't the xbox 360 support a regular usb keyboard?  ~a

[2007-04-10 14:11:34] - Xbox 360 QWERTY thumb keyboard add-on to the controller. http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/09/xbox-360s-qwerty-thumb-keyboard-is-official/  -sam

[2007-04-10 14:11:09] - paul: well, it seems like only black people are mad because of the "nappy headed" part  -sam

[2007-04-10 13:49:43] - Sam: I'm guessing it has something to do with calling a bunch of college girls "hos". -Paul

[2007-04-10 13:37:22] - and it seems strange that so many blacks people are outraged by this when Imus called Tennessee players "cute."  7 of 11 Tennessee players are black -sam

[2007-04-10 13:35:57] - paul: that's what i think too -sam

[2007-04-10 13:32:34] - Sam: Well, maybe the Rutgers women were uglier? -Paul

[2007-04-10 13:31:43] - Why do you think Imus called the Rutgers women's basketball team players "nappy head hos" but called the Tennessee women's basketball team players cute?  Both teams had many black players.  Rutgers had 2 white players and 8 black players.  Tennessee had 4 white players and 7 black players.  But Imus only called the Rutgers team "nappy headed hos."  -sam

[2007-04-10 13:26:28] - so i'm very glad for the mboard. and for the internet. -amy

[2007-04-10 13:26:20] - (i probably made it sound more complicated than it actually is.) re: function callback - i like it. i didn't know you could do that in PHP. thanks ^_^ and hooray for the message board... now that i work alone, i have no coworkers to ask questions to when i can't figure something out, just the internet and the mboard (which i guess is part of the internet)...

[2007-04-10 13:23:35] - $output = preg_replace_callback("/BLAH/", array($this, 'functionname'), $input);  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:22:26] - amy:  mkay.  they're pretty simple and almost exactly the same as java.  but using a function callback was something it took me a while to find out how to use.  it's something i added in when the message board was getting lots of spam.  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:21:22] - amy:  sounds complicated.  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:20:50] - well being that i don't know much about PHP objects, much less creating them (unless this is one of those times where terminology escapes me but i've been doing it all along, but i somehow doubt that) i suppose it is purely functional. -amy

[2007-04-10 13:20:11] - other problem i have. -amy

[2007-04-10 13:20:05] - ... it will put a div tag and then a p tag inside that div tag. so depending on whether or not the p tag is there, it displays differently. well in CSS, i set margin and padding for p tags inside that div class all to 0, so that there is no differenc in display whether the p tag is there or not. however i'm almost certain i'll need to use your solution for the...

[2007-04-10 13:20:01] - amy:  is this being used in an object?  or is this purely functional php?  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:19:04] - that's really good. unfortunately, i solved my problem in a way that did not involve regexp at all. (though i still have more things to solve, so i may need to use something like that after all.) my problem was that the WYSIWYG editor i'm configuring, when you apply a div tag to apply a class to some text, sometimes it will put only a div tag around it, and sometimes...

[2007-04-10 13:18:29] - :)  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:16:42] - should have hit refresh .) -amy

[2007-04-10 13:16:34] - a: i think i see where you are going with this. callback refers to a function that gets defined, and will replace "s? -amy

[2007-04-10 13:15:59] - function callback($terms) {    $entireterm = $terms[0];    return str_replace('"', '', $entireterm);    }    ~a

[2007-04-10 13:15:08] - or, better yet:  $output = preg_replace_callback('/<.*?>/', callback, $input);  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:13:58] - $output = preg_replace_callback('/<[^<>]*>/', callback, $input);  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:12:40] - ok, i have a pretty simple answer now.  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:07:32] - a: yeah, i'm trying to think of other ways to do what i'm trying to do (other than regular expression) -amy

[2007-04-10 13:06:11] - does anybody have a simple answer to this problem?  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:05:57] - amy:  i have an answer, but it's pretty damn complicated.  ~a

[2007-04-10 13:00:17] - the cop-out answer is that regular expressions don't solve every problem.  please hold for the non-cop-out answer.  ~a

[2007-04-10 12:54:39] - regular expression question... i need to remove (or replace) every instance of something, but only if it appears inside something else. like let's say you want to replace double-quotes with single-quotes, but only inside HTML tags. so you want to find every instance of " that occurs between < and > (but not if there are more <> between those)... how would you do so? -amy

[2007-04-10 11:40:40] - as is reservoir dogs :-D  ~a

[2007-04-10 11:40:08] - paul:  pulp fiction is a pretty normal movie . . .  ~a

[2007-04-10 11:14:12] - People used to think his tastes weren't as marginal? :-) -Paul

[2007-04-09 16:21:12] - tarantino's definitely in the latter group... although as he gets richer and has more influence in the industry he's starting to show that his tastes are much more marginal than we used to think. - pierce

[2007-04-09 16:18:05] - as for producers, it seems like there are two real types: the ones who want to make something broad so that it'll appear equally mediocre to every demographic, and the ones who want to make movies according to their own particular (sometimes super-esoteric) tastes. - pierce

[2007-04-09 16:14:27] - ...and maybe it is inferior when judged as a genre entry.  but for the most part, normal moviegoers don't measure things by genre, and probably just haven't seen as many genre entries as the critics.  so the reaping might be just fine as "entertainment." - pierce

[2007-04-09 16:12:37] - paul: I think critics are generally okay, but just by the nature of their job they're at one more level of "metaness" when watching movies.  for example, the reaping is getting a lot of flak for being a formulaic "religious thriller" a la the omen, stigmata, constantine, etc... - pierce

[2007-04-09 16:07:41] - title: that idiotic show totally cracked me up, even now just thinking of the voices makes me giggle uncontrollably - aaron

[2007-04-09 16:06:35] - I think that's taking a bit of creative license with respect to the word "new."  isn't grindhouse a tribute to the point of parody to the point of rip-off of movies from the seventies?  isn't it possible that that genre faded from the public eye for a reason? - pierce

[2007-04-09 15:24:09] - I think that's what annoys me about movie critics and certain producers, they feel like it's our fault that we don't like their movies and we just need to be taught what a good movie is. -Paul

[2007-04-09 15:23:17] - http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSN0319844520070409 Weinstein said the public is always demanding new moviegoing experiences, "and then it takes a while to educate them." -Paul

[2007-04-09 15:02:11] - Sorry, I'm not posting much here today because I'm not at work and because the little computer time I am allotting myself is being spent responding to the 10 comments I got on my journal entry that I wrote last night. -Paul

[2007-04-09 13:12:33] - a: the hit counter seemed high, so i thought i'd make a post.  -  aba

[2007-04-09 12:25:29] - aba, a little early for halloween methinks.  ~a

[2007-04-09 12:17:56] - boo!  -  aba

[2007-04-09 08:56:06] - http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2007/04/cosmoscode_0409 -- Xpovos

[2007-04-08 06:08:16] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe6IXTkqlTU cathy's house - aaron

[2007-04-07 17:08:48] - Aaron: Very nice. 8-) -paul

[2007-04-07 01:56:39] - paul: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=231 te he - aaron

[2007-04-06 22:58:47] - The answer is 'a'.... Naggers!  They are so annoying!

[2007-04-06 21:39:04] - too far, anonymous, too far. (but I'm guessing "ς") - pierce

[2007-04-06 20:15:10] - Fill in the missing letter: These kind of people are very annoying... "N_ggers"

[2007-04-06 17:06:35] - a: am I?  honestly, I forget sometimes because I'm so not-racist that I don't even see black and white. - pierce

[2007-04-06 16:37:36] - pierce:  i thought you were black.  ~a

[2007-04-06 16:01:46] - Incidentally, how come richard pryor can do a routine and everybody finds it hilarious and ground-breaking and then I go and do the exact same routine, same comedic timing, and people file a complaint to corporate? Is it because I'm white and richard is black? - pierce

[2007-04-06 16:00:57] - it's also the name of a famous richard pryor comedy album, for reference. - pierce

[2007-04-06 15:12:01] - Vinnie: I noted that too, but apparantly it's just a short on the history of black actors. -- Xpovos

[2007-04-06 13:18:27] - interesting title for the first movie listed for Sidney Poitier. the controversial sequel to Bicentennial Man? - vinnie

[2007-04-06 11:31:33] - i think the problem with black sneakers is that some people wear them as if they are more formal shoes, in outfits they would not wear white sneakers with, just because they are black. but sneakers are sneakers. -amy

[2007-04-06 10:18:10] - they were all blind.  it was a very boring movie.  ~a

[2007-04-06 10:06:21] - Aaron: Donald wasn't blind, Whistler was blind. -Paul

[2007-04-06 10:02:19] - pierce: yeah the guy was blind anyway, what would he know about proper fashion - aaron

[2007-04-06 09:28:55] - Pierce: That's terrible. -Paul

[2007-04-06 01:09:26] - "not all black sneakers are bad" - pierce

[2007-04-05 23:28:24] - gurkie: who did you offend? i have one pair of black jeans and i never wear them. i just think you're crazy is all - aaron

[2007-04-05 19:58:54] - paul: black shoes? sigh most shoes are black... and not all black sneakers are bad... but there are a lot of bad black sneakers out there... ~gurkie

[2007-04-05 19:13:23] - I think everybody (except for me) at least agrees that black shoes are hideous. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-05 18:45:16] - aaron: blah why do i express opinions? i think i always offend people... i guess it really depends on the black jeans... I do have black jeans so maybe im crazy ;-) ~gurkie

[2007-04-05 18:37:39] - amy: they actually used to (as of 2 weeks ago) pay you 5 bucks to use overnight shipping... which means i was dumb when i placed one order for 2 items. ~gurkie

[2007-04-05 16:37:41] - amy:  google reads the message board.  :-P  ~a

[2007-04-05 16:23:36] - vinnie: .x I didn't say a word about Dirk. It must have picked it up telepathically. Not that I was thinking a lot of thoughts about Dirk or anything... 0.) -amy

[2007-04-05 16:20:50] - amy: I got that same link. I just figured you had mentioned Dirk somewhere in an e-mail to me :P - vinnie

[2007-04-05 16:13:22] - google is so smart! how did it know to put a link to "nowitzness" t-shirts in my ads.... i had clicked on a link about the bulls vs. the pistons and emailing a bit about ben wallace... but it KNEW which player is my favorite without me even mentioning him ,) -amy

[2007-04-05 15:37:32] - a: I know more chemists than you.  :-P -- Xpovos

[2007-04-05 15:34:34] - gurkie: what's wrong with black jeans? - aaron

[2007-04-05 15:09:42] - and by catholic, i mean, roman catholic, not practicing, doesn't go to church every week and is named xpovos.  ~a

[2007-04-05 15:08:55] - xpovos:  100% of all chemists i know are catholic.  ~a

[2007-04-05 15:07:32] - And by Catholic, I mean, Roman Catholic, practicing, go to church every week types. -- Xpovos

[2007-04-05 15:07:14] - Interesting anecdotal fact: approx. 60% of all chemists I know are Catholic. -- Xpovos

[2007-04-05 14:22:57] - gurkie: have you heard of this site? http://www.endless.com/ free overnight shipping on shoes and purses! .D -amy

[2007-04-05 14:11:24] - paul:  i thought it was funny too.  ~a

[2007-04-05 14:10:45] - dave:  so he's a scientist that doesn't speak technically?  ~a

[2007-04-05 13:29:41] - a: i think he's making more of a general statement than a by-the-numbers technically correct thing. -dave

[2007-04-05 13:24:11] - yay! it was a little expensive, but the parcel plus down the street packed and shipped the thing. not that anyone cares. well, just in case anyone ever needs something packed and shipped .p -amy

[2007-04-05 12:15:26] - i meant paul/aaron :-( ~gurkie

[2007-04-05 12:08:50] - paul/a: i agree with her on most of those things... cept for the girly drinks and the weird sports cars ~gurkie

[2007-04-05 11:54:10] - a: i'll be there too - aaron

[2007-04-05 11:21:07] - a: I just thought it would be funny to quote what you said to Dave earlier. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-05 11:12:01] - a: I'm not touching that one with a hundred-foot pole :P - vinnie

[2007-04-05 11:10:38] - vinnie:  so being a believer doesn't stop them from being scientists.  fair enough.  . . . maybe being a believer stops them from being good scientists?  :-P  ~a

[2007-04-05 11:10:08] - yeah I'll be there - vinnie

[2007-04-05 11:09:54] - *I took it to mean - vinnie

[2007-04-05 11:09:01] - amy/ddr:  nvcc this week?  ~a

[2007-04-05 11:08:45] - a: I think it to mean a conflict that prevents one from being both a scientist and a theist. there may be smaller conflicts between the two, but nothing big enough that stops them from being both a scientist and a theist - vinnie

[2007-04-05 11:07:33] - it is sad, i feel like a part of me has died since i stopped playing ddr .( -amy

[2007-04-05 11:07:23] - where is ddr today? i'm kind of thinking about going... it will be the last time i can ever go basically (i've got students next week!) -amy

[2007-04-05 10:38:17] - dave/paul:  his claim is that all theistic working scientists find no conflict.  my claim is that there is at least one theistic working scientist that finds at least one conflict.  my claim is many orders of magnitude less exceptional.  do you even disagree with me?  ~a

[2007-04-05 10:35:24] - anyways, whether it's a "claim" or an "opinion" is irrelevant.  ~a

[2007-04-05 10:34:37] - paul/dave:  he said that all theistic working scientists find no conflict.  how is that an opinion?  ~a

[2007-04-05 10:25:22] - a: Oh snap! -Paul

[2007-04-05 10:15:39] - aba: the thing i am worried about is that it is a huge fruit bowl, if there is any impact from the side, i'm not sure if peanuts or bubble wrap on the inside would be enough to hold it up, since those things can be compressed. i don't know if that makes any sense. ^_^; -amy

[2007-04-05 09:43:17] - a: well, it might just be his opinion, just like it's your opinion that they do find conflict with it.  One could conjecture that his opinion might have more weight than yours since he is a part of that community and you aren't -dave

[2007-04-05 09:18:21] - s/on/out/ - mig

[2007-04-05 09:17:48] - dave:  that's not terribly surprising.  depending on the particular interpertation of the book of genesis evolution can fit in with on real contradictions. - mig

[2007-04-05 09:03:22] - "Actually, I find no conflict here, and neither apparently do the 40 percent of working scientists who claim to be believers." presumptuous?  how does he know that they find no conflict?  i think that they must find SOME conflict especially with the literal word of god (which many christians believe).  ~a

[2007-04-05 09:00:08] - well i guess i was wrong.  ~a

[2007-04-05 08:58:50] - dave:  then i can only assume he's not christian.  ~a

[2007-04-05 07:41:52] - http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html director of the national human genome research institute believes in God, and finds no conflict with the scientific findings of evolution -dave

[2007-04-04 23:25:36] - amy:  you could always wrap it in the bubble stuff and then put it in a box with newspaper or those foam peanuts.  that should be good enough for almost anything you need to ship.  -  aba

[2007-04-04 22:18:15] - aba: well yeah i don't want to break it either .p but i figure there must be some place where people at least know how to do it to minimize chance of damage, even if they don't claim any responsibility. well i guess i'll just go to the PO tomorrow and see what they've got. -amy

[2007-04-04 19:13:15] - http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070404083030.ootuegy7&show_article=1 the uk is really starting to scare me. - mig

[2007-04-04 18:18:12] - paul: mmm frozen mudslides. - aaron

[2007-04-04 17:55:22] - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bachelor/review1 "...guys who wear black jeans or black tennis shoes..." Whoops. -Paul

[2007-04-04 16:12:47] - mig: was that Mr Slade? yeah iirc caught a lot of flak for asking those kinds of questions at my nearby voting center - aaron

[2007-04-04 15:45:20] - amy:  i doubt you'll find a place like that b/c they'll all be worried about getting in trouble if it breaks.  -  aba

[2007-04-04 14:38:56] - does anybody know of a place where they will package something fragile in addition to sending it? i don't mean just sell the bubble tape or whatever, but actually wrap it themselves... i'm afraid i won't know how to wrap this thing so that it won't break. -amy

[2007-04-04 13:50:33] - Legislature writes the laws.  Executive enforces them.  Judiciary interprets them.  So, Legislature wrote a law about regulating harmful air polutants.  Judiciary interprets CO2 as a harmful air polutant.  System works. -- Xpovos

[2007-04-04 13:30:13] - in fact he had that as one of our "mini-projects" for class. - mig

[2007-04-04 13:29:27] - aba:  my government teacher thought it was alright to "shadow" voters at the polls. - mig

[2007-04-04 12:48:41] - aba: I suppose you're right. I don't know how the Clean Air Act is worded but if it says the EPA is required to regulate dangerous emissions than I suppose the Supreme Court would have the authority to rule on it. -Paul

[2007-04-04 12:34:49] - paul:  the supreme court has the authority to enforce laws passed by congress and the president.  don't you remember hs govt class?  :P  -  aba

[2007-04-04 12:18:30] - I dunno, I don't really have time to get into a big debate about this, but it just seems a little questionable that the Supreme Court has the authority to tell government agencies what they must do. -Paul

[2007-04-04 12:17:16] - aba: So they can act on it by assigning a monkey to enforce it? :-) -Paul

[2007-04-04 12:13:01] - paul:  the SC did not however say anything about the method of regulation...... just the epa is required by law to act on this matter.  -  aba

[2007-04-04 12:12:00] - paul:  the epa could have demonstrated that co2 was not harmful, but they didn't.  in fact, they pretty much didn't even try to refute any of the states' claims.  -  aba

[2007-04-04 12:10:59] - paul:  congress created a law saying that the epa must regulate harmful air pollutants under the clean air act.  MA + some other states demonstrated that co2 was extremely harmful to their population and economy due to things like sea level rise and agricultural impacts.  therefore the epa by law needs to regulate co2.  -  aba

[2007-04-04 11:49:52] - there was also a case in brazil where someone wants to have another chimp be added as a litigant in a lawsuit ... crazy batshit insaneness... - mig

[2007-04-04 11:45:34] - http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2047459,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=12 australian court to rule if a chimp is entitled to be considered a person ..... - mig

[2007-04-04 11:43:55] - a: I suppose. I'm just not entirely sure how one sues a government agency for not restricting ghg emissions. -Paul

[2007-04-04 11:36:47] - but i guess he just got his email address wrong. .p -amy

[2007-04-04 11:36:34] - sam: that's interesting. i always thought there was somebody with my email address but with . in it somewhere because i get other peoples' mail, too. there is some alex hsieh who is applying to college, and i'm getting a lot of mail from universities trying to recruit him... i thought perhaps he left off the . in his email address on his SATs or something. -amy

[2007-04-04 11:34:01] - aba: Hmmm, I suppose your analogy is a better one. I still think it's a little bit of a stretch for the Supreme Court to be telling a government agency that they should be doing something. -Paul

[2007-04-04 11:09:17] - paul:  i probably just don't understand the actual situation . . . but hypothetically, if a prosecutor charged the epa of breaking a "law" or regulation or whatever, then it's the courts' job to handle that litigation.  ~a

[2007-04-04 11:07:55] - paul:  the epa failed to rebutt these claims, and thus is responsible for taking some action against co2 since they have been mandated by congress to do so.  -  aba

[2007-04-04 11:07:10] - paul:  no that doesn't compare.  the supreme court isn't telling the epa how to regulate co2 at all..... it's like if the supreme court told the irs that they were failing in their duties because they were not taxing people at all.  under the language of the clean air act, MA (among other states) demonstrated that co2 was damaging and needs to be regulated. - aba

[2007-04-04 11:02:23] - a: I mean, what if the Supreme Court suddenly decided that the IRS should be taxing people at a flat rate of 20% instead of what they're currently doing? -Paul

[2007-04-04 11:01:53] - a: Even if there were, though, I don't see how the Supreme Court finds the authority to determine what a government agency should be doing. -Paul

[2007-04-04 10:53:49] - paul:  was there a legal action taken against the epa?  if so, then it's obviously their turf.  ~a

[2007-04-04 10:46:45] - aba: Well, I'm not saying the EPA is right, I just wonder where the Supreme Court finds the authority to do this. It's an even bigger stretch than judicial review. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-04 10:37:50] - paul:  well, i don't think it's the supreme court's place to tell the epa how to regulate co2..... i do think that this is a check to say that the epa shouldn't be slacking at their job and avoiding the topic.  -  aba

[2007-04-04 10:26:41] - aba: Interesting. I know this somewhat misses the point, but I think I agree with the dissenters in that I don't see how this is an issue for the Supreme Court. -Paul

[2007-04-04 10:08:10] - paul:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040200487.html  -  aba

[2007-04-04 10:01:14] - Or maybe Pat Summit. -Paul

[2007-04-04 10:01:05] - Sam: Probably sneaking up behind Parker with a knife... ;-) -Paul

[2007-04-04 10:00:23] - aba: I'm not familiar enough with the clean air act to know what regulating ghg emissions under it would entail. I imagine solar and wind power would reach equivalent pricing to coal and natural gas if/when we start running low on those resources. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-04 09:30:43] - nevermind... this explains the mystery... http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=%67mail&hl=en&answer=10313  -sam

[2007-04-04 09:28:33] - -sam

[2007-04-04 09:28:27] - getting sent to him... -sa

[2007-04-04 09:28:11] - i'm not sure if this is a bug or not with gmail... my email address is sampatton@gmail.com but I also get emails that are sent to sam.patton@gmail.com.  I went to the login page to see if I could login as sam.patton but it won't let me in.  So someone else must have the sam.patton account.  I wonder if that person knows that I'm getting all the emails that are getting sent

[2007-04-04 09:14:18] - http://www.blackwidowbakery.com/demo/meatcake/ meat cake - aaron

[2007-04-04 09:06:14] - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040201568_pf.html "The probable cause to arrest the protesters as they retrieved food from their parked van? They were wearing black -- a color choice the FBI and police associated with anarchists, according to the police records." - mig

[2007-04-04 08:55:29] - sam: Getting a heavily milked coffee? -- Xpovos

[2007-04-04 08:42:24] - paul: candace parker's team just won the championship!!! what's ivory latta doing? -sam

[2007-04-04 08:17:54] - aba: actually, i bet we'll be fairly green within our lifetimes. -dave

[2007-04-04 08:16:52] - aba: apparently there are already a buncha plants in places where the geo-circumstances make it easy to do and now they were looking to exploit more difficult areas -dave

[2007-04-04 08:15:48] - aba: i read an interesting financial article on a technology that channels hot water (i think?) from underground and uses the temperature difference to generate power -dave

[2007-04-04 01:05:53] - paul:  i'd like to see wind power and solar power reach equivalent pricing to coal or natural gas power, fully electric or solar powered cars, economically viable carbon capture and sequestration methods, distributed generation technologies, a nationwide emphasis on energy efficiency and about a billion other things.  :)  -  aba

[2007-04-04 01:03:41] - 't promote economically feasible r&d...... they just encourage the use of a really expensive technology (and ethanol in particular is to help out heavily ag states).  -  aba

[2007-04-04 01:02:44] - paul:  i think forcing the epa to regulate ghg emissions under the clean air act is a huuuuge step in the right direction.  subsidies don

[2007-04-04 00:30:05] - aba: What does treating ghg emissions as pollutants involve? Aren't we already encouraging r&d into green technologies with ethanol subsidies and the like? -Paul

[2007-04-03 22:49:47] - paul:  i also think that we need to examine mitigation strategies for sea level rise and changes to climate (agriculture, drinking water, disease) because this will all become unavoidable very soon.  hiding our collective heads in the sand will do us no good at all.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 22:48:08] - paul:  my solution is to a) treat ghg emissions as pollutants, b) actually encourage r&d into competing "green" technologies instead of shutting them down, c) tie into global movements since this is a global problem.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 22:46:33] - dave:  predicting the weather on the fine resolution of meters is a completely different ballgame vs predicting climate on a coarse resolution/global scale!  just because we can't model the small wiggles doesn't mean that we are getting the big picture trends incorrect.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 22:18:29] - hmmm.  on second thought i guess that wouldn't help global warming.  we need to put fewer pollutants into the atmosphere?  bike to work?  ~a

[2007-04-03 21:59:26] - paul:  i do!  reduce and reuse.  (and recycle when it's benefitial; which as far as i can tell right now is all of the time despite what you've said about glass).  also i suggest somehow educating the public through the message board.  :-D  ~a

[2007-04-03 21:21:29] - aba: Just out of curiosity, what do you propose as a solution for global warming? -Paul

[2007-04-03 21:14:33] - aba: I think I've done that before (responded to myself). I'm not sure why, but it just seems right to put my name before I type my message. -Paul

[2007-04-03 20:02:46] - well, at any rate, i agree that we're making it worse. -dave

[2007-04-03 20:00:56] - i mean heck, take the stock market, something that we've created ourselves, and with far fewer variables in a sense, we can't even predict that -dave

[2007-04-03 20:00:02] - i don't doubt that you know what you're talking about, and I do agree that we probably have made it worse than it's supposed to be, but at the same time, if we can't predict the weather  3 weeks from now, how do we accurately predict all that? -dave

[2007-04-03 19:47:30] - noobies!

[2007-04-03 19:23:53] - hahahaha.  i got so excited i mis-responded to myself.  :(  i'm a silly noob. -  aba

[2007-04-03 19:23:21] - aba:  the point is not whether natural forcings have an impact on the pattern of warming, it's that we are contributing significantly to it by the sheer volume of ghg emissions in a very short period of time.  co2 also has a lifetime int he atmosphere of >100 years so we are committed to warming in the future even if we stopped all emissions right now.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 19:20:03] - paul:  i can continue on to talk about detection and attribution studies that have examined the spatial pattern of warming across the earth in terms of atmospheric circulation patterns and how it is consistent with warming due to the ghg effect...... but that would be overkill.  :P  -  aba

[2007-04-03 19:18:49] - paul:  the numbers are not exact, but the degree of certainty is enough to say that 1.3 w/m^2 is significantly different from 2.7 w/m^2.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 19:17:59] - dave:  we should've actually seen a slight global cooling due to volcanic activity, but we didn't because of the ghg effect.  >.>  sorry to get all up at arms about this, but i've spent the last two years studying climate change and there's a lot of misinformation out there.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 19:17:58] - aba: anthropogenic.... (looks up on dictionary.com) couldn't you have just said human? :-) -Paul

[2007-04-03 19:16:58] - aba: Wow, we have enough data to know how much an increase in solar activity would have on the earth warming to such an exact degree? -Paul

[2007-04-03 19:16:01] - dave:  greenhouse gas emissions are able to explain the degree of warming that we see right now and are not expected to decrease any time soon in the future..... hence the worry about continued global warming caused by anthropogenic influence.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 19:14:55] - dave:  i'm saying looking at the lowest solar activity to highest solar activity in our record and our knowledge of physics, we can calculate what impact solar variation has on the earth's climate.  it's not enough to explain the observed warming..... also because it's a natural variation, it eventually goes down.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 18:27:56] - like if the sun went up 2 deg, we might go up 4, no? -dave

[2007-04-03 18:24:21] - aba: or you're saying that the variation in sun heat doesn't equal the increase in heat we've had? well, that makes sense right, given we have a greenhouse effect? -dave

[2007-04-03 18:23:29] - aba: actually, nevermind. i guess you're saying that the info i saw that the sun was the hottest its been in 1k years was wrong -dave

[2007-04-03 18:19:50] - aba:  how did we get trough to peak variation from 1k years ago? -dave

[2007-04-03 18:16:23] - aba: just that an assumption i had earlier (that if there was global warming, we were the cause) may not necessarily be true -dave

[2007-04-03 18:16:00] - aba: not saying at all that we shouldn't try to be careful or try to make things better -dave

[2007-04-03 18:15:08] - aba: and obviously the greenhouse effect does exist, so that's definitely a part of it. but maybe we're just egotistical in thinking that we're the cause of it -dave

[2007-04-03 18:13:56] - aba: in other words, yeah, we may be not helping matters, but there's also reason to believe that global warming would have happened anways, regardless of whatever we did -dave

[2007-04-03 18:13:12] - aba: i wasn't talking about the warming on the earth so much as the fact that the warming occurs on the other planets as well -dave

[2007-04-03 16:38:45] - dave:  oh snap!  ~a

[2007-04-03 16:05:19] - dave:  at least not the warming on the earth that is.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 16:04:49] - dave: actually, that's part of the natural variability of the solar cycle..... if you look at the trough to peak variation it only adds up to a radiative forcing of 1.3 w/m^2 whereas the observed change so far has been around 2.7 w/m^2.  solar couldn't explain the warming all by itself.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 16:01:13] - all of my passwords used to have a common theme, but I ran out of things that fit that theme when, for example, I had to change my password twice a month and it couldn't match any of my previous 25 passwords in south carolina.  Now I have a bunch of wildly varying passwords all over the place, and I end up using reset features more often than I like to admit. - pierce

[2007-04-03 15:56:23] - a: yeah one of my coworkers found it on dailywtf - aaron

[2007-04-03 15:47:50] - and i never knew that the sun is at its highest activity in 1k years and that that is a potential explanation for the warming either -dave

[2007-04-03 15:47:24] - you know what's curious, i never knew that mars, jupiter, pluto, venus, etc are all going through global warming as well -dave

[2007-04-03 14:51:00] - for all my work related stuff that i can't use my theme for anything, i just write them down and put them by my desk since well ... we don't care about it if other people know it. - mig

[2007-04-03 14:50:13] - all my passwords are in my head.  i don't vary them all that much but they have a similar theme.  yes i know that's bad, but whateva. - mig

[2007-04-03 14:12:06] - aaron:  hey!  click on the correction "horse" and look at the first link.  ~a

[2007-04-03 14:08:07] - paul:  so it's two?  ~a

[2007-04-03 14:02:36] - a: How would it be four? -Paul

[2007-04-03 14:00:41] - is nevertheless one word or four?  ~a

[2007-04-03 13:13:11] - i like using lyrics because (kind of like paul's passwords) they're easy to remember and look really random. take on me's chorus becomes "t1mtm1ibgiad|2" - aaron

[2007-04-03 13:06:21] - a: well yeah, i don't really care that much, i'm not sure how much one could deduce from what i said. but i wouldn't mind if you took it out, as long as you're taking stuff out. -amy

[2007-04-03 13:05:27] - xpovos: weird, i am the same way about alphanumeric strings. i also rarely forget birthdays, and know way too many phone numbers (i don't really see any ssns) -amy

[2007-04-03 12:56:03] - Which is not to say all my passwords are secure.  A number of my older ones are pretty poor. -- Xpovos

[2007-04-03 12:55:34] - a: I don't mind mine.  It's pretty secure.  My PDA is usually on my person, the password protecting the PDA is very strong and the key to figuring it out would only be known by one other person who doesn't know about this.  Then the file itself is also encrypted, so--I'm good. --Xpovos

[2007-04-03 12:44:13] - paul: that was roughly half a year ago -dave

[2007-04-03 12:40:45] - Paul: what's even funnier is that the only activity on it was to buy 10 Russell 2000 futures -dave

[2007-04-03 12:39:49] - Paul: I think it's actually fairly common for test accounts to make more. I started one in Oct that gave 100k and it's like at 167k now -dave

[2007-04-03 12:22:18] - a: I don't care, I don't plan on going back to my Buffy passwords again. They were one shot deals. -Paul

[2007-04-03 12:15:41] - i for one don't really think my own comment should stick around :-\  ~a

[2007-04-03 12:15:02] - paul/amy:  if you guys would feel more comfortable, i can remove all these messages from the message board . . .  ~a

[2007-04-03 12:10:32] - amy: I store my passwords in an encrypted file behind my password protected PDA.  Most of the time though that's just a precaution as I have a better than average capacity for memorizing seemingly trivial strings of data.  I rarely forget birthdays, e.g. and know way too many SSNs. -- Xpovos

[2007-04-03 11:46:05] - *notices topic* oh happy birthday aba! .D -amy

[2007-04-03 11:45:41] - vinnie: and email is sooo secure ,) -amy

[2007-04-03 11:43:27] - amy: e-mailed you because I don't feel like talking about my password security on the mboard :) - vinnie

[2007-04-03 11:43:22] - Amy: Yeah, I actually have I think two accounts which I can't access anymore because none of the passwords I can think of work. I still think it's Verizon's fault, though. -Paul

[2007-04-03 11:42:18] - Perhaps I've gone one comment too far.... :-) -Paul

[2007-04-03 11:41:10] - nice! *breaks into all of paul's accounts* ,) -amy

[2007-04-03 11:40:00] - Amy: For instance, seven of my passwords were based on the seven seasons of Buffy. "btvs1:tm" stood for "Buffy the Vampire Slayer 1: The Master" which is the main villian from the first season. -Paul

[2007-04-03 11:36:58] - Amy: In those cases, I simply try all three until one works. At work, I have to change my password fairly frequently so I try to come up with some pattern I can remember. -Paul

[2007-04-03 11:36:00] - Amy: I try to have the same password for all my accounts but some places don't like non alpha-numeric characters so I end up having around three passwords I use. -Paul

[2007-04-03 11:33:25] - i always wondered what other people do. -amy

[2007-04-03 11:33:20] - random question for all: how do you store your passwords? i totally understand if nobody wants to answer this question, i'm just curious because you're not supposed to write them down of course, and having the same password for everything also seems like bad security, but then you just have to memorize a million different passwords for all your accounts? ...

[2007-04-03 10:55:24] - happy birthday aba! - vinnie

[2007-04-03 10:41:47] - aba, np.  - title

[2007-04-03 10:24:23] - title: thanks.  -  aba

[2007-04-03 10:20:08] - A part of me is greatly amused by how much better my "fake" portfolio is doing compared to my real one. :-) -Paul

[2007-04-03 10:19:21] - axpovos: Top 4% now. :-P -Paul

[2007-04-03 09:33:50] - aaron:  lol.  ~a

[2007-04-03 08:59:09] - http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+hook+up+a+hose+to+a+kitchen+sink - aaron

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