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[2024-09-05 14:28:51] - a: I enjoy Harstem's videos. Hadn't seen this one yet. I often wonder what it would take for me to beat a grandmaster. Could two of us (you, me, Daniel, Mark, Dewey) beat one? Could I do it with a one minute head start? -Paul

[2024-05-01 18:05:34] - a: I think its just any nexus needs energy for the overcharge.  Could test it against very easy ai or something though to be 100%.  -Daniel

[2024-04-24 04:38:08] - I  use chrono's on probes for like the first four? five? minutes then save (forget) about it until i need it for a battery overcharge.  Sometimes I chrono upgrades but mostly forget.    -Daniel

[2024-04-21 19:11:21] - Daniel: I definitely need to be smarter with choosing my upgrades. I still kind of mindlessly go for both attack and armor at the same time as if they are both equally important. I do tend to prioritize attack upgrades for Skytoss since I typically only have one cyber core and I know attack upgrades are important for carriers. -Paul

[2024-04-18 19:37:43] - Same thing on the flip side that the carrier with upgrades probably has interceptors that are like 100% better than the non upgraded since they start with such small damage so its a bigger percentage increase vs other units.  -Daniel

[2024-04-18 17:48:33] - Partly that is because armor upgrades matter so much against carriers because they rely on lots of small hits that don't do much damage.  So with armor you make all those small hits do almost nothing.  Its why with corrupters against carriers you always go armor upgrades first.  -Daniel

[2024-04-08 16:44:14] - a:Vote on SC2? -Daniel

[2024-03-26 19:03:04] - I mean once its not supported gravity goes to work real quick but still crazy to watch.  -Daniel

[2024-03-26 19:02:45] - -Daniel

[2024-03-04 21:05:36] - daniel:  yeah . . . i think so.  i'm going on travel this week and next week i'm on vacation.  the week of the 18th will be MUCH more quiet.  ~a

[2024-03-04 17:26:32] - a: You still out on SC2 for time being?  -Daniel

[2024-02-14 15:11:16] - Daniel: "IMO states should be able to decide who goes on or not", "I also don't think it would be that different than an electoral map" I think I agree with both of these, but I also think this would just pour gasoline on the partisanship and high stakes over the purple states. Instead of wondering who is going to win Ohio or Pennslyvania.... we wonder if the opposing candidate is going to even be on the ballot. -Paul

[2024-02-14 02:24:36] - a: We're playing tonight! -Daniel

[2024-02-13 16:05:04] - a: any votes on SC2 night?  -Daniel

[2024-02-13 01:40:24] - I guess it would enforce more partisanship since you wouldn't really be able to vote split  party tickets anymore if suddenly states were just removing candidates they didn't like.  -Daniel

[2024-02-13 01:39:33] - I'd have to check but how many states with their state house controlled by one party ended up going for the other party in the electoral college?  GA?  NV maybe? or AZ?  I guess those would have been enough to swing an election so its still 'important' but also only effecting three states out of the total makes it not as crazy.  -Daniel

[2024-02-13 01:38:06] - Yeah I think I mostly agree with Miguel's statement there.  IMO states should be able to decide who goes on or not cause like the age thing we already have them with the power to do so.  And while I'm not sure that its a good look for subjective reasons (ie insurrection without conviction) I also don't think it would be that different than an electoral map.  -Daniel

[2024-01-16 23:44:24] - a: Fair - I think there will always be some baseline but yeah for others  I could see things that influence the decision.  Without evidence or proof my hypothesis would be that the numbers are driven more by situations and context of what their home countries is like.  Or that those outweigh US policies at least.  -Daniel

[2024-01-16 19:24:42] - daniel:  "regardless of any security measures they will make the attempt" this fails to recognize the major change in 2021, though, right?  the graph i posted seemed to have a 4-5x change in the number of apprehensions.  no?  if regardless of any security measures, people will make the attempt, then why-for do we see so many more coming in 2021 than we did in (say) 2014 or 2018?  it's not a small change.  ~a

[2024-01-16 18:44:03] - I'd rather live in US than any other country south of it?  I think for a lot of people that is true as well and is true enough that regardless of any security measures they will make the attempt.  If you can get  your kids in here vs somewhere else people are willing to risk a lot (including death) for that shot.  -Daniel

[2024-01-09 22:12:55] - I'm similar enough to Adrian.  I think having a short term bucket that is invested in stocks is probably not how I would do it but depends I guess on risk tolerance and how badly you are chasing returns.  I think in general you seem pretty out on low return things I think?  So maybe a stock like verizon is better for a short term bucket than some startup.  -Daniel

[2023-12-22 21:30:45] - paul:  arkk has not.  the s&p500 has, the nasdaq has, the dow industrials average has, basically every broad based index investor in the united states is back to where they were when this all started.  they're even above where they were, if they held a healthy dose of bonds.  where are daniel & matt to preach the gospel . . .  ~a

[2023-12-14 17:04:04] - Daniel might be interested in this, but I've got some excess money outside of retirement funds where I want something a little safer and so I plopped it into Altria (MO) and Verizon (VZ) for those juicy yields. -Paul

[2023-12-06 15:24:44] - Daniel: Following up on my gripe with the redraft league last night: I drafted two QBs (Anthony Ricahrdson and Kirk Cousins) and in the weeks I had them available (weeks 1-8), my team went 6-2. In the weeks after, I went 1-4. So, yeah, my team wasn't great and likely wasn't going to win it all, but losing both my starting and backup QB just killed my team. -Paul

[2023-10-31 15:01:00] - "Attempting to educate consumers of the poor quality of their information intake is a very uphill battle. " - so true!    -Daniel

[2023-10-05 12:48:13] - daniel:  doubt?  Right now it's looking like it's Scalise or Jordan for the new speaker, who seem much more aligned with hard right.  On top of that, if I'm a moderate republican I don't know why I'd want to work with the Dem side after this either. - mig

[2023-10-05 04:45:10] - mig: I guess this is more facilitating your opponent hitting themselves?  I don't think the country is destroyed yet certainly and if the R's aren't able to form a majority within their party I do think it will be very interesting and perhaps better for D's whatever comes out of that.  -Daniel

[2023-10-04 20:55:29] - daniel:  “Otherwise just getting out of the way when your opponent wants to hit themselves?” Except that not what Ds did?  Gaetz’s rebellion goes nowhere without the help of House Ds, which they all happily gave. - mig

[2023-10-04 20:38:22] - mig: I don't know how it shakes out but if it eventually helps to convince R's to not cave to the furthest right members and instead seek alternatives (moderate D's somewhere on some policy) that could be a win?  But its probably to early to say if that actually has any merit.  Otherwise just getting out of the way when your opponent wants to hit themselves?  -Daniel

[2023-09-28 02:30:07] - daniel:  its less that than a) the trade that i thought would have processed post week 3 ended up for week 3 and b) one of the players i traded for is out for the season.  - mig

[2023-09-27 14:24:27] - mig: Also sorry about your redraft team score.  Thats some definite ouch.  -Daniel

[2023-09-27 14:23:04] - paul: Thanks - hopefully this next week goes much smoother.  -Daniel

[2023-09-26 19:25:52] - Daniel: Not sure if I'll be able to congratulate you at SC tonight, but congrats on squeaking out your victory in the keeper league! You had to have been sweating that. -Paul

[2023-09-20 19:10:36] - Daniel: I guess I don't have the optimism that things will get better. Every election (especially the past few) I tell myself that "it can't possibly get any worse than this", and it seems I keep getting proven wrong. It's not just for president, though. Have we had a sadder set of congress-people? Between radical cuckoos like MTG and AOC and Boebert and those with clear mental deficiencies.... -Paul

[2023-09-20 14:14:07] - daniel:  yeah i hope a lot more governors (and lesser-known senators/house-members) start running for president for 2028.  i think we agree that this election will be disappointing regardless of what happens, but i kinda think we felt that way in 2020 as well.  ~a

[2023-09-20 14:06:38] - Like if we end up with Ivanka Trump v Harris in 2028 that would be dissapointing.  However maybe its Repub Gov X and Dem Gov Y thats not so bad?  -Daniel

[2023-09-20 14:04:59] - So not sure who shows up after them.  -Daniel

[2023-09-07 15:27:18] - Daniel: Piggy backing on our post-SC2 discussion.... I just realized I have Dameon Pierce in all three leagues I am in. -Paul

[2023-08-28 16:17:32] - Paul: I don't have any emotional connection to the uncle (I have like one memory I think of him and its super random) but my mom was always much more sensitive to cyclists / bikers so I think it rubbed off some.  But like I've said I can't swear that I check every time either.  -Daniel

[2023-08-25 23:26:28] - Daniel: Yeesh, sorry to hear. I do my best to be as safe a driver as I can, but I have had at least two interactions in my life where I'm pretty sure a cyclist has thought I was being very irresponsible and I have to admit it was a dangerous situation. -paul

[2023-08-21 20:59:22] - a: sc2 night? -Daniel

[2023-08-21 19:28:23] - paul: I do try to check my sideview mirror (but I think that might be influenced by Adrian here) but I can't swear I do it everytime.  I also had an uncle killed (when I was like three) on a bike by a car so its always been a bit more of a thing in my family.  -Daniel

[2023-08-15 19:04:23] - daniel:  i finally bought a meme stock.  amc @ ~$3.5 (i did read that there is a reverse split in the works)  ~a

[2023-08-14 19:56:59] - a: Sc2 night? -Daniel

[2023-07-28 19:17:58] - daniel:  yeah, hedging against a us-only recession seems like part of it.  another scenario is the US has shitty growth compared to the world.  it could happen, but i'm not sure i have an idea how likely the scenario is.  ~a

[2023-07-28 18:54:11] - a: I've wondered that too (in regard to international vs us) Seems like a bit of a  hedge against a US based recession in some regards but since the US is such a global economic engine I don't know if the US would have a recession without impacting other things as well.  -Daniel

[2023-07-24 14:56:35] - Daniel: Yeah, Adrian nailed it. It was < $50, so possibly not worth the hassle, but now that I know the process, it's easier, It's barely anything in absolute terms, but it's better than nothing? -Paul

[2023-07-24 14:30:14] - daniel:  i've found just keeping a cash balance in my vanguard account nets me almost as much as the best cds or the best bonds.  ~a

[2023-07-24 14:28:24] - daniel:  yeah, i think we discussed that when we talked about this in may.  "$41" was the total with the math i came up with.  i told paul "i think you'll need way more time or way more money to get more returns"  ~a

[2023-07-24 14:24:35] - Paul: Was it enough money to actually generate a return in that month or two?  Sometimes I think about stuff like that but over two months it would just be like 25 dollars if that for the return and then I just can't be bothered.  -Daniel

[2023-07-21 21:14:25] - a: I think once you are retired you can just stay in vtinx or at that point it would depend on your withdrawal strategy probably and how much / often you were withdrawing and what specific big purchases did you antipicate at what point.  -Daniel

[2023-07-21 21:13:23] - a: I've started to buy I-Bonds directly as part of our retirement plan.  -Daniel

[2023-07-21 17:58:38] - daniel:  "people don't actually know the diff b/w a stock and a bond"  ugh, i wish i better understood why bond funds have been losing so much money over the past 2 years.  it makes me wonder if buying bonds directly and holding them isn't smarter?  i know paul was talking here about t-bills the other day.  ~a

[2023-07-21 17:56:44] - daniel:  my spending goals in retirement are to be the same as they are today (indexed against cpi-u).  if i buy a boat or whatever, it'll fit in those spending goals.  i'll try to amortize any big expenditures like that over 5 or 10 years.  ~a

[2023-07-21 17:55:08] - daniel:  target date index funds don't seem to work "in" retirement, though.  for instance, there is no longer a vanguard 2010 target date fund or 2015 target date fund.  those closed, ~5 years after the retirement dates past, and your money got automatically reinvested into vtinx.  ~a

[2023-07-21 17:53:21] - I always offer more in depth explanations, like most people don't actually know the diff b/w a stock and a bond and why those things make you money, but generally they don't really want that.  -Daniel

[2023-07-21 17:52:42] - Generally for my family and friends I just direct them towards whatever the age approriate target date fund is because if they are coming to me for advice it mostly means they don't want to have to think to much about it.  So easy / straightforward is generally the way to go.  -Daniel

[2023-07-21 17:51:52] - a: (i mean these roads are probably leading to target date index funds but...)  How long till you retire?  Spending goals in retirement?  Want to buy a boat or anything?  -Daniel

[2023-07-21 17:37:37] - daniel:  i want to retire, and spend it, a little bit of time, until i die.  capital preservation.  cyclocross / gravel trails / mtb.  ~a

[2023-07-21 17:36:56] - riding across town?  dirt trails?  racing?  neighborhood cruising?  -Daniel

[2023-07-21 17:36:22] - a: depends on what you want to do with it / what its for! -Daniel

[2023-07-21 16:11:23] - daniel:  where should i invest my money?  ~a

[2023-07-20 19:44:45] - a: I haven't seen it yet or paid much attention but I can imagine its a bit less of a happy place (puns!) -Daniel

[2023-07-20 19:28:08] - daniel:  if you were disappointed with the "fuck" profanity (fuckcars) last time . . .  i have bad news for you.  ~a

[2023-07-20 18:39:21] - Daniel: Possibility means 50/50. I think this qualifies! -Paul

[2023-07-20 16:05:42] - paul: You said Thursday was a possibility!  I feel betrayed.  -Daniel

[2023-07-20 16:03:48] - a: "r/place is only available on our mobile apps (iOS and Android) and new Reddit. " - its a popular thing and they want people to switch over to these tools.  I bet they thought what incentive can we give people to use these and came up with place.  -Daniel

[2023-07-20 14:28:17] - daniel:  why would reddit bring back place NOW.  of all times?  there's a 100% chance a good half of the themes will be how much people are pissed off at reddit.  you wanna bring back place, sure, but at least give it a few more months for things to cool off.  fuck.  ~a

[2023-07-18 20:14:28] - daniel:  no, you didn't compare them.  you did, however, complain that bitcoin was boiling the ocean (hyperbole).  and, i know you're pretty pro-EV even though cars kill millions of people every year worldwide.  ~a

[2023-07-18 20:12:30] - a: Did I compare electric cars to bitcoin?  I def don't remember doing that.  I would think that the better comparison would be to what their replacing?  So electric cars vs reg cars or even electric cars vs bikes for you!  Bitcoin vs money or credit card transactions?  Though I think that would also be tough to figure out?  -Daniel

[2023-07-18 20:07:39] - daniel:  5.  about 106 million people worldwide use bitcoin.  looks like electric cars use 4663 kWh/person/year (or 532 W/person).  and bitcoin users use 1198 kWh/person/year (or 137 W/person).  (13476/100*34.6e3 vs 127e12/106e6)  thoughts?  ~a

[2023-07-18 20:06:24] - daniel:  with a bunch of assumptions:  1. that the user of a car and the user of bitcoin are treated similarly (i get that a bitcoin user might not care about the output of their transactions compared to a transportation user's need to get where they're going).  2.  13476 miles per year driver per person avg.  3.  electric cars use 34.6 kWh per 100 miles (averaged over 231 EVs).  4.  bitcoin uses ~127 TWh/y (this is a noisy figure).  ~a

[2023-07-18 19:58:46] - daniel:  i did some envelope-math on a conversation we've had a few times but ties into a more recent conversation.  inspired by this meme:  https://i.redd.it/6tthx4p5vpbb1.jpg  ~a

[2023-07-17 18:02:55] - daniel:  every night, thanks!  ~a

[2023-07-17 18:02:33] - a:sc2 night preference? -Daniel

[2023-07-13 19:50:51] - paul: For SC2 I think it depends on Adrian - I thought he wasn't going to be able to do much on Monday but was trying to accomodate that.  I can try to get on for some too later in the evening if Adrian wants to?  -Daniel

[2023-07-13 19:11:56] - daniel:  yeah, i did post that.  and i didn't write it.  i prioritize public transportation and walking (instead of biking), especially outside of cities.  everything else you say i agree with.  i own two cars and use them regularly.  i just wish we had more situations where that wasn't my only fucking choice.  ~a

[2023-07-13 19:08:54] - -Daniel

[2023-07-13 18:52:43] - daniel:  "How is biking more friendly for the disabled / elderly than driving?"  generally it's not.  but more specifically many disabled and elderly people cannot drive.  so public transit, walking, (and very rarely biking) are the only options for people that cannot drive.  "I would make public driving transportations options better"  yes, me too.  ~a

[2023-07-13 18:51:09] - daniel:  "you think living in a city makes cars not the optimal answer?"  that's right.  i'm not sure you ever lived and worked in dc, but unless you are in some edge case you're best off using a bus, using the metro, or actually walking (or fuck it, biking i guess)  "what counts as living in a city?"  i guess ask the census bureau, but i do agree this is a point of contention.  ~a

[2023-07-13 18:51:07] - a: How is biking more friendly for the disabled / elderly than driving?  I would make public driving transportations options better.  But that is still a driving thing not a biking thing.  -Daniel

[2023-07-13 18:49:21] - a: I'm not sure I get your point - you think living in a city makes cars not the optimal answer?  I think even living in a city I would still choose a car the vast majority of the time.  Also what counts as living in a city?  -Daniel

[2023-07-13 18:48:52] - daniel:  "I'm ok with minorities having their voice hear but"  some of these minorities are not proposing their preference, but they are proposing their predicament.  a good quarter to a third of america is either too young, too old, too poor, or two disabled to even make a choice about driving.  what do we do about them?  fuckem?  ~a

[2023-07-13 18:47:02] - daniel:  "Generally speaking I want the time and effort it takes to get from point A to point B to be some combination of fast and easy as possible"  generally speaking this applies well to you and most people who don't live in cities.  but people keep forgetting that the minority of people live outside of cities.  ~a

[2023-07-13 18:46:17] - daniel:  "I also would almost never choose one unless for the express purpose of exercise or having fun"  i'm totally fine with you doing that, of course, but not everybody has that choice.  also, even for those with that choice, it's not always the right choice.  tons of people bankrupt themselves making that choice and tons of governments bankrupt themselves setting up a system where there is no other choice.  ~a

[2023-07-13 18:44:37] - I think Pauls point to some degree is that voters mostly agree with this sentiment.  I'm ok with minorities having their voice hear but if the question is do we subsidize cars or bikes more propotionally I would also vote for the car platform 10 out 10 times.  I think this is overall your problem though with the voters / policy makers.  -Daniel

[2023-07-13 18:43:25] - Generally speaking I want the time and effort it takes to get from point A to point B to be some combination of fast and easy as possible.  If I have to go pick up my kids and it can take an hour round trip or 12 minutes round trip that 48 minutes mean I can sleep in later in the morning and still get my 8 hours of work in.  Or not have to use PTO for a lunch out.  -Daniel

[2023-07-13 18:41:20] - There are times and situations where bikes would be more efficient that you have pointed out but in my personal life I'm not sure I can think of a single instance where a bike is more time and effort efficient than using my car.  -Daniel

[2023-07-13 18:40:12] - Bikes have their place and I'm fine with people having a choice but I also would almost never choose one unless for the express purpose of exercise or having fun.  -Daniel

[2023-07-13 18:39:14] - -Daniel

[2023-07-10 19:08:07] - a: sc2 night?  -Daniel

[2023-07-05 19:51:45] - Paul: yeah i get they aren't the same situation. I just think in the general populace's eye's if the gov can make helping business's a priority and spend money on it why not making helping more individual people a priority.  I don't think its a totally equal thing just in my head I think a thing that has been building since 08 (maybe before but possible I didn't pay attention) with the to big to fail stuff.  -Daniel

[2023-07-05 14:45:48] - Daniel: So I guess if the government made being an engineer illegal, then maybe having student loan forgiveness for engineering majors might be similar to PPP loans... -Paul

[2023-07-05 14:45:00] - Daniel: I don't really get the comparison to PPP loans. I'll admit I don't fully understand the program, but I was under the impression that the method for forgiveness was baked into the program from the very beginning and thus it was more of a handout from the very start. Also, it was kind of a handout for forcibly locking down the whole economy. -Paul

[2023-07-03 21:26:32] - Paul: I don't think there is a reason like fraud or anything involved.  Just a movement that a large swath of the middle class has a chunk of debt that is student loans and that if we are forgiving businesses loans for amounts of money why not people too?  I don't think there is a deeper justification.  Just that its something that could be done and that enough people like it as a concept that it might happen.  -Daniel

[2023-07-03 19:51:10] - Daniel: I think what (genuinely) baffles me is that the concept of "if you borrow money from somebody, you should pay it back" felt like it was one of those generally agreed upon aspects of modern life. Right up there with "don't kick kittens" or "don't push grandmas in wheelchairs off cliffs". No matter what political differences people might have, reasonable people should be able to at least agree on that. -Paul

[2023-07-03 19:27:52] - daniel: i'm out this week, thanks!  ~a

[2023-07-03 18:47:04] - a: thoughts on sc2 day? -Daniel

[2023-07-03 18:46:57] - "F those kids with student loan debt" - I'd agree thats a bad take but I imagine for a lot of people that is how it feels.  I do think if you don't have to make your payment for like a year or something and then its reinstated I'd probably feel that loss of the money in my monthly budget.  -Daniel

[2023-07-01 05:26:37] - mig:  i'm not sure chris, paul, daniel, or i were tying the finances of the students to whether biden was allowed to do what he did.  i agree, it's irrelevant, but i think you were the one that brought it up.  ~a

[2023-07-01 04:18:20] - I think the rationale isn't great for the forgiveness but I don't think its completely off the wall either.    But if like Congressional R's had sued that would have made more sense to me than states.  -Daniel

[2023-07-01 04:17:36] - mig: I think the question of standing is relevant / fair.  I'm not sure Missouri is really relevant to federal gov's relationship to federal loan borrowers.  -Daniel

[2023-06-30 21:34:08] - daniel:    i agree the timeline is relevant.  . . . what both sides agreed to, is relevant too.  i feel like the executive part of the government made a pretty solid agreement that they were forgiving certain loans, for better or worse.  ~a

[2023-06-30 21:32:07] - paul:  "are you part of the 66% or the 34%?"  you didn't answer this guy.  i feel like you're part of the 34% which is against the supreme court's take.  is that right?  i think maybe you also agree with daniel, but maybe not for the same reasons?  let me know if i misunderstood you.  ~a

[2023-06-30 20:49:16] - I think the time element is the main part.  If I give you money and one minute later take it away its not a big a deal as if I give you 250 bucks a month for a year then start to collect that 250 again.  -Daniel

[2023-06-30 20:32:25] - i agree with daniel's take.  it's not cut and dry either way.  if someone gives you money then takes it back, even if they shouldn't have given it to you in the first place, you'd have an unclear characterization of what they've done exactly.  ~a

[2023-06-30 20:14:49] - Paul: I mean if a bank manager tells you your credit card bill is forgiven and set to 0 and then several months later the bank president reinstates your bill I don't think its a bad characterization to say the president made you poorer.  Maybe its a long term net no change but its not like here today gone tomorrow situation either.  -Daniel

[2023-06-30 03:47:55] - Daniel: Yeah, as I understand it (which is very little, because I am obviously not a doctor), the consideration of downsides to intervention can sometimes be hard to gauge since complications like infections or other things are hard to predict. Good luck with whatever path you choose. Do your research! -Paul

[2023-06-30 01:38:10] - Paul: Both of mine are the specialist.  I think in my particular case there is maybe science that lends towards surgery but its pretty murky and there isn't great data and there are risks with surgery which leads other doctors to be like well maybe and there isn't a great concensus as they kind of try different approaches over time and see how things go.  -Daniel

[2023-06-30 00:47:33] - Daniel: Not sure if that helps at all. Good luck! -Paul

[2023-06-30 00:47:21] - Daniel: Because the general surgeon only did like a dozen surgeries of that type a year whereas a specialist might do hundreds and be more familiar with edge cases or potential pitfalls. -Paul

[2023-06-30 00:45:23] - Daniel: I remember seeing something on twitter (take it with a grain of salt, obviously) talking about the difference between a general surgeon and a specialist and how important it can be. -Paul

[2023-06-30 00:42:18] - Daniel: Yeah, that sucks. I definitely have gotten a little less trusting of the infallibility of doctors as I've gotten older. Some is from personal experience, but also a realization that doctors are human... -Paul

[2023-06-29 21:02:16] - daniel:  third opinion?  i know these opinions probably aren't cheap, but the risk is probably high to either course.  ~a

[2023-06-29 19:51:51] - On a more personal version - I got a second opinion from a surgeon recently on my stomach issues and he was like nah you don't need surgery.  So now I have two surgeons giving me directly opposing advice and I'm trying to do research to figure out what way to go.  So I definitely have sympathy for the concept of the medical professionals just saying "trust me" being insuffcient.  -Daniel

[2023-06-29 19:50:23] - But also - Trump is the one who was talking about injecting bleach so in that case one should definitely not just trust him and definitely do your own research to determine if thats a good plan.  -Daniel

[2023-06-29 19:49:33] - "take my word for it" but "I implore you to do your own research" - This is tricky cause I think it depends a lot on the context of things.  I feel like Covid showed that people (as a broad term) don't always have a full grasp of the scientific method and can translate from "this medicine might have some beneficial effects on X" to "The answer to covid is this medicine" and that those aren't the same statement.  -Daniel

[2023-06-28 15:24:13] - a: I'm in. I think Andrew sounded interested? Maybe Daniel and Miguel? The entire message board population? -Paul

[2023-06-26 20:28:30] - daniel:  oops.  tonight works, thanks.  ~a

[2023-06-26 20:16:45] - a: good for sc2 tonight? if not preferences?  -Daniel

[2023-06-22 18:21:45] - Which maybe sounds negative towards them but I think anyone with that option would be hard pressed to turn it down. -Daniel

[2023-06-22 18:21:13] - paul: I think its once they decide they want to head towards IPO.  In the begining its your project that you just want to be successful.  Eventually one decides that selling out and getting a shit ton of money is a nice option too.  -Daniel

[2023-06-22 18:18:06] - Daniel: Yeah, that sounds most reasonable to me. I think we are seeing that a bit with stuff like CNN and Vice Media and whatnot too. Lots of news and communications platforms are widely used and/or important.... but it's not clear the best way to monetize them. -Paul

[2023-06-22 17:20:45] - and the struggle between people who are used to / want free services or platforms and the people who have to figure out how to pay for them.  -Daniel

[2023-06-22 17:20:10] - paul: If there is a connection between Twitter / Reddit I would think that its the ongoing struggle to figure out how to monetize / IPO these platforms and products which are highly profitable but not really inherently money generating.  -Daniel

[2023-06-13 14:57:01] - daniel:  https://lemmy.world/ a decentralized reddit ( https://join-lemmy.org/ if you want to pick a server).  ~a

[2023-06-12 20:58:30] - Daniel: Yeah, I can see reddit as being generally more useful. I think they serve different purposes, though. For whatever reason, I just never got into reddit. I also thought Twitter was stupid worse Facebook for awhile when it first came out. -Paul

[2023-06-12 19:40:26] - daniel:  i don't know if i totally follow the recorded calling, but it was an interesting insight.  as far as i can peace together, reddit is losing money on users who use the api.  so they are trying to make the short-term decision instead of the long-term one.  ~a

[2023-06-12 19:32:08] - daniel:  mmmm, "they don't want people to use all their comments / posts for language processing"  i'm not sure that's the argument i've seen made anywhere.  this thread doesn't mention language processing.  maybe i don't know what you mean by language processing?  ~a

[2023-06-12 18:35:57] - paul: reddit is so much better than twitter imo.  -Daniel

[2023-06-12 18:35:35] - a: I get that they don't want people to use all their comments / posts for language processing but it seems there ought to be a way to fix that w/o killing 3rd party stuff?  /shrug.  I've never been totally sure how reddit would ever be profitable though I very much enjoy it as a service.  -Daniel

[2023-06-12 18:34:41] - a: I don't use any of the 3rd party apps so I'm not as invested in their success though I don't have anything against them.  I do wonder if there is a lot of difference between people natively making requests against reddit vs the api calls that come from a 3rd party.  If the ads or whatever are still there in the 3rd party version then I don't know what reddit's deal is.  -Daniel

[2023-05-22 19:26:09] - Daniel:  I'm out this week, thanks.  I'm in Indiana until Thursday when I fly back to DC then back to Illinois (smh).  ~a

[2023-05-22 18:11:22] - a: sc2 night?  -Daniel

[2023-05-22 18:11:17] - Paul: i haven't heard of the Durham report yet.  -Daniel

[2023-05-15 18:28:28] - daniel:  sure, tonight works for me.  monday, tuesday, wednesday work.  i also emailed you thanks!  ~a

[2023-05-15 18:26:24] - a: thoughts on sc2 day?  tonight work?  -Daniel

[2023-05-02 21:17:16] - paul: I got a mechanical keyboard and don't think it affected my typing at all.  Maybe yours is just wack.  Also I don't notice your keys except maybe during the first 90 seconds cause there isn't a lot going on.  After that I don't notice at all.  Andrea was not a huge fan of my keyboard when I first got it because it was louder though.  -Daniel

[2023-04-28 22:12:39] - a: Yup thats the guy.  I like most of his stuff but occassionally something is to dry even given thats generally his schtick.  I did like the dishwasher video though.  It made me think about my gas stove.  I haven't really seen / tried an induction stove but I'd look at one more seriously in the future now.  -Daniel

[2023-04-28 20:13:16] - I watched a whole like twenty minute video on heat pumps.  Andrea made fun of me for it  -Daniel

[2023-04-26 20:33:10] - a: Maybe if it ends up in the SC somehow and the SC goes in favor of Disney that would  be bad for him.  -Daniel

[2023-04-26 20:32:30] - a: I was trying to think, even if he loses is it bad?  Or does it just show how much harder R's need to fight against 'woke' companies etc?  -Daniel

[2023-04-26 20:20:17] - daniel:  depends on how the lawsuit turns out?  if he wins, probably neutral or good for him, if he loses, probably neutral or bad for him.  ~a

[2023-04-26 20:14:09] - Being sued by Disney - good or bad for DeSantis presidential bid?  -Daniel

[2023-04-20 14:41:50] - daniel:  this made me think of you.  someone's flair on fuckcars is "I found fuckcars on r/place"  ~a

[2023-04-11 14:10:47] - daniel:  i'd prefer tomorrow.  thanks!  ~a

[2023-04-11 14:09:04] - a: care about today / tomorrow for SC2?  -Daniel

[2023-04-10 18:53:03] - Daniel: Sure, and if we're talking about Al Capone that's probably fine. But doing that to the most prominent politician of the opposing political party.... That just opens the floodgates to going after Biden and his entire family for the tickiest tackiest things possible after this. -Paul

[2023-04-10 18:23:35] - daniel:  i think the issue with Trump is it’s questionable that the Stormy Daniels thing is a crime to begin with?  Like I said earlier the phrase “novel legal theory” comes up frequently when this is talked about in articles.  - mig

[2023-04-10 16:40:00] - I think Trump might be like Al Capone in that everyone is pretty sure he's done bad things but this payment to Stormy Daniels is where there is a paper trail and can be proven.  /shrug  Like Capone for tax evasion instead of all the other felonies everyone is pretty sure he was responsible for.  -Daniel

[2023-04-05 17:54:57] - daniel:  yet he is not being charged or indicted for any state election law violations.  If you are relying on his charges to be linked to an underlying crime, I think having being charged of those crimes would be kind of required. - mig

[2023-04-05 17:20:38] - a: I could steal Paul's car!  Thus making a Dem more likely to get elected?  And reducing cars on the road!  Fool proof.  -Daniel

[2023-04-05 17:18:07] - daniel:  when stealing the car, did you conspire with others to prevent any person from being elected to public office?  ~a

[2023-04-05 17:05:57] - mig: Thats an excerpt from an NYT article.  I haven't read through all the charges or anything and certainly not a legal expert but that sounded like there was at least something to try and prove.  I think almost all white collar crime gets muddy cause its less obvious and trickier to prove than something more straight forward like car jacking etc.  -Daniel

[2023-04-05 14:27:46] - a: Never heard of them - Dallas has a lot of contractors though so I can imagine lots of smaller companies can spring up as sub contractors to the big players (lockheed, northrop, siemens, etc) -Daniel

[2023-04-05 03:09:13] - daniel:  is arthur grand technologies a company people have heard of in your area?  looks like a pretty small company.  ~a

[2023-03-31 18:44:56] - Daniel: I've changed my mind a little bit over the past 8 years or so on prosecuting former presidents. I used to be of the opinion that they're not special. If they did something wrong, then they should be treated like anybody else. But after the whole "lock her up" thing before and now going after Trump for something so seemingly minor... I can see how these things can be politically motivated and very dangerous for a democracy. -Paul

[2023-03-31 13:27:32] - daniel:  I'm more curious about the actual charges.  If this is all related to the Stormy Daniels thing and relies on Michael Cohen's testimony it might all performative. - mig

[2023-03-31 00:14:57] - Trump indictment? I'm curious if it does to trial how he gets a fair jury.  -Daniel

[2023-03-29 15:40:43] - Daniel: I largely enjoyed the D4 beta.  My thoughts on the MMO-ness are much the same.  It wasn't as intrusive as I feared, and the architectural change to the game world resulted in it being able to feel much more alive (and I mean in the sense of NPCs and towns, not other players).  I'm less worried about mounts, currently, though longer term that will be an issue... -- Xpovos

[2023-03-28 21:03:34] - I wonder a bit about a bigger overworld with mounts.  I recently played through Elden Ring and the game gives you a mount early in that game and I ended up just riding past everything that wasn't my immediate goal.  -Daniel

[2023-03-28 21:01:37] - xpovos: What did you think of the D4 beta?  I played a druid to 25 and a necro to 20.  I had fun with it but wasn't blown away or anything.  I didn't mind the MMO-ness as much as I thought I might.  I generally only saw people in town or at the various event things.  Anytime else is was very rare to see someone.  -Daniel

[2023-03-24 16:21:44] - in the  queue for D4.  We'll see how it goes.  I'm not sure how I feel about the MMO influence on it.  However its hard to know where the game goes since D3 at launch was so different than D3 ended up.  -Daniel

[2023-03-23 15:26:35] - Daniel: I'll almost certainly be in the beta this weekend. I was going to skip it, but they're dropping an account cosmetic which is tipping the scales for me.  The only reasons for me to not play are to enjoy the game as new at launch. -- Xpovos

[2023-03-23 15:22:33] - Daniel: I was never a huge Diablo guy, and I'm already playing a bit of Immortal with Dave (and have a backlog of other games to play), so I might skip. I hear it's good, though. -Paul

[2023-03-23 14:05:24] - Daniel: Likely is a financial acronym, but apparently some podcast was talking about "Best Nips" and it was about those tiny bottles of liquor which are apparently known as "nips". Well, one of the podcasters apparently jokingly nominated a female. He claims (and I totally buy it because it seems the obvious interpretation) that he was referring to their nipples. But the female in question is Korean and apparently "nips"... -Paul

[2023-03-23 01:21:40] - anyone else going to try Diablo 4 beta this weekend?  -Daniel

[2023-03-23 01:04:58] - Nipples?  Though also given the question now I think its probably some financial acronym.  -Daniel

[2023-03-20 18:37:55] - a: care about sc2 day?  -Daniel

[2023-03-14 12:05:41] - daniel:  the gov said they would make them whole using the DIF.  Which wasn't how it's supposed to work. - mig

[2023-03-13 22:09:27] - mig: I think the 250k limit is guaranteed by the gov.  If they can work to get JP Morgan or whoever to take over the other stuff from the bank in such a way that people get to keep more than 250k I don't think that makes the 250 fictional.  Its just a base line.  -Daniel

[2023-02-28 18:10:19] - mig:  i wondered if you or paul or daniel or xpovos or whoever had any thoughts on stonetoss.  it was interesting to me that a pro-14-words nazi, who's literal art is largely about how he doesn't like foreigners, or the lgbt, or women, or miscegenation, etc, was anti-15-minute-city.  i didn't imply anything about how a bad person liking your stuff means anything specific though.  ~a

[2023-02-27 21:36:55] - daniel:  sure!  ~a

[2023-02-27 19:01:59] - a: good for sc2 tonight?  -Daniel

[2023-02-22 16:27:43] - Daniel: But like you, I know very little about the whole controversy except what I hear second hand, which I don't trust much. -Paul

[2023-02-22 16:26:58] - Daniel: That's totally fair. I'm in a very similar position with the exception that I think I give her a little more of the benefit of the doubt because of some of the (very limited) things I know about what she has said and how they have been interpreted. Maybe she's an actual hateful bigot, but I have yet to see any evidence of that and most of the stuff I've seen her say has seemed... like an acceptable opinion. -Paul

[2023-02-21 21:18:37] - daniel:  "broad philosphy of 'be excellent to each other'"  i'm not sure i like that philosophy, because it's very nonspecific.  it feels a lot like "do no evil".  not everybody will agree on what is excellent or evil?  at least the golden rule is more specific, even though i do respect that not everybody wants to be treated the same way.  ~a

[2023-02-21 19:57:38] - paul: So in general under the  broad philosphy of 'be excellent to each other' I don't think that would qualify and therefore "be problematic" but that also depends on how you define "be problematic".  Like its not good.  Is it a problem?  Depends on if you see JK as yelling into the wind or swaying hearts and minds I guess?  -Daniel

[2023-02-21 19:55:52] - paul: With the caveat that I personally pay very little attention to JK my understanding is that she's pretty openly anti trans?  Which doesn't seem like a nice thing.  But I don't think I have a great nuanced understanding of her beliefs really either.  -Daniel

[2023-02-21 19:26:09] - Daniel: Do you think Rowling's views are problematic and WOULD be an issue if you weren't into separating art from artist? -Paul

[2023-02-21 15:22:29] - mig: I haven't played it but probably will at some point.  I get the theory of why people who choose not to don't play it but I think everyone draws the line of separating artist from art differently and in this case I don't think I think there is enough separation b/w the game and JK that it doesn't bother me.  I do have a cousin though who is out on the game and /shrug that doesn't bother me either.  -Daniel

[2023-02-20 17:19:20] - a: SC2 tonight work for you?  -Daniel

[2023-02-17 16:12:49] - Paul: I agree some but probably with some slight differences in opinions.  I think its a prisoners dilemma situation where neither side has any real reason to trust the other.  I think R's don't even really pretend to want to act cooperatively though?  I still think that in general the 'best' way to go about things would be Dem concepts implemented by R's (who weren't undercutting / starving the beast).  -Daniel

[2023-02-17 16:02:13] - Daniel: "However given the nature of the system and the state of voters I'm not sure there is a lot to do about it in the short term (sadly)" I agree, but where I suspect we disagree is that I see both sides as part of the problem. Both are breaking with previously established traditions to try to consolidate power and both are saying they are justified because the other side started it and neither will stop escalating. -Paul

[2023-02-17 15:55:33] - Paul: "can we also agree that maybe constantly one-upping the breaking of norms when you are in power and then feigning outrage when the other side does it too (or even escalates) is a bad " - 100% yes.  However given the nature of the system and the state of voters I'm not sure there is a lot to do about it in the short term (sadly).  -Daniel

[2023-02-15 15:06:51] - Daniel: Agreed on the very nature of politics being a large part of the problem, but can we also agree that maybe constantly one-upping the breaking of norms when you are in power and then feigning outrage when the other side does it too (or even escalates) is a bad idea that will likely lead to non-stop escalation of badness? -Paul

[2023-02-13 19:07:01] - paul: "with no awareness of it biting them in the ass" - I don't think they don't have the awareness just that the calculus prioritizes re-election / getting through primaries / getting donations over sensible political action.  So I think long term moving away from first past the post and getting more voters involved in primaries ought to be able to help with those (I think).  And trying to have better less gerrymandered maps.  -Daniel

[2023-02-12 20:44:43] - Daniel: So instead of compromise and checks and balances, we get an increasingly powerful and less respectful majority relentlessly punishing the other side for what happened in previous years. -paul

[2023-02-12 20:43:50] - Daniel: With both sides accusing the other of unprecedented actions. As somebody removed from both parties, it's frustrating to see whoever is in power keep punishing the minority party with no awareness of it biting them in the ass once they lose power. -Paul

[2023-02-12 20:42:53] - Daniel: don't add SCOTUS justices to pack your side of the court, don't keep flip flopping on the filibuster depending on who is in power, etc). Otherwise it's just an endless stream of changes in the political system.. -Paul

[2023-02-12 20:41:50] - Daniel: "I think at that level everything always involves politics" It seems like it, and I think that's really bad. It seems helpful to have a common set of standards (let the parties pick their committee members, don't refuse to consider a SCOTUS nominee... -Paul

[2023-02-10 16:43:28] - Paul: "that doesn't always involve politics" - this would be nice but I think at that level everything always involves politics.  Its all about getting re-elected and if kicking Schiff off a committee gives you a 10% less chance of being primaried or whatever then they take it cause primary voters have gotten increasingly rabid.  -Daniel

[2023-02-10 15:38:22] - Daniel: But either way, the fact that it's politics and two different political parties means you (the generic you, in this case) are almost always going to agree with the reasons given by your side and not agree with the reasons given by the other side. At some point you (again, universal you) need to agree on some common agreed upon frameworks on how to govern that doesn't always involve politics. -Paul

[2023-02-10 15:36:24] - Daniel: "equating supporting Jan 6th to impeaching Trump seems dumb" I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this? Did MTG support Jan 6th or something? Didn't more than those two vote to impeach Trump? The reason I saw for kicking MTG off was that she threatened a fellow politician and the reasons for kicking Schiff and Swalwell off seemed linked to leaking info and possibly being compromised by a spy. -Paul

[2023-02-08 15:42:17] - Paul: Fine in what regard?  I mean they are allowed to do it but equating supporting Jan 6th to impeaching Trump seems dumb to me but also pretty representative of where the R party is at now adays.  So I'm not sure I'd call it fine but I would call it normal and expected for the R party.  -Daniel

[2023-02-06 20:15:12] - a: You care about SC2 day?  -Daniel

[2023-02-02 14:30:50] - https://paulvsthemarket.com/fantasy-investing-2023/ I think I see Daniel's entry, but in case anybody else wanted to play... -Paul

[2023-01-30 17:12:00] - a / paul: Tonight work for SC2 for yall?  -Daniel

[2023-01-24 18:56:09] - paul: I haven't read the details of that promo in particular but when I tried online poker waay back it had stuff like that a lot but the catch was always that you couldn't cash out the free money until you had made x amount of bets or added y amount of your own money or something.  I assume somewhere there is a catch like that here.  -Daniel

[2023-01-23 22:50:04] - daniel:  yeah, i hear you.  most people consider biking to be a kid-only activity:  you are definitely in the majority.  one day i decided that cars eat away at my soul.  but i hear that this doesn't happen to everybody.  i think kids like it because its basically the only way they can have any sense of autonomy.  ~a

[2023-01-23 19:01:32] - a: Not sure I totally understand it but I think biking has more appeal to me as an activity to do with my kids than by myself?  Maybe if I lived in VA still I'd bike with you (though I'd be baby rider compared to you).  Maybe just better as a social thing for me?  -Daniel

[2023-01-23 18:55:33] - a: Oo I mapped it and was off.  2 miles each way!  -Daniel

[2023-01-23 18:51:48] - a: I took Alex bike riding last week and we rode about 1.25 miles each way on a greenway to playground that she played at for awhile.  Just thought that would be a fun anecdote for you  -Daniel

[2023-01-23 18:50:35] - a: pref for sc2 night? -Daniel

[2023-01-20 15:02:17] - daniel:  the more i think about it the more i disagree.  victim blaming is lame, and i'm not sure when it stops being "what's wrong with you" and starts become dumb victim blaming.  "how much effort the baddie had to put in to do something" is a terrible metric if you were talking about rape or something.  ~a

[2023-01-18 15:46:40] - -Daniel

[2023-01-18 00:13:37] - Daniel: Totally agree that it's easier said than done, but it did make me realize that the answer isn't always "different unit comp". As usual, I was probably too quick to engage and probably should've tried backing up and re-positioning my units some. -Paul

[2023-01-17 20:13:32] - paul: Its so simple - just get a surround and presto!  Easy peasy.  -Daniel

[2023-01-17 14:38:59] - Daniel: https://www.reddit.com/r/allthingszerg/comments/d109jn/what_is_the_compositional_counter_to/ Re: hellion / cyclone. The first response sounds like the best option (two groups, cut off retreat and surround), but the infestor / fungal growth path also sounds like a solid option. -Paul

[2023-01-12 21:26:47] - Paul: depends? I saw the story title somewhere that he had left some behind somewhere after traveling and it was reported?  I would probably label that a small deal.  Is he storing lots of classified docs in boxes in an unsecured garage?  Bigger deal.  -Daniel

[2023-01-10 16:50:34] - Paul: I guess I get the company wouldn't want that but as a consumer I do want to know what companies are mod unfriendly and would give preference to mod friendly brands / companies.  -Daniel

[2023-01-10 15:58:29] - Daniel: In theory it would be on the consumer, sure, until they start complaining to Apple about "why did your patch break my phone?" and giving negative reviews. I mean, I agree with you and am mostly trying to steel-man the John Deere argument, but I can see why companies would find it annoying even beyond just "we want more money" reasons. -Paul

[2023-01-10 15:18:17] - My guess is that allowing people to do their own thing actually ends up leading to more innovation?  Not 100% but I bet more experimentation gets done that way and then people share what works and eventually companies could pull that in too.  I know in video games that happens a lot where a company will end up incorporating really popular mods (weird example but I think might apply a little).  -Daniel

[2023-01-10 15:16:38] - If you are going to muck around with your 100k tractor you best be careful / know what you are doing whether its tweaking some software to change the rotation rate of a screw vs pulling out a spark plug to put a new one in.  -Daniel

[2023-01-10 15:15:44] - Isn't that just on the consumer then for messing with their device?  /shrug  -Daniel

[2023-01-09 22:21:23] - daniel:  it didn't prevent them from functioning, no.  but were they harmed by this self repair?  could they have provided a better product to the consumers without it?  i'm not sure i could say for sure either way.  what's more, electric cars and john deer tractors are unarguably much more complicated.  and their maintenance decisions don't necessarily need to follow the same model.  ~a

[2023-01-09 22:15:41] - a: but did it prevent all the car companies for functioning for the last 100 years? -Daniel

[2023-01-09 21:55:51] - daniel:  i did consider that as my first example (car hoods).  if i'm entirely playing devil's advocate, i'd say yes:  opening up the hood of a car (and actually going into the engine parts) will become more and more uncommon as time goes on.  actually we're already there basically with electric cars.  ~a

[2023-01-09 21:53:35] - a: Does opening a car's hood open up their trade secrets and ip?  -Daniel

[2023-01-09 21:41:47] - daniel:  uhh ok, maybe i want to argue the side! audrey brought up some stuff i didn't consider.  does (giving the legal right to be) repairing a john deer tractor open up their trade secrets and intellectual property?  obviously someone who ignores the law can open up a tractor and learn their trade secrets and intellectual property, but someone following the law would potentially not be able to if we (as we often do) make that illegal.  ~a

[2023-01-09 21:22:45] - a: I mean its entirely possible I'm living in my self selected bubble but I don't think I've ever heard anyone argue on John Deere's side on this issue.  -Daniel

[2023-01-09 21:04:04] - a: Did you book at the hotel?  If you are going to the superbowl is there housing for not crazy pricing?  -Daniel

[2023-01-06 19:27:04] - paul: It would be nice for some kind of compromise candidate but I think with gerry mandering its in a place where if you do something like it guarantees a primary challenge and makes it a lot harder to win re election.  Which is ultimately what they care about (re-election).  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 21:31:43] - paul/daniel:  i think the biggest problem for our cause is the tired excuse any skeptic has heard before:  "it's not working because you don't believe" (or something similar involving negative energies)  ~a

[2023-01-03 21:26:16] - paul: Yeah I think the asking for a demo in person will be something I mention along the way in the process.  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 21:25:24] - a:  cause i'm bad at video editing  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 21:24:37] - Daniel: I know I'm not a true believer, but it doesn't seem like a big ask for an example of real magic in person and not on YouTube. Presumably Alex has seen movies and understands they're not real and so you can fake stuff on TV? -Paul

[2023-01-03 21:23:50] - daniel:  of course you can.  but can you record your own videos of earth elementals, please?  if not, why not?  ~a

[2023-01-03 21:23:04] - Daniel: "Who would yall rather bet on to be the next speaker of the house?  McCarthy or the field?" Yeah, a little surprised we haven't been talking about this more, although honestly the news kinda snuck up on me. This seems like a decently big deal. My money is still on McCarthy because I figure the opposition will fold, but I can't think of anything I want more right now than Justin Amash. -Paul

[2023-01-03 21:21:38] - Daniel: "what are you going to do with the championship games in the FF leagues?  Crazy situation." No idea. Hopefully yahoo will figure it out. We still seem to be in the "it's offensive to talk about football when a man's life hangs in the balance" stage so I think the NFL is terrified of any announcement of when the next game will be played. -Paul

[2023-01-03 21:20:00] - Daniel: I know I'm a bit of a troll sometimes, but... maybe the best action is let her teach Alex "magic"? And then maybe suggest something like "hey, why don't you turn this water to wine?" or "can you float that book over to me?" Seems like nothing would disabuse somebody of the realness of magic quicker than seeing somebody try, and fail, in action. -Paul

[2023-01-03 21:06:26] - a: Sure but for things like are ghosts real or is an earth elemental real or whatever you can find video's of those things on the internet.  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 21:02:39] - daniel:  "I feel like it gets tricky as well in terms of evidence now though as well in the land of photoshop, video editing, and deep fakes"  well sorta.  in paul's example he was like "you do this thing", not "please find me a thing on the internet".  ~a

[2023-01-03 20:55:22] - Who would yall rather bet on to be the next speaker of the house?  McCarthy or the field?  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 20:53:44] - a: I feel like it gets tricky as well in terms of evidence now though as well in the land of photoshop, video editing, and deep fakes.  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 20:53:03] - a: Maybe? Hopefully?  Clearly I need Paul to write another children's book here.  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 20:52:30] - paul: what are you going to do with the championship games in the FF leagues?  Crazy situation. -Daniel

[2023-01-03 20:48:54] - a: Lets say the please don't talk about this to my child approach didn't go well so now I'm moving on to plan B.  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 20:48:24] - paul/xpovos: yeah largely thats the goal and where I was trying to slowly trying to go with my kids over time.  However apparently my MIL is telling alex that everyone can learn magic they just need to apply themselves and that she (MIL) has done magical things and can help Alex learn.  Which Alex apparently was interested in (what kid doesn't want to have a magic grandmother teach them magic).  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 20:25:03] - Daniel: Yes. The stock market challenge was BRUTAL last year. Let us never speak of it again. -Paul

[2023-01-03 20:24:35] - Daniel: Theoretically, if I wanted to try to show appropriate skepticism of something, I guess I would try to ask for repeatable evidence of the existence of the thing. Like, "you see a ghost every night, huh? take a picture for me" -Paul

[2023-01-03 20:23:23] - Daniel: Honestly, I think my kids are still at the age where they believe pretty much any adult about anything, so any kind of skepticism might be hard. -Paul

[2023-01-03 20:21:45] - Daniel: Not sure I have any good answers for you. Interestingly enough, paranormal things hasn't been a big issue for us. Even nightmares and stuff tend to be rooted in real animals and not things like ghosts. We've had cases where friends from school have almost certainly been telling them wrong things, but it's more like scientifically wrong than stuff like "ghosts are real". -Paul

[2023-01-03 19:57:30] - a/daniel: Tough question.  A lot is going to depend on the age of the child, his ability to rationalize independently, and the level of normal engagement with the grandparent.  My MIL has some strange beliefs that she likes to chat about, but doesn't try to force on the kids.  She's highly engaged in the kids lives.  So our conversations have tended towards {...} -- Xpovos

[2023-01-03 19:25:46] - a: /shrug  - Andrea's mom.  Its been a whole thing but the resolution seems to be that I need to be more active in teaching Alex to know how to ask skepitcal questions and look for evidence before believeing things even from people who otherwise you would / should trust.  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 19:01:08] - daniel:  "that were being presented to the child as real"  by whom?  you don't have to give me like a name or even any specifics, but like, someone they're related to?  or someone at school/daycare?  or like something on tv or in movies?  ~a

[2023-01-03 17:42:04] - 2022 Stock Challenge:  Oof at the numbers there.  All of them are pretty rough for a year's return.  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 17:40:59] - I'm looking into that and coming up with ideas but figured I'd see if you had any good / better ideas than mine so far.  -Daniel

[2023-01-03 17:40:28] - paul: random question but if you wanted to teach your kids (continue?) to be skeptical of paranormal things (ghosts / spirits / faith healing etc) that were being presented to the child as real any thoughts on how you'd go about that?  -Daniel

[2022-12-21 15:38:20] - paul: Yeah I think I've heard npr use 7% as the number for inflation as well.  -Daniel

[2022-12-19 21:50:31] - a: I saw that and while on one hand isn't a good look, its hard to know everyone who wants a selfie.  If putin's right hand man or top general wanted to take a selfie with me I wouldn't know what they looked like to say no thank you.  -Daniel

[2022-12-15 15:48:30] - paul/daniel:  wash-sale rule question.  so i understand the rule, i think:  you sell at a loss, and you buy within 30 days (before or after).  welllllll, what about the *simplest* loss example:  i buy 1 share on january 1st, and sell at a loss on january 15th.  is that a wash-sale?  i mean, i DID buy less than 30 days before.  i've looked at some definitions and they didn't seem to preclude the "replacement stock" being the only stock.  ~a

[2022-12-02 20:13:53] - daniel:  you'll also have my respect and admiration.  ~a

[2022-12-02 19:21:41] - I don't know that its tarnished but certainly not ideal, lol  -Daniel

[2022-12-02 19:01:52] - Daniel: Congrats! Does it tarnish the win at all that it comes during the worst investing year in like a decade plus? -Paul

[2022-12-02 18:40:47] - Oh yeah I fine not being part of the bet - mostly just drawing attention to my potential first "win".  -Daniel

[2022-12-02 18:09:14] - daniel:  "daniel and andrew are exempt from terms and can't win"  ~a

[2022-12-02 18:07:23] - daniel:  we've always specified that the wager is "between paul and adrian", or even "only paul and adrian can win money", or similar, to avoid this eventuality.  if you want to play, you have to specify that in january, not december  ~a

[2022-12-02 17:47:08] - Daniel: My respect and admiration? I think Adrian and I usually put like $20 on the outcome but not sure you have participated in the past. -Paul

[2022-12-02 17:25:36] - Do I get any prizes if I hold on and "win" the stock challenge?  I think it will be the first time for me (assuming I hold on).  -Daniel

[2022-12-02 16:49:07] - apparently Kayne got kicked off Twitter so even Elon has limits somewhere too.  -Daniel

[2022-12-02 16:48:26] - a: Yeah I'm with paul - 'use' is a tricky word there.  I can imagine 17% somehow own some.  I would find it harder to believe that 17% of people paid for non crypto  goods and services with crypto in the last few years.  -Daniel

[2022-12-02 14:48:40] - daniel/paul:  apparently 17% of americans use bitcoin?  i didn't realize it was that high, but i guess it makes sense.  ~a

[2022-11-30 19:48:30] - paul/daniel:  so another thing to notice about with bonds:  don't overthink it.  bonds historically have gotten ~1% over inflation (probably closer to ~1.5% over inflation).  so, when interest rates go up and when interest rates go down, you're still beating inflation in the long-term.  ~a

[2022-11-30 19:38:05] - Daniel: I tend to dismiss that argument as a way to take away a person's right to negotiate, but it is kind of an interesting thought experiment. What if all doctors went on strike? It's interesting we worry about monopolies when it comes to companies but not when it comes to labor. -Paul

[2022-11-30 19:31:35] - paul: Yeah people are worried a rail strike would mess up the economy at large.  -Daniel

[2022-11-30 19:26:02] - Daniel: Is there a reason the Federal government has to be involved and it can't just be the workers negotiating with the employers? I guess because a strike could be a national security issue or something? -Paul

[2022-11-30 19:25:16] - Daniel: I know next to nothing about the rail strike news except that it is happening. With the caveat that I know nothing about it, my biggest worry is that Biden (being a democrat who I assume tends to side with unions) is going to force a resolution that gives the workers way too much. -Paul

[2022-11-30 19:11:18] - paul:  i'm with daniel, 1. what daniel said.  2.  i'm pretty sure you're confusing the primary bond market with the secondary market.  the secondary market works more like a stock market, with bids and asks, and really it prices itself like stocks do (or doesn't just like when stocks don't?).  ~a

[2022-11-30 19:10:25] - a: There isn't one but there is a lot of worry about a potential one as soon as like next week or the week after.  -Daniel

[2022-11-30 19:10:02] - Also I'm not sure I get how congress can stop a strike?  How are people compelled to work?  I'm confused on the details there.  -Daniel

[2022-11-30 19:09:18] - daniel:  there's a rail strike?  one of the bad things about using public transportation to get to work is i am not (forced into) listening to NPR as much anymore.  ~a

[2022-11-30 19:08:44] - If I were Biden I'd be all about supporting the striking workers and calling out the companies for not figuring out a way to have workers with paid sick time.  -Daniel

[2022-11-30 19:08:01] - Have any of you been paying attention to the rail strike stuff?  NPR has done a few stories on it and I'm pretty peeved that I think congress (dems) might  push through a resolution to head off a strike that doesn't get the workers what they want.  I'm not  down for that.  I get not wanting a strike but if they want 4 sick days (up from 0) they should be able to fight for that.  -Daniel

[2022-11-30 19:06:53] - paul: Is that like asking what the current overall market rate is before deciding how much should be in stocks?  -Daniel

[2022-11-22 18:25:26] - I think twitter banning / removing hate speech is an example of not being tolerated.  Kayne being dropped by Adidas.  -Daniel

[2022-11-22 18:06:47] - daniel/paul:  can you give an example of it being tolerated vs not tolerated?  maybe a concrete example of twitter?  what should twitter do when there is hate-speech?  ~a

[2022-11-22 17:05:56] - I guess I would strengthen that to say hate speech shouldn't be illegal.  However I still don't know that means it needs to be tolerated.  -Daniel

[2022-11-22 16:56:24] - I'm not sure  that hate speech should be illegal but I'm also not sure that hate speech should be tolerated by society.  -Daniel

[2022-11-22 06:49:20] - Daniel: I think if an employee wants to talk about his same sex spouse or a twitter user wants to say that Elliott Page was Ellen Page or somebody wants to do a book review of Mein Kampf in a library then we're all better off generally tolerating that than banning it all even if it's legally allowed. -Paul

[2022-11-22 06:45:10] - Daniel: Like Adrian said, a culture of free speech is the tolerance for speech that goes outside what is legally required. It's society's tolerance for speech. So even if platform X is legally allowed to ban all discussion of Jesus or homosexuality or abortion or whatever, a culture of free speech would mean most platforms generally tend to be less censorious than more. -Paul

[2022-11-22 01:43:16] - mig: Gotcha and I'm pro trying to get companies to have "the right" moderation policies as well but that is hard to define and I don't think its a free speech issue.  -Daniel

[2022-11-21 23:30:16] - daniel:  I'm not sure anyone is arguing that twitter should be obligated legally to pursue a 1st amendment brand of free speech.  My argument has always been that it would be a more ideal platform if it does, and it should be up for criticism for what I would consider bad moderation policies. - mig

[2022-11-21 17:04:48] - I think the idea of free speech means speech without ramifications is wrong.  Twitter doesn't have to host stuff they don't want to.  Is there some part of "free speech" that should obligate twitter (or other social media site) to just host arbitrary content of whatever type?  -Daniel

[2022-11-21 16:57:20] - daniel:  i think i disagree.  "free speech" is a superset of the free speech parts of the 1st amendment.  in other words, free speech has a lot of parts to it, i think, and you're only highlighting the 1st amendment or maybe just highlighting the governmental parts of free speech?  ~a

[2022-11-21 16:54:28] - I don't think just because some social media service becomes popular means it suddenly can't moderate / regulate in order to satisfy a free speech requirement.  -Daniel

[2022-11-21 16:53:50] - Paul: I'm not sure what a cultural concept of free speech means.  I think twitter is not relevant to the concept of free speech in my head.  What gets regulated by any particular service or platform doesn't seem to impact someone's free speech?  I think this goes back to the Twitter != "public square" idea where maybe I remember we viewed it differently.  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 17:45:27] - daniel:  alternatively anybody can edit anybody else's posts.  it's not like you can't already impersonate anybody you want.  ~a

[2022-11-18 17:22:14] - I think we can live without an edit button, it was just a series of terrible posts by me  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 16:09:33] - I need to edit so I can hide my shame! -Daniel

[2022-11-18 16:09:17] - omg my grammer.  did find?  just found?  oof for me.  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 16:09:00] - The TSA did found something!  https://www.tomshardware.com/news/airport-tsa-knife-hidden-gaming-laptop  Just noting since I think many of us think the TSA doesn't actually do much.  Random win for them.  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 16:00:52] - last time i brought this up you and daniel were both like "i'm unaffected by this".  ~a

[2022-11-18 15:56:52] - daniel:  "sell and immediately rebuy" yes, but you can already do that.  using the method you suggest in your second post.  you can usually sell and immediately rebuy something that is basically the same thing.  ~a

[2022-11-18 15:54:37] - a: Yeah so maybe using slightly different things that essentially achieve the same goal would work?  Something like ETF's vs funds or some meta fund vs the actual peices?  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 15:53:55] - a: If you get rid of wash sales wouldn't the optimal strategy always be to sell and immediately rebuy when a stock goes down to lock in losses to offset any gains?  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 15:53:35] - daniel:  i don't know.  i'm not a tax accountant, but i've never worried about wash sales in those cases.  slightly more relevant:  vanguard has never labeled those as wash sales.  ~a

[2022-11-18 15:52:00] - How do wash sales handle meta funds type things?  Like if you have Target Date Retirement Fund 2070 (or whatever) in your soon bucket and just straight VT etf in your later bucket do those trigger? -Daniel

[2022-11-18 15:50:32] - Yeah I guess I don't have now or soon buckets invested in the stock market.    Only later.  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 15:49:36] - I have some money in savings accounts outside the market that we can use if we have to do things like buy new AC for the house or fix car in emergency etc type stuff.  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 15:49:26] - daniel:  if i want to ADD to the later bucket and SUBTRACT from the soon bucket, i basically can't unless:  1.  i carefully avoid using the same types of stocks (like VT).  or 2.  just not care that there are wash sales.  ~a

[2022-11-18 15:49:05] - a: If I'm using my investments to buy things it would either be pre retirment and not often or during retirement where I'm not really buying new stocks.  I get how it could be annoying - I just don't think there will be a big overlap when I'm both buying and selling stocks.  This might be partly because I don't use the market as a savings account which I think I remember that you do?  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 15:48:11] - daniel:  my retirement planner suggested i create three buckets of money:  "NOW" "SOON" and "LATER".  the now bucket is mostly cash, the soon bucket is safe things that have gains (20% stocks, 80% bonds, for me), and the later bucket is mostly volatile things (80% stocks, 20% bonds, for me).  the later bucket is by far the biggest in size.  ~a

[2022-11-18 15:40:33] - daniel:  "my investments just sit there and I add to them occassionally / regularly"  this is me generally too, but hypothetically you might eventually . . . need money?  to buy things?  that's not me today, but i do worry that once i get to that point it'll be too late to fix it because of large gains that would get taxed.  ~a

[2022-11-18 15:29:44] - I can't remember the last time I sold anything like VTI or VT or stuff like that.  I just buy.  I can see how if you are active with things it would be annoying but generally my investments just sit there and I add to them occassionally / regularly.  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 15:17:48] - I already don't use twitter for anything so I don't think I will be affected or care how Twitter goes.  Though I do see twitter links on reddit  - mainly in sports and political subs - so maybe other people will have to change which will then change what I see as a secondary effect.  -Daniel

[2022-11-18 15:16:03] - a: didn't know that about wash sales but also have never had an issue with it.  Never thought to mess with it that way.  But I can see the theory of why the rule exists.  -Daniel

[2022-11-17 21:49:08] - paul/daniel:  "According to Revenue Ruling 2008-5, IRA transactions can also trigger the wash-sale rule. When shares are sold in a non-retirement account and substantially identical shares are purchased in an IRA within 30 days, the investor cannot claim tax losses for the sale"  ugh.  did you know this?  what a pain in the ass.  i assume this doesn't apply to 401k, but jfc.  ~a

[2022-11-11 16:52:14] - a: Apparently some exchange(FTX) went under (is going under?) and is causing waves.  -Daniel

[2022-11-11 16:38:15] - daniel:  random fluctuations in my opinion.  bitcoin is notoriously volatile.  20k -> 16k doesn't pique my interest.  maybe if it hits 10k i'll start buying again?  ~a

[2022-11-11 16:35:56] - a: I check bitcoin prices occasionally just to see where its at.  What made it drop down recently to 16k?  It had been steady at 20k for quite awhile? Anything specific or just random flucuations?  -Daniel

[2022-11-03 21:53:25] - "petroleum geologist" seems like someone daniel probably works with.  ~a

[2022-10-27 14:01:09] - though maybe i'm overestimating people...  -Daniel

[2022-10-27 14:01:01] - Zuck trying to do Meta seems crazy to me in some ways because I feel like in terms of data people aren't in the same place as they were in the early 2000's where they would just share / put whatever on Facebook. People don't trust him so why would they give him more info in a whole new system?  -Daniel

[2022-10-27 13:59:33] - Xpovos: Yeah we looked at some sort of EV last time we were buying a new car (pre pandemic) but ended up getting ICE due to cost / features / maintenance concerns.  Hopefully the next time around some of those issues go away or are better.  -Daniel

[2022-10-24 16:52:56] - a: vote for sc2 night?  -Daniel

[2022-10-11 01:07:50] - a: any vote on sc2 this week?  -Daniel

[2022-10-06 19:41:18] - xpovos:  nah, we all said he'd be terrible.  everyone except daniel maybe.  i assume you're referring to the pardons (which is surprising and amazing, i agree).  ~a

[2022-09-30 13:51:54] - Daniel: Have a guess? Also, I appreciate that the way Adrian decided to phrase his guess for my deepest, darkest desire as "eliminate a service" instead of maybe saving taxpayers some money. -Paul

[2022-09-29 20:21:09] - paul: what would be your "main issue"?  -Daniel

[2022-09-29 17:56:33] - paul: Safe choice just to beat Trump.  /shrug.  I don't think he is great / amazing or any of that but I can see the appeal of "safe" when Trump is running. -Daniel

[2022-09-26 18:49:15] - a: votes on SC2? -Daniel

[2022-09-26 14:58:48] - Daniel: From what I can tell, it's a joke that some people are taking at least half seriously. But I agree, seems more a joke than anything else. -Paul

[2022-09-26 14:21:30] - paul: I heard the beads theory but never as more than a joke.  -Daniel

[2022-09-21 13:46:59] - a: I do listen to NPR and saw some stuff about the chess things on reddit as well.  I don't really have a strong opinion based on what I know.  People seemed to have the vague assumption that the guy cheated somehow but that no one currently knows how so can't be totally sure.  -Daniel

[2022-09-21 03:52:08] - I heard about that on NPR just now.  I don't!  It seems like magnus wouldn't have taken such a drastic action on a hunch, but who knows.  I think Ill wait to learn more before judging.  xpovos and Paul also play.  Daniel do you play chess?  or listen to npr?  ~a

[2022-09-20 10:40:09] - daniel:  immigrants are generally told to ask for asylum as refugees since its easier to get in that way than jus saying “i want a job.” - mig

[2022-09-20 00:56:26] - a: Yeah I'd want more info before saying they were lied to.  I think that pamphlet is tricky because it probably depends on you being a refugee which I think is a legal designation you have to apply for.  So might be one of those not a lie but still misleading things.  -Daniel

[2022-09-19 20:13:49] - more regulations! more bikes!  Only allowing certain investments in 401k's!  -Daniel

[2022-09-16 17:20:36] - a: "Hey want to go to New England where they have declared themselves a sanctuary city and might help you more?"  "Sure!".  I can see that being the conversation that was had.  I don't think it has to be complicated and I imagine they could find volunteers to go north?  -Daniel

[2022-09-16 16:57:51] - mig/paul/xpovos/daniel:  sorry i've been away all day!  i'll try to get to some of the things.  "I have not seen evidence that they were lied to, no"  neither have i  "A lot of how I feel about this begins with that"  me too.  "Was it at gunpoint?" no "Were they lied to?"  i don't know.  i'd have a hard time understanding the scenario where they weren't lied to though.  what's YOUR theory of how it played out if they weren't lied to?  ~a

[2022-09-16 15:59:55] - Paul: I tend to think so as well but I guess we'll see in the next week. I have to imagine reporters are checking on that. -Daniel

[2022-09-16 15:57:46] - Daniel: It's a little telling to me that we haven't heard much from the migrants themselves. At least I haven't seen anything in the coverage I've read. I feel like if they were coerced in some way we would be seeing reporting of that. -Paul

[2022-09-16 15:57:33] - I get also that maybe transporting undocumented immigrants is an illegal thing but I do think its different for people sneaking illegal migrants around vs governors distributing migrants to alleviate overwhelmed systems.  Again this would be better coordinated and if people are being forced I think it changes the story.  -Daniel

[2022-09-16 15:55:35] - I'm generally pro distributing migrants to various places especially if everyone is on board and its being coordinated to some degree.  I think them just showing in MV or wherever isn't a disaster or anything but certainly would be better if they had a heads up they were coming.  I have trouble believing they were coerced / forced to go until something comes out to prove that.  -Daniel

[2022-09-13 18:06:10] - paul: sames - retirement I think.  They are in theory supposed to be part of a cash cushion for the years between retirement and 59.5 when ira /401k options open up.  -Daniel

[2022-09-12 18:02:48] - paul: yes! sent out an email - sorry it was late.  -Daniel

[2022-09-12 17:37:10] - Daniel: Is there sc2 this week? I think I can play! -Paul

[2022-09-08 20:41:39] - paul:  what daniel said.  100% VTTSX if they're planning on retiring between 2058 and 2062.  100% VLXVX if they're planning on retiring between 2063 and 2067.  ~a

[2022-09-08 20:03:40] - Paul: Target Retirment 20XX fund where the XX  fits their age?  -Daniel

[2022-09-08 16:03:24] - I don't know the specifics of oathkeepers either but I think in general most organizations try to sell you on the easily approachable ideals then move onto the more specifics / hardcore of their ideals later on.  I think that is shared across orgs from like Scientology to Al-Queda to Dems/Repubs.  -Daniel

[2022-09-07 17:19:41] - Daniel: Ranked choice voting or having a viable third (or fourth or more) party would greatly help, but I have been pounding that drum for a long time. -Paul

[2022-09-07 15:33:44] - daniel:  mostly yes.  I'm harder on dems usually on this issue, because I dunno, I kind of expected better from them. - mig

[2022-09-07 15:30:28] - mig: Do you think the same of R's?  Just checking if think that is unique to D's or just currently relevant given the composition.  -Daniel

[2022-09-07 15:27:54] - daniel:  https://www.collins.senate.gov/newsroom/senators-collins-and-murkowski-introduce-bill-to-codify-supreme-court-decisions-on-reproductive-rights_roe-v-wade-and-pl some R's are willing to cross, but there's too many democrats who want to act like they are a supermajority when they're not. - mig

[2022-09-07 14:37:27] - mig: I don't think there is a lot of choice in governing style if R's pretty much never cross the aisle on big things.  (which again I think can be blamed in large part to the threat of being primaried) -Daniel

[2022-09-07 14:36:00] - paul: Polarization of primaries makes it hard to sell crossing the aisle as a good thing.  Ranked choice voting might help with this (see recent Alaska election) but will have to get adopted more around the country.  -Daniel

[2022-09-02 13:49:58] - I didn't - saw a few headlines.  -Daniel

[2022-09-01 15:13:13] - paul: Yeah depends on who they are but I would press for the answers to "Is it for retirement? yes/no  Do you know approximately when you want to spend it? Answer in years is fine.  I think without those its hard to give an appropriate answer  Which doesn't always make people happy but there it is.  -Daniel

[2022-09-01 01:28:41] - Daniel: They want to be told what to invest in and be done with it, not have to answer a bunch of questions. Problem is, I feel like knowing how close they are to retirement is too important. -Paul

[2022-09-01 01:27:39] - Daniel: Yeah, that's the dilemma I am facing now. the TLDR is I am pondering what kind of well-diversified basket would be reasonable to present to somebody who is likely to be the type of person who doesn't want to think about investing. -Paul

[2022-08-31 20:44:05] - I mean if you ask me with zero context what to invest in.....  But sure total market index is perfectly viable choice.  -Daniel

[2022-08-31 20:32:04] - daniel is always pushing the large-cap.  ~a

[2022-08-31 20:05:17] - My family asks me a lot what they should do with their money and then I ask what the money is for and they get annoyed that I'm asking them questions cause then they have to think and figure stuff out but yeah pretty much there are some basics you need to know.  -Daniel

[2022-08-31 20:04:22] - I mean....  You could just do a fifty fifty split between 500 index fund and total bond market?  But obviously knowing things like "its for retirement" or "its to buy a boat next year" would make a big difference.  -Daniel

[2022-08-31 16:21:11] - Daniel: I agree (heck, Kamala was a prosecutor, so even if she said things to the contrary, I was always suspicious). To your second point, though, it's a little weird because he addressed that in some comments too: https://www.axios.com/2022/08/30/biden-speech-wilkes-barre-pennsylvania-midterms "We expect [police] to do everything. We expect them to protect us, to be psychologist to be sociologists,"  -Paul

[2022-08-31 16:08:02] - -Daniel

[2022-08-29 21:11:10] - paul: But only because you told me I wouldn't guess him and normally I wouldn't guess him because I don't actually think he wouldn't get them in.  -Daniel

[2022-08-29 21:10:46] - paul: Dave.  -Daniel

[2022-08-29 20:42:35] - Daniel: Waiting on one person.... can you guess who? I'll bet you won't get it right with your first guess (hint?) -Paul

[2022-08-29 20:14:19] - paul: did you get all the keepers yet?  I'm being impatient to see who actually kept who!  -Daniel

[2022-08-29 18:08:05] - a: good for sc2 tonight? -Daniel

[2022-08-26 19:47:45] - Daniel: my lawn uses literally zero water. -- Xpovos

[2022-08-26 18:45:55] - paul/daniel:  what are your thoughts on mixed-density?  whenever communities talk about mixed-density everybody's nimby alarms go off, so if we could instead, look at a mixed-use neighborhood in a vacuum and ignore how it got there:  do you like the idea of multi-family (2-plex) homes and sfh on the same street?  paul, if you have your huge all-grass lawn, but down the street somebody instead has two families on the same plot, is that ok? ~a

[2022-08-26 18:42:27] - daniel:  being in the outdoors is good for the soul, i don't think it's oregon trail alone!  in nova, if you want hiking, or camping, or the great outdoors, you will probably be looking for (at best) mixed-density.  lots of that mixed-density is along the c&o canal though, so i still often use a non-car.  i'm going to just start calling it my non-car.  ~a

[2022-08-26 18:36:28] - a: Same idea though I think yeah more people in mixed / high density area's would lead to less cars but wondering what could lead to more people choosing that other than just $ factors.  -Daniel

[2022-08-26 18:35:18] - Like does learning about the Oregon Trail and the wild west and shit like that when we are super young ingrain in our minds as a general populace a desire for open space and thus single family housing?  Do single family homes by nature of being more expensive than apartments / condos / etc have more aspirational and thus fall more into the dream category?  Ranomd thoughts.  -Daniel

[2022-08-26 18:32:54] - daniel:  i don't want to promote bikes.  i just want to get people out of cars.  (not even exclusively, just like out of cars . . . some.  like, for context, i own two cars)  i agree higher density would help get people out of cars.  ~a

[2022-08-26 18:32:15] - a: I don't super care about lawns specifically either (though they do use a shit ton of water) but in general just wondering about the root causes for why we don't have more high density / mixed use areas and what could be done on those fronts to ultimately lead to more bikes.  -Daniel

[2022-08-26 18:31:08] - paul/daniel:  ok.  i don't actually care about lawns, i was kidding.  ~a

[2022-08-26 18:30:17] - .. a pro bike position than before.  -Daniel

[2022-08-26 17:52:45] - "everybody DOES want to live in a walkable neighborhood" - I think I would challenge this some too.  I think there are people that do choose high density but I think the stereotypical "American Dream" is still the single family house with a yard and that as more people get that it inevitably becomes lower density.  -Daniel

[2022-08-26 17:35:52] - daniel:  a bit of a quibble, but i usually try to say "fuck bikes" and focus on people on foot, and public transportation, and scooters.  but, this time i quoted a conservative commentator that was focusing on bikes, so i guess, my bad.  ~a

[2022-08-26 17:34:32] - daniel:  "zoning and multi use district advocates as an extreme example would that end up netting more bikers in the end?", eh it depends.  you can have shitty unusable car-friendly high-density areas too.  it's a shame, but they exist.  ~a

[2022-08-26 17:32:51] - daniel:  "which I think you do - but maybe less than biking"  yes.  both.  "w/o high density living going straight to advocating for bikes seems like a tough sell?"  yes, true.  ~a

[2022-08-26 17:31:05] - a: Life if all biking advocacy groups just dropped "bikes" from their platform and became zoning and multi use district advocates as an extreme example would that end up netting more bikers in the end?  -Daniel

[2022-08-26 17:30:16] - a: I'm not 100% but as an idea would it make more sense to advocate for higher desnity living spaces (which I think you do - but maybe less than biking) more than biking since I think more biking would follow from more high density living but w/o high density living going straight to advocating for bikes seems like a tough sell?  -Daniel

[2022-08-22 17:25:47] - daniel:  sure.  ~a

[2022-08-22 17:25:39] - a: good for sc2 tonight? -Daniel

[2022-08-19 17:15:49] - paul: Pretty sure my college roommate first year was / is R.  We got along ok.  I don't think it would be an issue for the most part.  Probably honestly better to make people talk in a situation where they can't just leave and also don't have to be besties.  -Daniel

[2022-08-18 14:51:06] - Daniel: I lost like 3 annoying ranked 1v1s in a row last night after you left, but I won a game where the protoss got his late gam colossus / stalker by using lurkers / hydra! I think they screwed up their micro some, but I was still very happy. -Paul

[2022-08-17 05:13:04] - Greatest is a very broad category (see all my rando nominations earlier).  Even at greatest CEO I'd probably go Gates over Musk.  Though I would admit I'd probably need to do some research to feel better about nominating anyone to that title.  -Daniel

[2022-08-17 02:29:42] - Daniel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0C6hnkwcpg How about this? -Paul

[2022-08-16 17:14:57] - a: Though I say that but like do hydras change appearance for their upgrades?  If so I've never noticed so maybe not all units?  -Daniel

[2022-08-16 17:14:17] - a: phoenix range is purple instead of blue.  I think most units have a visual cue somehow if you know what to look for.  -Daniel

[2022-08-16 17:13:44] - paul: Need one of those 4 colussus vs 10 lurker videos to see who wins.  Just cause they have longer range doesn't mean they win.  -Daniel

[2022-08-16 17:09:08] - Daniel: TIL that upgraded Lurkers have longer range than upgraded Colossi... -Paul

[2022-08-15 14:55:16] - daniel:  they go to the same same place, and neither of them have "notifications".  i do get notifications for here though!    i don't reply because i hardly ever check my email.  even my work email often gets ignored now that everybody is on slack (slack gives me notifications on my phone and computer).  ~a

[2022-08-15 14:53:01] - a: I put two different emails on the sc2 email cause I noticed I had two.  Do they end up in the same place or do you get notifications for both?  Sometimes you don't reply so I wasn't sure if maybe I had been using a "wrong" one.  -Daniel

[2022-08-15 00:20:56] - Daniel: But obviously this is something people can and do disagree on. I just don't quite get it. I hate most Apple products but I still can appreciate just how incredibly successful Jobs was and how he changed so much about American life. -Paul

[2022-08-15 00:17:28] - Daniel: I was mostly thinking of business people, but even still.... I don't disagree that strong arguments can be made for people like Rowling or Bogle or Feige. How about Norman Borlaug? I'm sure we could brainstorm lots of worthy individuals. I just think that it's really hard for me the accept any argument that Musk isn't up there. I think he has been just as instrumental in creating a transformative... -Paul

[2022-08-13 14:20:35] - paul/daniel:  i feel like musk is kinda some good and some bad.  his cars are heavy, his FSD doesn't/can't work, his starlink will never turn a profit.  but he also has spacex, and electric cars have some potential for good.  it's kinda like how jeff bezos has some good stuff about his inventions (aws) and some bad stuff (shitty labor/etc practices).  and mark zuckerberg, and the waltons, and steve jobs, and walt disney, etc.  ~a

[2022-08-13 05:57:53] - Reading that back looks like I thought Kevin Feige invented E-Trade.  I don't think that but was just continuing my brainstorming  -Daniel

[2022-08-13 05:55:40] - LeBron?  Trying to even think of other candidates and thinking outside the box of just shareholder / stock performance.  Honestly maybe John Bogle for inventing /  popularizing the index funds?  Who invented E-Trade? Kevin Feige?  Its hard to judge "successful and accomplished" across different careers.  Like does Putin deserve to be on the list?  Perhaps?  -Daniel

[2022-08-12 19:19:54] - Yeah I'm with miguel, that seems more like a tweet than what I would normally think of as a press release.  -Daniel

[2022-08-11 15:14:07] - Daniel: Thanks! I hear this is the way to win. -Paul

[2022-08-10 20:06:51] - paul: Also welcome to the two picks in the first round club.  Not many others have worked to join me here.   -Daniel

[2022-08-10 20:04:29] - Paul: Pretty sure it was Zeke who you needed the one last yard / touchdown to beat me.  -Daniel

[2022-08-10 18:45:11] - a: And it's not like I am doing well. Daniel was bragging recently about how he was kicking my ass in the fantasy league and I can't even really dispute that other than complain about stupid Devante Parker and... was it Zeke the other time? Or Alfred Morris? -Paul

[2022-08-10 18:26:40] - Daniel: Agreed. It's why I was in favor of the deal. -Paul

[2022-08-10 18:19:44] - Paul: sure - I don't think the trade is that crazy on its own but generally speaking trading into the first round requires a premium because it being in the first round opens up more options than a 2nd round pick.  -Daniel

[2022-08-10 18:15:13] - Daniel: I can tell you what I told Tim: Between the other picks Henry has, he is basically moving down a single spot with the 1st -> 2nd move. The 14th -> 15th move also helps him as he has two 15th round keepers. So from his standpoint, he is moving down one spot overall from the 10th pick and getting upgrades in the 5th and... 11th? rounds. -Paul

[2022-08-10 18:05:36] - a: Paul made a trade in our Fantasy League.  It raised my eyebrow but isn't anything crazy but Tim was casting aspersions on it.  -Daniel

[2022-08-10 17:36:04] - paul: I'm not Tim but I was also surprised at how little you had to trade to move up into the first round - though I get its only like three actual picks higher there is generally a premium for those first round picks.  -Daniel

[2022-08-05 14:41:46] - Daniel: Watching some Pig videos, eh? I saw that one yesterday I think. -Paul

[2022-08-04 18:05:00] - a:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZDwjDR8dF8 some D against cannon rushes.  Its hard to say if it would work exactly the same on multiplayer maps cause the ramps / enterances etc are different.  Howver you can see in the first game how he pulls a probe to just patrol / block where he knows printf wants to put the cannon stuff eventually.  Things like that are hard though.    -Daniel

[2022-08-03 20:40:50] - I'm rooting for the Dem's but I don't agree with stuff like this.  I think Pauls point below is true that its a bummer when stuff like this is incentivized.  -Daniel

[2022-07-26 14:53:02] - daniel:  Everyone does seem convinced the DCCC are doing these ads for Gibb's (maga guy) benefit. - mig

[2022-07-26 14:49:04] - daniel:  The intention appears to be to boost Gibb's name recognition within the state to get him competitive w/ Meijir.  These ad's audience are GOP primary voters, so the "too conservative" and "trump-y" is seen as a plus for those voters (in theory). - mig

[2022-07-26 14:45:12] - mig: I agree with the principle of what you are saying.  I'm confused by the article though since it says the DCCC ad says the maga candidate is to conservative for the district?  I didn't watch the ad but the characterization in the article makes it seem negative towards the maga candidate?  -Daniel

[2022-07-26 13:47:19] - Daniel: Sometimes. Secret negotiations behind people's backs. Knowing I will disappoint at least one person I am talking to when I go with another offer.... Thanks. It hurts to lose Kupp, but I feel like this helps diversify my talent while giving me some potential in the draft that I didn't necessarily have before. -Paul

[2022-07-25 21:18:23] - paul: Do Fantasy Football trades ever remind you of Diplomacy?  Not a bad overall haul for you.  -Daniel

[2022-07-18 18:33:05] - daniel:  "account for the Alamo and other historical sites around town"  accounting for it is fine, but limiting the height of all the buildings is just crazy.  ~a

[2022-07-18 18:28:12] - apparently San Antonio has a simliar-ish rule where buildings have to account for the Alamo and other historical sites around town.  I kind of get it but also it seems limiting to forever box yourself in too.  -Daniel

[2022-07-18 17:39:18] - daniel:  yeah it's a pretty small city, to be honest.  thanks to more federal overreach if you ask me.  ~a

[2022-07-18 17:09:13] - a: Moderately surprised, Nova does have a lot of people living there and a lot going on.  I am mildly surprised that DC doesn't even have 1mil in terms of pop though.  -Daniel

[2022-07-15 16:27:00] - daniel:  is it surprising that r/nova is bigger than r/washingtondc ?  in terms of active users, and posts, and comments, etc.  i figured it would be the other way around.  population wise / area wise, obviously nova is bigger.  (fuck, even fairfax county > washington dc, in population and area.  wow!)  ~a

[2022-07-08 16:46:04] - daniel:  "I'd also point out that 'beating the market' isn't always a goal"  yeah, i agree with this a lot.  but i'm not talking about volatility as paul mentions.  more like:  how much less money will i make if i don't have to invest in companies that will likely destroy the earth if they had their way.  0.1%/year?  more?  less?  ~a

[2022-07-08 15:33:57] - Daniel: Yeah. Good point. I'm still in "beat the market" age, but some day I'll likely be in "less volatility than the market" age. -Paul

[2022-07-08 13:42:00] - I'd also point out that "beating the market" isn't always a goal.  I'm very pro index fund and they don't have a goal of beating the market.  -Daniel

[2022-07-07 15:28:28] - a: I'm familiar with socially conscience aware investing yeah (assuming thats what those funds are).  -Daniel

[2022-07-07 15:08:32] - paul:  maybe?  the focus on making money at the expense of literally everything else is something that i've grown to dislike more and more over time.  i'm happy that some investors are coming to be more conciensious of what things they invest in.  the fact that vanguard has ESGV and blackrock has CRBN is kinda neat imo.  daniel, have you heard of esgv or crbn?  ~a

[2022-07-05 14:21:11] - Daniel: Watched the SC2 stalker video. Well played by Reynor, obviously, but I can't help but think if I tried any of those aggressive blink forwards then it wouldn't work out nearly so well for me. Every time I try them, I end up losing all my stalkers and killing virtually nothing. Seems odd Skillous didn't build a few more immortals to wipe out the stalkers. Seems like a more surefire bet than carriers. -Paul

[2022-06-25 02:52:50] - Daniel: I'm on vacation, so it's hard for me to watch that video, but I'm making a mental note to check it out when I get back! -Paul

[2022-06-24 16:58:13] - Also Roe finally happened.  -Daniel

[2022-06-24 16:57:58] - paul: More pro stalker propaganda.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGk9JgpLVAw  -Daniel

[2022-06-22 22:13:10] - a: Engine size maybe?  Don't know for sure either though.  -Daniel

[2022-06-22 15:45:10] - Daniel: "doesn't this make you unhappy?" Yes. I mean, it's tough being both in favor of responsible finances (ie, not spending more than you make) and also wanting smaller government. I want taxes lower AND lower spending. But is lower taxes without lower spending good? I guess not? It's a weird situation where compromise doesn't really work well. -Paul

[2022-06-22 15:42:36] - paul: "already doesn't pay for lots of things with taxes since it keeps spending more than it makes anyway" - doesn't this make you unhappy?  Wouldn't getting rid of a tax make that worse?  I do agree that EV's will change the situation / require some potential new tax in the future.  -Daniel

[2022-06-22 15:37:55] - paul: What pays for roads if we get rid of gas tax?  -Daniel

[2022-06-17 16:25:46] - Daniel: Yeah, I'm torn. The shell is pretty gnarly now and I imagine the hinge is going to be problematic going forward. But the screen was somehow not shattered. So I'm super annoyed it got dropped and broken, but it could've been far worse. -Paul

[2022-06-17 15:42:59] - Everytime I've had a drop bad enough to dent / break the shell the screen has also broken so its not come up for me before.  -Daniel

[2022-06-16 20:46:01] - I wonder why I didn't pick in 2019.  Hmm  -Daniel

[2022-06-16 19:43:16] - like, there's no way daniel would have put in tmfc and vgt  ~a

[2022-06-16 19:41:54] - daniel didn't technically enter in 2019.  i just meant "the market"  ~a

[2022-06-16 19:41:36] - a: Ah, maybe. The format changed a bit for 2019 so I just glossed over it. Was Daniel just VTI? -Paul

[2022-06-16 19:08:01] - Obviously my portfolio has been devastated over the past year or so. Out of curiosity, I went back to check the old Stock Market Challenge spreadsheets, wondering if it has been so bad that now those old portfolios were losing to Daniel / index funds. I was relieved to find that most (I think all of mine) still are winning. Then I realized that some of them even had unaccounted for stock splits for AMZN and TSLA and were still winning! -Paul

[2022-06-16 17:54:42] - I had a rough go with the first shot but mild on the boosters.  Also never gotten it that I'm aware of.  -Daniel

[2022-06-16 14:50:35] - Daniel: Yeah, I guess it's the "provide immunity" part that throws me. To me, immunity has meant you can't catch something, but apparently it just means "the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection". -Paul

[2022-06-16 14:20:21] - So I don't think its ever about making it impossible to catch the disease but rather preparing your body to deal with a disease ahead of time.  I think the theory is once you vaccinate enough people for a given disease you can essentially wipe it out but I think its always a risk to come back.  -Daniel

[2022-06-16 00:31:01] - Would I have sent the tweet as worded by Biden?  Probably not.  -Daniel

[2022-06-16 00:30:09] - Does it seem in line with how politicians just throw out stats that have some study behind them that require you to actually pay attention and dig to figure out the context for what it actually means?  Yes.  -Daniel

[2022-06-16 00:29:43] - No I would be like thats crazy / weird.  Which it is weird and very abnormal that they are counting unrealized gains.  Bidens tweet should probably have an asterisk or something on it but I think almost all tweets that contains stats should probably have that.  So I think I agree that its weird.  Is it misleading?  Maaaaaayyyyyyyybeee.  -Daniel

[2022-06-16 00:17:58] - Daniel: And if you found out I was doing something crazy like ignoring federal taxes you would just shrug and say, "to each their own"? -Paul

[2022-06-15 21:57:44] - Paul: I would assume your situation was more complicated in some way where an accountant helped  you jump through some hoops to have a low tax rate, but I wouldn't know how or why till I asked / found out more details. -Daniel

[2022-06-15 21:28:11] - Daniel: "I would dispute it have a pretty set meaning" Huh. So if I said my tax rate was 1% last year, you wouldn't think I was a tax cheat or had some amazing accountant, but would just assume I was counting my tax rate differently (like, maybe only counting state taxes paid or sales tax paid or something)? -Paul

[2022-06-15 21:12:56] - paul: I take the point that 'tax rate' does not normally accoutn for unrealized stock gains but I would dispute it have a pretty set meaning.  I think the amount of crap that determines someones tax rate is large and varies and is in no way set (except by the tax code which is huge / bonkers).  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 21:06:45] - Daniel: I agree that they cleverly left out the word "income" to make it less wrong, but I still think it's pretty misleading. "Tax rate" has a pretty set meaning, and while it isn't all income, it's definitely not unrealized stock gains either. I would assume "tax rate" referred to our current tax system and not some made-up one that somebody wishes we taxed people on. -Paul

[2022-06-15 21:02:06] - Lies, damn lies, and statistics.  You always have to figure out what any statistic means.  So in that regard yes I agree but also I don't think its paricularly stands out to me in the world of stats used by politicians.  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 21:00:58] - I guess I wouldn't assume it was strictly referring to tax on their income.  With all super rich people I think taxes get all sorts of weird with deductions and exemptions and carry over's and who knows what else so I would assume there is a lot going on there.  I wouldn't have assumed unrealized gains either at first but I also wouldn't have assumed anything simple either.  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:59:31] - You aren't only taxed on income though?  He didn't say income tax rate just tax rate?  I'm all for more clarity in things and part  of why twitter sucks for things like this.  I think part of that magic phrase is that it implies a way that people are using unrealized gains as a proxy for income in some way that isn't being taxed.  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:55:31] - daniel:  we've never considered change in wealth = income.  they're . . . like different words.  ~a

[2022-06-15 20:51:54] - Which is why I think the new key phrase is "Like all other forms of income, unrealized capital gains income can be tapped to finance consumption and can improve financial wellbeing."  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:51:21] - If they avoid taxes by taking loans and transferring stock to pay off the loans and it doesn't incur taxes that would seem to make it more legit?  I don't actually know though how that works.  Again not up on my super rich accounting.  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:49:56] - daniel:  so to get to $1.82e12 they add their total change in wealth to their state and local taxes paid.  yes, they're including unrealized stock gains.  i agree with paul now.  8% is a total bullshit number.  ~a

[2022-06-15 20:48:42] - Which I think could be true I'd probably want spelled out better for me, but also I'm not sure I want to google / research that currently either.  So......... yeah.  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:47:52] - It didn't go into why unrealized gains were included other than "Like all other forms of income, unrealized capital gains income can be tapped to finance consumption and can improve financial wellbeing."  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:47:51] - daniel:  i found it, thanks!  $149e9 / $1.82e12 = 8%  ~a

[2022-06-15 20:47:15] - I didn't read it super carefully but trying to do some speed reading my take aways are that yes they are including unrealized gains in determing the 8% number but not suggesting those be taxed.  Rather that stepped  up basis upon inheritance and low capital gains are places policy could change.  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:45:59] - https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2021/09/23/what-is-the-average-federal-individual-income-tax-rate-on-the-wealthiest-americans/  Thats the actual whole article thing on the white house site.  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:37:52] - daniel:  that's fair.  and for what it's worth i agree with you anyways.  the highlighted section could be literally anything.  and how we get to 8% is still tbd.  ~a

[2022-06-15 20:37:40] - I think someone following up with WH / that study and asking 'what does this mean?' would be a good question though .  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:36:53] - a: I don't think I would assume that no.  I don't know what it would mean but I think with weird accounting there are weird possibilties (like the loan shenanigans).  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:35:17] - daniel:  income from "unsold stock" could only possibly mean dividends or unrealized gains.  right?  and i'm pretty sure it means both.  ~a

[2022-06-15 20:33:38] - The sentence from her screenshot with highlighting is "comprehensive measure of their income that includes income from unsold stock".  I'm not sure what that means but it seems like she is assuming it means stock appreciation.  Which I'm less sure of.    I don't see a screenshot that says 'unrealized stock gains'?  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:29:12] - daniel:  i don't think it's about *taxing* unrealized stock gains, but using unrealized stock gains to determine tax rates.  which is dumb if that's what the potus is doing.  ~a

[2022-06-15 20:28:44] - daniel:  in the next few tweets they highlight "unrealized stock gains" in a document.  i'm just not sure how we get from that highlighted section to 8%.  we can't know that 8% includes unrealized stock gains.  ~a

[2022-06-15 20:28:27] - But yeah I think taxing unrealized stock gains seems like a bad plan given how volatile stuff is.  Stock worth X on any given day is almost guaranteed to not be worth X the next day.  -Daniel

[2022-06-15 20:27:20] - I mean reading through it seems like she is assuming its unrealized stock gains?  I'm not sure what it is but I've also heard about trying to figure out taxing on loans taken with stock as collateral or something?  I'm not up on my mega rich accounting but I think its possible its something other than just unrealized stock gains.  -Daniel

[2022-06-14 20:13:25] - Yeah I wouldn't put my emergency fund in IBonds either.  Just if you have some other cash portion of savings it still seems like a reasonable thing to have it in.  -Daniel

[2022-06-14 19:48:01] - Daniel: I mostly agree, but the one thing cash is better at is liquidity. Companies are starting to do layoffs and lots of people are talking recession. If I recall, you can't sell iBonds within the first few months at all, and then there is the penalty if sold within 5 years, so if I suddenly need the money within the next few months that could be problematic. -Paul

[2022-06-14 19:34:56] - daniel:  paul is something like 100% in equities and crypto?  and he's like 40?  my guess is that any advisor would say, you need something else.  ~a

[2022-06-14 19:32:43] - not Adrian, but I think they are still solid in terms of being part of the 'cash' portion of an overall portfolio.  If you have a savings account getting ~1% some of that being in IBonds seems good.  I wouldn't say IBonds over stocks for a longer term growth though.  -Daniel

[2022-06-14 14:01:27] - Daniel: Are they mutually exclusive? You are saying this is evidence of the latter instead of the former? That's fair. Do you think he didn't believe what he was saying? Because I kinda still think he did. -Paul

[2022-06-14 13:53:19] - Paul: I think the question is idiot vs malicious actor.  -Daniel

[2022-06-13 16:16:54] - paul/daniel:  i like humble.  they often make a lot of games available for linux, and in the distant past they allowed payment with bitcoin.  ~a

[2022-06-13 16:16:11] - Yeah humble is legit.  I've gotten things from there before.  -Daniel

[2022-06-13 16:15:30] - Daniel: Not yet, but I thought about giving it a try since it looks on sale here. Humble is legit, right? https://www.humblebundle.com/store/inscryption -Paul

[2022-06-13 16:14:40] - Paul: Yeah I think Inscryption is a good game.  Did  you try it?  -Daniel

[2022-06-13 16:01:52] - Daniel: Was Inscryption the game you highly recommended before? -Paul

[2022-06-13 15:54:50] - daniel:  i can play every day.  thanks!  ~a

[2022-06-13 15:46:17] - a: You have an answer for sc2 email since you didn't get to play last week?  -Daniel

[2022-06-13 15:45:48] - a: I'd probably need to brush up on history to give an accurate ranking?  I wouldn't dismiss a both 25% ranking out of hand though?  I feel like its possible he floats up towards to below average once I went through reviewing old school presidents.    Maybe that isn't a lot of distinction though.  -Daniel

[2022-06-13 15:40:58] - paul:  "I really honestly do think he's more than a little senile at this point too"  i've been saying this since before he was elected.  you're also 100% about the gaffs.  that also started well before his election and inauguration.  . . . i'd put him in the bottom quartile and i assume you agree to that.  daniel?  ~a

[2022-06-13 15:33:41] - daniel:  like the inflation thing still feels like a major fuck up to me.  Inflation happening in the first place isn't his fault, but the year long denialism (which certainly made it worse) absolutely is. - mig

[2022-06-13 15:32:01] - yeah I don't think I can blame covid death's on Biden.  I think maybe R politicians didn't come out hard enough in support of measures / masks but even then I'm not really sure.  McConnell was pro mask I'm pretty sure.  -Daniel

[2022-06-13 15:30:28] - paul: Oh yeah Afghanistan (which is a ridiculous statement in some ways).  I think its hard for me to say how much was his fault but yeah happened under his watch so I can get that.  -Daniel

[2022-06-13 15:29:27] - Daniel: Border issues with kids in cages, massive COVID deaths (more than during Trump's admin), Ukraine war. It's just been non-stop badness during his admin, both in terms of things pretty directly his fault and also things it's hard to blame him for (but which will go down in history as happening on his watch). Fair or not, that's what happens with Presidents. -Paul

[2022-06-13 15:25:54] - Daniel: The market going south is going to sink his approval ratings and his chances at re-election, but I think his awfulness goes well beyond that. He remains an epic gaffe machine and the administration keeps having to walk back statements he makes. I really honestly do think he's more than a little senile at this point too. Afghanistan was an epic disaster even if I applaud him making the right decision. -Paul

[2022-06-13 15:16:19] - Is Biden all time bad or just there?  I get that Biden doesn't have a ton of feathers in his hat and I wouldn't call him great or anything obviously but is it all time bad just cause the market went south?  -Daniel

[2022-06-13 15:14:49] - paul: Insurer's I would totally get wanting to know current gender and/or gender at birth for actuarial ($) reasons.  Employers might depend on the work.  Does gender matter for a pilot or software engineer?  But maybe some other job its more relevant.  -Daniel

[2022-06-12 04:05:54] - a: harstem vs rotterdam definitely is a bit confusing.  Also odd that in two dutch SC2 people are so prominent in the community.  -Daniel

[2022-06-10 17:10:42] - mig:  that's paul, not daniel.  ~a

[2022-06-10 17:09:34] - daniel:  sure it's a bigger story if he was more serious about carrying out the threat.  The problem though, is this still is pretty grave on its own.  If SCOTUS justices end up changing their mind on Dobbs from what are currently people expecting, the perception is that mob rule will get you what you want when it comes to any big SCOTUS ruling. That's like a BFD. - mig

[2022-06-10 14:46:44] - daniel:  i'd change C57 to =3334.34/20 (leaving the equation in the cell so the context and history is correctly preserved).  ~a

[2022-06-10 14:45:13] - daniel:  yes, paul needs to fix gurkie's amazon row manually.  (also, it's not a 2-1 split)  ~a

[2022-06-10 14:44:25] - a: Does an amazon stock split mean that Gurkie's fantasy investing thing is off?  If the stock went down some but you have twice as much?  -Daniel

[2022-06-10 13:55:32] - mig: I think if the attempt had been more of actual attempt with shots fired or trying to break into the house or something like that my guess is it might be a bigger story.  But I agree with Adrian that the 1/6 stuff is sucking air out of the room.  -Daniel

[2022-06-10 13:54:03] - I didn't watch.  Almost all hearings seem to be like more than 50% fluff before it gets to the point of whatever its doing.  I'm impatient and willing to wait on reddit / npr telling me if anything notable happened.  -Daniel

[2022-06-10 11:34:08] - daniel:  i like your answer, and i agree the ages need to change, but i feel that anybody that tries to change the ages will get their hands cut off.  or, some sort of analogy.  ~a

[2022-06-09 18:01:41] - I do generally think defined benefit plans are worse than ones where you own your own money (for me and people I can help) but they do require people to be more active in their financial decisions etc so I'm not sure if that is realistic in terms of a solution across an entire populace.  -Daniel

[2022-06-09 18:00:31] - I think ages could change some sure?  I think taxes are probably the bigger game changer in terms of helping it out.  I just think that as a economic system there is enough wealth in it to sustain SS.  -Daniel

[2022-06-09 17:45:08] - I don't think SS is inherently unsustainable(thats a long word to type out).  It might be with current funding etc but I think policies / taxes could be changed to make it sustainable.  -Daniel

[2022-06-09 17:09:35] - Daniel: Yeah, Google's API goes wonky sometimes. Usually it's temporary, although it has been screwed up for AXON (ticker change from AXXN I believe) for awhile. -Paul

[2022-06-09 15:07:50] - paul/daniel:  it's because the stock ticker changed.  it's "meta" now.  ~a

[2022-06-09 14:50:51] - Gurkies stock challenge thing seems to have gone crazy some, google apparently thinks FB is worth 5k.  -Daniel

[2022-06-09 13:53:26] - a: I donate to them but fundraising week is annoying.  -Daniel

[2022-06-09 13:52:51] - NPR (and reddit?) are my main two news sources I think.  -Daniel

[2022-06-09 13:52:30] - paul/daniel:  yeah it sucks that it's their fucking fundraising week (here in nova, i'm not sure if they line these up nationally or not).  i refuse to donate to npr during their god damn fundraising week.  ~a

[2022-06-09 13:52:22] - a: Sorry you are still feeling sick too! -Daniel

[2022-06-09 13:51:50] - paul: I also heard about it on NPR. -Daniel

[2022-06-09 10:44:26] - daniel:  sorry i missed games last night.  i'm still kinda sick.  ~a

[2022-06-08 19:43:05] - Daniel: I think I settled on Pig being my preferred source of YouTube vids. I've definitely been watching more SC2 stuff since we've been playing more regularly as well. Not sure if it has improved my game, but I have picked up a few smart things like shield batteries in my natural when aggression is scouted (I never used to do that) and building more production buildings (something I was previously bad at). -Paul

[2022-06-08 18:36:42] - I think partly I had a period when Harden left the Rockets where basketball made me sad and I think I ended up filling that space with SC2.  -Daniel

[2022-06-08 18:36:10] - a: I've watched some of Harstem's stuff but not a ton.  I definitely watched a lot more SC2 on youtube since we started playing more regularly.  I watch Vibe on twitch and Lowko on youtube a lot.  Also GSL occasionally.  -Daniel

[2022-06-08 18:32:12] - Yeah I think the article is reasonable.  Climate Change is a thing that we need to deal with but its not turning our planet into Venus in the immediate future.  -Daniel

[2022-06-08 14:02:41] - paul/daniel:  sorry if someone already posted this, but i've been watching a lot of "beating grandmasters with stupid stuff" because they're mostly hilarious.  one was "pretenging i'm afk" where he acts like he's afk while he builds a base somewhere else.  once his opponent kills his "main" base, then the jig is up, but it's pretty funny to watch.  ~a

[2022-06-06 18:36:06] - Daniel: I was surprised Rogue lost that last fight in the second game. Looked like he had enough. I think those zealots were sneaky effective. It's odd that the casters didn't make a bigger deal of the fact that Protoss seemed to consistently be on the same number of bases as Zerg, though. Seems relevant. But yeah, those stalkers seem like 5X more effective than mine ever are. -Paul

[2022-06-06 18:31:46] - daniel:  i'm in this week, i think:  i'm kinda sick . . . so i'd prefer wednesday thursday or friday?  ~a

[2022-06-06 16:39:20] - paul: Turns out blink stalkers are good if used carefully.  -Daniel

[2022-06-06 16:32:19] - a: You out again for SC2?  -Daniel

[2022-06-06 16:32:12] - paul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv0TMbyqL9U - I haven't watched the whole series yet but the first game shows that Stalkers can have some value since you shit on them a lot  -Daniel

[2022-06-02 13:45:29] - Daniel: https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Concussive_Shells You were right, concussive shells do not affect attack speed. -Paul

[2022-06-01 22:33:10] - Daniel: Can't tell if I am older and thus less tolerant of change, or if they have gotten worse, but I'm so fed up with their constant rebranding / sunsetting of products / creating duplicate products -Paul

[2022-06-01 21:18:26] - paul: yeah google does a lot and makes some cool stuff but long term stability / consistency isn't really their strongest suit.  -Daniel

[2022-05-31 23:43:26] - daniel:  i'm out this week, thanks!  ~a

[2022-05-31 20:12:37] - a: You have votes on SC2 email? -Daniel

[2022-05-25 13:35:02] - First place in the stock challenge!  Sad yay, I think for all of us...  -Daniel

[2022-05-23 15:12:17] - a: That sounds like something I said but I don't remember a specific key phrase to search on.  -Daniel

[2022-05-23 15:03:51] - a: Ha producers, the Obamas.  Just a bit pro gov.  -Daniel

[2022-05-23 01:09:52] - daniel:  well they did it, those crazy fucking bastards.  it's called the g word (and the executive producers are kindaaaa pro government).  it's definitely not 100% pro-government.  it's got pen and teller doing their shtick!  episode 4 they're literally like, your public dollars go to create this thing that we all use.  if you watch one episode, make it episode 4, but watch the other episodes too.  ~a

[2022-05-23 01:06:51] - daniel:  i tried to search the message board and couldn't find it.  you had said something like . . . that the government should do better public relations?  and advertise some places that public money goes?  so people wouldn't be as anti-taxes as they are?  like a psa or something?  i didn't make this up, right?  you said something like that?  what should i search for?  ~a

[2022-05-20 15:07:42] - Daniel: Every single damn game when I am Terran, I start thinking: "Now's the game I do medi-vac drops or liberator harass".... and every damn game I forget about it. -Paul

[2022-05-20 15:07:08] - Daniel: Like the lurker thing, or trying to counter with speedlings while hitting his mid-left base. Or even trying to get into his main. -Paul

[2022-05-20 15:06:45] - Daniel: Good job against Vibe. It's so weird. I can logically see a bunch of stuff you could've done differently while re-watching, but I also 200% know I wouldn't be able to come up with those things in the heat of battle. -Paul

[2022-05-20 14:56:33] - Daniel: Yeah, that blast door thing in Dr Strange 2 was so obvious and weird. -Paul

[2022-05-20 13:58:14] - Daniel: Watching the stream now. -Paul

[2022-05-20 13:39:56] - paul: I know this guy's whole thing is just to make fun of stuff but I think he goes through several of my same gripes with Dr Strange: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDsRjbqZFUw -Daniel

[2022-05-20 04:06:15] - a: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1488369588  Near the end, not sure how to timestamp it starts around 6:11 into the stream. -Daniel

[2022-05-20 03:07:50] - daniel:  wtf, wow!  do you have a video?!  ~a

[2022-05-20 02:28:53] - a/Paul: Just played Vibe on stream.  He wanted to make an example against a plat player, so I volunteered.  I lost (obviously) but was fun.  -Daniel

[2022-05-19 21:41:05] - I think the both sides doing it is sad though as it provides an out where people can just throw up their hands and say "Both sides suck" instead of "Both sides suck but one sucks more"  -Daniel

[2022-05-19 21:39:43] - Its like the prisoner's dilemma.  If R's were the only ones who did bad things they would just win even more I think.  Which is a sad sentence and I wish no one had to  do any of those bad things.  I 100% think that R's do it more / harder / more conviction etc because they are forced to by being the minority party and having to get creative to not just completely loose power outside the senate.  -Daniel

[2022-05-19 21:37:47] - -Daniel

[2022-05-18 18:56:55] - Daniel: Skytoss is pretty hard to counter if you let them get there. -Paul

[2022-05-18 17:57:45] - a: "protoss is best" - clearly your most radical position.  -Daniel

[2022-05-18 16:57:00] - paul:  i like daniel's definition of a good government but it seems a bit subjective.  mine is an ass-backwards definition, but much less subjective.  do you have one?  ~a

[2022-05-18 16:41:21] - Daniel: "I don't think its inherently evil" I'm on the fence. If any type of government could be considered inherently evil, I would put communism in there, but I'm also fine if we're going to have nuance and say no type of government is inherently evil, but all can be used for evil purposes. -Paul

[2022-05-18 16:35:44] - I think the overall idea of US gov is solid though the EC and Senate are a bit out of wack but I do get the idea of trying to give geographic space / resources some weight (kind of - I'm most conflicted on this I think) but I think we messed up when we capped the number of reps.  Thats led to some of our issues.  -Daniel

[2022-05-18 16:33:48] - I think a good government represents the will of the people while potentially trying to lead in "good" way or trying to encourage some sort of "good" change.  However people generally disagree on the specifics of "good" as I think we've shown here on the msg board.  -Daniel

[2022-05-18 16:32:45] - a: lol  -Daniel

[2022-05-18 16:24:48] - Yeah I don't think we really need to debate communism and I would say its definitely seriously flawed but I don't think its inherently evil but that it definitely has been used by very bad people.  -Daniel

[2022-05-18 16:12:56] - Daniel: And I feel like those people are probably unfamiliar with Mao, at the very least. -Paul

[2022-05-18 16:12:26] - Daniel: I don't know about "idolize", but I can tell you with certainty that there are people who get very angry if you imply that communists have done some very bad things. -Paul

[2022-05-18 16:04:23] - Anti Castro is probably still a good political move in FL though.  -Daniel

[2022-05-18 16:03:44] - Who idolizes Mao?  -Daniel

[2022-05-18 15:39:18] - Daniel: Hah, yeah. I feel like it's especially a problem with libertarians because when you believe in maximum freedom, that often attracts people who want to use that to.... for example.... advocate pedophilia or use their freedom of speech to push anti-semitism or race essentialism. -Paul

[2022-05-18 15:32:32] - "disagree with the reasons he believes them" - this is always tricky / annoying for me when people agree with a conclusion but for terrible reasons.  I get annoyed when they jump in and try to "help" in some debate but just end up making my side look worse and I'm like 'why are you trying to help, please stop!'  -Daniel

[2022-05-17 20:50:32] - Future timestamp threw me for a loop at first!  Had to double check what today's date is.  -Daniel

[2022-05-17 13:32:30] - Daniel: I was disappointed in Dr. Strange 2 as well and have largely been disappointed in the post-Endgame movies. Some of the shows have been good, Too many of the movies have been mediocre. Also, the multi-verse stories seem surprisingly disjointed. -Paul

[2022-05-16 20:51:41] - a: The idea of non exhaust emissions has never even occurred to me though it makes sense once I think about it.  -Daniel

[2022-05-16 15:13:47] - Not sure where everyone here stands on the MCU but anyone have thoughts on Dr Strange 2? I mostly didn't like and am worried / sad for the MCU in its post endgame world.  -Daniel

[2022-05-12 15:29:37] - a: Closest I get is when I am on Mark's team and he takes Daniel's natural as his proxy hatch and I think, "great, now I have to back up this cheese" -Paul

[2022-05-12 15:27:41] - Daniel: Also, after the first part of that fight ended with me barely winning, I caught a bunch of your reinforcements piecemeal and killed them AND I got 1-1 upgrades while yours hadn't finished yet (bad timing on my part, I probably should've waited to attack until they were finished. -Paul

[2022-05-12 15:26:37] - Daniel: I can understand why you didn't see the immortal, though. It bizarrely took an entirely different route to your base and ran into a queen that it killed before joining the main fight from the other end. -Paul

[2022-05-12 15:09:11] - Daniel: I was curious about that PvZ battle in our second to last 1v1 last night, so I watched a replay this morning. Army supply was 35-27 in my favor at the start of that decisive middle battle between my zealots and your roaches. I think part of it might be that zealots look smaller? I admit your roach force looked bigger. -Paul

[2022-05-11 23:32:19] - Daniel: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abortion-quandary/ This goes over some of those nuances well, I think. -Paul

[2022-05-11 23:27:46] - Daniel: Sure, but in my opinion that's overly simplifying a complex topic. The largest group answered: "legal in most, but not all, cases" and the next largest group said "illegal in most, but not all cases". You could easily read that as "majority of Americans want restrictions on abortion". -Paul

[2022-05-11 21:53:12] - daniel:  not sure I’m a fan of the position labelling.    I might consider myself legal in all or most cases.  Or not, depending on how “most” is defined. - mig

[2022-05-11 21:48:03] - Paul: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/06/17/key-facts-about-the-abortion-debate-in-america  59% is pretty strong support for a national issue.  -Daniel

[2022-05-11 21:07:29] - Daniel: In this case, does the Senate not reflect the will of the people? We haven't really touched on it, but Americans are pretty split (and sometimes confused) on abortion. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx -Paul

[2022-05-11 21:02:18] - Daniel: I kind of agree, but I also think the framing of the article is a little silly as well. They go into detail about needing 60 votes to defeat the filibuster and how all Republicans voted against it and the Senate is split 50/50.... but all that is frankly beside the main point that they couldn't even get a majority, filibuster or not. -Paul

[2022-05-11 20:32:03] - Paul: Also just goes to show why people don't like the Senate (and EC. and the house?) because it doesn't reflect will of the people.  -Daniel

[2022-05-11 20:30:54] - Paul: That seems like a technically correct but silly sentence because even if Manchin had voted for it thus getting all D's it still wouldn't be a majority.  "Dem controlled Senate by virtue of tie breaker not actually more senators" is more accurate  -Daniel

[2022-05-11 19:10:43] - When I posted I was only .1 off the lead.  Further now.  -Daniel

[2022-05-11 19:08:01] - Daniel: Oh, I'm sorry, we switched it to a competition to see who can lose the most money this year. Didn't I tell you? -Paul

[2022-05-11 17:55:12] - so close to taking the lead in the stock market challenge!  -Daniel

[2022-05-09 17:52:50] - a: You have a vote for sc2 b/w Mon vs Wed?  Since you missed last week you can have the deciding vote.  -Daniel

[2022-05-09 17:51:52] - bragging at -17%! Woooo.....  -Daniel

[2022-05-09 17:48:08] - Daniel: Now is your time to brag, btw. I'm getting absolutely massacred by the market this year. -Paul

[2022-05-09 17:13:24] - daniel:  i finally have more etfs than mutual funds (i'm now barely over 50-50).  it basically took this minor market-crash for this to happen because i wasn't about to pay capital-gains to make such a change.  ~a

[2022-05-06 16:20:54] - daniel:  "Could see if any of these are available through Vanguard?"  all US etfs are available on all US trading platforms, so i'm a bit confused by the wording of your question    ~a

[2022-05-06 16:13:23] - daniel:  here's the graph i made.  i'm a bit confused by this.  i get that there will be dividends that will account for interest or whatever.  but these move around a lot (many going -2% this last year, and something weird happened march of last year).  except bil i guess.  bil might be what i'm looking for.  ~a

[2022-05-06 16:07:13] - a: Could see if any of these are available through Vanguard?  https://www.investopedia.com/articles/etfs-mutual-funds/070916/top-4-money-market-fund-etfs-2016-shv-near.asp  -Daniel

[2022-05-06 15:33:02] - daniel:  i just figured, this is why we HAVE etfs right?  for flexibility and ease?  maybe there's something weird about money markets.  maybe they like don't make enough interest to overcome their expense, or something.  ~a

[2022-05-06 15:32:01] - daniel:  i guess, sorta.  vanguard has vmfxx.  maybe that's what i'll do.  ~a

[2022-05-06 15:30:49] - a: Do those places have money market funds?  -Daniel

[2022-05-06 15:29:23] - a: Don't you have to open an account somewhere to buy etfs? -Daniel

[2022-05-06 15:21:08] - daniel:  in other news i'm looking for something weird.  a money-market etf.  i can't seem to find anything like this, and i'm a bit surprised.  i found jpst and vusb.  but i literally want a money market etf.  i want it to go negative never.  and basically creep up at a snail's pace.  (maybe what i really want is a literal CD or money market, but i wish it was as easy as buying/selling an etf.  i don't want to "open an account".)  ~a

[2022-05-06 15:13:58] - daniel:  ugh.  ~a

[2022-05-06 15:13:08] - Just as more context for this whole discussion, its now the whole country but shows where some want to go with this ruling: https://www.wwno.org/2022-05-05/louisiana-bill-would-allow-murder-charges-for-abortions-opponents-call-it-barbaric  -Daniel

[2022-05-06 13:38:33] - Daniel: It's a little unclear, though. Some of them mention cut-offs at certain weeks of gestation. Others don't. Most seem to have exceptions for medical necessity. -Paul

[2022-05-05 19:05:19] - https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/03/us/state-abortion-trigger-laws-roe-v-wade-overturned/index.html  - Lots of bans or bans after six weeks in there.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 18:53:30] - Daniel: So even in a "worst case scenario" of all the Southern states banning all abortions and there being a significant number of people there who want to get one, there are still not completely unreasonable options? -Paul

[2022-05-05 18:52:44] - Daniel: It could be significant, but I guess I would like to see some numbers? Apparently half of all abortions are done medically now, and often the pills can be ordered online? https://www.newsweek.com/abortion-pills-that-are-legal-us-how-order-online-1702875 -Paul

[2022-05-05 18:35:05] - Paul: I don't have numbers but that crosses my threshold for 'significant'.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 18:33:49] - Paul: All the ones in the South from women who don't have the means to travel to get them.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 16:46:18] - Emotionally I think most people (everyone?) should be sympathetic to the pro life side.  I think everyone ought to agree that killing children / babies is not a good outcome.  Defining what counts as "a baby" and when even if its not a good outcome its still allowed has been challenging clearly.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 16:44:28] - paul:  26 weeks is still vanishingly uncommon.  i kinda don't care about third trimester abortions.  you and daniel and miguel can talk about them if you want?    i'd prefer to focus on 1st and 2nd trimester honestly.  ~a

[2022-05-05 16:44:01] - Paul: Even if on some level I could tolerate euthanasia post birth in some circumstances I think largely I'd be ok with birth being a line at least.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 16:39:25] - Daniel: Yeah, that's all fair. Not trying to say it's an easy decision. But I do think at some point the baby has rights to not be killed, even if the mom thinks it is the right call. I don't know where I draw the line, but I think no later than birth and maybe before birth. -Paul

[2022-05-05 16:36:55] - I think my policy position is slightly more extremeish than most potentially on the pro choice side but mostly cause I think I trust in the difficulty of the decision to be a limiting factor in and of itself.  I think there is trauma involved in choosing abortion (especially the longer the term was carried) and that is sufficient deterrent.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 16:34:41] - Paul: Euthanasia is another hard topic.  I'm not sure yet?  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 16:28:21] - Daniel: So, Devil's advocate, post birth abortion? Baby is born. Parents realize it has down's syndrome. Euthanasia? The woman not only carried the baby 9+ months but ALSO gave birth, so shouldn't her judgement still be trusted? -Paul

[2022-05-05 16:01:44] - Paul: I would probably also go so far that if a woman carried the baby 9+ months she probably already loves the baby so then to decide to abort would be on some level euthanasia of someone else.  Maybe we could get some rules on double parental consent of abortions in "safe" cases past 7 months or something?  But that also seems verrrryyyy tricky / dangerous in terms of the idea of "forced birth".  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 15:59:26] - Paul: I think so, if a woman carried her baby all the way to birth then she was clearly planning on going through with it and something in the situation has changed and she/they are going to make one of the hardest decisions in their life.  I would go so far to say there are 0 'casual' day of birth abortions but ONLY extreme situations in some way or another.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 15:49:29] - Daniel: So, just to be clear, you would be fine with a mother aborting her fetus all the way up to the day of birth? -Paul

[2022-05-05 14:48:34] - Where anyone who already carried the baby for 7 months not just deciding to abort on a whim. -Daniel

[2022-05-05 14:47:32] - Paul: If I were in charge I wouldn't put limits on the legality of it.  I would trust that the woman who was carrying the baby would have thought through it more than me and would have some compelling reason for choosing her path.  I think there is a natural relationship between the length of term already carried leading to needing ever increasing compelling reasons.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 14:01:18] - Daniel: I understand the woman might have a compelling reason, but should it be legal? That's what we're talking about, right? It's certainly a tough line to draw, but it has to be drawn somewhere. -Paul

[2022-05-05 13:49:41] - That was also where I wonder if better funds / efforts could be put into adoptive / foster systems to make those options seem a better choice to further reduce late term abortions.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 13:46:16] - Paul: I think for a third trimester abortion the woman will already have decided to carry the baby for 7+ months and then will be changing their mind and I think they will have had a compelling reason and feel that much worse for their decision.  Again (without research) I would imagine the number of 'casual' third trimester abortions to be extremely low.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 13:39:13] - Daniel: "if there is a compelling enough reason for a woman to feel like its neccessary to abort and they are willing I don't think I would stand in their way" Even if it's a third trimester fetus? -Paul

[2022-05-05 13:34:24] - a: Its irrelevant potentially to the courts decision.  I think its relevant overall for a governments legitimacy.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 04:30:36] - daniel:  regarding the will of the people.  the will of the people is sometimes irrelevant, though right?  especially when you're dealing with the courts.  ~a

[2022-05-05 00:24:00] - "Either court precedents are sacrosanct or they aren't.  You can't be selective about it."  I agree with Miguel that in principle prior rulings aren't set in stone forever and even laws can change over time.  I think the trick with this one is that it doesn't represent the will of the people and that the way this court came to be has some serious sheninigans attached to it.  -Daniel

[2022-05-05 00:22:27] - I would amend my position by noting that probably early term abortions are more "casual" (and I'm still not sure that is the right word) but that those are also the least objectionable.  -Daniel

[2022-05-04 23:35:26] - ... better and more viable option for an otherwise viable fetus.  -Daniel

[2022-05-04 14:47:32] - Daniel: " think the theory is if the fetus is "a person" then from that stems other questions related to its 'personhood'." Sure, I get that, but we have plenty of cases where people are undoubtedly people but don't have certain benefits just by virtue of being a person. Citizenship is contingent. Child support is contingent. -Paul

[2022-05-04 14:46:30] - paul:  "things should be judged on their own merits"  that's fair.  delete my statement and replace it with daniel's.  ~a

[2022-05-04 14:39:08] - I think the theory is if the fetus is "a person" then from that stems other questions related to its 'personhood'.  Eg citizenship, insurability, child support etc.  -Daniel

[2022-04-27 14:15:44] - Daniel: So, in this instance, I think twitter banning people is absolutely impactful to freedom of speech, but not applicable to the 1st Amendment since they are a private company and can do what they want. -Paul

[2022-04-27 01:14:17] - daniel:  agreed.  or even worse, would be the politicans (and to a much lesser degree judges) who are for sale.  ~a

[2022-04-27 01:12:05] - Mostly I think I don't agree with the seeming fundamental premise that twitter = "THE town square" as if there weren't other options (Facebook, Newspapers, Instagram, Reddit, WhatsApp, TikTok, NPR, etc).  -Daniel

[2022-04-27 01:10:02] - I wouldn't equate anything to do with twitter to do with freedom of speech.  If twitter bans people willy nilly or whatever I think it makes them assholes potentially or whatever but I don't think people's ability to get their opinions out in the world are curtailed.  I'd find it a much bigger deal if Verizon / Google / ATT ISP type people were bought by Musk with the intent to censor / limit content.  -Daniel

[2022-04-26 19:28:12] - I just have a hard time being motivated about Musk/Twitter cause it doesn't seem that big a deal to me.  Bezos owns WaPo.  Murdoch owns Fox.  Someone owns CNN, NYT, etc.  Sinclair owns all the local stations.  Is there a news source that isn't owned by someone?  NPR? Sort of?  People just gotta be informed, which is a high bar but once you fail that its hard for me to be mad at the messenger.  -Daniel

[2022-04-26 19:18:44] - daniel:  https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1518777886668374016 yes, to some degree some people are worried he's going to be disenfranchising voices and influencing elections. - mig

[2022-04-26 19:15:56] - daniel:  also, i agree with your second message.  it's not the bakery scenario.  ~a

[2022-04-26 19:05:40] - daniel:  well there was a certain level of sarcasm there, sorry.  but to answer seriously (to your first message), musk will ban some people.  i guarantee it.  and those people might be disproportionately part of protected classes.  but, no, i was joking:  i don't actually think he'll ban people because they're gay (etc).  i hate elon musk, but not because he hates gay people or something like that.  ~a

[2022-04-26 18:59:34] - a: I think its more akin to a bakery that does business with Trump is totally allowed but if everyone else decides they don't want to do business with that bakery another bakery that didn't serve Trump could easily open because there isn't anything inherently special about the first bakery other than everyone knows about it.  -Daniel

[2022-04-26 18:58:03] - a: I'm confused.  If Musk starts kicking off all gay people or whatever I'm sure there would be a problem.  But I don't think he is planning anything that clear cut / extreme.  Or that people are super worried about that?  Isn't it more like he will be pro free speech and letting people just post more whatever they want?  -Daniel

[2022-04-26 18:56:35] - Cause if the user base leaves it doesn't seem like it would be that hard for some company to create Twitter V2 as I currently understand Twitters features.  -Daniel

[2022-04-26 18:56:33] - daniel:  oh look who's all "freedom of association" now?  tell me what should happen if musk decides to open a bakery?  ~a

[2022-04-26 18:55:56] - Does Twitter have anything special other than some system to verify a user so that we can be reasonably sure that https://twitter.com/Lesdoggg is actually Leslie Jones vs someone pretending to be her?  Is there anything else special about it in terms of actual features?  I know it has a big user base.  -Daniel

[2022-04-26 18:54:43] - I think users have influence over the platform the same way that workers have influence over their employer.  They can accept the polices and work there (use the platform) or go somewhere else.  If people don't like what Musk does then either he will change and it will be like it was before (now?) or people can leave and if enough leave then I'm sure something else will take its place.  -Daniel

[2022-04-26 13:38:57] - Can't think of a good reason why. I guess Adrian usually plays Protoss and Daniel usually plays Zerg, so archon games with them skew that direction, which might explain the low play rate for Terran. -Paul

[2022-04-26 13:17:59] - Daniel: You maybe notice that means I played 6 games as Protoss and 8 games as one of the other races. This continues an oddity where I apparently get Protoss more often than any other race. 49 for Protoss. 32 as Terran. 41 as Zerg. -Paul

[2022-04-26 13:14:53] - Daniel: Final count from last night (of games I counted, so not direct strike or the 30 second game where you missed your mineral patch): 7 wins and 7 losses for me. 2-4 as Protoss. -Paul

[2022-04-26 13:05:02] - Daniel: Logically, I'm cautiously optimistic. Emotionally, it's hard for me not to get excited. I think there's a very good chance Musk fixes a lot of the obvious problems I think most people agree that twitter has (bots, spam, impersonators, etc) and I think he will move it more in a free speech direction, which I am personally for. -Paul

[2022-04-25 19:24:39] - paul: are you exicited about musk buying it?  i know we were talking about it but don't remember what your take was.  -Daniel

[2022-04-25 17:50:02] - a: check your email  -Daniel

[2022-04-21 14:58:19] - Paul: Its about the surface area that the attacking zerglings/ drones can get on the defending drones.  Same reason you put a zealot in a protoss wall and it can hold off a bunch of zerglings.  -Daniel

[2022-04-21 14:45:36] - a: I eventually went Skytoss in one of the 2v2 matches with Daniel last night. Damn corruptors sniped all my carriers. Also, vikings hunted down my oracles. -Paul

[2022-04-21 14:39:21] - Yeah that part is pretty advanced but also you didn't bring eight extra drones.  I think if I had the first six zerglings he talked about that would have gone a long way.  I on the other hand I think started four once you were already in my base.  So not as ideal there.  -Daniel

[2022-04-21 14:33:50] - Daniel: Yeah... and the defense involves things like "mineral pockets" created by specifically placed evolution chambers. -Paul

[2022-04-21 14:20:53] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHnaFtW4-Ko - Vibe defending an even harder version of your build.  Basically just better scouting and pull drones immediately.  -Daniel

[2022-04-21 13:56:32] - Daniel: That's kind of my concern. I don't know how it would be easily stopped as long as I know you are zerg and there is a safe place for me to build my spines on. -Paul

[2022-04-21 13:51:45] - and then eventually be able to win out  by making more zerglings + queens?  I think.  -Daniel

[2022-04-21 13:39:22] - paul: Nah its fine, I just wasn't ready and didn't see them crossing the map.  I think there are defenses for it but they also depend on the spines not going down but I'm not sure I'm up on the defense ideas for that attack.  -Daniel

[2022-04-21 13:38:04] - a: Yeah, Daniel and I played some 1v1 (after getting our asses kicked in 2v2 against diamond teams) and I did a pretty cheesy 13 pool (was supposed to be 12 pool) that I felt a little bad about since I don't even know how it would be possible for a zerg to defend without really high level micro skills. -Paul

[2022-04-21 13:30:25] - Daniel: Was my 13 pool too cheesy last night? -Paul

[2022-04-19 16:34:26] - Daniel: Re: stasis wards. Yeah, which is why I was looking for harassment more on our level like reapers (which I think I could micro decently if I ignored macro) or speedlings (same). -paul

[2022-04-19 16:20:01] - Also kills are more valuable at our level I think because there is a chance that a player just never replaces a killed drone. -Daniel

[2022-04-19 16:19:34] - I think stasis wards are more relevant in the world of timing attacks / higher level players.  If you can get some stasis wards down and delay their entire build by 10 seconds per ward and you can get down three wards then you can know you are 30 seconds ahead.  Which I don't think super matters for us but for high level people maybe?  -Daniel

[2022-04-19 16:17:51] - paul: ""Actually, maybe they do have the authority and people should've listened"" - then we would know for next time?  I definitely don't think we always get it right the first time.  Or then people vote and Congress changes things for the next time around.  I wouldn't argue its good it took so long and probably should have been a thing where they went faster.  -Daniel

[2022-04-19 16:13:09] - Daniel: And 2 years later, after the worst parts of the pandemic were winding down, the courts finally said, "Actually, maybe they do have the authority and people should've listened". -Paul

[2022-04-19 16:12:38] - Daniel: "our system leans more towards careful than quick overall" Sure, and I'm fine with that in general (especially when taking into account appeals and whatnot), but 2 years for the first ruling for something that probably requires fast judgement? What if the roles were reversed and people weren't enforcing mask mandates because they didn't think the CDC had authority.... -Paul

[2022-04-19 16:10:42] - Daniel: Re: Oracles. Agreed, and I think I need to learn how to better use Oracles later in the game too. They can be hid in corners and pop in occasionally for status wards. -Paul

[2022-04-19 16:00:26] - Paul: Re: courts I think that generally speaking our system leans more towards careful than quick overall (though sometimes can be quick and maybe this should have been one of those times).  -Daniel

[2022-04-19 15:59:13] - Paul: I don't think Oracles wipe out whole mineral lines as often as zerglings but I think they can more easily / consistently get 3-5 drone kills even with a queen present then run away and let shield regen and then try again.  -Daniel

[2022-04-19 13:53:37] - Daniel: Yeah, just feels like adepts can be shut down by wall offs although I guess so can speedlings) and oracles aren't great against zerg with queens everywhere. Worth trying, though. -Paul

[2022-04-19 13:30:57] - I think Oracles and Adepts are the "standard" protoss harass.  -Daniel

[2022-04-18 15:38:15] - paul:  i'm slowly and steadily getting to daniel's viewpoint.  "Part of me doesn't super care what Twitter does because I don't super care about Twitter"  i actually use twitter a lot, but if it was gone tomorrow, or if elon ruins it, i would shrug and move on with my life.  i care more about who owns github (fucking microsoft!) and other websites like that.  on the other hand, i do like that facebook and google have competition.  ~a

[2022-04-15 17:01:55] - Daniel: The state actor thing is a weird thing because does it mean they should get more leeway or less? It looks like a bunch of Russian affiliated twitter accounts have gotten in hot water for some posts about the Ukraine war (saying it's Ukraine's fault or whatnot). I imagine they're getting extra attention for being state affiliated. -Paul

[2022-04-15 16:59:51] - Daniel: "I feel like that is the case with everything from referees to teachers to parents" Maybe, but that doesn't make it right, right? I mean, just because refs might be influenced by the home crowd or a particularly whiny player doesn't mean it's ideal. -Paul

[2022-04-15 16:54:26] - In my head twitter isn't to the level of being an important enough thing that it needs to be held to a higher or lower standard.  They do what they do and other people either stick with them or like digg2.0 and google+ just go elsewhere.  -Daniel

[2022-04-15 16:53:30] - Part of me doesn't super care what Twitter does because I don't super care about Twitter.  I don't know if thats some boomer-ness leaking out but if Twitter goes strict free speech anything goes or becomes a thing where you have to be a verified democrat to post doesn't really matter cause its just a service online and you can use other things?  -Daniel

[2022-04-15 16:47:03] - Though to be fair I have no idea what kind of stuff MBS / Iranian leaders tweet so can't really talk about that in an informed fashion.  -Daniel

[2022-04-15 16:46:23] - a: I would think of them as pretty close to / representing their state (which was my  point as giving them more leeway).  I think Trump is / was a tricky case in that I would agree he was somewhat a state actor but one that didn't treat it as such and was causing a violent problem on US soil via his twitter actions.  -Daniel

[2022-04-15 16:13:39] - daniel:  trump was a state actor. - mig

[2022-04-15 15:20:31] - MBS / Iranian leaders are more state actors than Babylon Bee?  I get it is a different standard but we do have precedent with embassies / ambassadors etc having a different set of rules applied to them.  -Daniel

[2022-04-15 15:12:48] - Paul: That they didn't get in trouble till someone brought attention to it?  I feel like that is the case with everything from referees to teachers to parents.  Hard to police what you don't notice.  -Daniel

[2022-04-15 15:01:02] - paul:  i agree with daniel.  i'd even question if the tweets were or were not removed.  and that's very relevant to your point.  he posted a screenshot so we don't know if they were removed or not.  ~a

[2022-04-15 14:59:38] - paul: Just as a note those tweets in greenwald's screenshot are not good and if twitter suspended (banned?) those people I wouldn't be upset and would probably think its a good thing.  -Daniel

[2022-04-14 17:54:12] - daniel:  certainly possible that could happen, but i doubt it. - mig

[2022-04-14 17:47:11] - mig: Yeah I just wonder if twitter goes the way of parler if Musk buys it and goes with a strict free speech approach and then does that mean his investment was wasted? less of what he wanted.  -Daniel

[2022-04-14 17:38:13] - oops daniel:

[2022-04-14 17:28:56] - that does the same thing but with rules in place?  I guess that would give the free market a chance to decide on whether people prefer some rules or strict free speech. -Daniel

[2022-04-14 17:28:20] - Twitter is interesting to me in that it serves as the public town square as he puts it but it doesn't have to.  Digg used to be the hotness before Reddit and it made changes and people bailed.  If he buys Twitter and makes it strict free speech where anything goes, what happens if people just leave to another service?  Does twitter have any patents that would keep Flitter or Twotter or whatever new service from coming along? -Daniel

[2022-04-12 23:00:16] - daniel:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vgd-w71RKTiB0wgkrFmorxugJL4IN_GI/view?usp=sharing  it's a profanity overlay for place.  download it and you can overlay it over the place image to censor the profanity.  ~a

[2022-04-12 22:07:56] - daniel:  That there's somebody hand on the wheel is something I think that's something everyone understands though.  Personally, I think Reich is attacking an argument nobody is making. - mig

[2022-04-12 16:27:30] - Daniel: Like Miguel said, he seems to be basically saying anything he doesn't like is the same. He doesn't like Putin, and he doesn't like Musk, ergo... You can say a lot of things about Musk, but his approach to what kind of speech can or should be permitted on twitter would almost certainly be polar opposite of Putin. -Paul

[2022-04-12 16:26:08] - Daniel: Yeah, I think the most charitable interpretation of his article is that somebody always has to control the internet, and he would rather HIS people control it instead of Musk, and that the way Musk wants to control the internet is similar to how Putin would? That last part is where he completely lost me. -Paul

[2022-04-12 16:05:55] - I don't think he is saying Musk = Putin.  Just that both have an interest (arguably, I mean he is making the case that Musk does) in having an ability to control 'the internet' - though I would strongly disagree that Twitter = 'the internet' -Daniel

[2022-04-12 16:00:21] - -Daniel

[2022-04-11 20:06:57] - daniel:  by "pure capitalism" are we talking anarchocapitalism or something else? - mig

[2022-04-11 20:01:38] - Daniel: I think most things work better with more capitalism versus less, and I think our current society should be far more skewed towards capitalism (most of the worst segments of our society are the ones that are least free market, IMHO). I don't think that's much of a surprise, though. -Paul

[2022-04-11 19:05:53] - I think pure capatalism is bad but pure communism would be bad too.  But I think a mix of things is probably the way to go.  We already have socialized medicine to some degree just a stupid way so that seems an obvious improvement.  Utilities are already often publicly run /shrug.  I don't think cell phone companies should be socialized / communized (?) but I don't think capatilism works in all arenas.  - Daniel

[2022-04-07 15:02:32] - daniel:  from your link:  "The transformation is so complete that one might find themselves repeating, Wait, is that Stephen Root?"  i say this a lot.  or more often i just say the shorted version:  "stephen root!"  ~a

[2022-04-07 05:23:31] - a: Going from https://www.vulture.com/article/best-character-actors.html - I would go with Lance Reddick (bonus points for being in Horizon Zero Dawn games) or Benedict Wong.  -Daniel

[2022-04-05 16:42:57] - a: Yeah sub reddits don't always start with the best name (anti-work springs to mind).  -Daniel

[2022-04-05 16:36:24] - daniel:  and all of the other nuance in fuckcars:  "we don't want to isolate rural communities by taking away cars", "we don't want to disrupt work trucks and delivery vehicles", some/most of them are pro-bus and pro-personal-vans, and carpooling, and slugging, etc.  most of them aren't mad at car users, but the decision makes that decide that it is the only choice allowed.  it's just more about having *the option*.  ~a

[2022-04-05 16:36:21] - daniel:  yah, gotcha.  i also wonder if people misunderstand "fuck cars".  maybe it's just a bad *name*?  for instance, "i'm a car enthusiast and i unironically agree with this sub", "i'm a car enthusiast, and this one of my is my favorite subreddits".  ~a

[2022-04-05 16:29:06] - a: its very true in terms of kid's media consumption.  Andrea and I are way more conservative in terms of what we let our kids watch than almost all other parents I know.  My kids haven't watched any Marvel movies and most other kids Nathan's age (5 / kindergarten) have seen several.  Alex was 7 when I let her watch The Last Airbender and that was the most violent thing I think she'd watched at that point.  -Daniel

[2022-04-05 14:37:30] - daniel:  i know your kids are probably too young to fall into this weird part of our society:  that somehow we think violence is appropriate in our media and national-dialog, but naughty words are inappropriate.  so: i'm not really making a "real" point.  regardless, it's what i was noodling on after our conversation.  ~a

[2022-04-05 14:37:27] - daniel:  i thought a lot about fuck ears last night.  it's weird because car deaths and gun deaths are approximately equal, in our country.  and both are, on their own, greater than flu deaths.  it reminded me of the movie from the 90s:  south park, bigger longer, uncut.  and the thesis of the movie was that it was (satirically) ok to be insanely violent as long as you didn't say any naughty words. (and the v-chip was new).  ~a

[2022-04-04 20:13:12] - a: Tonight it is then.  Miguel / Aaron you guys are welcome to join if you like : )  We can play wacky SC2 shenanigan games if that is more appealing  We've tried Direct Strike, SC2 Poker, Micro Wars, Limited budget FFAs and other wacky things.  Just don't want to be exclusionary!  -Daniel

[2022-04-04 20:07:42] - daniel:  m,t,w please.  thanks!  ~a

[2022-04-04 20:07:10] - a: SC2 all up to you this week it looks like! -Daniel

[2022-04-04 16:08:16] - daniel:  poop.  ok, the title is "elon musk becomes twitter’s largest shareholder" and the article is about three sentences, and here is one of them:  "per bloomberg data, musk’s 9.2 per cent twitter stake would make him the largest shareholder in the company. notably it’s more than quadruple the 2.25 per cent position of founder jack dorsey".  ~a

[2022-04-04 16:06:08] - a: Paywall -Daniel

[2022-04-01 20:23:15] - a: Yeah, I can, but I was hoping to just have to deal with a single column. Also, I messed up my notation from earlier and can't tell if something like "Daniel/Dewey" means they were both my teammate.... or were an archon team that was my teammate. -Paul

[2022-04-01 15:32:07] - Daniel: Since I started keeping track, we haven't played archon as Terran, but I am 2-0 with you as my teammate in 2v2 games when I am Terran. -Paul

[2022-04-01 15:15:56] - Paul: We have a winning record as archon and Terran?  I find that hard to believe somehow.  I feel like I lose all games as Terran.  -Daniel

[2022-04-01 13:38:04] - If I exclude games where I was on the same team as Daniel, then I have a losing record with Protoss and Terran and a 50/50 record with Zerg. -Paul

[2022-04-01 13:37:18] - I did some checking of my SC2 games. I have a winning record as Terran and Zerg (losing record as Protoss). In games where I am on the same team as Daniel (teammate or archon), I have a winning record with all races. -Paul

[2022-03-31 18:09:52] - mig: I'm not sure about firing squad but if it continues to go terribly I could see Putin falling out a window or something.  I don't know who would take that initiative or be in charge after though.  -Daniel

[2022-03-28 16:21:42] - I guess 100m people don't have a simple name like millionaire / billionaire.  100m-aire.  I agree with  paul that its dishonest in a dumb way.  I agree with Adrian that probably not in a way that people will actually care about.  -Daniel

[2022-03-28 12:06:27] - i'm on your side.  a wealth tax is dumb.  but (regarding my disagreements with daniel) this bill is much less dumb than all of the other previous wealth-bills and proposals before it, because instead of literally taxing wealth, they decided to tax income if your wealth is above a threshold.  so, hiding wealth now is strictly less beneficial (it now only benefits people near the threshold).  still bad, imo.  but, less bad.  ~a

[2022-03-24 17:32:44] - I don't think defining currency is a winning argument for either of us though which is mostly why I didn't go down the road I guess.  I'm not sure there is a winning argument for either of us.  The things that crypto currency is good at I'm either indifferent or slightly against I guess so its upsides don't really sway me.  -Daniel

[2022-03-24 17:31:42] - a: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency  I don't think its a completely black and white thing.  I don't think its a very good currency for most of the things I care about a currency doing?  If all you are about is unregulated international transfers I can see how it (kind of) works there though it still assumes an ability to transfer it to a currency you can use locally.    -Daniel

[2022-03-24 17:11:39] - paul:  "eyes_gif" . . . daniel?  please define a currency for us, because every time i see something like this, i *know* you're just going to say "nope, it's still just an asset, because"  ~a

[2022-03-24 16:28:09] - I remember Primer from long ago.  I think I thought it was good but crazy.  -Daniel

[2022-03-22 21:28:58] - daniel:  "Just an easier to transfer asset?".  how do you define currency?  i'd start with an easy to transfer asset, and work from there.  ~a

[2022-03-22 21:27:57] - daniel:  which is kinda my point.  and also ukraine's point.  they aren't picking crypto because it's cool.  ~a

[2022-03-22 21:02:25] - daniel:  "if Ukraine wanted they probably could set up a way to accept GME stocks".  here i disagree.  if ukraine wanted to do this, they probably could not.  ~a

[2022-03-22 17:39:59] - There are probaly smarter people than me who have looked into defining those terms better somewhere, either lawyers or academics I would guess.  -Daniel

[2022-03-22 17:39:28] - a: I feel like we debating different fronts or something.  I agree crypto is easier to transfer across international borders than gold.  Just that if Ukraine wanted they probably could set up a way to accept GME stocks but yeah crypto is easier.  I'm not sure that makes it currency though. Just an easier to transfer asset? I guess the distinction is between "currency" and "asset" which I guess comes down to acceptance and ease of use?-Daniel

[2022-03-22 17:12:16] - daniel:  "I'm pretty sure stocks / gold do get sold / transferred across international boundaries".  it's possible, of course.  and it's super difficult.  i literally can't buy shares in companies that don't trade on US exchanges.  i can't BUY it.  let alone TRANSFER it, that's probably harder.  actually, fuck, why aren't people donating gold or gme to ukranie?  do you think it's not telling at all that people are ONLY using crypto/usd?  ~a

[2022-03-22 15:28:32] - Bitcoin has the advantage of not being regulated so its easier to transfer across international borders.  So  yeah I think we talked about that being an advantage it has before.  But I don't think that makes it currency?  -Daniel

[2022-03-22 15:27:23] - a: I'm pretty sure stocks / gold do get sold / transferred across international boundaries.  I'm not sure I get your point about USD in Europe.  Yes currency conversion is a thing.  But you wouldn't call GE stock currency and you could also take that to Europe sell it for euro's and buy stuff.  -Daniel

[2022-03-22 15:22:31] - daniel:  the banking system is complex in a way that bitcoin does alleviate.  i guess i don't care if people are converting currency or not?  if i pay for something in usd to buy something in europe, and money is translated into euros does that make usd not real currency?  obviously not, right?  ~a

[2022-03-22 15:20:45] - daniel:  what sort of system?  if such a system for that could be set up as well, why hasn't it?  worded differently, don't you think the evidence that such a thing hasn't been set up is that way for a reason?  our congress (not sure if it was the house or the senate) specifically asked ukraine this question:  why aren't people donating dollars or euros?  and the ukraine official replied that the banking system doesn't allow for that.  ~a

[2022-03-22 15:17:49] - a: It still doesn't seem like currency?  Seems like an asset they donated and Ukraine then converted it to traditional currency and used that to buy stuff.  It does seem easier to donate than say stocks or shares of gold but it seems like a system for that could be set up as well.  -Daniel

[2022-03-21 21:59:49] - daniel:  for some additional context, patreon literally closed an account that accepted money for ukraine military efforts.  ~a

[2022-03-21 21:51:01] - daniel:  "If the goal is to be currency then I think its debatable" (from you, in 2020).  do you have any thoughts on the 0.1b+ usd donated to ukraine using addresses like this one?  forbes (etc) have reported these addresses have been used to literally equip the military with thousands of bullet proof vests / binoculars, etc.  ~a

[2022-03-21 18:59:03] - a: I think I would support relaxed zoning laws / changing zoning laws.  -Daniel

[2022-03-21 15:07:39] - paul:  you and daniel seem to be focused on the density as the only thing that makes money.  this isn't the case.  as he points out multiple times in the video, some of the medium-density places that were walkable were also much more profitable than the medium-density non-walkable places.  ~a

[2022-03-18 15:21:46] - Daniel: "Also I'm weird in that in general I'm pro higher taxes" Question, but pro higher taxes for you? Or others? Or both? Or some subset? -Paul

[2022-03-18 12:37:32] - a: "both you and daniel got this part wrong!" No, I understood that, but the thing driving that discrepancy is almost certainly population density, no? Tax revenue is half the equation. If you greatly increase population but keep the area constant... that explains a lot. -Paul

[2022-03-17 18:16:20] - daniel:  it might be surprising to paul, but i'm pro lower taxes.  i'd actually hope that we first look at the people overpaying and get them all fixed up.  but also, that i'm mooching off of other people really doesn't seem right.  (i know i still don't have you believing this, but i'm fine with this).  ~a

[2022-03-17 18:14:02] - My family always talks about the ways they protest their house valuations which drive property taxes (which is the main tax vehicle here in TX since we don't have sales tax) and I don't ever protest because I'm ok paying more taxes.  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 18:13:18] - Also I'm weird in that in general I'm pro higher taxes?  I think that puts me in the minority of most people.  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 18:12:53] - I would believe there is some level of subsidization but I don't know its the simple metric of tax revenue per acre minus expenses per acre.  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 18:09:58] - daniel:  i don't know either.  but i'd hope that such an analysis was included.  ~a

[2022-03-17 18:09:25] - a: I don't know?  My understanding based on watching was tax revenue - expenses.  Does that account for what proportion of the downtown tax profits are attributable to having that single family housing that allows for the employees that work there to provide that tax profit?  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 18:07:25] - daniel:  he's literally being paid by a broke town to analyze the economic impact of new development.  so a broke town saw they have a problem, recognized it, and hired some experts?  these experts are human, of course, but if he's not looking at the residential are that is supporting the commercial area, then i think he'd be considered negligent.  do you agree?  ~a

[2022-03-17 18:05:00] - daniel:  are you assuming he's not already accounting for the benefits of having that housing to the profitable tax areas?  ~a

[2022-03-17 18:04:36] - If the pattern is that the businesses supporting the residential area's should offset the money lost on those residential area's then maybe we should be taxing big foot print businesses (walmart / bestbuy / ikea / etc) more?  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 18:03:14] - a: "lets lower the taxes on the mixed use, and medium-density," - maybe?  Thats the part where I'm not sure? Do we know those residential people aren't also being subsidized?  Less strict on zoning / promoting mixed used areas I'm in.  Raising taxes on single use family areas to better reflect their expense?  Maybe but I'd want to explore the benefits of having that housing as well to the profitable tax areas.  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 17:47:51] - daniel:  lets lower the taxes on the mixed use, and medium-density, and be less strict on zoning of the mixed use, and medium-density.  agreed?  ~a

[2022-03-17 17:47:21] - daniel:  "I guess not so strict on the zoning"  yes.  here we agree.  i understand your point, that sometimes low-density suburbs support real estate.  and his graphs don't highlight that very well, and of course i agree with you on that point.  but that low-density suburbs are inefficient (and undertaxed) and low-density commercial real estate is inefficient (and undertaxed) is the overall takeaway.  ~a

[2022-03-17 17:45:02] - Do we care if businesses are subsidizing residential areas of all kinds?  I think the point of less dense area's being more expensive is still valid but I don't know what conclusions follow from that in terms of city planning.  I guess not so strict on the zoning.  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 17:43:32] - I still think there  is a commercial / residential aspect that's being ignored / conflated by doing it per acre.  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 17:35:14] - daniel:  per acre makes the most sense to me . . . if you counted it per tax payer then you could easily be as inefficient with the land as you'd like, right?  ~a

[2022-03-17 17:22:38] - I also do wonder about the synergy of the single family area's providing economic support for all those tax paying areas.  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 17:22:03] - a: his metric was difference of tax rev vs expense per acre.  Not per tax payer or something so in the mixed use case how do you separate whether the families there are being subsidized too?  Couldn't the conclusion of businesses subsidize residential also be supported by this data?  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 17:16:01] - daniel:  i don't follow, sorry.  "line of thought" i could understand.  but you're saying he's incorrectly conflating things, and i'm not sure i see what you mean.  i understand that you're uncomfortable, but that's probably because he's saying we're all mooching off of other people, which will never sit right.  ~a

[2022-03-17 17:06:34] - paul:  "areas with more population density generate more tax revenues?"  nope.  he's showing that the places with fewer parking lots and drive throughs generate more tax revenue.  the walkable communities generate more tax revenue.  and strictly speaking he was never looking at the tax revenue (both you and daniel got this part wrong!):  he's always been looking at the *difference* of revenue and expense.  ~a

[2022-03-17 16:50:24] - Which might still lead to an argument of balancing taxes or promoting mixed use to support more local businesses but I think his metric makes me uncomfortable some still.  -Daniel

[2022-03-17 16:50:03] - I also think there is a line of though on his metric having some flaws that by breaking it down by acre it conflates commerical and residential.  Like I don't know how much taxes the families are paying in the mixed use areas vs those in the single family areas and maybe both are being subsidized by the commercial taxes?  -Daniel

[2022-03-16 21:53:27] - daniel:  "If you took it to the other extreme and disallowed single use family areas would that work out for a city?"  i would not take this extreme, no.  would it work out for the city?  i don't know.  i do not propose we disallow anything.  ~a

[2022-03-16 21:52:27] - daniel:  "I'm not sure what we're debating"  i'll argue against having as much motor-vehicle designed asphalt as we often do when planning new communities.  the video does touch on this briefly.  that's what i'm debating at least.  do you agree with me?  "Attempt to encourage people to want to live in mixed use areas more?"  no.  but i'll argue we should increase taxes on the non-mixed-use areas so they we aren't subsidizing them?  ~a

[2022-03-16 21:49:49] - If you took it to the other extreme and disallowed single use family areas would that work out for a city?  Also unsure so I'm not sure that the  metric holds up when holistically thinking about city planning? -Daniel

[2022-03-16 21:49:08] - I'm not sure what we're debating.  Is there anyone who wouldn't concede that mixed use is more effective on a naive strict $ earned tax revenue metric?  I'm not sure what the point is.  Zoning laws are dumb?  Attempt to encourage people to want to live in mixed use areas more?  I think there are probably better ways.  -Daniel

[2022-03-16 21:42:29] - daniel:  ooooonly if you have enough families nearby!  otherwise it'll make you negative money.  which is kinda the point.  make the transportation from housing to/from commercial more efficient.  ~a

[2022-03-16 21:40:43] - Also I definitely don't know enough about property taxes to talk intelligently on this but like if downtown has 1000 businesses isn't that going to always pay more taxes than a same size amount of land with 1000 families living on it?  -Daniel

[2022-03-16 21:40:29] - daniel:  "cities aren't taxing houses appropriately that is a thing to talk about"  he does this though.  ~a

[2022-03-16 21:39:23] - a: I think the overall point of where there is density there is more tax revenue seems obvious and doesn't need a video?  I mean I get that if cities aren't taxing houses appropriately that is a thing to talk about about I don't think suburbs having lower tax returns is shocking or something?  -Daniel

[2022-03-16 21:36:49] - daniel:  downtowns make more money for cities.  true.  and he does discuss this.  but:  1. people live in downtowns.  2.  people live in *walkable* non-downtowns as well.  he mentions #2 a lot.  i added #1 because it's worth mentioning that he never said that where people live can't support themselves.  ~a

[2022-03-16 21:34:48] - a: He keeps pointint out downtown's make more money for cities than where single family homes are.  And how where single family homes are is where its costing the city money.  He's kind of repeated that point a lot.  -Daniel

[2022-03-16 21:32:39] - daniel:  "This property tax ROI thing seems weird to me"  why?  "I think overall his arguement seems to be that where more businesses are more property taxes get paid and where its more just people living less taxes get paid?"  he definitely never says this.  ~a

[2022-03-16 21:31:13] - daniel:  "modern development" you dropped the "car" in that sentence when you typed it out in your last sentence.  it's the density, not the age:  the modern approach of spreading everything out by having giant drive-through and huge sprawling parking lots you literally lose all of the efficiency of the location.  by jamming in all that asphalt, you turn a usable community that supports itself into financial insolvency.  ~a

[2022-03-16 21:31:11] - daniel:  "I don't think the implication he thinks the modern development is bad there is a stretch"  hard disagree.  he's all about modern cities.  ~a

[2022-03-16 21:31:02] - I think overall his arguement seems to be that where more businesses are more property taxes get paid and where its more just people living less taxes get paid?  And therefore that mixed use communities are better because more taxes get paid for those areas?  This property tax ROI thing seems weird to me.  -Daniel

[2022-03-16 21:26:56] - a:I'm watching more - just was commenting on that part since it was the part in question at the moment.  I mean I'm paraphrasing but I think his quote is "In this example a 100 year old commercial block, built in the traditional style of development drastically outperformed a shiny new developement, created in the modern car centric style."  I don't think the implication he thinks the modern development is bad there is a stretch.  -Daniel

[2022-03-16 21:21:19] - daniel:  what's with you guys and watching 90 seconds of a video?  i watched that video on 1.75x and it took like 5 minutes.  you said the same thing paul did:  "its bad to do the modern development".  i guess i'm the crazy one here, but he literally didn't say that.  he suggested that the one development was worse, but NOT because it was modern.  ~a

[2022-03-16 21:19:41] - not paul but after watching the first 1:30 I don't think I have quite the reaction Paul did but I also feel like he lost me already by showing me some example of two blocks that have different tax revenues(does say why and I have no idea) and stating that its bad to do the modern development.  I don't understand his conclusion there.  -Daniel

[2022-03-15 18:22:40] - paul:  this is a good thing.  (i'd mostly look to daniel to disagree) there shouldn't be one point of failure.  there shouldn't be one government, one fed, that decides the wordwide interest rate.  if the usd stops being the world reserve currency, then say fed rate hikes will have a MUCH smaller blow on the world economy (AND the us economy).  it also means who's president, or chairman of the fed, has less of an ability to fuck shit up.  ~a

[2022-03-14 20:17:29] - a: Yeah in this case I have no idea.  Maybe there is some very small market?  Like maybe 5 transactions went through somewhere?  No idea.  -Daniel

[2022-03-14 20:09:23] - daniel:  like for instance, if we somehow magically knew there was a 10% chance that russia would bounce back (even *partially* bounce back).  then, the $.07 is strictly incorrect.  how could they possibly know that there's not a 10% chance that they'll bounce back?  ~a

[2022-03-14 20:07:32] - daniel:  i think i understand what you mean.  i think that's close to the ebitda method.  but, i can't imagine they are doing that in this case:  if they were, why would they come up with $.07?  why did they say -99.9% of the worth of every company in the country has gone away since the start of the year?  how do you evaluate the effect of sanctions on a country of that size?  without a market checking your work?  ~a

[2022-03-14 20:01:32] - I think.  -Daniel

[2022-03-14 20:01:28] - a: Sort of?  I think that's why price of things can swing a lot after IPO's but I think like lawyers (or accountants? or someone? look at metrics / balances / debt / etc and maybe comps or something like real estate and come up with what they think the initial offering should be.  -Daniel

[2022-03-14 19:59:44] - daniel:  determining what a company is worth, without selling a part of it, is basically impossible.  think about it, why even have a stock market?  if such a method existed, you could just use that method and sell at that price.  iow, this is why the stock market exists . . . at all.  without a market, buying and selling part of things, it's all just a guess?  ~a

[2022-03-14 19:58:19] - daniel:  well ipos are magic to me too!  but, it seems like you get a bunch of people to promise to buy at a specific price.  that doesn't happen in this situation.  valuating the physical assets is possible.  or taking the ebitda and multiplying it by a pre-decided weighting-factor is possible (but i guarantee the $.07/share is not taking this into account unless that factor is very small).  ~a

[2022-03-14 19:53:54] - a: I think there is a way to valuate things that aren't being sold - kind of how an IPO happens but its much more slow and deliberate.  I'm not sure if thats what they would do or not in this case though.  -Daniel

[2022-03-14 19:42:44] - paul/daniel:  a more extreme case:  erus.  the nav says $0.07 even though the *last* price, from weeks ago, was $8.  (it's totally irrelevant, but the price at the beginning of the year was $42).  if it's *last* traded price was $8, who decides that it's changed -99% from that last traded price?  and how?  if nobody (domestically or internationally) is trading it?  ~a

[2022-03-14 19:39:28] - paul/daniel:  i wonder how mutual funds decide their price?  i assume it's similar to how ETFs decide their NAV (which is once per day, and not the same as their price).  but i don't know how that's done either?  so, for a less extreme case, look at vtiax . . . how are they valuating the russian equities they hold?  how do you decide what something is worth, if people aren't trading it?  no markets (anywhere) trade these assets.  ~a

[2022-03-03 21:32:10] - Daniel: Yeah, I agree that they might have sneakily been in a worse position than it seemed (ie, the one base and all), but it felt like they quit while the climatic battle was still going on. Don't know if they had reinforcements, but I felt like they were making headway pushing into our naturals and thought my expansion was going to go down. -Paul

[2022-03-03 21:25:11] - Yeah I went back and watched the replay.  I'm still not sure why they quit.  I don't feel like they had it won or that we did.  Two of their players were still only on one base though when they quit.  So maybe they just gave up once the proxy didn't just win right away?  Unsure.  -Daniel

[2022-03-03 21:20:29] - Daniel: Hells yeah. And I think we earned it too, even if I still suspect that one group was smurfs. Next up, masters? -Paul

[2022-03-03 20:49:11] - our 3v3.  -Daniel

[2022-03-03 20:38:42] - Daniel: You in Diamond 1v1? Or just referencing our 3v3 accomplishment? -Paul

[2022-03-03 20:36:31] - Daniel: Yeah, sorry, I almost prefaced that all with saying: "Not necessarily asking for pity for him but..." -Paul

[2022-03-03 19:35:57] - Also diamond league!  Still happy about that.  -Daniel

[2022-03-03 19:35:40] - Also Ukraine sucks up a lot of attention currently so might just be bad timing for hoping for outrage for other things.  -Daniel

[2022-03-03 19:35:01] - Probably though I imagine somewhere there is a recent story of something happening to an actress that we aren't currently outraged over so probably  but maybe not?  Doesn't seem like a good way to treat him.  -Daniel

[2022-02-28 20:42:07] - Daniel: "I think you are describing life insurance / annuity companies" Very possible. I'm not entirely sure how the annuity companies basically invest behind the scenes (if they do at all?) -Paul

[2022-02-28 20:14:08] - Just less good rates than you probably want.  -Daniel

[2022-02-28 20:14:00] - paul: I think you are describing life insurance / annuity companies.  I think that is more or less exactly what they do.  -Daniel

[2022-02-28 19:21:40] - paul/daniel:  the thing we probably won't like about an annuity (or pension) is that if the returns are guaranteed, then the rates are mega-low.  (only slightly higher than a CD or a bond rate).  they'll come up when interest rates increase, but with a zero-percent interest-rate, annuities and pensions are basically going to pay out jack-shit.  ~a

[2022-02-28 19:13:58] - paul/daniel:  i think there's no really good reason to not get a TINY annuity.  like 1/100th of your portfolio.  or something like that.  (if the rate is "good enough").  then you get the best of both worlds.  some super small guaranteed output, and you still get all the upsides of a normal 401k.  ~a

[2022-02-28 17:14:47] - Daniel: I guess my way of looking at it is that if I have something like a 75% chance of retiring successfully (ie, not running out of money) with an average of like $8 million left over after death, I would seriously consider trading that for a 100% chance of success and $0 left after death (sorry kids). -Paul

[2022-02-28 17:05:44] - I think mostly cause you give up on that potential growth 80% chance to come out ahead by keeping it yourself.  Even the 20-5% chance of you going under in the models generally assumes you made no changes along the way.  So if you are willing to potentially trim your budget / find new income stream(re:job) if you had to  you should be able to avoid hitting empty in most scenarios I think.  -Daniel

[2022-02-28 16:56:47] - Daniel: Good point. I had completely forgotten about those since they seem to have such a bad reputation. So why don't more people use annuities? I get they might be bad

[2022-02-28 15:59:09] - You trade potential growth for "guaranteed" payments.  -Daniel

[2022-02-28 15:58:55] - Paul: Service exists - called an annuity.  -Daniel

[2022-02-27 04:05:26] - Daniel: Yeah, it makes sense in some ways, but it's also a little... I dunno... off? I mean, if I am on my death bed with $5 million still in the bank... I'm going to regret not having retired sooner. -Paul

[2022-02-25 21:50:33] - I think my planner person was shooting for 80%.  I think a lot of plans end with the possibility that you have a fair chunk of excess money.  Because otherwise it would be to easy to run out with downswings.  -Daniel

[2022-02-25 19:17:06] - Daniel: Isn't what we really want to just raise the wealth / standard of living of everybody / the bottom 50% / however you want to define it? Why throw in the complicating factor of comparing it to the wealthiest people? -Paul

[2022-02-25 19:15:04] - Daniel: I'm saying wealth inequality is the wrong thing to focus on. For example, if we doubled the wealth of the bottom 50% tomorrow and tripled the wealth of the top 1% at the same time, wouldn't that be a miraculous outcome? At the same time, wouldn't wealth inequality be worse? -Paul

[2022-02-25 17:13:47] - mig: I'm not aware of AOC wanting wealth equality.  I think she also just wants less inequality.  I could believe she might want a wealth cap in a magical world but even that still doesn't equal wealth equality.  -Daniel

[2022-02-25 16:36:49] - daniel:    I don't want wealth equality. you may not want it personally, but a lot of the louder voices talking about wealth inequality (AOC) certainly do. - mig

[2022-02-25 15:00:51] - paul: I don't get your points around wealth equality.  I think you are either misunderstanding something or just making a strawman.  I don't want wealth equality.  I want less wealth inequality and want to be fair on the tax burden and not the tax amount.  You can have those things and still let Bezos/Musk be the wealthiest in the country.  -Daniel

[2022-02-25 14:40:51] - Daniel: "Even the really progressive ideas of like 80% rates on multi millionaires leaves them with more money than rando paying 15/20% on their 65k" Right. And I am saying I don't see the tax system as a way of fixing wealth inequality. I see it as a way to raise funding for the government. -paul

[2022-02-24 15:40:47] - It was trying to show  your idea of "fair" in this context doesn't make sense.  -Daniel

[2022-02-24 15:40:31] - Paul: No - having more equitable burdens doesn't lead to the same financial situations.  Even the really progressive ideas of like 80% rates on multi millionaires leaves them with more money than rando paying 15/20% on their 65k.    The paying everyone the same statement isn't a real idea - but a way to try and show that since we don't pay the same we shouldn't tax the same.  -Daniel

[2022-02-24 15:37:59] - Daniel: "I (we?) aren't trying to equalize the financial situations" Maybe semantics, but isn't that the goal to move towards, though? The disagreement here is all about how a flat tax would hit less affluent more, and so we need to hit the wealthier harder to even things out. You even mentioned paying everybody equally. -Paul

[2022-02-24 15:32:59] - Paul: I (we?) aren't trying to equalize the financial situations.  Having equal tax burdens does not lead to equal financial situations. -Daniel

[2022-02-24 15:26:30] - Daniel: I don't buy into the Harrison Bergeron idea that we need to equalize the financial situations of everybody. -Paul

[2022-02-24 15:24:43] - Daniel: "I think the idea is to have a fair burden not a fair amount in terms of taxes" Yeah, I understand that's what you (and Adrian?) want, but that's not my goal with taxes. I don't get why it makes sense for the wealthier to pay more in taxes any more than it would make sense for the rich to pay more for pizza or a hammer or whatever. -Paul

[2022-02-24 15:13:31] - Unless we pay everyone the same - then a set amount would make sense.  But I would assume that is a no go since that is not capitalism so if we are agreed that people can be paid differently then why not taxed differently?  -Daniel

[2022-02-24 15:12:24] - I think the idea is to have a fair burden not a fair amount in terms of taxes.  A tax amount of 1k to someone who makes 30k a  year is a much bigger burder than to someone who makes 1 mil.  -Daniel

[2022-02-24 03:03:50] - Daniel: But assuming you mean I don't think we should be using taxation as a way to try to even out everybody's level of wealth... then yes, that is accurate. -Paul

[2022-02-24 03:02:55] - Daniel: "I think one of the things I remember was that Paul wanted equal taxes not equitable taxes" I think I know what you're getting at in terms of "equitable taxes", but it's a weird term to me considering the definition of equitable is: "fair and impartial" -Paul

[2022-02-23 21:57:57] - I think one of the things I remember was that Paul wanted equal taxes not equitable taxes.  But I might be misremembering / putting words in his mouth.  -Daniel

[2022-02-14 21:08:47] - daniel:  . . . counter-protests are what you'll often end up with in that case?  i.e. if "jews will not replace us" is your message, you should probably expect a counter-protest.  ~a

[2022-02-14 20:59:57] - I mean blocking off economic activity is a good way of projecting a message but that doesn't mean society tolerates it indefinitely.  -Daniel

[2022-02-14 20:59:31] - "getting arrested is sometimes the cost of a safe non-violent protest?"  sometimes?  -Daniel

[2022-02-14 20:24:16] - daniel:  "I think they should be dealt with in some capacity"    mmmm.  no.  i disagree?  when a protest becomes annoying (and even if it disturbs commerce) is exactly when it becomes effective.  if you're protesting nonviolently and safely, i'm not sure the duration matters (to me).  and if you're protesting illegally, it might still be the right thing to do?  getting arrested is sometimes the cost of a safe non-violent protest?  ~a

[2022-02-14 20:20:43] - I don't agree with the truck convoy but I do think by and large its a good approach.  I think the part where it and other things in its vein will get push back is the duration.  Like if they block the bridge long enough to actually cause real problems to the economy then I think they should be dealt with in some capacity.  Similarly if a march walked through  a downtown and blocked traffic for even a couple of days vs like a month.  -Daniel

[2022-02-13 22:29:30] - Yeah at this point in life I'm pretty opposed to public money being used to fund major sports league stadiums / arenas.  -Daniel

[2022-02-09 18:47:43] - a: Ah nice - seems to support an idea that masking helps given their low rates - though not conclusive.  -Daniel

[2022-02-09 18:47:20] - daniel:  i agree there are other factors.  but at a certain point, you have to admit that any country should definitely avoid doing whatever the US is doing differently.  the US (and UK and Brazil) are almost always in the worst buckets.  ~a

[2022-02-09 18:41:28] - daniel:  you're welcome      ~a

[2022-02-09 18:38:51] - i haven't looked at all but I wonder what the numbers looked like in S Korea / Japan where masking is already prevalent in terms of helping to inform that discussion (even  though there are probably lots of other factors conflated in there).  -Daniel

[2022-02-07 20:09:55] - a: Yeah I wonder what else would account for that.  MAYBE GRAVITY IS INCREASING.  I mean no, but it sounds like a fun sci fi story.  -Daniel

[2022-02-07 18:52:14] - daniel:  here's another image that shows the context (obvious real takeaway here is that recreational drug use is really a major problem today, but still fall deaths surprised me).  ~a

[2022-02-07 18:51:03] - daniel:  it's up 35% in 10 years (2007-2016).  the life expectancy hasn't changed drastically from 2007 to 2016.  ~a

[2022-02-07 18:49:48] - a: kinda makes sense to me.  As we reduce other medical causes of death people get older and more frail.  Falling over is pretty terrible once you get old enough.  Broken hips are super bad but any broken bones is super hard to deal with at that age.  -Daniel

[2022-02-07 16:38:10] - Its a short story (something like 100 pages? not 100%) so not a huge commitment.  -Daniel

[2022-02-07 16:37:26] - Random product plug but this is one of my favorite stories by one of my favorite authors that you can read for a dollar.  Worth checking out if have any interest in reading: https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Soul-Elantris-Book-ebook/dp/B00A1XOPE8/  -Daniel

[2022-02-07 16:36:42] - Also that I would agree with the sexist true sentiment.  -Daniel

[2022-02-07 16:36:23] - In this case I would argue that its both sexist and true.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 21:01:59] - daniel:  fair enough, that's pretty crazy.  I've only really listened to his episode with Dr. Gupta, which felt more like a discussion than most other media discourse on the topic. - mig

[2022-02-01 20:55:22] - Like maybe Pfizers and Moderna's dept's aren't going down that avenue, but the idea that all scientists are ignoring it rather than some tried it and it didn't work that great?  That seems much more reasonable to me.  Now a new study from Japan - maybe there is something there?  Maybe not?  We'll see how the peer review goes.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 20:54:13] - And later hosted proponents of ivermectin who continued that same line of thinking.  Personally I don't give a crap about ivermectin but the idea that the global scientific community isn't pursuing all angles and trying to figure it out and are deliberately avoiding a solution is bonkers.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 20:51:15] - He then immediately couches it with "I don't know if its right or wrong" but that seems pretty weak to say right after that.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 20:50:39] - Thats not positing the idea that studies should be done or checked / reviewed / duplicated.  Thats presenting something as a conclusion and adding a layer of conspiracy.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 20:49:42] - From https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/joe-rogan-covid19-misinformation-ivermectin-spotify-podcast-1219976/ a quote from Rogan "“This doctor was saying ivermectin is 99 percent effective intreating Covid, but you don’t hear about it because you can’t fund vaccines when it’s an effective treatment,”"  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 20:43:59] - daniel:  I'm thinking more like the Rogan situation, where I believe he only stated he was prescribed Ivermectin not promoting it as a super wonder drug, which got everyone freaked out (to the point where CNN blatantly lied about him taking horse dewormer).  I know you guys don't like Rogan, but he does seem more interested in actual discussion.  - mig

[2022-02-01 18:56:25] - Its possible(likely?) that the anti invermectin crowd wasn't patient / open to discourse either but people taking a drug and blinding / killing themselves isn't a great outcome that does seem like something we (society) should try to avoid.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 18:55:11] - So I don't know that is great but my personal experience wasn't that the pro ivermectin crowd was patient / rational / open to discourse.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 18:54:35] - I guess we'd need to look at examples at that point?  The ones I saw (mostly from my aunt) were not invitations to discussion with the idea that no action should be taken until we figure out if this is a good idea.  It was definitely this is good and there is some level of consipracy preventing us from doing so.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 18:44:23] - daniel?  ~a

[2022-02-01 17:36:23] - paul:  "so?", well i'd parrot daniel and say that conclusions without studies in the context of a public pandemic is not a good idea.  ~a

[2022-02-01 17:33:37] - Conclusions w/o studies in the context of a public pandemic are not a good idea.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 17:32:09] - "How do you know?" - cause no published studies on the matter.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 17:28:27] - Daniel: Or 2 years ago, "N95 masks don't do anything to prevent catching COVID: misinformation" -Paul

[2022-02-01 17:27:15] - Daniel: "You should take invermectin if you get covid because it works great and big pharma doesn't want you to know: misinformation" How do you know? What if a year from now we find out it DOES work great? Again, 12 months ago we could be saying: "I'm not wearing a cloth mask in Costco because it hardly does any good: misinformation" -Paul

[2022-02-01 17:22:25] - You shouldn't be censored or shamed for the first.  You should be for the second.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 17:21:53] - The idea that ivermectin might have uses and should be looked at by scientists: not misinformation.  You should take invermectin if you get covid because it works great and big pharma doesn't want you to know: misinformation.  Those two statements are not the same.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 17:20:03] - Daniel: And the science is known for sure and must be followed and misinformation can be known for sure and must be banned from being discussed. Again, people were shamed and censored for saying things that we either admit were true now or are realizing COULD be true. -Paul

[2022-02-01 17:18:12] - Daniel: "I think you want all of this to be binary and be  "right" or "wrong" but things are always changing and people work with the knowledge they have" No, quite the opposite. My point is that it's often hard to know what is right and what is wrong but there seems to be this growing idea that there is "science" and "misinformation". -Paul

[2022-02-01 16:56:03] - daniel:  ("overall net effect on society".  i wonder this about a lot of technological marvels.  how about computers in general?  or the internal combustion engine?  or the industrial revolution?    i mean, it's all musing because it doesn't change anything, but i think about it sometimes.)  ~a

[2022-02-01 16:40:08] - (though it also might be in some form an inevitable extension of the internet and increased communication among people).  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 16:39:24] - (totally derails the covid conversation but I wonder some if overall net effect of social media has been negative - like I know there are use cases and positive use cases but not sure on the overall net effect on society).  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 16:37:09] - (everyone I think would be better off with less social media consumption imo - including news organizations who report things ) -Daniel

[2022-02-01 16:32:06] - I'm with adrian though that some study figuring out a way to use ivermectin safely / effectively isn't an L for the CDC / gov / "authorities".  They as 'authorities' don't have the luxury to just half ass some treatment recommendation and hope for the best.  That is not how we want it to work so they have to operate on the knowledge they have at the time.  If that changes then so do the recommendations / treatments.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 16:29:40] - It was and is dumb to take advice from social media about medicine to take when you are facing a potentially lethal disease instead of your doctor.  Maybe some study figures out that some dosage of ivermectin done in some way does have some benefit but doctors in FL / CO / VA wherever don't have the luxury of just starting their own rando experiment and if they don't know that its safe why would they advise/allow it.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 16:27:06] - And I'm pretty sure there were studies early on that didn't show anything positive from ivermectin.  So maybe that Japanese study figured out something new.  Or the other study was bad in some way - dunno.  But it did get looked at.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 16:26:48] - paul:  i defer to daniel.  he's explaining my thoughts more or less.  it's dangerous to suggest people do a thing without data.  it's not dangerous to study if a thing will work, and collect data.  if social media wants to censor "dangerous information" (cue 1984) during a global pandemic, it might be a good idea?  (but like, almost literally, between a rock and a hard place)  ~a

[2022-02-01 16:26:18] - I think you want all of this to be binary and be  "right" or "wrong" but things are always changing and people work with the knowledge they have.  If people had been like we really think ivermectin should be studied immediately and pushed it to go through approval processes that would be one thing.  But thats not what was advocated.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 16:24:46] - There is a difference between hey scientists here's an idea.  And hey layman go buy this medicine and dual use it and hope for the best.  -Daniel

[2022-02-01 16:23:49] - paul: People are positing the idea that ivermectin might be a good idea and that it should be studied.  They were (are) advocating for taking it right now and going to a vet store potentially to buy it.  -Daniel

[2022-01-31 16:35:29] - a: Ah, sorry, yes, I didn't see Miguel's post just said, "end masks". My mistake. Sorry, Daniel. -Paul

[2022-01-31 16:29:43] - Daniel "end mask mandates? end wearing them in general? not sure what that means" This isn't intended to be hostile to you, but I don't get the confusion over this. There's a HUGE difference between ending mask mandates and not wearing them in general. There's no "tipping" mandate, yet the majority of people tip in restaurants. -Paul

[2022-01-31 15:55:02] - mig: end mask mandates? end wearing them in general? not sure what that means.  -Daniel

[2022-01-26 02:43:40] - Daniel: Sure, but they often aren't reasons that also happen to be hot-button political topics. I'm not saying that's the case here, as the medical reasoning sounds valid, but it just sounds a little suspicious. -Paul

[2022-01-25 21:05:20] - paul: People get denied transplants for lots of reasons.  -Daniel

[2022-01-25 02:08:48] - a:  daniel summarized the gist of it.  My understanding is they do get counted in the overall statistics but not sure if thats 100% true. - mig

[2022-01-24 17:14:16] - daniel:  if mark (or dewey) come here i can ignore email?    i'm free every night.  ~a

[2022-01-24 17:13:48] - also mig or aaron if you want to join!  -Daniel

[2022-01-24 17:13:26] - paul / a: SC2?  (just poking since mark mentioned tonight as an option) -Daniel

[2022-01-24 15:10:31] - daniel:  it's weird.  when you look at the s&p500, or whatever, zoomed out over the past year, the drop since january 1st doesn't look so bad.  but living it . . . yikes.  my retirement accounts have taken quite the pounding, and i'm remarkably heavyweight in bonds.  ~a

[2022-01-24 15:07:58] - daniel:  do these get counted as covid deaths?  i guess it's probably hard to quantify causation.  ~a

[2022-01-24 15:06:20] - Fantasy investing had a rough start to this year.  Oof.  -Daniel

[2022-01-24 14:57:25] - a: Yeah - NPR has talked about them some.  You got to the hospital for a heart attack or w/e and they test you for covid and you were positive but you weren't showing symptoms or having respiratory issues.  -Daniel

[2022-01-21 17:07:54] - Daniel: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334972-poll-dems-dont-accept-trump-as-legitimate-president Also, this is super oddly worded, but it sounds like there was a poll showing that 65 percent of Democrats don’t believe Democrats have accepted that President Trump won the election fairly or that he is a legitimate president? -Paul

[2022-01-21 17:04:08] - Daniel: "I don't think anyone claimed Trump wasn't the winner" Maybe semantics, but is this the same as saying he was a legitimate president? Because Hillary called him an illegitimate president. -Paul

[2022-01-21 14:41:48] - paul: I don't think anyone claimed Trump wasn't the winner - just that the system is kinda dumb if Clinton can win the popular vote and still lose.  Also the whole Russia deal.  But I don't think it was the same as when Trump lost.  -Daniel

[2022-01-20 22:23:32] - daniel:  for what it's worth, low income families often have trouble affording a (safe) car.  let alone a (safe) car for every member of their family.  ~a

[2022-01-20 22:21:20] - daniel:  i understand.  having a lack of parking in a car-paradise seems like a living hell! but, usually a lack of parking is exactly what creates walkable communities.  then the developers (can) come in and provide what people need in a walkable package.  i don't think parking minimums are the only thing keeping us away from a walkable utopia.  but they are one of the things.  a abundance of parking is what creates car-only hellscapes.  ~a

[2022-01-20 22:17:40] - a: I wouldn't be upset if some city somewhere tried it out.  I would be curious if it ended up being an issue where low income families ended up getting screwed somehow because they were the only ones who bought it because everyone else wanted parking spaces and they ended up having a hard time dealing with lack of parking.  I don't know that would happen but wonder.  -Daniel

[2022-01-20 21:52:17] - daniel:  "My guess is that it wouldn't sell"  that depends.  but shouldn't the developer have the choice?  flipping the script (and removing the choice, in the other direction), many places in europe have parking maximums.  ~a

[2022-01-20 21:51:21] - daniel:  they have not always been a thing, no.  looks like they started being common in the 50s?  "Assuming they haven't then before did developers make housing with less parking?"  of course, this has to be technically true if you pick an infinite timeline.  but yeah, still true any way you look at it:  the ratio of parking spaces per person has basically been monotonically increasing since the invention of the car.  ~a

[2022-01-20 21:47:12] - a: Have parking minimums always been a thing?  Assuming they haven't then before did developers make housing with less parking?  My guess is that it wouldn't sell as well but I don't know that.  -Daniel

[2022-01-20 20:02:28] - a: I think traffic is bad and cars facilitate traffic but I do think there are a lot of plusses gained from cities and I think giving them all up  would not be a net win.  Which might not be totally what you are arguing but it comes across that way some?  I think I can be on board for more walkable - but even that is still going to have cars.  -Daniel

[2022-01-20 15:10:29] - Daniel: Yeah, it is a weird sentence, but Biden is also known for gaffes and incoherence so I didn't think much of it. I honestly just figured he was trying to be clever and subtle about making the voting bill sound urgent without sounding like he was pre-emptively casting doubt on a future election. -Paul

[2022-01-20 15:05:16] - daniel:  I dunno man, if I was concerned about faith in our election system, I wouldn't be mouthing off about even the possibility that the upcoming election may not be legitimate, especially if it's one that my party is forecasted to not do very well in. - mig

[2022-01-20 14:46:42] - paul: Thats a weird sentence - the increase in the prospect of being illegitimate - I would parse that as the odds increased which I think is probably true but doesn't address by how much?  So like if there is a .05% more chance of being illegitimate then its a true statement.  I think its hard to quantify how R voting laws affect that percentage though.  -Daniel

[2022-01-19 17:45:02] - Daniel: Sure, and Republicans are around 30% of the American population? So a majority of a minority. Also, voters are just one part. Trump lost soundly in court, so even Republican appointed judges didn't side with him. I know there's some disagreement here, but I really don't think we were that close to some sort of coup. -Paul

[2022-01-19 15:28:55] - daniel: It's not just filibuster but just general disruption of anything getting done.  The democrats basically held a bipartisan infrastructure bill hostage for months because they were pounding the table for the BBB bill demanding it be passed together with it.  They're still pounding the table for BBB even though they have absolutely any leverage to get the votes for it, and in the meantime nothing else meaningful is getting done. - mig

[2022-01-19 14:56:53] - paul: Also Colbert suggested it - Warren didn't really endorse it.  I think most people would prefer the version of congress that actually does things and votes on things rather than the version where everything gets filibustered.  I'd have to go back and look but did things get filibustered at the same percentage level back in the day  like pre WW2?  -Daniel

[2022-01-19 14:53:55] - paul: "most people saw through and were united against" - you realize most R's still think the election was stolen and that most R politicians either go with this or believe it? (npr poll had it as 75% of R's)  -Daniel

[2022-01-18 19:49:19] - a: Yeah NBA doesn't want to take on China.  Lots of $$ there for them.  (This came up before though different when Morey tweeted out support for Hong Kong and it caused a big stir) -Daniel

[2022-01-18 19:13:18] - mig/daniel:  for some context.  warriors is nba? and they get a lot of money (very-indirectly) from china?  if so, it feels related to that upton sinclare quote ("it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it") ???  ~a

[2022-01-18 18:58:44] - daniel:  interesting thought on the auto-increase.  hmm, i'll think on that.  it'll be annoying to implement, but still, probably for the best.  ~a

[2022-01-18 18:31:06] - mig: yikes as well.  -Daniel

[2022-01-18 18:30:29] - a: That idea for defaults seems solid to me.  Yes to target retirement based on birth year.  I've also seen lower starting but with auto yearly increase (again unless you go change it) so you start with just like 2 or 3 percent but it increases by 1 or 2 percent every year automatically unless you go change it back.  -Daniel

[2022-01-18 17:40:05] - daniel:  ok cool, thank you for that input.  for what it's worth, i'm already doing all of those things except the self-directed one.  (i'd do the self-directed one, but it is very expensive).  i'm also not technically doing the opt-out thing, but maybe i'll set that up before we hire on a next person.  so, what should the opt-out-defaults be???  2%-traditional + 2%-roth, everything into *the* target-retirement fund for your birth year?  ~a

[2022-01-18 17:06:33] - a: Make 401k opt out instead of opt in - make sure you have quality options with low/lower expense ratios - offer a solid match - low vesting time - reduce fees where possible (not always in your control though).  Once those are done I think things like true up or self directed options can be looked at but those seem more like extra / bonus things to me I think.  -Daniel

[2022-01-18 16:38:08] - daniel:  understood, thank you for your input.  i won't change it then, and i'll visit with the people it does affect.  "my list of 401k changes" do you have any specifics here?  i do run our 401k, and my biggest change in the past 10 years was changing our provider from paychex-401k to ascensus (uses "vanguard" branding and vanguard plans).  ~a

[2022-01-18 15:45:35] - a: In terms of the true up I don't think I have strong feelings for or against.  I think its definitely a thing that won't affect many people and for those its affecting I would tend to guess its not a huge deal for them so it would be low on my list of 401k changes if I were in charge of my companies 401k.  -Daniel

[2022-01-15 17:13:25] - paul/daniel:  our current P/E ratio for the s&p is nearing 40!  i feel like CAPE (p/e) is the closest thing we all have to a forward-predictor on the stock market.  thoughts on this?  correlation is loose, so we *might* be seeing as high as 10%/year of growth over the next 10 years, but the odds of that happening are looking exceedingly small. ~a

[2022-01-14 19:52:58] - paul/daniel:  i asked this exact question four years ago, and wonder if you have any new data or info from the past four years.  does your company have a 401k match true up?  and/or do you have any opinion on 401k match true up?  fwiw it OLNY matters to people who contribute the irs maximum (20.5k in 2022).  ~a

[2022-01-14 19:10:09] - a: "can we revisit history please?" Amash's first tweet was in 2020, right? Didn't Democrats have control of Congress then? I don't understand why you and Daniel keep pushing back on the idea of the Democrats having control of Congress now. They have the majority or tie+tie breaker. That's how we have defined control for forever, no? -Paul

[2022-01-14 19:06:34] - a: What circumstances are different? Trump had a Congress in control by the opposite party and Biden has a Congress in control (or... um... whatever alternative Daniel had said) by his party? -paul

[2022-01-14 18:44:12] - Daniel: But I get it, I've had plenty of times when I will criticize Biden or the Dems and the response is basically, "You're a Trumptard" and I'm like *hard eye-roll* -Paul

[2022-01-14 18:43:19] - Daniel: Ah, okay, I understand now. I guess (unsurprisingly) I see it as a false... dichotomy? Is that the right term? Like, I don't see why criticizing Biden (or D's) has to at all mean support for Trump (or R's) and in fact, I think that kind of thinking is super harmful because it leads to people blindly supporting their side even when it does bad things. -Paul

[2022-01-14 18:41:41] - I mean I think a lot of this might be fixed to some degree if we could change our voting system to better enable more political parties viable.  -Daniel

[2022-01-14 18:40:32] - construe my critism and lack of satisfaction with the current D party as an endorsement of the R's in any way shape or form."  -Daniel

[2022-01-14 18:38:10] - Daniel: "Congress has to start doing things again to help with that" Absolutely, and this is where things get a little weird for me because, obviously in theory Congress should be a sharply different institution from the Presidency, but in actuality recently, it seems like it often just acts as an extension of the presidency when the parties in power are the same. -Paul

[2022-01-14 18:38:00] - paul/daniel:  so, along those lines, if this is not allowed . . . can/should miguel compare trump to democrats?  i.e. saying that a democrat doing something bad is *almost as bad as* trump, instead of the opposition saying that a democrat doing something bad is *better* than trump?  ~a

[2022-01-14 18:37:07] - The D's only control part of congress.  I get they count as majority in Senate but its hard for to say they "control" the Senate.  -Daniel

[2022-01-14 18:36:44] - Daniel: I don't think I understand the question. I mean, just because one option is worse than the other, it doesn't mean both options are bad. Are you saying I can't criticize Biden because Trump was worse? I know that's a total straw-man, but I legit don't know what other point you are making. -Paul

[2022-01-14 18:36:29] - "respect for limits on executive power" is something that has been lacking since like Korean War but isn't something that the president can entirely fix on his own.  Congress has to start doing things again to help with that.  -Daniel

[2022-01-14 18:34:59] - paul: brings up an interesting point in the land of narratives - how do you call out Biden while also recognizing he's vastly (six points on this scale) superior and that one would (for sake of the argument) vote for Biden 10/10 times over Trump.  -Daniel

[2022-01-14 16:26:38] - daniel:  Things like Jim Eagle and the whole "if you oppose my agenda you're basically Jefferson Davis and George Wallace" has really just been irritating.  All this whining and moaning about needing to return to "norms" and "not being divisive" but this mother fucker isn't much better than Orange Man(tm). - mig

[2022-01-13 20:08:58] - -Daniel

[2022-01-13 19:24:29] - daniel:  sure that's not a good extreme either.  I do that a lot of the backlash currently though, wasn't over the initial decision to close schools, but the constant dragging off the feet to eventually get them open, usually because of constant goal post shifting by teachers on the conditions for reopening. - mig

[2022-01-13 19:09:33] - Daniel: Obviously we've already seen it with Republicans and their argument. I don't think I have to go into any more detail there. But I'm saying I'm seeing it just as much with Democrats (lots in the past, as mentioned before with Hillary and Abrams and Gore and whatnot), but especially going forward, and I think a lot of it is thanks to this overheated rhetoric from Biden about Jim Eagle... -Paul

[2022-01-13 19:07:54] - Daniel: Obviously. all fair points since we can't know the future. But knowing what we know now, what do you think the chances are that there will be something that people can point at as being "the reason" why Biden was cheated? This is what I'm worried about: People are primed on both sides to disbelieve the election results if their side loses. -Paul

[2022-01-13 18:59:39] - I agree that people rely on schools so certainly more communication / updates / efforts on that front would have been (or still would be) good but I think ideas to just "open back up" have their own challenges too.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 18:57:20] - As a counterpoint everyone I know associated with the school system here in TX thinks its been a disaster on some level to remain open with the same expectations as normal because so many teachers / students have been out.  Thats certainly currently anecdotal but I don't think its as simple as schools should have remained open the end.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 18:34:58] - (those are all me just making up things not things I think will happen) -Daniel

[2022-01-13 17:49:22] - mig: I don't think they cackle but I 100% think there are smart R's in a room trying to figure out how to get less voters.  If you don't I guess that can be your thought but doesn't seem born out by their policies or goals.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 17:47:59] - I do generally think of R's as less legitimate as an entire party (for a couple of reasons) but the one relevant here is that they actively seek to have less voters vote.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 17:47:21] - Daniel: But also, I guess I don't see the same connection of "legitimacy" with "number of voters who turned out", at least in terms of what I am talking about. This seems like a bizarre attempt to redefine the term so that Republicans crying about illegitimacy in 2020 can still be thought of as crazy conspiracy mongering but Democrats can do it in three years if their guy loses. -Paul

[2022-01-13 17:46:52] - "will have cheated" != "cheated to win".  I can cheat on a problem of a test and not on the whole thing and still pass legitimately.  I don't think its binary - hence the spectrum you alluded to earlier.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 17:45:32] - Daniel: But not always. Virginia recently had big turnout and still went Republican. Sometimes turnout represents dissatisfaction with the party in power. I wouldn't be surprised if Republicans wanted bigger turnout in 2024, especially if Biden's approval ratings continue to be low. -Paul

[2022-01-13 17:44:25] - Daniel: "R's want less voters.  Do you not agree to that?" At a high level, sure. I also think it's not the most accurate way to look at it. I think Republicans and Democrats want different groups to vote. Republicans tend to, for a variety of reasons, be more dedicated voters so lower turnout on average tends to be better for them. -Paul

[2022-01-13 17:32:21] - Less voters = less good representation of the will of the people.  Will of the people = Legitimacy.  So wanting less voters is inherently less legitimate (though still could be legitimate).  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 17:31:05] - I don't see it as the same as R's in regards to 2020.  They allege actual results / elections were stolen.  I do not think that will happen.  I think ahead of time and currently R's seek to make voting harder and suppress turn out.  R's want less voters.  Do you not agree to that?  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 17:28:54] - Cause they don't have enough votes to take control?  I think in all the places that are close where they still have control they are doing as much as they can to consolidate that power regardless of whether that represents the will of the people.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 17:27:28] - Define cheated - I already said that I think the elections will be legally abided.  But I think R's want to make laws that better favor them.  Do I think an R will ever win the national popular vote again?  Possibly but increasingly unlikely.  So splitting hairs/ defining things is probably important here.  I think an R could win the electoral college yes.  Would I assume they cheated?  The election no.  Will of the people?  Maybe.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 17:24:49] - aDaniel: So I feel like we're splitting hairs here. a: "republicans are going to cheat" Daniel: "they know they won't win otherwise". The latter heavily implies that the only way Republicans can win an election is by cheating. The former outright states Republicans are going to cheat. So... if Republicans win in three years then it's safe to assume you both think R's cheated? -Paul

[2022-01-13 16:34:38] - Paul: I don't know that I would blame him losing the election on cheating.  I think as a separate question is do I think that R's are actively and currently trying to stack the deck in their favor as much as they can because they know they won't win otherwise.  Yes I do.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 16:19:49] - Daniel: "I'm sure there are people already calling the next election illegitimate" Okay, so maybe I was misunderstanding things, but it sounded like both you and Adrian were already leaning on the side of, "Republicans are going to cheat so if Biden loses in two years we'll know why". -Paul

[2022-01-13 14:42:17] - Paul: "are there degrees of illegitimacy" - yes - Though I think its hard to know / measure.  The closer you are to the will of the people the more legitimate.  But how do you ascertain that or measure that?  Other than voting which as we've shown isn't always easy or direct.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 14:37:45] - But thats partly my guess for where those would be coming from.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 14:36:48] - My guess is that when its talked about R's talk about it as if the 2020 election was fraudently stolen and that D's would talk about it terms of voting access/rules and that actively working to reduce the number of voters reduces the legitimacy (perhaps at some point crossing a threshold and becoming illegitimate). -Daniel

[2022-01-13 14:35:02] - paul: I'm sure there are people already calling the next election illegitimate but I haven't seen that so I don't think its widespread and certainly isn't the position of most of Congress at the least.  -Daniel

[2022-01-13 13:46:01] - Daniel: On some level I understand what you mean, but can we agree that's not what 99% of people mean by the term? Also, in your case, are there degrees of illegitimacy? -paul

[2022-01-13 13:45:19] - Daniel: Sorry, I had all night to think about this and I still don't quite know where to go. So Obama was an illegitimate president? Biden is illegitimate? When Republicans talk about how Biden is an illegitimate president... you agree? And no, I meant 2024, I was going to present a hypothetical but you blew that idea out of the water... -Paul

[2022-01-13 05:53:41] - On the topic of hypothetical presidential elections - https://thehill.com/homenews/media/589363-nyt-columnist-floats-biden-cheney-ticket-in-2024  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:50:33] - daniel:  did they air the whole thing?  "woah woah woah! [he starts to ask a question] ... oh, he's gone, ok"  that ending was weird.  ~a

[2022-01-12 22:25:26] - Paul: I think generally people are important but natural resources and what they bring to the table are not insignificant. -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:24:32] - Paul: Lol - I wondered when you would ask.  I think there are questions to be asked about the EC and how it matches the will of the people at this point.  I think it made (more) sense in a big ass distributed country back in the day.  I go slightly back and forth on it.  If geographic representation is meaningful in representation and if so how much.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:24:24] - daniel:  you were close.  i've also only ever heard his name!  steve inskeep  and this is the thing you meant:  the video link looks to have the audio too.  thanks daniel!  ~a

[2022-01-12 22:23:01] - paul: Did you mean 2016 there?  Didn't they win that one?  I'm slightly confused there.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:22:10] - Daniel: Sure, and if Biden loses in 2024 and you want to make the argument that it's illegitimate because of the electoral college.... actually, wait, so you think every election is illegitimate because of the electoral college? -Paul

[2022-01-12 22:22:05] - Morning Edition had a thing where Trump talked to Steven Inscape (spelling?  only heard that name before I think) that aired today.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:21:23] - I try not to assume people are just crazy pants, so if they talked about legitamacy and the EC and will of the people and all that I would think its a very different conversation than counting votes in GA and AZ.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:20:34] - daniel:  which show?  ~a

[2022-01-12 22:20:11] - Paul: I mean Trump got 9.25 minutes on NPR today that I listened to.  He could have made a case for it.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:18:39] - Daniel: Hmmm, I can kind of see the distinction, but I feel like that is extremely splitting hairs and is not the type of nuance that would be afforded to anybody else. I mean, if Republicans were talking about how the 2016 election was illegitimate, would you listen to see if they had a thoughtful argument about the electoral college or just assume they were crazy pants? -Paul

[2022-01-12 22:14:56] - So then if R's go about instituting laws that make it harder to vote and thus less people vote then how well does the gov reflect the will of the people?  And if it doesn't reflect that then how legitimate is it?  Those are more philosophical questions and less legal ones though.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:14:31] - daniel:  yes, great distinction.  ~a

[2022-01-12 22:13:59] - paul: I think partly in my head it's a question of illegal vs illegitimate.  I'm pretty sure / confident it will be a legal election run by the applicable laws.  Whether its legitimate begins to dig deeper into those questions of what counts as legitimate and what doesn't.  Is the electoral college legitimate?  Or a way to give outsize power to nebraska / dakotas / idaho etc?  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:11:16] - daniel:  this is true.  ~a

[2022-01-12 22:10:55] - a: I think its easier to vote for fair districts when you know that ultimately fair is better for you.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:10:08] - a: Sure which is nice - but I'm not sure if the D's were the minority party if they would be so magnanimous.  I mean we hope so right? But human nature is hard to overcome sometimes.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:09:07] - daniel:  "I do think D's might be just as likely if the positions were reversed" i disagree.  most anti-gerrymandering proponents are democrats.  anti-gerrymandering proponents want there to be independent councils to redraw boundaries.  and many of them are getting what they want.  i think virginia has forged ahead with this (my mother participates in political actions regarding anti-gerrymandering).  ~a

[2022-01-12 22:09:01] - So R's either have to accept a backseat or find ways to try and work around the fact that they don't represent the will of the majority.  Though they clearly still represent a lot but settling for a proportional amount of power is unsatisfactory for them (or their voters).  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:07:52] - Whether 'representing the will of the people' is good or not is a slightly separate question.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:06:53] - I think in terms of "representing the will of the people" R's are less interested in that than D's currently because I don't think the majority of the people are R's.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:06:08] - paul: I think R's are definitely more pro pushing boundaries as much as possible (see gerrymandering) though I'm not sure that its an R thing because I do think D's might be just as likely if the positions were reversed.  I think R's know that they are the shrinking party numbers wise but still have geographic power and work to find ways to make that work for them.  -Daniel

[2022-01-12 22:06:01] - daniel:  "FL was down to figuring out those hanging chads or w/e" to add to this, the republican run executive told the voting officials to stop counting well ahead of the deadline.  she should not have done this and she only told them to stop counting because she wanted bush to win.  ~a

[2022-01-12 22:03:50] - mig: That election was bonkers close to be fair.  I haven't gone back to review but basically whoever won FL won right?  And FL was down to figuring out those hanging chads or w/e.  -Daniel

[2022-01-10 18:00:24] - Daniel: I'm not necessarily trying to trivialize the impact on the healthcare system, but have you been harmed by it? Have most vaccinated people? As for the education system, I don't really see a connection between harm from unvaccinated people and stress to the education system. In many cases schools are going remote or virtual regardless of vaccination statuses. -Paul

[2022-01-10 17:22:22] - paul: Also I think the stresses on systems such as healthcare and education aren't trivial.  I'm not sure they themselves dictate a need for mandates but I think they are valid factors to consider.  -Daniel

[2022-01-10 17:13:05] - Daniel: Looking forward to December of 2022 when I announce we're all losers for not only losing to the market, but also being significantly negative. -Paul

[2022-01-10 15:52:06] - paul: new milestone for fantasy investing!  everyone negative!  woo!  -Daniel

[2022-01-07 20:09:14] - Daniel: Yeah, it's very odd to put those two categories together, and the article itself continues to confuse things with language seeming to imply that people who work under a vaccine mandate are in favor of it. -Paul

[2022-01-07 19:59:58] - a: I mean if you are rounding 30% to the nearest half.  Then its half!  -Daniel

[2022-01-07 17:45:55] - I mean it might be accurate math but bad math at supporting a conclusion.  -Daniel

[2022-01-07 17:45:32] - Paul: It does seem odd phrasing since those that work under a mandate may not want it so adding those together seems like bad math.  -Daniel

[2022-01-06 18:28:51] - a: Did you build a forge as soon as we scouted the enemy forge? Daniel suggested that could be a decent counter (assuming you didn't). -Paul

[2022-01-06 18:19:39] - i'm (emotionally at this point) mad about cannon rush the same way that daniel is mad about skytoss.  ~a

[2022-01-05 20:11:36] - a: Mine don't.  Also second place with negative return so far!  Woo!  -Daniel

[2022-01-05 17:57:09] - a: to long since i read the books - i'd need to go back and find the parts where they go to the bank.  -Daniel

[2022-01-05 17:47:02] - a lot of the dog pile is fair though:  rowling has said a bunch of dumb shit since her books and movies got popular.  your issue with stewart ranting about the movies makes sense, but only because i can't know if the books weren't the same or worse.  daniel or paul feel like people who might have read the books.  is stewart off-base here?  ~a

[2022-01-05 17:34:06] - a: 'if the courts typically don't give a shit about pedestrians' health' - I don't know this and if I hit someone with a car wouldn't want to really roll the dice on that being true to get off w/o paying a lot.  -Daniel

[2022-01-05 17:32:41] - daniel:  i agree sort of.  but . . . if the courts typically don't give a shit about pedestrians' health (and they typically don't), then why didn't the perp low-ball my coworker?  offer him a settlement of $2k out of court, and if it goes to court, the court will rule something super crazy-low most of the time.  your $100k scenario seems to be out of the realm of reality / likely.  i'm pleasantly surprised things worked out this once.  ~a

[2022-01-05 16:54:26] - a: not suprised at a settlement.  I think settlements are generally the more common outcome than taking things all the way through for most cases I think?  Safer to negotiate an amount than risk the judge being like you owe him 100k for punitive damages! -Daniel

[2021-12-29 20:22:39] - a: Yeah diplomacy is one of those games too where you have to be careful who you play with and that they wont' take the inevitable betrayal to personally.  -Daniel

[2021-12-28 21:58:34] - Daniel: "Capitalism doesn't do much for those at the bottom?" I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but trying to understand what you are saying. Are you saying that whenever you have a huge increase in wealth (like in SF), then you're likely going to have a corresponding increase in poverty? -Paul

[2021-12-28 21:54:26] - I'm not sure a city could institute a UBI since its super easy for people to just move there?  I imagine they already have a larger homeless issue because homeless go there in order to benefit from some sort of compassionate policiy vs say homeless policies in AZ?  Thats just a guess though.  -Daniel

[2021-12-28 21:52:51] - Capitalism doesn't do much for those at the bottom?  I'm sure they have progressive policies (I assume - I mostly know jack about San Fran politics) but that can only do so much.  I think people get priced out of homes etc unless they make those big bucks from tech.  So not sure what there policies are in terms of that?  -Daniel

[2021-12-28 15:44:44] - paul: its definitely worth giving a shot.  Its got some strong elements to it while definitely having enough to differentiate it from being straight up Slay the Spire clone.  -Daniel

[2021-12-28 15:26:38] - Daniel: Inscryption is showing up in a lot of "Best Games of 2021" awards. Definitely on my list to check out if it comes out for Xbox or goes on sale for PC. -Paul

[2021-12-23 21:49:35] - paul:  yes, i think you understand the question, sorta, but i don't think you answered it.  (technically, daniel and i only said the unvaccinated were breeding grounds).  i'll answer yours though:  no, i don't think so.  suggesting omicron is potentially a good thing, seems to be against every bit of info i've seen on it.  do you believe omicron is a good thing?  ~a

[2021-12-23 21:24:42] - paul:  i've been thinking a lot about how you+miguel would reply to the "[unvaccinated] provide breeding grounds for variants" (to quote daniel) that we have brought up a few times, and i wanted to bring it back to the top again to see if you'd bite.  context:  there's a small chance we wouldn't have had omicron/delta with a higher vaccination rate?  ~a

[2021-12-23 18:12:34] - daniel:  is this the first year where you're going to have to file taxes with your individual stock brokerage account?  let me know how that goes  ~a

[2021-12-23 16:54:23] - Daniel: Nice! I know nothing is a sure thing, but man, I really don't see how that isn't a big winner in 2022 (or 2023 at the latest). The only possible way I can see it being a loser is if for some reason people don't want to use their treatment for other types of cancers, but I can't figure out why people wouldn't. -Paul